[07:13] next meeting scheduled [07:14] thanks :) [07:15] no problemo [08:17] bug 1391675 - anyone know why we can't add bug watches to that? I couldn't and I guess ali1234 tried [08:17] bug 1391675 in xfce4-taskmanager (Ubuntu) "Refresh rate physically changes - not shown in 'menu'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1391675 [08:24] elfy, you are notified of all changes [08:24] elfy, at least that's what launchpad tells me.. [08:24] oh, you mean something else [08:25] * knome facepalms [08:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/xfce-bugs shows the correct bug watch connection [08:26] and the page shows that bug watch too.. [08:26] bottom right [08:32] possibly not quite what I was meaning - I can't add the xfce bug at the top of the bug [08:32] at "also affects" [08:32] anyway - not hugely important as long as it's watched somehow :) [08:34] see the sidebar, at the top [08:34] maybe they changed how the bug watches are shown [08:35] and afaik, "also affects" is launchpad projects only, never been external bug watches (even though they have been shown there) [08:36] obviously not explaining myself well here - really not important :) [08:37] i'm pretty sure i've understood you right [08:37] :) [08:38] ok - well if you've understood me - then what I don't understand is why I can't do the same with that ^^ bug as with bug 1382977 where it HAS let us add the xfce bug in the affects :) [08:38] bug 1382977 in thunar "[SRU] Thunar open default not respecting mimetype" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382977 [08:39] anyway ... [08:53] elfy, right, assigned to [08:55] good question. [08:57] I try :p [12:16] Unit193: should we switch to mate-system-tools? [17:14] brainwash: sharing things with mate seems like a good idea to me, they are in a very similar position to us [17:15] brainwash: we should wait until mate is in ubuntu repositories first though, maybe we could even help with that? [17:15] the plan is for that to happen by alpha 2 [17:16] http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-ubuntu-mate-remix [17:16] they also use lightdm-gtk-greeter and indicators [17:18] until it is in ubuntu repos? didn't they release ubuntu mate 14.10 plus 14.04 just recently? [17:18] yes but it uses PPAs [17:19] the work to get everything in the normal repos is underway right now, that's what the UOS session was entirely about [17:19] I thought that you could just install mate in 14.10 [17:19] without ppas [17:19] you can, there is an ISO that has the PPA enabled by default [17:19] that's confusing :D [17:20] trust me, i was at the session and talking with the developer :) [17:20] but working with the mate guys is very important I think [17:20] yes it's confusing, but it will be solved for the next release if all goes to plan [17:20] and yes they do want to work with us too [17:21] makes we wonder, which one will be able to move on to gtk3 first [17:21] we are in roughly the same position there [17:21] they have everything "ported" but it's rough and breaking all the time [17:21] so just like Xfce really [17:22] porting to Gtk really isn't that hard [17:22] 3 [17:22] but almost no one cares about it [17:22] right [17:22] it doesn't have many practical benefits [17:22] it just brings problems when they change the API [17:23] maybe watch the start of the session before the video died? [17:23] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22355/ubuntu-mate-remix-1504/ [17:23] it's only like 5 minutes [17:27] 5 minutes? [17:27] yeah, the hangout died and we did most of the session on irc [17:27] but the video is 16 minutes long [17:27] okay maybe it's 10 minutes then... plus 5 minutes of faffing when the video dies [17:40] ok, I've watched the video === GridCube_ is now known as GridCube === meetingology` is now known as meetingology === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === meetingology` is now known as meetingology === paolo_ is now known as paolo === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119