[07:21] <somaunn> hi guys
[07:21] <somaunn>  hi Kil
[07:26] <Squirm> morning
[07:38] <Kilos> morning all of ya
[07:40] <somaunn> Kilos: morning bro
[07:41] <somaunn> talking about wayland guys
[07:41] <Kilos> hi somaunn 
[07:41] <somaunn> what will it really bring to the linux distro world
[07:44] <Kilos> what is wayland
[07:46] <somaunn> Wayland. Wayland is intended as a simpler replacement for X, easier to develop and maintain. GNOME and KDE are expected to be ported to it.
[07:46] <somaunn> source: wayland.freedesktop.org
[07:50] <Kilos> thats too much for me to think about 
[07:51] <Kilos> i read up on elementary os a bit and it could be interesting to try
[07:51] <Kilos> ive never seen osx so have no idea what it looks like
[07:52] <Kilos> someone said here months ago we should try it, being very fast is what will make me even consider
[07:54] <somaunn> Elementary OS  is a good distro to use
[07:55] <somaunn> was buggy the time i tried it but i guess it's now more mature but becareful i also feel like there is no real support or community thing like we see for Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu etc.
[07:59] <Kilos> how long ago did you try it?
[08:00] <Kilos> if its ubuntu based then one should be able to fix it without their support
[08:00] <Kilos> someone here uses it
[08:03] <somaunn> i used the days i was in S.A
[08:04] <somaunn> discover Elementary OS on a DVD found Linux Mag bought in Alberton Mall
[08:04] <somaunn> really enjoyed it 
[08:07] <Kilos> ah ill try it sometime, will download the iso when im awake after midnight one day
[08:07] <Kilos> hehe
[08:11] <somaunn> I propose you first read about Enlightment prior to that https://www.enlightenment.org/?p=about/e17
[08:11] <Kilos> ty will do
[08:13] <somaunn> liked it those days but now I'm Plasma from blood to Desktop
[08:13] <somaunn> ##All human should use Plasma because it's biologically part of them##
[08:14] <Kilos> what has that to do with elementary os?
[08:15] <Kilos> its another distro and you need to compile stuff
[08:15] <Kilos> i cant compile, i want a working system
[08:15] <somaunn> you will get it okay
[08:16] <Kilos> thats why i will try something based on ubuntu or maybe debian but no other things
[08:16] <somaunn> just install use and crash something, it's the way IT stuffs worx and the way the discover everything we know
[08:17] <Kilos> no man my kde here dont crash, i have to zero the drive to mess it up
[08:17] <Kilos> do you know the drive zero command
[08:18] <Kilos> you can break lots of drives with it but then they are seen as brand new drives and your motherboard has to write a new mbr in
[08:19] <somaunn> drive zero ???
[08:19] <somaunn> nope
[08:19] <Kilos> lemme find it for you
[08:20] <somaunn> K
[08:20] <Kilos> very handy for drives that have got corrupted by virusses or malware
[08:20] <Kilos> i have got a few scrap drives working again after using it
[08:21] <Kilos> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[08:21] <Kilos> you have to use sudo
[08:24] <Kilos> do you throw away drives that cant boot?
[08:25] <Kilos> hiya gremble 
[08:25] <gremble> Good morning Kilos 
[08:26] <gremble> How're you this fine day?
[08:27] <somaunn> Kilos: Ty i never throw away drives i use a linux distro that does this kind of thing [wipe, drive zero, etc...] and get them back to life
[08:27] <Kilos> ah
[08:28] <Kilos> im good ty gremble 
[09:38] <Kilos> i might crash me here sometime, gonna tell testdisk write
[09:38] <Kilos> hehe
[10:07] <Kilos> so guys what is the tool to use to see what is using how much of your resources
[10:10] <gremble> htop
[10:10] <gremble> or top, but htop is like the upgraded version
[10:14] <Kilos> ty sir
[10:20] <gremble> no
[10:20] <gremble> np*
[11:26] <Kilos> hmm... ping got him
[14:08] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:09] <gremble> Hmm?
[14:10] <Kilos> i just made a booboo again
[14:11] <Kilos> rsynced /home/ to ~/Desktop/home/
[14:11] <Kilos> and it got into a loop adding more and more
[14:12] <gremble> Sounds like you are having fun
[14:12] <gremble> :P
[14:12] <gremble> kill the process 
[14:12] <gremble> vokken muskiete
[14:17] <Kilos> lol
[14:17] <Kilos> get a software sigen and make it scream at them to chase them away man
[14:18] <Kilos> sig gen
[14:19] <Kilos> you can watch them while you tuning it to get the right frequency
[14:20] <gremble> that seems like it would just annoy me more than they do
[14:21] <Kilos> you cant hear at the mosquitos frequency
[14:21] <Kilos> around 60k i think
[14:24] <gremble> Lol
[14:24] <gremble> Still more work for me
[14:24] <gremble> where I should be doing linear algebra
[14:24] <gremble> :P
[14:25] <Kilos> then get some tabard and rub it onto exposed places
[14:25] <Kilos> chemists supply
[14:33] <gremble> Funny how tabart is your second option :P
[14:33] <gremble> It is clearly the easier of the lot
[14:38] <Kilos> lol ya i used it when i was in st lucia
[14:38] <Kilos> but it costs and a software sig gen doesnt
[14:55] <Kilos> gremble you might find it interesting. the talk about nosy maths peeps
[14:55] <Kilos> http://www.arachnoid.com/python/signalgen_program.html
[14:56] <gremble> :P
[14:56] <gremble> i will have a look 
[15:01] <Kilos> in the second line tick available here to get the later version
[17:17] <inetpro> good evening
[17:45] <Kilos> hi inetpro i was just going to ping you
[17:46] <inetpro> uh
[17:46] <Kilos> if i rsync /var/ and /home/ to a stick is that all i will need to reinstall and get it the same as this or must i sync /usr/ and /etc as well
[17:47] <inetpro> no
[17:48] <inetpro> why reinstall?
[17:48] <Kilos> i have run testdisk here and am ready to get it to write the old partitions from before i zeroed this drive and had to install but bang the write messes something up and i need to reinstall
[17:48] <Kilos> because i didnt remember the partition sizes when i made new ones
[17:49] <Kilos> hi Golynx 
[17:49] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[17:50] <Golynx> where is that other guy?
[17:50] <Kilos> inetpro: im hoping the testdisk write function restores everything that was in the /storage/ partition
[17:50] <Kilos> what other guy Golynx 
[17:50] <Golynx> wana know if he know how to play cellc competition
[17:51] <Kilos> oh
[17:51] <Golynx> forgot his nick
[17:51] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:51] <Kilos> go read the logs
[17:51] <Kilos> hehe i cant even find them
[17:52] <Golynx> turned logs off here hehe
[17:52] <Kilos> no man there are online logs somewhere
[17:52] <Golynx> anyway it feels good to win stuff lol
[17:53] <Kilos> yeah
[17:53] <Golynx> won tjis on Friday :D http://global.blackberry.com/content/dam/blackBerry/images/device/smartphone/blackberry-10/q5/structured/q5/global/desktop/black/specs-hero.png
[17:53] <Golynx> this*
[17:53] <Kilos> its a good start now start winning at everything you do
[17:53] <Kilos> wow
[17:54] <Kilos> those things are expensive albeit not favoured by most here
[17:54] <Golynx> that phone got more specs than my lappy eish!
[17:54] <Golynx> yeah around R4000
[17:54] <Kilos> i see bb and samsung are going to work together soon
[17:55] <Golynx> but i never had a smartphone, and getting one for free ,is heaven lol
[17:55] <Golynx> where did you see that news?
[17:55] <Kilos> yeah my sis and boet have them and love them
[17:56] <Kilos> in mobilebroadband news
[17:56] <Kilos> yesterday i think
[17:57] <Golynx> oh nice, but i wanted a Android phone but entered the bb competition 
[17:57] <Kilos> no matter any smart fone is better than none
[17:57] <Golynx> thats wierd , Samsung and bb 
[17:58] <Golynx> yeah true :) 
[17:58] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry interwebs terrible here
[17:59] <Kilos> np inetpro what did you miss?
[17:59] <Kilos> i can repost
[17:59] <Kilos> inetpro: 
[17:59] <Kilos> i have run testdisk here and am ready to get it to write the old partitions from before i zeroed this drive and had to install but bang the write messes something up and i need to reinstall
[17:59] <Kilos> [19:48] <Kilos> because i didnt remember the partition sizes when i made new ones
[18:00] <Kilos> so it might crash things here
[18:06] <Golynx> what command is used when windows dont appear in boot menu?
[18:10] <Golynx> nevermind found it, sudo update-grub :)
[18:10] <Kilos> hehe
[18:10] <Kilos> you were supposed to remember them commands
[18:11] <Kilos> you wrote them down back then
[18:11] <Kilos> inetpro: restart your router
[18:11] <Kilos> the net is good tonight
[18:12] <Kilos> hi superfly hows you and family?
[18:14] <Golynx> Kilos haha i get too much windows time these days, not used Ubuntu in a while 
[18:15] <Kilos> i told you back then to write down the commands
[18:15] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:15] <Kilos> i wrote school books full
[18:17] <Golynx> i did wrote them, accidentally deleted wrong folder, wrote them again, Ubuntu broke had to reinstall , forgot to write again lol
[18:17] <Kilos> lol
[18:18] <Kilos> thats what ive just done
[18:18] <Kilos> zeroed the wrong drive
[18:19] <Kilos> if i disappear testdisk has just crashed me
[18:19] <Golynx> thats worse than mine
[18:20] <Golynx> hope you get it fixed though
[18:22] <Kilos> let me reboot
[18:22] <Kilos> hold thumbs
[18:25] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:26] <Kilos> so far nothing broken
[18:27] <Kilos> aw it didnt write my /storage/ back
[18:32] <Kilos> hi Tonberry 
[19:39] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight