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| * Laney arrives back just after time | 15:03 | |
| Laney | !dmb-ping | 15:03 |
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| ubottu | bdrung, ScottK, Laney, micahg, xnox, bdmurray, stgraber: DMB ping | 15:03 |
| bdrung_work | o/ | 15:03 |
| ScottK | \o | 15:03 |
| xnox | o/ | 15:04 |
| xnox | oh, i forget that UK is in-line with UTC this half of the year. | 15:04 |
| * xnox grabs coffee | 15:04 | |
| stgraber | at a sprint today so only kinda around, sorry | 15:04 |
| ScottK | Who's chairing? | 15:05 |
| Laney | bdmurray / xnox | 15:06 |
| xnox | Laney: why two chairs? =) or is bdmurray not around? | 15:07 |
| xnox | stgraber: is bdmurray sprinting with you? | 15:08 |
| stgraber | xnox: nope | 15:08 |
| Laney | I didn't see him say anything yet | 15:09 |
| xnox | #startmeeting Developer Membership Board Meeting 2014-11-17 | 15:10 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Nov 17 15:10:32 2014 UTC. The chair is xnox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:10 |
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| xnox | From roll call - Laney, bdrung_work, ScottK, stgraber and xnox are present. | 15:10 |
| xnox | absent bdmurray and micahg | 15:11 |
| * xnox action to send micahg reminder about meeting and whether he still plans to participate in them | 15:11 | |
| xnox | #action xnox to send micahg reminder about meeting and whether he still plans to participate in them | 15:11 |
| meetingology | ACTION: xnox to send micahg reminder about meeting and whether he still plans to participate in them | 15:11 |
| xnox | #topic Core Developer Application mitya57 | 15:11 |
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| mitya57 | o/ | 15:11 |
| xnox | mitya57: hello! How are you today? =) | 15:12 |
| mitya57 | Fine, thanks. Though I am on an unreliable wlan connection, so if I suddenly disappear, blame Moscow University wifi :) | 15:12 |
| xnox | mitya57: gotcha, will prepare the pitch forks | 15:13 |
| xnox | mitya57: could please introduce yourself and your application today briefly? =) | 15:13 |
| mitya57 | :) | 15:13 |
| mitya57 | Well, I am Dmitry Shachnev, 20 year old, math student, python/c++/js programmer, etc | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | Actually I have prepared something to paste | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | Things I will do: | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | - Maintaining "my" packages. Look at http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=mitya57 | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | for the incomplete list of them. | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | - Doing changes in other packages that "my" packages need (recent example: | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | new gnome-flashback release needed a patch dropped in gnome-menus). | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | - Doing some QA work (fixing FTBFS, autopkgtests failures, uninstallable packages, etc). | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | - Doing myself and sponsoring syncs, merges from Debian and bug fixes. | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | - Continuing my work in l10n and docs teams. | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | Things I won't do: | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | - Adding Ubuntu delta that is not a fix for important bug to packages | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | without existing delta. | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | - Include patches that haven't been forwarded, without a heavy reason. | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | Things I won't do: | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | - Adding Ubuntu delta that is not a fix for important bug to packages | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | without existing delta. | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | - Include patches that haven't been forwarded, without a heavy reason. | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | err | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | Things I won't do despite being Qt (co)maintainer: | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | - Touch Ubuntu Touch stuff (for now) :) | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | - Touch KDE stuff (unless I start using it myself). | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | (unless I am asked to do that, once Kubuntu guys asked me to sponsor | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | a few uploads for them). | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | ✈ EOF | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | ^ that needs | uniq | 15:16 |
| Laney | Actually touch people are a bit better about people uploading that stuff now | 15:17 |
| Laney | If you see something which FTBFS, then fix/(MP and upload) is valid and I don't think you should be afraid of doing that | 15:17 |
| mitya57 | I think if I ever want to contribute to something touch-related, I will go the MP/autoland way instead. | 15:18 |
| Laney | That's best if you can wait | 15:19 |
| Laney | s/autoland/CI train/ these days, but core-devs have power to use that anyway | 15:19 |
| mitya57 | CI train is what I meant. And MPs usually need to be approved by someone else. | 15:20 |
| Laney | nod | 15:20 |
| ScottK | FWIW, I've seen enough of mitya57's work that I don't need to ask any questions. | 15:20 |
| ScottK | JFTR, you should also feel completely free to ignore CI train and just upload stuff. | 15:21 |
| Laney | I'm good now | 15:24 |
| xnox | mitya57: what's your favourite parts of C++ and JS? least? | 15:24 |
| Riddell | I also am all for mitya57's application, he's doing good stuff in Qt maintainance and working nicely with Debian Qt KDE team too | 15:24 |
| mitya57 | xnox: C++. I don't much like programming anything that runs in a browser. | 15:26 |
| mitya57 | (though I have to do that many times) | 15:26 |
| xnox | mitya57: ok. | 15:26 |
| xnox | #vote should mitya57 be granted core developer status in Ubuntu? | 15:27 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: should mitya57 be granted core developer status in Ubuntu? | 15:27 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 15:27 |
| Laney | +1 | 15:27 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Laney | 15:27 |
| ScottK | +1 | 15:27 |
| meetingology | +1 received from ScottK | 15:27 |
| bdrung_work | +1 | 15:27 |
| meetingology | +1 received from bdrung_work | 15:27 |
| xnox | +1 | 15:27 |
| meetingology | +1 received from xnox | 15:27 |
| bdrung_work | mitya57, interesting to see Qt and GNOME flashback in the list of packages. | 15:28 |
| mitya57 | Qt is something I like a lot (actually I've even contributed ~20 patches upstream), and GNOME Flashback is a thing I was asked to take over by someone else. | 15:29 |
| stgraber | +1 | 15:29 |
| meetingology | +1 received from stgraber | 15:29 |
| bdrung_work | mitya57, what do you run on your desktop? | 15:29 |
| mitya57 | GNOME Shell | 15:29 |
| xnox | #endvote | 15:29 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: should mitya57 be granted core developer status in Ubuntu? | 15:29 |
| meetingology | Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 15:29 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 15:29 |
| xnox | mitya57: congrats, you are a core dev now =) | 15:30 |
| mitya57 | Thanks to you all! | 15:30 |
| ScottK | mitya57: Yes, congratulations. It's about time. | 15:30 |
| Laney | Good stuff | 15:30 |
| xnox | I've added you to the team, now. And will deal with other post-meeting things later. | 15:31 |
| mitya57 | The first thing I'll do is sponsor my own three items in the sponsorship queue :) | 15:31 |
| xnox | ;-) | 15:31 |
| xnox | #topic Any other business | 15:31 |
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| Laney | I put an item on the agenda | 15:31 |
| mitya57 | Thanks to xnox for being so fast | 15:31 |
| xnox | Laney: which is...? "Extend DD PPU to cover DM too (Laney)" not sure what that means? | 15:32 |
| ScottK | Makes sense to me. | 15:32 |
| * ScottK says yes. | 15:32 | |
| * xnox requests verbosity++ | 15:33 | |
| Laney | #topic it and then I'll say | 15:33 |
| xnox | #topic Extend DD PPU to cover DM too (Laney) | 15:33 |
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| xnox | Laney: floor is yours | 15:33 |
| Laney | I don't know how to link to the heading but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess has a section for DDs who want to apply for upload rights to their packages | 15:33 |
| Laney | Currently you have to be an actual full fat DD | 15:34 |
| Laney | I was reminded by Laibsch's thread on devel-permissions, as he is a DM, that I wanted to see if we could make this be DM or DD. | 15:34 |
| Laney | then we could s/Developer/Uploader/ or something | 15:35 |
| ScottK | You can be a skinny DD as well. Beard is not required either. | 15:35 |
| xnox | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess | 15:35 |
| xnox | #url https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess | 15:35 |
| xnox | #help | 15:35 |
| * xnox gives up | 15:35 | |
| bdrung_work | ScottK, you should have told me before growing a beard and eating many sweets. ;) | 15:36 |
| Laney | I cannot imagine bdrung_work with a beard | 15:36 |
| Laney | Anyway | 15:36 |
| Laney | Questions? | 15:36 |
| ScottK | Seems reasonable to me. | 15:36 |
| xnox | Laney: so looking at current uploading DMs in https://ftp-master.debian.org/dm.txt the list is not that large | 15:37 |
| * bdrung_work is fine with expanding the DD PPU to DM | 15:37 | |
| * ScottK suggests a vote. | 15:38 | |
| Laney | You'll still have to be approved normally one time | 15:38 |
| Laney | But then can extend it by mail later on | 15:38 |
| Laney | Yeah | 15:38 |
| bdrung_work | xnox, this file has 165 persons listed | 15:38 |
| ScottK | Compared to 1,000 DDs, it's not so many. | 15:38 |
| xnox | bdrung_work: some of them already have PPU rights in Ubuntu or will not want to seek them. | 15:39 |
| xnox | ScottK: well ~500 or so active. | 15:39 |
| ScottK | True. | 15:39 |
| xnox | whithin past year. | 15:39 |
| Laney | what's the concern? | 15:39 |
| xnox | So, imho any Debian Developer is an Ubuntu Developer. | 15:40 |
| xnox | however DMs are inherently less trusted within Debian itself. | 15:40 |
| ScottK | They are approximately equally trusted for specific packages however. | 15:41 |
| xnox | I do not feel that extending DMs to be PPUs is justified as is. There are no gurantees said people pass/know debian policies & procedures (both legal/dfsg and technical) | 15:41 |
| ScottK | The approximation being they can't upload through New. | 15:41 |
| xnox | how can one assert it would be easy enough for them to pick up Ubuntu quarks? | 15:41 |
| xnox | from the DMs that I have sponsored, I've been monitoring and spotting clearly broken uploads into Debian. =( | 15:42 |
| ScottK | xnox: If you'd seen some of the "not very good" stuff I see uploaded in Debian as a member of the FTP Team, you'd be much less sanguine about what DDs know. | 15:42 |
| xnox | (sponsored - that is granted DM rights) | 15:42 |
| xnox | ScottK: rolf =) | 15:42 |
| ScottK | It's true. | 15:42 |
| Laney | These people have to go through one round with the DMB | 15:42 |
| xnox | Laney: yeah, | 15:42 |
| Laney | at which we will check their understanding of Ubuntu things | 15:42 |
| xnox | ok. | 15:42 |
| xnox | I don't have any other questions, is everyone ready to vote on this? | 15:42 |
| ScottK | \o | 15:43 |
| Laney | I can only think of pocock and now Laibsch who actually take advantage of it atm | 15:43 |
| Laney | Let's go | 15:43 |
| * bdrung_work is ready. | 15:43 | |
| xnox | #vote Extend DD PPU requirement to cover DMs too | 15:44 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: Extend DD PPU requirement to cover DMs too | 15:44 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 15:44 |
| ScottK | +1 | 15:44 |
| meetingology | +1 received from ScottK | 15:44 |
| xnox | -1 | 15:44 |
| meetingology | -1 received from xnox | 15:44 |
| bdrung_work | +1 | 15:44 |
| meetingology | +1 received from bdrung_work | 15:44 |
| Laney | +1 | 15:44 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Laney | 15:44 |
| xnox | stgraber: ? | 15:45 |
| stgraber | +1 | 15:47 |
| meetingology | +1 received from stgraber | 15:47 |
| xnox | #endvote | 15:48 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: Extend DD PPU requirement to cover DMs too | 15:48 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:1 Abstentions:0 | 15:48 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 15:48 |
| * xnox is not sure if this motion is actually carried or not, and whether we need bdmurray and/or micah's vote here | 15:48 | |
| xnox | Laney: ? ^ | 15:48 |
| Laney | 4x+1 = carried | 15:48 |
| xnox | yeah | 15:48 |
| xnox | cool | 15:48 |
| xnox | thought about it after typing - the outcome is without a daubt. | 15:49 |
| Laney | My phone just alarmed to remind me about DMB | 15:49 |
| xnox | so | 15:49 |
| bdrung_work | Laney, no, +4 in sum is needed | 15:49 |
| Laney | No | 15:49 |
| Laney | It's why we can vote on applicants without everyone present | 15:49 |
| Laney | If something gets to +4 then -3 still leaves you with +1 | 15:50 |
| bdrung_work | yes | 15:50 |
| xnox | #topic Any Other Business take #2 | 15:51 |
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| xnox | ....unless we want to continue discussing politics and voting systems | 15:51 |
| ScottK | So did we agree it passed? | 15:51 |
| Laney | There are 3 threads ongoing, please reply to them | 15:51 |
| bdrung_work | if someone from the absent members give a +1, it passes | 15:52 |
| xnox | ScottK: i believe it has passed, as the absolute majority is in favour. | 15:52 |
| xnox | ScottK: and there is no tie, even with extra votes from bdmurray & mica | 15:52 |
| ScottK | OK. | 15:53 |
| ScottK | I thought so too, but I wanted to make sure there's no confusion. | 15:53 |
| ScottK | bdrung_work seems to disagree. | 15:53 |
| xnox | Laney: what threats? | 15:53 |
| bdrung_work | if we use the same voting mechanism that we use for applicant | 15:53 |
| xnox | bdrung_work: given that we operate on 50%+1 majority (aka 1:1 majority) the outcome is without a daubt, and we do not require an 2:1 majority for applicant voting. | 15:54 |
| Laney | 1) Laibsch PPU 2) Noskcaj MOTU 3) input-methods packageset | 15:54 |
| * bdrung_work has to leave now. | 15:54 | |
| xnox | bdrung_work: however, I'd like to know bdmurray's opinion. | 15:55 |
| xnox | Laney: isn't 1 & 2 requested to be processed via email | 15:55 |
| Laney | yes | 15:55 |
| * xnox looks at the input-methods packageset | 15:55 | |
| Laney | that's why I said please reply to the threads :) | 15:55 |
| xnox | i have not actually followed that thread. | 15:55 |
| bdrung_work | xnox, the +4 requirement was to enable more fine grained declines (by voting +0 or -1) | 15:55 |
| xnox | Laney: i'll follow up on the email threats later over email. | 15:58 |
| Laney | ty | 15:58 |
| xnox | bdmurray: ditto needs follow up on the mailing list. | 15:58 |
| xnox | i guess that's it for today? | 15:58 |
| Laney | I think we had a similar conversation about voting systems a couple of years ago | 15:58 |
| Laney | maybe I remember the outcome wrong | 15:58 |
| Laney | would be helpful for bdrung to find the conclusion | 15:58 |
| Laney | (it went to the TB back then) | 15:59 |
| xnox | meh ok. | 16:01 |
| Laney | maybe #action him :) | 16:02 |
| xnox | #action cjwatson: as a returning officer: given 7 voters, and "Votes for:4 Votes against:1 Abstentions:0" collected to date, is the outcome without a doubt or do we need extra +1 votes? | 16:02 |
| meetingology | ACTION: cjwatson: as a returning officer: given 7 voters, and "Votes for:4 Votes against:1 Abstentions:0" collected to date, is the outcome without a doubt or do we need extra +1 votes? | 16:02 |
| Laney | *cough* or bdmurray could just vote | 16:02 |
| Laney | a "returning officer"? | 16:02 |
| xnox | Laney: yes, a standard practice in traditional british voting and polling mechanisms, where ex-members are invited to oversee the process as independent party ;-) | 16:03 |
| Laney | Haha. | 16:04 |
| * xnox thinks cjwatson would be an excellent returning officer given the history of the boards and committees he has been on (including the DMB) | 16:04 | |
| Laney | We could just dig up the old thread | 16:04 |
| xnox | anyway, we are past the hour, follow up on the irc | 16:04 |
| xnox | #endmeeting | 16:04 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Nov 17 16:05:01 2014 UTC. | 16:04 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-11-17-15.10.moin.txt | 16:04 |
| Laney | thanks for chairing | 16:05 |
| xnox | Laney: kein problemo, mon senor | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | xnox,Laney: no doubt you should dig up the old thread; I'm having trouble seeing how this isn't carried though, unless every motion effectively has some kind of supermajority requirement | 16:09 |
| Laney | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.technical-board/483 is certainly related | 16:11 |
| ScottK | That's the last message in the thread, so I think it's pretty clearly decided. | 16:16 |
| Laney | That's him sending it to the CC I think | 16:17 |
| Laney | but this list archive is private and I don't know where to look for the outcome | 16:18 |
| * ScottK takes it as "SABDFL has spoken" so we can move on. | 16:18 | |
| Laney | :) | 16:19 |
| ScottK | BTW, TB vice CC. | 16:19 |
| Laney | See the message up-thread, the TB decided to have the CC decide | 16:19 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 16:20 |
| Laney | czajkowski: dholbach: could one of you please read that ^ thread in community-council@ and see if you can find the outcome? | 16:21 |
| Laney | I'm sure it is in public somewhere but I can't find it | 16:21 |
| dholbach | Laney, there was no further discussion in the thread on the CC list | 16:23 |
| Laney | Well, I guess that's that then | 16:24 |
| jjohansen | \o | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | hi! | 16:35 |
| * jdstrand is happy to start the meeting nearly on time this week | 16:35 | |
| jdstrand | #startmeeting | 16:35 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Nov 17 16:36:04 2014 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:36 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Announcements | 16:36 |
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| jdstrand | Thanks to Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) who provided debdiffs for lucid-utopic for konversation (LP: #1389296) and debdiffs for precise-utopic for kde-workspace (LP: #1389665). Your work is very much appreciated and will keep our users secure. Great job! :) | 16:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1389296 in konversation (Ubuntu Vivid) "konversation: out-of-bounds read on a heap-allocated array" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1389296 | 16:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1389665 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu Utopic) "privilage escalation in clock kcontrol" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1389665 | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:36 |
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| jdstrand | I'll go first | 16:36 |
| Riddell | jdstrand: got another one coming shortly.. | 16:36 |
| chrisccoulson | hi! | 16:37 |
| jdstrand | Riddell: cool, thanks! mention it in #ubuntu-hardened (or just subscribe ubuntu-security-sponsors) and we'll get someone assigned | 16:37 |
| jdstrand | so, the good news is I actually got to quite a few updates last week, which was nice | 16:38 |
| jdstrand | the PM team wanted to get a couple of policy updates in for rtm though, so between that and some embargoed work, I didn't get to a number of things I set out to do last week | 16:39 |
| jdstrand | for this week | 16:39 |
| jdstrand | I have more embargoed work | 16:39 |
| jdstrand | I'm on triage | 16:39 |
| jdstrand | I need to finish up my apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu updates for vivid | 16:39 |
| jdstrand | finish the 0.3 click-apparmor upload | 16:40 |
| jdstrand | have more click-reviewers-tools updates that came up last week (I did get to a few fixes there, but need to add these new ones) | 16:41 |
| jdstrand | I think this is the week for me adding derivative branches support to UCT | 16:41 |
| jdstrand | I hope to finish my upstream patch for docker so it can apply policy based on parser capabilities | 16:41 |
| jdstrand | and then I will be attending the cloud sprint on wednesday since they are in town | 16:42 |
| jdstrand | that sounds like an awful lot-- 3 of those are close to done, so hopefully it is actually doable | 16:42 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you're up | 16:42 |
| mdeslaur | \o | 16:43 |
| mdeslaur | I'm on community this week | 16:43 |
| mdeslaur | I'm currently working on sponsoring quassel updates | 16:43 |
| mdeslaur | I have an embargoed issue to test and release | 16:43 |
| mdeslaur | and have further updates beyond that, the list is growing again :P | 16:43 |
| mdeslaur | that's about it, sbeattie, you're up | 16:43 |
| tyhicks | I'll go and we can circle back to him | 16:44 |
| tyhicks | I need to publish an update for apparmor in trusty today (prep and testing is already done) | 16:45 |
| tyhicks | I'll have to knock off all the dust on the instruction manual before doing so | 16:45 |
| jdstrand | heh | 16:46 |
| mdeslaur | tyhicks: is that just for that particular bug, or does it have the tools updates in it too? | 16:46 |
| tyhicks | mdeslaur: it is only for that bug | 16:46 |
| mdeslaur | tyhicks: you mean re-learn the secret handshake :) | 16:46 |
| tyhicks | mdeslaur: it'll be going to -security | 16:46 |
| mdeslaur | ah, right, cool | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | mdeslaur: at least this handshake is well documented :) | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | after that, my focus for this week will be on fixing bug #1390592 and making the apparmor cache handling code a library | 16:47 |
| ubottu | bug 1390592 in apparmor (Ubuntu Trusty) "'ptrace peer=@{profile_name}' does not work on 14.04 (at least) with docker" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1390592 | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | both of those were on my plate last week but the apparmor bug kept me from accomplishing much there | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | that's it for me | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 16:47 |
| jjohansen | I need to finish up a kernel sync of apparmor for vivid, after which I will get back to working on apparmor stacking | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: isn't 1390592 the bug for the trusty update? | 16:48 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: yes - I meant bug #1362469 | 16:49 |
| ubottu | bug 1362469 in dbus (Ubuntu) "AppArmor unrequested reply protection generates unallowable denials" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1362469 | 16:49 |
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| jdstrand | jjohansen: didn't mean to interrupt, please continue | 16:50 |
| jjohansen | np | 16:50 |
| jjohansen | hopefully I will spend some more time poking at the upstreaming of apparmor's labeling bits this week as well | 16:51 |
| jjohansen | that is it for me, sarnold you're up | 16:52 |
| sarnold | I'm in the happy place this week | 16:53 |
| sarnold | last week, on community, otto provided a debdiff for trusty's mariadb-5.5, but I hadn't noticed that utopic didn't already have the 5.5.40 release. So, this week I'll be picking pu the pieces from that update | 16:53 |
| sarnold | I also have two MIRs to work on, thanks for submitting those nice and early in the cycle :) | 16:54 |
| sarnold | and I know there's some outstanding apparmor patches that need review. I'd like to make a sweep through that if there's time left over. | 16:54 |
| sarnold | that's it for me, chrisccoulson? | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | sarnold: I didn't pay attention on friday-- did you get to tvoss code review? | 16:54 |
| sarnold | jdstrand: yes, it looked good to me, I had some follow-up questions that I'm curious about but don't warrant blocking that update from being pushed in | 16:55 |
| jdstrand | nice, thanks | 16:55 |
| mdeslaur | sarnold: If you run out of things to do, I'd appreciate help with some updates | 16:55 |
| sarnold | mdeslaur: okay, thanks | 16:55 |
| chrisccoulson | this week, I've got an oxide update (and hopefully chromium too). Will also be reviewing updates to the mediahub branch. Other than that, it's business as usual | 16:55 |
| chrisccoulson | I'm done btw :) | 16:56 |
| chrisccoulson | I need to drop out btw. I've got to go to the chemist to pick up some antibiotics for one of my kids | 17:00 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: thanks | 17:02 |
| * sbeattie is here | 17:03 | |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: I can give my status update | 17:05 |
| sbeattie | I'm still working on gcc pie-by-default for amd64; I have gcc packages in https://launchpad.net/~sbeattie/+archive/ubuntu/gcc-pie-amd64/+packages along with a rebuilt glibc | 17:06 |
| sbeattie | I've been trying local builds against it, but keep running into FTBFS with packages (postgres, ruby, python) that aren't caused by my changes, the original build fails (usually in a testsuite) as well. | 17:07 |
| sbeattie | I've rebuilt a couple of packages successfully and verified the binaries are pie on amd64. | 17:08 |
| mdeslaur | cool | 17:08 |
| sbeattie | I need to clean up the gcc patch a bit, and look at its additional testsuite failures. | 17:08 |
| sbeattie | Other than that I have some apparmor patches to review. | 17:09 |
| sbeattie | That's pretty much it for me. | 17:09 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: back to you. | 17:09 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 17:10 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| jdstrand | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 17:10 |
| jdstrand | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 17:10 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gpw.html | 17:10 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/eet.html | 17:10 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/icecast2.html | 17:10 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/claws-mail-extra-plugins.html | 17:10 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/xbuffy.html | 17:11 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 17:11 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions | ||
| jdstrand | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 17:11 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold, chrisccoulson: thanks! | 17:16 |
| jdstrand | #endmeeting | 17:16 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Nov 17 17:16:56 2014 UTC. | 17:16 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-11-17-16.36.moin.txt | 17:16 |
| sbeattie | thanks, jdstrand | 17:16 |
| tyhicks | thanks! | 17:16 |
| jjohansen | thanks jdstrand | 17:17 |
| mdeslaur | thanks jdstrand! | 17:17 |
| sarnold | jdstrand: thanks! | 17:23 |
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