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| Laibsch | cjwatson, xnox: I guess you've seen my application for PPU? I haven't heard a thing about it since. Is everything on track? | 06:25 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:06 |
| pitti | jodh: FYI, I add some bugs to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1411-systemd-migration which correspond to some of the WIs, so we don't need to duplicate all of those as textual WIs | 08:10 |
| * didrocks is listening to the session | 08:10 | |
| jodh | pitti: thanks! | 08:13 |
| pitti | jodh: so everything in "Blockers for switching the default in vivid" is now covered by linked bugs, your automatic list, and one remaining WI which I just added | 08:25 |
| pitti | jodh: I also added two "nice to have" WIs for me, but the WI list is of course not complete yet | 08:26 |
| pitti | jodh: I don't want to meddle too much with your BP (you are the drafter, after all), so feel free to move around the milestones etc. | 08:26 |
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| LocutusOfBorg1 | wow I triggered a bug in launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hedgewars/+bug/1393202 | 08:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1393202 in hedgewars (Ubuntu) "in rope training game the target don't disappear when one kicks them" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 08:44 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | I can't change the status | 08:44 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | lol | 08:44 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg1: try the expander on the left and then change the status with the combobox | 08:51 |
| pitti | (I don't see the AJAXy change status either) | 08:52 |
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| LocutusOfBorg1 | pitti, yes, I already did the workaround, I was just reporting a bug :) | 08:57 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | thanks | 08:57 |
| didrocks | pitti: 2 things while I'm thinking about them: during the systemd session, you are talking about session not properly shutting down, this is I guess the timeout I'm seeing (like 30s with no screen refresh) before having the system brutally stopping? | 09:07 |
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| pitti | didrocks: I sometimes get the 90 s timeout on user@1000.service shutdown (something is hanging there); but there's nothing about "brutally" stopping, it's just killing that user@1000.service | 09:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: I get it at each shutdown it seems, didn't find a bug about it though? | 09:09 |
| pitti | didrocks: oh? I don't get this | 09:09 |
| pitti | didrocks: I sometimes see it in an nspawn'ed vivid instance | 09:09 |
| didrocks | ok, will be a nice next-step exercise for debugging it seems | 09:09 |
| didrocks | ah, if I can reproduce it here, would be easier to debug | 09:10 |
| pitti | didrocks: right; enabling the debug shell, and while it's hanging check systemctl about what it's hanging on? | 09:10 |
| didrocks | pitti: will do (opening http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/ for enabling the debug shell) | 09:10 |
| didrocks | pitti: second thing is that we don't enable journald persistency across reboots (there isn't the /var/log/journald IIRC directory created) | 09:11 |
| didrocks | is that on purpose? | 09:11 |
| pitti | didrocks: I haven't thought about this yet TBH; I guess we shoudl only have that *or* rsyslog by default, otherwise we waste twice the amount of log file space? | 09:12 |
| didrocks | exactly | 09:12 |
| didrocks | so, something to discuss, I find it weird for users that they can see only current journald boot, and have to go to rsyslog for older entries (and less info) | 09:13 |
| didrocks | but the opposite is true as well anyway :) | 09:13 |
| pitti | yeah; but I think I'd rather have it this way around, and then decide at some point to drop rsyslog by default and switch on persistant journal | 09:14 |
| pitti | didrocks: even more clever would be to auto-enable persistant journal dependeing on whether rsylog is enabled :) | 09:14 |
| didrocks | good idea! | 09:14 |
| * didrocks notes down as an easy one | 09:14 | |
| jodh | pitti: I don't mind - feel free - it's going to have to be a team effort after all :) | 09:17 |
| pitti | hm, I was about to test LVM+encrypted, but this seems broken in vivid :( (bug 1393341) | 09:24 |
| ubottu | bug 1393341 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "automatic LVM+encrypted partitioning fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1393341 | 09:24 |
| * pitti downloads an utopic ISO and tries with that | 09:25 | |
| pitti | slangasek, jodh: yay, cryptsetup+systemd works fine; both the full LVM with root (thus asking in initramfs), and only /home on LUKS (thus asking in the real system) | 10:31 |
| caribou | Laney: I just created a backport bug for tcpdump; should I assign it to myself while I complete some of the testing ? | 10:46 |
| Laney | caribou: sounds reasonable | 10:46 |
| caribou | Laney: k, will do | 10:46 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | seb128, sorry for the typo on bug 1367260 | 11:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1367260 in tcpdump (Ubuntu) "tcpdump needs merge from debian" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1367260 | 11:13 |
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| seb128 | LocutusOfBorg1, no worry | 12:49 |
| cjwatson | pitti: question for you in bug 1393341, since you're unfortunate enough to have touched lvm2 last :-) | 13:00 |
| ubottu | bug 1393341 in partman-lvm (Ubuntu) "[vivid regression] automatic LVM+encrypted partitioning fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1393341 | 13:00 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ah yeah, thanks; yeah, I fixed the init.d script once and it seems now I need to maintain it forever without understandin a thing about our delta :/ | 13:02 |
| caribou | Laney: I tested everything required for the tcpdump backport & everything is ok. So I'm leaving the bug unassigned | 13:03 |
| cjwatson | heh, well, it was a question more than a request :) | 13:03 |
| cjwatson | I don't claim to understand our delta either | 13:03 |
| pitti | but yes, "we should merge LVM2" indeed | 13:03 |
| pitti | cjwatson: everyone who did (kees, xnox) left, so I guess we'll have to make-do; I'll try to have a look at it soon, but I can only test it in a rather limited fashion | 13:08 |
| cjwatson | pitti: if it can't be done in some reasonably short period (by which I don't mean to rush you), then I guess the alternatives are to cherry-pick that option into lvcreate, to patch it out of partman-lvm (but then we risk forgetting about it and it'll likely break again later), or to figure out if partman-lvm can be made to work with both old and new lvm2 | 13:14 |
| cjwatson | the problem was IIRC that new lvm2 broke partman-lvm differently without that option | 13:14 |
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| xnox | cjwatson: pitti: partman-lvm & lvm2 need merging? | 13:32 |
| * xnox can look at that in the evening. | 13:32 | |
| cjwatson | partman-lvm is in sync. lvm2 needs merging. | 13:34 |
| xnox | ack. | 13:34 |
| xnox | slangasek: you should pinch hallyn into foundations team ;-) | 13:34 |
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| pitti | zul: hah! got it | 15:23 |
| pitti | zul: adt-run --apt-pocket=proposed -U keystone --- qemu /srv/vm/adt-vivid-amd64-cloud.img --cpus 2 | 15:23 |
| pitti | zul: that's the bit that the wiki page is missing; we run with 2 virtual CPUs by default, thus SMP | 15:23 |
| pitti | zul: with that I can reproduce the segfault fairly reliably (4 out of 5 runs) | 15:24 |
| pitti | zul: sorry, not segfault, it's a SIGKILL | 15:24 |
| zul | ah ok :) | 15:24 |
| pitti | zul: it also happens in vivid-release (adt-run keystone --- qemu /srv/vm/adt-vivid-amd64-cloud.img --cpus 2), so not a regression | 15:25 |
| pitti | zul: but "fails on machines with more CPU" still sounds rather serious? | 15:25 |
| zul | pitti: so is there something i can do | 15:25 |
| pitti | zul: I'm ok with letting python-babel and python-keystoneclient in, as this isn't a regression from those two; but this will still hit the next time, of course | 15:27 |
| zul | pitti: eventlet as well? | 15:28 |
| pitti | zul: yes | 15:29 |
| zul | pitti: ok thanks | 15:30 |
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| pitti | zul: FYI, keeping track/notes in bug during autopkgtest | 16:35 |
| pitti | bah, weechat | 16:35 |
| pitti | or, rather, bah firefox | 16:35 |
| pitti | zul: bug 1393474 | 16:35 |
| ubottu | bug 1393474 in keystone (Ubuntu) "su call in postinst fails with "Killed" when not running from a logind shell" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1393474 | 16:35 |
| zul | pitti: ack | 16:37 |
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| chiluk | hey infinity I know you are sprinting and stuff but can I get some upload love on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/1391662 | 16:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1391662 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "mount.nfs does not downgrade NFS version when connecting to dual-stack NFS server" [Medium,In progress] | 16:56 |
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| tkamppeter | Does someone know about the Python3 support of pyqt4? There is a python-qt4-dbus but no python3-qt4-dbus for example. | 18:00 |
| cjwatson | tkamppeter: I think you want python3-pyqt4. | 18:01 |
| cjwatson | IIRC they took the opportunity of adding python3-* to fix some naming mistakes. | 18:02 |
| tkamppeter | cjwatson, and pyqt4-dev-tools? | 18:03 |
| jtaylor | those are binaries and don't need modules | 18:04 |
| jtaylor | *provide | 18:04 |
| tkamppeter | What replaces python-imagin in Python3 | 18:05 |
| jtaylor | python3-pil | 18:05 |
| tkamppeter | jtaylor, if hplip build-depends on pyqt4-dev-tools, what does it need when ported to Python3? | 18:07 |
| jtaylor | the same package | 18:07 |
| tkamppeter | python3-gobject-2? | 18:08 |
| jtaylor | you shouldn't need to care if binaries need python2 or 3 | 18:08 |
| jtaylor | unless there is a packaging mistake of course | 18:08 |
| panbalag | Looking for any developer who has updated the fields "when, Confirmed, Assigned, Started work, Completed" in launchpad while working on a bug... Please reply back if you have updated any of these fields. I would like to clarify the definition for these fields. | 18:08 |
| cjwatson | python3-gi would be more usual for gobject-related stuff | 18:09 |
| cjwatson | python-gobject-2 is the deprecated old-style bindings that AFAIK weren't updated to Python 3 (see python-gi for the new-style ones in Python 2) | 18:09 |
| tkamppeter | python3-notify? | 18:10 |
| tkamppeter | python-notify | 18:10 |
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| tkamppeter | What replaces python-notify in Python3? | 18:12 |
| ScottK | mitya57: Why did we not make a python3-pyqt4-dev for the sip files? Did we conclude they were the same for python/python3? | 18:14 |
| cjwatson | It looks as though python-notify has never been ported to Python 3, but there's a separate python-notify2 package (slightly different API, apparently) that has been, as python3-notify2. | 18:15 |
| dobey | panbalag: those sound like blueprint fields, not bug fields | 18:21 |
| tkamppeter | cjwatson, jtaylor, ScottK: Thank you very much. | 18:23 |
| mitya57 | ScottK: they are the same | 19:11 |
| mitya57 | http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/pipermail/pyqt/2014-August/034612.html | 19:11 |
| ScottK | mitya57: Thanks. | 19:11 |
| undRmindcntrlX2 | Does ubuntu error reporting send error data encrypted? | 19:33 |
| dobey | Unit193: it's uploaded over https, yes, if that's what you're asking | 20:01 |
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| dj | hello | 20:42 |
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| dj | i have a question to ask? | 20:43 |
| Noskcaj | !ask | dj | 20:43 |
| ubottu | dj: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 20:43 |
| dj | How the installation process goes on ubuntu? | 20:45 |
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| rbasak | arges: https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=56919#c6 is the deep dive / full description of the issue. | 21:33 |
| ubottu | issues.apache.org bug 56919 in mod_ssl "Creating a large number of SSL sites using DBDDriver pgsql causes a SIGSEGV / SIGILL on load" [Major,Resolved: duplicate] | 21:33 |
| arges | rbasak: cool reading through all that now | 21:33 |
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| Unit193 | dobey: I'm not the droid you're looking for. ;) | 21:52 |
| dobey | oh. bloody people asking questions and then quitting five minutes later | 21:54 |
| Unit193 | Yep. :/ | 21:56 |
| dobey | oh well | 21:56 |
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