[00:02] <ubuntu_> hi...new to this... and to linux
[00:02] <ubuntu_> anybody here?
[00:03] <k1l> ubuntu_: yep. a lot of users in here. :)
[00:03] <dsnyders> Hi ubuntu_, Do you have a question?
[00:03] <ubuntu_> yeah... how do i see what users are in?
[00:04] <dsnyders> ubuntu_: The who command will tell you who is logged in.
[00:05] <ubuntu_> thanks... just found another way, lol
[00:05] <ZZRMike> I just picked up a UHD display, and obviously the native resolution makes everything impossible to read. How do I change the dpi in KDE?
[00:05] <wachpwnski1> Anyone know how I can use a keyfile on a usb stick to unencrypt a full drive encryption on boot?
[00:05] <dsnyders> ubuntu_: What way was that?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: or use the 'last' command
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> ZZRMike: https://blogs.kde.org/2008/04/29/how-change-x11-dpi-under-kubuntu
[00:07] <ubuntu_> dsnyders: sorry.... checking this whole thing out...
[00:08] <ubuntu_> as I said... new to Linux... not very impressed...
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> ZZRMike: https://community.kde.org/KDE/High-dpi_issues
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: not impressed with what?
[00:10] <ubuntu_> with linux
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: in what way?
[00:10] <ubuntu_> fair enough, this is the ubuntu desktop, so...
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: same question still stands...
[00:11] <ubuntu_> filing system to atsrt with... confusing
[00:12] <ubuntu_> *to start with
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: well, outside of your docs and such, you shouldn't care as a user
[00:12] <CyL> Hi, in Xubuntu 14.04 I have the package python-tk installed, but trying to import tkinter from the interactive interpreter, yelds me an error saying python could'nt find any module named tkinter
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: the storage makes sense as the data falls jnto 4 distict categories
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: rather than Windows where anyfile can be put anywhere in the filesytem by users.  Total chaos
[00:13] <ubuntu_> Sorry, Action... don't know what type of users you are used to but I'm used to have full control of my machines and know exactly and quickly where whatever is...
[00:14] <ubuntu_> WEith this ubuntu thing, that's a challenge
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: but what are you doing outside of your documents?
[00:14] <ubuntu_> then again, new thing to me, so... not making any judgments
[00:14] <ubuntu_> what a hec do you think a compurter is for? documents only?
[00:15] <ubuntu_> lol
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: what are you doing on the system that means you need access outside of your home?
[00:15] <k1l> ubuntu_: well. you need to learn a lot if you want to "control" the whole system. linux is not windows. if you dont want to learn either stay at windows or reduce the demanding on controlling everything on the first day
[00:16] <it_> alguem portugues aqui
[00:16] <k1l> ubuntu_: ubuntu is used in a lot of different professional enviroments. its not just a fun toy.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> !pt | it_
[00:17] <ubuntu_> to start with, my home isn't usually where this places it, and to have to constantly get to type a dang command to have full admin rights to do whatever i need to do, isn't impressing at all... annoying at the least, scrappable to the worst
[00:17] <ubuntu_> lol
[00:17] <it_> #ubuntu/pt
[00:17] <ubuntu_> lol... just typed reply and apparently
[00:17] <ubuntu_> was too long
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: not really, replies can be lots of text
[00:18] <k1l> ubuntu_: if you constantly need root rights, what are you doing?
[00:18] <ubuntu_> yup... just noticed.... had to scroll up to see it
[00:18] <k1l> ubuntu_: even windows scratched that "you need to be admin all the time" nonsense.
[00:18] <it_> #ubuntu-pt
[00:18] <CyL> Hi, in Xubuntu 14.04 I have the package python-tk installed, but trying to import tkinter from the interactive interpreter, yelds me an error saying python could'nt find any module named tkinter
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: needing to type a command for admin rights means that rogue commands cannot run wild on your system. Unlike Windows where idiots log in as Administrators to do daily tasks and wonder why they get issues
[00:19] <CyL> it_: Digite /join #ubuntu-br na linha de entrada de texto
[00:19] <ubuntu_> yeah... but only if you don't bother getting rid off it... which is as easy nas sneezing lol
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: what users do needs user access, so why have more all the time? It makes no sense
[00:20] <ubuntu_> true
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: its a better user model
[00:20] <k1l> ubuntu_: ok, so do you have any actual support issue? else you could switch to #ubuntu-offtopic for general ramblings
[00:20] <ubuntu_> doesn't it, Action?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: doesnt what?
[00:20] <CyL> Hi, in Xubuntu 14.04 I have the package python-tk installed, but trying to import tkinter from the interactive interpreter, yelds me an error saying python could'nt find any module named tkinter
[00:20] <ubuntu_> Sounds a bit like denying the user the right to have full control of their machine
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: if you press TAB after you type 'action' it will autocomplete my nick
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: they do, they can be in the sudo group which gives them access to use sudo when power is needed
[00:21] <k1l> ubuntu_: no. its a big security milestone not to be admin all the time. but again: if there is no actual issue please put that chtichat into #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:22] <kostkon> CyL, probably you need python3-tk
[00:22] <CyL> kostkon: Why I would need it (althought it is installed as well)?
[00:22] <ubuntu_> k1l... sorry... new here... is that for me and Actionparsnip?
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_: you can even control what commands users can run with sudo, so even if they have sudo access you can restrict them tona subset of commands if you like
[00:23] <kostkon> CyL, are you in a python3 or python2.x interpreter?
[00:23] <k1l> ubuntu_: we try to keep this channel clear for actual support issues.
[00:23] <ubuntu_> oopss... got it... sorry k1l
[00:23] <CyL> kostkon: python 2, but it looks like the prblem was with me, I wasn't importing it correctly, sorry, just managed to get it done
[00:23] <splergy> complete noob here, how do i cd into the root directory? trying to move a .theme file to ~/.irssi/
[00:23] <ubuntu_> thanks for the chat... see u around guys...
[00:23] <kostkon> CyL, what was the problem?
[00:24] <ubuntu_> have fun :)
[00:24] <tewn> i have an external goflex seagate hard drive i am trying to get to boot to.  the mbr is installed to the right hard drive however when i boot it enters grub2 rescue mode and doesn't find the right blk_id
[00:24] <k1l> splergy: ~/ is not in root directory. its in your home
[00:24] <k1l> splergy: "~/.irssi" means "/home/user/.irssi"
[00:24] <CyL> kostkon: I see everywhere you should do "import tkinter" when in fact, for some reason, it should be "import Tkinter", maybe python change something
[00:24] <splergy> okay thanks for the help
[00:24] <splergy> just looked like a root symbol to me lol
[00:25] <dsnyders> splergy: Note - the . in front of irssi means the file is hidden from normal commands.
[00:25] <Viking667> I've got a question about keyboard mappings. I've got a normal(ish) keyboard, yet when I bring up the "Show me a picture of my keyboard mapping" I get what looks like a Microsoft Natural keyboard. I don't have one of those.
[00:25] <kostkon> CyL, according to this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7498658/importerror-when-importing-tkinter-in-python  you are correct
[00:25] <splergy> ah i was just gonna ask why i couldnt see it lol
[00:26] <Viking667> How do I get a picture of the normal layout instead of the Natural layout?
[00:26] <splergy> thanks
[00:26] <k1l> splergy: presss ctrl+h in filebrowser to see .folders and files
[00:26] <EriC^^> splergy: or ls -a if you're using a terminal
[00:27] <CyL> kostkon: Okay, thanks for your advice nevertheless
[00:27] <kostkon> CyL, np
[00:28] <Frank_Jameso> I may be using the wrong words when searching, is there any documentation on the services (i.e. sudo service ssh start), and how to turn processes into services?
[00:30] <splergy> thanks EriC^^
[00:31] <EriC^^> splergy: no problem :)
[00:39] <skinux> Is Thunderbird still the best E-Mail client?
[00:42] <bekks> skinux: Depends on your needs.
[00:45] <LemonSqueeze> is anyone here verse in clementine? I am having problems and error reports when trying to add remove thing from my ipod.... or is there another chat room i should hit up?
[00:48] <PCworker> On ubuntu 14.04, How do you uninstall a program that you installed using the terminal?
[00:49] <k1l> PCworker: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[00:49] <PCworker> k, gimme a minute....
[00:55] <PCworker> k11: it keeps telling me that it can't find package. This was a tar.bz2 file I downloaded.
[00:56] <k1l> PCworker: ok that is an info that is important.
[00:57] <k1l> PCworker: no it depends on what software that was and if there is a uninstall script available
[00:58] <PCworker> k11: ok. it came from the SecondLife Virtual Life website and it is used a their movie viewer. Let me look in the directory for some instruction.
[01:02] <NyanCat> Hi there, I want to install Ubuntu to a netbook. So far, it's the only distro with the right drivers included in the image to allow my HW to function correctly
[01:02] <NyanCat> I know there was UNR at one point, but do I just use the regular ubuntu 14.10 image now to install on a netbook/
[01:03] <k1l> NyanCat: UNR is deprecated long time now
[01:03] <enyc_> NyanCat: short answer yes, though are yo ufinding  14.04 LTS  doesn't work?
[01:03] <NyanCat> I'm not finding that it doesn't work
[01:03] <NyanCat> I'm just on the fence on what to install
[01:03] <NyanCat> lol
[01:04] <PCworker> Thanks k11, got it.
[01:04] <NyanCat> As best I can tell, the live environment works perfectly fine on the netbook
[01:04] <k1l> NyanCat: since netbooks are really low power with that atoms better see if lubuntu is ok for you
[01:04] <mtree> is it already on in Ubuntu? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1Mb3sBIgAAwQB8.png:large
[01:04] <enyc> given you say netbook... i would mention   Mint 17.1 is a good *variant* of ubuntu, less onerous interface options (MATE especially), though cinnamon is nice,     based upon 14.04 LTS but chaning out the default-frontend , basically....   as k1l says  lubuntu can work too
[01:05] <k1l> mtree: what do you mean?
[01:05] <NyanCat> I've tried mint before
[01:05] <enyc> NyanCat: well what are the uncertainties then?
[01:05] <NyanCat> enyc: Well, if there were any major uncertainties, I'd say you got them there
[01:05] <scriptThis> Any idea why $ diff -u foo.txt bar.txt  would just do nothing? (and both files are present in current dir)
[01:05] <k1l> enyc: mint doesnt help. and if you mention mint you could tell that you can run the same desktops on ubuntu, too
[01:05] <NyanCat> I'll look at lubuntu
[01:06] <mtree> k1l: these thumbnails for every single bookmark
[01:06] <k1l> mtree: that is chrome specific and not ubuntu specific
[01:06] <zteam> Hi how can I force e2fsck to check my filesystem at reboot?
[01:07] <k1l> mtree: google will change the bookmark stuff on their services. have a search for that. i bet there are plugins for that already
[01:07] <k1l> !fsck
[01:07] <k1l> zteam: ^
[01:07] <NyanCat> enyc, call me picky, but I don't actually like LXDE
[01:07] <NyanCat> I assume that's why it's called Lubuntu
[01:08] <NyanCat> because it features LXDE?
[01:08] <SchrodingersScat> !lubuntu
[01:08] <k1l> NyanCat: yes. but besides lxde it got some modifications for low end and old hardware
[01:08] <SchrodingersScat> yes
[01:09] <k1l> NyanCat: so what is your issue at all? because we cant help you on your taste  of which desktop you like the most :)
[01:09] <zteam> k1l, Thanks but I'm already familiar with sudo touch /forcefsck, but the problem with that one seems to be that it only scan the disc if the device flag is dirty?
[01:09] <enyc> NyanCat: MATE is gnome-2-derived and seems ok on what older hardware i've tried on ...   in short you colud add to cyou confusion in a few days' time with 17.1 MATE and Cinnamon varieties... Hey why not try XFCE too =))
[01:10] <enyc> NyanCat: ultimately if they all 'work for you' it may not really matter much
[01:10] <k1l> enyc: enough of the mint advertising. you can run both desktops on ubuntu too. so no need for mint at all.
[01:10] <zteam> k1l, I want to check it no matter what the dirty flag says
[01:10] <NyanCat> k1l, I don't have any issues
[01:10] <enyc> k1l: oh indeed, but not (so) easily from live cd, though you can do that do vith apt-get and stuffs.
[01:10] <NyanCat> I'm just looking for opinions
[01:11] <NyanCat> :)
[01:11] <NyanCat> sorry if I came off as "I have an issue"
[01:11] <enyc> NyanCat: well try coming up with some more clearly defined requirements/experiences =)
[01:11] <NyanCat> enyc: Can Ubuntu make my coffee
[01:11] <NyanCat> if not
[01:11] <NyanCat> Then I'm going to mother Debian
[01:12] <k1l> NyanCat: ubuntu ships all big desktops. you just need to choose one.
[01:12] <zteam> k1l, any more suggestions besides booting from a live-usb and perform the check there?
[01:12] <enyc> NyanCat: i've never got along so well with Debian Wheezy's gnome-3 version, but the MATE packages now in wheezy-backports work well!
[01:12] <k1l> zteam: if /forcecheck is not good enough go with a live cd and make manual checks
[01:12] <NyanCat> enyc: I'm just joking actually, Debian images don't have the driver for my wireless nic
[01:13] <NyanCat> And I don't have any opportunities for wired connection here
[01:13] <enyc> NyanCat: there are 'firmware' boot images somewhere that may work for you ...
[01:14] <NyanCat> I'm going to try unity
[01:14] <NyanCat> even though I hate the heck out of it
[01:14] <enyc> NyanCat:   http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.7.0/multi-arch/iso-cd/   maybe
[01:14] <enyc> NyanCat: good luck =)
[01:14] <enyc> NyanCat: why do you hate the heck out of it?
[01:14] <NyanCat> enyc: I'm more used to GNOME2
[01:15] <NyanCat> I didn't really like GNOME3
[01:15] <enyc> NyanCat: metoo, and MATE is the derivative of GNOME2 and quite good
[01:15] <zteam> k1l, :-/ I was afraid of that... seems a little bit lame thought.... even Windows can perform a "real disc check" (not only check the dirty flag) at system reboot
[01:15] <enyc> NyanCat: AIUI  ubuntu 14.10  now includes MATE, and  its' available as a PPA on ubuntu 14.04 ...
[01:15] <k1l> zteam: sorry, i dont get what issue you got with /forcefsck
[01:16] <NyanCat> enyc: Right-o
[01:16] <zteam> k1l,  not to be rude or so....
[01:16] <NyanCat> Well, I'm going to play around with normal Ubuntu
[01:16] <k1l> there is a mate ubuntu 14.04 image
[01:16] <enyc> NyanCat: so you can find the right metapackage and then install it' and use it as an opiton on the login screen
[01:16] <NyanCat> going to try just a regular install first to see how it behaves
[01:16] <NyanCat> if I have to, i'll look at specialties
[01:16] <NyanCat> :)
[01:18] <zteam> k1l, from what I know a /forcefsck only perform a quick scan (i.e check the dirty flag of the filesystem) if that flag is clean it just skips the filesystemcheck
[01:19] <k1l> zteam: says who?
[01:21] <NyanCat> enyc / k1l: Thanks for the assistance none the less
[01:22] <zteam> k1l, I colud be wrong on that part of course but on my system it doesn't even scan the discs for more than a few seconds, a "real filesystem check" usually takes much longer than that (at least from my experience)
[01:22] <jmadero> hi all - I keep getting a stale handle error for nfs transferred - guidance appreciated
[01:22] <jmadero> digging through forums has been utterly unhelpful
[01:24] <k1l> zteam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting  cant find any confirmation of your statement
[01:27] <NyanCat> enyc, I'll be back in a while, if you're still around I'll tell you how it worked out
[01:28] <NyanCat> Take care all, have a great evening!
[01:30] <Loshki> zteam: trying to fsck a root filesystem?
[01:32] <canada4663> hello - I am getting intermittent hangs on boot after upgrading to ubuntu 14.04
[01:33] <canada4663> it gets stuck at 'Starting enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices' each time - though that entry says 'OK'....
[01:33] <zteam> k1l, well, I don't have a source for my statement as I already said this is what I'm assuming because the system boots as quickly as normal
[01:34] <zteam> Loshki, well on my homefolder more precisly :-)
[01:35] <zteam> k1l, I didn't mean to offend you or something, but booting from a live-usb just to check the filesystem seems pretty "old"
[01:35] <Loshki> zteam: please pastebin the output from df -h
[01:37] <Loshki> zteam: booting from a live-usb to check a root filesystem is S.O.P. Sorry if it's not "new" enough.
[01:37] <zteam> Loshki, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9035050/
[01:37] <k1l> zteam: i dont get why you want to get a 1 hour waiting time just to convince you your fs is fine?
[01:37] <Loshki> So you wanna fsck this drive: /dev/sda2          63G    28G    32G  47% /home
[01:38] <Loshki> drive -> partition
[01:38] <k1l> well, if its about the non root partition you can unmount it and fsck it if you want
[01:38] <k1l> "just be to be sure"
[01:39] <Loshki> zteam: Oh yeah, why do you feel the need to fsck it manually?
[01:39] <Hydrogenum> just reinstalled, and can't figure out how to enable sloppy (mouse) focus.  Where's that config?
[01:40] <zteam> k1l because I believe the filesystem is damaged, and I had my computer shut down due to a power outage, and now it behaves somewhat strange
[01:40] <Hydrogenum> gconf-editor shows /apps/metacity/general/focus_mode=sloppy but that doesn't seem to help
[01:40] <k1l> zteam: ah ok. so that is the real issue here.
[01:40] <k1l> zteam: what do you mean by "somewhat strange"?
[01:40] <xofamore> very annoying that thunar has no built-in search.
[01:41] <reisio> xofamore: you can give it one, it's extensible
[01:41] <xofamore> how do i do that?
[01:41] <k1l> zteam: remember that the filesystem (that is what fsck checks) can be just fine, but that data on it is broken. so a fsck doesnt magically heal everything
[01:41] <reisio> xofamore: catfish works nicely
[01:41] <zteam> k1l, well for example my caps lock led doesn't work properly on my main account
[01:41] <Loshki> zteam: please elaborate on "somewhat strange". Meanwhile, do what k1l said, unmount and fsck the thing already.
[01:41] <xofamore> reisio, thanks. will take a look at that.
[01:42] <reisio> xofamore: http://marksnotebook.com/ubuntu/how-add-built-search-thunar-using-catfish
[01:44] <zteam> k1l, yup, that's true, but sometimes fsck and checkdisk can fix many issues :-)
[01:44] <Loshki> zteam: so is fsck running yet?
[01:44] <xofamore> reisio, awesome. thanks.
[01:45] <zteam> Loshki, you mean I can unmount my /home partition while running the fsck command?
[01:45] <Loshki> zteam: also, was it a clean power outage, or a lumpy, bumpy, spikey outage
[01:45] <morhad> ubuntu 14.4 have any method to switch kbd layout between 2 languages with one kbd combination and if I want to switch to 3rd language, for this case I will use anothe combination..?
[01:46] <zteam> Loshki, or are we talking about booting from the live-usb?
[01:47] <Loshki> zteam: you must unmount /home before you can run fsck on it. To do so, you probably need to login as root from a text console. This is one of those occasionans when it helps to have a root password, which is against the rules. This is why it's actually easier to use the live-usb...
[01:48] <zteam> Loshki, I get what you are saying man, I just can't belive there is no smoother way to check my discs :-)
[01:48] <k1l> no need for that
[01:49] <Loshki> k1l: go on...
[01:49] <k1l> just log out, then switch to tty, login as user, sudo -i for rootshell, unmount /Home, do checks, remount, logout, get to lightdm again, login
[01:50] <k1l> but i still think that all is just wasting time while the real issue is somewhere else.
[01:50] <zteam> Loshki, I mean why would you need a live-usb for checking the /root (or any essential filesystem for that matter)
[01:50] <Loshki> zteam: you pop in a disk, click three or four things, wait 5 minutes, and you have a fully functioning linux system. How much smoother does it get?
[01:51] <KEEm> EriC^^ ?
[01:51] <Loshki> k1l: "login as user" <-- won't this mount /home, so you can't fsck it?
[01:51] <Loshki> k1l: "login as user" <-- won't this mount /home, so you can't even unmount it?
[01:52] <k1l> should work
[01:52] <EriC^^> KEEm: hey, what's up
[01:52] <KEEm> hey Eric good to see you :)
[01:52] <Loshki> k1l: I disagree, won't work.
[01:52] <KEEm> eric^^: im using Test disk now
[01:52] <k1l> zteam: because you will break the journaling that way
[01:52] <EriC^^> KEEm: ok, cool
[01:53] <zteam> Loshi, not to complain but pretty much smoother, if you are running Windows for example chkdsk c: /R and it performs a full filesystem clean for you once you reboot
[01:53] <EriC^^> KEEm: anything come up in the quick search?
[01:53] <KEEm> eric^^: but it keeps adding more Estimated time to completion  time
[01:53] <EriC^^> KEEm: let it run for 30secs or so only
[01:53] <EriC^^> KEEm: then try the deep search if it doesn't find anything
[01:53] <KEEm> eric^^: listen i found the partition and some files on the drive
[01:54] <k1l> zteam: pretty smooth from linux not needing to defrag all the time :)
[01:54] <EriC^^> KEEm: ok, you want to recover the files only?
[01:54] <KEEm> i allreaddy did
[01:54] <KEEm> :D
[01:54] <Loshki> zteam: Except that your filesystems are clean, and I will be surprised if forcing an fsck finds anything. Please answer my question about the nature of the outage.
[01:54] <k1l> zteam: and again: we are still wasting time for a idea you didnt prove so far.
[01:54] <KEEm> but there are only 240 file recovered eric^^
[01:55] <zteam> Loshki, no need for any live-usb there, so in my opinion that is definetly smoother, I'm just a little bit surprised than Linux don't provide a similair way
[01:55] <k1l> zteam: it does!
[01:55] <Loshki> "I'll do anything to fix my filesystem except boot live-usb and run fsck". Is that where we are?
[01:56] <Hydrogenum> nm, figured it out
[01:56] <k1l> zteam: we are still at the point that you want to blame forcefsck for your issues but we  dont even know what the issue is.
[01:56] <EriC^^> KEEm: how many files were there?
[01:56] <KEEm> idk 600gb out of 1000
[01:57] <Loshki> k1l: please try your own recipe and report if you are able to unmount /home.
[01:57] <KEEm> eric^^:  ^
[01:57] <k1l> zteam: so either you go and fsck the partitions now or we dig into the issues and solve that. but wasting time saying windows is all better will not help you or us.
[01:57] <KEEm> so maybe 2000/5000 eric^^
[01:57] <EriC^^> KEEm: try the deep search maybe
[01:57] <zteam> Loshki, nope, where at "I'm just suprised that there doesn't seem to be a way to force a filesystem check at reboot"
[01:57] <k1l> Loshki: sorry, cant test it right now, since i am compiling and cant logout now
[01:57] <EriC^^> maybe it's not picking up the whole partition or something
[01:58] <k1l> zteam: [citation needed]
[01:58] <KEEm> ok  eric^^
[01:58] <dvsone> Hello
[01:58] <Loshki> zteam: I agree with k1l. In your place, I'd be worried about the hardware. I'd run a memtest overnight, then check the disk SMART data. Maybe try a different keyboard.
[01:58] <NyanCat> enyc: Hey there, just checking in... So far, so good!
[01:59] <k1l> Loshki: if you tested it and it doesnt work: ok, sorry for that.
[01:59] <zteam> k1l, well I could be wrong about it, and then I apologize,  but if /forcefsck is performing a full filesystem check how comes my system boot as fast as without /forcefsck then?
[02:00] <k1l> zteam: we are still on the "ifs". so please perform a fsck you think is checking enough and see if it reports any errors.
[02:00] <zteam> Loshki,, the keyboard is fine, and caps lock works very fine in the guest account for example
[02:01] <KEEm> eric^^: how sould i run a deep search, to find the partition or the file (< if so how)
[02:01] <k1l> zteam: what if it got a counter for idiotic forcefsck and just skips it? prove that ;p
[02:01] <EriC^^> KEEm: after quick search press enter
[02:01] <Loshki> k1l: No, but I've hunted down processes which have files open on mounted filesystems often enough that I know you can't unmount a partition you have open files on.
[02:02] <EriC^^> to stop it, then it should say deep search, highlight it and press enter
[02:02] <k1l> zteam: does dmesg or syslog report any issue? does .xsession-errors ?
[02:02] <KEEm> eric^^: after quick search for partition right?
[02:02] <canada4663> ?
[02:03] <Loshki> ztane: because your filesystem is marked clean, so fsck says "no need to check this". It's rarely wrong.
[02:03] <zteam> k1l, I dont know how many times I said it now I could be wrong but obviusly it has taken much more time, then I did run e2fsck from a live-usb before
[02:03] <k1l> Loshki: the desktop is stopped and the tty should not demand that much services. and when you sudo -i you get a rootshell anyway
[02:03] <janardan> #openstack
[02:03] <k1l> zteam: still running in circles here.
[02:03] <EriC^^> KEEm: yeah
[02:04] <Loshki> k1l: you do, but that rootshell is running inside a user shell, which almost invariably has files open on /home, preventing you from unmounting it.
[02:05] <zteam> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9035419/
[02:06] <zteam> k1l, well time to sleep for me anyway.... :-)
[02:06] <k1l> zteam: talking about the fat partition sdc1
[02:07] <zteam> k1l, yup, but that's just my usb-pendrive
[02:08] <zteam> k1l, I'm to tired to continue to investigaste the problem right now the clock is 03:08 AM here
[02:09] <k1l> that is not a fsck error at all.
[02:09] <KEEm> eric^^: after quick search for partition right
[02:09] <KEEm> eric^^: ups
[02:09] <EriC^^> KEEm: yes
[02:09] <KEEm> eric^^: deep searching now :)
[02:09] <EriC^^> KEEm: cool :)
[02:09] <zteam> k1l, nope, who said that?
[02:10] <zteam> :-)
[02:10] <KEEm> EriC^^ do you like psytrance?
[02:10] <Loshki> zteam: get some sleep. Battle to recommence tomorrow...
[02:11] <EriC^^> KEEm: i guess some songs
[02:12] <EriC^^> psy = psychedelic?
[02:13] <k1l> the error he gave is a typical error for 14.10 since not all services are fully switched to systemd. and the systemd stuff is complaining. but that should not make any difference to the system before the power cut
[02:13] <KEEm> eric^^ yeah i will send you an example, some i made my self :)
[02:13] <EriC^^> KEEm: ok, cool
[02:14] <KEEm> EriC^^: https://soundcloud.com/jonathanagerskov/palestine-psychedelic-trance
[02:15] <zteam> Loshki, yep, that's what I'm doing, but no Battle from my side :-)
[02:16] <Loshki> k1l: Isn't it about this? "FAT-fs (sdc1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck."
[02:16] <k1l> Loshki: he told he is aware of this and that is his pendrive.
[02:16] <EriC^^> KEEm: seems cool, the start reminded me a bit of trainspotting's soundtrack, choose life
[02:16] <KEEm> nice :D
[02:17] <KEEm> thanks :)
[02:17] <zteam> Loshki, nope that just a usb-pendrive, I don't have my /home folder there
[02:18] <zteam> but time to sleep, goodnight and thanks for your help Loshki and k1l  :-)
[02:18] <Loshki> zteam: k1l: well, doesn't change anything then :-). Goodnight.
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[02:23] <HFSPLUS> if swapiness is set to 0 does linux wait until the last resort to use swap space?
[02:23] <daftykins> heya
[02:24] <ubuntuaddicted> hey guys, i followed a guide to get transmageddon installed in xubuntu 14.04.1 but when I try to run it I see this error in the terminal: gi._glib.GError: transmageddon.ui: required gtk+ version 3.12, current version is 3.10
[02:24] <daftykins> aww .02 out!
[02:25] <reisio> gstreamer, pish
[02:26] <ubuntuaddicted> so is it possible to get GTK+3 in Xubuntu 14.04.1?
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuaddicted: how did you install it exactly? url of the guide?
[02:27] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-transmageddon-1-3-on-ubuntu-14-04-and-derivative-systems/
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuaddicted: did you instal that gstreamer also?
[02:28] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, of course. it's a problem with gtk+ 3.12
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuaddicted: maybe sudo apt-get clean and sudo apt-get install -f after
[02:34] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, why? that won't install gtk+ 3.12
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuaddicted: well if you need this version, why dont you install it then?
[02:35] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, doesn't look like it's available in xubuntu 14.04.1
[02:35] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, hence why i am here asking for help
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuaddicted: you added this ppa on your own risk mate, xubuntu 14.04.1 should be up to date on its packages
[02:37] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, xubuntu 14.04.1 is up to date, i'm not saying it's not. i'm asking if there's a safe way to upgrade gtk+ 3.12 installed in 14.04.1
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | ubuntuaddicted maybe this way?
[02:39] <JC_Yang> why useradd a new user account doesn't create the home for the user as well?
[02:39] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, you must not be understanding. gtk+ 3.12 isn't available in 14.04.1, it was released too late compared to when 14.04.1 was released.
[02:39] <JC_Yang> the man page states it should by default
[02:39] <ubuntuaddicted> JC_Yang, it should've, how did you create the new user?
[02:39] <geoffmcc> JC_Yang, if you want it to create home and set password, user adduser instead
[02:40] <k1l> JC_Yang: adduser is the ubuntu way
[02:40] <JC_Yang> I create that user in root, I sudo su before doing that operation
[02:41] <JC_Yang> but the man page of useradd claim it will....  weird...
[02:41] <sacarlson> JC_Yang: I have used useradd to make system accounts that have no home but I think I added something to do that
[02:42] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: no, it doesn't
[02:42] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: you have to use the -m option
[02:43] <geoffmcc> JC_Yang, you can use useradd to create the account, but you have to define everything such as home and password. adduser is a perl script that does all that for you and then sends it through useradd
[02:43] <geoffmcc> JC_Yang, not really do it for you, it will prompt you for the password and account details.
[02:44] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: and -r with userdel to delete the home dir and mail spool
[02:45] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: sudo useradd -m -g <groups,to,add,to> <username>
[02:45] <JC_Yang> I'm sorry I misread the man, thank u all
[02:45] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: then sudo passwd <username> to set the passwd, dont use space with the groups and ,
[02:47] <JC_Yang> the adduser is yet another interface?
[02:48] <Flannel> EriC^^, JC_Yang: Don't do that useradd command.
[02:48] <sacarlson> JC_Yang: ya that's the interface I used not useradd
[02:48] <EriC^^> Flannel: why not?
[02:48] <andreas> hi
[02:48] <Flannel> EriC^^, JC_Yang: To use useradd to add someone to groups, you NEED -a, otherwise you're /setting/ the groups, not adding to them.  A much safer interface is to use adduser ("adduser username group" will add username to group)
[02:49] <Sunstream> ALrighty I got a old HDD that used to be in a DVR but I cannot seem to be able to format it or do anything to it. How do I force a partition delete and redo on it?!
[02:49] <EriC^^> Flannel: i thought that was usermod -aG <groups>
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | Sunstream
[02:49] <Ben64> Sunstream: fdisk, parted, gparted, take your pick
[02:50] <EriC^^> Flannel: if you're creating the user, .. yeah just checked manpage useradd doesn't have a -a option
[02:50] <Sunstream> The problem is gparted does NOT show it, Disks does but no way to do a partition
[02:50] <Flannel> EriC^^: Mmm, you're right.  But useradd can't add multiple groups (-g specifies the initial login group, not a bunch of groups, it's -G that specifies the extra groups)
[02:50] <Ben64> Sunstream: how does it not show it? pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"
[02:50] <Flannel> EriC^^: I knew something seemed off, but usermod -g (sans -a) is quite common (and I wanted to speak up quickly before someone removed themselves from admin)
[02:52] <Sunstream> It shows the stuff for the internal and usb chip but not the SDC
[02:52] <EriC^^> Flannel: yeah, i understand
[02:52] <Flannel> JC_Yang: but still, the normal (user friendlier) interface is to use adduser (the useradd manpage even calls this out)
[02:53] <JC_Yang> thank u, pals
[02:53] <Sunstream> it shows sda and sdb but not sdc
[02:54] <dsnyders> Sunstream: What type of disk is it, and how is it connected?
[02:54] <Ben64> Sunstream: pastebin
[02:54] <Sunstream> Ben pastebin will NOT help
[02:54] <Ben64> ok, good luck then
[02:55] <Sunstream> it does not show sdc
[02:55] <Sunstream> itis hooked up with an external hdd usb adapter
[02:55] <Ben64> if you're not willing to do stuff, then maybe this channel is not for you
[02:55] <xpistos> Is it possible to mount a usb external drive as an NFS share?
[02:55] <Sunstream> Ben
[02:55] <asddasasdasd> If somebody has a little time to spare and want to really help me out, I would love for you to download the following file, extract it on your Ubuntu desktop and run the "nw" binary. For me, *nothing* happens. It's supposed to open up a GUI box. It does on the Windows version. Not with the Linux one (for me). http://dl.node-webkit.org/v0.11.0/node-webkit-v0.11.0-linux-x64.tar.gz
[02:55] <Sunstream> what good will it do if the problem is on sdc and the output has nothing about sdc at all not even an error
[02:56] <Ben64> asddasasdasd: sounds extremely sketchy
[02:56] <Sunstream> I thought my device went bad so I hooked up an working drive and that shows
[02:56] <asddasasdasd> Ben64: https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit
[02:56] <Sunstream> so
[02:56] <asddasasdasd> Ben64: It's linked to from there. Unaffiliated with me in any way.
[02:56] <Sunstream> I think this disk is encrypted or somsthing
[02:56] <Ben64> asddasasdasd: doesn't really make it any less sketchy
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: what kind of hd is this? IDE? brand?
[02:57] <asddasasdasd> Ben64: It's a major software project...
[02:57] <asddasasdasd> Do it in a VM if you must.
[02:57] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: Regardless, it's offtopic for this channel.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:57] <asddasasdasd> It's 100% on-topic.
[02:57] <asddasasdasd> This is about Ubuntu not working correctly.
[02:57] <Ben64> "download this file and run it" is not on topic really
[02:57] <bobbyyu> Do you folks know where I can get dependencies?
[02:57] <dsnyders> Sunstream: Does the usb adapter show up in lsusb?
[02:57] <asddasasdasd> I'm trying to figure out why it doesn't work.
[02:58] <Ben64> bobbyyu: depends which ones, explain what you're doing, any errors you're getting, etc
[02:58] <Sunstream> Hitachi HDD Z3K323225A7A380 type TT5SAB250
[02:58] <HappyNewYear13> i messed up my audio config. commands to install alsa and pulseaudio. i even lost my volume icon but i have sound.
[02:58] <Sunstream> No
[02:58] <k1l> asddasasdasd: made it +x ?
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: well, i never seen any hd that gparted cant see..you sure this hd is not broken?
[02:58] <HappyNewYear13> i messed up my audio config. commands to reinstall alsa and pulseaudio. i even lost my volume icon but i have sound.
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> !sound | HappyNewYear13
[02:58] <bobbyyu> An update of vlc-data and libvlc took out the VLC program itself.
[02:58] <asddasasdasd> k1l: "Type" column says "Program".
[02:59] <Sunstream> it maybe possible it is brokern
[02:59] <k1l> asddasasdasd: dosnt matter
[02:59] <k1l> asddasasdasd: you need to give it the executable bit with chmod
[02:59] <bobbyyu> When I tried to reinstall vlc, I see dependency errors.
[02:59] <Ben64> bobbyyu: pastebin those errors
[02:59] <bobbyyu> OK.
[02:59] <bobbyyu> Let me take a piss first.
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: you might wanna try a hd sector boot disc on the hd maybe
[02:59] <dsnyders> Sunstream: On my USB adapter, I find that it is easy to misalign the pins on the plug to the hard drive.  Can you double-check that?
[02:59] <Ben64> bobbyyu: not necessary to share with the channel
[03:00] <asddasasdasd> k1l: It is.
[03:00] <Sunstream> it is inpossible to do that with a SATA hdd
[03:00] <asddasasdasd> If run from the terminal: "./nw: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[03:00] <Sunstream> but I did disconnect and reconnect
[03:01] <k1l> asddasasdasd: sudo apt-get install libudev0:i386
[03:01] <dsnyders> Sunstream: Is the drive getting enough power?
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: you said the disk tool sees your hd? did you try a SMART test?
[03:01] <asddasasdasd> k1l: I cannot tell users to run such commands...
[03:01] <asddasasdasd> It must work with what is shipped.
[03:01] <Sunstream> Ben http://paste.ubuntu.com/9035958/
[03:02] <Sunstream> Smart does not see it
[03:02] <Sunstream> now I plugged in a working drive
[03:02] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: Then you need to find software that doesn't depend on a shared library that isn't installed by default.
[03:02] <asddasasdasd> k1l: "Package libudev0:i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[03:02] <bobbyyu> Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9035960/
[03:02] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: What version of ubuntu are you on?
[03:02] <asddasasdasd> Flannel: Hmm. I guess I can ship that file.
[03:03] <k1l> asddasasdasd: ah its dropped from 14.04 even
[03:03] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: That's... not how this works.
[03:03] <asddasasdasd> Flannel: ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[03:03] <canada4663> Hello - I just upgraded to ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and my boot is hanging at "Starting enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices" - any idea what this is?
[03:03] <asddasasdasd> What do you mean by "it's dropped from 14.04 even"?
[03:03] <k1l> asddasasdasd: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/288821/how-do-i-resolve-a-cannot-open-shared-object-file-libudev-so-0-error
[03:03] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: 14.04 has libudev1 not libudev0, so ... even less off base.  You'll need to find the version of that webkit thing that works with 14.04 libraries (should be easier)
[03:03] <asddasasdasd> They recently made some sort of change?
[03:03] <Sunstream> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9035972/ <--- with the working drive so I know that the device I am using for the drives work
[03:04] <HappyNewYear13> lotuspsychje, THANK U
[03:04] <k1l> asddasasdasd: its libudev1 since 14.04
[03:04] <xpistos> Does anyone know Is it possible to mount a usb external drive as an NFS share?
[03:04] <Sunstream> so I think this HDD is either encrypted or will not work with my Startech HDD to USB adapter
[03:05] <sacarlson> canada4663: I'm guessing you have an encrypted /home/user ?
[03:05] <dsnyders> Sunstream: was the drive working in the DVR?
[03:05] <reisio> xpistos: sure
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: would be interesting to plug your drive in an external case
[03:05] <bobbyyu> Ben64: I am trying right now on being able to install vlc-nox
[03:05] <Sunstream> Yep
[03:05] <canada4663> sacarlson: yes, I think I do.
[03:05] <Ben64> bobbyyu: pastebin "apt-cache policy vlc vlc-nox libavcodec55 libavcodec-extra-55 libavutil53 libavformat55 libgles1-mesa libgles1 libvncclient0"
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: might be your hd to usb adapter then
[03:05] <Sunstream> so I assume it is either encrypted or made to ONLY
[03:05] <dsnyders> Sunstream: I suspect the USB adapter is not providing enough power to the hard drive.
[03:05] <xpistos> reisio: Can you tell me how it needs to be setup? My internal drives are responding fine, but the usb share is not
[03:06] <Sunstream> I dont think so lotuspsychje, all my other drives work fine
[03:06] <canada4663> sacarlson: oddly, about 30% of the time the boot goes all the way through
[03:06] <sacarlson> canada4663: do you have another sudo account that's not encrypted so you might fix it?
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: even if the drive got endryption, gparted should be able to re-format it
[03:06] <asddasasdasd> k1l: So... is this error by Ubuntu, the node-webkit project or somebody else?
[03:06] <Sunstream> I have 2 full size and one laptop
[03:06] <Ben64> asddasasdasd: none of the above
[03:06] <sacarlson> canada4663: oh it's intermitent?
[03:06] <asddasasdasd> Whose fault is it?
[03:06] <bobbyyu> Pastebin? I don't understand? Copy that to the terminal?
[03:06] <k1l> asddasasdasd: its the node webkit demanding old files
[03:06] <canada4663> sacarlson: yes...
[03:06] <asddasasdasd> And more importantly: how do I actually fix it?
[03:06] <Sunstream> this is a 5V 700mA Hdd like my other laptop hdd and that laptop hdd works fine
[03:07] <Sunstream> I think maybe this drive is special
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: im more into following dsnyders
[03:07] <k1l> asddasasdasd: see the link i posted
[03:07] <asddasasdasd> I saw it.
[03:07] <usr13> !paste | bobbyyu
[03:07] <asddasasdasd> There was no solution in there.
[03:07] <k1l> asddasasdasd: there were a lot of solutions
[03:07] <asddasasdasd> The "solution" spoke of somehow getting an old version in an undisclosed manner.
[03:07] <Ben64> bobbyyu: same way you pasted the stuff before
[03:07] <sacarlson> canada4663: do you have  autologin set?
[03:07] <k1l> asddasasdasd: you just need to read and not only scan for commands to copy&paste
[03:08] <asddasasdasd> Like always on Stack Exchange, there are lots of replies but rarely if ever any real solutions.
[03:08] <JC_Yang> q
[03:08] <bobbyyu> Paste the output, right?
[03:08] <canada4663> sacarlson: I don't think I have autologin set, but I'm wondering if I have a service that is running in my name (i.e. dropbox)
[03:08] <bobbyyu> Paste the output of that command?
[03:08] <Ben64> bobbyyu: on paste.ubuntu.com yes
[03:09] <asddasasdasd> Okay. Got it working, but that was one ugly solution.
[03:09] <sacarlson> canada4663: oh ya maybe at boot before login something tries to access you /home and can't yet
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: checkout the ##hardware channel for other ideas to test your hd
[03:09] <bobbyyu> OK, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9035993/
[03:09] <asddasasdasd> I really hope users won't have to deal with such commands.
[03:09] <sacarlson> canada4663: sounds like a race condition that some how sometimes passes
[03:09] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: That's what happens when you try to use software that's been compiled for different versions of things than your OS has.
[03:09] <xpistos> here is my /etc/exports on the server and /etc/fstab on the local
[03:09] <xpistos> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9035994/
[03:09] <canada4663> sacarlson: Hmmm - odd.  any pointers for what to look for?
[03:10] <Ben64> bobbyyu: as i thought. you have PPAs enabled, those are not supported here and are causing your current dependency problems
[03:10] <JC_Yang> weird, when I try "adduser username groupname"  it says The user 'username' does not exist
[03:10] <bobbyyu> OK. Sorry.
[03:11] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: are you using any special characters in <username> ?
[03:11] <Harv_> Hi
[03:11] <JC_Yang> upper case is forbidden?
[03:11] <Flannel> JC_Yang: yes, first just "adduser username" that will add the user.  "adduser user group" adds a user to a group (not "adds a user")
[03:11] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: nevermind, yeah what Flannel said.
[03:11] <Flannel> JC_Yang: uppercase isn't forbidden (but unconventional)
[03:12] <Harv_> Hey anyone willing to help me with a post installion problem?
[03:12] <Sunstream> Nahh I am not worrried about this stupid drive enough
[03:12] <dsnyders> Sunstream: If the drive is working in the DVR, but cannot be seen when plugged into the USB dongle, and the USB dongle works (as evidenced by the other drive), then there is an incompatibility between the USB dongle and the DVR drive  (In my experience it's usually power). Try finding another way of connecting it other than the USB dongle.
[03:12] <JC_Yang> how about a user name need separator between words?
[03:12] <Sunstream> I got 2.160 TB of space on 3 other drives that do work
[03:13] <Sunstream> dsnyders, That could be
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> !details | Harv_
[03:13] <Harv_> Anyone?
[03:13] <EriC^^> JC_Yang: i don't think adduser will let you add a username with a "." using a separator seems like a bad idea.
[03:14] <asddasasdasd> Flannel: It's the 64-bit Linux files of node-webkit, which we use to package our actual application. I do not control the files they include there.
[03:14] <asddasasdasd> Flannel: So basically, I just hope that this won't mean that every Linux user will have to type in commands and shit.
[03:14] <Sunstream> JC_Yang, why do you want to use a user name with a "." in it?
[03:15] <Flannel> asddasasdasd: You should probably spend some time to learn more about how linux libraries are packaged and work, because you sound like you're not really understanding what you're doing, and I fear it'll lead to problems for you in the long run.
[03:15] <JC_Yang> I don't use dot as separator, how about underscore or hypen?
[03:15] <Sunstream> so user_name/user-name?
[03:15] <Sunstream> never seen anyone do that
[03:16] <Sunstream> but it is your system
[03:16] <Harv_> Okay after I installed Ubuntu what it was a Windows Exp, the machine specs are a Petuim 4 CPU @ 2.3Ghz with 1GB of RAM and I installed the 32 bits version of Ubuntu on it. After installion the GUI screen is totallly messed up. HOw do I fix this?
[03:17] <chaotix> hi.  i have a dell optiplex desktop computer with intel core 2 duo 6400 2.13 gzh, 1gb ram, not sure the graphics but here is the hardinfo report:  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61702610/hardinfo_report.html     ...anyways, currently it runs on xubuntu 12.04 and it seems to do pretty good, i am going to upgrade tonight or tomorrow, and i was wondering what kind of performance i could expect if i decided to go with ubuntu u
[03:17] <chaotix> nity instead of xfce?
[03:17] <asddasasdasd> Question: why is there a floppy disk icon on the default Ubuntu desktop in the menu?
[03:17] <bubbasaures> Harv_, This at boot and you never get to a login?
[03:17] <Sunstream> well
[03:18] <usr13> asddasasdasd: It is probably for a usb device or card reader.  Right?
[03:18] <Sunstream> JC_Yang, it seems _ may be a BAD idea too
[03:18] <asddasasdasd> usr13: It's literally a floppy disk.
[03:18] <asddasasdasd> It's even mentioned by name.
[03:18] <asddasasdasd> Default desktop view. Latest Ubuntu.
[03:18] <Harv_> The best details I could give that the GUI is doubled on the login page and cut in half so there are a login screen on the top left and the bottom left and on the right side it is completely gray and the whole screen is blanking every few secounds.
[03:19] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Does this computer have a floppy disk?
[03:19] <bubbasaures> Harv_, What does this mean exactly "I installed Ubuntu what it was a Windows Exp"
[03:19] <asddasasdasd> usr13: No. It's a VM.
[03:19] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Paste a screenshot, let's see what it looks like.
[03:20] <asddasasdasd> Maybe it virtually has, and that's why Ubuntu adds that icon?
[03:20] <k1l> asddasasdasd: yes, possible
[03:20] <usr13> asddasasdasd: http://imgur.com/
[03:20] <asddasasdasd> http://i.imgur.com/1CbF2Ye.png
[03:21] <Sunstream> Okay just one thing about "Unity" is pretty
[03:21] <Harv_> I installed Ubuntu to replace Windows Exp.
[03:21] <JC_Yang> but the traditional naming convention makes names with multiple parts/words difficult to read/recognize...
[03:21] <asddasasdasd> Harv_: What is Windows Exp.?
[03:21] <Harv_> via USB
[03:21] <usr13> asddasasdasd: So you have ubuntu running as a client OS in virtualbox?
[03:21] <asddasasdasd> usr13: Yes?
[03:21] <asddasasdasd> Well, VMware Player.
[03:22] <Harv_> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: did you install ubuntu with internet enabled?
[03:22] <asddasasdasd> Because VirtualBox turned out to be too awful.
[03:22] <Harv_> It's was that.
[03:22] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Ok.  Well, I don't know.  That's interesting.
[03:22] <asddasasdasd> Harv_: It's "XP". Not "Exp.".
[03:22] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Why was VirtaulBox too awful?
[03:22] <Sunstream> Another thing about it, its pretty.... pretty slow on many systems. UNLESS you have a decent system which you may, it is very very slow compared to xubuntu
[03:22] <Harv_> No because I don't have enough ports to put the USB for wireless interent connection.
[03:22] <bubbasaures> !nomodeset | Harv_ Try this boot
[03:23] <asddasasdasd> usr13: Countless reasons, ranging from no "drag and drop" file transfers between desktops to pure performance.
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: wich ubuntu version did you try?
[03:23] <asddasasdasd> usr13: Many things resulted in black screens or flickering, etc.
[03:23] <JC_Yang> I am a vbox user for pretty long time, it's ok overall
[03:23] <Sunstream> I do not recommend the use of it UNLESS you have 2GB of ram and a decent video card
[03:23] <xpistos> So does anyone know how to mount a external USB drive as an NFS Share?
[03:23] <asddasasdasd> You can tell that VirtualBox is open source and that VMware Player (while annoying crippleware) is not.
[03:23] <Harv_> 14.04 32 bits
[03:23] <usr13> asddasasdasd: What is the host OS?
[03:23] <asddasasdasd> Windows.
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> !nfs | xpistos
[03:24] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Win7?  Win8?  or...?
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: its really recommended to install ubuntu with internet enabled (like cable) and enable updates during setup
[03:24] <asddasasdasd> usr13: 8.1 Update 1. Why is this so important?
[03:24] <xpistos> lotuspsychje: I have several NFS setup but I cannot get the external USB to be recognized in my local server
[03:25] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Ok.  Well, you are upside down in my opinion.  Win8 is quite a resource hog.
[03:25] <usr13> asddasasdasd: Linux is a MUCH more efficient operating system.
[03:25] <asddasasdasd> Has not been true at all in my experience.
[03:25] <NotANick> both windows 8 and linux are light in my opinion
[03:26] <asddasasdasd> Nobody uses Windows because it's the ultimate OS and so nice. We use it because there is no alternative for the tasks we use it for.
[03:26] <zykotick9> xpistos: if the USB is setup with fstab, and mounts normally.  NFS should have no problem with it...
[03:26] <asddasasdasd> And no, that's not gaming or "spreadsheets".
[03:26] <usr13> NotANick: Really, win8?  Can you install it on a 1.2GHz with 1G ram?
[03:26] <usr13> asddasasdasd: That was for you too...
[03:26] <NotANick> usr13: compared to linux of what?
[03:26] <usr13> any flavor
[03:27] <zykotick9> usr13: why feed?
[03:27] <xpistos> zykotick9: It is being seen as and mounted correctly using fstab on reboot
[03:27] <asddasasdasd> Again and again, the "open source" mindset fails to provide the necessary "polish" for many kinds of tasks. It's just how it is. Nothing can (easily) be done about that.
[03:27] <NotANick> to complete that, yes i have a win7 with that machine
[03:27] <usr13> zykotick9: Good point...
[03:27] <xpistos> zykotick9: but no luck with the NFS
[03:27] <Flannel> Guys, take the windows vs *nix vs * discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[03:27] <NotANick> i have had XFCE too
[03:27] <NotANick> both have been slow
[03:27] <usr13> Flannel: Ok
[03:27] <Harv_> I could try connecting the laptop with the ethernet cable, do you really think that will fix the GUI problem thoguh?
[03:27] <ubuntuaddicted> weird, normally my webcam mic shows up in audacity but it's not now. can anyone help please? it's a usb webcam
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: that might do magic yes
[03:28] <Sunstream> ahem
[03:28] <Sunstream> Thank you everyone I thought maybe there was a way to get this hdd to work no worries
[03:28] <zykotick9> xpistos: NFS should be able to export anything that the kernel/system sees
[03:28] <Harv_> But how do I reinstall just reboot the flash again?
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: i would surely reinstall fresh with cable on and updates during setup
[03:29] <EriC^^> ubuntuaddicted: is the module loaded? lsmod | grep uvcvideo
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: yes, retry your usb and wipe whole hd again
[03:29] <dsnyders> Sunstream: next time you have your machine open, pop it in on a spare SATA connection.  and good luck.
[03:29] <Harv_> Okay but since it's already installed do I put the USB in+connect ethernet, then reboot from the USB?
[03:29] <ubuntuaddicted> EriC^^, yes, i can see the mic moving in pavucontrol
[03:29] <Sunstream> i am building a system and in that frankecomputer I will try it there
[03:30] <xpistos> zykotick9: I am rebooting my server and laptop and will check it, but there must be something more to using the USB through NFS
[03:30] <EriC^^> ubuntuaddicted: ah sorry i misread
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: setup will see if your connected to cable or not
[03:30] <Harv_> Okay I will try that now.
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> Harv_: just reboot and reinstall
[03:30] <zykotick9> xpistos: USB should make zero difference...
[03:30] <Sunstream> .
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> xpistos: maybe this is relevant? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2106939
[03:31] <Sunstream> it will have 2 TB of HDDs in it and a 250G B SSD (primary system drive)
[03:31] <ubuntuaddicted> it's weird, it's like audacity isn't see the usb webcam mic at all. it doesn't show up under devices
[03:31] <EriC^^> ubuntuaddicted: maybe something else is using it or something?
[03:31] <Sunstream> thanks
[03:31] <xpistos> lotuspsychje: checking
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> what ssd brand you got?
[03:31] <djapo> are there any chat applications installed with the default ubuntu install?
[03:31] <djapo> like irc?
[03:32] <eric> pidgin
[03:32] <usr13> djapo: Yea, but I like irssi
[03:32] <djapo> is that installled by default?
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> djapo: xchat is nice to install
[03:32] <zykotick9> djapo: pidgin is an IM client, makes a poor IRC client IMO - xchat for gui, or irssi for cli.
[03:33] <ubuntuaddicted> EriC^^, negative. nothing else is running that would grab the mic. and it's not muted in alsamixer.
[03:34] <Sunstream> I haven't yet but likely a curcial
[03:34] <EriC^^> ubuntuaddicted: does arecord work? open a terminal and type arecord ~/bla
[03:34] <xpistos> just keeps telling me mount.nfs: Network is unreachable
[03:35] <Bashing-om> djapo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1010780 ; irssi install and initial set up.
[03:35] <xpistos> but my 3 other shares are fine
[03:36] <ubuntuaddicted> EriC^^, it returned this in the terminal Recording WAVE '/home/ubu/bla' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
[03:36] <ubuntuaddicted>    but if i play back the file in vlc there's no audio
[03:36] <Sunstream> I will go with a top of the line SSD so I can have the most reliable
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream: checkout ##linux-ssd for ssd tweaks etc
[03:36] <zykotick9> xpistos: if the usb is fat/ntfs then that "might" have permission issues involved
[03:37] <xpistos> zykotick9: lert me check that
[03:37] <EriC^^> ubuntuaddicted: i guess it's to do with the whole system then
[03:37] <usr13> xpistos: What exactly are you mounting?  (Or trying to mount.)
[03:38] <xpistos> usr13: it is a usb drive (ntfs formated) with christmas movies on it.
[03:38] <ubuntuaddicted> EriC^^, other software records my mic just fine. the other software uses pulse though. here's what arecord --list-devices returns: http://pastebin.com/JGg9Vb4z
[03:38] <usr13> xpistos: You say that, you "cant get the external USB to be recognized in my local server"?
[03:39] <metrix> I want to backup a server via LVM snapshots to a NAS.  What options do I have for bullet proof LVM backups?
[03:39] <usr13> xpistos: sudo fdisk -l  #Do you see it in that list?
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> metrix: also check the #ubuntu-server guys
[03:40] <metrix> OK will do
[03:40] <Sunstream> I will thanks
[03:43] <xpistos> I changes permissions to 777 and still nothing
[03:44] <usr13> xpistos: You changed permissions on what?
[03:44] <djapo> ok, i have irssi. but i was wondering if there are any default installed irc chat clients in ubuntu also do any of them have debug in the bottom?
[03:44] <xpistos> on the NFS share
[03:44] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone help with audacity?
[03:44] <xpistos> the mount on the server
[03:45] <usr13> xpistos: I thought you were trying to mount a USB drive.
[03:45] <xpistos> The usb drive is mounted on a server
[03:45] <usr13> xpistos: So what exactly did you change permissions on?
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> !ask | ubuntuaddicted
[03:46] <xpistos> 777
[03:46] <usr13> xpistos: Where?
[03:46] <xpistos> on the server where I have the usb drive mounted
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> djapo: why do you want it to be default?
[03:47] <usr13> xpistos: You changed permissions on the mount point?
[03:47] <xpistos> yes
[03:47] <usr13> xpistos: I don't think that will do any good.
[03:47] <usr13> xpistos: What is the mount point?
[03:48] <usr13> xpistos: Full path...
[03:48] <xpistos> the drive is mounted to /mnt/XMAS
[03:48] <usr13> xpistos: pastebin your /etc/exports file.
[03:48] <xpistos> sudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/XMAS/
[03:48] <djapo> lotuspsychje: not default, i meant are there any irc clients installed in the ubuntu iso?
[03:49] <djapo> and do any of the have the words debug near the bottom?
[03:49] <ubuntuaddicted> lotuspsychje, i asked my question already. it's weird, normally my webcam mic shows up in audacity but it's not now. can anyone help please? it's a usb webcam
[03:49] <xpistos> /mnt/XMAS/Movies/	192.168.1.75(async,insecure,no_subtree_check,rw,nohide)
[03:50] <usr13> xpistos: ls /mnt/XMAS/Movies/  #Do you see the files?
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> djapo: you can add your setup cdrom to software sources to see whats inside the Iso
[03:50] <xpistos> if I ssh to the server and go to /mnt/Xmas/Movies yes, I see the files
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> djapo: its possible to install packages from there offline, not sure if it holds any irc clients
[03:51] <usr13> xpistos: Can you ping 192.168.1.75 ?  (From the server..)
[03:51] <xpistos> yes
[03:51] <usr13> xpistos: So the client is *still* 192.168.1.75 ?
[03:51] <xpistos> yues
[03:51] <xpistos> yes
[03:52] <usr13> xpistos: So let's see 192.168.1.75's fstab entry for it.
[03:52] <xpistos> 192.168.100:/mnt/XMAS/Movies/ /home/x/Videos/Christmas/Movies	nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0
[03:52] <usr13> xpistos: correct the IP address
[03:53] <xpistos> oh my god
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> djapo: not sure whats your end goal is exactly? what do you want to achieve?
[03:53] <usr13> xpistos: :)
[03:54] <xpistos> usr13: OMFG! I can't believe I didn't see that
[03:55] <xpistos> usr13: Thank you!
[03:55] <usr13> xpistos: NP.  (Gee, I've never made an obvious mistake like that.... *NOT*>>>)
[03:57] <djapo> lotuspsychje: i just want to know if there any chat applications or programs with debug at the bottom?
[03:58] <djapo> or what use would debug have in an application like that?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> djapo: its possible to debug xchat..checkout other channels for irc client support
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> djapo: #xchat #irssi
[03:59] <nOTewARe2> is there an option like proxpn for ubuntu?
[04:01] <djapo> is xchat installed in ubuntu?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> djapo: not by default, sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> nOTewARe2: maybe the #openvpn guys might know a workaround for proxpn
[04:05] <nOTewARe2> lotuspsychje: thanks for that. I will check it out.
[04:32] <duckgoose> hi
[04:33] <duckgoose> why is it when I type "sudo rm -rf /" my computer freezes
[04:34] <allen> hey folks, can anyone help out with a gimp issue, worked great yesterday, but today i can't it to start up, no splash screen, no errors. it just doesn't load. I have removed it and re-installed with no luck. any ideas please ?
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> allen: try gimp from terminal for errors
[04:41] <bubbasaures> allen, You can go as far as deleting .gimp in home, it will rebuild
[04:42] <allen> thanks guys, i think i got it....i deleted the theme i was using and a whole bunch of gimp windows popped open
[04:43] <allen> i've been using PS in  Wine, but i'm trying really hard to go all Linux, was messing around last night trying to get Gimp to function like PS as much as i could, i knew it had to be something i messed up, but wasn't sure where to look.
[04:43] <allen> thanks for responding tho, i appreciate it.
[04:44] <bubbasaures> gotta burn some calories some way
[04:46] <allen> i've been on linux almost a year, about 6 months now with Ubuntu and i love it. but i am having a hard time getting used to the photo editors, 10+ years with PS its hard to switch
[04:48] <asddasasdasd> I just checked, and my VM doesn't seem to have any floppy disk drive. So why does Ubuntu show a floppy disk icon for me? Are you sure that the rest of you don't have this?
[04:48] <asddasasdasd> This is really fascinating to me.
[04:48] <asddasasdasd> An OS in 2014 (maybe) by default showing a floppy disk icon.
[04:49] <asddasasdasd> On the default menu on the first screen.
[04:49] <knightshade2> allen: do you know about the single window mode for gimp? makes it look more like PS.
[04:49] <timaaarrreee> allen: I feel your pain gimp is a complete UX/design fail and needs to be forked, scraped or re-written for this century.
[04:49] <allen> knightshade2, yes i do thanks. love it
[04:50] <allen> if anyone has something thats better than gimp i'd be interested in hearing about it,
[04:51] <timaaarrreee> DarkTable is promising for raw image processing for photography.
[04:52] <allen> timaaarrreee, i have Corel aftershot its pretty decent.
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> allen: you can also try playonlinux for installing other photo software
[04:54] <allen> lotuspsychje, yeah i'm running PS in Wine now, but i'm trying to go all native linux if i can
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> allen: good choice :p
[04:55] <allen> i mean my games i won't be able to, but i'd like my software to be if i can
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> timaaarrreee: that darktable site looks nice
[04:56] <allen> i really enjoy linux, the flexibility, my desktop is probably not the same as the next guys, it is custom to me and i like that. i like the lack of headaches, the lack of windows glitches.  i deal with them all day at work, it is almost a joy to come home to my laptop with Ubuntu lol
[04:57] <allen> my problem right now tho is, i know enough to be dangerous and not so much how to get myself out of it.
[05:05] <rypervenche> allen: Just always be sure that you know what you're running before you actually run it.
[05:05] <rypervenche> allen: I.e., don't blindly follow guides or run commands that someone on the net/IRC tells you to run.
[05:06] <allen> rypervenche, yes i learned that early on.
[05:07] <rypervenche> allen: And always make backups :)
[05:10] <allen> rypervenche, i always have stuff backed up, i could reload almost any day and not lose anything of importance
[05:14] <asddasasdasd> Even Photoshop itself has major usability issues. If you place the free "alternatives" next to it, though, it's like night and day.
[05:32] <TurdLicker> Hi
[05:35] <TurdLicker> Anyone on?
[05:36] <basil1x> Yes.  i hesitate to ask, but here goes.  TurdLicker?  Really?
[05:38] <basil1x> Must be a trollbot.  First saw one yesterday.  What a stupid invention.
[05:39] <TurdLicker> Lil
[05:40] <TurdLicker> Lol.. I'm just being goofy
[05:41] <basil1x> Better.  What's the issue, GoldenAngle
[05:41] <GoldenAngle> No specific issues
[05:42] <GoldenAngle> I just like to see what's up here
[05:42] <basil1x> Everyone's asleep.  Americans, you know.
[05:43] <GoldenAngle> Bummer. . I don't sleep much
[05:43] <basil1x> Nor I.  So I sit at computer, waiting for interesting things to happen.
[05:43] <beltorak> how do i run a 32 bit application on a 64 bit ubuntu? i have this program I am carrying over from my last machine (same ubuntu version); do I just install libc6:i386?
[05:44] <basil1x> Try that first, beltorak
[05:44] <basil1x> but don't let it uninstall anything you can't live without.
[05:45] <GoldenAngle> Basilx are you involved in IT?
[05:46] <basil1x> Not any more than I can't avoid, GoldenAngle
[05:47] <GoldenAngle> Primary occupation?
[05:47] <basil1x> Baking
[05:47] <basil1x> I had other jobs before, but I like the outcome of baking much better.
[05:48] <GoldenAngle> Wow.. cool
[05:48] <basil1x> People are happy when I show them the results now, too.
[05:50] <mehdi_> anybody know where can i find Yosemite icons for ubuntu?
[05:52] <OerHeks> mehdi_, maybe on a osX dvd?
[05:52] <basil1x> There's OSX4LIN
[05:52] <basil1x> sec
[05:53] <OerHeks> mehdi they are on deviantart... were ..http://elatik-p.deviantart.com/art/Yosemite-0-1-icons-for-ubuntu-14-04-481655058
[05:53] <mehdi_> OerHeks, i download ye package around 100MB yesterday but i donno how to apply them on my ubuntu the folders content  are different than my /usr/share/icons
[05:54] <OerHeks> mehdi_, oh, first you ars where, now you say you have downloaded them
[05:54] <cmdshftn> aaaaand deviant art appears down; good job
[05:54] <OerHeks> ask*
[05:55] <OerHeks> mehdi before i go googl ehowto do that, what is your real question ?
[05:55] <basil1x> mehdi, http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac4lin/?source=directory
[05:55] <OerHeks> ,,, just checking
[05:56] <mehdi_> OerHeks, i only need to have Yosemite icons applied,
[05:58] <OerHeks> mehdi sure they include a howto?
[06:00] <mehdi_> OerHeks, what include how to?
[06:01] <OerHeks> mehdi_, whatever package you downloaded?
[06:02] <mehdi_> OerHeks, they are bunch of .icns file and also there __MACOSX folder
[06:05] <vegombrei> hi is there a media server besides plex for ubuntu so i could stream to ps3
[06:09] <OerHeks> vegombrei, there was a ps3 mediaserver, but that project is dead
[06:09] <OerHeks> *unless you are on 12.04 precise
[06:13] <mehdi_> OerHeks, do u have the Yellowstone theme?
[06:14] <OerHeks> mehdi_, no, i don't care about themes myself.
[06:14] <OerHeks> mehdi_, if that package has no howto, nor the files are .png we cannot help.
[06:14] <mehdi_> :(
[06:16] <basil1x> Use the ones in the package I linked.  There's a nifty assistance doc, too. ;)
[06:16] <Guest29628> How do I stop an upstart service?
[06:18] <Bushmaster> hi, does ubuntu only has this unity desktop, is it not possible to choose any other desktop? Unity is kind of awkward cos all the software i downloaded kind of squizzed in the left hand scroll bar, and sometime it just too hard to scroll them cos it jump back and forth
[06:18] <Ben64> Guest29628: sudo service <foo> stop
[06:18] <daftykins> ubuntu / kubuntu/ xubuntu / lubuntu each offer a different one, Bushmaster
[06:18] <Guest29628> Ben64: it doesnt work
[06:18] <Guest29628> wait
[06:18] <Ben64> Bushmaster: you can install many different ones on ubuntu
[06:18] <bazhang> !notunity | Bushmaster
[06:18] <basil1x> Bushmaster, 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' will install KDE
[06:19] <Ben64> kubuntu-desktop will install the whole kubuntu desktop though, including redundant text editors and stuff
[06:20] <basil1x> Well, they're prettier. ;)
[06:20] <basil1x> And as a single command, it does work.
[06:20] <ivanity> Hi all! I'm trying to install 64 and 32 bit versions of the same package ("sudo apt-get install libgirepository-1.0-1:i386 libgirepository-1.0-1"), but apt-get says that would cause a conflict. What's the best way to learn which packages conflict with each other?
[06:22] <eb0t> hey guys which irc client do you use
[06:22] <Bushmaster> thanks basil1x and others
[06:23] <daftykins> eb0t: one that works. any reason for your query?
[06:23] <daftykins> are you looking for one of a specific kind?
[06:23] <basil1x> Welcome, Bushmaster
[06:23] <eb0t> yes reason is i was just curious as to which ones you use
[06:23] <eb0t> so i just asked
[06:23] <daftykins> irssi here
[06:23] <Bushmaster> danger is installing different desktop on my current ubunty may cause issues with my other software or file management dont u think basil1x
[06:24] <eb0t> ah cool i had a look at irssi...but preferred weechat
[06:24] <basil1x> eb0t, you obviously have one up and running.  It doesn't get better than that.  I mean, none of us see scenes with unicorns in that you don't or anything.
[06:24] <OerHeks> some use irssi, some hexchat, some xchat, there are maybe more
[06:24] <codygman> Should I change my linker from ld to ld.gold via update-alternatives (how?) or just by updating the symlink?
[06:24] <eb0t> no it does get beeter
[06:24] <daftykins> basil1x: you need a patch for that ;)
[06:24] <eb0t> this weechat is amazing once configured
[06:24] <basil1x> heh
[06:24] <eb0t> you should try it
[06:25] <daftykins> no thanks - and this isn't the place to wax lyrical about your favourite
[06:25] <eb0t> you wont look back
[06:25] <basil1x> Bushmaster, Yeah, some DEs don;t play nice together.  Avoid LXDE for instance.
[06:25] <eb0t> runs fantastic on ubuntu
[06:25] <eb0t> puts the rest to shame
[06:25] <OerHeks> eb0t, there is no single best, and beyond the topic of this channel, thanks/
[06:25] <eb0t> oh there is ...its called weechat
[06:26] <Bushmaster> right now i am in unity, i just want to replace that with something i am used to, may be xubuntu desktop, is it possible without breaking the system or its organization basil1x
[06:26] <eb0t> one fo the guys was using irrsi...i think i just changed his mind
[06:26] <basil1x> Oh poo.  I remempre you now, ethingy.  *ignore*
[06:26] <Ben64> eb0t: not on topic here, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic where nobody will care still
[06:26] <OerHeks> eb0t, stop it now, please
[06:27] <eb0t> say pretty please
[06:27] <basil1x> Xfce and unity play well together, Bushmaster .  Or so has been my opinion.  I'm sure you'll find someone who's found this not to be the case, though.
[06:28] <daftykins> i'm sure i'd seen eb0t before too.
[06:30] <Bushmaster> basil1x,  right now, i am running that unity and ubuntu LTS, cant remember the version name, i have several software in the unity left hand side bar that scroll and bounce back and forth when u try to scroll them with mouse, its annoying, cos they are bouncing, all i want is replacing this dekstop, but i certainly dont want the system to break, so do u know how to actually replace unity with xfce desktop then without compromising what softw
[06:30] <Bushmaster> are i installed etc? basil1x
[06:31] <bazhang> Bushmaster, try gnome-shell
[06:31] <basil1x> Not replace, no.  I can add it alongside fairly easily, though.
[06:31] <basil1x> though I'm sensing that's not what you want.
[06:31] <bazhang> Bushmaster, unity and gnome-shell are both gnome3 shells
[06:31] <Bushmaster> okay, so when i add it alongside, u mean in log in menu, it will ask me which desktop to choose basil1x
[06:32] <basil1x> I do
[06:32] <basil1x> You have to tick the toothy wheely thing and select it.  It will then be default until you select another.
[06:32] <Bushmaster> bazhang,  xfce will work for me as basil1x  may able to help me
[06:33] <basil1x> all you have to do is 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' without the inverted commas.
[06:33] <basil1x> It will ask you to install quite a few packages.
[06:34] <Bushmaster> u sure it wont cause any issue on the software i have installed, i have carefully chosen software for my use, mostly mathematical software like R commander, Python IDE, LaTeX, etc and need to be careful i dont screw things up basil1x
[06:34] <bazhang> Bushmaster, keep in mind that install xubuntu-desktop with give you more than one of several similar applications
[06:34] <dkbhadeshiya_> running that command will install complete xubuntu desktop
[06:34] <basil1x> After that is done, reboot and choose the new DE at login.
[06:34] <dkbhadeshiya_> and even change the Grub entry to xubuntu
[06:34] <basil1x> I've never had any issue installing XFCE
[06:34] <joshuasm32> I have a major issue with Ubuntu:
[06:34] <basil1x> He's right.  It will update GRUB to reflect the change.
[06:35] <joshuasm32> I got sick of the guest account and tried to use this page http://www.howtogeek.com/117994/how-to-disable-ubuntus-guest-session-account/
[06:35] <Ben64> it'd be better to do "sudo apt-get install xfce4"
[06:35] <Ben64> not so many extra packages
[06:35] <joshuasm32> It involves editing LightDM.conf
[06:35] <dkbhadeshiya_> yes thats better
[06:36] <joshuasm32> Unlike what was shown, the file was empty and surprisingly there was no password prompt
[06:36] <dkbhadeshiya_> LightDM.conf has some entry about guest account, dont remember though, but you have to change it to 'false'
[06:36] <joshuasm32> I added the line "allow-guest=false" and restarted my device
[06:36] <joshuasm32> Now there is no GUI
[06:36] <Bushmaster> dkbhadeshiya_,  very well put comment, basil1x  as dkbhadeshiya_ point out, at the moment, i am multibooting with OpenSuse, Mint , Ubuntu and Windows, hence my grub entry is on OPenSuse GRUB2 it will cause issues dont u think, i mean i like OpenSuse grub2 entry, i can always reinstall it to get it back i assume, also Ubuntu is brilliant, cos it does not create issues running other Linux or windows with it alongside at all
[06:36] <joshuasm32> LightDM cannot be found it states
[06:36] <joshuasm32> I think there was a problem editing
[06:37] <joshuasm32> Reconfiguring graphics or using a low-graphic session does not work
[06:37] <basil1x> You should try his way forst, Bushmaster , as it's a subset of mine anyway.
[06:37] <joshuasm32> Cannot use any entries in the low graphics mode
[06:38]  * basil1x didn't clock that a dual grub thing was happening.  Sorry for the inconvenience.
[06:38] <joshuasm32> Basically I can't go to a login screen, command line in boot says LightDM is gone, and the tutorial was a piece of crap
[06:38] <Bushmaster> not sure about ur last comment basil1x  and Ben64  was suggesting xfce4, is it the one i should install?
[06:38] <joshuasm32> What should I do?
[06:39] <dkbhadeshiya_> try reinstalling lightdm
[06:39] <joshuasm32> How?
[06:39] <dkbhadeshiya_> if it fails then install GDM
[06:39] <joshuasm32> Command line is locked
[06:39] <joshuasm32> No GUI
[06:39] <dkbhadeshiya_> Command line is locked?? Strange
[06:39] <basil1x> Bushmaster, yes... try xfce4 first.
[06:39] <joshuasm32> in boot
[06:39] <dkbhadeshiya_> No GUI means you have access to CLI??
[06:39] <joshuasm32> "Stopping recovery options if display manager fails to start"
[06:39] <joshuasm32> Recovery does not work
[06:39] <beefkitten> Need help getting resolution above 1024x768???
[06:40] <joshuasm32> No options in it at all that is
[06:40] <joshuasm32> @beefkitten are you using a monitor?
[06:40] <beefkitten> yeah
[06:40] <joshuasm32> Click the other display icon
[06:40] <joshuasm32> Set built-in to disabled
[06:40] <joshuasm32> Then change it there
[06:41] <joshuasm32> Infinite message @dkbhadeshiya is shown
[06:41] <joshuasm32> no function at all
[06:41] <joshuasm32> its a laptop harddrive cannot be taken out
[06:41] <joshuasm32> and the disk is encrypted
[06:42] <eblip> wow disk encryption
[06:42] <beefkitten> joshuasm32: i'm only working on one dispay...there is no "other display" option in my settings
[06:43] <beefkitten> just built new machine today, and display is the only thing we can't get right
[06:43] <joshuasm32> oh
[06:43] <joshuasm32> sry i use laptop with external display a lot
[06:44] <joshuasm32> Anyway, I need to access my laptop
[06:45] <joshuasm32> Does anyone know how to edit the LightDB.conf file from the in-boot command line (by hitting esc) and have it restored?
[06:45] <jamswat> joshuasm32, Does SSH work?
[06:45] <jamswat> Oops sorry
[06:46] <jamswat> was reading old stuff
[06:46] <joshuasm32> Running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[06:47] <niLuvU> https://example.org/owncloud/remote.php/webdav
[06:47] <niLuvU> is this safe ^
[06:47] <niLuvU> https + webdav ?
[06:47] <Bushmaster> basil1x, just finised installing it, let me reboot and see what happen, thanks for the help and i may seek help if i get stuck
[06:48] <jamswat> So anyway joshuasm32, it turns out my question was relevant. Does SSHing from another machine to the locked up machine work?
[06:49] <joshuasm32> I'm not sure what you mean sorry
[06:49] <joshuasm32> My disk is encrypted
[06:49] <joshuasm32> This may be a problem if using remote
[06:50] <jamswat> Do you have any other computers connected to your network?
[06:50] <vegombrei> hi how do i install files that come in tar.gz
[06:50] <vegombrei> im new to linux
[06:50] <jamswat> vegombrei, they're source files
[06:50] <joshuasm32> Yes
[06:50] <jamswat> you need to compile them
[06:51] <joshuasm32> A smaller notebook
[06:51] <jamswat> okay. That's good.
[06:51] <basil1x> vegombrei, have you extracted the files and looked for instructions?
[06:51] <vegombrei> i extracted them into the download folder and now im confused dunno what to do
[06:51] <jamswat> windows or linux on the netbook?
[06:51] <basil1x> Or checked to see if someone's made a .deb of whatever it is?
[06:51] <EriC^^> vegombrei: check the README
[06:51] <joshuasm32> @vegombrei do you want to install or run?
[06:52] <basil1x> because being new, a .deb would simplify everything.
[06:52] <joshuasm32> tar.xz is like a zip in windows
[06:52] <joshuasm32> inside is a .sf file usually
[06:52] <joshuasm32> you have to change a setting to run it instead of viewing source code
[06:52] <joshuasm32> you can do this by editing preferences in nautilus, under behavious
[06:52] <joshuasm32> *behaviour
[06:52] <jamswat> Also joshuasm32, do you have a android/iOS device?
[06:52] <joshuasm32> no
[06:53] <joshuasm32> 2 ubuntu, 1 raspbmc
[06:53] <jamswat> that's going to make it a bit more difficult. Oh well.
[06:53] <joshuasm32> 1 ubuntu is down
[06:53] <joshuasm32> Oh...
[06:53] <joshuasm32> Sorry about than then
[06:53] <jamswat> On the working machine type "sudo apt-get install zenmap"
[06:53] <joshuasm32> okay
[06:54] <vegombrei> EriC^^: readme gives absolutely no information on how to install
[06:54] <EriC^^> vegombrei: what are you trying to install?
[06:54] <joshuasm32> vego, do you want to install or are you okay with just running it?
[06:54] <joshuasm32> *vegombrei
[06:55] <vegombrei> EriC^^: serviio is a media server i wanna use instead of plex
[06:55] <jamswat> I forgot to ask, joshuasm32. Is the locked up machine a desktop or laptop?
[06:55] <joshuasm32> laptop
[06:56] <joshuasm32> acer aspire with touch ^^
[06:56] <SwiftRider> Hello
[06:56] <joshuasm32> hello
[06:56] <EriC^^> vegombrei: ok, where did you download it from?
[06:56] <jamswat> Does it have a ethernet port?
[06:56] <SwiftRider> I'm having troubles copying files from a CD drive to my system.
[06:56] <joshuasm32> yes
[06:56] <SwiftRider> When I try to select all the files and use 'Copy' option in the right click panel, it says 'Input/output error'. I'm guessing it's a permission issue.
[06:56] <SwiftRider> What can I do to fix this?
[06:56] <vegombrei> EriC^^: http://www.serviio.org/
[06:57] <jamswat> good, is it possible to connect it up to your router with an ethernet cable?
[06:57] <joshuasm32> yes :)
[06:57] <jamswat> Good.
[06:57] <joshuasm32> finished zenmap install...
[06:58] <jamswat> Can you now tell me the output of "ifconfig"
[06:58] <metaphysician> Is it true that Ubuntu kernel team is going to maintain 3.16 kernel until 2016? What PPA are they using for same?
[06:58] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: is this with all CDs or one in particular?
[06:58] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Just this one.
[06:58] <jamswat> there should be a line containing "192.168"
[06:58] <jamswat> paste that
[06:58] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: it could be a sign of a damaged disk, are there any visible scratches/etc on the bottom surface?
[06:59] <vegombrei> howcome they dont make installables where you double click and it installs or even sudo apt-get is awesome how does a newbie deal with tar.gz and then install this?
[06:59] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Nope. It works perfectly on Windows.
[06:59] <joshuasm32>  br0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr dc:0e:a1:57:1a:fa
[06:59] <joshuasm32>           inet addr:192.168.1.10  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[06:59] <joshuasm32>           inet6 addr: fe80::de0e:a1ff:fe57:1afa/64 Scope:Link
[06:59] <joshuasm32>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[06:59] <joshuasm32>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:59] <jamswat> good
[06:59] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: Windows may not be being as picky about the checksums or something
[07:00] <SwiftRider> Should've told him to do ifconfig | grep 192 or something ^_^
[07:00] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: is this a burned disk, or factory made?
[07:00] <basil1x> vegombrei, newbies usually go lok for a ppa from some nice person who's built whatever it is for Ubuntu
[07:00] <jamswat> True. Now I feel bad. :(
[07:00] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Burned disk.
[07:00] <jamswat> Sorry Josh!
[07:00] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: how recently?
[07:00] <jamswat> anyway, I now have the info I need
[07:00] <EriC^^> vegombrei: cd to the directory you extracted, and type ./bin/serviio.sh
[07:00] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: An year ago, maybe.
[07:00] <jamswat> type "gksudo zenmap &"
[07:01] <joshuasm32> oh no my mistake thanks btw
[07:01] <jamswat> and put in your password.
[07:01] <EriC^^> vegombrei: to start the console type ./bin/serviio-console.sh
[07:01] <joshuasm32> done
[07:01] <EriC^^> vegombrei: check starting the server and adding media etc. here http://www.serviio.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5
[07:02] <jamswat> Okay, in the target box type "192.168.1.*"
[07:02] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Basically, I just want to play a media file. It's in .DAT format, but I can't seem to be able to play it.
[07:02] <Bushmaster> basil1x, thanks, succesfully installed and work fine and good news is, it did not update my grub either, all i need to figure out is how to get rid of the all the parittion disk icon showing on the desktop and how to change the theme and wallapaper
[07:02] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: If you are only seeing problems with this 1 disk, chances are it is a problem with the disk (different operating systems and applications will handle this differently). If you really want to read the data in Linux, you could try dd'ing the disk to an image file then mounting that
[07:02] <SwiftRider> I don't really need to copy it to the drive anyway; just playing is enough.
[07:03] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: if you still have the original versions of the data (on another computer, etc), then I would highly recommend using those instead of a possibly damaged disk
[07:03] <jamswat> And in the profile box select "Quick scan plus"
[07:03] <jamswat> and press "scan"
[07:03] <basil1x> Bushmaster, do you *want* to rid yourself of the desktop icons?
[07:03] <Bushmaster> basil1x, good news is, it did not break the system, and all the software i installed in Unity remain well intact and well organized
[07:03] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: I don't, that's the problem :(
[07:03] <jamswat> It might take a few minutes to finish
[07:03] <joshuasm32> okay
[07:03] <joshuasm32> still doing it
[07:03] <EriC^^> vegombrei: it says you need to install ffmpeg first, if it doesn't work, type sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[07:03] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Could you tell me how to do that? I'm reading man dd but that's going to take me a lot of time :/
[07:03] <Bushmaster> yes basil1x i like to keep my desktop clean and also the wallpaper, i like rainforest etc by default it chose a blue screen
[07:03] <SwiftRider> <-- n00b
[07:04] <jamswat> When it's done, copy the output, put it on pastebin.org, and send it to me.
[07:04] <basil1x> Bushmaster, they're there in xfce, though I do think you can configure it to not put them there, but I'm not on xfce atm, so buggered if I can recall how.
[07:05] <Bushmaster> yes its little difficult unlike unity basil1x  thanaks anyhow
[07:05] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: then I would dd the disk to a local image and mount that locally, though I cannot guarantee the file will be uncorrupted
[07:05] <basil1x> Welcome.
[07:05] <joshuasm32> http://pastebin.com/Evb7Mhhn
[07:05] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Yeah, how to do 'dd the disk to local image'?
[07:05] <Bushmaster> thanks Ben64 for suggesting xfc64, its good and it did not update my GRUB which is good
[07:06] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: if you run "mount" it should print a bunch of information, 1 line will indicate your cdrom (/dev/cdrom or something similar)
[07:06] <jamswat> Damn. Just what I didn't want to see.
[07:06] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/save/image.img
[07:06] <jamswat> Are you sure that the ethernet cable is plugged in?
[07:07] <vegombrei> EriC^^: you installed it sucessfully?
[07:07] <joshuasm32> i'll reboot the router
[07:07] <jamswat> That wouldn't do anything.
[07:07] <joshuasm32> ethernet is a bit dogy
[07:07] <jamswat> Okay.
[07:07] <joshuasm32> *dodegy
[07:07] <EriC^^> vegombrei: i didn't install it, i read the docs on the website
[07:07] <vegombrei> EriC^^: dude nothing happens
[07:07] <EriC^^> there's an install guide i pasted the link earlier
[07:07] <EriC^^> vegombrei: i think the first command runs the server
[07:08] <EriC^^> ( in the background )
[07:08] <SwiftRider> EriC^^: thanks. That's done.
[07:08] <SwiftRider> How do I mount it?
[07:08] <jamswat> Anyway, ensure the cable is plugged in, and reboot the frozen pc.
[07:08] <vegombrei> EriC^^: cruisor goes to the next line and nothing happens
[07:08] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: how big of a file did it create?
[07:08] <EriC^^> vegombrei: the second command runs a console i guess
[07:08] <DarwinSurvivor> "du -h /path/to/save/image.img"
[07:08] <john> hey guys, I need a little help with installing ubuntu on assus laptop
[07:08] <EriC^^> vegombrei: with the second command?
[07:08] <jamswat> Then redo the scan, and send it again.
[07:08] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: the cdrom could be /dev/sr0 btw
[07:09] <vegombrei> EriC^^: one sec
[07:09] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: it most likely is, type lsblk to check
[07:09] <__john__doe__> I have windows uefi installation that I can't delete
[07:09] <joshuasm32> ethernet works now restarting scan
[07:09] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: nevermind, /dev/cdrom is a symlink to /dev/sr0
[07:09] <__john__doe__> I want to install it with legacy boot option, with grub2
[07:09] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: so it's the same thing
[07:10] <__john__doe__> so that windows installation is intact, while Im using linux
[07:10] <DarwinSurvivor> __john__doe__: which version of windows?
[07:10] <__john__doe__> I installed it, didn't have any error
[07:10] <__john__doe__> 8.1
[07:10] <__john__doe__> I dont need dual boot
[07:10] <__john__doe__> I just dont want to delete windows and all of its recovery stuff
[07:10] <__john__doe__> and use linux as main OS
[07:10] <SwiftRider> EriC^^: 651264 bytes (651 kB) copied, 0.0604047 s, 10.8 MB/s
[07:10] <SwiftRider> Weird.
[07:11] <SwiftRider> It's the same for both /dev/cdrom and /dev/sr0
[07:11] <joshuasm32> http://pastebin.com/ynfvRZtA
[07:11] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: that's odd
[07:12] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: it sounds like you either copied the wrong device, or the disk is unreadable
[07:12] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: How do I know if the disk is unreadable?
[07:12] <lolbox> Hello
[07:12] <jamswat> Nope. It's not finding the broken machine.
[07:12] <jamswat> That's a shame.
[07:12] <joshuasm32> i'll try again in a few minutes
[07:13] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: ubuntu cdlive install will ask if you want to just delete all and install it.  can't you just use that option?
[07:13] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: try with conv=noerror
[07:13] <joshuasm32> maybe still booting?
[07:13] <jamswat> Maybe.
[07:13] <SwiftRider> ls output => lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Nov 16 12:39 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
[07:13] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/save/image.img conv=noerror
[07:13] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: run "mount" and you should see an entry for the cdrom if it is still mounted
[07:13] <joshuasm32> i'm using my parent's evil airport router, its ports are all jacked up
[07:13] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: notrunc too
[07:13] <joshuasm32> may be it
[07:13] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/save/image.img conv=notrunc,noerror
[07:13] <deego> which parent's?
[07:14] <joshuasm32> parents' you troll
[07:14] <joshuasm32> :)
[07:14] <deego> lol
[07:14] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Yes, it's still mounted.
[07:14] <lolbox> so yesterday i've installed ubuntu 14.10 and i keep getting display freezes,i am running nvidia-331 from additional drivers,i can get past the freezes by switching to a tty,is there any solution except for switching back and forth?
[07:14] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: does it show /dev/cdrom as the device that it mounted?
[07:14] <joshuasm32> I'm really hoping I won't need to fresh install
[07:14] <SwiftRider> EriC^^: Same thing happens. Except it repeats over and over again. The file size remains the same.
[07:15] <jamswat> So joshuasm32, is your entire disk encrypted?
[07:15] <joshuasm32> using the option in the ubuntu setup
[07:15] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: /dev/sr0 on /media/user/diskname type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500,uhelper=udisks2)
[07:15] <joshuasm32> requires password during boot
[07:15] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: ok, then dd with /dev/sr0 should be correct
[07:16] <jamswat> Doesn't that only encrypt your home folder? Maybe someone else can correct me. I've never really messed around with encryption.
[07:16] <joshuasm32> No
[07:16] <joshuasm32> That's another option
[07:16] <joshuasm32> I'm using both at once ^^
[07:16] <jamswat> Ahh yes, I understand.
[07:16] <joshuasm32> It's when you select install ubuntu
[07:16] <joshuasm32> there is an option to encrypt it as well and even use logical volume management
[07:16] <joshuasm32> I have both enabled
[07:16] <jamswat> Does it get to the point where it prompts you for your password?
[07:16] <__john__doe__> sacarlson: I set up my partition manually
[07:16] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Still the same file size. 693 KB. Could it be a permission issue?
[07:16] <joshuasm32> yes
[07:16] <__john__doe__> because I need certain setup
[07:17] <joshuasm32> past that
[07:17] <DarwinSurvivor> jamswat: if you need to enter the encryption password before the login screen, that is whole-disk encryption
[07:17] <joshuasm32> then goes into low graphical boot
[07:17] <__john__doe__> I did everything that partition wizzard asked me
[07:17] <__john__doe__> but it's not working
[07:17] <jamswat> Yep. Thanks DarwinSurvivor.
[07:17] <joshuasm32> however, nothing in low graphic boot works
[07:17] <DarwinSurvivor> jamswat: home-folder encryption will almost always use your login password as the decryption key, making it seemless
[07:17] <joshuasm32> blinks the "window", then shows the thing again
[07:17] <joshuasm32> screenshot?
[07:17] <SwiftRider> I don't know if it makes any difference, but I tried `sudo su -` and cd'd to the cdrom directory and did `cp -R . ~/Desktop` - it outputted the same error.
[07:17] <joshuasm32> i can use a command line thing when hitting esc
[07:18] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: if it was a permission issue, you should get an error
[07:18] <joshuasm32> message there says display manager cannot be loaded
[07:18] <joshuasm32> then sits infinitely
[07:18] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: what does "ls -l /dev/sr0" print?
[07:18] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: so erase all that's in the efi partition and see how it goes.  I"ve never installed efi manualy before
[07:18] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Nov 16 12:39 /dev/sr0
[07:18] <jamswat> And it doesn't respond to anything?
[07:18] <joshuasm32> nope
[07:19] <__john__doe__> sacarlson: I dont want uefi
[07:19] <joshuasm32> what ip* thing was it again?
[07:19] <__john__doe__> I want to keep it on my disk
[07:19] <__john__doe__> but use grub
[07:19] <Stainedhat> hey all, I'm having problems with ubuntu server 14.04 cli going to sleep and losing network connectivity. I've tried acpi=off but that seems to break lvm. Any other options for disabling power management?
[07:19] <joshuasm32> me too
[07:19] <__john__doe__> I setup my bios 10mb partition because it's gpt partition type
[07:19] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: if "cdrom" appears in the list when you run "id", then there should be no permissions issues
[07:19] <lolbox> i wonder how to fix the random display freezing
[07:19] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: oh is that option work in your bios?  the just delete the uefi partition and see if it works
[07:19] <__john__doe__> I setup my boot partition, root and home
[07:19] <jamswat> Does it respond to REISUB? http://fosswire.com/post/2007/09/fix-a-frozen-system-with-the-magic-sysrq-keys/
[07:19] <joshuasm32> have to restart a lot network breaks
[07:20] <Stainedhat> I'm running in a virtualbox so no real bios
[07:20] <__john__doe__> sacarlson: I cant delete it
[07:20] <__john__doe__> than I wont be able to recover windows later
[07:20] <jamswat> Just to make sure SOMETHING's still working.
[07:20] <__john__doe__> it's company computer, not my personal
[07:20] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: It does.
[07:20] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: oh you stated you didn't want dual boot
[07:20] <__john__doe__> that's why I decided not to touch uefi but to go with grub
[07:20] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: then it's not a permissions issue
[07:20] <__john__doe__> sacarlson: yep
[07:20] <joshuasm32> @who jamswat?
[07:20] <joshuasm32> REISUB thing
[07:20] <SwiftRider> Dammit, I give up. I'll just install Windows and copy the contents -____-
[07:21] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: try isoinfo -d -i /dev/sr0 | grep -i -E 'block size|volume size'
[07:21] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor, EriC^^: Thank you for your help!
[07:21] <jamswat> joshuasm32,
[07:21] <Xe> I am getting X to segfault when loading the proprietary ATI drivers
[07:21] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: you might be able to point your bios to anther disk or another partition of the disk for mbr then
[07:21] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: if Windows can read it, then try copying the files in Windows, then moving them to Linux
[07:21] <SwiftRider> EriC^^: Logical block size is: 2048, Volume size is: 1124
[07:21] <__john__doe__> see on my home laptop, ACER, I disable secure boot and I get legacy option
[07:21] <joshuasm32> ...it isn't frozen however
[07:21] <jamswat> Sorry, I should make it obvious, don't want someone accidently using reisub. :)
[07:22] <SwiftRider> DarwinSurvivor: Yeah, but the problem is I don't have Windows installed.
[07:22] <joshuasm32> esc can toggle, as can arrow keys
[07:22] <Xe> looking at the logs it looks like a null pointer error
[07:22] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/save/image.img bs=2048 count=1124 conv=notrunc,noerror
[07:22] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: It sounds like the disk itself is damaged though, so you may want to try some physical recovery as well (disk repair kit, simple cleaning, etc)
[07:22] <joshuasm32> but cmd line is locked
[07:22] <__john__doe__> on asus I disabled secure boot and enabled csm and PXE OpROM
[07:22] <__john__doe__> but still doesn't boot
[07:22] <daftykins> lol PXE option ROM is for network boot.
[07:22] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: i think that means there's only 2mb on the cdrom
[07:22] <__john__doe__> daftykins: so should I just keep CSM?
[07:23] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: ya pxe is netboot
[07:23] <jamswat> joshuasm32, what do you mean? You don't need the command line. This works at a very low kernel level.
[07:23] <DarwinSurvivor> SwiftRider: sometimes (but rarely), just trying a computer with a different drive can do the trick
[07:23] <jamswat> Does it reboot the stuck PC?
[07:23] <daftykins> __john__doe__: that's only relevant if you want a non-EFI install
[07:23] <joshuasm32> not sure what you mean
[07:23] <__john__doe__> daftykins: I did non-efi install
[07:23] <SwiftRider> EriC^^: Nope, properties says '19 items, totalling 616.4 MB'
[07:24] <daftykins> __john__doe__: i saw you mention GPT, CSM can't boot from a GPT disk
[07:24] <__john__doe__> daftykins: legacy boot can
[07:24] <daftykins> __john__doe__: i don't even know what your issue is though :) just switched channels
[07:24] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: so you already did non-efi install so where did you point to put your mbr?
[07:24] <jamswat> Holding "SysReq" +  "R" "E" "I" "S" "U" "B" keys in linux forces the PC to reboot.
[07:24] <joshuasm32> i can reboot it
[07:24] <__john__doe__> to 10md bios partition I created manually
[07:25] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/save/image.img bs=2048 count=300000 conv=notrunc,noerror
[07:25] <jamswat> Using those keys.
[07:25] <jamswat> ?
[07:25] <__john__doe__> actually ubuntu asked me that
[07:25] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: try that and see if it the image file is larger
[07:25] <jamswat> Just to see if the kernel'
[07:25] <jamswat> s responding.
[07:25] <joshuasm32> ah
[07:25] <martyj-o> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/ <-- What the eff? Since when can 32-bit computers only have less than 2 GB of RAM? It's 4 GB or less...
[07:25] <joshuasm32> i can hold the power button
[07:25] <joshuasm32> controls work
[07:26] <EriC^^> SwiftRider: ( that wont get you all that's on the cd, but check if it gets you more first )
[07:26] <joshuasm32> i can hit esc or left/right and switch from splash screen to command line thing
[07:26] <SwiftRider> EriC^^: It is. It's now 1.1 MB
[07:26] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: ok then now you have to point bios to that 10mb partition if your bios supports such things
[07:26] <joshuasm32> and tap/hold power to reboot
[07:26] <joshuasm32> it isn't frozen, but the command line makes no progress in boot and does not accept commands
[07:26] <joshuasm32> (the usual thing)
[07:26] <__john__doe__> sacarlson: I know, that's where I got stuck :)
[07:26] <joshuasm32> are you able to type when hitting esc during boot?
[07:26] <Xe> Anyone available to answer my question?
[07:26] <joshuasm32> i've never been able :/
[07:27] <martyj-o> Can somebody explain my finding?
[07:27] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: ok then mybe your bios doesn't support it
[07:27] <martyj-o> Why does the page talk about "less than 2 GB"?
[07:27] <__john__doe__> hmmmm
[07:28] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: maybe you will need some usb or cd bios loader just to boot your main disk
[07:28] <joshuasm32> i'm guessing its a lost cause?
[07:28] <__john__doe__> sacarlson that's what I thought
[07:28] <__john__doe__> how can I create grub on my usb, if I boot from same usb
[07:28] <Flannel> martyj-o: You can use either one.  They're recommending the 64bit version for computers with larger than 2GB of RAM
[07:28] <__john__doe__> I have only one available
[07:28] <jamwat> I'm back.
[07:29] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: you can use something like plop to boot your main disk from usb
[07:29] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: again assuming your system supports usb boot
[07:29] <joshuasm32> Such a shame... I just spent weeks upgrading all of my media to pbthal flac
[07:29] <joshuasm32> not backed up
[07:29] <__john__doe__> sacarlson: it does, I installed ubuntu from unetbootin usb stick
[07:29] <jamwat> That's unfortunate. :(
[07:30] <daftykins> martyj-o: yeah, you didn't understand its' intention very well. it says <2GB because that's the 'less than' value which means more sense for using a 32-bit distro with. simple.
[07:30] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: ok well that's a last resort then plop or similar grub usb
[07:31] <joshuasm32> @jam(s)wat, what was the ip* thing again?
[07:31] <joshuasm32> to use in zen?
[07:31] <jamwat> "192.168.1.*"
[07:31] <daftykins> jamwat: do you have a question?
[07:32] <sacarlson> __john__doe__: but keep researching your bios to be sure there isn't a better way http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/download.html
[07:32] <jamwat> What do you mean?
[07:32] <joshuasm32> no
[07:32] <joshuasm32> he's helping me
[07:32] <joshuasm32> i owe u one
[07:32] <joshuasm32> thanks for helping so far
[07:32] <jamwat> That's okay. I really should be studying for exams atm. :P
[07:32] <DarwinSurvivor> joshuasm32: have you tried accessing the drive from a recovery disk?
[07:33] <jamwat> The disk's encrypted DarwinSurvivor.
[07:33] <jamwat> Can you decrypt it?
[07:33] <jamwat> with the recovery disk?
[07:33] <DarwinSurvivor> jamwat: yes, it should prompt you for the password when you try to mount it from the live-cd
[07:34] <jamwat> Okay, Thanks DarwinSurvivor
[07:34] <Rohan_14> does "sudo -i" works on every linux distro ?
[07:34] <jamwat> Yes
[07:34] <joshuasm32> i don't have a recovery disk
[07:34] <joshuasm32> just a pw
[07:34] <jamwat> Make one. :P
[07:34] <joshuasm32> how?
[07:34] <EriC^^> Rohan_14: if sudo is installed, yes
[07:34] <smacktalk> so I have 4 x 1 T hard drives in a case and I'd like to convert it to an ubuntu studio system....is there a way to make the spare drives accessible to the network as a share?
[07:34] <joshuasm32> its locke
[07:34] <joshuasm32> *locked
[07:34] <EriC^^> Rohan_14: if not use su -c "<command>"
[07:35] <jamwat> Put ubuntu on a spare USB disk, and boot it up in live mode on the locked up machine.
[07:35] <Rohan_14> EriC^^: su works on every linux distro ?
[07:35] <jamwat> Yes Rohan_14
[07:35] <paranoidandroid> live mode?
[07:35] <EriC^^> Rohan_14: yeah it should
[07:35] <paranoidandroid> oh!
[07:36] <Rohan_14> EriC^^: :)
[07:36] <EriC^^> Rohan_14: if you want a shell, su -
[07:36] <paranoidandroid> so shoud I install the os to a disk or use try ubuntu from a usb?
[07:36] <paranoidandroid> already have 2 usb installers, one 32bit the other 64, could i use the try ubuntu thing or should i install it to the usb?
[07:36] <paranoidandroid> (no disk drive)
[07:36] <jamwat> use "Try before installing"
[07:36] <jamwat> or whatever it's called.
[07:37] <paranoidandroid> and then fix the file?
[07:37] <jamwat> Yes.
[07:37] <paranoidandroid> wow that is an amazing idea
[07:37] <EriC^^> Rohan_14: :)
[07:37] <jamwat> It was DarwinSurvivor's idea. Thank him.
[07:37] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: what operating systems would you like to share them with?
[07:38] <paranoidandroid> at school ubuntu is black market
[07:38] <paranoidandroid> loan the drives after school
[07:38] <paranoidandroid> to dual boot the notebook provided
[07:38] <paranoidandroid> ^^
[07:38] <paranoidandroid> keep them nice and handy
[07:38] <smacktalk> I'd like to share with a windows desktop
[07:39] <jamwat> Apparently, it will prompt you for the decryption password when you try to mount it in "live" android. paranoidandroid.
[07:39] <lolbox> i've disabled swappiness to see if the screen freezing goes away
[07:39] <jamwat> Oops "live" ubuntu
[07:39] <paranoidandroid> (Paranoid Android is a Radiohead track)
[07:40] <jamwat> And a android rom. :P
[07:41] <paranoidandroid> oh neat
[07:41] <jamwat> Anyway paranoidandroid, it should be pretty easy to fix the LightDM config once you mount the encrypted drive.
[07:42] <daftykins> smacktalk: samba.
[07:42] <DarwinSurvivor> !samba
[07:42] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: ^^
[07:42] <paranoidandroid> oh i have grub access
[07:43] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: you want "samba file server" from the second link
[07:43] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, apparently there is a "'default" lightdm.conf at /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz
[07:43] <jamwat> compresssed obviously.
[07:43] <smacktalk> ok so I just go ahead and install ubuntu studio...and set up samba after?
[07:44] <daftykins> smacktalk: no idea why you want studio, but sure.
[07:44] <smacktalk> there's no special way to set up the directories
[07:44] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: pretty much
[07:44] <paranoidandroid> ah damn ubuntu can't find it
[07:44] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: what do you mean by "special way"?
[07:44] <paranoidandroid> replaced my acer boot maneu
[07:44] <paranoidandroid> device not listed
[07:44] <smacktalk> why wouldn't I want studio, it's got all the art programs..photography
[07:45] <paranoidandroid> sorry ignore me
[07:45] <EriC^^> Swiftrider you good?
[07:45] <paranoidandroid> going on and on
[07:45] <SavKobani> hi
[07:45] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, the bios isn't finding the USB stick?
[07:45] <daftykins> smacktalk: because i can't read minds and had no idea you desire such things.
[07:45] <paranoidandroid> nope
[07:45] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: actually, I think the newer Ubuntu versions may have it built right in. http://www.7tutorials.com/how-access-ubuntu-shared-folders-windows-7
[07:45] <SavKobani> is there a way to undelete a file i did rm -rf on?
[07:45] <EriC^^> How do you tab complete on a phone?
[07:45] <daftykins> DarwinSurvivor: yep and it fails right out of the box!
[07:45] <paranoidandroid> trying to use advanced options mode to see if it works
[07:45] <niLuvU> guys I want to convert all my office files from .docx/.doc to .odt/ODF; about 1000 files ; What to do ?
[07:45] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: you should be able to just right-click the folder and set up sharing (never done it that my myself though)
[07:46] <daftykins> SavKobani: nope. unless you start messing with data recovery programs, but you'll need to reboot immediately and use a live session for that
[07:47] <paranoidandroid> hmm i have a cmd now
[07:47] <smacktalk> oh....hopefully it'll have the individual drives listed and I can just right click and share
[07:47] <paranoidandroid> would it be possible to fix it from here?
[07:47] <jamwat> Where exactly is the command line. On the broken install?
[07:47] <paranoidandroid> yes
[07:47] <daftykins> smacktalk: only if you mount them somewhere during the install, maybe to /media/disk1 /media/disk2 etc
[07:47] <paranoidandroid> i used advanced options i'm so stupid
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> i'm really sorry to
[07:48] <jamwat> The same install that was "locked"
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> *too
[07:48] <jamwat> ?
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> the boot cmd was locked
[07:48] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: not quite. In linux the drives are mounted to folders, you'll want to share those folders (very similar concept though)
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> was too stupid to hit f12 and use advanced mode
[07:48] <jamwat> Okay.
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> if you have reddit, i can give u gold
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> so sorry
[07:48] <jamwat> Me?
[07:48] <paranoidandroid> yeah
[07:49] <paranoidandroid> is is possible to fix LightDM from cmd?
[07:49] <smacktalk> hopefully it's straight forward in the install
[07:49] <paranoidandroid> in the broken machine?
[07:49] <jamwat> Of course I use reddit. I don't expect gold though.
[07:49] <jamwat> :P
[07:49] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: so you'll want to make the mounts permanently ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions ), then share the folders where you mounted them (ex: /mnt/drive1, etc)
[07:49]  * paranoidandroid will find you /:D
[07:49] <paranoidandroid> srs tho
[07:50] <jamwat> If you want to stalk me paranoidandroid, I'm /u/-jimmyrustles
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: just be careful during the install not to wipe out the data on your other drives (make sure you install to the right one!)
[07:50] <Stainedhat> so, does anyone know of a way to turn off suspend in 14.04 server?
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: server edition shouldn't suspend by default
[07:50] <jamwat> Can't believe I'm giving people my reddit account. :P
[07:50] <smacktalk> would I be able to make two of the drives into a raid configuration?
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: was this an original server install, or a desktop install converted to server?
[07:51] <smacktalk> there's no data...they're wiped
[07:51] <paranoidandroid> lol
[07:51] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: hmm yeah thats what I though but I have a vm that was a server edition install and it keeps turning off display and networking after a while
[07:51] <DarwinSurvivor> smacktalk: yes, you should be able to do that, but you'll need some knowledge of disk partitioning. Chose "advanced" when the installer asks about partitions
[07:51] <paranoidandroid> so from cmd...
[07:51] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, this "cmd"; is it grub, ubuntu, usb ubuntu? what?
[07:52] <paranoidandroid> i ran advanced options and loaded it
[07:52] <paranoidandroid> on the normal ubuntu
[07:52] <paranoidandroid> didn't think of using it before
[07:52] <jamwat> Okay. Fantastic!
[07:52] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: I tried acpi=off from grub but it broke lvm and coulnd't find the vg
[07:52] <lolbox> my screen froze again :(
[07:52] <paranoidandroid> root@devicename:~#
[07:52] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: what vm are you using? (virtualbox, vmware, etc?)
[07:53] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, the corrupted file is /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf?
[07:53] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: Virtualbox
[07:53] <paranoidandroid> yes
[07:54] <lolbox> idk what to do with there damn screen freezes,they just come up randomly
[07:54] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: I poked around looking for anything that would cause it in VB but couldn't find anything
[07:54] <jamwat>  do you see output when you type "zcat /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz"
[07:54] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: did you install any power management stuff after the initial install?
[07:55] <Apachez> anyone who knows why "fstrim -v /" still reports shitloads of data even if I have mounted my partitions with the discard flag set? (running ubuntu 14.10)
[07:55] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: no, just apache, php and that was pretty much about it
[07:55] <Aaron> i have a question how come my bluetooth disappear all of the sudden?
[07:55] <paranoidandroid> yes
[07:55] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: does it respond to pings when the display turns off?
[07:56] <jamwat> good, paranoidandroid.
[07:56] <paranoidandroid> ah could use cd
[07:56] <paranoidandroid> (don't know how tho lol)
[07:56] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: no it's basically like the machine is off. Cannot ping it and apache does not respond. It's like the network service is going into powersave
[07:56]  * paranoidandroid == ultra-hyper-newb
[07:57] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: as soon as I click in the VB window and ping another server it comes back up after about 2-3 sec
[07:57] <lolbox> should i install nvidia-331 updates or the tested one,because i am trying to fix my screen freeze problem
[07:57] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, can you type this: "rm /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[07:57] <Apachez> lolbox: I used the regular 331 suggested by additional drivers
[07:57] <Apachez> lolbox: that is not the nvidia-updated
[07:58] <lolbox> i have a stupid optimus laptop with nvidia-prime installed
[07:58] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, "zcat /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz > /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[07:58] <Apachez> lolbox: also make sure that you in your antialias settings (and perhaps also anistrotphic) use "let app decide"
[07:58] <paranoidandroid> read-only system
[07:58] <jamwat> okay.
[07:58] <paranoidandroid> it says when running the rm
[07:58] <Apachez> lolbox: several steam games will start with only black screen if you force antialias
[07:58] <lolbox> and every now and then i get those random screen freezing
[07:58] <jamwat> type "mount -o rw, remount /"
[07:58] <lolbox> *freezes
[07:58] <jamwat> paranoidandroid,
[07:59] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: are theer any relevant entries in /var/log/messages?
[07:59] <lolbox> by freezes i mean my mouse gets stuck and i have to switch to a tty
[07:59] <lolbox> than back to the x server
[07:59] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, did the mount command work?
[07:59] <paranoidandroid> in the usb thing?
[08:00] <jamwat> In the "root@devicename:~#" cmd
[08:00] <jamwat> can you rm the lightdm.conf file now?
[08:00] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: well, one thing i just noticed when issuing a dmesg right after it "woke up" is "plymouth-upstart-bridge main process ended, respawning"
[08:01] <paranoidandroid> it says it is a read-only system
[08:01] <paranoidandroid> i decrypted it
[08:02] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, can you post the output of "fdisk -l" (without disconnecting :) )
[08:02] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: that error could be unrelated
[08:02] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: are there any time-stamped around the time when the network connection goes down?
[08:03] <niLuvU> ok
[08:03] <paranoidandroid> invalid operation
[08:03] <paranoidandroid> gives usage stuff
[08:04] <jamwat> Okay.
[08:04] <jamwat> Can you type "sudo mount -o remount,rw /" again?
[08:04] <paranoidandroid> done
[08:05] <paranoidandroid> no output...
[08:05] <jamwat> good.
[08:05] <paranoidandroid> now try it?
[08:05] <ForExampleJohn> hi all
[08:05] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, can you run  "rm /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[08:05] <ForExampleJohn> i need some direction please
[08:05] <jamwat> ?
[08:05] <ForExampleJohn> im lost
[08:05] <Viking667> north
[08:06] <paranoidandroid> yes but no output
[08:06] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: well, i do see some messages about eth0 link is not ready but thats for IPv6 then right after that snd_intel8x0 can't find IRQ for PCI INT A; probably buggy MP table.. followed by a block f apparmor messages about dhclient and netowkr manager
[08:06] <jamwat> good.
[08:06] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, now run "zcat /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz > /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[08:06] <ForExampleJohn> trying to find a nokia support channel, so sorry to be asking this here
[08:06] <ForExampleJohn> but im just stuck in the wrong channels all the time
[08:06] <Viking667> Ahhhhh. This isn't a nokia support channel. Nothing like it, in fact.
[08:07] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: it doesn't seem right though because I am specifying everything via a static entyr in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:07] <Stainedhat> *entry
[08:07] <ForExampleJohn> yeah i know, but do you have any idea what one is called?
[08:07] <paranoidandroid> done!
[08:07] <jamwat> Good.
[08:07] <paranoidandroid> now just reboot and cross my fingers?
[08:07] <Svetlana> ForExampleJohn: hi! what specifically about nokia are you looking for help with? software? hardware? what software or what hardware?
[08:07] <jamwat> not yet.
[08:07] <Viking667> I have no idea why nokia would even have a IRC support channel.
[08:07] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: hmm, unfortunately I'm running out of ideas
[08:08] <Viking667> but... that aside, what issue are you having with your Nokia?
[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> Darkvapour: the only thing I can think of is that the screen and network issues *may* be unrelated
[08:08] <jamwat> can you verify that "cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" and "zcat /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz" produce the SAME output?
[08:08] <ForExampleJohn> Viking, you are a legend
[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: sorry, Darkvapour's message was for you
[08:08] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor:  yeah same here.. Google is not being helpful for once either. i'm gonna tail -F the dmesg log and see if I see anything when it "sleeps"
[08:08] <paranoidandroid> yes.
[08:08] <paranoidandroid> good?
[08:08] <ForExampleJohn> I have nokia suite installed on pc, but it doesn't want to connect to the web
[08:08] <jamwat> Try rebooting.
[08:09] <jamwat> And cross your fingers :D
[08:09] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: I think server mode *will* turn off the screen after a while (but just the screen).
[08:09] <paranoidandroid> crossing all fingers at once
[08:09] <paranoidandroid> looks kind of like spok
[08:09] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: hmmm possibly.. I wonder if network manager is trying to conflict with my static entry somehow
[08:09] <ForExampleJohn> trying to update software on my mobile
[08:09] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: if network manager is fighting with /etc/network/interfaces, that could potentially cause periodic issues, try disabling network manager and see if that resolves anything
[08:10] <paranoidandroid> aw crap have to enter encryption pw
[08:10] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: I admittedly didn't rtfm and just did my entry the old fashioned way.. lemme try that, thanks!
[08:10] <paranoidandroid> with fingers crossed
[08:10] <paranoidandroid> can it be done?
[08:10] <jamwat> Hopefully.
[08:11] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: no problem, I've got to go now unfortunately, but I wish you luck in your hunt
[08:11] <paranoidandroid> yyyeyeyeyeyeyeyeeyeseeesssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:11] <paranoidandroid> BOOOOMM!
[08:11] <paranoidandroid> gold is on the way sir
[08:11] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: No worries, thanks for talkign through it with me
[08:12] <jamwat> I found your reddit account
[08:12] <jamwat> http://www.reddit.com/user/Joshuasm32
[08:12] <jamwat> :D
[08:12] <paranoidandroid> haha
[08:12] <paranoidandroid> yes
[08:12] <paranoidandroid> gotten attached to that one
[08:12] <jamwat> If you don't feel like giving gold that's okay.
[08:12] <DarwinSurvivor> Stainedhat: one last hint. If you suspect unwanted suspending, run "watch 'date >> ~/log.txt'" and look for gaps in the timestamps
[08:12] <paranoidandroid> paranoidandroid is just to keep evil gamers off my back
[08:12] <paranoidandroid> its okay i'm guilder
[08:13] <jamwat> :D
[08:13] <paranoidandroid> see the classy trophy?
[08:13] <paranoidandroid> :D
[08:13] <paranoidandroid> one last thing before i go @everyone
[08:13] <paranoidandroid> is there a package that improves touch support in ubuntu?
[08:13] <jamwat> I don't think there's one that "improves" it.
[08:13] <Stainedhat> DarwinSurvivor: looks like nm isn't even installed so I may need to look elsewhere. I'll try echoing the date to the log and see if I see gaps. I guess that could tell me whether it's network or system. thanks
[08:14] <paranoidandroid> windows was full of gestures and there were ring around the places where there were taps
[08:14] <paranoidandroid> ubuntu is pathetic in that aspect, only tap for click is supported
[08:15] <DarwinSurvivor> paranoidandroid: the synaptics packages do all kinds of amazing magic
[08:15] <paranoidandroid> i looked around different results for touch
[08:15] <paranoidandroid> no luck so far...
[08:15] <DarwinSurvivor> paranoidandroid: for instance, I can scroll indefinitely by running my finger in a circle around the touchpad like an old-school iPod
[08:16] <DarwinSurvivor> paranoidandroid: wow, seeing the words "old-school iPod" makes me feel old :(
[08:16] <paranoidandroid> wow!
[08:16] <paranoidandroid> oh no i have one
[08:16] <jamwat> me too!
[08:16] <paranoidandroid> the only apple product i would not burn
[08:16] <paranoidandroid> do you guys have rockbox on it?
[08:16] <paranoidandroid> its an open sourced os
[08:17] <paranoidandroid> for ipod classic/90% of media players
[08:17] <jamwat> Nope. doesn't support iPod Nano 4th gen.
[08:17] <paranoidandroid> there is a port i think
[08:17] <paranoidandroid> i had to use emcore
[08:17] <paranoidandroid> a custom boot thing
[08:17] <paranoidandroid> and use another person's precious time in an irc :)
[08:17] <paranoidandroid> some terminal comands did it
[08:18] <daftykins> lets try and stay on topic peeps, if not there's always #ubuntu-offtopic for all your rambling needs (:
[08:18] <jamwat> Anyway paranoidandroid, thanks for being patient with me :P
[08:18] <paranoidandroid> a port is here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodNano4GPort
[08:18] <paranoidandroid> now i'm done
[08:18] <paranoidandroid> oh no!
[08:18] <paranoidandroid> thanks for being patient with me
[08:19] <paranoidandroid> can't get gold right now, will tho srslyu
[08:19] <paranoidandroid> *srsly
[08:19] <jamwat> Thank you. I really appreciate it.
[08:19] <paranoidandroid> @darwinsurvivor what package did the scrollwheel thing?
[08:19] <paranoidandroid> that sounds amazing
[08:19] <lolbox> so is there any way to fix the screen freezing,i cannot watch videos or play games
[08:20] <lolbox> idk what is happening
[08:21] <DarwinSurvivor> paranoidandroid: My laptop runs arch ( https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics ), but the package should be available somewhere for Ubuntu as well
[08:21] <paranoidandroid> ah
[08:21] <paranoidandroid> okay, one last thing sorry guys
[08:21] <jamwat> Yeah?
[08:21] <paranoidandroid> on any ubuntu install i use, there are about 4 system error warnings
[08:21] <paranoidandroid> and one that comes 5 min after
[08:21] <paranoidandroid> is this normal?
[08:22] <daftykins> lolbox: what card?
[08:22] <paranoidandroid> maybe its a package i use
[08:22] <lolbox> 720m with optimus
[08:22] <lolbox> i have nvidia prime on
[08:22] <daftykins> lolbox: tried bumblebee?
[08:22] <lolbox> and nvidia 331
[08:22] <jamwat> type "sudo nano /etc/defaults/apport"
[08:22] <paranoidandroid> (warnings are on startup)
[08:22] <daftykins> paranoidandroid: it would be great if you could cut down on the spam by pressing enter less.
[08:22] <lolbox> i didn't try bumblebee yet
[08:22] <paranoidandroid> haha okay i will try to make longer messages :)
[08:23] <Name141> Is there a way to stop the 14.04 LTS reminder in 12.04 ?
[08:23] <jamwat> paranoidandroid, there should be a file called something like apport.conf in /etc/defaults
[08:23] <daftykins> lolbox: it's a worthy plan
[08:23] <lolbox> installing gnome shell currently to see if it is because of compiz
[08:23] <jamwat> Name141, go into the dash, type "Software and Updates" and select it
[08:24] <Name141> Also, how long does 12.04 have anyway?
[08:24] <paranoidandroid> the file is empty... just like that last one i tried editing!  I think i'll hold off for now XD
[08:24] <jamwat> There should be something about notifying about new versions. Select do not ask me
[08:25] <paranoidandroid> got to go, thanks for the help and for putting up with my excessive posting
[08:25] <Name141> Alright, I'll do that after the apt-get distro-upgrade is done installing
[08:25] <jamwat> Name141,  2017-04-26 is when support stops
[08:25] <cfhowlett> Name141, distro-upgrade??? or dist-upgrade
[08:25] <daftykins> Name141: it's dist-upgrade :P
[08:26] <Name141> ..yeah that
[08:26] <Name141> I installed 14.04 and it ran the tiny 8 GB hard drive out of space.
[08:26] <jamwat> Okay guys, I'm leaving now. I'll see you all again sometime.
[08:27] <cfhowlett> Name141, yep. should have gone with something lighter: lubuntu or xubuntu.
[08:27] <Name141> cfhowlett: I was lucky I found that on a CD to bring that machine back to life.
[08:27] <Name141> and that I had a hard drive in an old DISHNetwork DVR
[08:27] <Name141> that still worked after 10 years
[08:27] <cfhowlett> Name141, dude!  you got hacker skillz!
[08:28] <Name141> cfhowlett: I now miss all my WebTV friends I used to talk to on that DISHNetwork Player :(
[08:28] <Name141> and WCW..
[08:28] <Name141> I remember pausing Mondy Night Nitro
[08:28] <Name141> Monday*
[08:28] <Name141> but yeah anyway
[08:29] <introom> hi. a little bit ot. How can I set twitter to send *all* the tweets from users I followed to my mailbox?
[08:29] <introom> via some webapp or some local script are all welcome.
[08:30] <lolbox> i am back after installing gnome shell
[08:31] <lolbox> going to try playing a video to see if it freezes again
[08:46] <xjanec25> [A
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[08:49] <raidensnake> does anyone know why IP tables doesn't save the configuration when it reboots
[08:49] <raidensnake> iptables*
[08:50] <raidensnake> I keep losing my configuration
[08:50] <OerHeks> raidensnake, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Saving_iptables
[08:51] <magnulu> hello - I am trying to set up squeezeslave on 14.04 (more or less clean install), and somehow it has broken my audio!
[08:51] <magnulu> I can't see anything in the syslog
[08:51] <magnulu> what to do, from your point of view? I am at a loss on where to start looking
[08:54] <clone1> hii
[08:54] <raidensnake> this is the problem the file is there but every time it reboots the settings aren't being applied
[08:54] <OerHeks> magnulu, if i look at the downloadsite, squeezeslave is discontinued and now they make squeezeline ?https://code.google.com/p/squeezeslave/downloads/list
[08:55] <clone1> want help- i want to know how to start with my own linux distro
[08:56] <daftykins> clone1: this is a support channel for ubuntu, not making your own :)
[08:56] <daftykins> clone1: try ##linux perhaps
[08:56] <OerHeks> raidensnake, it is all there, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Configuration_on_startup
[09:01] <raidensnake> that doesn't help as there's only a single file with the settings.
[09:02] <raidensnake> all I have is /etc/iptables.rules
[09:13] <Lxus> Anyone know the command to make my home folder non private? need to get some files from my home folder onto my windows drive.
[09:14] <Lxus> have ext3/4 drivers installed and able to access the disk, but the home folders encrypted/private to protect my data apparently
[09:15] <Ben64> Lxus: what is in your home folder
[09:18] <alice_littleu> rhythem box cannot add music(mp3) to it,what should i do
[09:18] <Lxus> Ben64: Some games i installed via POL, i wanna move them to my windows drive so i don't have to redownload/reinstall when i change my linux distro
[09:21] <lapion> hello..
[09:21] <lapion> I have been having problem with utopic and usb3.0 harddrive
[09:23] <sacarlson> lapion: I think I already saw a bug filed on the kernel on utopic for usb3.0 problem,  if you want to add to it you may
[09:24] <Lxus> Ben64: any ideas?
[09:25] <Ben64> Lxus: i mean what do you see when you open your home folder in windows
[09:26] <Lxus> Ben64: only one document saying my home is unmountable to access my data, but i recall a command to make the folder public and mountable i just cant remember where or what it is
[09:27] <OerHeks> Lxus decrypting your home is a lot of work, i would make a folder under /opt/ to share with windows
[09:28] <Ben64> Lxus: well you can't do that in windows
[09:28] <raidensnake> had no choice but to edit the /etc/sysconfig/firewall to make the changes permenant
[09:28] <raidensnake> at least it worked
[09:29] <Lxus> Ben64: you can i've done it before i just can't remember where i seen it or how to do it. >.<
[09:30] <lapion> sacarlson, the only bugreport I found was from someone that problems with a usb3 device and decided to try it under a live disc
[09:30] <Lxus> OerHeks: good idea never even thought of that.
[09:30] <Lxus> Kudos :)
[09:30] <lapion> sacarlson, my bug is only with utopic
[09:31] <Ben64> Lxus: i really doubt there is a way to decrypt a linux home from windows
[09:32] <sacarlson> lapion: I see many bugs on usb3.0 including intel hardware bug that requires chip mask changes for failure to recover from suspend.  so best be more specific as to what problem and on what version of kernel
[09:32] <thanosme> hello everyone. I have installed ubuntu 14.04 and I have a problem with the mouse. It double clicks at random times and I cant control it
[09:32] <thanosme> Is there a fix to this?
[09:33] <chettikandathil> is there any way to find the target of a symlink?
[09:33] <daftykins> chettikandathil: yeah "ls -l" in its' path
[09:33] <daftykins> should show up
[09:35] <sacarlson> lapion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1358871
[09:35] <fingertips> How do I create a ppp interface on server?
[09:35] <chettikandathil> is it necessary to give the full path when a symlink is made using ln -s?
[09:36] <chettikandathil> or can i do like ln -s ./abc ~/abc
[09:37] <Ben64> chettikandathil: you should use full paths
[09:38] <daftykins> absolute references are better than relative references
[09:38] <chettikandathil> Ben64, daftykins thanks
[09:39] <Lxus> Ben64: No not from windows you decrypt on linux then when you mount the drive on windows its mounted
[09:45] <magnulu> OerHeks: yep
[09:46] <chettikandathil> i added a symlink successfully to /usr/bin . which points to an executable. however i don't get bash completion for the command. is there any extra procedure to get bash completion on an entry on /usr/bin ?
[09:47] <daftykins> chettikandathil: check permissions and ownership, also be sure you restart the terminal for completions sake
[09:49] <sacarlson> chettikandathil: bash completion?  it does start?
[09:50] <sacarlson> chettikandathil: the file would also require to be set executable but I should assume you already did that
[09:55] <chettikandathil> sacarlson, yeah. the symlink path was relative. fixed it and it works now. but don't know why it show any error first time. maybe bash_completion ate it.
[09:56] <sacarlson> chettikandathil: cool then it works now so don't swet it
[09:56] <daftykins> chettikandathil: lol, but we told you not to do it relative...
[09:57] <sacarlson> chettikandathil: ya the told you
[09:57] <chettikandathil> yeah. it was an older symlink.
[09:57] <Ben64> kind of curious why you have simlinks to stuff in /usr/bin when that should be in your path anyway
[09:58] <daftykins> Ben64: no the originals are in /home apparently
[09:58] <daftykins> so rather than add to PATH, symlinks are putting them in /usr/bin apparently
[09:58] <Ben64> well thats a big silly mess
[09:58] <daftykins> lol
[09:59] <daftykins> i wouldn't use non packages, let alone have something in my /home :(
[09:59] <daftykins> but ho-hum
[10:00] <chettikandathil> daftykins, i mean, i just expected to see the symlink in bash completion, even though the symlink path was wrong (which i didn't realize by the way)
[10:00] <daftykins> so you mean if you had /usr/bin/magicalprogram point to ~/magicalprogram - you thought typing "mag" then tab would complete to "magicalprogram" and it didn't?
[10:01] <Ben64> or you know... make ~/bin and it will automatically be added to PATH so it would work without making weird links
[10:02] <chettikandathil> actually it points to ~/magicalprogram right now. i did point to ./magicalprogram earlier
[10:02] <chettikandathil> and it didn't work then
[10:02] <fingertips> How do I create a ppp interface on server?
[10:03] <chettikandathil> Ben64, will do that.
[10:09] <Plink> Ding!
[10:09] <Plink> Hey all
[10:09] <daftykins> hello.
[10:09] <daftykins> do you have a question?
[10:10] <Plink> no just saying hi :)
[10:10] <daftykins> Plink: ok well please refrain in future as it's a support channel
[10:11] <Plink> alright
[10:13] <dimi> g'morning. what do I type in the terminal to upgrade tinyxml2?
[10:13] <jamswat> test
[10:14] <EriC^^> dimi: sudo apt-get install --only-upgrade <package>
[10:14] <Plink> im guessing Sudo
[10:14] <dimi> thanks eric^^
[10:14] <EriC^^>  np
[10:14] <kuruk1> hi all
[10:15] <EriC^^> hello
[10:15] <dimi> hm, eric^^: "Unable to locate package tinyxml2"
[10:15] <EriC^^> !info tinyxml2
[10:15] <OerHeks> dimi, tinyxml2 on github is 2.2.0, in Utopic is tinyxml2 2.1.0 .. so wait for packagers to update
[10:15] <EriC^^> !find tinyxml
[10:15] <Ben64> dimi: if you do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it will upgrade all your packages
[10:16] <OerHeks> github version is 17 days old
[10:16] <dimi> okay, ben64
[10:17] <dimi> I thought ubuntu did that anyway every few days, ben64? I was told my tinyxml2 was very, very outdated. what could cause this?
[10:17] <Ben64> dimi: told by whom
[10:17] <daftykins> dimi: can you share "cat /etc/issue" please?
[10:17] <Ben64> dimi: and it's up to you to decide if updates are done automatically or if you have to do them
[10:17] <dimi> one of the desurium developers. i tried to build it and it game me two errors, ben64
[10:18] <dimi> hold on daftykins
[10:18] <dimi> daftykins: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[10:19] <daftykins> ah, decently supported version then.
[10:19] <daftykins> dimi: just run the dist-upgrade as suggested then, hopefully that'll be new enough for whatever you're trying to use
[10:19] <EriC^^> dimi: also try sudo apt-get update before the dist-upgrade
[10:20] <dimi> okay, eric^^
[10:21] <dimi> i'll try to build desurium again--there goes another 2 hours :P-- and find out if this worked! thanks daftykins, eric^^, ben64
[10:21] <OerHeks> next release Vivid will have the latest 2.2.0 http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/vivid/tinyxml2
[10:21] <EriC^^> dimi: which version do you need?
[10:22] <EriC^^> would this work libtinyxml2-dev?
[10:22] <EriC^^> !info libtinyxml2-dev trusty
[10:22] <EriC^^> !info libtinyxml2-dev
[10:22] <dimi> eric^^, the dev told me : "tinyxml2::XMLDocument::Parse function requirest at least 2.0.1, which ubuntu doesn't provide for 14.04"
[10:22] <Ben64> dimi: why build it? you could use this ppa, still unsupported but definitely easier https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/ubuntu/desurium-stable
[10:23] <EriC^^> dimi: ok, utopic provides it
[10:23] <dimi> i didn't know that was an option, ben64
[10:23] <EriC^^> you could add the source, install it, and then remove the source
[10:23] <Ben64> dimi: you should always check for easier ways to do stuff
[10:23] <EriC^^> dimi: ( if it doesn't pull any other dependencies )
[10:24] <dimi> thanks eric^^. ben64, ya, I guess, I just don't know where to look for this stuff
[10:24] <Ben64> 1. ubuntu repositories        2. PPAs         3. compile yourself            4. something else
[10:24] <EriC^^> nevermind
[10:24] <EriC^^> that sounds like a bad idea
[10:24] <EriC^^> cause other packages might want exactly the trusty version
[10:25] <dimi> huh, the terminal tells me that library's already upgraded. i'll get back to the dev, see what they say, and try the ppa in the meantime.
[10:25] <dimi> thanks everyone
[10:25] <sennn> .net opensource now!!!!
[10:30] <daftykins> sennn: welcome to last week's news
[10:30] <sennn> ok,then
[10:30] <cfhowlett> sennn, have you an actual support question?
[10:30] <sennn> no
[10:34] <dimi> the ppa worked, thanks, ben64 ^^
[10:34] <Xano> I installed Apache2 and PHP5 with "--with-apxs2". There is a mods-enabled/php5.load with a timestamp that indicates it was created when PHP5 was built. There is  a PHP5.conf in there that links *.php files to the PHP parser. However, Apache serves PHP files as plain text and does not execute them as PHP code. I'm not really sure where to look for the cause of this.
[10:35] <ikonia> Xano: deinfe I installed with "--with-zpxs2" do you mean you compiled it ?
[10:35] <Xano> ikonia: yes
[10:35] <ikonia> Xano: then you'll need to deal with it - there are ubuntu packages that will configure it all fo ryou
[10:37] <Plink> so we can do C#.net in Ubuntu soon?
[10:37] <ikonia> Plink: there is mono
[10:37] <ikonia> research mono
[10:37] <Xano> ikonia: Well, I obviously cannot deal with it myself, which is why I am on IRC asking for directions...
[10:37] <Plink> i know mono is there
[10:37] <ikonia> Xano: then you shouldn't have compiled it
[10:37] <daftykins> Xano: the point is we support official packages, not your own attempts :)
[10:37] <ikonia> Xano: why did you not use the packages provided and supported by uubntu
[10:38] <Xano> ikonia: So you never do things you have never done before, so you can learn? And when you do, you never ever look to people around you to see if they can give you a nudge in the right direction?
[10:38] <ikonia> Xano: all the time,
[10:38] <ikonia> Xano: why did you not use the ubuntu packages
[10:39] <cfhowlett> Xano, *nudge* use ubuntu packages.
[10:39] <Xano> ikonia: Then please watch what you say. I know what you mean, but to someone new to OSS what you said could potentially sound very arrogant like "You're not doing it out way, now piss off".
[10:39] <ikonia> it's fine if you don't want to, the channels #httpd and ##php will support your custom builds
[10:39] <Xano> ikonia: I needed extensions that weren't available as packages
[10:39] <ikonia> Xano: no it doesn't sound like that
[10:40] <ikonia> Xano: try #httpd and ##php
[10:40] <ikonia> as they support the generic software
[10:40] <ikonia> they can help you with your custom builds
[10:40] <Xano> ikonia: WIth all due respect, if there is one thing I learned in life is that you can never know how what you say sounds like to someone else, in another part of the world, who may not speak your language and especially over the internet ;)
[10:41] <daftykins> Xano has a point there.
[10:41] <daftykins> ikonia: you've been sounding like me for quite a while ;)
[10:41] <Plink> i like Xano
[10:41] <Xano> ikonia: I'm not trying to piss you off, sorry if that was the case
[10:41] <ikonia> Xano: with all due respect, this channel is #ubuntu for ubuntu support issues, you are not using ubuntu software, you are using your own software, which I suggest you use #httpd and ##php for the generic custom builds
[10:41] <Xano> ikonia: I have learnt these things the hard way by haning out in IRC channels for years myself. I just wanted to share some potentially useful advice
[10:42] <Xano> ikonia: Oh, I know, and I'll happily ask elsewhere as well. You sometimes just don't know what knowledge might be available in related channels.
[10:42] <ikonia> Xano: yes, "related" channels being the key
 How to cross compile for Windows when I'm on Linux?
 I've got a makefile BTW
[10:43] <Plink> Its related. if feel this channel is our Home, The users of UBUNTU. Made by PEOPLE, Used By PEOPLE, then we got ungreatful ones
[10:43] <MMukherjee> I'm on Ubuntu Linux 14.10
[10:43] <ikonia> MMukherjee: you don't do that
[10:43] <ikonia> Plink: not sure what thats about, but please keep it out of the channel
[10:43] <MMukherjee> Why?
[10:43] <MMukherjee> I want to cross-compile the makefile
[10:44] <ikonia> MMukherjee: you don't do that
[10:44] <Plink> you keed your hate out of Channel!
[10:44] <MMukherjee> GNU make is what I've got
[10:44] <ikonia> MMukherjee: I understand that,
[10:44] <Jookia> MMukherjee: You can do that using MinGW
[10:44] <ikonia> MMukherjee: however you don't cross-compile windows software on linux
[10:44] <MMukherjee> ?
[10:45] <ikonia> MMukherjee: what linux distribution are you using
[10:45] <Jookia> ikonia: Perhaps not in production, but it's excellent for development. :)
[10:45] <MMukherjee> ?
[10:45] <MMukherjee> Ubuntu 14.10
[10:45] <fingertips> How do I create a ppp interface?
[10:46] <ikonia> MMukherjee: what is the software you want build
[10:46] <MMukherjee> https://github.com/Sauerworld/Community-edition/
[10:48] <ikonia> MMukherjee: so that looks like it's going to need ming support on windows
[10:48] <Jookia> ikonia: Does it?
[10:48] <ikonia> Jookia: certainly does to me
[10:48] <ikonia> looks like it's going to use it for display
[10:49] <MMukherjee> >.<
[10:49] <MMukherjee> I assume it's impossible.
[10:49] <Jookia> ikonia: From what I can see it can use MinGW to cross compile
[10:49] <ikonia> no,
[10:49] <ikonia> Jookia: yes,
[10:49] <Sunstream> what is +q?
[10:49] <ikonia> Sunstream: a mute
[10:49] <Sunstream> make someone shut up ikonia ?
[10:50] <Sunstream> ok
[10:50] <Jookia> Sunstream: mean
[10:50] <daftykins> it wouldn't be a very good support channel if the volunteers were muted.
[10:50] <Jookia> MMukherjee: It's probably possible to cross compile Sauerbraten from Linux to Windows. But whether you want to do it is another question you should think long and hard about
[10:51] <MMukherjee> I think I should compile that using MinGW for Windows
[10:51] <ikonia> it does have some notes about the cross-compile toolchain
[10:51] <ikonia> but it looks like it will need a fair ammount of setup
[10:51] <Jookia> ikonia: This is true
[10:51] <ikonia> documentation isn't really the best
[10:52] <Jookia> However
[10:52] <Jookia> It may be more painful to use MinGW on Windows to build
[10:52] <Jookia> Because you'd be doing it in Windows without a shell
[10:52] <ikonia> MMukherjee: there is the channel #sdos on the gamesurge IRC channel, there maybe some people who have done the build for windows and know how to make it easier from their experience
[10:53] <ikonia> I think you'll struggle to cross-compile it without a lot of effort,
[10:53] <cfhowlett> Sunstream, no need for all that.
[10:53] <MMukherjee> hmmmm 'kk
[10:53] <Jookia> The worst part about across compiling is the lack of dependencies
[10:54] <ikonia> MMukherjee: maybe worth asking, it looks like it's designed with a cross-compile in mind, but the build chain looks not straight forward and the documentation isn't really %100 clear
[10:54] <ikonia> so there would be some trial and error unless you already know what's needed
[10:54] <MMukherjee> hmmm 'k.
[10:54] <MMukherjee> I will ask 'em
[10:54] <Jookia> If you've got a day to set aside, it looks certainly doable. But then again, Windows. :)
[10:55] <Sunstream> ? I asked for what +q mean I was just being silly I am sorry cfhowlett.
[10:55] <cfhowlett> Sunstream, OK.  moving on now ...
[10:56]  * Sunstream goes to bed night all.
[11:04] <chris87l> hi@all. does anyone know how i can look up my previous bug reports unter xubuntu. in ubuntu there is a button for the previous reports ...    the link should be like https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/"some numers and letters"        i'm serching for this button or a method how i can find out the numerbs and letters for my system
[11:05] <ikonia> chris87l: launchpad.net and the "my bugs" search
[11:05] <chris87l> but only if i have a account there isn't it? i have no account
[11:05] <ikonia> chris87l: you must have an account, or you couldn't log bugs
[11:06] <EriC^^> chris87l: settings > privacy > diagnostics > show previous reports
[11:06] <EriC^^> chris87l: that's on unity, should be similar on xubuntu
[11:06] <chris87l> it's the automatic bug report system with apport and whoopsie
[11:06] <chris87l> oh ok then i'll serch for that
[11:07] <zonov_roman> Hello everyone
[11:07] <chris87l> thanks eric^^
[11:07] <EriC^^> hello zonov_roman
[11:07] <EriC^^> chris87l: np
[11:07] <zonov_roman> Can somebody help me?
[11:07] <zonov_roman> Who is Click Store developers?
[11:07] <zonov_roman> And reviewers?
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !help | zonov_roman
[11:08] <ikonia> zonov_roman: what's the actual problem
[11:11] <chris87l> @eric^^: this option is not available in 13.10... some other clues how to reach that link?
[11:11] <ikonia> 13.10 is dead
[11:11] <ikonia> so there won't be any new tools for it
[11:12] <ScrappyCocco> who can help me?
[11:12] <ikonia> ScrappyCocco: we don't know who until you ask a question
[11:12] <cfhowlett> !ask | ScrappyCocco,
[11:12] <cfhowlett> ScrappyCocco, no questions asked = no help offered
[11:13] <Prezident> !patience
[11:13] <ScrappyCocco> i'm on windows now, and i have c: and d:, i have made a new logical partition and i have installed ubuntu in the logical, but where i have to instal the boot loader?
[11:13] <MMukherjee> For compiling for Windows on Ubuntu with Mingw (64-bit) I will require ming-w64 pkg. right?
[11:13] <EriC^^> chris87l: hold on, i tried mine and i'm searching for it
[11:13] <ikonia> ScrappyCocco: are you using wubi ?
[11:13] <ScrappyCocco> no ikonia
[11:13] <Prezident> wubi is not devoloping anymore so not recomending using that
[11:13] <ScrappyCocco> i an not using wubi
[11:13] <ikonia> ScrappyCocco: ok - so the boot sector will go on the boot disk mbr
[11:14]  * cfhowlett wishes canonical would stop packaging wubi with the .iso's
[11:14] <ScrappyCocco> boot disk mbr?
[11:14] <chris87l> yes but that link for automatic reported bugs should still exist. does anyone know how that number is created? the number behind https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/"this section" ??? it looks like a sha512sum or something like it
[11:14] <ScrappyCocco> what is it ikonia
[11:14] <ikonia> ScrappyCocco: how many physical disks do you have ?
[11:14] <ScrappyCocco> 1
[11:14] <ScrappyCocco> lol
[11:14] <ikonia> ScrappyCocco: ok, so it goes on the master boot record of that disk
[11:14] <ikonia> ScrappyCocco: the installer will detect and install that for you normally without any interaction
[11:14] <ScrappyCocco> probably it's windows c:
[11:14] <ikonia> ScrappyCocco: no
[11:15] <ikonia> ScrappyCocco: that is a partition
[11:15] <ScrappyCocco> ok sorry
[11:15] <ScrappyCocco> ok i will try
[11:15] <ScrappyCocco> thanks
[11:15] <ikonia> ScrappyCocco:  the installer will do it for you
[11:15] <ScrappyCocco> ok
[11:15] <ScrappyCocco> thanks
[11:15] <chris87l> @eric^^: ok i'm waiting
[11:16] <canh> hi i'm new with irc, any tips for beginner?
[11:16] <Prezident> What tips you need?
[11:16] <ikonia> !guidelines | canh
[11:16] <ikonia> canh: that will explain how to use the ubuntu IRC channels
[11:17] <canh> thanks :D
[11:21] <michele993> hi guys
[11:21] <jamswat> Hello.
[11:21] <michele993> how to backup all the system on a cd/dvd then it's bootable?
[11:22] <EriC^^> chris87l: nothing is showing up til now searched /var and /etc
[11:22] <ikonia> michele993: while there are tools/apps that help with this, that's actually quite complex when you think about it
[11:22] <ikonia> michele993: your systme will be larger than 4GB normally
[11:22] <EriC^^> michele993: all system to dvd?
[11:22] <michele993> yes eric
[11:22] <michele993> hi eric ^-^
[11:22] <ikonia> michele993: so you need to make your system compress using file systems such as squashFS
[11:23] <EriC^^> hi michele993 :)
[11:23] <ikonia> michele993: then you need the boot system to decomcompress that on demand
[11:23] <michele993> i solve the problem of kworker :D
[11:23] <EriC^^> michele993: haha thats great :D
[11:23] <michele993> i'm haker xD
[11:23] <EriC^^> haha :D
[11:23] <Prezident> XD
[11:23] <michele993> i set the luminosity of the startup
[11:24] <EriC^^> michele993: i wanted to tell you about that
[11:24] <michele993> and the sound of the startup
[11:24] <EriC^^> .profile worked!
[11:24] <EriC^^> i tried it and you left that one time
[11:24] <michele993> i'm here
[11:27] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:28] <basil1x> 'Lo, BluesKaj
[11:28] <BluesKaj> Hi bas
[11:28] <BluesKaj> basil1x, rather :)
[11:28] <michele993> morning
[11:28] <basil1x> 'bas' will do. ;)
[11:29] <BluesKaj> :)
[11:31] <Guest96670> does anyone know how to get the  mfc-j470dw scanner working in ubuntu 14.10 ? i can get print side working but just cant get scanner to work
[11:41] <michele993> eric
[11:41] <EriC^^> michele993: yes?
[11:41] <michele993> skype don't login with microsoft account
[11:41] <michele993> skype 4.3
[11:43] <EriC^^> michele993: hmm
[11:44] <EriC^^> michele993: try to sign in to outlook.com
[11:45] <michele993> it's not a problem of password or username
[11:45] <ikonia> how is it an ubuntu problem ?
[11:45] <michele993> because it show to me a message when i click
[11:45] <EriC^^> michele993: what's the msg?
[11:45] <michele993> slow connection
[11:46] <michele993> don't appear the textbox
[11:46] <Prezident> You use mobile internet?
[11:46] <basil1x> .clear
[11:47] <Prezident> basil1x: try /clear & /clear -all or /buffer clear -all /buffer clear.. / regards
[11:47] <michele993> no wifi of my home
[11:47] <Prezident> You got lower then 10% signal? Then you can get such mess.
[11:47] <basil1x> I got it.  Just hit the wrong key, Prezident
[11:47] <Prezident> No matter microsoft / *nix
[11:48] <Prezident> basil1x: ok.
[11:48] <michele993> no i'm near the modem
[11:48] <Prezident> Why not use network cable then? Allways more stable.
[11:48] <michele993> nono wifi
[11:48] <bekks> michele993: A modem does not provide wifi.
[11:49] <michele993> sorry router
[11:49] <michele993> :D
[11:49] <bekks> And being near a wifi AP/router, doesnt mean you have a "good" connection.
[11:49] <michele993> it's my notebook
[11:49] <cfhowlett> michele993, can't login to skype = ##microsoft issue --- not ubuntu issue
[11:49] <Prezident> Alright, sure i got it.. But did you try skype with network cable instead for trouble shooting?
[11:50] <Prezident> Does it solve your slow connection error message?
[11:50] <michele993> i haven't the cable lol
[11:50] <michele993> i think that the version of skype it's not ok
[11:50] <Prezident> Are you sure? The provider of router allways give you atleast 1 cable.
[11:51] <Prezident> Why would that make any prob with connection? I cant see why that would make any sense.
[11:51] <michele993> fewer cable it's too good
[11:51] <daftykins> you're saying use a network cable to diagnose skype connection issues? lol.
[11:51] <Prezident> daftykins: why not
[11:51] <Prezident> Since its 100% stable. Wifi can be unstable.
[11:52] <daftykins> thanks for putting a smile on my face :)
[11:52] <Prezident> drop packets etc.
[11:52] <michele993> i view the video 1080p on youtube without problem -.-
[11:52] <EriC^^> michele993: try to reinstall skype
[11:52] <michele993> it's not a problem of slow connection
[11:52] <EriC^^> michele993: sudo apt-get install --reinstall skype
[11:52] <michele993> ok
[11:52] <OerHeks> michele993, some have succes with " delete <home_dir>/.Skype 2. restart skype and login. " http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Can-t-sign-in-Ubuntu-12-04/td-p/838226
[11:52] <michele993> ty eric you are the best
[11:53] <Prezident> daftykins:
[11:53] <Prezident> http://community.skype.com/t5/Windows-desktop-client/Trouble-with-slow-connection-with-Skype-and-Windows-8-Pro/td-p/1920261
[11:53] <Prezident> Same error just diff os
[11:53] <daftykins> Prezident: no thanks, not relevant to me.
[11:53] <daftykins> no more highlights please
[11:53] <Prezident> So then shut up! :)
[11:53] <michele993> wait
[11:55] <daftykins> Prezident: you need to be called out on your ridiculous ideas :)
[11:55] <Prezident> Do not hi-light me neither then daftykins, put me on ignore and we both are happy.
[11:55] <daftykins> oh my, such twisted underwear today.
[11:56] <michele993> do not fight
[11:56] <Prezident> We do not fight, just see things from different views. He says im wrong i proove me correct, he wont read.
[11:56] <Prezident> Stupidness, well enough abou tthis.
[11:57] <Prezident> Did reinstall help michele993 ?
[11:57] <michele993> sorry same problem reinstalling skype
[11:57] <michele993> now i show you the message
[11:57] <OerHeks> michele993, did you reinstall without purge?
[11:57] <Prezident> Gr8
[11:57] <EriC^^> michele993: try what OerHeks suggested, rm -r ~/.Skype
[11:57] <zacarias> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntustudio in dual boot with mac os. I have never had any problems before. But now, no matter what I do, I always end up with an error message saying that it couldn't install the bootloader. Any help?
[11:58] <michele993> rm -r ~/.Skype do nothing
[11:58] <OerHeks> michele993, and restart skype as i wrote earlier
[11:58] <michele993> impossibile to remove
[11:58] <EriC^^> michele993: it erased the directory that has the config
[11:58] <michele993> directory do not exist
[11:58] <EriC^^> michele993: what do you mean?
[11:58] <michele993> ah okok
[11:58] <EriC^^> michele993: is the S capital?
[11:59] <michele993> i've solved
[11:59] <michele993> ^_^
[11:59] <OerHeks> have fun :-)
[12:00] <michele993> i had set i don't accept
[12:00] <Prezident> Enjoy :-)
[12:00] <michele993> the condition
[12:00] <michele993> for error
[12:00] <michele993> :)
[12:00] <ubuntu-gnome> cw=Z]O|RSNeQ#OQQ-A3
[12:00] <zacarias> (zacarias) Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntustudio in dual boot with mac os. I have never had any problems before. But now, no matter what I do, I always end up with an error message saying that it couldn't install the bootloader. Any help?
[12:01] <felon> k3b wont burn mp3? wave only ?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> !mac | zacarias, you have to follow the mac install instructions specific to your machine.
[12:01] <daftykins> felon: you'll have to decode them first probably
[12:02] <michele993> can't do videocall?
[12:02] <felon> isent there another program that can burn mp3 format in ubuntu 14.04LTSS?
[12:03] <cfhowlett> felon, brasero
[12:03] <OerHeks> felon, to burn mp3 you need the lame codec package AFAIK
[12:04] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, yep
[12:04] <EmsY> hey guys! Do you know any macbook or apple server on irc? I have a whit screen of death :(
[12:04] <felon> heh even with Brasero?
[12:04] <BluesKaj> or wodim in the terminal
[12:04] <k1l_> !codecs | felon
[12:04] <cfhowlett> felon, of course.
[12:04] <felon> ok ty
[12:05] <bekks> EmsY: #MacOSX
[12:05] <cfhowlett> felon,  the only package that *might* not need lame is vlc player but IDK if VLC can extract .mp3
[12:05] <daftykins> !alis | EmsY
[12:05] <EmsY> bekks: thanks
[12:05] <felon> i have vlc
[12:05] <daftykins> EmsY: sounds like your disk is toast
[12:06] <felon> i should be able to apt-get install AFAIK
[12:06] <felon> ?
[12:06] <felon> or is it not in the dep
[12:07] <k1l_> vlc got own codecs shipped. please read the links the bot gave you they explain what to do
[12:07] <felon> okay
[12:07] <mi3ya> join #ubuntu
[12:07] <Prezident> You are already in #ubuntu mi3ya.
[12:09] <OerHeks> felon AFAIK is short for 'as far as i know'
[12:11] <RustinCohle> Hello guys, when trying to connect to a local Mac via ssh with my Ubuntu, I get this error msgs: /etc/ssh/ssh_config "Bad configuration option: permitrootlogin" and "Bad configuration option: usepam" is it normal to turn ON PermitRootLogin? And I don't know what "UsePAM" is.
[12:14] <ikonia> RustinCohle: is that from the default ubuntu configuration file or have you changed it
[12:14] <Ben64> ikonia: definitely not from the default
[12:14] <ikonia> Ben64: didn't think so
[12:15] <Ben64> those are sshd_config options
[12:15] <ikonia> yeah, that sounds like the mac
[12:17] <RustinCohle> ikonia: I haven't changed it yet because I need advise from you guys as it's the first time I'm doing this. So I get this messages on terminal while on Ubuntu, after I typed "ssh peter@peter-macbook"
[12:18] <ikonia> RustinCohle: that sounds like it's the mac sshd_config
[12:18] <ikonia> doesn't sound like the ubuntu client
[12:18] <ikonia> or you have changed the ubuntu ssh_config
[12:18] <RustinCohle> but why is it telling me /etc/ssh/ssh_config and not "sshd_config"?
[12:19] <ikonia> RustinCohle: is there a permit root option in your ssh_config ?
[12:19] <Ben64> RustinCohle: really sounds like you messed with /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[12:19] <RustinCohle> ikonia: yes in my /etc/ssh/ssh_config from my Ubuntu computer PermitRootLogin is set to "no" and UsePAM is set to "no" too
[12:20] <ikonia> RustinCohle: then you have changed it
[12:20] <ikonia> as those are sshd_config options, not ssh_config
[12:20] <RustinCohle> So do I remove them or do I just turn them to "yes"?
[12:20] <ikonia> or you are looking at sshd_config and not noticed
[12:20] <ikonia> RustinCohle: how did they get there ?
[12:20] <RustinCohle> no no it's really ssh_config and not sshd_config
[12:20] <OerHeks> i have no Permitrootlogin too, to confirm.
[12:21] <ikonia> in ssh_config ?
[12:21] <ikonia> not sshd_config
[12:21] <Ben64> RustinCohle: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[12:21] <RustinCohle> yes sir
[12:21] <RustinCohle> just a sec
[12:22] <zy3pD> which pacakge provides apt-add-repository ?
[12:22] <bekks> !file /usr/bin/apt-add-repository
[12:22] <Ben64> software-properties-common: /usr/bin/apt-add-repository
[12:22] <bekks> !file apt-add-repository
[12:23] <zy3pD> bekks, ich glaub das wird nichts ;)
[12:23] <OerHeks> try !find
[12:23] <bekks> !find apt-add-repository
[12:23] <eblip> RustinCohle: restart ssh on  your machine
[12:23] <zy3pD> thx
[12:23] <bekks> zy3pD: You can search package.ubuntu.com as well
[12:24] <eblip> try /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[12:24] <eblip> may be even /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[12:24] <Ben64> eblip: this issue has nothing to do with sshd
[12:25] <RustinCohle> Ben64: here is my /etc/ssh/ssh_config from my Ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/2F5VfwUb
[12:25] <michele993> hi guys
[12:25] <eblip> then restart ssh
[12:25] <ikonia> ssh is sshd
[12:25] <ikonia> so restarting sshd is pointless
[12:25] <eblip> no it isnt
[12:25] <michele993> how to make a button to show desktop as windows?
[12:25] <eblip> ssh is your client
[12:25] <bekks> RustinCohle: using the root account is not the ununtu way.
[12:25] <ikonia> eblip: do you understand what you are saying ?
[12:25] <eblip> sshd is your server
[12:25] <bekks> !root | RustinCohle
[12:25] <ikonia> restart ssh ??? how will typing ssh a second time change the config ?
[12:26] <eblip> im just making sure that the config they say they havent altered is kicked in
[12:26] <eblip> its my job ikonia
[12:26] <bekks> RustinCohle: PermitRootLogin is disabled because root cant even log in at all.
[12:26] <Ben64> RustinCohle: really strange that you have that in there
[12:26] <eblip> so please dont preach to an ssh troubleshooter
[12:26] <eblip> who can have their system working in seconds
[12:26] <eblip> rather than watch you guys flummox your way through
[12:26] <ikonia> eblip: you appear not to be a good trouble shooter
[12:26] <RustinCohle> So I shall remove this?
[12:27] <bekks> RustinCohle: No. Dont touch it.
[12:27] <bekks> RustinCohle: Login as user and use sudo to gain root privileges.
[12:27] <Ben64> bekks: you probably still have me on ignore, but if not, you're missing the issue
[12:27] <OerHeks> michele993, open systemsettings > appearance - tab behaviour 'add show desktop icon'
[12:27] <eblip> restart ssh ,,,,and then verify the error message
[12:27] <ikonia> why is there server side parametes in there
[12:27] <ikonia> OerHeks: you have a 14.04 default instal ?
[12:27] <RustinCohle> bekks: so "sudo ssh peter@petermacbook"?
[12:27] <ikonia> install
[12:27] <bekks> RustinCohle: No.
[12:27] <OerHeks> ikonia no 14.10
[12:27] <ikonia> RustinCohle: sudo !!! no
[12:28] <eblip> no rustinchhle if you have restarted ssh
[12:28] <RustinCohle> lol I'm kind of lost
[12:28] <bekks> RustinCohle: ssh user@host; after login use sudo
[12:28] <eblip> use  ssh -vvv perter@peternacbook
[12:28] <Ben64> RustinCohle: remove lines 50, 51, 52, 53
[12:28] <ikonia> OerHeks: can you verify if you have the root parameter in your ssh_config too
[12:28] <ikonia> RustinCohle: just dump sudo
[12:28] <ikonia> RustinCohle: you don't need to use sudo
[12:28] <eblip> the vvv will give a more verbose output
[12:28] <OerHeks> This is my ssh_config http://paste.ubuntu.com/9042486/
[12:28] <eblip> of error
[12:28] <ikonia> eblip: he doesn't need verbose output
[12:28] <eblip> ill tell him what he needs ikonia
[12:29] <eblip> you clearly dont know about these things
[12:29] <bekks> eblip: you are telling him nonsense, obviously.
[12:29] <ikonia> OerHeks: ok, perfect, you don't have the permitroot  line
[12:29] <ikonia> so that means %100 something has changed RustinCohle's config
[12:29] <ikonia> OerHeks: thank you for the verify
[12:30] <bekks> RustinCohle: OSX does not allow root login for good reasons. Login as user. In case of dire need to run commands that require root permissions, use after you logged in as user.
[12:30] <Bobbert2> bekks: you're completely missing the point
[12:30] <RustinCohle> bekks: if I do this "ssh user@host" I still get the two error messages :/ because I didnt remove them from ssh_config
[12:30] <Bobbert2> bekks: the issue is nothing to do with root or sudo at all, it is sshd config options for ssh client
[12:30] <ikonia> RustinCohle: remove the server lines from the ssh_config
[12:30] <ikonia> they shoulnd't be there - hence "bad config"
[12:30] <ikonia> I'd be concerned how they got there
[12:31] <RustinCohle> I'll pastebin my whole terminal
[12:31] <Ben64> RustinCohle: lines 50-53, remove them
[12:31] <ikonia> RustinCohle: no need
[12:31] <ikonia> just remove what Ben64 said
[12:31] <RustinCohle> okok
[12:32] <RustinCohle> 50 to 53 or just 50 and 53?
[12:33] <Ben64> 50 to 53 inclusive
[12:33] <michele993> thanks a lot
[12:33] <RustinCohle> OK so to make sure I'm removing: PermitRootLogin, ChallengeResponseAuthentication and UsePAM
[12:33] <Ben64> ikonia: got spam pm from estikes
[12:34] <Ben64> RustinCohle: and pubkey authentication
[12:34] <ikonia> Ben64: send me the info in pm
[12:34] <Prezident> How to fix so my switch between terminal windows is down instead of up of the terminal window?
[12:34] <Prezident> tabs i want down instead of up in gnome termial
[12:35] <Ben64> RustinCohle: all 4 of those are sshd_config options, really really weird to have in ssh_config, especially if you don't remember doing that
[12:35] <RustinCohle> Yes I've never touch this Ben64 as it's the first time I'm trying this stuff
[12:36] <ikonia> RustinCohle: just out of interest can you show me the output of uname -a
[12:36] <RustinCohle> shall I get a look at my sshd_config to make sure everything is clean in this too?
[12:36] <k1l_> Prezident: please rephrase
[12:36] <cyber37> Hi, i come here because i have a problem with my TOUCH SCREEN in the laptop, when you use the touche screen it work except on some applications .. like candy crush . in windows there is no problems .. i have made a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqR67EiIleE as you see when i click it doesn't invert the "boxes" i need to MOVE THE MOUSE for make it working
[12:37] <cyber37> Any ideas ? i think the problem is only with application who try to interpret the mouse moving.
[12:37] <cyber37> Did exist a TOOL for CONFIGURE the touch screeen ?
[12:37] <RustinCohle> ikonia: Linux peter 3.13.0-30-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 4 21:40:53 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:37] <ikonia> RustinCohle: perfect, so looks standard, thank you
[12:37] <Ben64> kind of old kernel
[12:38] <RustinCohle> no problem, do you want guys check my sshd_config?
[12:38] <OerHeks> cyber37, candy crush  on Ubuntu?
[12:38] <ikonia> Ben64: but sane version
[12:38] <Ben64> indeed, but i'm at 3.13.0-39
[12:38] <RustinCohle> well it seems my sshd_config doesnt exist
[12:38] <eric__> hi.. i need help on my ubuntu 14.10
[12:38] <ikonia> RustinCohle: in /etc/ssh ?
[12:38] <Ben64> RustinCohle: !? no /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[12:38] <RustinCohle> exactly.
[12:39] <ikonia> that's concerning
[12:39] <Ben64> RustinCohle: do you maybe... not have openssh-server installed?
[12:39] <k1l_> RustinCohle: is openssh-server installed?
[12:39] <RustinCohle> I just did "gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config" and it's totally blank
[12:40] <RustinCohle> hum it's not installed
[12:40] <bekks> RustinCohle: You are editing the wrong file.
[12:40] <k1l_> RustinCohle: install it.
[12:40] <k1l_> RustinCohle: the desktop doesnt have a ssh server installed as default. only the server version does
[12:41] <ikonia> well, don't install it if you don't need it
[12:41] <ikonia> RustinCohle: sounds like you are fine then
[12:41] <Ben64> weird to have sshd_config stuff in ssh_config and not even have an ssh server
[12:41] <Ben64> i'm puzzled as to how that happened
[12:41] <ikonia> Ben64: yes, that was my surprise
[12:41] <k1l_> well yes. if you dont need a running sshd dont install it :)
[12:41] <RustinCohle> alright, but just want to know to understand: why do I need openssh-server if my Ubuntu is going to be the client WHO connect to the server?
[12:41] <ikonia> RustinCohle: no, you don't need it
[12:41] <Ben64> RustinCohle: you absolutely don't in that circumstance
[12:42] <eric__> hello.. how does this go... how can i ask question :) sorry newbie here
[12:42] <ikonia> eric__: that simple, just ask a question and people will answer if they can
[12:42] <Ben64> eric__: yeah, just ask. try to give as much detail and information as possible
[12:42] <RustinCohle> Do I have to install an "openssh-client" or something similar instead?
[12:42] <eric__> thanks ikonia and ben
[12:42] <eric__> i installed ubuntu on an external HDD , i have windows 7 on the internal hdd.. so i have a dual boot now but evrytime i detached or remove the external hdd the GRUB cant find the boot records .. it cant boot :(
[12:42] <ikonia> RustinCohle: already instaled
[12:43] <RustinCohle> how to make sure it's up?
[12:43] <ikonia> eric__: so if you remove the disk, it can't read it
[12:43] <ikonia> eric__: it's because it reads the grub.conf from the ubuntu /boot partition
[12:43] <ikonia> RustinCohle: what's up ?
[12:43] <eric__> yah
[12:43] <bekks> RustinCohle: ssh client is a client, not a service.
[12:43] <RustinCohle> because I typed "openssh" and I got "openssh: command not found"
[12:43] <eric__> so how can i transfer it on  my C:\
[12:43] <Ben64> RustinCohle: the package is openssh, you use it by typing "ssh"
[12:44] <RustinCohle> alright get it
[12:44] <eric__> or what do u call that /sda
[12:44] <RustinCohle> so for now I should be able to connect to my server
[12:44] <ikonia> eric__: you can't
[12:44] <ikonia> eric__: it needs to read it from the ubuntu disk
[12:44] <Ben64> RustinCohle: yep
[12:44] <bekks> RustinCohle: No. You edited the wrong file.
[12:44] <RustinCohle> OK I'm trying it
[12:44] <RustinCohle> what
[12:44] <Ben64> RustinCohle: give it a try
[12:45] <bekks> RustinCohle: you tried to edit sshd_config which is irrelevant for your client.
[12:45] <RustinCohle> OK I'm trying again
[12:45] <eric__> @ikonia theres no way i could transfer it on an internal hdd so that even i dont have my external HDD attached i could still u my windows
[12:45] <bekks> and from what I got until now, you have two server config lines in ssh_client
[12:45] <ikonia> eric__: it wants to read your ubuntu /boot directory
[12:45] <RustinCohle> yes bekks but I edited ssh_config by removing the 3 lines as Ben64 told me
[12:45] <mi3ya> \\\
[12:45] <ikonia> eric__: so you'd need another ext partition on your local disk for a /boot
[12:45] <bekks> RustinCohle: Then you fine - and ssh user@host should work
[12:46] <RustinCohle> alright, testing right now
[12:46] <eric__> @ikonia . i could create a small partition from my internal .. is that what ur saying? and have the /boot on it?
[12:46] <ikonia> eric__: you'd have to copy the stuff across, and then re-apply / configure grub so it knows the partition has moved
[12:46] <eric__> @ikonia ,, i found this Grub Customizer.. can i use that
[12:47] <ikonia> eric__: I have no idea what that tool does and I personally have low opinions of grub config tools
[12:47] <RustinCohle> alright I've new issues, I'll go pastebin this
[12:47] <eric__> @ikonia ..sorry for this silly questions...  do u have any links on how to transfer my /boot folder
[12:48] <ikonia> eric__: I'm sorry I don't, and it's not a silly question, it's a good question
[12:48] <eric__> @ikonia  tnx :)
[12:49] <RustinCohle> bekks Ben64 is it OK to paste ip address and RSA key fingerprint?
[12:50] <Ben64> RustinCohle: i would block out that part
[12:50] <RustinCohle> OK I'll change this
[12:52] <RustinCohle> Ben64 bekks: now this is what I get from the terminal when trying to connect to the Macbook: http://pastebin.com/Mdye0dBb
[12:53] <RustinCohle> (I edited ip address and rsa key fingerprint)
[12:53] <ikonia> looks like the mac is trying to use public key auth
[12:54] <RustinCohle> FYI I turned Firewall OFF on the Mac, and allowed access to all users via Remote Login on the mac.
[13:47] <kamhagh> Hi, yesterday, i made a script that automatically does "sudo apt-get -y upgrade" at 3am, this morning i came and saw its stuck at "processing something trigger...." it sounded like it was stuck, and i didn't had keyboard around i pressed shutdown (on my computer) now it gets stuck at loading (xubuntu logo) and its always stuck in same place ! i pressed ctrl+alt+Fx it didn't work ! once i pressed shutdown it got unstuck and my pc shutd
[13:47] <kamhagh> i didn't hold the shutdown key! + if i press Ctrl+Alt+F1 before it gets stuck i can see a blackscreen but soon after that it gets stuck there
[13:47] <daftykins> !chroot | kamhagh do this from bootable media and repair your package state
[13:48] <kamhagh> daftykins: can you yell me how?
[13:48] <daftykins> i linked you to a guide on how.
[13:48] <kamhagh> oh its an command?
[13:48] <kamhagh> oh sorry
[13:48] <kamhagh> i didn't see last line
[13:48] <kamhagh> thanks :)
[13:48] <daftykins> make yourself a bootable USB, boot from it, then come back if you get stuck
[13:49] <kamhagh> let me read it
[13:49] <kamhagh> ok
[13:49] <kamhagh> so i boot from livecd and write this right?
[13:51] <kamhagh> ok let me boot will come back if had problems thanks
[14:04] <snowflakes> how to kill all process in a one command?
[14:05] <OerHeks> snowflakes, sudo shutdown -h now
[14:06] <snowflakes> that would restart my vps
[14:06] <kswiencki> hello all!
[14:06] <snowflakes> i cannot manual kill the process
[14:06] <snowflakes> i thnk my vps is comprimised.
[14:06] <OerHeks> snowflakes, you didn'tsay VPS
[14:06] <snowflakes> there are process that i ddnt run
[14:06] <snowflakes> so i assume my vps is comprimised.
[14:07] <snowflakes> when i do killall +9 perl
[14:07] <snowflakes> doesnt work because i thnk those process ddnt run in perl
[14:07] <rgb-one> doesnt +9 kill by pid
[14:07] <cfhowlett> rgb-one, indeed
[14:07] <snowflakes> rgb-one yep it kill all
[14:08] <snowflakes> but the proccess ddnt run in perl
[14:08] <cfhowlett> snowflakes, +9?  kill -9  PID
[14:09] <snowflakes> killall -9 perl
[14:09] <snowflakes> I thnk those pcocss ddnt run perl
[14:09] <snowflakes> I mean could manually kill the process pid one by one, bt thres so many of them
[14:10] <HoneyBooBoo> hey guys
[14:10] <snowflakes> is there any way to kill all process in a one blast
[14:10] <rgb-one> use ps -ef to see which processes are running
[14:10] <snowflakes> just like this command if i run all perl program and do killall -9 perl
[14:10] <HoneyBooBoo> i tried to install on my lenovo laptop several times ubuntu 14.04 ...but when i install it ..i get "Operation system not found"
[14:10] <rgb-one> kill the parent process to kill all preceeding processes
[14:10] <HoneyBooBoo> i think it has to do with grub
[14:10] <HoneyBooBoo> and uefi
[14:10] <snowflakes> it will kill all perl process that run n my box
[14:10] <HoneyBooBoo> can anyone point me in the right direction?  :/
[14:11] <HoneyBooBoo> windows 8.1 was installed on that laptop before ..but i thought ubuntu would delete it and override it
[14:11] <snowflakes> test     10420     1  0 Nov15 ?        00:06:49 -xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  <-- all process like this , tons of process like this one
[14:11] <cyber37> Hi, i come here because i have a problem with my TOUCH SCREEN in the laptop, when you use the touche screen it work except on some applications .. like candy crush . in windows there is no problems .. i have  made a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqR67EiIleE as you see when i click it doesn't invert the "boxes" i need to MOVE THE MOUSE for make it working Any ideas ? i think the problem is only with application who try to interpret the m
[14:11] <cfhowlett> !efi | HoneyBooBoo
[14:12] <cyber37> it's facebook candy crush but i have the same problem with other applications like google chrome (it have a non standard system for move the windows / close it ...) with the touchscreen it work badly
[14:12] <rgb-one> so the program you are running depends on perl right?
[14:15] <cyber37> who ?
[14:15] <cyber37> me ?
[14:16] <rgb-one> snowflake I think
[14:16] <amichair> Hi, is there a mysql-server-5.5 debug symbols package available for ubuntu 14.10?
[14:18]  * Prezident back
[14:23] <OerHeks> amichair, i cannot find mysql-server-5.5-dbgsym
[14:24] <superherointj> Hello.
[14:24] <Xano> Is the default PHP 5.5.9 package for 14.04 threadsafe?
[14:24] <superherointj> I am trying to install my Nvidia GTX780Ti card in Ubuntu but I don't how how to leave X.
[14:24] <superherointj> *know
[14:30] <progix> Hi folks! I have this (maybe dumb) question: How the hell do I properly uninstall adobe reader 9? purging doesnt work, neither does synaptic show the package(s). Google didn't help much neither
[14:31] <progix> purging the acroread or adobereader files didnt help
[14:32] <daftykins> progix: confirm packages present with "dpkg -l | grep thingtosearchfor"
[14:34] <progix> daftykins: thats the problem. its not finding anything.
[14:35] <Prezident> daftykins: rocks he will find a solution for ya i promise:-)
[14:36] <progix> daftykins: found it! thanks for your help
[14:36] <daftykins> progix: no problem :)
[14:42] <mercandier> bonjour, je souhaite savoir comment faire pour créer des raccourcis sur mon bureau.
[14:42] <mercandier> Merci
[14:42] <index> cest facile frero
[14:42] <mercandier> oui?
[14:42] <index> tu veux que te pass un tuto
[14:43] <mercandier> nokn juste savoir où se trouve l'icône pour lier, je ne connais pas le jargon geek
[14:43] <index> alors vas au bereau click sur betton droit
[14:43] <OerHeks> !english
[14:43] <OerHeks> !fr
[14:44] <mercandier> merci
[14:44] <index> click sur nouveau et puis racourssi
[14:44] <xxxax> gimmi the german ubuntu channel please
[14:45] <somsip> !de | xxxax
[14:45] <xxxax> thkx bot
[14:50] <rezno> SERVHELP
[14:50] <ikonia> rezno: just ask a question if you need help with ubuntu
[14:58] <lifex> error reporting window keep popup even if click cancel to send report, but it gone if choose the option to send, i'm not understand this..14.04.1
[14:59] <ikonia> it normally tells you what package is causing the error
[15:03] <lifex> think the system force user to send error report or it will repeatedly show Error Report Dialog
[15:07] <dingqiangyuan> hello
[15:07] <dingqiangyuan> is there anybody?
[15:08] <gcl5cp> totem's big icon is persistent http://askubuntu.com/questions/453145/ubuntu-14-04-totem-video-player-show-big-play-pause-icon-on-screen
[15:09] <gcl5cp> it appears in second video on playlist
[15:12] <Zteam> Hi all
[15:12] <noadobeflash> how can i download this video http://www.atresplayer.com/television/programas/en-el-aire/temporada-2/capitulo-1-22-09-14-santiago-segura_2014092600199.html# if i neither have adobe flash nor a paid subscription to the atresmedia service?
[15:13] <Zteam> I'm trying to change owner of all content in my home folder (which I'm backed up from my old account)
[15:14] <Zteam> is there any reason why this isn't working as expected? sudo chmod -rwx /home/joel/*
[15:15] <Zteam> it is supposed to change owner of all my files in home to joel, but it only seems to touch my desktop folder?
[15:16] <daftykins> Zteam: are you doing it whilst that path is in use?
[15:16] <daftykins> Zteam: also i'm not sure on that being appropriate, -r for recursion maybe, but not just having -wx
[15:17] <Zteam> daftykins, yes the path is in use (since that the account I'm running the command from)
[15:18] <Zteam> daftykins, oups, you are right about that one, I pasted the wrong line
[15:19] <daftykins> Zteam: :) indeed you want "sudo chown -R joel: /home/joel/" for example
[15:19] <Zteam> daftykins, exactly that was what I was trying in the first place
[15:20] <Zteam> daftykins, with this line sudo chown -Rv /home/joel/* | grep .mozilla/
[15:21] <Zteam> daftykins, that command touches my Desktop folder, but not the .mozilla folder for example, and I really don't get what I'm doing wrong?
[15:23] <daftykins> Zteam: you're typing chown but not specifying what user to set
[15:24] <daftykins> i don't think it's wise to be doing that on a logged in system
[15:24] <scriptpunkk> can i ask question on RE here
[15:25] <bekks> Whats "RE"?
[15:26] <Zteam> daftykins, true.... but I tried sudo chown -Rv /home/joel/* | grep .mozilla/ too, why wouldn't that work?
[15:26] <Wulf> Hi
[15:26] <bekks> Zteam: That will entirely break permissions
[15:26] <daftykins> Zteam: i don't really see what that command all as one thing is trying to achieve.
[15:27] <HappyNewYear13> when are going to get kernel 3.17?
[15:27] <Wulf> Will there be any updates ec2 images for trusty on http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/ ? When?
[15:27] <bekks> HappyNewYear13: With Ubuntu 15.04
[15:27] <daftykins> HappyNewYear13: only newer versions tend to get newer kernels
[15:27] <HappyNewYear13> bekks, wow! gonna have to wait so much
[15:27] <bekks> HappyNewYear13: Yeah, because Ubuntu isnt a rolling release distro :)
[15:27] <bekks> HappyNewYear13: Why do you need 3.17?
[15:28] <Zteam> daftykins, sorry, pasted the same line again lol here is the other one I tried sudo chown -Rv joel:joel /home/joel/* | grep .mozilla
[15:28] <OerHeks> HappyNewYear13, vivid will have 3.16 .. so 15.10 ?
[15:28] <Zteam> bekks, sorry pasted the wrong line
[15:28] <HappyNewYear13> bekks, want to improve my wifi, new driver might be better there or in 3.18
[15:28] <bekks> HappyNewYear13: "might"?
[15:28] <bekks> HappyNewYear13: Which issue do you have in particular?
[15:29] <OerHeks> oh 3.18 will be 16.04 maybe?
[15:29] <daftykins> Zteam: haha, delete the rest after * and you'll see that it *is* applying to all folders, just piping then grep'ing to .mozilla would only show the result for .mozilla i should think.
[15:29] <daftykins> Zteam: tell you what give us a "ls -al /home/joel/" in pastebin
[15:29] <daftykins> (paste.ubuntu.com)
[15:29] <bekks> OerHeks: Or 3.19, 3.20, I guess it 'll be 3.19/3.20
[15:30] <HappyNewYear13> bekks, yep. read some info in a forum. nothing, wifi works good but some stats are worrying me. but nothing serious. i like everyting to work perfect
[15:30] <bekks> HappyNewYear13: "some stats"?
[15:30] <bekks> HappyNewYear13: Could you be more detailed? :)
[15:30] <HappyNewYear13> bekks, dont worry friend
[15:31] <Zteam> daftykins, thank you , you were absolutely right, it was that * which made it behave that strange :p
[15:32] <daftykins> :)
[15:33] <Zteam> daftykins, I had done this succesfully multiple times before, but sometimes then I'm really tired my brain just segfaults :p
[15:34] <daftykins> Zteam: i know the feeling, the best is staring at samba configs and not noticing a typo. i love 'testparm' in those situations 8D
[15:35] <Zteam> daftykins, okey, u work as a sysadmin or something? :-)
[15:35] <daftykins> Zteam: yeah :)
[15:36] <Zteam> daftykins, okey nice job :-)
[15:36] <romero> :http://www.ubuntu.com
[15:37] <daftykins> romero: yep that's us, can we help?
[15:39] <Zteam> does anybody here know if there is a linux alternative to hdd regenerator?
[15:40] <chris27c> hi@all i've got a question about .crash-files. there are warnings not to send them because some could contain sensitive information like unames and passwd. but where can i check if a crash-file contains such information?
[15:41] <daftykins> Zteam: what does that do?
[15:41] <sacarlson> chris27c: you could grep for your passwords in the group of files to see if it might contain such things
[15:42] <sacarlson> chris27c: I've done that with projects I release to sometimes find my passwords in config files that are a part of the group
[15:43] <Zteam> daftykins, it repairs physically damaged sectors on a harddrive, by try to re-magnetize them again, I know it sounds like a total scam, but I hinted a friend with a bad hard-drive about it, and according to him it did work
[15:43] <daftykins> Zteam: that's definitely a complete scam. likely all this program did is force a hard disk to finish reallocating bad sectors. have you had a recent disk failure?
[15:44] <cfhowlett> Zteam, ehhh, scientifically I think that ranks with resetting your iphone by putting it in the freezer for 10 minutes
[15:44] <chris27c> if i open a crash-file with a editor there are sections which are readable and others not. so they are just in the readable part?
[15:44] <sacarlson> cfhowlett: hay that worked for me when I put my laptop in the frig it started working ha ha
[15:44] <cfhowlett> sacarlson, ... there's always one ...
[15:45] <sacarlson> cfhowlett: well it only worked for the day of for a few hours util it heated up again
[15:45] <bkuberek> hi
[15:45] <bkuberek> runnin 13.10 and I want to upgrade to 14.10. Should I do an upgrade or install from scratch?
[15:46] <sacarlson> bkuberek: in most cases I prefer from scratch but it depends on what software you might have on it
[15:46] <daftykins> bkuberek: backup either way then go nuts.
[15:46] <Zteam> daftykins, yes, I had, anyway I know it worked for a friend who used it, and yes, I'm very vell know that it could just had reallocted these sectors to the spare ones,
[15:47] <Frank_Jameso> bkuberek I like recommending a reinstall since it sort of forces people to back up their data somewhere, heh.
[15:47] <chris27c> sacarlson: if i go on a website with chromium und use my uname and passwd .... and the chromium crashes. so could it be that the login data from the website is in the chromium crash file?
[15:47] <daftykins> Zteam: have you checked the SMART data on said disk?
[15:48] <Zteam> daftykins, nope, he doesn't have that disk anymore, this was years ago
[15:48] <sacarlson> chromium does seem to keep my passwords in it someplace.  I'm not sure what format it keeps them in
[15:48] <daftykins> Zteam: i mean for yours
[15:49] <Zteam> daftykins, I also do know a freeware utility which claim to does the same thing, that's why I'm not really sure hdd regenerator actually is a scam
[15:50] <Zteam> daftykins, yes, It has  326 pending sectors, and it didn't even pass the short self test
[15:50] <chris27c> ok then i have to do something :D tanks 4 ur info
[15:50] <daftykins> Zteam: in that case i backup the data needed and zero fill the disk, to force the reallocations to complete. :)
[15:51] <daftykins> Zteam: for that many though, i wouldn't ever trust that disk again
[15:51] <noadobeflash> how can i download this video http://www.atresplayer.com/television/programas/en-el-aire/temporada-2/capitulo-1-22-09-14-santiago-segura_2014092600199.html# if i neither have adobe flash nor a paid subscription to the atresmedia service?
[15:51] <Zteam> daftykins, but I can still read (all?) of my data from the drive and it makes no strange noise whatsoever
[15:52] <daftykins> Zteam: that means nothing
[15:52] <daftykins> she's dead, Jim.
[15:52] <Zteam> daftykins, yes, but I don't have any drive big enough to back it up right now
[15:52] <daftykins> ah, unplug it and stop using it then :)
[15:52] <daftykins> even being on right now is a threat, but i'm sure you know this :)
[15:52] <cfhowlett> Zteam, it's dead, cap'n!
[15:53] <Zteam> daftykins, already did :-)
[15:53] <imfreakingout> hi, sorry i got disconnected
[15:55] <sacarlson> if anyone is interested I did find that one of my passwords is plain text is saved in Binary file ~/.config/google-chrome/Default/Login Data
[15:55] <sacarlson> and one other file in goog-chrome
[15:56] <imfreakingout> after shutting down with apt-get upgrade running on my ubuntu with xubuntu, it now gets stuck at splashscreen no keys like esc cntrl-alt-f1 or 2 or 3 work now! ca anyone help me please?
[15:57] <sacarlson> imfreakingout: must be the kernel so can't you get the old kernel to boot before upgrade
[15:57] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: :O what i should do now? sorry im a total noob
[15:57] <sacarlson> imfreakingout: it should still be in grub
[15:57] <Zteam> daftykins,here is that link incase you wanna read about that software http://hddregenerator.net/hdd-regenerator-works/
[15:57] <daftykins> imfreakingout: are you not the one i told to chroot earlier?
[15:58] <imfreakingout> daftykins: hmm, i couldn't figure out what to do with it, :| sorry
[15:58] <imfreakingout> daftykins: also i coulnd't understand why you told me to do it!
[15:59] <daftykins> imfreakingout: boot into a live session and come back on here from it :)
[15:59] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: what do you mean? i can chose anything i want in grub but not in xubuntu loading screen
[15:59] <imfreakingout> daftykins: ok ! sorry:D im making a usb bootable right now, i found out my old one was 32-bit xubuntu
[16:00] <ramborocks> hello
[16:00] <ramborocks> i just installed ubuntu yay!
[16:00] <Frank_Jameso> you did it!
[16:00] <sacarlson> imfreakingout: so you can get to grub menu?  I would think  you might be able to try boot the older smaller number kernel to see if it will at least boot ok
[16:00] <OerHeks> !yay
[16:01] <ramborocks> sounds like your xubuntu isnt on the root drive
[16:01] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: yes i can easily get to grub , thats how i booted to wiindows :) what should i do  from there?
[16:01] <ramborocks> i had same problem when i installed it just ignored mine. I had to say mount /
[16:01] <daftykins> sacarlson: why faff around when a chroot and completion of the package installs would be far wiser
[16:01] <ramborocks> i think it puts it on the mbr which then will allow grub to see it.
[16:02] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: oh you mean the recovery menu?
[16:02] <imfreakingout> btw can't get the installer to download :(
[16:02] <ramborocks> i had a clean install of open susu .. it kept not allowing me into the os just kept loading windows
[16:03] <sacarlson> imfreakingout: daftykins so is that what he did force it to shutdown before it finished?  I would still try it not knowing what state it's in
[16:03] <ramborocks> I did the install and choose 'another option' and then  used mount /
[16:04] <daftykins> sacarlson: roger that, i'm got to step away for a bit so you're welcome to take over :)
[16:04] <ramborocks> im no guru... just saying thats what i had to do so grub would recognize my install
[16:04] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: i shuted down from power menu before installing is compelete it was at trigerring something, it gets to grub and windows just fine, it just gets stuck at splash when booting to ubuntu
[16:05] <sacarlson> imfreakingout: well there should be the recovery and also maybe an older version of the kernel if it was upgraded with such.  it's worth a wack should only take moments to try
[16:05] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: lol this chat got so messy :D
[16:06] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: ok than, how should i do that?
[16:06] <FaThaL> uh.. guys can someone help me?
[16:06] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: oh woops i read it wrong
[16:06] <teward> FaThaL: how about you ask your actual question.  like what the problem is, what you expect to happen, etc.
[16:07] <sacarlson> imfreakingout: if you continue to have problems at that point then you might try what daftykins suggested that I assume would require a livecd boot then chroot
[16:07] <FaThaL> thank you
[16:07] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: i tried booting the older number (i guess 24 instead of 32) and it still got stuck
[16:07] <FaThaL> well, i'm a new user of ubuntu
[16:07] <daftykins> FaThaL: please ask a question on *one* line if possible.
[16:07] <FaThaL> i'm enjoying alot! but now, i'm just searching for a list of a FULL editions of ubuntu servers
[16:08] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: ok,when i got chroot what should i do after that? and if it fixed it, the chroot should be there forever? as i read it makes apps not able to run during boot
[16:08] <FaThaL> i mean, i need the minimum specs, and a list of the best 5 releases
[16:08] <daftykins> "best 5" ? what are you talking about
[16:08] <bekks> FaThaL: What are "fulll editions of servers"?
[16:08] <bekks> FaThaL: that doesnt make sense.
[16:09] <daftykins> FaThaL: there are only two long term support editions of ubuntu server currently supported, 12.04.5 and 14.04.1 - install one of those.
[16:09] <imfreakingout> lol i got ubuntu on my usb flash now
[16:09] <cordyceps> Anybody here used memtester to diagnose RAM faults?
[16:09] <FaThaL> thank you
[16:09] <FaThaL> i love you :D
[16:09] <bekks> FaThaL: Every Ubuntu release is released as "Ubuntu server" as well, and there are two LTS releases currently.
[16:09] <NikTh> daftykins: +1
[16:09] <bekks> cordyceps: What if?
[16:09] <cfhowlett> daftykins, you made friends!
[16:10] <sacarlson> imfreakingout: something like this http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/how-to-fix-non-bootable-ubuntu-system.html
[16:10] <cordyceps> explain output  to me
[16:10] <daftykins> cfhowlett: first time ever ;_; wait... you're my friend too - right?!
[16:10] <bekks> cordyceps: Which output do you get?
[16:10] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: thanks :) i will come here from livecd if i had anyproblems :P
[16:10] <sacarlson> imfreakingout: good luck
[16:10] <cordyceps> Nothing, says 'starting mlock' dot dot dot then bumps back to the prompt
[16:11] <cfhowlett> daftykins, yeah ... but I can't honestly claim to love you.   sorry.
[16:11] <trijntje_> cordyceps: it should look like this http://www.playtool.com/pages/memtest/memtest86.jpg
[16:11] <daftykins> cfhowlett: :D
[16:13] <NikTh> I have a problem , a sting in my .... for days now. I'm helping a friend of mine to "find his road" through nouveau, but 3D support doesn't work. (Ubuntu 14.04 - Unity)  - Nvidia 9600GT.
[16:14] <cordyceps> trijntje_: nope, not even close used $sudo memtester 1G 1
[16:14] <NikTh> Nvidia closed source drivers, result in black screen (4 different versions, all the same)
[16:15] <sacarlson> NikTh: I guess you will have to try the nvidia propriatary drivers.  but I see some others haveing some problems with those also so good luck
[16:15] <trijntje_> cordyceps: you should probably reboot and run memtest from the grub menu, I dont know about the program memtester you mention
[16:15] <bekks> cordyceps: use memtest86++ , instead of memtest
[16:15] <sacarlson> NikTh: oh black screen might be fixed with nomodeset
[16:15] <daftykins> NikTh: have you been advising downloaded drivers or the packaged ones in the ubuntu repos?
[16:16] <NikTh> Nouveau boots up with correct resolution only with "nomodeset"  , but no 3D support.
[16:16] <daftykins> sacarlson: that's paradoxical, nomodeset on prevents nvidia load :)
[16:16] <cordyceps> this is way more convenient - if it would work ;(
[16:16] <imfreakingout> hey, weirdest thing, now i said let me try the lower version one more time now i got into low-graphics mod of ubuntu, its also very slow :| what should i do now?
[16:16] <daftykins> NikTh: nouveau isn't in use with nomodeset on.
[16:16] <NikTh> I don't know what is going on, I know nouveau support this Nvidia model very well.
[16:16] <imfreakingout> not becasue its slow to get my ubuntu back :D
[16:17] <NikTh> daftykins: without nomodeset , the same black screen occurs
[16:17] <daftykins> NikTh: is your friend having to install from a liveCD that was booted with nomodeset on?
[16:17] <NikTh> daftykins: Yes
[16:17] <sacarlson> daftykins: so you saying that with nomodeset you can't run propriatary nvidiea software?
[16:17] <daftykins> NikTh: that means the installed version then has it set permanently, you'd need to install an nvidia driver package then take nomodeset out of the kernel command line - were you doing that already?
[16:17] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: weirdest thing, now i said let me try the lower version one more time now i got into low-graphics mod of ubuntu, its also very slow :| what should i do now? to get my Ubuntu back to normal! should i run upgrade again?
[16:18] <daftykins> sacarlson: correct, it's a kind of 'fallback' driver in a way
[16:18] <daftykins> sort of like vesa but not, i think
[16:18] <NikTh> Yes, we tried that way. Removed the "nomodeset" option from /etc/default/grub, but to no avail. Same black screen always.
[16:19] <NikTh> I thought "nomodeset" just matters for the TTYs and plymouth screens
[16:19] <NikTh> It disables the kernel modesetting , not nouveau altogether
[16:20] <sacarlson> daftykins: I'm not sure I'll have to look that up but it seems I recall an old laptop I had that was only bootable with nomodeset and I was later able to upgrade to propriatary
[16:20] <kokoye2007> hi who can help https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/
[16:20] <daftykins> NikTh: you ran update-grub after yeah? no point setting permanently for a one-time try. just edit it in GRUB at boot once to test :>
[16:20] <NikTh> But I always see the message "[KMS] is not enabled" in his logs.
[16:20] <sacarlson> imfreakingout: maybe you could try sudo apt-get install -f
[16:20] <webliberty> Unity with latest updates zoom text in !menus when Ctrl+"=" was pressed (Ubuntu 14.04 LTS) Who else has this problem?
[16:20] <daftykins> NikTh: /var/log/Xorg.0.log begs to differ, in my experience
[16:21] <cfhowlett> kokonoula, ??? help what?
[16:21] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: ok, i ran an update before it :D let it finish than i do that
[16:21] <sacarlson> imfreakingout: perfect
[16:21] <daftykins> imfreakingout: that's what i would've suggested to do via my method :)
[16:21] <imfreakingout> daftykins: xD
[16:21] <NikTh> daftykins: Yes, update-grub always, after every modification in /etc/default/grub
[16:22] <imfreakingout> daftykins: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/apt-fast/stable/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found  W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/apt-fast/stable/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found  E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. let me use -f now
[16:22] <imfreakingout> let me pastebin
[16:22] <NikTh> I'm really stuck here. He cannot use Unity with Nvidia, either nouveau or closed source.
[16:22] <daftykins> NikTh: sooo, can you answer regarding *which* nvidia drivers you were trying?
[16:23] <imfreakingout> daftykins: sacarlson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9045102/
[16:23] <artisanIndia> I have a ubuntu 14.04 on one laptop and ubuntu 13.04 on another on 14.04 when I plug in my data card I can access it under top right going into connections but on 13.04 it doesn't show anything like that
[16:24] <NikTh> 173 and all the newer available drivers from Ubuntu repository. One by one. Then "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*" , then install the other driver, reboot again.. etc.
[16:24] <NikTh> The only thing we didn't try is the installation from Nvidia site.
[16:24] <daftykins> artisanIndia: 13.04 is EOL, dead and unsupported. even if it can be fixed, there's no point. you should update to a supported release.
[16:25] <imfreakingout> daftykins: sacarlson: this is what it gives when i do upgrade : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9045123/
[16:25] <webliberty> no one has problems with Ctrl+"+"?
[16:25] <artisanIndia> on terminal I did apt-get upgrade it says it is the latest version on my server I have 12.04 and every time I login through ssh it shows a prompt that a newer version is availblabel to be downloaded run apt-get upgrade
[16:25] <daftykins> NikTh: good good. get your friend to pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log when 1) no nvidia, nouveau only 2) same, but with nomodeset off 3) nvidia-current package with nomodeset removed
[16:26] <teward> artisanIndia: 13.04 gets no updates, nor security updates - if you're still using 13.04 you should upgrade to a newer release.
[16:26] <artisanIndia> teward on terminal I did apt-get upgrade it says it is the latest version on my server I have 12.04 and every time I login through ssh it shows a prompt that a newer version is availblabel to be downloaded run apt-get upgrade
[16:26] <artisanIndia> can I do same with 13.04 ?
[16:26] <artisanIndia> how to upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04 ?
[16:26] <NikTh> daftykins: Hah, that's my "desire" too :P
[16:27] <anjo-aladiah> there is no 64 bits ubuntu Skype so i installed 32 bits version on lubuntu 14.10 64 bits. Some problem with this ?
[16:27] <imfreakingout> damn it i hate this problems :( took my whole day i could have studied :|
[16:27] <NikTh> He cannot post any results, any logs, because of this "black screen" problem. Either TTYs don't work. None of them (TTY1,2,3,4..)
[16:27] <daftykins> imfreakingout: Windows was available for study ;)
[16:28] <artisanIndia> can I upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04 over terminal without any external media ?
[16:28] <imfreakingout> daftykins: lol no i mean i spend the day trying to fix it :D
[16:28] <NikTh> He do a "hard/button" reboot. He cannot interact with the PC when this black screen occurs.
[16:28] <imfreakingout> daftykins: anyway did you look at paste bin? why do i get that?
[16:29] <k1l_> artisanIndia: you need to upgrade to 13.10 and then 14.04
[16:29] <anjo-aladiah> huum seems it works. I didnt know lubuntu 64 bits runs 32 bits apps !
[16:29] <k1l_> !eolupgrades | artisanIndia
[16:29] <daftykins> imfreakingout: you were using a PPA for some software you added that's non-ubuntu, the link's dead because it's been renamed
[16:29] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | artisanIndia,
[16:30] <artisanIndia> allrite
[16:30] <sacarlson> imfreakingout: looks like that ppa will have to be removed and then run apt-get install -f again unless it worked without it: http://ppa.launchpad.net/apt-fast/stable/ubuntu/dists
[16:30] <imfreakingout> daftykins: :O sacarlson ok, i chagned my server the day before the problem
[16:30] <daftykins> sacarlson: imfreakingout - i'd recommand a dist-upgrade prior to rebooting
[16:30] <k1l_> artisanIndia: updates over the internet, that is. so no external media needed
[16:31] <daftykins> anjo-aladiah: ubuntu is multi-arch now.
[16:31] <imfreakingout> daftykins: ok im running that
[16:31] <artisanIndia> and for that I have to add sources in my sources.list file ?
[16:32] <daftykins> NikTh: get your friend to enable SSH, then see if they can SSH in upon each boot attempt. if so, they can copy the log file somewhere appropriate.
[16:32] <daftykins> NikTh: otherwise, booting to a blank screen failure followed by booting the liveCD and grabbing the log from disk would also work :) tedious, but necessary
[16:33] <sacarlson> NikTh: so did you also try the nomodeset when you had the propriatary drivers installed?  from what I read it seems nomodeset just tries to prevent both drivers loading that cause conflict between each other
[16:33] <imfreakingout> daftykins: with my net thats gonna take some time :D will tell you when its done, thanks a lot till here :D
[16:33] <NikTh> daftykins: Yes, another guy suggested this as well. We tried this (from live CD) but he couldn't grab the correct logs.
[16:33] <daftykins> NikTh: can you elaborate on 'couldn't' ?
[16:34] <NikTh> daftykins: Newbie I think :)
[16:34] <daftykins> NikTh: make a script for them to run
[16:35] <daftykins> boot, mount disk, copy /var/log/Xorg.0.log -> /home/user/blahblah
[16:35] <daftykins> if they really want success they'll make it work.
[16:35] <NikTh> sacarlson: We tried with nomodest and without nomodest , when closed source drivers were installed.
[16:35] <daftykins> NikTh: this card isn't in a system with on-die intel graphics is it?
[16:36] <daftykins> NikTh: or other onboard graphics present
[16:36] <NikTh> daftykins: I don't think so. lspci gives only the Nvidia as a result.
[16:36] <daftykins> anything quirky about the system? standard desktop branded build, or a custom build?
[16:37] <NikTh> daftykins: I can give you some logs, but they are with "nomodest" enabled.
[16:37] <daftykins> sure, label them up with what scenario they're from and i'll take a glance
[16:37] <daftykins> but i warn you, i've been up so long i'm running on fumes.
[16:38] <NikTh> daftykins: Here is the screen were it stuck when "nomodeset" is not enabled : http://imagebin.ubuntu-gr.org/1415648952.jpg
[16:39] <NikTh> daftykins: Xorg.0.log and other logs with "nomodeset" enabled , here: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5BQQD6Kh
[16:40] <daftykins> wait what, AGP!?
[16:40] <daftykins> and VIA chipset, damn this thing belongs in a museum
[16:41] <imfreakingout> 57% god thats like super slow
[16:41] <leolrrj> hey gurus can anyone help-me? I`ve installed vmware workstation on my ubuntu server... and I have a machine with windows server... I want access this machine externally with remote desktop but it`s not working... I tried my ip, the nat ip or something like that but nothing... any idea or guide?
[16:42] <daftykins> leolrrj: is your VM using bridged networking or NAT?
[16:42] <NikTh> daftykins: Hmm, maybe we could try an older nvidia driver ? older even from 173 ?
[16:42] <leolrrj> daftykins: it`s using NAT... but I can change because it`s my initial setup...
[16:43] <daftykins> NikTh: sincerely doubt it'd make a difference. what's the motherboard? an AGP 9600 seems quaint 0o
[16:43] <NikTh> daftykins: but nvidia-73 is no longer available in Ubuntu repositories ... :-
[16:43] <imfreakingout> sacarlson: should i change my server to main? its taking so long, will that make it start all over again, or it will save the downloaded data?
[16:44] <daftykins> leolrrj: when you say 'server' i take it that system does have X?
[16:44] <daftykins> (the ubuntu host)
[16:44] <NikTh> daftykins: So you say is the card model ? too old ?
[16:44] <daftykins> NikTh: nvidia-173? :) "apt-cache search nvidia-"
[16:44] <leolrrj> daftykins: yes... I installed ubuntu-desktop and configured tightvnc... so I can handle it via vnc...
[16:44] <NikTh> daftykins: no nvidia-173, sorry I meant nvidia-96
[16:44] <leolrrj> but I want to access my windows server machine via default remote desktop access from microsoft
[16:45] <daftykins> leolrrj: ok, so if you want to RDP from the internet side you'll definitely want it bridged and not NAT'd
[16:45] <NikTh> daftykins: we already tried nvidia-173.
[16:45] <daftykins> NikTh: can you check the motherboard for BIOS updates?
[16:45] <leolrrj> daftykins: I`ve installed OpenVPN on my ubuntu server too... so I think that I will use vpn for all accesses to my windows server machine...
[16:46] <leolrrj> maybe I should install vpn on windows server machine directly instead of ubuntu server... what do you think?
[16:46] <NikTh> daftykins: BIOS updates ? Kind of difficult I guess. He will need a DOS system or Win 2000 (not even XP).
[16:46] <NikTh> daftykins: but I will inform him.
[16:46] <daftykins> NikTh: just check if there are any available. it's trivial to make a DOS bootable USB with an updater, if you even get that far :>
[16:47] <NikTh> The system is old, I know, but I thought this card supported from nouveau driver according : http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames/
[16:48] <daftykins> NikTh: do you know the RAM count on the card?
[16:48] <NikTh> daftykins: of the card no. Of the system is 3GB.
[16:49] <newb_> Hi! quick question. Does my wireless adapter have any effect on my other OS system? Lately, my wirless adapter keeps disconecting in my windows 7. However, the wirless adapter works perfectly fine in ubuntu. Can anyone help me fix this problem??
[16:49] <NikTh> I bet on 128 or 256MB , not larget.
[16:49] <NikTh> larger
[16:50] <reisio> newb_: probably the software for utilizing the adapter, in Windows, is imperfect
[16:50] <solsTiCe> the driver
[16:50] <NikTh> daftykins: maybe you have right and the card is too old. AGP port.. hmm..
[16:50] <daftykins> newb_: sounds like Windows support to me. hop in ##windows and ask for help updating the driver.
[16:51] <daftykins> NikTh: have you been trying non-unity 'buntus too?
[16:51] <ph88_> im using ubuntu gnome 14.04  it ask me to upgrade .. i would like to keep using gnome, will it switch to unity ?
[16:52] <NikTh> daftykins: No. I told him, the system is good for Unity, because of the RAM and the Card , I thought it was supported good from nouveau driver, but maybe is my fault.
[16:52] <daftykins> NikTh: nah you made a good call, probably just something quirky. i'd pop xubuntu on a flash drive as another attempt to diagnose
[16:53] <bekks> newb_: "No, no effects on other OS."
[16:53] <NikTh> daftykins: you say Xubuntu just to take the logs ? good idea.
[16:53] <daftykins> NikTh: i'd try it in every way too, install and test
[16:55] <NikTh> daftykins: Thanks for the ideas :)
[16:55] <wonton> Anyone notice chromium hanging on fresh 14.04 install?
[16:56] <daftykins> NikTh: no problem!
[16:56] <bekks> wonton: Me doesnt.
[16:56] <wonton> bekks, Ah. Apparently the bug lords are out for my head.
[16:56] <leolrrj> daftykins: could you help-me a lil bit?
[16:57] <wonton> Chromium crashes,, light locker funked,, acpiHEADZZZ EXPLODEZZ
[16:57] <leolrrj> How can I set bridge
[16:57] <bekks> wonton: So search the bugtrackewr for existing bugs for your specific issue, and comment on them, or file a new bug if there no existing ones covering your issues.
[16:57] <wonton> I'm sorry bug lords. Whatever I did.. Please stop giving me ur bugz..
[16:58] <wonton> END: rant
[16:58] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Hello i setup apache from this site (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04) and on accident i changed the permissions on the directories like i can do cd /var/www/html but i made i directory inside of html called ns and when i try to cd into it it says "bash: cd: ns: Permission denied" tried sudo cd ns and got "sudo: cd: command not found"
[16:58] <wonton> bekks, I did.
[16:58] <daftykins> leolrrj: gotta stop the VM (probably) and edit its' settings
[16:58] <bekks> wonton: So which bug did you comment on / created?
[16:58] <wonton> A probable working,, workaround is uninstalling light locker
[16:58] <wonton> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=392777
[16:58] <wonton> http://askubuntu.com/questions/504124/chrome-crashing-too-often-in-ubuntu-14-04
[16:59] <suni> Hello
[16:59] <reisio> 'lo
[16:59] <wonton> oops that references chrome, not chromium
[16:59] <newb_> windows suck.
[16:59] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ^
[16:59] <wonton> Linux sucks too.
[16:59] <newb_> no one wanted to help me
[16:59] <suni> My apologies since this is probably the wrong channel, but does freenode have a new members channel?
[17:00] <wonton> Any one that has used Linux long enough will not admit to their use of the operating system as being smooth and care free.
[17:00] <reisio> suni: for technical questions, #freenode
[17:00] <reisio> suni: otherwise no not really
[17:00] <newb_> ##windows ignored my question.
[17:00] <reisio> suni: although the whole network started at #linux
[17:00] <suni> Ok, thanks
[17:00] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Hello i setup apache from this site (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04) and on accident i changed the permissions on the directories like i can do cd /var/www/html but i made i directory inside of html called ns and when i try to cd into it it says "bash: cd: ns: Permission denied" tried sudo cd ns and got "sudo: cd: command not found"
[17:01] <rubiksmomo> newb_: You need to wait. People don't stare the channel all day long. They'll reply when someone who know the answer checks the channel.
[17:02] <newb_> I don't think anyone in ##windows knows the answer.
[17:02] <ph88_> is it safe to upgrade ?
[17:02] <wonton> Hey, ubuntu/xubuntu. Regress to xscreensaver. On no planet, in any uni or multiverse is light-locker ready for LTS!
[17:02] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: change the permissions.
[17:03] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ph88_ what do you mean?
[17:03] <rubiksmomo> newb_: then do your own research
[17:03] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> daftykins: how?
[17:03] <newb_> i did. Nothing i can find
[17:03] <ph88_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: keep the same desktop, my configuration and files
[17:03] <daftykins> ph88_: it's never truly guaranteed, backup regardless.
[17:03] <cfhowlett> wonton, don't want lightlocker?  disable.
[17:03] <k1l_> ph88_: upgrade are automatic tested. if you dont have fancy 3rd party packages or setups that should work, yes. but backups are handy for murphys law
[17:03] <newb_> Same BS answer. Reinstall drivers. I did that 8 times.
[17:04] <rubiksmomo> newb_: anyway, you won't get the help in wrong channel, that's for sure
[17:04] <newb_> i know. any good windows channel?
[17:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> daftykins: how would i be able to change the permissions?
[17:05] <ph88_> is the home folder all i need to backup ?
[17:05] <daftykins> !permissions
[17:05] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: ^
[17:05] <imfreakingout> newb_: thats the exact reason i hate windows
[17:05] <daftykins> ph88_: that won't have what software you have installed, but that's the best way to get the importnat stuff yes.
[17:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> daftykins: thanks
[17:05] <imfreakingout> newb_: haven't successfully installed a driver ever :D ,  on ubuntu, plug *beep* recogonized :D
[17:06] <daftykins> imfreakingout: please don't encourage offtopic conversation
[17:06] <imfreakingout> woops sorry :(
[17:06] <ph88_> daftykins: can i use cp  to copy to afp://   ?
[17:06] <daftykins> he's gone anyway
[17:06] <imfreakingout> lol ! sorry i was just bored :D
[17:06] <daftykins> ph88_: i've no experience with whether you can even mount via AFP on Linux
[17:07] <daftykins> i think it's experimental
[17:07] <daftykins> or deprecated
[17:07] <ph88_> i dont know what it is
[17:07] <ph88_> i just noticed it while opening network drive
[17:07] <scellow> test
[17:08] <daftykins> ph88_: it's a way to connect to a mac.
[17:08] <ph88_> oh
[17:09] <ph88_> its not a mac, its a NAS
[17:09] <ph88_> maybe i can have it use NFS
[17:09] <imfreakingout> yay ! finally run, rebooting and will tell you the results :|
[17:09] <imfreakingout> finally done*
[17:09] <daftykins> ph88_: SMB would be the main one :)
[17:09] <daftykins> imfreakingout: \o/ good luck!
[17:10] <Lunario> is it safe to delete one's /var/cache folder or can it cause problems?
[17:10] <Frank_Jameso> is there a good guide to getting things that should be services themselves that you have installed in ubuntu to run properly with the sudo service * start command?
[17:10] <smacktalk> anyone know how to edit the weather location in conky themes?
[17:10] <bekks> Lunario: It can cause problems.
[17:10] <Lunario> bekks: thx.
[17:11] <Lunario> what should I do if I want to remove unneeded cache files?
[17:11] <zykotick9> Lunario: for the apt downloads you can remove them with "sudo apt-get clean" i believe
[17:11] <ph88_> daftykins: why do you advice samba? doesnt linux have its own network protocol ?
[17:12] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> daftykins: should have just done sudo bash then go into the directory thanks for that wiki on file permissions
[17:12] <daftykins> ph88_: sure. just saying what's likely to 'just work'
[17:12] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: nooooo don't ever do that
[17:12] <scellow_> damn these irc client on linux are all designed with foots ......
[17:12] <zykotick9> GuyThatNeedsHelp: don't use "sudo bash" you "sudo -i" if you need a root terminal
[17:12] <scellow_> this is driving me crazy
[17:12] <DrManhattan> I am trying to allow my user account write access to a single folder on my host. I have created a symlink to the directory in my home folder but I am unable to write to it. What steps (assuming chmod?) do I need to take in order to allow my user account access to the folder?
[17:12] <zykotick9> s/you/use/
[17:13] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: what zykotick9 just said ^
[17:13] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> daftykins why?
[17:13] <scellow_> i understand why people avoid linux, everything is non-userfriendly
[17:13] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: it's bad practice. Here be dragons, just trust me on this
[17:13] <zykotick9> scellow_: linux is user friendly, it's just picky who it's friends are ;)
[17:13] <ph88_> daftykins: i have NFS enabled on my NAS but i only see Windows Network at nautilus browser network
[17:13] <DrManhattan> please keep in mind, I only want my one user account to have access to this folder, otherwise I would like the permissions to stay the same.
[17:13] <daftykins> scellow_: which did you install?
[17:14] <scellow_> daftykins, all of them and all of them are non-userfriendly
[17:14] <daftykins> DrManhattan: can you give us an "ls -al" pastebin'd at paste.ubuntu.com first ? this is of that folder
[17:14] <scellow_> the best one was Quassel
[17:14] <DrManhattan> sure
[17:14] <daftykins> scellow_: i find that distinctly hard to believe.
[17:14] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> daftykins atm im workin on a project so i cant really read into file permissions right now thats why i came in here so i could get a quick fix on that file
[17:14] <imfreakingout> damn it it dind't work :( i went back to old one and it got stuck but after a little i got to old version's low graphics mod, my mouse leaves a black trace :| what should i do:( this is killing me
[17:15] <scellow_> I'm just waiting for trillian to release their linux version
[17:15] <daftykins> scellow_: was hexchat part of your list of attempts?
[17:15] <reisio> what's wrong with pidgin?
[17:16] <reisio> you're probably confusing trivial changes that your eyes aren't used to with 'non-user-friendly'
[17:16] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: ok, if you're going to start running a web server you're going to need to understand it thoroughly else when something goes wrong you won't know what to do :)
[17:16] <scellow_> daftykins, i just rested and removed it, the ui is disgusting
[17:16] <reisio> find a theme for the app you're using, to make it look like the app you used to use, then you'll be happy
[17:16] <DrManhattan> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9045686/
[17:17] <daftykins> DrManhattan: ok so that's an entirely different disk currently owned by root. you're going to want to run "sudo chown -R ishai: /media/video/" to start with, then repeat the ls -al and pastebin again please
[17:17] <imfreakingout> daftykins: that didn't work :( i get something as fail and all other are sucssed when i press esc when booting :|
[17:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> daftykins still kinda new to linux but appreciate your help
[17:18] <daftykins> imfreakingout: erk, does picking a different kernel get you anywhere different this time?
[17:18] <DrManhattan> daftykins, but when I want to use PLex server to serve videos out of that folder, will the chown hurt my ability to do that?
[17:18] <imfreakingout> daftykins; :(((( i remember new kernel had some awesome feature :(((
[17:19] <imfreakingout> why is it like that
[17:19] <scellow_> how can you distingish messages from log message, really ... http://i.imgur.com/76wXaUM.png
[17:19] <scellow_> designed with foots i told you
[17:19] <daftykins> DrManhattan: this box is going to be running the plex server component?
[17:19] <daftykins> scellow_: turn off joins and parts.
[17:19] <DrManhattan> daftykins, that is correct sir. I want to be able to upload videos to the folder via a symlink folder in my home dir
[17:19] <imfreakingout> daftykins: i also don't want to lose my stuff, anyway also this old version doesn't work perfectly, its slow and weird and low graphics mod !
[17:20] <reisio> scellow_: oh I see, it's just that you've never used a real IRC client before :)
[17:20] <scellow_> daftykins, i dont want to, i just want them to be leeeeeessss intrusive, why this default choice ? by default user, you'll have to get a non-userfriendly interface
[17:20] <reisio> change the theme, then
[17:20] <daftykins> scellow_: sorry but your inexperience with IRC isn't something i can help with.
[17:20] <reisio> by default, it's useful to know whether a person is present or not on IRC
[17:21] <daftykins> DrManhattan: hmm, well for plex i can't guarantee that right now but i'm sure it'd only be another step or two along the line... step #1 is definitely letting you write to that disk :)
[17:21] <scellow_> having to do x-y-z thing for each component, for each app, really linux devs should build intuitive apps instead of do it yourself fucking shit user
[17:21] <DrManhattan> daftykins, ok lets give it a shot
[17:21] <imfreakingout> daftykins: i want to hit my head to wall :||| let me try something, thanks a lot ! maybe i will wait in ubuntu forums, 99 review no reply :|
[17:21] <daftykins> scellow_: your bad attitude and bad language are not welcome here. please be polite.
[17:21] <scellow_> i miss linquinus ..
[17:22] <zykotick9> scellow_: you opinion may not be shared by everyone
[17:22] <reisio> scellow_: it's nothing to do with GNU/Linux
[17:22] <scellow_> daftykins, i understand , sorry, i'm just frustrated for wasting xxx hours trying to setup properly something
[17:22] <reisio> scellow_: change is change
[17:22] <daftykins> imfreakingout: are any of the older versions booting though?
[17:22] <reisio> scellow_: you can't change your software and have everything be 100% the same, that is impossible
[17:22] <scellow_> reisio, it is, most of the linux apps are badly designed
[17:22] <reisio> scellow_: nah
[17:23] <bekks> scellow_: It is not.
[17:23] <daftykins> DrManhattan: are you happy to run the above mentioned command and re-pastebin?
[17:23] <reisio> scellow_: you're just shocked because it's not what you're used to, it's perfectly normal
[17:23] <reisio> you'll get over it
[17:23] <scellow_> it's not perfectly normal, re-look this screen http://i.imgur.com/76wXaUM.png
[17:23] <DrManhattan> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9045801/
[17:23] <reisio> in this particular case, though, you appear to be quite used to using _IM_ clients for IRC
[17:23] <scellow_> where is the messages
[17:23] <reisio> if you want to use an _IM_ client for IRC, you can, even on GNU/Linux
[17:23] <DrManhattan> daftykins, thank you for helping with this.
[17:24] <reisio> scellow_: if you want to alter XChat/HexChat text appearance, you can do that, too
[17:24] <reisio> if you want to complain about the same thing endlessly and ignore advice, you can only manage that for so long, I promise you :D
[17:24] <DrManhattan> daftykins, I am able to write to the folder now. I will need to figure out how to get access to it through the samba share. It doesn't seem to want to let me in.
[17:25] <daftykins> DrManhattan: how did you set up the share?
[17:25] <scellow_> reisio, you don't understand what i'm trying to say, i just wanted to point the fact that apps have bad default design choice, that's all, i understand i can change things, but the default one are really bad, and it's not userfriendly to do these change
[17:25] <scellow_> i know you can do it that's not the problem
[17:25] <reisio> scellow_: you can say it all you like, but it won't make it true
[17:26] <ikonia> scellow_: there is nothing wrong with xchat - lots of people are happy with it, if you don't like it either a.) change it b.) don't use it and use one you do like
[17:26] <DrManhattan> daftykins, I can pastebin the relevant part of the smb.conf if you 'd like. It lets me log into my home folder but I cannot enter the videolibrary folder which is a symlink dir to /media/video
[17:26] <ikonia> compaining about it in this channel is pointless, so lets stop
[17:26] <scellow_> again, do you feel it's a good design choice, this -> http://i.imgur.com/76wXaUM.png ?
[17:26] <reisio> scellow_: it's an irrelevant design choice
[17:26] <bekks> scellow_: How is "bad code design" related to the issues of "i dont want to configure my xchat but I want to change settings" you are having with xchat?
[17:26] <imfreakingout> test
[17:26] <reisio> imfreakingout: pass
[17:26] <daftykins> DrManhattan: mmm, that is possibly permissions too but also possibly samba not following symlinks, you might want to share /media/video directly :)
[17:27] <ikonia> scellow_: yes, it's a good design
[17:27] <DrManhattan> aha that's it daftykins I think I forgot the option to follow symlinks
[17:27] <ramborocks> hello
[17:27] <ikonia> scellow_: now drop it please
[17:27] <imfreakingout> reisio: lol i was just testing my net sorry!
[17:27] <obideuce> scellow_: for someone who can't find the messages, you sure seem to be quit proficient is posting garbage in here. can you please stop filling the chat with your hate and ask an actual support question.
[17:27] <ramborocks> im getting this error http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack/eula.htm
[17:27] <ramborocks> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:27] <DrManhattan> or maybe not
[17:27] <ramborocks> the second error
[17:27] <bekks> ramborocks: Thats no error.
[17:27] <reisio> imfreakingout: :p
[17:27] <ikonia> that's just a url
[17:27] <imfreakingout> nobody else is able to help me with not being able to  get past ubuntu splash screen problem ?:D
[17:28] <reisio> imfreakingout: what happens?
[17:29] <imfreakingout> it gets stuck at slashscreen, im able to get to grub, no key works, the circle in xubuntu splash just stops spining and esc or ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work
[17:29] <scellow_> it sent me to that channel by default, i just installed xchat, and i needed to say all my frustration somewhere if i dont wanted to break my screen, sorry for being rude, but yeah 5 hour of frustration doesn't help at all, it's not only a "IRC client" problem, i face with this each time i try something
[17:29] <ikonia> scellow_: not here
[17:29] <ikonia> scellow_: this isn't the place to complain
[17:29] <reisio> scellow_: yes, as I said, when you _try something new_, you experience CHANGE
[17:29] <imfreakingout> reisio: the day before i shutdown pc while the upgrade was running
[17:30] <ramborocks> have you tried just reinstalling?
[17:30] <SuperTeece> That's where I would go, reinstall from fresh
[17:30] <imfreakingout> reisio: let me tell like that: i shutdown my pc in middle if upgrade and now it gets stuck at splash screen but i can get into old generic low graphics
[17:30] <bekks> ramborocks: Reinstalling things does not help most likely, this isnt Windows.
[17:30] <imfreakingout> ramborocks: me?
[17:30] <ikonia> ...in the middle of an upgrade
[17:30] <ramborocks> yeah - well im new to linux
[17:30] <reisio> imfreakingout: so you want "high" graphics?
[17:31] <imfreakingout> ikonia: yes :( im so stupid, i just woke up 6 am spleepy
[17:31] <imfreakingout> reisio: no im just saying thats the only way i can get it too boot
[17:31] <ramborocks> imfreakingout yeah have you tried to just download the updates again and manually add them?
[17:31] <imfreakingout> ikonia: still can't understand why i done that
[17:31] <reisio> imfreakingout: sounds like you just need "high" graphics, then
[17:31] <bekks> imfreakingout: Did you try nomodeset?
[17:31] <imfreakingout> ramborock: i get error
[17:31] <imfreakingout> i need normal ubuntu
[17:31] <imfreakingout> bekks: i odn't know what that is
[17:32] <imfreakingout> let me run upgrade again to post errors
[17:32] <bekks> !nomodeset | imfreakingout
[17:32] <imfreakingout> no error reisio
[17:32] <imfreakingout> ubottu : ok thanks :)
[17:32] <scellow_> reisio, change what ? my eyes ? you haven't answered to my question, can you clearly distingish the message from the log messages ? http://i.imgur.com/76wXaUM.png
[17:32] <imfreakingout> lol xD
[17:33] <SuperTeece> imfreakingout: if you can get to a terminal and have a network connection then try "sudo do-release-upgrade –d"
[17:33] <ikonia> do not run that command
[17:33] <SuperTeece> no?
[17:33] <reisio> scellow_: it's irrelevant
[17:33] <ikonia> no
[17:34] <SuperTeece> why, it'll just check for an upgrade and give an option to continue
[17:34] <imfreakingout> superteece: my net is slower than a turtle but let me try it
[17:34] <reisio> scellow_: when you've never used XChat before, or possibly even any dedicated IRC client, using it or any one is bound to be a new experience for you and your eyes
[17:34] <SuperTeece> wait, don't
[17:34] <ikonia> no it won't
[17:34] <reisio> scellow_: now go outside and take a walk ;)
[17:34] <imfreakingout> oh god
[17:34] <imfreakingout> im confused
[17:34] <SuperTeece> if there's a valid reason that I'm unaware of
[17:34] <imfreakingout> sudo do-release-upgrade –d or reboot nomodest or
[17:34] <imfreakingout> what should i do than?
[17:35] <ikonia> imfreakingout: what version did you install and what version are you trying to upgrade to ?
[17:35] <imfreakingout> i had 14.04 with out running upgrade for long
[17:35] <imfreakingout> i just ran upgrade
[17:35] <ikonia> upgrade or update
[17:35] <ikonia> just to be clear
[17:35] <imfreakingout> upgrade
[17:35] <ikonia> where you trying to move to 14.10
[17:35] <imfreakingout> sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[17:35] <imfreakingout> i ran this
[17:35] <ikonia> ok,
[17:36] <imfreakingout> and let it be there till 6am
[17:36] <ikonia> so you're not trying to change versions then
[17:36] <imfreakingout> i slept during that
[17:36] <imfreakingout> nope!
[17:36] <imfreakingout> but i would like to get 14.10 :)
[17:36] <imfreakingout> after fixing this
[17:36] <SuperTeece> ahh! ok then don't do mine. I misunderstood your goal.
[17:36] <imfreakingout> ok
[17:36] <imfreakingout> :)
[17:36] <imfreakingout> so what now?
[17:36] <ikonia> imfreakingout: if you want to end up on 14.10 I suggest you download 14.10, back up your data and then just clean install
[17:36] <imfreakingout> nomodest?
[17:36] <ikonia> rather than trying to fix a machine in the middle of failed updates
[17:37] <imfreakingout> ikonia: i can't backup sudo apt-get installs
[17:37] <ikonia> while this is technically possible, you'll find it quicker and easier to move to your end goal
[17:37] <imfreakingout> i spent many money on downloading them
[17:37] <ikonia> imfreakingout: you'll need to redownload them if you upgrade to 14.10 anywy
[17:37] <bekks> imfreakingout: Why cant you backup your system?
[17:37] <ikonia> there is no way around that
[17:37] <imfreakingout> :O really?
[17:37] <ikonia> yes
[17:37] <ikonia> 14.10 packages are different than 14.04
[17:37] <imfreakingout> bekks: can i backup installed apt-s?
[17:37] <ikonia> so they will need to be re-downloaded
[17:37] <imfreakingout> ok than
[17:37] <imfreakingout> thankks alot x10
[17:38] <imfreakingout> ok, let me reinstall thanks a lot guys
[17:38] <imfreakingout> gtg dinner
[17:38] <imfreakingout> cya have nice time
[17:38] <bekks> imfreakingout: BAckup your entire system, or just your data. You applications will be reinstalled, with 14.10 packages anyway.
[17:38] <imfreakingout> bekks: reinstalled from net or hdd?
[17:38] <imfreakingout> i don't have anything to backup :D just apps
[17:38] <bekks> imfreakingout: Depends on the installation method you choose for 14.10
[17:39] <imfreakingout> bekks:O wat should i hcose?
[17:39] <imfreakingout> i gtg dinner :D
[17:39] <bekks> imfreakingout: Just download the Ubuntu 14.10 installation medium you want, and install it.
[17:39] <imfreakingout> bekks : ok thanks a lot
[17:39] <imfreakingout> bye
[17:39] <imfreakingout> gtg
[17:39] <imfreakingout> dinner
[17:43] <5EXABKCW2> how do i do a you tube video of some things I do on my computer? I know I have to get a microphone
[17:44] <daftykins> 5EXABKCW2: 'simple screen recorder'
[17:44] <5EXABKCW2> thanks
[17:46] <wonton> test
[17:49] <eric__> hi  everyone,,, I have a win7 and ubuntu dualboot .. is there a possibility to install elementary on a diff ext hdd?  thanks
[17:49] <ikonia> yes there is
[17:49] <ikonia> the guys in the elementary support channel can help you
[17:49] <eric__> @ikonia thanks again! :)
[17:51] <e^0> i silly question, when security updates are there do the machine reboots after the updates are applied ?
[17:51] <ikonia> e^0: depends on if that's required
[17:51] <ikonia> but it won't auto reboot unless you tell it to
[17:51] <e^0> ok :)
[17:54] <jhutchins> e^0: Reboots are only needed if the kernel is updated, and that's not mandatory (but the new kernel won't be used until you reboot).
[17:55] <jhutchins> There have been experiments with updating the kernel "live" without rebooting, but they didn't catch on.
[17:56] <e^0> hope one day updating the kernel "live" would be possible
[17:56] <e^0> but that can be difficult to achieve
[17:56] <SchrodingersScat> thought it was called ksplice
[17:56] <ikonia> correct
[17:56] <SchrodingersScat> !info ksplice
[17:56] <k1l_> e^0: there is something in the works. but give it some time
[17:57] <reisio> ksplice, yes, and kexec also
[17:57] <reisio> although my understanding is ksplice is a better approach
[17:58] <reisio> but if you want real redundancy, you have to have more than one install/box anyways
[17:58] <reisio> at which point rebooting is also not any type of issue
[17:58] <reisio> clever solutions for problems nobody really has :)
[17:58] <mbs_> Can someone help i think i just ballsed my home folder, i was doing a tutoral on btrfs and did  snapshot of my /home, did a set-default to the snapshot now my home folders read only and arrrrrgggggggg????
[17:59] <reisio> mbs_: 'mount' says it's ro?
[17:59] <krakel> hi , would it be possible to install steam and play a game from liveusb without any restrictions? i just want to try out my free driver before i install
[17:59] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Did sudo chmod -g ns on my directory in /var/www/html and still i get "bash: cd: ns: Permission denied" when i try to cd into my directory
[17:59] <DrManhattan> daftykins, no matter what I do I cannot get the symlinked dir ~/myusername/videos to link to /media/videos and access it through samba. Any clues where I should go?
[17:59] <reisio> krakel: before what?
[18:00] <krakel> reisio: well before installing, sorry
[18:00] <mbs_> when i gfx log in, the thing just bounces back to the log in screen, if i log in on the f1 terminal i get /home is read only
[18:00] <reisio> krakel: installing what?
[18:00] <daftykins> DrManhattan: as mentioned i'd just make it a direct share of /media/videos
[18:00] <bekks> GuyThatNeedsHelp: apache is not run as root, so that command will not help you.
[18:00] <krakel> reisio: ubuntu, i want to try performance of the open source gpu drivers in live mode before installing ubuntu. can that be done without restriction, ie performance is not on par with an actual installation?
[18:00] <DrManhattan> :(
[18:01] <bekks> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Which permissions does that folder have, currently?
[18:01] <Xe> How do I get the ATI drivers working for an AMD FirePro d500?
[18:01] <reisio> krakel: ah
[18:01] <Xe> there are two of them in factory forced crossfire
[18:02] <reisio> krakel: you might want to do a full install to a device to get the full effect, as a live OS the OS will compete with other things for RAM
[18:02] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> bekks: only root when i installed apache i accidently set it as root
[18:02] <reisio> krakel: you _can_ install to a USB stick, though
[18:02] <reisio> krakel: a full install
[18:02] <reisio> krakel: although I'm not sure it'd save you any time over an internal HD install :)
[18:02] <bekks> GuyThatNeedsHelp: "root" is a user or group. "root" is not "permissions".
[18:02] <bekks> GuyThatNeedsHelp: ls -lha ns  -- whats the output please?
[18:02] <krakel> reisio: nah, but im running live right now.. would it be less performance than a "real" enviorment you think?
[18:03] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> bekks: ls: cannot open directory ns: Permission denied
[18:03] <krakel> reisio: sorry just saw your reply from earlier
[18:03] <reisio> krakel: well in some ways it'll be more performant, since everything is running from RAM
[18:03] <reisio> krakel: but if you don't have much RAM, and run too much... you'll run out of RAM to share :p
[18:03] <zykotick9> GuyThatNeedsHelp: "ls -ld ns"
[18:04] <DrManhattan> daftykins, I got it!
[18:04]  * DrManhattan does the cabbage patch
[18:04] <reisio> krakel: if you have loads and loads of RAM, it might just be more performant :p
[18:04] <krakel> reisio: nah just 8gb
[18:04] <krakel> reisio: its running snappy as ever thou.. never felt my pc this snappy
[18:04] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> zykotick9: d--------- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 16 09:16 ns
[18:04] <reisio> krakel: well 'just 8' is actually quite a lot :p
[18:04] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9046341/
[18:05] <reisio> krakel: so you may well get a realistic experience out of it
[18:05] <daftykins> DrManhattan: was there a trick?
[18:05] <zykotick9> GuyThatNeedsHelp: that directory has NO permission at all!
[18:05] <krakel> well lets try a steam install then :)
[18:05] <DrManhattan> daftykins, I needed to put the allow symlinks lines into the global sections
[18:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> zykotick9 LOL how would i set them?
[18:05] <daftykins> DrManhattan: ah :)
[18:06] <reisio> krakel: what graphics device is it?
[18:07] <zykotick9> GuyThatNeedsHelp: (this could be done in one step, but can't be bothered to think octal format right now) "chmod ug+rwx ns" and "chmod o+rx ns"
[18:07] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[18:07] <reisio> hi
[18:08] <ShapeShifter499> can anyone here help me with this  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26960080/compress-and-encrypt-multiple-files-individually-while-preserving-the-file-struc   ?
[18:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> zykotick9: THANK YOU but when i make another directory in /var/www/html will i have to do the same thing?
[18:08] <Lunario> how can I make the unity sidebar disappear when i open e.g. vlc in full screen?
[18:08] <zykotick9> GuyThatNeedsHelp: depends?
[18:08] <mbs_> anyone know how to set btrfs back to the root
[18:09] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> zykotick9: nvm i tried it out and it worked thank you
[18:09] <ShapeShifter499> I don't need the folders encrypted or compressed but the individual files should be encrypted and compressed
[18:09] <zykotick9> GuyThatNeedsHelp: your welcome.
[18:09] <DrManhattan> I notice in 14.04 the discard option is applied to the software raid device to enable trim - I don't even see the underlying block devices in /etc/fstab. Is there a file where the block devices (sda and sdb) are configured?
[18:10] <DrManhattan> Im not going to change it from the defaults, I wanted to make sure TRIM is properly enabled
[18:10] <reisio> Lunario: why?
[18:10] <SchrodingersScat> ShapeShifter499: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/TestsAndConditionals#Conditional_Loops_.28while.2C_until_and_for.29
[18:11] <zykotick9> DrManhattan: using discard on SSDs might not be the best solution.  manually running fstrim will give you better performance.  just sayin'
[18:11] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: can use openssl or 7z
[18:11] <Lunario> reisio: because it's a nuisance when watching a movie, for example
[18:14] <Xe> Are messages I am sending visible to the channel?
[18:14] <reisio> Lunario: it's over the video?
[18:14] <zykotick9> Xe: yes
[18:14] <reisio> Xe: that one was
[18:14] <krakel> reisio: its radeon 7950
[18:14] <SchrodingersScat> ShapeShifter499: find could probably run whatever command you want on each file as well, but loops are an option and you could just use find to populate your file list, like i in $(find . -type f) ; do echo "$i" ; done
[18:14] <Xe> How do I get the ATI drivers working for an AMD FirePro d500? There are two of them in forced crossfire.
[18:14] <krakel> reisio: im thinking about replacing windows 8
[18:15] <Lunario> reisio: no, it just limits the "full screen" to where the unity sidebar begins
[18:16] <ShapeShifter499> SchrodingersScat, I understand what I should run to get the compressed files but I'm lost on how to automatically have the directories created
[18:17] <reisio> Lunario: that sounds like it's merely maximized, and not full screen
[18:17] <reisio> Lunario: I'm pretty sure you can have the bar hide until you hover over the left side, though
[18:17] <ShapeShifter499> SchrodingersScat, for example if I were to try to encrypt my home directory
[18:17] <ShapeShifter499> *encrypt/compress
[18:18] <Lunario> reisio: no, it's in full screen. but yeah, I will check tweak tool for such an option
[18:18] <Lunario> thx
[18:18] <geneziz> hi
[18:18] <geneziz> i was wondering if you can help me with problem
 The program 'apt-get' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
 sudo apt-get install apt-get
[18:19] <bekks> geneziz: What did you do for not having apt-get?
[18:19] <geneziz> i dont know
[18:19] <bekks> geneziz: Whats the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[18:19] <krakel> geneziz: lol that is a funny error message
[18:20] <geneziz> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[18:20] <krakel> geneziz: what happens if you actually run the command it says? same error message?
[18:20] <geneziz> The program 'sudo' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[18:20] <geneziz> sudo apt-get install sudo
[18:20] <RustinCohle> Hello, is it normal after enabling "PasswordAuthentication yes" in sshd_config on my Ubuntu I keep failing to connect to it from other machine saying that "Host Key validation failed"?
[18:21] <krakel> geneziz: what have you done? ll
[18:21] <geneziz> RustinCohle: dont forget to service reload
[18:21] <bekks> geneziz: Erm, why did you uninstall important patches like sudo and apt-get?
[18:21] <geneziz> i didnt
[18:21] <Wulf> RustinCohle: "host key validation" means the client fails to verify the server's identity
[18:21] <SchrodingersScat> ShapeShifter499: well, something like this does that, i used /tmp/test and /tmp/test2 to test, for i in $(find /tmp/test/ -type d) ; do mkdir -p "/tmp/test2/${i##/tmp/test/}" ; done  #not sure if something like 7zip can do this as a feature or not.
[18:22] <RustinCohle> geneziz: "sudo service ssh restart" right?
[18:22] <bekks> geneziz: you did, because those packages are part of the base install.
[18:22] <OerHeks> geneziz, hard to believe you don't know, as your 'error' is wrong :-D
[18:22] <geneziz> yeah
[18:22] <OerHeks> !find apt-get
[18:23] <OerHeks> troll
[18:23] <geneziz> yum still works
[18:23] <krakel> lol
[18:23] <OerHeks> next!
[18:23] <geneziz> lmao
[18:24] <bekks> geneziz: So you are not using Ubuntu.
[18:24] <bekks> Yum isnt provided by Ubuntu.
 Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[18:24] <bekks> !find yum
[18:24] <bekks> Geez.
[18:24] <RustinCohle> whats command to restart ssh?
[18:25] <geneziz> RustinCohle> geneziz: "sudo service ssh restart" right?
[18:25] <RustinCohle> kk
[18:25] <geneziz> also
[18:25] <OerHeks> service sshd restart
 RustinCohle: "host key validation" means the client fails to verify the server's identity
[18:25] <RustinCohle> ah!
[18:25] <ShapeShifter499> SchrodingersScat, ok give me a sec
[18:26] <RustinCohle> OerHeks are you sure?
[18:26] <geneziz> RustinCohle: sudo service --status-all
[18:27] <anonymous_> hi all
[18:27] <geneziz> omg its anonymous hes gonna hack us
[18:27] <anonymous_> hahaha funny...
[18:27] <RustinCohle> geneziz: you need the results?
[18:28] <geneziz> no
[18:28] <geneziz> look for something containing ssh
[18:28] <geneziz> thats the service you need to reload/restart
[18:29] <zykotick9> RustinCohle: fyi, you can TAB autocomple service names, so "sudo service ss<TAB>" should autocomplete to sshd or ssh, whichever it is.
[18:30] <anonymous_> i need some help
[18:30] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | anonymous_
[18:32] <anonymous_> i cant insall nothin on anon os it says i need root permession,,,
[18:33] <_unreal_> anonymous_, um DUH... you have to have root permissions ether by being root or sudo permissions, sudo=semi root
[18:33] <rubiksmomo> anonymous_: Are you using a command or GUI?
[18:34] <anonymous_> GUI
[18:34] <_unreal_> heck, anonymous_ are you using a live distro or installed?
[18:34] <anonymous_> installed
[18:34] <_unreal_> ok what are you trying to install?
[18:35] <anonymous_> skype ;V
[18:35] <_unreal_> ok. so you need to download the skype DEB package for starters
[18:35] <bubbasaures> anonymous_, can you run this command and post the answer. lsb_release -a
[18:35] <anonymous_> i have it allready
[18:36] <OerHeks> on anon os?
[18:36] <anonymous_> but it asks for a pass
[18:36] <_unreal_> so enter your user password
[18:36] <OerHeks> only ubuntu is supported here, anonymous_
[18:36] <anonymous_> it doesnt worck
[18:37] <OerHeks> find the right channel for your anon os
[18:37] <BluesKaj> anonymous_,
[18:37] <RustinCohle> it works!
[18:37] <RustinCohle> thank you guys, awesome support here
[18:37] <BluesKaj> anon os isn't supported here , anonymous_
[18:47] <Xe> I am willing to pay money to someone who can help fix my problem
[18:48] <k1l> Xe: if its an ubuntu issue we can try to solve that in here without needing to pay.
[18:48] <zykotick9> Xe: why not post your question, and see if you can fix it for free with someones help?
[18:48] <Xe> How do I get the ATI drivers working for an AMD FirePro d500? There are two of them in forced crossfire. The fglrx drivers in the repos do not work. I get a black screen and have to log in via the console.
[18:49] <Xe> this is a mac pro (the desktop cylinder one), not a macbook
[18:50] <Xe> I have asked this question 5 times in here and gotten no reply, so I am offering money to the person who can get a working fix
[18:50] <k1l> Xe: hmm, crossfire. did you try nomodeset as boot option, yet?
[18:51] <Xe> yes
[18:51] <Xe> still black screen
[18:51] <Xe> I have it booted with the FOSS drivers at the moment
[18:52] <cryptodan> Xe how old is that video card?
[18:52] <Xe> I would prefer to be able to game
[18:52] <Xe> cryptodan: This is a literally brand new mac pro
[18:52] <Xe> lspci identifies it as a Radeon HD 7870
[18:53] <Xe> but the drivers that are known to work with a Radeon HD 7870 die because it cannot verify the "VGA Bios" of the card
[18:54] <OerHeks> Xe, this is an old ati crossfire howto, but not sure this applies to your mac too http://askubuntu.com/a/330807
[18:54] <OerHeks> do this check first : aticonfig --lscs
[18:54] <Xe> reinstalling catalyst
[19:01] <michele993> show me your desktop
[19:01] <k1l> !ot | michele993
[19:02] <Guest66063> gooevening
[19:02] <Guest66063> can anyone help me with a problem with my wifi?
[19:03] <Guest66063> altho wifi is working on my netbook
[19:03] <Guest66063> no networks are showen in the wickd manager
[19:04] <Guest66063> nick john
[19:04] <Guest66063> nick/ john
[19:04] <Guest66063> \nick john
[19:05] <k1l> /nick newnick
[19:05] <michele993> are there the widgets for ubuntu 14.04?
[19:05] <michele993> as windows
[19:06] <SchrodingersScat> michele993: i think there's a few, conky? screenlets? not sure what people use, I don't.
[19:07] <s2013> anyone here uses ubuntu on vmware ? how can i use dual monitor with it
[19:07] <s2013> im on windows as my native os
[19:07] <michele993> like this http://www.tomshw.it/forum/attachments/linux-e-altri-sistemi-operativi/28967d1342791289-le-foto-del-vostro-desktop-topic-ufficiale-os-alternativi-schermata-del-2012-07-19-16-33-46.png
[19:07] <s2013> but using ubuntu on vmwareforwork
[19:07] <John7654> so ...bodhi linux is installed,and wirelles networks aren't been showen in the manager...
[19:07] <Xe> I'm about ready to give up and just deal with apple's retaded OS design
[19:08] <OerHeks> John7654, bodhi linux has its own issues, find the proper bodhi channel please, as we support ubuntu only
[19:08] <John7654> ok
[19:12] <cgozzard> hello
[19:12] <cgozzard> just testing
[19:13] <Xe> test failed
[19:13] <cgozzard> boom
[19:19] <ashva> Hi, I've bought a Lenovo X1 carbon and installed ubuntu 14.04 on it. Is there any way to make it's finger print sensor to work?
[19:20] <bts-> The instructions for installing ubuntu on a macbook air suggest to use 12.04. I presume this is out-of-date?
[19:20] <vince__> Ashva, I'm curious how are the other things for the laptop? Working with no problems?
[19:21] <ashva> vince__: Actually every thing is working fine and without any problem except it's finger print sensor!!
[19:24] <ashva> Any idea?!
[19:26] <ashva> No idea how I can make my finger print sensor to work?
[19:27] <shamurai> Does it show up in lspci or lsusb?
[19:27] <e^0> how is that coreos never reboots ? than how it manages to apply the security update or new kernel release ?
[19:27] <e^0> sorry wrong post
[19:28] <OerHeks> ashva, check this ppa, and check if your device is supported https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui
[19:29] <ashva> shamurai: thanks for reply, honestly there are some devices that I don't know what are they. does it have any specific name or something?!
[19:33] <bts-> Is there any reason not to install 14.10 on a macbook air? I'm trying to figure out why the mac docs point to 12.04
[19:33] <shamurai> No theres no reason not to. Its just outdated, what model macbook do you have?
[19:34] <bts-> shamurai: Ah okay. A MacBookAir4,2 -- mid 2011
[19:34] <Amnasia> fingerprint-gui is your friend
[19:36] <JavaJosh> anyone have any luck using Samba with ubuntu? I have tons of shared folders, but only one can actually be opened by other computers. the rest throw permission errors
[19:37] <shamurai> What are the permissions on the other shares?
[19:38] <JavaJosh> i've set them to the same as the one that works, but they don't seem to stay that way
[19:39] <shamurai> Does everything look ok in /etc/samba/smb.conf? Or did you make the shares through the gui?
[19:39] <bts-> shamurai: Do you know why there seems to be amd64+mac links for 14.04 but not 14.10?
[19:39] <JavaJosh> i tired the GUI, when that didn't work I added the share in the smb.conf. still doesn't work. Interestingly, the folder that works doesn't even show up in smb.conf
[19:39] <ShapeShifter499> SchrodingersScat, still around?   I'm still making my script but my test script isn't working, any ideas?   https://pastee.org/yra76
[19:39] <seronis> how can i force reload the touchpad driver ?
[19:39] <OerHeks> ashva open terminal: lspci # and look for your device, the 8 digit hex number is what you need
[19:40] <shamurai> See if there are any smb.conf in your home dir.
[19:41] <deni_> jh
[19:41] <ShapeShifter499> SchrodingersScat, it fails at line 8
[19:42] <JavaJosh> shamurai: i dont see a smb.conf in the home dir
[19:42] <ashva> OerHeks: Thanks for reply, nut the problem is when I ran lscpi I can not find any device with a related name to finger print sensor
[19:42] <SchrodingersScat> ShapeShifter499: http://www.shellcheck.net/ missing a do, also the find -type d shows directories, -type f is files
[19:43] <SchrodingersScat> also missing done
[19:43] <__john__doe__> hey guys
[19:43] <__john__doe__> can anyone give me a good guide for seting uefi partitions manually
[19:43] <OerHeks> ashva, paste the whole output on paste.ubuntu.com so we can look with you
[19:43] <daftykins> __john__doe__: why manual?
[19:43] <SchrodingersScat> !uefi | __john__doe__
[19:44] <__john__doe__> daftykins: I dont want it to take all space
[19:45] <ashva> OerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9047532/plain/
[19:45] <__john__doe__> ubottu: I still cant see the layout
[19:45] <Amnasia> coreboot vs UEFI
[19:45] <ashva> OerHeks: thanks for your time
[19:45] <__john__doe__> ubottu: lol
[19:45] <Amnasia> ubottu: is smart ass bot
[19:46] <ashva> OerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9047532/
[19:46] <SchrodingersScat> !language | Amnasia
[19:46] <Amnasia> pleqase
[19:46] <XCVB> how do I install kde without the bloatware
[19:46] <Amnasia> please!
[19:47] <OerHeks> ashva, i do not see it there too, try now: lsusb # to see if it is an internal usb device, which is rare.
[19:47] <bubbasaures> XCVB, Do a mini install and build what you want.
[19:47] <Amnasia> install KDE plasma
[19:47] <Amnasia> ther
[19:48] <seronis> nvm.. figured out how to restart my touchpad    "sudo modprobe -r psmouse" then  "sudo modprobe psmouse"
[19:48] <Amnasia> the bloatware is still a work in progress
[19:48] <ashva> OerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9047565/
[19:49] <XCVB> I want to install kde without all the programs that come with it
[19:49] <OerHeks> ashva, there it is, line 7 :-)
[19:49] <k1l> XCVB: dont install kubuntu-desktop but only the kde package
[19:49] <ashva> OerHeks: you mean: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 138a:0017 Validity Sensors, Inc.
[19:49] <ashva> OerHeks: ?
[19:49] <shamurai> xcvb sent you a msg
[19:49] <bubbasaures> XCVB, Desktops are meta packages, you have to know what is there and the dependencies.
[19:50] <OerHeks> ashva, 138a:0017 ... not supported (yet) :-(
[19:51] <OerHeks> ashva, best thing to do, is to add your name with laptop model to this launchpad request. https://bugs.launchpad.net/fingerprint-gui/+bug/1341329
[19:53] <ashva> OerHeks: Thank you very much for your time and help. I will do that. ;)
[19:53] <EriC^^> __john__doe__: boot a live usb
[19:53] <aguitel> where are the temp files from google chrome?
[19:54] <EriC^^> aguitel: somewhere in your home dir
[19:54] <aguitel> EriC^^: i know but in what forder
[19:55] <ninjaec> Hope this works - I need help finding a specific folder for the software Mumble to change its skin
[19:55] <OerHeks> aguitel, that was easy to find in google like you didn't even searched :-D Google Chrome Config path: ~/.config/google-chrome Cache: ~/.cache/google-chrome
[19:56] <EriC^^> aguitel: try cd ~/.cache
[19:57] <Guest37761> good evening
[19:57] <EriC^^> evening Guest37761
[19:58] <Guest37761> hi
[19:58] <bubbasaures> ninjaec, Might be in ~/.config in a mumble folder
[19:59] <__john__doe__> EriC: I did
[19:59] <turtle8120> has anyobdy tried the nvidia gtx 750 ti in ubuntu? will it and the nvidia drivers work in ubuntu 1404?
[19:59] <EriC^^> __john__doe__: ok type sudo parted -l
[19:59] <kikimeter> I want to drop Proxmox. What is the best virtualization solution should I be looking?
[19:59] <EriC^^> __john__doe__: paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[19:59] <ninjaec> @bubbasaures how do I find the folder using the file explorer? I can find it using the terminal though
[20:00] <EriC^^> ninjaec: press ctrl+h
[20:00] <bubbasaures> ninjaec, This ubuntu or windows?
[20:00] <ninjaec> @bubbasaures Ubuntu
[20:00] <streulma> My computer is not well supported under Ubuntu :( It's HP Pavilion 17 f060nb
[20:01] <bubbasaures> ninjaec, Cool, we just call it home. You can tab complete the nicks no @ used.
[20:01] <bekks> streulma: What exactly isnt well supported?
[20:01] <streulma> problems with thermal, mouse, and thermal error 90D before boot
[20:01] <bekks> streulma: "thermal error before boot" hast nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[20:02] <streulma> I have Nvidia card and it moves in stripes if I move windows
[20:02] <turtle8120> i think 90d is a hp error
[20:02] <streulma> yes, but it comes if I run Ubuntu, not with Windows
[20:02] <streulma> only
[20:02] <bekks> streulma: So install the proper nvidia driver.
[20:02] <bubbasaures> ninjaec, As suggeted go to home hit ctrl-h to see files with '.' starting the folder name "hidden files" look for .config
[20:02] <bekks> streulma: And before booting, it is not an OS issue.
[20:02] <streulma> yes and then I have the error too
[20:02] <__john__doe__> EriC: need to login to another box
[20:03] <streulma> bekks: it sees an unnormal shutdown
[20:03] <streulma> provided by ACPI
[20:03] <ninjaec> bubbasaures: I actually didn't need to put these specific files inside the Mumble folder. I found the foulder though - but at the same time found another solution. thanks for the help though :)
[20:03] <bekks> streulma: errors before boot arent IS errors.
[20:03] <daftykins> streulma: apparently you need to open this thing and clean it from dust, as thermal error 90D is overheating
[20:03] <bekks> s/IS/OS/
[20:03] <streulma> that occurs the thermal error, bekks...
[20:03] <bubbasaures> ninjaec, Cool, good job, enjoy. ;)
[20:03] <streulma> bekks, then Linux is not good
[20:04] <streulma> on this computer
[20:04] <bekks> streulma: Linux has nothing to do with it.
[20:04] <streulma> with Windows all is running fine
[20:04] <bekks> streulma: You have a thermal error before boot.
[20:04] <streulma> I see other users who runs Linux who have it
[20:04] <streulma> and with running Windows only it is solved :)
[20:04] <bekks> streulma: Other users are irrelevant, since YOUR computer has a thermal issue.
[20:04] <streulma> by them
[20:04] <daftykins> streulma: your temperatures are probably unsafe. you need to get this thing serviced
[20:04] <streulma> no, he is new
[20:05] <streulma> only few weeks old
[20:05] <EriC^^> streulma: linux runs cooler than windows
[20:05] <bekks> streulma: It has a thermal error. It even tells you it has.
[20:05] <k1l> streulma: to make this a short one: are you even interested in solving an technical issue or are you here for ranting and flaming? if b), please leave
[20:05] <streulma> no, to solve Ubuntu problems
[20:06] <streulma> also Beats Audio runs like a bokal
[20:06] <daftykins> streulma: did you not look up whether this system was Linux compatible before buying?
[20:06] <streulma> no :(
[20:06] <k1l> streulma: then start giving infos, explanations and errormessages and stop the ranting stuff. we dont need drama in here
[20:06] <bekks> streulma: Fix the thermal issue. After booting into Ubuntu, you can fix the Ubuntu issues.
[20:06] <turtle8120> i googled the 90d problem, and many others seem to get the error when running linux.
[20:07] <streulma> the only Linux computer I found good was a Macbook Air
[20:07] <streulma> turtle8120 true !
[20:07] <bekks> BEfore booting, it isnt an OS issue.
[20:09] <streulma> thermal checked always and always it has 30 or 40 degrees Celcius
[20:09] <turtle8120> streulma have you tried contacting hp support?
[20:10] <streulma> yes :D
[20:10] <turtle8120> and what do they say?
[20:10] <daftykins> i doubt HP will help at the mention of Linux.
[20:10] <streulma> they say you lose warranty if you install Linux :D turtle8120
[20:10] <turtle8120> lol
[20:10] <bekks> streulma: So it didnt came with linux, as you stated above.
[20:10] <streulma> true ! they say on phone !
[20:10] <OerHeks> streulma, to do a "Restore Bios Settings to System Defaults". By pressing F10 and reseting the bios settings,checking the "Keep Fan On" menu option
[20:11] <streulma> turn fan off or on ?
[20:11] <daftykins> just seen the same stuff as OerHeks via google, i'd also check for BIOS updates.
[20:11] <streulma> I have latest
[20:11] <daftykins> but if more things are a problem, it's probably best you just get a refund
[20:11] <bekks> streulma: "overheating" means it gets too hot. A fan helps you to cool it down. Choose your weapom :)
[20:12] <daftykins> then research something that works properly and buy that
[20:12] <OerHeks> streulma, yes, first turn it off ( sounds silly) reboot, then do it again and turn it on they say
[20:12] <OerHeks> HP should know this
[20:12] <streulma> and the nvidia problems ?
[20:13] <streulma> I know nvidia have this
[20:13] <squinty> seems that hp actually supports linux   http://www8.hp.com/us/en/business-services/it-services.html?compURI=1078888#.VCnQ9JV0zwp&jumpid=hpr_r1002_usen_link1
[20:13] <OerHeks> streulma, see then if the nvidia problems still exist
[20:13] <bekks> streulma: Which driver do you use?
[20:13] <streulma> yeah in stripes
[20:13] <streulma> nvidia-340 from xorg edgers on 14.04
[20:13] <OerHeks> streulma you don't know yet, do you?
[20:13] <bekks> streulma: Why do you use the 340?
[20:13] <streulma> it's not available on 14.04 and 14.10
[20:14] <streulma> I have 840m
[20:14] <bekks> streulma: And it isnt supported by 331?
[20:14] <streulma> not available, no
[20:14] <streulma> only by 340
[20:14] <streulma> and 343
[20:14] <streulma> it's too new
[20:14] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/n878JeGb
[20:15] <prote>  /msg nickserv register prote Craxxy479ZoNdI
[20:15] <theperfectpunk> trouble with Ralink RT3290 again
[20:15] <streulma> prote, thanks for the password :)
[20:15] <theperfectpunk> everytime the kernel recieved a major makeover
[20:15] <prote> haha
[20:15] <theperfectpunk> the driver stops compiling
[20:15] <OerHeks> streulma, xorg-edgers has 346 too
[20:15] <streulma> is xorg edgers save ?
[20:16] <streulma> safe
[20:16] <loa> i found it unstable.
[20:16] <bekks> streulma: As safe/unsafe as all other PPA.
[20:16] <streulma> then I have NO supported driver?
[20:16] <theperfectpunk> can anybody have a look here http://pastebin.com/n878JeGb
[20:16] <theperfectpunk> Error Makefile:380: recipe for target 'LINUX' failed
[20:16] <squinty> and if you follow the links here one should see they also support Ubuntu  http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/enterprise/servers/supportmatrix/exceptions/ubuntu_exceptions.aspx?jumpid=reg_r1002_usen_c-001_title_r0001
[20:17] <OerHeks> i stop here, streulma
[20:17] <streulma> thanks for the support #not
[20:17] <turtle8120> hp pavilion laptops are on the "certified hardware" list
[20:17] <bekks> streulma: PPA arent supported in here.
[20:18] <streulma> bekks ok
[20:18] <daftykins> streulma: congrats on the product research ;) *cough*
[20:18] <bekks> daftykins: We all told him to get an Macbook Air before :)
[20:18] <kazdax> anyone want to help me setup a webserver ?
[20:18] <bekks> kazdax: sudo apt-get install apache2
[20:18] <streulma> what I have to do then? Run the Run file ?
[20:18] <daftykins> bekks: that's even more horrifying
[20:19] <daftykins> friends don't let friends buy Apple
[20:19] <streulma> I HAD an Air, but running at 90°C
[20:19] <bekks> daftykins: They do. Apple products just work, thats what's so horrifying in the opensource community.
[20:19] <bekks> kazdax: You can take a look at this, too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[20:20] <bwk> daftykins, i actually want to buy a macbook pro
[20:20] <turtle8120> why not build a custom tower pc?
[20:20]  * EriC^^ gives gun to daftykins , you know what to do if i ever say i'm getting Apple
[20:20] <bekks> turtle8120: Too heavy to carry it around.
[20:20] <daftykins> EriC^^: :D
[20:20] <bwk> EriC^^, lol.
[20:20] <daftykins> alright i'm off for the night, g'night my fellow volunteers \o
[20:21] <bekks> EriC^^: Ok, I'l be a witness for shooting you if you dont follow that advice :P
[20:21] <bubbasaures> take your meds guys
[20:21] <OerHeks> theperfectpunk, see this howto, follow 'the official guide' and see #4 #5 how to edit the config,mk http://askubuntu.com/a/253660
[20:22] <bwk> that was so off topic. I'm suprised no one bitched.
[20:22] <theperfectpunk> OerHerk: did that
[20:22] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: i'm j/k dude i actually have an iphone
[20:22] <theperfectpunk> it was working previously in older kernel
[20:23] <bubbasaures> ;) an OS is an OS here, started on open source, it's a brave new world take the soma
[20:23] <prote> hello
[20:24] <prote> jhjgkgkg
[20:24] <theperfectpunk> OerHerk: do i need to modit LINUX_SRC in Makefile?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Hi prote
[20:24] <theperfectpunk> the error kinda hints that
[20:25] <OerHeks> theperfectpunk, i don't know, this howto is all i have and used before
[20:25] <Lunario> is it possible to remotely control a shell window initiated via CTRL+Alt+F1/2/3/... without screen`
[20:25] <Lunario> *?
[20:26] <EriC^^> Lunario: yes
[20:26] <OerHeks> Lunario, sure, ssh into the machine
[20:27] <Lunario> i don't mean sshing into it, i would like to remotely control a particular window (and see the output on both the remote machine and the host terminal window that is open via Ctrl Alt F2
[20:27] <theperfectpunk> OerHerk: thanks anyways
[20:27] <bekks> Lunario: That implies "using ssh".
[20:27] <Jordan4ibanez> When I upgrade to ubuntu 14.10 I get this error: Error authenticating some packages It was not possible to authenticate some packages. This may be a transient network problem. You may want to try again later. See below for a list of unauthenticated packages.
[20:27] <Jordan4ibanez> libgbm1
[20:27] <Lunario> when i ssh into it i get a new terminal window, but i would like to control a specific one
[20:27] <Jordan4ibanez> Google does not have anything to offer on this
[20:27] <prote> why would anyone registrar when your password is not private ... is it just to keep a specific nickname ... is there any other reason
[20:28] <bekks> prote: Why isnt your password private?
[20:28] <EriC^^> Lunario: you can use ttylog to attach to the tty
[20:28] <bubbasaures> Jordan4ibanez, This on a upgrade attempt or after an upgrade?
[20:28] <OerHeks> Lunario, ah, you want to take over an running window, not sure that can be don
[20:28] <Jordan4ibanez> On an upgrade attempt
[20:28] <OerHeks> +e
[20:28] <Lunario> OerHeks: exactly :)
[20:28] <EriC^^> prote: it is private, you added a space before "/"
[20:29] <EriC^^> /nickserv register <password> <email>
[20:29] <bubbasaures> Jordan4ibanez, 3rd party repos and packages installed are a common problem, missing keys...etc.
[20:29] <EriC^^> that's what you should type ( it wont be outputted here, i used a special char before "/" )
[20:30] <Lunario> EriC^^: thanks, I am checking it out
[20:30] <Jordan4ibanez> Oh damn, I didn't even think about that! Thank you
[20:30] <bubbasaures> Jordan4ibanez, I assume your aware that 14.04 has 5 years support, 14.10 is shorter.
[20:30] <Jordan4ibanez> Yes
[20:31] <bubbasaures> Jordan4ibanez, If the issues are ppa's are you familiar with ppa-purge?
[20:31] <prote> also i closed hexchat and restarted it & i didn't need to enter a PW
[20:32] <egreb> Hi! I have installed ubuntu on my desktop computer. After i open firefox it shutdowns after aprox 1 min. Does anyone have any clue on why this is happening and how i can fix it?
[20:32] <bekks> prote: Are you identified to freenode services?
[20:32] <Jordan4ibanez> Nah I'm just unchecking the boxes in the gui so I can be sure I get all my ppas back
[20:32] <prote> yes
[20:33] <kazdax> http://pastebin.com/qnftizfX
[20:33] <kazdax> when i try installing apache
[20:34] <bubbasaures> Jordan4ibanez, Not all PPA's may be supporting 14.10, and you may have packages from them that will conflict is all.
[20:34] <Jordan4ibanez> Is there a way to ppa purge the entire system?
[20:34] <bubbasaures> !ppa-purge | Jordan4ibanez No one at a time
[20:35] <bekks> kazdax: Close your software center.
[20:36] <kazdax> it wanst opened bekks
[20:36] <prote> why is my ip openly available ... can i hide it
[20:36] <EriC^^> prote: you can get a cloak from #freenode
[20:36] <seronis> you can go into   #freenode and ask for a cloak
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> egreb: try running it from Terminal, it may give clues
[20:36] <bubbasaures> prote, You can register and wait a short time and ask for a cloak at #freenode
[20:37] <seronis> cloaks dont hide you from channel ops though. they can still ban you if you misbehave
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt | kazdax
[20:37] <EriC^^> prote: yeah, that's what bnc's and vhosts are for
[20:37] <EriC^^> :P
[20:38] <egreb> ActionParsnip: what kinda clues? will i have time to see them before the systems shut down?
[20:38] <prote> thanks
[20:39] <kazdax> should i kill all processes ?
[20:39] <kazdax> ohh it says kill a particular process
[20:39] <kazdax> not the number of them running
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> egreb: oh a system shutdown. Test RAM from Grub. There is Memtest86 in a default install
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> kazdax: yes kill the process
[20:41] <coredump> anyone here intimate with launchpad build process? I want to upload a backported package using backportpackage but it depends on other stuff that needs to be backported. Do you know if I can upload the dependencies first and then the builder will use it to build other packageS?
[20:41] <trism> coredump: yes it will use other packages in the same ppa as deps
[20:42] <coredump> uhu, thanks!
[20:42] <egreb> ActionParsnip: ok ty, will try that now
[20:42] <trism> coredump: also if you click on edit ppa deps, you can add addition ppas to the list checked
[20:43] <coredump> trism this is also awesome. Thanks. Apache 2.2 bite me in the arse today :|
[20:43] <coredump> s/bite/bit
[20:45] <ur5us> is anybody using `htmldoc` to convert html to pdf? I'm migrating from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 and nothing about the html changes but under 14.04 no links are working and embedded images (PNG in my case) are broken. I slowly start to suspect that the htmldoc binary or one of its linked libs are broken
[20:47] <JakeL300> Hi
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> ur5us: why not use a PDF printer? You can print from your web browser and make a PDF....
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> !info cups-pdf
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> ur5us: or are you doing lots of files?
[20:49] <ur5us> ActionParsnip: because it's used as part of a web app and the document needs a table of contents
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> !info wkhtmltopdf
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Ur5us: maybe that?
[20:54] <ur5us> yes, I know about some alternatives though for now I was just asking whether it's just me or is htmldoc really broken
[20:55] <ur5us> wkhtmltopdf is my next go to place but it'll require to make changes to the app code which I try to avoid at the moment
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> ur5us: if you see an issue I suggest you report a bug
[20:56] <ur5us> I haven't filed a bug report for Ubuntu yet, any tips?
[20:56] <effzee07> can someone help with an instlal of ubuntu on a brand new built pc that has no OS currently?
[20:57] <basil1x> effzee07, USB or CD/DVD?
[20:57] <effzee07> ive tried doing the iso on a usb stick and on a dvd.....when i go to boot either one it just says boot failure insert disk
[20:57] <basil1x> AH
[20:58] <basil1x> Have you turned off the rather annoying SecureBoot nonsense?
[20:58] <effzee07> doesnt ring a bell? is that in the bios somewhere?
[20:58] <Bashing-om> effzee07: New system, is this an EFI system booting ?
[20:58] <basil1x> It would be, yes.
[20:59] <effzee07> is it pretty self explanitory to find in the bios?
[20:59] <basil1x> there'll be instruxions on the boot splash screen.
[21:00] <basil1x> Usually press F2, F10, F12 or Del as the initial boot is happening.
[21:00] <effzee07> ill go check it out real quick and see if i can find it
[21:04] <MindSpark> hi, is there a way to generate a private key from a public key?
[21:04] <effzee07> basil1x i went into bios and dont see anything pertaining to a secure boot thing
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: no, or it would be massively unsecure
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: anyone can read the public key on the system
[21:05] <DarkLinkXXXX> When installing icedtea-netx, I get an update-altnernatives error.
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: you'll need to generate a new keypair and put the new public key on the server
[21:05] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip: then how does a client send encrypted data using the public key which can be decrypted using the private key?
[21:05] <OerHeks> MindSpark, do you realise what you are asking?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: the client has the private key.....
[21:06] <MindSpark> OerHeks: not really, haven't studied that in depth
[21:06] <basil1x> effzee07, If it's an EFI computer, there will be a setting somewhere.
[21:06] <MindSpark> oh, ok, I have an ec2 instance, so what I've downloaded from aws is the private key, not the public...?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Ur5us: you can run: ubuntu-bug htmldoc
[21:07] <effzee07> is the EFI regarding the 2.2 or greater hdd? if so i only have 500gb
[21:07] <basil1x> effzee07, HDD size is not important.
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: what is the filename you have?
[21:07] <MindSpark> filename.pem
[21:08] <OerHeks> MindSpark, you sign with the private, and the public key is to decrypt, we have a nice howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[21:08] <Bashing-om> !uefi | effzee07
[21:08] <MindSpark> OerHeks: alright, thanks!
[21:09] <ur5us> ActionParsnip: thanks
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8193768/trying-to-ssh-into-an-amazon-ec2-instance-permission-error
[21:09] <basil1x> Thanks, om.  I never remember about those.
[21:10] <OerHeks> MindSpark,  ec2, you want this too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2StartersGuide#Types_of_credentials
[21:12] <MindSpark> OerHeks and ActionParsnip you guys seem to know more about this, would it be ok if I ask about ec2?
[21:13]  * OerHeks has almost 0 experience with EC2
[21:13] <Rexter> I could really use some help with the wget command.
[21:14] <_ryan> does anyone see issues mounting zfs shares at boot with 14.04 LTS / generic kernel 3.3.0-39?  it is crashing me every time
[21:14] <MindSpark> I just created a public key using the private key I downloaded, and put it in authorized_keys. SSH works fine. But I am afraid the authorized_keys file might be rewritten on reboot. Does that happen?
[21:14] <OerHeks> MindSpark, there is a ##aws channel here on #freenode too :-) no, keys are not rewritten on reboot.
[21:15] <effzee07> i found EFI setting to turn on or off. Tried it both ways with same error
[21:15] <MindSpark> OerHeks: perfect, thanks a lot!
[21:15] <OerHeks> have fun
[21:15] <Rexter> I'm trying to download a folder and all it's contents using wget. Is there a wget expert here today?
[21:17] <ivanoreh> pkoretic
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: not used it.  I run my own servers. I don't need hosting
[21:20] <Rexter> I just want a specific folder, but it downloads the entire server. I need some help with wget.
[21:21] <small_G> goce
[21:22] <gr33n7007h> Rexter, wget -r -l1 --no-parent <url>
[21:22] <OerHeks> Rexter wget --level=1 <url>
[21:22] <OerHeks> gr33n7007h, +1  indeed, or  -l1
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Rexter: man wget
[21:23] <Rexter> gr33n7007h; thank you. When I say I just want the one folder, I mean 100% of it's contents. Won't the -l1 prevent this?
[21:24] <gr33n7007h> Rexter, will get the whole contents of the directory specified
[21:24] <Rexter> ActionParsnip, thank you for the RTFM, but that's a but one. I think one could make a wget certification course out of that one! ;)
[21:25] <effzee07> why the crap cant i put ubuntu on this new pc? tried everything i can think of. always says boot failure
[21:25] <Rexter> gr33n7007h; help me understand the -l1 option, what does that do?
[21:25] <EriC^^> effzee07: efi?
[21:26] <effzee07> EriC^^ ive tried with efi on and off
[21:26] <teaearlgraycold> effzee07, you disable secureboot?
[21:26] <EriC^^> did you checksum the iso?
[21:26] <effzee07> cant figure that out in my bios....dont see anything relating to secureboot
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> effzee07: does the install complete?
[21:27] <effzee07> i cant even get it to do anything....alway says boot failure insert disk
[21:27] <teaearlgraycold> If the machine came with Win8 you need to disable secure boot
[21:27] <teaearlgraycold> That's why you can't boot Ubuntu I'm 90% sure
[21:27] <gr33n7007h> Rexter, man wget | grep level :)
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> effzee07: how did you put the data on the USB (or CD)
[21:29] <effzee07> there is no OS on the PC at all. i put it on the dvd using disk burn image option, and on usb i did it thru pendrivelinux thing
[21:29] <teaearlgraycold> Some flash drives have issues being made bootable
[21:29] <teaearlgraycold> Could just be that
[21:30] <EriC^^> effzee07: yeah so the usb doesn't boot?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> effzee07: so you never extracted the ISO?
[21:30] <JakeL300> xD
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> effzee07: try Unetbootin , may help
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> effzee07: because you don't want to extract the file.
[21:32] <effzee07> the usb nor dvd will do anything. What do you mean extract it? i plug it in the new pc and select boot from dvd or usb and it says error. sorry for the lack of knowledge...this is my first pc build and first attempt at linux
[21:32] <EriC^^> effzee07: did you checksum the iso?
[21:34] <gr33n7007h> effzee07, `md5sum /path/to/ubuntu.iso` then check it at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[21:34] <effzee07> EriC^^: not sure what that is
[21:35] <EriC^^> effzee07: download a program that gets the md5sum
[21:35] <EriC^^> effzee07: it lets you know that the iso is ok and nothing is missing or anything
[21:36] <hellpe> hello
[21:36] <hellpe> I'm having trouble formatting a SD card with Disks
[21:36] <EriC^^> effzee07: http://www.nullriver.com/downloads/Install-winMd5Sum.exe
[21:36] <og01> during the installation, I want to use block devices without partition tables, how can i do this?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> effzee07: you don't extract the file, that's my point :-)
[21:37] <hellpe> here how it looks like: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-16112014-223358.php
[21:37] <og01> ie i have one device i want to use as /boot, another as / and another as /var
[21:37] <og01> I dont want to have to partition these block devices first
[21:37] <hellpe> and when I try formatting the whole card, I get this error message: "Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)"
[21:38] <EriC^^> og01: why not?
[21:38] <EriC^^> ( might a dare ask )
[21:38] <EriC^^> *i
[21:38] <og01> EriC^^: they are block devices from a virtual host which I want to grow from the host side without having to resize the partiontable
[21:39] <og01> (lvm on host, presented to guest as virtio)
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> hellpe: try using dd or dban to wipe the disk, or do you want the other partition?
[21:39] <MagicSpud> hello I am using a Y-BN52 logitech keyboard...it was working fine untill now...all the extras stopped working I can t use calculator, nor favourites nor record player controls now how do I configure keyboard model in ubuntu??
[21:40] <og01> it should be as simple as using any normal partition, so I would be surprised if this were not possible...
[21:40] <hellpe> ActionParsnip, didn't tried dd, and I don't mind wiping the other partition
[21:40] <hellpe> my goal is to have a 16 Go partition, so I can use that SD card in a camera
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> hellpe: if you zero the storage it may help
[21:41] <hellpe> ActionParsnip, already tried that within Disks, got the same issue
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> hellpe: try dd or dban then
[21:41] <Amnasia> http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/IMG_1222.jpg
[21:41] <Amnasia> hi
[21:42] <squinty>  hellpe  or  gparted for gui app
[21:42] <og01> any way i can manually set the root/boot partitions without using the ui?
[21:42] <og01> (during installation)
[21:44] <og01> i google manual installation and all i find is using the console based UI
[21:44] <Amnasia> ubuntu the inmates OS
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Og01: once installed you can chroot to the installed OS and  add bootoptions as normal
[21:44] <effzee07> EriC^^: i'm trying it now
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> Amnasia: how do you mean?
[21:45] <Amnasia> what do i mean?
[21:45] <bekks> Amnasia: Do you have a specific ubuntu support question?
[21:45] <og01> ActionParsnip: hmm, i guess I could always do that, seems a lot of work to do somehing simple though...
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> Amnasia: yes, that is what I asked.....
[21:45] <Amnasia> how do you mean doesnt compute
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> og01: on first boot, you can hold SHIFT amd edit the boot in grub itself
[21:46] <Amnasia> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/11/gallery-a-rare-peek-of-san-quentin-prison-and-its-newbie-coders/
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Amnasia: what do you mean whan you say 'inmates OS'?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Amnasia: what does it mean?
[21:46] <Amnasia> it means just tyhat5
[21:47] <bekks> Amnasia: Do you have a specific ubuntu support question?
[21:47] <og01> ActionParsnip: im not sure how that helps, I would like to format what is essentially a raw block device, and then install ubuntu to that (those)
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Amnasia: its too abstract, so I am asking for you to expand on the idea with details
[21:47] <Amnasia> ActionParsnip: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[21:48] <galup> bonsoir
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> og01: what does that have to do with boot options?
[21:48] <galup> bonsoir
[21:48] <EriC^^> galup: bonsoir
[21:48] <EriC^^> galup: /join #ubuntu-fr
[21:48] <og01> Some people have too much time, perhaps Amnasia is one of those inmates?
[21:48] <galup> eric comment?
[21:49] <Amnasia> lol i found myself talking on some other channel thinking i was at #ubuntu
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> og01: if the storage is problematic then zeroing it off should help
[21:49] <k1l_> guys, lets focus on support in here. thanks
[21:49] <Amnasia> you cant kick someone out off prison
[21:49] <k1l_> Amnasia: stick to the guidelines the bot just linked to you or stay out of this channel. thanks
[21:49] <og01> ActionParsnip: Im not sure I'm following now
[21:50] <EriC^^> galup: /join #ubuntu-fr pour parler en francais
[21:50] <effzee07> EriC^^: I have the SUM from that program, but the website to compare to doesn't seem to be working. Any other link or idea?
[21:50] <EriC^^> galup: ou parler en englais
[21:50] <galup> j y suis mais personne ne repond
[21:50] <k1l_> !fr | galup
[21:50] <EriC^^> tu parle englais?
[21:51] <galup> non
[21:51] <og01> ActionParsnip: During the installation of ubuntu server, I chose the manual option for configuring disk, I simply want select /dev/vba as /boot and /dev/vbb as / and /dev/vbc as /var
[21:51] <og01> ActionParsnip: and then proceed with the installation
[21:51] <EriC^^> effzee07: hold on
[21:51] <EriC^^> effzee07: which version of ubuntu do you have
[21:51] <EriC^^> and arch
[21:52] <effzee07> 14.04.1
[21:52] <og01> ActionParsnip: I could do this in distro's which have a more manual aproach to installation, its simple and no more complex than using a partitioned device, its just a matter of procedure
[21:53] <og01> bah ActionParsnip has gone
[21:53] <EriC^^> effzee07: amd64?
[21:53] <effzee07> yes
[21:53] <EriC^^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[21:54] <og01> if anyone else can help, I would like to use raw block devices as /boot, /, and /var during ubuntu server installation
[21:54] <pasta_soul> Hello ubuntu-ers..
[21:54] <EriC^^> effzee07: 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd
[21:54] <Amnasia> actionparsnip is a prison guard
[21:54] <pasta_soul> can anyone help me with this -->   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2253030
[21:54] <effzee07> EriC^^: it matches that
[21:54] <EriC^^> Amnasia: ah, inmates OS, now i get it
[21:55] <hellpe> I've fixed my issue, thanks a lot
[21:55] <EriC^^> ... and :D
[21:55] <EriC^^> gj k1l_
[21:56] <EriC^^> effzee07: ok
[21:57] <pasta_soul> well
[21:58] <Bashing-om> og01: While installing grub to a partition is discouraged, it can be done: see: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Install_to_partition_or_partitionless_disk . Does this help ? (middle of the turorial)
[21:58] <nwp> OK, so which package do I file a bug against... setting a startup app to not start in "Startup Applications" prefs in utopic is now ignored and it starts anyway, it seems. App in question is the gnome ssh agent.
[21:59] <nwp> I'm guessing the "Startup Applications" pref is a Gnome thing and now that upstart is starting the user session, it is completely ignored.
[22:00] <julia1968> unusual problem: my network conn disconnects almost immediately after connecting to github.. either via the web or git clone. could it be something ssl related? I'm on 14.04 and rtl8187l
[22:00] <WASH_JONES> Hi all, I'm having some trouble getting Enigmail/GPG to work with Thunderbird on Ubuntu 14.10. Why I try to import the GnuPG .asc files in the Enigmail setup wizard, it gives me this error:
[22:00] <WASH_JONES> gpg: failed to create temporary file `/home/user/.gnupg/.#lk0xcf1080.chrubuntu.5788': Permission denied
[22:00] <WASH_JONES> gpg: keyblock resource `/home/user/.gnupg/secring.gpg': general error
[22:00] <WASH_JONES> gpg: failed to create temporary file `/home/user/.gnupg/.#lk0xcf1080.chrubuntu.5788': Permission denied
[22:00] <WASH_JONES> gpg: keyblock resource `/home/user/.gnupg/pubring.gpg': general error
[22:00] <WASH_JONES> gpg: no writable keyring found: eof
[22:00] <unopaste> WASH_JONES you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:01] <julia1968> other connections seem to be fine.. just github causing issues
[22:01] <og01> Bashing-om: admitadly I hadnt considered the bootsector, but i can work around that, I dont mind having a partitioned /boot mount, its more  / and /var that i want to dynamicly resize from a vm host
[22:01] <WASH_JONES> Hi all, I'm having some trouble getting Enigmail/GPG to work with Thunderbird on Ubuntu 14.10. Why I try to import the GnuPG .asc files in the Enigmail setup wizard, it gives me this error:
[22:02] <WASH_JONES> gpg: failed to create temporary file `/home/user/.gnupg/.#lk0xcf1080.chrubuntu.5788': Permission denied
[22:02] <og01> Bashing-om: in anycase is the only solution to install ubuntu and then rejigg everything afterwards?
[22:02] <k1l_> WASH_JONES: use a pastebin please
[22:02] <WASH_JONES> Righto
[22:02] <Gerowen> I have a question.
[22:03] <ryaxnb> hey i have to use i8042.reset to make suspend work on my Acer travelmate
[22:03] <dabadie> Hi, how can i enable an vnc connection to my KDE desktop from boot?
[22:03] <ryaxnb> the problem is when i use that, some part of GNOME/XFCE stops working with the touchpad
[22:03] <ryaxnb> it's only a thing that loads when GNOME does (maybe a touchpad driver?)
[22:03] <ryaxnb> because IceWM works fine as does the lightdm
[22:04] <ryaxnb> but as soon as GNOME/XFCE loads, the touchpad stops working
[22:04] <Gerowen> Let's say I have an audio feed coming into a line-in jack, and I want to broadcast that audio feed in a way so that other people could click a link to a file and listen to it, what would be the best software for that?
[22:04] <Bashing-om> og01: Working a Virtual Machine is far from my sphere of knowledge, I have not had ocassion to learn .
[22:04] <kazdax> okay i got apache installed and i did 127.0.0.1 and there is a page
[22:04] <kazdax> now how do i make my page accessible to the public
[22:04] <kazdax> i have a router and it uses an ip number
[22:04] <ryaxnb> what software does GNOME load, but not IceWM, that might interfere with touchpads?
[22:04] <ryaxnb> so i can just stop it from loading
[22:04] <kazdax> my computer connects threw the router
[22:05] <ryaxnb> :/
[22:05] <kazdax> so i have to tell the router to allow people to access port 80
[22:05] <ryaxnb> or is there some other magic option that fixes this
[22:05] <og01> Bashing-om: its as simple as I have LVM on the host and I am giving access of those block devices to a vm, the vm sees devices such as /vda /vdb /vdc etc and i can resize them from the host('s lvm)
[22:06] <og01> Bashing-om: doing so would effectivly resize the block devices in the guest, resizing a partition table is a bit of a pain, and it would be easier without having to partition each block device I present to the guest
[22:07] <og01> Bashing-om: I'm continuing anyway, I have an alternate solution, I am adding two block devices, one will be partitioned (im acutally using the auto feature with LVM enabled), the second will be added to the vg raw
[22:07] <og01> I can then resize the second one easily
[22:08] <og01> and reallocate within the guest at a whim
[22:12] <EL3> Hi I got a pcduino3. If I want to install a LAMP server, what distro would you suggest I use for this?
[22:13] <og01> EL3: ubuntu?
[22:13] <EL3> Yes
[22:13] <og01> EL3: no i mean I suggest ubuntu
[22:14] <buck11> what channel to ask about ubuntu patchsets?  in specific: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/python2.7/precise-security/view/head:/debian/patches/distutils-install-layout.diff#L282
[22:14] <ryaxnb> anyone know why GNOME is causing my keyboard and touchpad to fail on the i8042
[22:14] <ryaxnb> but not icewm or non-GNOME
[22:15] <EL3> Okey, well I got one img from http://www.pcduino.com/images-pcduino3/ but can I use one of this http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/arm instead?
[22:15] <EL3> og01:
[22:16] <og01> EL3: ultimatly you probably can use any arm based distro including the ubuntu officals, but I would imagine that using the packaged version provided by pcDuino would be the easiest bet
[22:16] <og01> EL3: any reason you dont want to use their image?
[22:17] <og01> EL3: they're probably using their own specific kernel patches, and possibly other modifications
[22:17] <EL3> I couldnt get add-apt-repository to work, and someone suggestet that Lianaro was not mainstream enough :)
[22:18] <og01> EL3: why wouldnt add-apt-repository work?
[22:18] <EL3> og01: Well the problem started with, that I want to upgrade the php version.
[22:19] <EL3> link to my question http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26962319/python-error-could-not-find-a-distribution-template-when-add-apt-repository
[22:21] <og01> EL3: hmm that is strange, im not sure why they need to use a different ID, the images page advertises Ubuntu, but the output of lsb-release looks like a fork
[22:21] <og01> EL3: anyway there is a workaround for thsi
[22:21] <og01> EL3: you dont have to use add-apt-repository
[22:22] <og01> EL3: You can add the repo to your /etc/apt/sources.list file manually
[22:22] <EL3> og01: okey. Can you guide me maybe?
[22:22] <EL3> okey
[22:23] <EL3> og01: so if I wanted to add this add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php5 What should I add to the file?
[22:24] <og01> EL3: one sec
[22:24] <og01> EL3: this is the ppa page: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php5
[22:25] <og01> EL3: on this page there is a Technical details about this PPA link
[22:25] <og01> click that and it'll show you the lines you need to add to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[22:25] <EL3> og01: okey thank you very much
[22:26] <og01> where is says YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE you need to use the one that your distro is based on
[22:26] <og01> EL3: err... i think it said Trusty somewhere... one sec let me check
[22:27] <og01> EL3: sorry precise
[22:27] <Abby> hello
[22:27] <EL3> is it based on precise?
[22:27] <og01> EL3: so in this case add, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5/ubuntu precise main
[22:27] <bekks> That repo does not provide packages for ARM.
[22:28] <EL3> okey
[22:28] <og01> bekks: ah well spotted
[22:28] <bekks> It will be useless for your pcduino.
[22:28] <EL3> oh
[22:28] <og01> must admit i forgot to consider that
[22:30] <EL3> Okey so would it be easier to reinstall the lampserver maybe?
[22:30] <squinty> or take it to a relevant channel like #ubuntu-arm
[22:31] <EL3> ahh thank you, squinty, did not no about that.
[22:33] <igoryonya> when I try to CONNECT on squid, I get the following error: URL http://94.100.180.228:2042/; The administrator may not allow this cache to make direct connections to origin servers. This only happens, when trying to CONNECT to ip addresses, when using domains, it works fine.
[22:36] <ReScO> hey people
[22:36] <ReScO> what do i need to be able to send and recieve mail from my server?
[22:37] <Castaneda> Greetings! How can I creat a .dat file on ubuntu server?
[22:37] <bekks> Castaneda: Easiest way: "touch myfile.dat". File extensions are totally irrelevant, actually.
[22:37] <k1l_> Castaneda: touch file.dat
[22:38] <Castaneda> i need to work with gnuplot
[22:38] <k1l_> Castaneda: but what do you want to do at all?
[22:38] <Assassin> Salve
[22:39] <Castaneda> basically i want to create a file which will contain a 2 column table with numbers
[22:39] <Castaneda> and then take this file and use it on gnuplot
[22:39] <k1l_> Castaneda: well. just use a regular text file, put the data in there and then name it to file.dat
[22:39] <Castaneda> ok
[22:40] <squinty> ReScO:  there is a specific ubuntu server channel   #ubuntu-server
[22:40] <igoryonya> when I try to CONNECT on squid, I get the following error: URL http://94.100.180.228:2042/; The administrator may not allow this cache to make direct connections to origin servers. This only happens, when trying to CONNECT to ip addresses, when using domains, it works fine.
[22:40] <igoryonya> i am using cache_peer
[22:41] <Rexter> Hi, would you be willing to help me better understand wget? The man pages are quite complex, and I have questions.
[22:42] <igoryonya> Rexter ,what's exactly the question
[22:43] <Gerowen> Rexter: wget downloads a given URL to the folder you are currently located in when you run it.  So if you want to download the file to a folder named "Downloads", it would look like:
[22:43] <Gerowen> cd /home/me/Downloads
[22:43] <Gerowen> wget someURL
[22:44] <k1l_> Rexter: what is the issue?
[22:44] <Rexter> igoryonya; the -l options. I'm not sure I can ask an intelligent question about it. Which way in the directory tree does it apply too?
[22:44] <bekks> Gerowen: More easy: wget -O Downloads/target.file URL-of-source-file
[22:46] <Rexter> kil; please give me an example of why one might use the -m options as opposed to the -r option.
[22:47] <Rexter> k1l_; please give me an example of why one might use the -m options as opposed to the -r option.
[22:47] <Ben64> Rexter: -m       --mirror  \\\          Turn on options suitable for mirroring.  This option turns on           recursion and time-stamping, sets infinite recursion depth and           keeps FTP directory listings.  It is currently equivalent to -r -N -l inf --no-remove-listing.
[22:48] <Rexter> Ben64, so if I wanted to download a folder, all contents, and all child folders, would the -m option be appropriate?
[22:49] <Ben64> Rexter: yep
[22:50] <igoryonya> Rexter, I think it talks about an FTP depth, but I don't know if it works the same way with an HTTP protocol, if it does, I guess, it recursively download the a href links until the specified depth. But to be true, I've never done such downloads, usually, just download single files.
[22:51] <igoryonya> Gerowen, Rexter, someURL should be 'someURL', enclosed in quotes, otherwise some urls will not work, because the shell might parse some characters
[22:55] <oscarhbp> active hdmi
[22:55] <Rexter> okay, I have a specific that I'm trying to do at the moment, but I don't just want a copy, and past answer. I really want to understand the options, so that next time, I'm better able to ask intelligent questions.: There is a folder I need to download with a complete set folders, and files. I need the entire thing, all folders inside, and all contents , just like if I did a copy, and past of a folder. Would I use -l1 --no-parrent, or wou
[22:55] <Rexter> ld -m do just as well? Why?
[22:55] <oscarhbp> en ubuntu 14.10
[22:55] <htovktjane> i am new to ubuntu its fantastic
[22:57] <htovktjane> fantastic 14.10
[23:00] <Rexter> Ben64 igoryonya k1l_ Gerowen; did you see my question?
[23:00] <Gerowen> What's a good option for streaming audio coming in from a "Line In" jack to an internet feed that other people could listen to in their browser regardless of their OS?
[23:02] <Ben64> Rexter: the man page really does explain it better than i could. if you're transferring from a folder you own, wget is not the best though
[23:05] <Rexter> Ben64, ah you cut yourself short. the reason I'm here is because the man page provides no examples.
[23:05] <Ben64> Rexter: it does
[23:06] <Rexter> Ben64 ok, so I want all these files: http://getdrunkonmovies.com/files/gungame/  how would you do it, and more importantly, why?
[23:07] <Ben64> wget -m -np
[23:07] <anurizm> ok so I'm following this tutorial to dual boot my macbook with ubuntu- http://www.howtogeek.com/187410/how-to-install-and-dual-boot-linux-on-a-mac/
[23:07] <squinty> Rexter:  and a lot of participants here try things for themselves to see the optimum proceedure that meets their needs.   simple enough to do... try both settings and then compare.  disregard the one that doesn't work for you ;-)
[23:07] <anurizm> i got to the ubuntu installation process. but ubuntu says "there is no other OS detected on this computer"
[23:07] <anurizm> its supposed to say "install ubuntu alongside"
[23:09] <squinty> anurizm:  might want to check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI   to see if anything is relevant to your particular setup
[23:09] <Rexter> How would you choose to do it squinty?
[23:09] <Ben64> Rexter: would you just try something already
[23:10] <squinty> Rexter:  immaterial
[23:12] <Rexter> squinty, not for you to decide what in immaterial to me, however it is your prerogative to refuse to share, if it satisfies your ego.
[23:13] <k1l_> Rexter: could you please try not  to make a drama in here?
[23:13] <Ben64> Rexter: try talking less here, and reading the man page and trying what it says more, i've already given you a solution to this, you're just wasting time now
[23:13] <k1l_> Rexter: i think people in here answered you and you should have a working solution. what is the issue now?
[23:14] <Rexter> Thank you Ben64 for the info.
[23:15] <squinty> Rexter:  you asked me a question, I gave you an answer...if you don't like it you know what to do
[23:16] <toothe> what's the difference between LTS?
[23:16] <toothe> and non-LTS, such as 13.03?
[23:16] <Rexter> toothe, there is no 13.03
[23:16] <Ben64> toothe: LTS is Long Term Support, they are supported for 5 years. other releases are supported for 9 months.
[23:17] <k1l_> toothe: lts (12.04 and 14.04) have 5 years support time. the other ones only last 9 month, then you need to upgrade
[23:17] <toothe> Rexter: Pardon.
[23:17] <toothe> as a regular workstation, does it matter for me?
[23:17] <toothe> I suppose not...
[23:17] <Ben64> it should
[23:17] <toothe> let me ask a more focused question
[23:18] <Rexter> toothe, there is however a 13.04 - 2013 fourth month
[23:18] <toothe> what are your experiences with non-LTS? I've only used LTS for my work machine.
[23:18] <bekks> toothe: Yes. If you dont want to upgrade every 9 months.
[23:18] <k1l_> toothe: do you want to upgrade all 6 months?
[23:18] <toothe> depnds what upgrading entails.
[23:18] <hecatae> anyone built firefox developer edition for ubuntu?
[23:18] <Rexter> toothe, you can think of a non-LTS as a preview of what's to come.
[23:18] <k1l_> toothe: going from 14.10 to 15.04.
[23:18] <bekks> toothe: Upgrading the entire release from lets say 13.04 to 13.10
[23:18] <k1l_> Rexter: that is plain not true.
[23:18] <toothe> Lets suppose I don't upgrade. what are the downsides?
[23:19] <k1l_> toothe: no bug and security upgrades. like the shellshock stuff etc will still be vulnerable
[23:19] <Rexter> toothe, k1l_ is actually right, it's more like things that might come.
[23:19] <toothe> ahh...
[23:20] <toothe> so, silly question then...won't normal apt-get's fix such issues?
[23:20] <joe1> hecatae, try  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/11/mozilla-releases-firefox-developer-edition
[23:20] <Ben64> toothe: the repositories get shut down, hence "End Of Life"
[23:20] <k1l_> toothe: no, because ubuntu doesnt provide updates that apt-get can "just download" after its out of support time
[23:20] <toothe> oh wow...
[23:20] <toothe> that's pretty bad
[23:20] <toothe> yeha, LTS then
[23:21] <hecatae> joe1, trying the firefox-aurora ppa first
[23:21] <toothe> wow, just 6 months...?
[23:21] <k1l_> toothe: so it comes down to: use a lts or upgrade all 6 months.
[23:21] <toothe> yeah, LTS...
[23:21] <Ben64> or upgrade every 6 months, whichever you prefer
[23:21] <toothe> no, i don't think i'd want to upgrade every 6 months
[23:21] <toothe> that's pretty horrible.
[23:21] <k1l_> toothe: so stay with lts then
[23:21] <Ben64> some people like the newest of everything
[23:21] <toothe> yeah. I think ill get kubuntu
[23:22] <basil1x> butbutbutbutbut... it's soooo much fun, never knowing what'll come out the other side!  Like auntie's cooking. ;)
[23:22] <toothe> out of all the distro's i've tried, I feel like Ubuntu does it the best
[23:22] <toothe> Its "business-like", while not being like Redhat.
[23:23] <hecatae> joe1,  the ppa has it, completely overwrote the default
[23:23] <Rexter> toothe, yea Ubuntu is great, many distros use it as their base.
[23:24] <toothe> and UBuntu itself uses debian.
[23:26] <Rexter> toothe, yes, but there are modifications to such a point that there are many incompatibilities  there. Most of the distros down-stream are more compatible with Ubuntu than Ubuntu is with Debian.
[23:27] <toothe> Rexter: ahh..
[23:28] <toothe> as silly as this sounds, to me LInux is Linux
[23:28] <toothe> whether you're using Slackware or Yellowdog (Do they still make that?)
[23:28] <toothe> but, I think when you get to the core of the OS, its not all the same.
[23:29] <the-legend> list
[23:30] <Rexter> toothe, Linux is a kernel, not an OS. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but calling Redhat, or Ubuntu Linux is kinds like calling a desktop towed a hard drive. Yes th hard drive is a key part of any tower, but there is much more to a desktop tower than the hard drive.
[23:30] <Rexter> tower, not towed
[23:31] <toothe> Rexter: yeah, I get that technical difference
[23:31] <toothe> Linux = Kernel
[23:31] <toothe> but in regular speech, I don't call it "Ubuntu"
[23:31] <toothe> I cal it Linux.
[23:32] <bekks> toothe: Which is wrong and leads to misunderstandings.
[23:33] <Rexter> toothe, challenge, go to the Ubuntu web-site. Find the word Linux.
[23:34] <Flannel> Guys, take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[23:36] <toothe> lol, really?
[23:36] <toothe> their search feature made it easy for me.
[23:37] <Blaster> The word linux is on the homepage. It's in the HTML. What do I win?
[23:38] <fttt5> hi
[23:38] <fttt5> im trying to install wine and having problems
[23:39] <Rexter> toothe; lol you got me,  that's not what I meant.
[23:39] <fttt5> its says there are package dependancies that cannot b resolved
[23:39] <toothe> Rexter: I get you...
[23:39] <toothe> Rexter: They don't see themselves as "Linux" but as an full-fledged OS.
[23:39] <Flannel> Rexter, toothe, Blaster: Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:39] <k1l_> fttt5: please show that error in a pastebin
[23:39] <fttt5> ok
[23:39] <toothe> Flannel: This is quite on-topic...
[23:40] <Flannel> toothe: No it's not.  It's not related to technical support in the slightest.
[23:40] <toothe> this is only a support channel, nothing more?
[23:40] <Wayward_Vagabond> Could somebody recomend a peice of software to split up about 40 PDFs into individual file? (one image per page)
[23:40] <k1l_> toothe: Rexter that is unfair for the users who come here to solve their support issues. we have a nother channel for the chitchat. so please stick to the rules that are for all users
[23:40] <Flannel> toothe: correct.  Chat, discussions "About" ubuntu, etc, all belong in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[23:40] <toothe> okay, fair.
[23:41] <toothe> i remember years ago on efnet there was #FreeBSD and #FreeBSDhelp
[23:41] <toothe> err, that's off-topic too
[23:41] <fttt5> http://pastebin.com/p1QHP5Uw
[23:41] <k1l_> toothe: you were asked 3 times now to change that to #ubuntu-offtopic. there will be no 4th time.
[23:42] <k1l_> fttt5: is there a PPA active?
[23:42] <Flannel> fttt5: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[23:43] <toothe> k1l_: Pardon.
[23:43] <k1l_> fttt5: please show in a pastebin "apt-cache policy wine1.4"
[23:43] <fttt5> 13.10
[23:43] <fttt5> whats ppa?
[23:44] <fttt5> what the apt cache policy?
[23:44] <fttt5> whats
[23:44] <Ben64> fttt5: looks like you're mixing repositories or something else bad
[23:44] <Cream222> Hi all
[23:44] <Ben64> fttt5: pastebin the output of the command  "apt-cache policy wine1.4"
[23:44] <fttt5> ive only just booted it from dvd
[23:44] <fttt5> ok
[23:44] <k1l_> fttt5: it will show where the package is coming from. that info will help us see the reason for the issue
[23:45] <kandinski> we're getting this "HWE no longer supported" error on a server at work http://imgur.com/FC2zyBH, the server is in a VMWare hypervisor. What does this mean?
[23:45] <Cream222> need some help with a RIAD 5 leo.org
[23:45] <k1l_> fttt5: well, 13.10 is end of life already. you need to upgrade to 14.04 anyway. maybe the issue is gone then anyway
[23:45] <brucelee> sysctl -w, and -p whats the difference between those options?
[23:45] <k1l_> kandinski: it uses a backports kernel that is  end of life
[23:46] <Rexter> Cream222, what is leo.org?
[23:46] <Ben64> kandinski: LTS versions have hardware enablement, where it can get later kernels and stuff from releases in between LTS versions. the one you're currently using is from and EOL version and is not supported nor updated
[23:46] <brucelee> does -w require a reboot for changes to occur? also are they persistent? I'm guessing not because the man page doesnt say so, but i want to confirm. Also does this change the default settings once I reboot or what? does this change the settings in a particular file?
[23:46] <fttt5> pastebin.com/U3ZgktBJ
[23:47] <Cream222> == Rexter Sorry leo.org is to translate
[23:47] <kandinski> Ben64: thanks, great explanatioN!
[23:47] <fttt5> ?
[23:48] <k1l_> fttt5: this is a live system?
[23:48] <kandinski> Ben64, so, since we have certified our software for 12.04 userland, we should probably update to the Trusty kernel and graphics everywhere through installing the Trusty HWE?
[23:48] <fttt5> dunno
[23:48] <fttt5> how do i find out?
[23:48] <Rexter> Cream222, what's up with the RAID 5?
[23:48] <k1l_> fttt5: you said you use a dvd?
[23:48] <fttt5> yea
[23:48] <Ben64> kandinski: yeah, that should work
[23:49] <fttt5> i just boot it
[23:49] <fttt5> to try
[23:49] <kandinski> thanks, Ben64
[23:49] <fttt5> never had any problems with anything else ive used it for
[23:49] <Cream222> I need some help with a RAID 5 from my QNAP i have to restor the data from this RAID maybe somebody can help me becuse i new in ubuntu
[23:49] <k1l_> fttt5: ok, then use a 14.04 dvd since the 13.10 is already outdated.
[23:49] <kandinski> Ben64 << 1
[23:49] <fttt5> no dvds till morning
[23:50] <Rexter> Cream222, did the RAID 5 fail?
[23:51] <Bashing-om> kandinski: More specific: -> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty linux-image-generic-lts-trusty < -.
[23:51] <Cream222> now but i have to restore the Firmware how was an a SSD drive. and the Firmware now see not the RAID anymore.
[23:52] <linux> ubuntu will no longer lode on my chromebook i need help i typed the cmd cgpt add -i 6 -P 0 -T 1 -S 0 /dev/sda
[23:52] <Cream222> And now i have the the RAID 5 on Ubuntu and looks like this http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/420588/
[23:52] <kandinski> Bashing-om: thanks as well
[23:53] <linux> and it turned off and chrome os booted up and thts what im stuck with no more ubuntu for me it wont install
[23:53] <bubbasaures> linux, Whay did you do that?
[23:54] <bubbasaures> Why*
[23:54] <linux> i did it by accadent how do i get it back
[23:54] <linux> it wont install anymore and im pissed
[23:54] <HelenaKitty> Hello
[23:55] <fttt5> i would boot ubuntu off a sd card but i dont think my bios supports it
[23:55] <Rexter> linux, that's a hell of a command to type be accident.
[23:55] <bubbasaures> linux, sda is the mbr...er HD is it showing from a live, you would need to boot to one to fix if fixable.
[23:55] <HelenaKitty> I currently have my system doing automatic backups per night. It backs up the entire home dir. I wanted to know that when Unity 8 comes out will the backups break the system or will the configuration files within the backups for Unity 7 be compatible with Unity 8?
[23:55] <albert> anyone played spores on zorin?
[23:55] <Rexter> Cream222, this may be above my pay-grade, but can you give me some history?
[23:56] <bubbasaures> linux, If it is wiped make a new partition table.
[23:56] <linux> need help
[23:56] <linux> how
[23:56] <fttt5> can i boot ubunto off an sd card with a lenovo g575?
[23:56] <fttt5> ubuntu
[23:56] <HelenaKitty> fttt5, Read the fuckin manual
[23:56] <fttt5> it never came with a manual fuck face
[23:56] <Ben64> HelenaKitty: not helpful, and watch the language, you too fttt5
[23:57] <bubbasaures> linux, We just need more info to really help, what is there, and what you want, you being on a live boiot would help.
[23:57] <bubbasaures> boot*
[23:57] <albert> anyone know how to get my wireless internet adapter working?
[23:57] <Cream222> Rexrer the thing is i only whant to backup or recover the Fail from may RAID but i don't now how... :(
[23:58] <bubbasaures> albert, If this is a usb find it in the terminal by running lsusb and include that info
[23:59] <albert> bubbasaures, it is a pci card
[23:59] <bubbasaures> albert, Ah, I assume it has a hardware identity, that is the key.
[23:59] <ronsor> LOL
[23:59] <ronsor> Helenakitty told me what happened hehe