[00:01] helenakitty = super bad news [00:01] yep, they seem to goup up in any channel [00:02] +group [00:02] tag team trolls [01:48] hey can an op please help me [01:49] yesterday i was helping someone with ssh and an op said i dont know what i am talking about [01:49] what kind of way is that to speak to someone who is trying to help another ubuntu user [01:49] anyway i didnt know the person was an op and i said ..well clearly you dont know what your talking about [01:50] as i work with ssh issues daily [01:50] then i was banned [01:50] after that ..i noticed the op still hadnt sorted out the ssh users issue after about 30 minutes and it was an easy solution [01:51] so i contacted the op and said ...you still havent sorted out that solution for which i dont know what im talking about [01:51] and got banned [01:51] teh op then said i think you require another ban [01:51] or something along those lines [01:51] can someone please firstly have words with the op [01:51] and say that if someone is trying to help another user...then telling them they dont know what they are talking aout is an insult [01:52] and then ask them why they siad that [01:52] and then unban me [01:53] still cant get my head round how getting a verbose output from an ssh connection when someones connection is failing means you dont know what your talking about [01:54] Hi eblip. [01:55] hi Flannel [01:56] normally i see users banned for being off topic ...or for swearing ....things like that ..not for helping another user [01:56] eblip: I'm going to sidestep the whole issue of what happened yesterday. Have you read the IRC guidelines and Code of Conduct? [01:56] erm ....well no .. [01:56] eblip: No worries. [01:56] !guidelines [01:56] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [01:56] but i have been using irc for about a year now and never been banned [01:57] I understand. [01:57] ah ok ill read them. [01:57] eblip: Go ahead and take a few minutes to read through that, and the code of conduct. I'm not saying you're a trouble maker or that you need to change your behavior in general, it's just a good chance for me to get you to read them :) [01:58] yes fine i understand [01:58] ha ha....dont cross post your messages.! ...phew i do that all the time [01:59] didnt know [02:01] ah ok [02:02] i get the right behaviour now... [02:02] eblip: Having folks read the guidelines is just something we make everyone do, but I'm glad you're picking up on things you can improve upon. [02:03] yes i have done a few things that are illegal [02:03] didnt know [02:03] not "illegal" but OK. And from the look of it, your current ban has nothing to do with most of those things. [02:03] Anyway, have you read that? [02:04] it was just that i was told i didnt know what i was talking about when i said try ssh -vvv xyz@abc [02:04] annd a person i later found was an op said i don tknow what im talking about [02:05] so i just dittoed it back [02:05] eblip: yeah, it appears your current ban is mostly related to a personal issue, not a policy one. Anyway, have you read the whole IRC guidelines? [02:05] yes [02:05] and you're up for following them? [02:06] yes [02:06] alright. I've removed your ban in #ubuntu, please join there now (and say something) so I can verify I did it correctly. [02:06] ok thanks bear with me [02:07] eblip: yep. Looks good. [02:07] yes im in ...well thanks ...have a nice day [02:09] eblip: If there's nothing else we can do for you today in here, please part #ubuntu-ops to help us keep it clear for others. Thanks. [02:11] eblip: bots aren't allowed, so please remove that second user, thanks. [02:12] hey flannel [02:12] its not a bot...its an account i normally use form the laptop [02:12] so my friends know if im at home or iif i am out and about [02:13] alright, either way, if there's nothing else we can help you with today, please part this channel. [02:13] thanks [03:57] It doesn't make sense as to why I have been silenced. For several hours I had been AFK and before I went AFK I was able to talk fine. [03:57] Now please could somebody give me an insight on why you would want to silence me for nothing? [03:58] I was warned not to swear and I abided by my warning so what is the actual issue? [04:02] HelenaKitty: i muted you and your trollgang to prevent the ubuntu supportchannel from more disturbance. [04:03] I was AFK when you did it. I also accepted a warning I got for swearing. Me misbehaving isn't a valid excuse because that had been resolve like before I even went AFK. [04:04] that is not true. i muted you and your other mates right when you were not afk. [04:05] My mates? [04:05] Logs? [04:06] i warned you even before not to stirr up drama and to stick to the guidelines after your mate told in #ubuntu that you told others what is happening in #ubuntu and them joining trying to stirr up more drama. [04:06] What? [04:07] You think that because somebody joined the channel and started mentioning me that they're my mates?! [04:07] Why don't you please just lift my mute and we be done with it? [04:08] then you were asked again by another user to stop your behavior (another issue right now) and one of the user joined prior said: ":popcorn:". so i muted all of you to keep the supportchannel able to do what the intention is: help user of ubuntu. [04:09] HelenaKitty: so you deny you never told in any other channel or PM to other user, that joined #ubuntu what happens there and to join there? [04:09] So... somebody joined and you muted all of us? That's weird management you got there. You're implying that you associate me with the other people who joined. [04:09] with the intention to troll? [04:11] HelenaKitty: so can you explain to me what this message was about? " LOL Helenakitty told me what happened hehe" [04:11] I don't know what that is k1l_ [04:12] I saw them join and say that. I didn't know what he was implying or what he was associating that message with. [04:12] really? [04:12] how come you answer that: " ronsor, :)" [04:13] I was only responding to him, doesn't mean I know what the message meant! [04:14] i give you some minutes now to read the backlog of http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/11/16/%23ubuntu.html#t23:56 as a second chance to tell the truth. [04:14] YEs I was abusive to a person asking for support by telling them "read the fucking manual", I am not gonna deny that. [04:15] 1min... [04:16] k1l_, I don't know what that message means! [04:16] What does "Helenakitty told me what happened hehe" mean? It looks very vague to me! [04:20] Look... I am story that I was horrible to that person. Can we please just move on from all this?! [04:20] All I want is support here! [04:20] *sorry [04:22] HelenaKitty: ok. i will provide you a second chance. but make sure you read the !guidelines and stick to the rules and be aware that you dont spoil that second chance. #ubuntu is meant to be a support channel for users who seek help and not a trollpit. [04:22] !guidelines [04:22] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [04:22] THank you very much! :) [04:24] be aware that any missbehaviour will likely lead to a ban. [04:24] if that issue is resolved please part this channel as mentioned in the topic. thanks [08:38] cfhowlett called the ops in #ubuntu (fustirge just pm spammed me.) [08:41] Removed from channel, "soy gratis" spammer for a .es website [08:49] I've set +q on *!*@static-217-133-14-252.clienti.tiscali.it Appears to be an Italian kindergarten class using #ubuntu as a personal chat room & ignoring requests to stop [09:27] +q removed, nobody joining for the last 30 minutes === PriceChild is now known as Pricey === jtrucks_ is now known as jtrucks [20:12] Do we have a HFSplus sighting in floatmastaflex in 'abuntu [20:34] (no) [21:20] dont bother arguing with him/her [21:21] they tag team multiple channels network wide [21:21] 'ronser'/ronsor is a cohort with that [21:21] (Helenakitty) [21:22] fine, they can go if they keep this crap up then [21:22] that ice is super thin [21:23] i did mute helenakitty and ronsor and other buddies yesterday. after that "she" came here playing the innocent and i removed the mute but warned her that this is the 2nd chance [21:23] ikonia: I feel like I shouldn't have to !language a #ubuntu op... [21:23] I'm going elsewhere for my support. [21:23] Thanks for your time. [21:23] bye [21:23] Jordan_U: you don't [21:26] I saw no lang violations..was this somewhere other than #u ? [21:26] I think Jordan_U didn't like that I used the word crap [21:26] I was unaware you found it offensive, sorry [21:26] ikonia: Flannel did remove the ban on that guy. [21:26] ah ok [21:26] eblip to be specific [21:27] I usually let that, and damn, slide [21:28] k1l: oh, it's not showing up in bt [21:28] I'll remove it and message him to explain/apologies [21:28] k1l: thanks [21:29] Fair enough. Now that I think about it I think that was one of the first things I added to my opnotes.txt ("crap" isn't considered problematic in #ubuntu). [21:31] Jordan_U: doesn't matter, if it bothers you - sorry [21:31] I've messaged eblip too [21:32] ikonia: Apology accepted then :)