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| thumper | morning | 19:41 |
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| rick_h_ | morning thumper | 19:44 |
| thumper | morning | 19:44 |
| thumper | davecheney: how about making that method "StackTrace() []string" ? | 21:31 |
| thumper | davecheney: also, why are you hung up on one space after a period? | 21:53 |
| thumper | I was always tought to use two | 21:53 |
| thumper | and I always do | 21:53 |
| rick_h_ | outdated typewriter days :P | 21:54 |
| thumper | rick_h_: not just that, I still think it looks better with two | 21:54 |
| thumper | unless you are using tex which does it auto-magically | 21:55 |
| rick_h_ | it was that way in enlish class in school but by college it had changed | 21:57 |
| rick_h_ | thumper: at least as far as techincally correct I think. | 21:57 |
| thumper | technically decided by whom? | 21:58 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.mlahandbook.org/fragment/faq#How_many_spaces | 21:58 |
| rick_h_ | MLA | 21:58 |
| thumper | WTF is MLA? | 21:58 |
| rick_h_ | it was the standards guide/book we used in school a decade ago | 21:58 |
| rick_h_ | writing guide body for papers/research/etc in the US | 21:58 |
| thumper | As a practical matter, however, there is nothing wrong with using two spaces after concluding punctuation marks | 21:59 |
| rick_h_ | Complete Manual on Typography (2003) states that "The typewriter tradition of separating sentences with two word spaces after a period has no place in typesetting" and the single space is "standard typographic practice". | 21:59 |
| rick_h_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing | 21:59 |
| thumper | rick_h_: does the MLA say to spell "colour" as "color" as well? | 22:00 |
| rick_h_ | at this point it's just uncommon and inconsistant | 22:00 |
| thumper | There is a debate on which convention is more readable, but the few recent direct studies conducted since 2002 have produced inconclusive results.[13] | 22:01 |
| thumper | heh | 22:01 |
| thumper | let's try an measure something entirely subjective... | 22:01 |
| rick_h_ | thumper: yea, so it's just common practice these days most folks have gone to 1 space post the typewriter | 22:01 |
| * thumper is just old | 22:01 | |
| rick_h_ | thumper: and a lot of folks don't even konw where the two space thing came from | 22:01 |
| rick_h_ | yep :) | 22:01 |
| thumper | waigani: quick catch up now? | 22:23 |
| waigani | thumper: sure | 22:23 |
| thumper | waigani: or would you prefer around 1:30? | 22:23 |
| waigani | now's good | 22:23 |
| thumper | ok | 22:23 |
| thumper | jump in the normal hangout | 22:23 |
| thumper | for thee 1:! | 22:23 |
| davecheney | thumper: stacktrace sounds good | 22:43 |
| davecheney | one space after period, it's the law | 22:43 |
| thumper | whose law? | 22:43 |
| davecheney | thumper: http://practicaltypography.com/one-space-between-sentences.html | 22:44 |
| menn0 | wallyworld_, thumper: the backport for that container scoped relations fix for 1.20 is here. http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/470/diff/ | 22:47 |
| wallyworld_ | menn0: thanks, typically you can land backports without review | 22:48 |
| wallyworld_ | well i do | 22:48 |
| menn0 | wallyworld_: ok. the only thing is I did the setup for one of the tests differently in 1.20 to avoid having to pulling in revs for stuff the tests for the orig fix relied on | 22:49 |
| menn0 | wallyworld_: that might be worth a quick look | 22:49 |
| wallyworld_ | sure, will do | 22:49 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: are you able to look at bug 1392745 - judging by the title, there may be an issue with system-identity and upgrades which affects juju-run | 22:50 |
| mup | Bug #1392745: juju run doesn't after upgrade to 1.20.11 <canonical-bootstack> <regression> <run> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.21:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1392745> | 22:50 |
| thumper | waigani: not in a quick turn around | 22:50 |
| thumper | sorry, wallyworld_ | 22:50 |
| menn0 | wallyworld_: it's a little hacky but I think it's ok given that the hack only exists in the 1.20 branch and is fairly localised | 22:50 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: sorry for? | 22:51 |
| thumper | wallyworld_: not in a quick turn around | 22:51 |
| thumper | on call reviewer, and other calls today | 22:51 |
| wallyworld_ | ok, np | 22:51 |
| thumper | and only parent, so taking kid to physio after school too | 22:51 |
| wallyworld_ | sure | 22:51 |
| menn0 | regarding bug 1386143, my reading of the final comments is that the problem was resolved in beta1 so perhaps it can be closed now. | 22:51 |
| mup | Bug #1386143: 1.21 alpha 2 broke watch api, no longer reports all services <api> <regression> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-gui:Invalid> <juju-quickstart:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386143> | 22:52 |
| menn0 | wallyworld_: ^^ | 22:52 |
| wallyworld_ | i think so too | 22:52 |
| menn0 | wallyworld_: ok i'll close it | 22:52 |
| wallyworld_ | menn0: you exported AddCharm just for the test? | 22:54 |
| menn0 | wallyworld_: yes. I wouldn't normally have except that this was a backport to 1.20. | 22:54 |
| menn0 | wallyworld_: originally I had copied the body into clone...() | 22:54 |
| wallyworld_ | menn0: why not put it in export_test? | 22:54 |
| menn0 | wallyworld_: it is | 22:55 |
| menn0 | wallyworld_: [aA]ddCharm is in export_test.go | 22:55 |
| wallyworld_ | doh, can't red, sorry | 22:55 |
| wallyworld_ | read | 22:55 |
| menn0 | cant' write either :-p | 22:55 |
| wallyworld_ | sigh | 22:55 |
| menn0 | but then either can I.... | 22:55 |
| wallyworld_ | still drinking first coffee | 22:55 |
| menn0 | neither | 22:56 |
| menn0 | fark | 22:56 |
| wallyworld_ | lol | 22:56 |
| menn0 | i've had 3 coffees so i have no excuse | 22:56 |
| menn0 | although i did go to bed too late | 22:56 |
| wallyworld_ | must have been a good party | 22:59 |
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