[00:04] Got a 404 on http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/source/Sources when upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10, I can just delete that one right? I'd imagine its either not needed or will be replaced by a 14.10 equivalent? [00:05] of course [00:05] you don't want any raring dists left [00:06] or PPAs for that matter [00:06] Thanks, that's what I figured, just didn't want to risk killing things :P [00:06] yeah, it disabled 3rd party ppas as expected [00:06] they should be deleted automatically [00:06] in the past its just commented them out for me [00:06] the old way of upgrading was just replacing the names in each link [00:07] rather chancy to do that now [00:07] how come? Still not super knowledgeable about the nitty gritty of ubuntu yet [00:10] weird.. for two repos it changed one of the two binary/src to utopic but left the other [00:11] that is wrong [00:11] which was left at raring? [00:12] deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu raring partner [00:12] deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring main [00:12] I manually edited those both to be utopic, then ran the updater again and it changed them both back for some reason [00:12] how do I stop all these *(&^&%^%$# roll over pop ups in plasma5/next? [00:13] specifically quassel [00:16] I'm starting to feel I should just reinstall over thanksgiving break.. this system has been through at least 2 upgrades if not 3 or 4 and I think some things have gotten mixed up 0.o [00:16] archetech2: I've never seen such, so I imagine that is a quassel thing [00:16] ask in #quassel [00:16] k [00:16] Probably because I've been using synaptic instead of muon and it seems that synaptic, muon, and my sources.list all show different sources... [00:17] Krixvar: I would add the correct lines, and delete the old ones in muon or something [00:17] rather than trying to edit manually [00:17] I tried that this time - synaptic shows everything as fine so I changed it in muon [00:18] ah, synaptic [00:18] I used to love that too [00:19] muon package manager is even better though [00:19] and of course the cli is fastest [00:19] I want to like it... help convince me? [00:19] I don't like Discover much [00:19] but I do like the package manager [00:19] Krixvar: it is a tool; use what you like [00:19] muon, that is - I use cli unless its a lot of packages or searching for something I don't know the name of [00:19] this ain't religion [00:21] amen sister [00:21] well said [00:21] I just feel like it might be advantageous to use the integrated kde software to prevent weird hiccups like this again [00:22] huh I never saw the muon package manager before.. appears to be ugpraded kpackagekit? [00:22] I think that's how it started, yes [00:23] I'll have to check it out then... I think the only reason I switched to synaptic was because it had better control over which version of a package is installed, which I don't really need atm [00:24] back to work, thanks for the verification on removing the sources :) [00:25] synaptic used to be the best indeed [00:25] glad to help [00:25] valorie: same error as above [00:26] Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:~neon/ubuntu/kf5-snapshot-weekly'. [00:26] The team named '~neon' has no PPA named 'ubuntu/kf5-snapshot-weekly' [00:26] where are you getting the advice to add that? [00:26] neon is gone..... [00:27] https://community.kde.org/Plasma/InstallingNext#How_to_install_test_versions_of_Plasma_Next [00:27] you said this was fixed [00:28] yes, did you clear your cache? [00:28] only /next is advised, or using the plasma5 iso [00:29] ok cache was the prob [00:31] :-) [00:33] so my neon install will now break in spectacular ways? [00:33] heh [00:33] archetech2: at some point you might want to `sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove` [00:33] and get rid of that neon stuff [00:33] once you have successfully added p5 [00:34] you will no longer have a neon install [00:34] you'll have plasma 5, and plasma 5 alone [00:34] good [00:34] this is a big step, and it can kill kittens [00:34] be advised [00:35] that said, I'm loving it [00:35] ...and reporting bugs [00:35] ok i signed up for trouble when I agreed to install it I fig [00:36] natch [00:36] 14.04 was so solid and clean I got bored [00:39] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next [00:39] sudo apt update [00:39] I ran those and nothing happens up to date [00:44] there is no output after update? [00:45] archetech2: for the record, your 14.10 install is all running smoothly? [00:45] very well [00:46] cool [00:47] you know that update just updates the sources, right? [00:47] It doesn't install anything [00:48] ok but I run this kf5-config --kde-version I get 5.3.0 [00:48] yes [00:48] next isn't the daily-unstable [00:48] which is guaranteed to kill kittens [00:49] I hate fittens anyhow [00:49] k [00:49] jk [00:50] * valorie flies off in a fit of rage [00:50] lol its a sick world [00:50] actually, I'm off to eat dinner in a few mins [00:51] where we going? [00:51] when I did this upgrade, I had to repeat the steps in a console [00:51] AND i had to remove lightdm manually even after choose SDDM properly [00:51] so be ready to resort to a console [00:52] * valorie invites archetech2 over for leftover night [00:52] For daily builds, install ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable as above. Ill try this [00:53] be warned, it will blow up [00:53] daily [00:53] that said, we need moar testers [00:53] i havent got daily [00:53] join #kubuntu-ci to watch the builds [00:56] ok 2100 to be upgraded :) [00:56] 210 [00:59] I'll reboot and watch the fireworks brb [01:13] kf5-config --kde-version [01:13] 5.5.0 :) [01:29] Ready to take the plunge over into Plasma5 on my laptop, is the official method just the kubuntu-ppa/next ppa? [01:31] https://community.kde.org/Plasma/InstallingNext#How_to_install_test_versions_of_Plasma_Next [01:32] I have it on vbox even unstable repo works well so far [01:33] keithzg: I'd use the latest iso [01:35] archetech2: Well, I'm already running Kubuntu 14.10 on my laptop, so installing via the ISO doesn't make much sense to me. [01:36] ya im not clairvoyant [01:37] heh [01:37] so the ISOs are just drawing from the same packages? ie. if you *did* install via the ISO, it'd have the PPA configured in the sources list? [01:37] what DE is on that now? [01:37] I mean, that's what I'm assuming, I just figured I should check. [01:38] I'm just running bog-standard Kubuntu 14.10 at the moment on here. [01:38] cli? [01:38] or kde4? [01:38] bog-standard Kubuntu, so, not CLI, that'd be ubuntu-server or minimal :P [01:39] well I said iso because I prefer to start fresh with experimental software [01:41] Fair enough; I tend to prefer the opposite, since if things break it tends to be far more illuminating, haha [01:42] I have one machine where I jumped into upgrades for each alpha starting with Kubuntu 5.10 :P [01:43] It's also a large part of my day job to fix and maintain Linux systems, so jumping in early on test machines lets me worst-case-scenario it. [01:44] benn on kf5 since 5.0.0 just went to 5.5 tonight [01:53] sorry,i went to my freinds brithday party [01:53] hello [01:53] hi keithzg [01:54] welcome [01:55] hi simonides [01:55] how is evry one === keyonce04 is now known as layla === layla is now known as keyonce04 [01:57] hi archetech [01:58] welcome jikan [01:58] how are u [01:58] ? [01:59] hello [02:00] welcome kameloso [02:01] keyonce04 is loking for somewone to chat with(i am keyonce04) [02:03] hello,archtech [02:04] hello? [02:04] brb [02:06] hi,ppl [02:14] keyonce04: chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic [02:15] this chan is for support [02:15] archetech2: so it went well? [02:16] do u mean me? === bmeng is now known as bmeneg [02:16] valorie: yes on kf5 5.5.0 now [02:17] keyonce04: this chan is for support [02:17] hi [02:17] chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic [02:17] hi valorie === bmeneg is now known as bmeneguele === bmeneguele is now known as beom [02:21] hello [02:32] welcome [02:36] keyonce04: please stop that here [02:36] this channel is for support [02:36] what? [02:37] please stop what [02:37] typing random greetings [02:38] ok [03:11] hi, can i install the "vgaswitcheroo" on kubuntu? [03:14] !info vgaswitcheroo [03:14] Package vgaswitcheroo does not exist in utopic [03:15] kavaco: have never heard of it [03:15] what is it? [03:16] valorie: http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/enable-and-use-open-source-radeon-drivers-in-a-muxless-hybrid-graphics-intelamd-setup/ [03:17] swith video cards [03:17] to me: intel / radeon [03:29] kavaco: you can use xorg/edgers certainly [03:29] kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE after all [03:29] and there was a recent update to that, I heard today [03:30] that tut sounds smack-on === administrator is now known as Guest53260 === Guest53260 is now known as keyonce04 [03:33] hello [03:35] hi,i love to chat [03:36] welcome back [03:36] hi,pedro [03:36] tnank you [03:36] you know, there are entire networks where people just chat [03:37] pedro? [03:37] really [03:37] freenode is not generally one of those networks [03:37] most people here are working in free software [03:37] wow [03:37] that is really the point of freenode, after all [03:38] yeah [03:39] silvia i awake now [03:40] oops, sorry, I mistook this for -offtopic [03:40] what? [03:40] valorie: can you help me? [03:40] as I said before, this is a support channel, NOT a chat channel [03:41] hi kavaco [03:41] kavaco: did your tutorial not work? [03:41] me? [03:42] valorie: no [03:42] ok [03:42] hi keyonce04 [03:42] how are u [03:42] very nice [03:42] can you show me the error message in a pastebin, kavaco? [03:42] !paste [03:42] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [03:43] keyonce04: please stop that in here, and use #kubuntu-offtopic for chat [03:43] what command? [03:43] ok [03:43] or I will kick you from the channel [03:43] kavaco: were not you following http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/enable-and-use-open-source-radeon-drivers-in-a-muxless-hybrid-graphics-intelamd-setup/ ? [03:44] wow [03:44] yes [03:44] wait please [03:44] OK [03:45] valorie: cat: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado [03:45] kavaco: I don't understand [03:45] did you follow the instructions in your link? [03:45] on Step 3 [03:46] from tutorial [03:46] kavaco: did you restart, as they instruct? [03:47] and did you enable compositing in systemsettings [03:47] I notice they don't mention kubuntu, but that's where it is [03:47] or just start typing compositing into alt+f2 [03:51] hi everyone! is kde supposed to work with nouveau driver? i have probably the most "classic" nvidia card (geforce7) and it doesnt work at all. i have to boot with nomodeset to see something on the screen. then i can install nvidia 304.88 drivers and they work okay with plasma4. however, the same drivers dont work at all with plasma5+... i have to apt remove both nvidia and nouveau driver to get it to work and strangely X reports using vm [03:51] ware drivers (this is a a real machine not a vm) [03:52] vmware [03:52] that sounds very strange [03:52] !nvidia [03:52] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [03:53] I've not messed with drivers for years [03:53] and yes, kde works with nouveau [03:54] valorie: we forget that tutorial? [03:54] valorie: and try other alternative, you know. [03:54] its weird because kubuntu 4.10 kde4 installer does not work out of the box with my so classic 5 years old machine without nomodeset... :( [03:54] kavaco: you didn't answer my question [03:54] did you set compositing, and did you restart? [03:55] no [03:55] i dont speak english very well [03:55] well, the tutorial writer knows more than both of us put together, so I would follow that advice [03:55] to the letter [03:55] sometimes, i dont undertand, sorry [03:56] kavaco: step two says to set up compositing [03:56] as i said earlier, just do alt+f2 [03:56] hehe that page is olddddd [03:56] then start typing compositing [03:56] and turn that on in systemsetting [03:56] s [03:56] then restart [03:56] and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia was updated 4years ago [03:56] THEN you can do step 3 [03:57] rx_: sorry about that [03:57] this @xcompmgr -n? [03:57] as I said, I've not messed with drivers for years [03:57] hehe thats fine ;o) [03:57] im looking for someone with my setup [03:57] i must not be the only one [03:58] this is usually a quiet time in the channel though [03:58] the Europeans aren't up and around yet [03:58] why??? all the gfs are sleeping ;-) [03:58] Americans are all doing something else [04:00] valorie: i dont update. i ran it now [04:00] on step one [04:01] installing the updated packages now [04:10] valorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9036755/ [04:10] its ok? [04:18] that looks like you already have compositing running, kavaco [04:18] sorry, I'm going to go watch a movie now [04:18] just keep following the tut step by step [04:19] valorie: thanks [04:19] i sleep now [04:19] on here, brazil, its a 01:19am [04:19] :D [04:19] valorie: thank you very mutch [04:20] yw === administrator_ is now known as keyonce04 [04:21] hello === flavio is now known as Guest61506 === Guest61506 is now known as Bushido === Bushido is now known as Genetikk === Bigcheese_ is now known as Bigcheese === james is now known as Guest26380 [08:21] How long does 12.04 have? [08:22] And is there a way to stop the 14.04 reminder? [08:57] Name141: reminder? [08:58] !eol [08:58] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [09:00] looks like 12.04.5 will be supported until April 2017 [09:00] and if you mean reminders to update, select "LTS" in muon === frogonwheels_ is now known as frogonwheels [09:03] Settings > Configure Software sources > Updates [09:04] also you can configure it to never notify you at all === Michael__ is now known as Guest78198 [09:36] How can I make Firefox not look like Sh*t under KDE? === nishant is now known as Technical_Rambo === nishant is now known as Technical_Rambo === zippy is now known as Guest78197 === kubuntu is now known as Guest40654 [11:27] 'Morning all === Yukitteru is now known as Yukinotteru [11:40] BluesKaj evening) [11:55] 'evening buriedalive :) === Tabstar is now known as Tabmow [12:11] BluesKaj tu) u from? just curious [12:12] Canada...Ontario [12:13] oh Canada, my association rock band Rush first) [12:15] Russia...Siberia [12:32] hola [12:33] lince hi there [12:41] where are quassel configuration files? [12:44] .config === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt [13:47] Hello [13:52] KDE5? wow ... whats everyone think of it so far? [13:52] looks less klunky than kde4 initially did [13:55] still sticking with KDE4. I don't like the Plasma 5 theme, but it looks like there is a lot of improvements [13:56] i hope there are some improvements for tablets. KDE at the moment on tablet is good but has some horrible edges [14:03] was that kde-active? === Marvnix is now known as ali_as [14:21] Hi, is there a mysql-server-5.5 debug symbols package available for kubuntu 14.10? [14:22] amichair: there is a mysql-server-5.5-dbgsym, which is in the ddebs repo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages [14:25] yofel: thanks [14:28] Hi there, i have a lot of issues with KDE here, on 14.04 [14:29] i have plain knotify grey notifications, no plasma notifications [14:29] does someone have an idea how to fix that ? It's really annoying === administrator is now known as keyonce04 [14:45] Konwhald, could be a kde-workspace issue [15:07] where do I best report a bug in Kubuntu (specifically in quassel)? [15:09] dinosaur_, https://bugs.kde.org/ [15:09] It was already reported, but seems like nothings has been improved [15:10] BluesKaj_: seems like it has nothing to do with KDE [15:10] dinosaur_, in quassell help/Report Bug ,will set it up for you [15:13] I'm not sure if I should report it if it already has been done. http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/1275. [15:14] dinosaur_, then just choose the "it happens to me" option on the page [15:16] or not if there's no such option [15:18] OK, I'll leave it for now. I could probably fix it on my own if I really wanted. They could fix it too, but I don't want to send them my database. So no. [15:18] Will Linux be the proper choice for backuping Windows? [15:22] Heh, just found a second bug in quassel [15:35] dinosaur_, no, use windows.old folder on a backup ntfs partition, and you can do that in windows [15:38] BluesKaj_: I want to store it on a CD. [15:38] brb [15:47] how about resource usage in kubuntu vs makaro kde [15:48] is kubuntu light or how vailla it is ? because in manjaro its not kde anymore [15:50] ubuntu unity is very lagging [15:50] blade_, dunno , never tried manjaro [15:50] is kubuntu snappy [15:50] bla depends o lot on your HW [15:50] blade_, [15:51] its a old system [15:51] how old? [15:51] centrino 2 cpu 3gb ram 128 mb graphics [15:51] unity runs fine but getts slow after like using it for 20 mins [15:51] firefox gets slow hangs a bit [15:52] i have tried many distro but not able to settle [15:52] kuuntu ruan nicely here with those specs , even quicker now with 6G ram [15:53] but its the apps [15:53] i want to use gtk apps [15:53] would they rune fine, ugly ? [15:55] if you mean from a theme side they'll look about the same as any other application (as long as you stick to oxygen) as they'll use oxygen-gtk(3) [15:56] is it true that plasma5 tech preview iso image doesnt boot into live desktop? [15:57] http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kubuntu-utopic-plasma5.html [16:02] i hate kde default menu [16:02] is there any way i can replace it with anything [16:02] johnn, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/pending/ [16:03] blade_, switch to classic menu by right clicking on the kmenu and choosing it [16:03] blade_: there is the traditional launcher with a menu that you could add. And there's homerun which is more unity like [16:07] im more familair with a bar at top [16:07] can i change the way kde looks [16:07] so i can change menu can i make it more like xfce [16:08] you can move the panel wherever you want [16:09] and xfce is a simple menu if I remember correctly? Then the classic menu is likely what you want [16:09] homerun looks awesome [16:09] what are the prefered apps in kde world [16:10] like im used to gnome apps [16:10] what are ur preffered apps [16:13] depends on the usage..think there's a page that shows kde and gtk equivalents [16:17] thanks blueskaj does this image boots properly? [16:18] johnn, yes, it did when i tried it a month ago === kevin is now known as Guest689 === Guest689 is now known as gmopkub [16:56] hi guys [16:56] anyone wanna help me backup my mp3s? [16:57] hi [16:57] gmopkub you wanna backup my mp3s? [16:58] hi === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro === terry is now known as Guest196 [17:57] good day [17:57] any one here [17:58] i have a question [17:59] ask [18:00] echo -e "\e[8;30;60t" [18:00] in konsole [18:00] dsent works [18:00] any work around ? [18:04] ? [18:06] what do you expect that command to do? [18:06] to resize konsole window [18:06] it works greate with gnome-terminal [18:06] i dev in perl and i resize alot of terminal windows, but im new to kde [18:06] and i have this problem with konsole [18:07] i need to resize the window from within the script [18:07] foreach my $val (sort keys %ENV) { [18:07] [18:07] if ($val eq "XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP" && $ENV{$val} eq "KDE" ) { [18:07] #code [18:07] } [18:07] else { [18:07] cRzy you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted [18:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9046382/ [18:08] ^ [18:08] see [18:13] no ? [18:15] the command does work, but it won't resize the window (just the space available for the terminal) [18:15] yes i have understood that [18:15] is ther a way to achive the same without opening a new window ? [18:18] you can resize the window via DBus, but you'll have to convert the size into pixels [18:18] I don't know of a way to do it via xterm escape sequences [18:24] thanks [18:24] :* === jpranjali is now known as explorer600 === charles_ is now known as Guest8393 === arek is now known as Guest9019 [19:54] witam === Guest9019 is now known as arek__ [19:56] witam === arek_ is now known as arek__ [20:05] Hello everyone. I have a Crucial/Micron m500. Found a web page[1] mentioning that it is on a Linux kernel blacklist: http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/M500-M5x0-QUEUED-TRIM-data-corruption-alert-mostly-for-Linux/td-p/151028/page/4 <-- does my 3.13 kernel support TRIM for this Crucial/Micron M500 device? === Yukinotteru is now known as Yukitteru === goose00014000 is now known as mongoose [20:36] hi, how can I tell if my system is using TRIM? I tried "grep -i trim /boot/config-*", and the command returned no output. [20:40] What is the Bluetooth management application? [20:41] bluedevil ? === roberto is now known as Guest83196 === Guest83196 is now known as roberto__ [21:19] On Apper, I can search for and add kteatime, kblocks, and other small packages. Muon Discover does not have them, but has 'big' packages such as rekonq, so the little packages, I have to add with apt. Is that a packaging difference between Kubuntu and Fedora/OpenSUSE, or Apper versus Muon Discover, or RPMs/yum versus DEBs/apt? === Yukitteru is now known as Dhs92 === Dhs92 is now known as Yukitteru [22:04] If I add a new service menu entry in /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus do I have to do something to make it take effect? === Riddelll is now known as Riddell [22:13]