[00:00] i dont want to return to windows :( i want a solution. You know i was going to buy you lot vodkas for this as a thank you but no i rather save myself [00:05] bug in launchpad has an "easy" workaround: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1358936 [00:05] Launchpad bug 1358936 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[gm45] L-shaped memory with invalid swizzling" [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:06] what about the rest [00:07] rest of what? [00:07] thats only the launchpad [00:07] what about the desktop [00:07] the windows [00:08] launchpad is a website [00:08] it is the bug tracker specifically for ubuntu [00:08] what is launchpad? [00:08] >_< [00:09] it doesn't matter [00:09] im serious, us russians are 2 years if not 10 years behind everyone else [00:09] or at least where i came from [00:09] reboot into your normal install [00:09] then i will tell you how to apply the workaround [00:09] give me 2 minutes [00:10] ali1234: I couldn't tell from #29 if the fix was in drm-intel-next, in which case it might be in the ppa, but I'm not sure it is [00:13] the problem seems to be share GPU memory getting swapped out, when it is swapped back in it is swizzled [00:14] but guys he offered you free drinks! ugh :P [00:15] before we do this, does this get rid of the screen artifacts [00:15] maybe [00:16] if it does i will buy you a good vodka for you [00:20] are you ready then? === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [00:20] im always ready [00:21] okay, open a terminal [00:21] run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" [00:22] instaliing [00:22] done [00:22] run "free -m | pastebinit" and then paste the link it prints [00:23] i do that in the terminal [00:23] yes [00:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9034204/ [00:24] okay, now run "sudo nano -w /etc/default/grub" [00:25] bunch of things came up [00:25] right it is a text editor [00:25] ## If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update # /boot/grub/grub.cfg. # For full documentation of the options in this file, see: # info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' GRUB_DEFAULT=0 #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" # Uncomment to en [00:25] don't paste here [00:25] find the line that says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" [00:26] change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="mem=1590mb" [00:26] can i copy that in the test editor [00:27] no [00:27] okay i believe i have done that [00:28] press ctrl-o enter ctrl-x [00:28] this will save and quit [00:28] do i press y [00:29] you just press enter [00:29] enter didnt work so i press y which took me to a bunch of other things ^^ [00:30] then you didn't follow the instructions correctly [00:30] i bet it says the file is read-only and is now asking you for a different file name [00:31] file name to write: /etc/default/grub [00:31] yeah, you didn't run nano with sudo [00:31] confused [00:32] press ctrl-c to cancel saving then ctrl-x to quit [00:32] confirm you don't want to save changes [00:32] now run it again "sudo nano -w /etc/default/grub" [00:33] okay [00:33] down [00:33] *done [00:33] make the edit again and press ctrl-o enter to save [00:34] then ctrl-x to quit [00:34] the same thing as before [00:35] show me a screen shot [00:35] * daftykins wonders if this is the install or live session right now [00:36] may take a while, give me 3 mins [00:38] https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwdapa7bxyndakf/Screenshot%20from%202014-11-16%2000%3A35%3A51.png?dl=0 [00:39] okay, press ctrl-o [00:40] okay [00:40] now press enter [00:40] i send you a another screen shot just in case [00:41] https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwdapa7bxyndakf/Screenshot%20from%202014-11-16%2000%3A35%3A51.png?dl=0 [00:41] wait [00:41] okay [00:41] is it correct what im doing [00:42] i don't know, that's the same screenshot [00:42] is it? [00:43] exact same link yip [00:44] https://www.dropbox.com/s/p6g227rhkp18jrj/Screenshot%20from%202014-11-16%2000%3A43%3A39.png?dl=0 [00:44] okay, press enter [00:46] https://www.dropbox.com/s/uc1uqjmy6rl56qk/Screenshot%20from%202014-11-16%2000%3A45%3A29.png?dl=0 [00:46] okay, press ctrl-x [00:46] okay everything went [00:46] good. [00:47] now run "subo update-grub" [00:47] sorry, "sudo update-grub" [00:47] theres more ._. [00:48] chin up. [00:48] https://www.dropbox.com/s/bgw3wcw5j58o3a5/Screenshot%20from%202014-11-16%2000%3A47%3A46.png?dl=0 [00:48] now reboot and you are done [00:49] reboot? [00:49] you serious [00:49] yes reboot [00:49] yes [00:49] you'll have to bookmark your vietnam songs [00:49] the kernel command line option you entered only applies at boot up [00:50] be back 2 minutes. thanks dafty for that tip [00:52] holy moly it much faster than before [00:52] it took 5 secs to boot up ubuntu [00:52] that seems unlikely, but i guess it is possible [00:52] what this workaround does is reserve 384mb for use only by the graphics card [00:52] this prevents GPU memory from being swapped [00:53] it does mean you have less memory for programs though [00:53] really? Because firefox opened fasterwith all my tabs will there [00:53] well maybe that is because t isn't swapping graphics memory [00:54] ali1234: Nice find [00:54] i own you vodka for making my computer into super fast [00:54] f [00:54] dont worry that was just your old connection closing [00:55] oh thought i was banned [00:55] now will this stop screen artifacts [00:55] hopefully [00:56] odd that older intel chipsets still have issues [00:56] i will give it 10 minutes [00:56] daftykins: they keep rewriting the acceleration code [00:58] and then not really checking them on old stuff I think [00:59] :/ [01:09] ali do you want good news? [01:09] or bad news [01:10] is smoke involved? [01:11] nope [01:11] well kind of [01:17] the screen artifacts has returned [01:20] you can try reserving more memory for GPU but you don't really have much memory in the system [01:22] reserving more memory? I reserved about 500mb [01:22] yeah, people reported needing to reserve up to 1000mb [01:22] but that is half of your memory [01:22] plus it might not even work [01:23] you could try it though, it's not hard to undo [01:23] what are the chances for it working [01:23] no idea [01:23] check if the workaround is even working first [01:23] free -m | pastebinit [01:25] i did that [01:25] in terminal [01:26] i get a website [01:26] paste it [01:26] here? [01:26] yes [01:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9034950/ [01:27] yeah it's working [01:27] and you are also using swap [01:27] is that good? [01:27] not really no [01:27] you can try setting mem=1024mb [01:28] hell no [01:28] this probably won't leave enough memory for programs though [01:28] 1024 is too much [01:28] at the moment [01:28] i can get more ram in [01:28] yeah i was just about to suggest that [01:28] but not now [01:29] maybe in 2 days time [01:29] i try 1024. What ram is good for ubuntu [01:29] doesn't matter [01:29] can you give me the steps again [01:30] really tried, its 1:30 here and need to sleep in 30 mins or else i be dead as hell [01:30] and my sleeping pattern will chang [01:30] the steps are here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/188641177/Bug%20Report%20-%20Intel%20X4500%20Garbled%20Graphics%20Fix.pdf [01:31] can you start me off [01:32] sudo nano -w /etc/default/grub [01:32] make changes [01:32] ctrl-o enter ctrl-x [01:32] sudo update-grub [01:32] reboot [01:33] so i put in 1024 right [01:33] the amount you put in is the amount to use for programs, whatever is left will be used for GPU [01:34] wait does this affect my window 7 [01:34] no [01:34] okay [01:34] give me 2 mins [01:34] can i log off? [01:34] or do i have to reboot [01:34] you have to reboot when changing it [02:07] urgh that was horrible [02:08] i'm eating a bowl of crunchy nut corn flakes, i got to this large clump of them that hadn't formed properly - it was all soft :S [02:08] kinda tasted like peanut butter [02:09] you do realise it's 2am ? [02:10] yep [02:10] that was breakfast. [02:10] breakfast - at 2am? [02:11] needless to say i'm a rather wonky individual when it comes to waking hours [02:11] i was up all night and even had breakfast down in the restaurant beside me at ~9am [02:12] played some game until mid-day then slept until midnight [02:12] well yes, I was about to go to bed; I guess I need to switch back to normal hours on Monday [02:12] after a week off [02:13] :D [02:13] i hope you made the best of it! [02:14] hmm, well, got a few things done I'd been planning to, couple of days out and about, taking it easy [02:14] excellent [02:14] one of the Canadian chap volunteers from #ubuntu is enjoying some time in Vegas this weekend [02:15] they freaked a bit when he started up his laptop at security and didn't recognise the OS, apparently [02:15] then they imaged up his drives =| [02:15] and I've just succeeded in the (very first bit) of one thing I was intending to do, which was build a kernel for my phone; not hacked around much with it yet [02:15] daftykins: ! [02:16] ah nice, android, or? [02:16] daftykins: Yeh, android/cyanogenmod 11, but wanted to fiddle with the kernel a bit [02:17] neat :D [02:17] i've put CM11 on a couple of devices [02:17] it's a bit annoying having to use fastboot to push a new kernel to one of them, with every different build i flash on [02:17] this one is an odd Oppo Find 7 phone, I won it, but it's default ROM was very odd, but it is known for having a lot of other ROMs available [02:18] daftykins: Imaging a laptop just because they didn't recognise the OS is very odd [02:18] ah well that's more of a mistake on my wording most likely [02:18] i think the Canada <-> US border does a lot of drive imaging regardless [02:19] he said they disassembled his machine [02:19] wow [02:19] that may've just meant for drive access though [02:19] still wow, I mean I can see demoing they want to power the machine on to know it's not a bomb or anything, but that's just mean [02:20] yep :( [02:21] i want to visit a friend in the upper peninsula of Michigan next year some time, there's another mate just over the water in Canada too [02:21] makes you wonder what they'd consider doing though if i had a laptop in tow [02:22] sounds like you should take one with a nice simple image on [02:23] indeed! [02:24] it's odd, I thought the general belief was they treated Canadian's as harmless [02:25] i guess anyone running Linux could be a hacker ;) [02:25] there was a video done a few years ago to highlight the difference between canadian and mexican borders, of two guys walking across the canadian border in a pantomime horse [02:26] XD [05:01] hi all [05:01] the night owls up again? [05:01] L( [05:01] :) [05:09] twit-twoo [05:11] hey [05:11] :) [05:11] mornin' [05:12] got that laptop yet? [05:12] nah [05:12] still says preparing for dispatch [05:12] del date expected 18th nov - 22nd [05:16] it'll be Christmas before i know it :( [05:17] heh [05:17] yep [05:17] unexciting eh [05:18] definitely had a few to many of them now [05:19] annoying how excited people get..wow presents and junk food [05:19] what are you..12 [05:19] :D [05:19] hehehe [05:58] arrow s3e1 then SLEEP:d === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [08:42] +++breaking news+++ it's sunny outside and not raining [08:42] ! [08:43] heh, the sun coming out brought rain, here [08:43] seems to have halted though [08:43] either that of the floodwaters are reflecting the meagre amount of light to make it look much brighter than it is [08:44] is it really flooding by you 0o [08:45] well i live on a hill and despite the weathers spirited attempts at leaving 2-3" of standing water it has drained away nicely, thank you isaac newtown [09:35] morning folks - I'm back... and freenode now knows it's real me! ;) [09:35] morning o/ [09:39] curently watching a spat on twitter between Anonymous the KKK swine - KKK issuing threats - Anonymous laughs :D [09:40] guess who's taking who's server down.... I feel so sorry for KKK swine - NOT! [09:40] but aren't the kkk more inclusive now? :-p [09:42] lol [09:42] * zmoylan-pi has hot porridge to chase away the cold [09:43] and if true it might make them a smidge more tolerant than gamergate shower [09:43] but that's a big IF [09:44] hmmmmm - bad is bad no matter what face it wears [09:45] and once i saw this pic of the kkk i could never take them seriously again... http://www.pinterest.com/pin/47569339787070339/ [09:47] having just seen that pic I now have a stomach ache - from laughing [09:47] what ever do you mean zmoylan-pi ? that's just halloween in a small town [09:47] ;) [10:01] Hey Ali, my computer don't boot ubuntu now. It's slow as my grandma if not slower. [10:05] how far does it get? and what did you do? [10:05] I was told to get 1024 of ram to my graphics [10:05] Did so [10:06] rebooted [10:06] It shows the purple screen [10:06] *Give not get [10:07] did you do that in BIOS? [10:07] [if so - restore to previous setting?] [10:07] no, GRUB kernel parameters [10:07] oh! [10:07] TheBlackRussian: so change it back. [10:08] daftykins, +1 [10:08] this here fine user is getting some nasty intel embedded graphics corruption [10:08] yup [10:08] how do I changet it back [10:09] !recovery | TheBlackRussian [10:09] TheBlackRussian: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [10:11] to be honest with you guys I don't even have access to my computer. don't know why I came on so early [10:11] as in you're not near it? [10:11] oh well, see the above link and bear it in mind for when you are [10:12] about 23 miles away [10:12] :D [10:12] TheBlackRussian, write down the link given - use it from wherever & whenever is best for you [10:13] ...prefereably not a toilet though! ;) [10:14] http://thehackernews.com/2014/11/rootpipe-critical-mac-os-x-yosemite.html [10:14] I don't have a clue. I come on later when I have access to my computer. Either way we'll I'm here do you know how to get of screen artifacts [10:14] hah. [10:14] TheBlackRussian: you've already been given the best advice, really. your issue isn't fixed and probably won't be for some time if at all [10:15] was it a laptop? [10:15] The best advice I was given was to throw my computer at the window but can't do so because I'm a poor man :(. It's a desktop [10:16] buy a graphics card for it [10:17] Have to wait for christmas [10:17] Don't have time [10:17] alright, i don't need your life story [10:18] :) [10:18] Nor money! I broke my gaming rig because my new sad failed to boot windows [10:18] a thought - what about a complete Ubuntu reinstall? That would also overwrite the grub mess-up... and you could tell the install to keep existing /home intact [10:18] SuperEngineer: no, it's an intel driver flaw, ali1234 found [10:19] oooops [10:19] my bad [10:19] that's alright, you didn't know the events of last night :> [10:20] too true [10:21] i'm really impressed by how far folding@home has come along [10:21] the client now has CPU + GPU operation integrated [10:21] guY's, I have a laptop. It has 1gig of ram and have intel hd in but the screen has been punched. It boots with a monitor but doesn't boot at the first bit (I don't see f1 etc.) Is there a way to bypass this [10:22] no [10:22] something with 1GB RAM, bury it. [10:22] :) [10:24] glad the laptops not mine. What happens if I stole that 1gig stick and put it in my computer. will the screen artifacts go away [10:24] no. [10:24] they might not even be compatible [10:25] my main computer has 1g of ram, and i'm looking at using a rasp pi as a replacement with 512mb :-) [10:25] oh don't make things more awkward by offering false hope :P [10:25] 1 sec. need to play some vietnam song before I go mental. These screen artifacts are killing me [10:26] yeah i like weird low spec systems and it's very much an endurance test for most [10:26] TheBlackRussian: i thought you said you were miles away from it. [10:26] I'm in a tablet which is miles away [10:26] zmoylan-pi: heh, i can't stand anything running slowly [10:26] i'm worse now that i have SSDs everywhere [10:27] how can I being my destop with me all the time [10:27] it's a test of character daftykins :-) [10:27] my desktop only has 12G RAM. i'm basically using a commodore 64 here. [10:27] by the time I get home I be a old man [10:27] zmoylan-pi: nah i started with low spec, i have no desire to go back === brobosti1on is now known as brobostigon [10:30] morning boys and girls. [10:30] hi sir [10:30] morning daftykins [10:31] ali1234: thank you, thats very helpful. [10:38] Morning. [10:38] morning sir [10:39] morning popey [10:40] o? [10:41] o? [10:41] drafty, your telling me theY's no solution to screen artifacts what so ever [10:42] bah, wifey asking me to prioritise everything on my amazon wishlist [10:43] TheBlackRussian: they might fix the driver in time, but there's no guarantee. [10:43] the whole point of having 8 pages of stuff is so other people choose, not me [10:43] popey, let me tell you a story of an un-prioritized wishlist [10:43] haha [10:43] i have prioritised it a bit [10:43] popey, i was given a ps4 camera, from my wishlist. i don't own a ps4 yet. [10:43] people go for the cheapest? [10:44] this was last xmas. [10:44] lightsabre chopsticks, low [10:44] ah, oops [10:44] i was also bought a vita game from my wishlist. but not the vita which was also on the list. [10:44] directhex, there are, perhaps, some who might say: why is there a camera you can't use on your wishlist? [10:44] how were they to know that you didn't get the vita? [10:44] oh dear. [10:44] Oh, I'm the only person in the world if not few who has a low intel graphics who experience this problem Why does god hate :( Who's fixing this problem [10:44] aquarius_: you prioritise it below the thing that it goes with, is the idea, i think [10:45] zmoylan-pi, it was on the wishlist! [10:45] TheBlackRussian: what problem, take a photo and show me. [10:45] popey, I see the theory, but to me the priority of your list is how much you want the things, not how much I want to buy them for you (which is largely governed by price :)) [10:45] http://askubuntu.com/questions/547982/ubuntu-14-10-screen-artifacts-how-do-i-fix?noredirect=1#comment751464_547982 [10:45] TheBlackRussian: also "lspci | grep Graphics [10:45] two friends have just bought PS4's whilst another two of us have Xbox Ones :/ life = ruined! [10:46] yes and that just suggests it was looking like you'd have a vita by the time you got the vita game [10:46] TheBlackRussian: excellent [10:46] popey: ali1234 already found an intel driver bug on launchpad i believe [10:46] quiet dafty [10:46] Your putt ING him off [10:47] TheBlackRussian: you might not think so but i'm helping you, by giving others shortcuts so you don't waste their time [10:47] TheBlackRussian: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21191 ? [10:47] Freedesktop bug 21191 in Server/Acceleration/EXA "Screen corruptions on intel hardware" [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] [10:47] oh there's loads of intel video driver bugs ☻ [10:48] TheBlackRussian: have you filed a bug? [10:48] let me see if i can find last nights link [10:48] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1358936 [10:48] Launchpad bug 1358936 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[gm45] L-shaped memory with invalid swizzling" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:49] awesome bug title [10:49] :D [10:49] it's occurring on memory swap i think was the idea [10:50] well, the fact that chris wilson knows about it... [10:50] No I haven't [10:50] given he's the intel video driver maintainer [10:51] TheBlackRussian: i would... run "ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-intel" on the command line and follow the prompts (will need a launchpad id) [10:51] but it could be a duplicate of that bug daftykins mentioned, but I'd let chris figure that out [10:52] * popey plays a bit of openspades. [10:52] TheBlackRussian: did you install 14.04 64-bit on your machine? [10:52] i think that on 2GB RAM is a bit meh. [10:53] probably contributes to this issue [10:53] Popey I'm about 23 miles from my computer, i install ed 64 bt [10:54] ty ping non a tablet is hard when eating [10:54] TheBlackRussian: you said you had a gaming machine, why not put the graphics card from that in? :P [10:54] even a £25 card would probably avoid that issue [10:55] I broke my rig months ago. Sold all working bits. Ubuntu don't need a graphics card! the website of ubuntu doesn't stat you need a graphics card [10:55] it does? [10:55] lmao. [10:56] TheBlackRussian, you don't need a *separate* graphics card, indeed; motherboards have graphics cards built into them, and Ubuntu works fine with those too. [10:56] aquarius_: that's what's in use and that's what's bugged [10:56] not much point giving generic advice if you don't follow the conversation :) [10:56] daftykins, sure, yep; I have read. [10:57] oh, how come you said that then 0o [10:57] well.actually.cat [10:57] motherboards don't have built-in graphics any more. [10:57] cat you say, hmmm [10:57] indeed, but that's irrelevant pedantry sir ;) [10:58] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo [10:58] Fair enough but what you said means my computer SHOULD work [10:58] TheBlackRussian, the issue is that there's a bug with the driver for that built-in graphics card. So people are suggesting that you try using a separate graphics card instead -- not because Ubuntu *requires* one, but because there is a bug with the driver for the one you have, and the quickest way to solve that would be to use a different card (which won't have the driver bug). [10:58] normally [10:58]