[00:04] <Krixvar> Got a 404 on http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/source/Sources when upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10, I can just delete that one right? I'd imagine its either not needed or will be replaced by a 14.10 equivalent?
[00:05] <valorie> of course
[00:05] <valorie> you don't want any raring dists left
[00:06] <valorie> or PPAs for that matter
[00:06] <Krixvar> Thanks, that's what I figured, just didn't want to risk killing things :P
[00:06] <Krixvar> yeah, it disabled 3rd party ppas as expected
[00:06] <valorie> they should be deleted automatically
[00:06] <Krixvar> in the past its just commented them out for me
[00:06] <valorie> the old way of upgrading was just replacing the names in each link
[00:07] <valorie> rather chancy to do that now
[00:07] <Krixvar> how come? Still not super knowledgeable about the nitty gritty of ubuntu yet
[00:10] <Krixvar> weird.. for two repos it changed one of the two binary/src to utopic but left the other
[00:11] <valorie> that is wrong
[00:11] <valorie> which was left at raring?
[00:12] <Krixvar> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu raring partner
[00:12] <Krixvar> deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring main
[00:12] <Krixvar> I manually edited those both to be utopic, then ran the updater again and it changed them both back for some reason
[00:12] <archetech2> how do I stop all these *(&^&%^%$# roll over pop ups in plasma5/next?
[00:13] <archetech2> specifically quassel
[00:16] <Krixvar> I'm starting to feel I should just reinstall over thanksgiving break.. this system has been through at least 2 upgrades if not 3 or 4 and I think some things have gotten mixed up 0.o
[00:16] <valorie> archetech2: I've never seen such, so I imagine that is a quassel thing
[00:16] <valorie> ask in #quassel
[00:16] <archetech2> k
[00:16] <Krixvar> Probably because I've been using synaptic instead of muon and it seems that synaptic, muon, and my sources.list all show different sources...
[00:17] <valorie> Krixvar: I would add the correct lines, and delete the old ones in muon or something
[00:17] <valorie> rather than trying to edit manually
[00:17] <Krixvar> I tried that this time - synaptic shows everything as fine so I changed it in muon
[00:18] <valorie> ah, synaptic
[00:18] <valorie> I used to love that too
[00:19] <valorie> muon package manager is even better though
[00:19] <valorie> and of course the cli is fastest
[00:19] <Krixvar> I want to like it... help convince me?
[00:19] <valorie> I don't like Discover much
[00:19] <valorie> but I do like the package manager
[00:19] <valorie> Krixvar: it is a tool; use what you like
[00:19] <Krixvar> muon, that is - I use cli unless its a lot of packages or searching for something I don't know the name of
[00:19] <valorie> this ain't religion
[00:21] <archetech2> amen sister
[00:21] <Krixvar> well said
[00:21] <Krixvar> I just feel like it might be advantageous to use the integrated kde software to prevent weird hiccups like this again
[00:22] <Krixvar> huh I never saw the muon package manager before.. appears to be ugpraded kpackagekit?
[00:22] <valorie> I think that's how it started, yes
[00:23] <Krixvar> I'll have to check it out then... I think the only reason I switched to synaptic was because it had better control over which version of a package is installed, which I don't really need atm
[00:24] <Krixvar> back to work, thanks for the verification on removing the sources :)
[00:25] <valorie> synaptic used to be the best indeed
[00:25] <valorie> glad to help
[00:25] <archetech2> valorie:   same error as above
[00:26] <archetech2> Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:~neon/ubuntu/kf5-snapshot-weekly'.
[00:26] <archetech2> The team named '~neon' has no PPA named 'ubuntu/kf5-snapshot-weekly'
[00:26] <valorie> where are you getting the advice to add that?
[00:26] <valorie> neon is gone.....
[00:27] <archetech2> https://community.kde.org/Plasma/InstallingNext#How_to_install_test_versions_of_Plasma_Next
[00:27] <archetech2> you said this was fixed
[00:28] <valorie> yes, did you clear your cache?
[00:28] <valorie> only /next is advised, or using the plasma5 iso
[00:29] <archetech2> ok cache was the prob
[00:31] <valorie> :-)
[00:33] <archetech2> so my neon install will now break in spectacular ways?
[00:33] <archetech2> heh
[00:33] <valorie> archetech2: at some point you might want to `sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove`
[00:33] <valorie> and get rid of that neon stuff
[00:33] <valorie> once you have successfully added p5
[00:34] <valorie> you will no longer have a neon install
[00:34] <valorie> you'll have plasma 5, and plasma 5 alone
[00:34] <archetech2> good
[00:34] <valorie> this is a big step, and it can kill kittens
[00:34] <valorie> be advised
[00:35] <valorie> that said, I'm loving it
[00:35] <valorie> ...and reporting bugs
[00:35] <archetech2> ok i signed up for trouble when I agreed to install it I fig
[00:36] <valorie> natch
[00:36] <valorie> 14.04 was so solid and clean I got bored
[00:39] <archetech2> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next
[00:39] <archetech2> sudo apt update
[00:39] <archetech2> I ran those and nothing happens  up to date
[00:44] <valorie> there is no output after update?
[00:45] <valorie> archetech2: for the record, your 14.10 install is all running smoothly?
[00:45] <archetech2> very well
[00:46] <valorie> cool
[00:47] <valorie> you know that update just updates the sources, right?
[00:47] <valorie> It doesn't install anything
[00:48] <archetech2> ok  but I run this kf5-config --kde-version I get 5.3.0
[00:48] <valorie> yes
[00:48] <valorie> next isn't the daily-unstable
[00:48] <valorie> which is guaranteed to kill kittens
[00:49] <archetech2> I hate fittens anyhow
[00:49] <archetech2> k
[00:49] <archetech2> jk
[00:50]  * valorie flies off in a fit of rage
[00:50] <archetech2> lol its a sick world
[00:50] <valorie> actually, I'm off to eat dinner in a few mins
[00:51] <archetech2> where we going?
[00:51] <valorie> when I did this upgrade, I had to repeat the steps in a console
[00:51] <valorie> AND i had to remove lightdm manually even after choose SDDM properly
[00:51] <valorie> so be ready to resort to a console
[00:52]  * valorie invites archetech2 over for leftover night
[00:52] <archetech2> For daily builds, install ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable as above.  Ill try this
[00:53] <valorie> be warned, it will blow up
[00:53] <valorie> daily
[00:53] <valorie> that said, we need moar testers
[00:53] <archetech2> i havent got daily
[00:53] <valorie> join #kubuntu-ci to watch the builds
[00:56] <archetech2> ok 2100 to be upgraded :)
[00:56] <archetech2> 210
[00:59] <archetech2> I'll reboot and watch the fireworks   brb
[01:13] <archetech2>  kf5-config --kde-version
[01:13] <archetech2> 5.5.0   :)
[01:29] <keithzg> Ready to take the plunge over into Plasma5 on my laptop, is the official method just the kubuntu-ppa/next ppa?
[01:31] <archetech2> https://community.kde.org/Plasma/InstallingNext#How_to_install_test_versions_of_Plasma_Next
[01:32] <archetech2> I have it on vbox  even unstable repo works well so far
[01:33] <archetech2> keithzg:   I'd use the latest iso
[01:35] <keithzg> archetech2: Well, I'm already running Kubuntu 14.10 on my laptop, so installing via the ISO doesn't make much sense to me.
[01:36] <archetech2> ya im not clairvoyant
[01:37] <keithzg> heh
[01:37] <keithzg> so the ISOs are just drawing from the same packages? ie. if you *did* install via the ISO, it'd have the PPA configured in the sources list?
[01:37] <archetech2> what DE is on that now?
[01:37] <keithzg> I mean, that's what I'm assuming, I just figured I should check.
[01:38] <keithzg> I'm just running bog-standard Kubuntu 14.10 at the moment on here.
[01:38] <archetech2> cli?
[01:38] <archetech2> or kde4?
[01:38] <keithzg> bog-standard Kubuntu, so, not CLI, that'd be ubuntu-server or minimal :P
[01:39] <archetech2> well I said iso because I prefer to start fresh with experimental software
[01:41] <keithzg> Fair enough; I tend to prefer the opposite, since if things break it tends to be far more illuminating, haha
[01:42] <keithzg> I have one machine where I jumped into upgrades for each alpha starting with Kubuntu 5.10 :P
[01:43] <keithzg> It's also a large part of my day job to fix and maintain Linux systems, so jumping in early on test machines lets me worst-case-scenario it.
[01:44] <archetech2> benn on kf5 since 5.0.0   just went to 5.5 tonight
[01:53] <keyonce04> sorry,i went to  my freinds brithday party
[01:53] <keyonce04> hello
[01:53] <keyonce04> hi keithzg
[01:54] <keyonce04> welcome
[01:55] <keyonce04> hi simonides
[01:55] <keyonce04> how is evry one
[01:57] <keyonce04> hi archetech
[01:58] <keyonce04> welcome jikan
[01:58] <keyonce04> how are u
[01:58] <keyonce04> ?
[01:59] <keyonce04> hello
[02:00] <keyonce04> welcome kameloso
[02:01] <keyonce04> keyonce04 is loking for somewone to chat with(i am keyonce04)
[02:03] <keyonce04> hello,archtech
[02:04] <keyonce04> hello?
[02:04] <keyonce04> brb
[02:06] <keyonce04> hi,ppl
[02:14] <valorie> keyonce04: chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:15] <valorie> this chan is for support
[02:15] <valorie> archetech2: so it went well?
[02:16] <keyonce04> do u mean me?
[02:16] <archetech2> valorie:   yes on kf5  5.5.0 now
[02:17] <valorie> keyonce04: this chan is for support
[02:17] <keyonce04> hi
[02:17] <valorie> chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:17] <keyonce04> hi valorie
[02:21] <keyonce04> hello
[02:32] <keyonce04> welcome
[02:36] <valorie> keyonce04: please stop that here
[02:36] <valorie> this channel is for support
[02:36] <keyonce04> what?
[02:37] <keyonce04> please stop what
[02:37] <valorie> typing random greetings
[02:38] <keyonce04> ok
[03:11] <kavaco> hi, can i install the "vgaswitcheroo" on kubuntu?
[03:14] <valorie> !info vgaswitcheroo
[03:15] <valorie> kavaco: have never heard of it
[03:15] <valorie> what is it?
[03:16] <kavaco> valorie: http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/enable-and-use-open-source-radeon-drivers-in-a-muxless-hybrid-graphics-intelamd-setup/
[03:17] <kavaco> swith video cards
[03:17] <kavaco> to me: intel / radeon
[03:29] <valorie> kavaco: you can use xorg/edgers certainly
[03:29] <valorie> kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE after all
[03:29] <valorie> and there was a recent update to that, I heard today
[03:30] <valorie> that tut sounds smack-on
[03:33] <keyonce04> hello
[03:35] <keyonce04> hi,i love to chat
[03:36] <valorie> welcome back
[03:36] <keyonce04> hi,pedro
[03:36] <keyonce04> tnank you
[03:36] <valorie> you know, there are entire networks where people just chat
[03:37] <valorie> pedro?
[03:37] <keyonce04> really
[03:37] <valorie> freenode is not generally one of those networks
[03:37] <valorie> most people here are working in free software
[03:37] <keyonce04> wow
[03:37] <valorie> that is really the point of freenode, after all
[03:38] <keyonce04> yeah
[03:39] <keyonce04> silvia i awake now
[03:40] <valorie> oops, sorry, I mistook this for -offtopic
[03:40] <keyonce04> what?
[03:40] <kavaco> valorie: can you help me?
[03:40] <valorie> as I said before, this is a support channel, NOT a chat channel
[03:41] <keyonce04> hi kavaco
[03:41] <valorie> kavaco: did your tutorial not work?
[03:41] <keyonce04> me?
[03:42] <kavaco> valorie: no
[03:42] <keyonce04> ok
[03:42] <kavaco> hi keyonce04
[03:42] <keyonce04> how are u
[03:42] <kavaco> very nice
[03:42] <valorie> can you show me the error message in a pastebin, kavaco?
[03:42] <valorie> !paste
[03:43] <valorie> keyonce04: please stop that in here, and use #kubuntu-offtopic for chat
[03:43] <kavaco> what command?
[03:43] <keyonce04> ok
[03:43] <valorie> or I will kick you from the channel
[03:43] <valorie> kavaco: were not you following http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/enable-and-use-open-source-radeon-drivers-in-a-muxless-hybrid-graphics-intelamd-setup/ ?
[03:44] <kavaco> wow
[03:44] <kavaco> yes
[03:44] <kavaco> wait please
[03:44] <keyonce04> OK
[03:45] <kavaco> valorie: cat: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado
[03:45] <valorie> kavaco: I don't understand
[03:45] <valorie> did you follow the instructions in your link?
[03:45] <kavaco> on Step 3
[03:46] <kavaco> from tutorial
[03:46] <valorie> kavaco: did you restart, as they instruct?
[03:47] <valorie> and did you enable compositing in systemsettings
[03:47] <valorie> I notice they don't mention kubuntu, but that's where it is
[03:47] <valorie> or just start typing compositing into alt+f2
[03:51] <rx_> hi everyone! is kde supposed to work with nouveau driver? i have probably the most "classic" nvidia card (geforce7) and it doesnt work at all. i have to boot with nomodeset to see something on the screen. then i can install nvidia 304.88 drivers and they work okay with plasma4. however, the same drivers dont work at all with plasma5+... i have to apt remove both nvidia and nouveau driver to get it to work and strangely X reports using vm
[03:51] <rx_> ware drivers (this is a a real machine not a vm)
[03:52] <rx_> vmware
[03:52] <valorie> that sounds very strange
[03:52] <valorie> !nvidia
[03:53] <valorie> I've not messed with drivers for years
[03:53] <valorie> and yes, kde works with nouveau
[03:54] <kavaco> valorie: we forget that tutorial?
[03:54] <kavaco> valorie: and try other alternative, you know.
[03:54] <rx_> its weird because kubuntu 4.10 kde4 installer does not work out of the box with my so classic 5 years old machine without nomodeset... :(
[03:54] <valorie> kavaco: you didn't answer my question
[03:54] <valorie> did you set compositing, and did you restart?
[03:55] <kavaco> no
[03:55] <kavaco> i dont speak english very well
[03:55] <valorie> well, the tutorial writer knows more than both of us put together, so I would follow that advice
[03:55] <valorie> to the letter
[03:55] <kavaco> sometimes, i dont undertand, sorry
[03:56] <valorie> kavaco: step two says to set up compositing
[03:56] <valorie> as i said earlier, just do alt+f2
[03:56] <rx_> hehe that page is olddddd
[03:56] <valorie> then start typing compositing
[03:56] <valorie> and turn that on in systemsetting
[03:56] <valorie> s
[03:56] <valorie> then restart
[03:56] <rx_> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia was updated 4years ago
[03:56] <valorie> THEN you can do step 3
[03:57] <valorie> rx_: sorry about that
[03:57] <kavaco> this @xcompmgr -n?
[03:57] <valorie> as I said, I've not messed with drivers for years
[03:57] <rx_> hehe thats fine ;o)
[03:57] <rx_> im looking for someone with my setup
[03:57] <rx_> i must not be the only one
[03:58] <valorie> this is usually a quiet time in the channel though
[03:58] <valorie> the Europeans aren't up and around yet
[03:58] <rx_> why??? all the gfs are sleeping ;-)
[03:58] <valorie> Americans are all doing something else
[04:00] <kavaco> valorie: i dont update. i ran it now
[04:00] <kavaco> on step one
[04:01] <kavaco> installing the updated packages now
[04:10] <kavaco> valorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9036755/
[04:10] <kavaco> its ok?
[04:18] <valorie> that looks like you already have compositing running, kavaco
[04:18] <valorie> sorry, I'm going to go watch a movie now
[04:18] <valorie> just keep following the tut step by step
[04:19] <kavaco>  valorie: thanks
[04:19] <kavaco> i sleep now
[04:19] <kavaco> on here, brazil, its a 01:19am
[04:19] <kavaco> :D
[04:19] <kavaco> valorie: thank you very mutch
[04:20] <valorie> yw
[04:21] <keyonce04> hello
[08:21] <Name141> How long does 12.04 have?
[08:22] <Name141> And is there a way to stop the 14.04 reminder?
[08:57] <valorie> Name141: reminder?
[08:58] <valorie> !eol
[09:00] <valorie> looks like 12.04.5 will be supported until April 2017
[09:00] <valorie> and if you mean reminders to update, select "LTS" in muon
[09:03] <valorie> Settings > Configure Software sources > Updates
[09:04] <valorie> also you can configure it to never notify you at all
[09:36] <denysonique> How can I make Firefox not look like Sh*t under KDE?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:40] <buriedalive> BluesKaj evening)
[11:55] <BluesKaj> 'evening buriedalive :)
[12:11] <buriedalive> BluesKaj tu) u from? just curious
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Canada...Ontario
[12:13] <buriedalive> oh Canada, my association rock band Rush first)
[12:15] <buriedalive> Russia...Siberia
[12:32] <lince> hola
[12:33] <buriedalive> lince hi there
[12:41] <dinosaur_> where are quassel configuration files?
[12:44] <dinosaur_> .config
[13:47] <User__> Hello
[13:52] <ForgeAus> KDE5? wow ... whats everyone think of it so far?
[13:52] <ForgeAus> looks less klunky than kde4 initially did
[13:55] <Konwhald> still sticking with KDE4. I don't like the Plasma 5 theme, but it looks like there is a lot of improvements
[13:56] <Konwhald> i hope there are some improvements for tablets. KDE at the moment on tablet is good but has some horrible edges
[14:03] <ForgeAus> was that kde-active?
[14:21] <amichair> Hi, is there a mysql-server-5.5 debug symbols package available for kubuntu 14.10?
[14:22] <yofel> amichair: there is a mysql-server-5.5-dbgsym, which is in the ddebs repo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages
[14:25] <amichair> yofel: thanks
[14:28] <Konwhald> Hi there, i have a lot of issues with KDE here, on 14.04
[14:29] <Konwhald> i have plain knotify grey notifications, no plasma notifications
[14:29] <Konwhald> does someone have an idea how to fix that ? It's really annoying
[14:45] <BluesKaj> Konwhald, could be a kde-workspace issue
[15:07] <dinosaur_> where do I best report a bug in Kubuntu (specifically in quassel)?
[15:09] <BluesKaj_> dinosaur_, https://bugs.kde.org/
[15:09] <dinosaur_> It was already reported, but seems like nothings has been improved
[15:10] <dinosaur_> BluesKaj_: seems like it has nothing to do with KDE
[15:10] <BluesKaj_> dinosaur_, in quassell help/Report Bug ,will set it up for you
[15:13] <dinosaur_> I'm not sure if I should report it if it already has been done. http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/1275.
[15:14] <BluesKaj_> dinosaur_, then just choose the "it happens to me" option on the page
[15:16] <BluesKaj_> or not if there's no such option
[15:18] <dinosaur_> OK, I'll leave it for now. I could probably fix it on my own if I really wanted. They could fix it too, but I don't want to send them my database. So no.
[15:18] <dinosaur_> Will Linux be the proper choice for backuping Windows?
[15:22] <dinosaur_> Heh, just found a second bug in quassel
[15:35] <BluesKaj_> dinosaur_, no, use windows.old folder on a backup ntfs partition, and you can do that in windows
[15:38] <dinosaur_> BluesKaj_: I want to store it on a CD.
[15:38] <dinosaur_> brb
[15:47] <blade_> how about resource usage in kubuntu vs makaro kde
[15:48] <blade_> is kubuntu light or how vailla it is ? because in manjaro its not kde anymore
[15:50] <blade_> ubuntu unity is very lagging
[15:50] <BluesKaj_> blade_, dunno , never tried manjaro
[15:50] <blade_> is kubuntu  snappy
[15:50] <BluesKaj_> bla depends o lot on your HW
[15:50] <BluesKaj_> blade_,
[15:51] <blade_> its a old system
[15:51] <BluesKaj_> how old?
[15:51] <blade_> centrino 2 cpu 3gb ram 128 mb graphics
[15:51] <blade_> unity runs fine but getts slow after like using it for 20 mins
[15:51] <blade_> firefox gets slow hangs a bit
[15:52] <blade_> i have tried many distro but not able to settle
[15:52] <BluesKaj_> kuuntu ruan nicely here with those specs , even quicker now with 6G ram
[15:53] <blade_> but its the apps
[15:53] <blade_> i want to use gtk apps
[15:53] <blade_> would they rune fine, ugly ?
[15:55] <yofel> if you mean from a theme side they'll look about the same as any other application (as long as you stick to oxygen) as they'll use oxygen-gtk(3)
[15:56] <johnn> is it true that plasma5 tech preview iso image doesnt boot into live desktop?
[15:57] <johnn> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kubuntu-utopic-plasma5.html
[16:02] <blade_> i hate kde default menu
[16:02] <blade_> is there any way i can replace it with anything
[16:02] <BluesKaj_> johnn, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/pending/
[16:03] <BluesKaj_> blade_, switch to classic menu by right clicking on the kmenu and choosing it
[16:03] <yofel> blade_: there is the traditional launcher with a menu that you could add. And there's homerun which is more unity like
[16:07] <blade_> im more familair with a bar at top
[16:07] <blade_> can i change the way kde looks
[16:07] <blade_> so i can change menu can i make it more like xfce
[16:08] <yofel> you can move the panel wherever you want
[16:09] <yofel> and xfce is a simple menu if I remember correctly? Then the classic menu is likely what you want
[16:09] <blade_> homerun looks awesome
[16:09] <blade_> what are the prefered apps in kde world
[16:10] <blade_> like im used to gnome apps
[16:10] <blade_> what are ur preffered apps
[16:13] <BluesKaj_> depends on the usage..think there's a page that shows kde and gtk equivalents
[16:17] <johnn> thanks blueskaj does this image boots properly?
[16:18] <BluesKaj_> johnn, yes, it did when i tried it a month ago
[16:56] <tupacfan> hi guys
[16:56] <tupacfan> anyone wanna help me backup my mp3s?
[16:57] <tupacfan> hi
[16:57] <tupacfan> gmopkub you wanna backup my mp3s?
[16:58] <tupacfan> hi
[17:57] <cRzy> good day
[17:57] <cRzy> any one here
[17:58] <cRzy> i have a question
[17:59] <soee__> ask
[18:00] <cRzy> echo -e "\e[8;30;60t"
[18:00] <cRzy> in konsole
[18:00] <cRzy> dsent works
[18:00] <cRzy> any work around ?
[18:04] <cRzy> ?
[18:06] <tsimpson> what do you expect that command to do?
[18:06] <cRzy> to resize konsole window
[18:06] <cRzy> it works greate with gnome-terminal
[18:06] <cRzy> i dev in perl and i resize alot of terminal windows, but im new to kde
[18:06] <cRzy> and i have this problem with konsole
[18:07] <cRzy> i need to resize the window from within the script
[18:07] <cRzy> foreach my $val (sort keys %ENV) {
[18:07] <cRzy>         
[18:07] <cRzy> 	if ($val eq "XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP" && $ENV{$val} eq "KDE" ) {
[18:07] <cRzy> 		#code
[18:07] <cRzy> 	}
[18:07] <cRzy> 	else {
[18:07] <unopaste> cRzy you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:08] <cRzy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9046382/
[18:08] <cRzy> ^
[18:08] <cRzy> see
[18:13] <cRzy> no ?
[18:15] <tsimpson> the command does work, but it won't resize the window (just the space available for the terminal)
[18:15] <cRzy> yes i have understood that
[18:15] <cRzy> is ther a way to achive the same without opening a new window ?
[18:18] <tsimpson> you can resize the window via DBus, but you'll have to convert the size into pixels
[18:18] <tsimpson> I don't know of a way to do it via xterm escape sequences
[18:24] <cRzy> thanks
[18:24] <cRzy> :*
[19:54] <Guest9019> witam
[19:56] <arek__> witam
[20:05] <Roey> Hello everyone.  I have a Crucial/Micron m500.  Found a web page[1] mentioning that it is on a Linux kernel blacklist: http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/M500-M5x0-QUEUED-TRIM-data-corruption-alert-mostly-for-Linux/td-p/151028/page/4  <-- does my 3.13 kernel support TRIM for this Crucial/Micron M500 device?
[20:36] <Roey> hi, how can I tell if my system is using TRIM?  I tried "grep -i trim /boot/config-*", and the command returned no output.
[20:40] <skinux> What is the Bluetooth management application?
[20:41] <soee__> bluedevil ?
[21:19] <mparillo> On Apper, I can search for and add kteatime, kblocks, and other small packages. Muon Discover does not have them, but has 'big' packages such as rekonq, so the little packages, I have to add with apt. Is that a packaging difference between Kubuntu and Fedora/OpenSUSE, or Apper versus Muon Discover, or RPMs/yum versus DEBs/apt?
[22:04] <kingjere> If I add a new service menu entry in /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus do I have to do something to make it take effect?
[22:13] <kingjere> Ok, now it shows up in the menu, but it doesn't work?Exec=/bin/sh -c ";tiff2pdf -z -p letter -o `date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M-%S`.pdf %f"
[22:16] <kingjere> It seems that my `date blahblah` command makes it fail. I wonder why.
[22:59] <toothe> what's the difference between LTS and non-LTS?
[22:59] <toothe> from an end-users perspective?
[23:45] <skinux> Anyone know of a good .epub reader application?
[23:46] <bprompt> skinux:     just to read? or to make ?
[23:46] <skinux> Just to read
[23:47] <bprompt> skinux:    hmm..... there's fbreader.... and there's also a firefox addon for it   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/epubreader/
[23:49] <skinux> Also, what are the most official sources for finding out info such as current rankings/usages of various softwares, usages of programming languages on Linux, things trending on Linux, etc?
[23:51] <skinux> Well, I installed the Firefox extension, but I can't figure out how to open an ePub document that is saved to my computer.
[23:52] <skinux> Nevermind. I can open it by browsing to the file path in browser (using Firefox as a File Browser)