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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:14 |
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| soee | good morning | 07:17 |
| lordievader | Hey soee, how are you? | 07:19 |
| soee | lordievader: sick :( | 07:20 |
| lordievader | Hmm, that ain't good :( | 07:22 |
| apachelogger | Your membership in motu is about to expire | 07:36 |
| apachelogger | noooooooooooo | 07:36 |
| Quintasan | Yer no longer a master. | 07:40 |
| valorie | you will miss raising your sword to the sky and crying "I HAVE THE POWER!" | 07:42 |
| apachelogger | nono, expiration averted. I shall remain master of the universe forevermore | 07:46 |
| valorie | excellent | 07:50 |
| Riddell | hola | 08:32 |
| alket | hi | 08:39 |
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| Sick_Rimmit | Good morning lovely Kubuntu folks | 09:27 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: what's the deal with 14.12 beta 2? i only got the kolf package updated :D | 10:33 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: also the new Plasma 5 doesn't get a "logo" if i'm using lightdm (the unity frontend) | 10:34 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: I've only done that 1 package, I really wanted to see the new features in kolf | 10:34 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: or more truthfully that was a simple example so I can confirm with Debian and everyone that it's done the right way | 10:35 |
| tsdgeos | i hope the new translations of the desktop files please you :) | 10:35 |
| Riddell | is something different there? | 10:35 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: bug 1393370 reported | 10:36 |
| ubottu | bug 1393370 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "no logo for plasma 5 in lightdm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1393370 | 10:36 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 10:37 |
| _Groo_ | is https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-daily working? the last "daily" build was 3 days ago | 10:37 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: I think there's been some build failures so they haven't gone into that archive | 10:39 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: ah ok then :) | 10:39 |
| Riddell | jmux: I'm giving a wee talk about Kubuntu, can you tell me if the updated version is rolled out in Munich? | 10:48 |
| jmux | Riddell: I don't understand your question?! We'll rollout 12.04 with KDE 4.12.x - that's still in test until end of month. I have no idea about the productive rollout - not my department. | 10:54 |
| Riddell | jmux: thanks that's what I wanted to know | 10:56 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: where the crash showing website? | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | Riddell errors.ubuntu | 12:16 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: Looking at the LivdFS build failure logs, it looks like ktorrent is going to have to go unless someone produces a Plasma 5 port. | 13:20 |
| ScottK | There's also an oddity with kactivities I didn't figure out yet. | 13:20 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 13:21 |
| Riddell | ScottK: mm depends on libkworkspace4abi2 | 13:40 |
| Riddell | I'll see if it can built without it | 13:40 |
| ScottK | OK. But consider once you've done that if we'd be better of just using qbittorrent for now. | 13:41 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I've not tried it, what's it like? | 13:41 |
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| ScottK | I haven't either, but it seems well maintained in Debian and upstream is active, so it's promising. | 13:41 |
| ScottK | (I can't remember the last time I did any kind of torrent, so I'm not the right guy to check) | 13:42 |
| Riddell | ktorrent is pretty good and featureful but it does suffer from the kde stereotype of filling the ui with everything you might ever consider wanting | 13:42 |
| Riddell | but how do you watch the new series of Dr Who? | 13:42 |
| ScottK | Don't. I chose to have children instead of watching TV. | 13:43 |
| Riddell | I'd have thought one of the advantages of having children is to have an excuse to watch dr who :) | 13:50 |
| ScottK | Once she's a little older. | 13:51 |
| sgclark | morning | 14:20 |
| soee | hi sgclark | 14:21 |
| Riddell | hola sgclark | 14:29 |
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| Riddell | removing homerun from the archive, it needs plasma 4 | 15:44 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks for fixing ktorrent. | 15:45 |
| ScottK | That just leaves kactivities to sort out. | 15:45 |
| Riddell | ScottK: what needs sorted with kactivities? | 15:46 |
| ScottK | Riddell: kactivities : Conflicts: libkactivities-bin but 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu2 is to be installed | 15:46 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: removing plasma-widget-fastuserswitch from the archive, it needs plasma 4 (you packaged it says changelog) | 15:46 |
| ScottK | Not sure what's pulling libkactivities-bin in. | 15:46 |
| Riddell | kactivities is kf5 and libkactivities-bin is kde4, they will conflict, upstream insisted on it for some reason but anything that works with old stuff should work with new stuff | 15:48 |
| Riddell | ScottK: where are you seeing this? | 15:48 |
| ScottK | Riddell: In the LiveFS build failure log from last nigh. | 15:48 |
| ScottK | night | 15:48 |
| ScottK | Ah. Looks like you don't get them. | 15:48 |
| ScottK | Just forwarded it to you. | 15:49 |
| ScottK | You might want to get yourself on distro for those. | 15:49 |
| Riddell | I think I get enough e-mail as it is! | 15:49 |
| ScottK | It only mails when it fails. | 15:50 |
| Riddell | they might be the same problem of course, ktorrent might want to bring in libkdeworkspace which wants kactivities-bin | 15:50 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: fine by me | 15:51 |
| Riddell | hmm, maybe it's libkactivities6 which recommends kactivities-bin and is used by dolphin and several other important bits | 15:53 |
| ScottK | That seems more likely. | 15:53 |
| tsdgeos | qt slipping alrady :/ | 15:53 |
| ScottK | I think the KDE4 stuff has to stop using kactivities-bin | 15:54 |
| Riddell | three cheers for mitya57 who just got into core-dev! | 15:55 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: pardon? | 15:55 |
| tsdgeos | "* Unfortunately we don't have rc packages available at the moment --> Cannot release rc Tue 18th Nov as planned" | 15:55 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: ah, upstream are slipping their schedule? | 15:56 |
| tsdgeos | yep | 15:56 |
| Riddell | I guess plasma 5.2 will want qt 5.3 then, the question is what's best for kubuntu shipping in april | 15:58 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I'm pretty sure we want to ship the Qt5 that KDE is willing to support Plasma/KF5 on. | 15:59 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I'll make libkactivities6 (kde4 lib) recommend kactivities (plasma5 binaries) instead of kactivites-bin (kde4 binaries) | 16:00 |
| ScottK | Will that actually work correctly? | 16:00 |
| Riddell | ScottK: and as upstream plasma release dude I also have to work out what Qt version Plasma wants | 16:00 |
| Riddell | ScottK: yes it should be fine, it's all backwards compatible promises the upstream maintainer | 16:01 |
| ScottK | Right. So figure that out and you'll know the Kubuntu answer. | 16:01 |
| ScottK | Cool. Sounds like the right fix then. | 16:01 |
| ScottK | Then the KDE4 package can be removed too, right? | 16:01 |
| Riddell | ScottK: the source package can't be removed, it still needs to build libkactivities6 (kde4 lib) | 16:02 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I guess we could update it to not build kactivites-bin (kde4 binaries) | 16:03 |
| ScottK | I think that'd be good. Harder to have something accidentally use it in the future that way. | 16:03 |
| Riddell | what a lot of faff just to support Sick_Rimmit and his love of activities :) | 16:03 |
| ScottK | I still haven't figured out how they work or what they are good for. | 16:04 |
| Riddell | you should watch Sick_Rimmit's presentation from friday | 16:05 |
| Riddell | although it didn't manage to convince me either | 16:05 |
| Riddell | but I guess if you like to separate your life into home/work/setup for children/setup to watch dr who then it would be handy | 16:06 |
| ScottK | I guess. | 16:06 |
| ScottK | I have different computers/user accounts mostly for stuff like that. | 16:07 |
| Riddell | ok uploaded | 16:09 |
| Riddell | now if only a friendly archive admin would review sddm we might get working images tomorrow | 16:09 |
| mitya57 | Thanks Riddell! | 16:11 |
| Riddell | oh we also need a friendly archive admin to approve the owncloud update https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= bug 1384355 | 16:12 |
| ubottu | bug 1384355 in owncloud (Ubuntu) "ownCloud should be removed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1384355 | 16:12 |
| Riddell | well ~ubuntu-sru person | 16:12 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: I'm a bit confused by kwebkitpart in https://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20141113-1.txt, am I right in thinking that isn't used any more? | 16:22 |
| tsdgeos | define "anymore" | 16:23 |
| tsdgeos | ii kpart-webkit 1.3.4-1 amd64 WebKit KPart | 16:23 |
| Riddell | ah, a kpart used by konqueror | 16:26 |
| Riddell | thanks | 16:26 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Someone gets to try again on sddm. | 16:44 |
| ScottK | Full license text for CC BY 3.0 and COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS missing. | 16:45 |
| Riddell | fun fun, thanks | 16:48 |
| Riddell | I wonder why cc-sa-by isn't in common-licences by now | 16:49 |
| ScottK | Even if it was, you still need a copy in the tarball. That just makes debian/copyright shorter. | 16:54 |
| Riddell | no you don't, colin's been pretty clear upstream doesn't have to ship the full licence if they don't want to as long as it's clear what it refers to | 16:55 |
| Riddell | but definately worth doing | 16:56 |
| * Sick_Rimmit spots discussion about KDE Activities... He LOVES EM | 16:57 | |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: but are they better than virtual desktops? | 16:59 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Yes, and the reason for this is they give you a completely independent workspace, and can be configured to be up and running with a default application set if you so wish | 17:00 |
| Sick_Rimmit | You can wake them up and put them to sleep as and when you need them. | 17:00 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: but are they better than different system users? | 17:03 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Well the context is dramatically different there. | 17:04 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Different system users create data isolation | 17:04 |
| _Groo_ | could anyone point me to a good howto on how to make recipes for launchpad? | 17:04 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Activities represent the different contexts of your daily workflow, rather then complete separation | 17:04 |
| Riddell | ah so maybe that is a better solution to watching dr who without your children knowing | 17:05 |
| Sick_Rimmit | They're very good for chatting on IRC at work, whilst looking like you coding on the internal database :-) | 17:06 |
| Riddell | :) | 17:06 |
| Riddell | d__ed: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/sddm.diff | 17:11 |
| Riddell | ScottK: upstream sddm d__ed says he'll merge that patch to fix the licencing can I upload it again adding CC into debian/copyright? I don't think there's any need for a new upstream tar | 17:15 |
| ScottK | Can you just do a quick repack to add the licenses? | 17:15 |
| ScottK | The tarball by itself is supposed to be distributable. | 17:15 |
| Riddell | oh I see a further problem, CC-BY confused with CC-BY-SA | 17:22 |
| Riddell | and as a side note I see there's CC 4.0 now, guess I should do some reading | 17:23 |
| Linnak | Hi, Is it a config file where I can reduce tha application launcher menu's delay? | 17:43 |
| Riddell | ScottK: sddm uploaded with repacked tar with licence fixese | 17:44 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 17:44 |
| Riddell | Linnak: user support in #kubuntu thanks | 17:44 |
| Linnak | I've asked for a couple of days. They have no idea about that | 17:45 |
| Linnak | I thought here are the people who have the knowledge | 17:46 |
| ScottK | Don't see it yet. | 17:46 |
| ScottK | You might also ask on #kde. There's nothing Kubuntu specific about that. | 17:46 |
| Linnak | ok | 17:47 |
| Riddell | upstream bug for sddm licences https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/318 | 17:50 |
| Riddell | ScottK: if you're in a helpful mood today remember the owncloud SRU update, it's pretty easy to review just fixes an issue with the previous SRU that's in -proposed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= | 17:51 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I don't see the licenses in the tarball. | 17:51 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Running short on time. Focusing on sddm. | 17:51 |
| Riddell | -rw-rw-r-- jr/a 19400 2014-11-17 18:35 sddm-0.10.0+dfsg1/COPYING-CC-BY-3.0 | 17:52 |
| Riddell | -rw-rw-r-- jr/a 22164 2014-11-17 18:35 sddm-0.10.0+dfsg1/COPYING-CC-BY-SA-3.0 | 17:52 |
| Riddell | ScottK: you see those? ↑ | 17:52 |
| ScottK | No. | 17:52 |
| ScottK | Just the plain COPYING | 17:53 |
| ScottK | Look at it here in ark http://launchpadlibrarian.net/190285031/sddm_0.10.0%2Bdfsg1.orig.tar.gz | 17:53 |
| Riddell | ScottK: hmm not yet in queue https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+queue | 17:53 |
| Riddell | maybe launchpad is still processing it | 17:54 |
| ScottK | Maybe I got a cached copy of the old one. | 17:54 |
| Riddell | ScottK: hmm dunno, maybe launchpad is just being slow cos I definately uploaded it to vivid | 17:59 |
| Riddell | I'm also out of time, got to go | 17:59 |
| Riddell | dget http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/sddm_0.10.0+dfsg1-0ubuntu1.dsc should you fancy a preview | 17:59 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. Checking with our ace new LP developer cjwatson on #launchpad. | 18:00 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It was usigned. | 18:00 |
| ScottK | Please uplaod again | 18:01 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer, apachelogger, some other MOTU/core-dev: Would you please grab Riddell's sddm update above and upload it. | 18:04 |
| ScottK | Meh. Nevermind. | 18:05 |
| ScottK | Riddell: still missing COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS | 18:05 |
| ScottK | Someone with some time might want to merge kdepimlibs and kdepim-runtime from Debian (or at least grab the patches I just added) as there's a fix there we want. | 18:28 |
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| debfx | has anyone looked into bug #1363703 / bug #1389320? | 21:54 |
| ubottu | bug 1363703 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "package sysv-rc 2.88dsf-41ubuntu18 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1363703 | 21:54 |
| ubottu | bug 1389320 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade fails - missing LSB comment in virtuoso-nepomuk" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1389320 | 21:54 |
| debfx | looks like the init script from the virtuoso-nepomuk package (precise) causes problems | 21:56 |
| debfx | not sure what's the right place to fix this | 21:57 |
| ScottK | debfx: Isn't it supposed to run the new on if the old on fails or is that just prerm and preinst? | 21:59 |
| debfx | the upgrade seems to fail in sysv-rc. it probably tries to parse all init script (since the dependency boot stuff has been merged to ubunt) and chokes on this particular one. | 22:00 |
| ScottK | Then I guess SRU in 12.04. | 22:04 |
| debfx | that doesn't help for systems that have already been upgraded to trusty | 22:05 |
| ScottK | Then both? | 22:06 |
| ScottK | Is what's in 14.04 still problematic? | 22:06 |
| debfx | doesn't exist anymore in trusty | 22:06 |
| debfx | so in one particular case virtuoso-nepomuk was in rc state | 22:07 |
| ScottK | I see. | 22:07 |
| debfx | adding a quirk to the upgraded to remove the init script maybe? | 22:08 |
| ScottK | That or presuming virtuoso-nepomuk is still marked installed, one might add a dummy package that removes the script. | 22:09 |
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