| bazhang | helenakitty = super bad news | 00:01 |
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| k1l_ | yep, they seem to goup up in any channel | 00:01 |
| k1l_ | +group | 00:02 |
| bazhang | tag team trolls | 00:02 |
| eblip | hey can an op please help me | 01:48 |
| eblip | yesterday i was helping someone with ssh and an op said i dont know what i am talking about | 01:49 |
| eblip | what kind of way is that to speak to someone who is trying to help another ubuntu user | 01:49 |
| eblip | anyway i didnt know the person was an op and i said ..well clearly you dont know what your talking about | 01:49 |
| eblip | as i work with ssh issues daily | 01:50 |
| eblip | then i was banned | 01:50 |
| eblip | after that ..i noticed the op still hadnt sorted out the ssh users issue after about 30 minutes and it was an easy solution | 01:50 |
| eblip | so i contacted the op and said ...you still havent sorted out that solution for which i dont know what im talking about | 01:51 |
| eblip | and got banned | 01:51 |
| eblip | teh op then said i think you require another ban | 01:51 |
| eblip | or something along those lines | 01:51 |
| eblip | can someone please firstly have words with the op | 01:51 |
| eblip | and say that if someone is trying to help another user...then telling them they dont know what they are talking aout is an insult | 01:51 |
| eblip | and then ask them why they siad that | 01:52 |
| eblip | and then unban me | 01:52 |
| eblip | still cant get my head round how getting a verbose output from an ssh connection when someones connection is failing means you dont know what your talking about | 01:53 |
| Flannel | Hi eblip. | 01:54 |
| eblip | hi Flannel | 01:55 |
| eblip | normally i see users banned for being off topic ...or for swearing ....things like that ..not for helping another user | 01:56 |
| Flannel | eblip: I'm going to sidestep the whole issue of what happened yesterday. Have you read the IRC guidelines and Code of Conduct? | 01:56 |
| eblip | erm ....well no .. | 01:56 |
| Flannel | eblip: No worries. | 01:56 |
| Flannel | !guidelines | 01:56 |
| ubottu | The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 01:56 |
| eblip | but i have been using irc for about a year now and never been banned | 01:56 |
| Flannel | I understand. | 01:57 |
| eblip | ah ok ill read them. | 01:57 |
| Flannel | eblip: Go ahead and take a few minutes to read through that, and the code of conduct. I'm not saying you're a trouble maker or that you need to change your behavior in general, it's just a good chance for me to get you to read them :) | 01:57 |
| eblip | yes fine i understand | 01:58 |
| eblip | ha ha....dont cross post your messages.! ...phew i do that all the time | 01:58 |
| eblip | didnt know | 01:59 |
| eblip | ah ok | 02:01 |
| eblip | i get the right behaviour now... | 02:02 |
| Flannel | eblip: Having folks read the guidelines is just something we make everyone do, but I'm glad you're picking up on things you can improve upon. | 02:02 |
| eblip | yes i have done a few things that are illegal | 02:03 |
| eblip | didnt know | 02:03 |
| Flannel | not "illegal" but OK. And from the look of it, your current ban has nothing to do with most of those things. | 02:03 |
| Flannel | Anyway, have you read that? | 02:03 |
| eblip | it was just that i was told i didnt know what i was talking about when i said try ssh -vvv xyz@abc | 02:04 |
| eblip | annd a person i later found was an op said i don tknow what im talking about | 02:04 |
| eblip | so i just dittoed it back | 02:05 |
| Flannel | eblip: yeah, it appears your current ban is mostly related to a personal issue, not a policy one. Anyway, have you read the whole IRC guidelines? | 02:05 |
| eblip | yes | 02:05 |
| Flannel | and you're up for following them? | 02:05 |
| eblip | yes | 02:06 |
| Flannel | alright. I've removed your ban in #ubuntu, please join there now (and say something) so I can verify I did it correctly. | 02:06 |
| eblip | ok thanks bear with me | 02:06 |
| Flannel | eblip: yep. Looks good. | 02:07 |
| eblip | yes im in ...well thanks ...have a nice day | 02:07 |
| Flannel | eblip: If there's nothing else we can do for you today in here, please part #ubuntu-ops to help us keep it clear for others. Thanks. | 02:09 |
| Flannel | eblip: bots aren't allowed, so please remove that second user, thanks. | 02:11 |
| eblip | hey flannel | 02:12 |
| eblip | its not a bot...its an account i normally use form the laptop | 02:12 |
| eblip | so my friends know if im at home or iif i am out and about | 02:12 |
| Flannel | alright, either way, if there's nothing else we can help you with today, please part this channel. | 02:13 |
| eblip | thanks | 02:13 |
| HelenaKitty | It doesn't make sense as to why I have been silenced. For several hours I had been AFK and before I went AFK I was able to talk fine. | 03:57 |
| HelenaKitty | Now please could somebody give me an insight on why you would want to silence me for nothing? | 03:57 |
| HelenaKitty | I was warned not to swear and I abided by my warning so what is the actual issue? | 03:58 |
| k1l_ | HelenaKitty: i muted you and your trollgang to prevent the ubuntu supportchannel from more disturbance. | 04:02 |
| HelenaKitty | I was AFK when you did it. I also accepted a warning I got for swearing. Me misbehaving isn't a valid excuse because that had been resolve like before I even went AFK. | 04:03 |
| k1l_ | that is not true. i muted you and your other mates right when you were not afk. | 04:04 |
| HelenaKitty | My mates? | 04:05 |
| HelenaKitty | Logs? | 04:05 |
| k1l_ | i warned you even before not to stirr up drama and to stick to the guidelines after your mate told in #ubuntu that you told others what is happening in #ubuntu and them joining trying to stirr up more drama. | 04:06 |
| HelenaKitty | What? | 04:06 |
| HelenaKitty | You think that because somebody joined the channel and started mentioning me that they're my mates?! | 04:07 |
| HelenaKitty | Why don't you please just lift my mute and we be done with it? | 04:07 |
| k1l_ | then you were asked again by another user to stop your behavior (another issue right now) and one of the user joined prior said: ":popcorn:". so i muted all of you to keep the supportchannel able to do what the intention is: help user of ubuntu. | 04:08 |
| k1l_ | HelenaKitty: so you deny you never told in any other channel or PM to other user, that joined #ubuntu what happens there and to join there? | 04:09 |
| HelenaKitty | So... somebody joined and you muted all of us? That's weird management you got there. You're implying that you associate me with the other people who joined. | 04:09 |
| k1l_ | with the intention to troll? | 04:09 |
| k1l_ | HelenaKitty: so can you explain to me what this message was about? "<ronsor> LOL <ronsor> Helenakitty told me what happened hehe" | 04:11 |
| HelenaKitty | I don't know what that is k1l_ | 04:11 |
| HelenaKitty | I saw them join and say that. I didn't know what he was implying or what he was associating that message with. | 04:12 |
| k1l_ | really? | 04:12 |
| k1l_ | how come you answer that: "<HelenaKitty> ronsor, :)" | 04:12 |
| HelenaKitty | I was only responding to him, doesn't mean I know what the message meant! | 04:13 |
| k1l_ | i give you some minutes now to read the backlog of http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/11/16/%23ubuntu.html#t23:56 as a second chance to tell the truth. | 04:14 |
| HelenaKitty | YEs I was abusive to a person asking for support by telling them "read the fucking manual", I am not gonna deny that. | 04:14 |
| HelenaKitty | 1min... | 04:15 |
| HelenaKitty | k1l_, I don't know what that message means! | 04:16 |
| HelenaKitty | What does "Helenakitty told me what happened hehe" mean? It looks very vague to me! | 04:16 |
| HelenaKitty | Look... I am story that I was horrible to that person. Can we please just move on from all this?! | 04:20 |
| HelenaKitty | All I want is support here! | 04:20 |
| HelenaKitty | *sorry | 04:20 |
| k1l_ | HelenaKitty: ok. i will provide you a second chance. but make sure you read the !guidelines and stick to the rules and be aware that you dont spoil that second chance. #ubuntu is meant to be a support channel for users who seek help and not a trollpit. | 04:22 |
| k1l_ | !guidelines | 04:22 |
| ubottu | The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 04:22 |
| HelenaKitty | THank you very much! :) | 04:22 |
| k1l_ | be aware that any missbehaviour will likely lead to a ban. | 04:24 |
| k1l_ | if that issue is resolved please part this channel as mentioned in the topic. thanks | 04:24 |
| ubottu | cfhowlett called the ops in #ubuntu (fustirge just pm spammed me.) | 08:38 |
| DJones | Removed from channel, "soy gratis" spammer for a .es website | 08:41 |
| DJones | I've set +q on *!*@static-217-133-14-252.clienti.tiscali.it Appears to be an Italian kindergarten class using #ubuntu as a personal chat room & ignoring requests to stop | 08:49 |
| DJones | +q removed, nobody joining for the last 30 minutes | 09:27 |
| === PriceChild is now known as Pricey | ||
| === jtrucks_ is now known as jtrucks | ||
| DJones | Do we have a HFSplus sighting in floatmastaflex in 'abuntu | 20:12 |
| rww | (no) | 20:34 |
| bazhang | dont bother arguing with him/her | 21:20 |
| bazhang | they tag team multiple channels network wide | 21:21 |
| bazhang | 'ronser'/ronsor is a cohort with that | 21:21 |
| bazhang | (Helenakitty) | 21:21 |
| ikonia | fine, they can go if they keep this crap up then | 21:22 |
| bazhang | that ice is super thin | 21:22 |
| k1l | i did mute helenakitty and ronsor and other buddies yesterday. after that "she" came here playing the innocent and i removed the mute but warned her that this is the 2nd chance | 21:23 |
| Jordan_U | ikonia: I feel like I shouldn't have to !language a #ubuntu op... | 21:23 |
| HelenaKitty | I'm going elsewhere for my support. | 21:23 |
| HelenaKitty | Thanks for your time. | 21:23 |
| bazhang | bye | 21:23 |
| ikonia | Jordan_U: you don't | 21:23 |
| bazhang | I saw no lang violations..was this somewhere other than #u ? | 21:26 |
| ikonia | I think Jordan_U didn't like that I used the word crap | 21:26 |
| ikonia | I was unaware you found it offensive, sorry | 21:26 |
| k1l | ikonia: Flannel did remove the ban on that guy. | 21:26 |
| bazhang | ah ok | 21:26 |
| k1l | eblip to be specific | 21:26 |
| bazhang | I usually let that, and damn, slide | 21:27 |
| ikonia | k1l: oh, it's not showing up in bt | 21:28 |
| ikonia | I'll remove it and message him to explain/apologies | 21:28 |
| ikonia | k1l: thanks | 21:28 |
| Jordan_U | Fair enough. Now that I think about it I think that was one of the first things I added to my opnotes.txt ("crap" isn't considered problematic in #ubuntu). | 21:29 |
| ikonia | Jordan_U: doesn't matter, if it bothers you - sorry | 21:31 |
| ikonia | I've messaged eblip too | 21:31 |
| Jordan_U | ikonia: Apology accepted then :) | 21:32 |
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