[01:04] <DonkeyHotei> o/
[02:21] <DonkeyHotei> don't forget to change it again after
[02:21] <rww> A bunch of places need updating, I'm going to sit down and do it today :)
[02:56] <rww> Howdy. I'll kick off a meeting in 5 minutes. There's nothing on the agenda right now, so if you have something to discuss feel free to throw it out there or I'll just go straight to Any Other Business.
[02:57] <DonkeyHotei> ideas for events?
[02:57] <DonkeyHotei> also, SCaLE
[02:58] <rww> call for nominations for 2015 leadership is coming up next month
[02:58]  * rww ponders what else
[02:58] <rww> next meeting is on Sunday of thanksgiving weekend
[02:59] <eps> Heh. That's the busiest travel day of the year.
[02:59] <DonkeyHotei> good luck getting items for THAT agenda
[02:59] <rww> indeed
[03:00] <rww> #startmeeting
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[03:00] <rww> #topic Roll call
[03:00] <rww> Raise your hands in the air
[03:00] <rww> like you just don't care?
[03:00] <rww> o/
[03:00] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-11-16 05:04:05 PM PST] <DonkeyHotei> o/
[03:00] <nhaines> _o/
[03:00] <ianorlin> o/
[03:00] <eps> o|
[03:00] <elky> o/
[03:01] <ianorlin> wait but I am left handed does that mean I should go \o
[03:01] <DonkeyHotei> ô
[03:02] <rww> woohoo, people
[03:02] <elky> ianorlin: you should try use your offhand as much as possible so it stays strong :P
[03:02] <rww> alrighty, I'm going to take the topics in reverse chronological order because why not
[03:02] <rww> #topic Next meeting date
[03:02] <rww> Next meeting is scheduled for November 30th right now, which is on the Sunday of Thanksgiving week.
[03:02] <rww> I guess that's sub-optimal. Shall I suggest on the mailing list that we skip/postpone that one?
[03:03] <rww> (and if so, which of skip/postpone)
[03:03] <ianorlin> postpone
[03:03] <elky> skip
[03:03] <DonkeyHotei> maybe the previous sunday?
[03:03] <elky> the last few agendas have been so busy and all </s>
[03:03] <eps> skip until Dec. 14
[03:04] <rww> ianorlin: until the 7th I guess?
[03:04] <ianorlin> yes
[03:04] <nhaines> Skip.
[03:05] <DonkeyHotei> 3 skips so far
[03:06] <rww> If we postpone, it's 7th and 21st. if we skip, it's 14th and 28th
[03:06]  * rww ponders
[03:06] <rww> or 7th and 14th I guess
[03:06] <DonkeyHotei> 21st is close to christmas, 28th is close to new year's
[03:07] <rww> I'll email the mailing list about meetings in december in general, and try to get consensus by the 23rd. Does that work for everyone?
[03:07] <ianorlin> yes
[03:07] <elky> yep
[03:07] <DonkeyHotei> "
[03:08] <eps> abstain
[03:08] <rww> #action rww to email ML tonight about December meetings, decision by 23rd
[03:08] <darthrobot> ACTION: rww to email ML tonight about December meetings, decision by 23rd
[03:08] <nhaines> Sounds good to me.
[03:08] <rww> #topic 2015 leadership election reminder
[03:09] <rww> This is pretty much just a note that we have an election coming up. Based on the timing last year, there should be a nomination period in December and election in January.
[03:09] <rww> jyo did it last year, but I'm not running this year and am fine with doing it instead. Whatever works.
[03:09] <rww> Anyone have any election-related comments?
[03:10] <DonkeyHotei> great because jyo is hereby nominated
[03:10] <rww> I forget whether nominations are self-nominations or not.
[03:10] <nhaines> I approve of elections in general.
[03:11] <DonkeyHotei> i believe both are acceptable
[03:11] <rww> yeah, looks like non-self was fine last year and jyo checked in with nominees before election to see if they actually want to run
[03:12] <rww> however, the nomination period isn't open yet, so hold that thought until it is ;)
[03:12] <rww> anyone have any questions/comments/concerns about that whole process?
[03:12]  * ianorlin doesn't
[03:14] <rww> alrighty, moving onwards
[03:14] <rww> #topic SCaLE
[03:15] <rww> #link http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale13x
[03:15] <darthrobot> Title: [SCALE 13x | scale13x]
[03:15] <nhaines> I also approve of SCaLE in general.
[03:15] <DonkeyHotei> nhaines: you gonna do ubucon again?
[03:15] <rww> Looks like it's scheduled for February 19-22, 2015 this year, at Hilton LAX (again).
[03:16] <rww> If anyone's interested in presenting at SCaLE itself, see https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/cfp and submit a proposal by the 10th
[03:16] <darthrobot> Title: [Call for Papers | SCALE 13x]
[03:16] <rww> Who's planning on going so far? (I'm not, busy at work around then.)
[03:16] <eps> I hope most of you have already made arrangements. Affordable travel and accommodations are going to disappear soon, if they haven't already. Cheap seats on Megabus are already sold out.
[03:17] <nhaines> I'm planning to be there.  I'll take charge of the booth this year.
[03:18] <DonkeyHotei> affordable accommodations never *completely* sold out before, just needed an extra drive
[03:18] <eps> We need a discount code for regular attendees and the usual packet for workers.
[03:18] <rww> nhaines: do you want to coordinate with the SCaLE folks to get the booth registered and such?
[03:18] <nhaines> Ooh, tht's a good idea.  Yeah, I'll handle that this year and get the discount code and stuff.
[03:19] <eps> This year looks different ... the usual overflow hotels are horrendously expensive, suggesting there's another major event on those dates.
[03:19] <nhaines> eps: that all comes together with the packet.
[03:19] <rww> nhaines: ta. CC: the leadership folks on emails so we know status please :)
[03:20] <ianorlin> I am
[03:20] <eps> Note that SCaLE has expanded to four days.
[03:20] <rww> also, I notice that since action can't be taken on non-agendized items, I'll be emailing the list asking for input before making that decision "official"
[03:20] <rww> so hold off about a week
[03:20] <rww> #action rww to email list about SCaLE, recommending voluntelling nhaines to coordinate booth work
[03:20] <darthrobot> ACTION: rww to email list about SCaLE, recommending voluntelling nhaines to coordinate booth work
[03:20] <nhaines> Sounds good to me.
[03:20] <eps> Put SCaLE discussion on the next agenda.
[03:21] <rww> #action rww to add SCaLE to the next meeting agenda when he makes the next meeting agenda tonight
[03:21] <darthrobot> ACTION: rww to add SCaLE to the next meeting agenda when he makes the next meeting agenda tonight
[03:21] <rww> (I'll date it for the 30th, until we decide what date to move it to)
[03:23] <rww> Any other SCaLE comments/questions/discussion?
[03:23] <DonkeyHotei> look for accommodations in the Monterey Park area?
[03:24] <eps> DonkeyHotei: that's a bit of a commute
[03:24] <DonkeyHotei> yep
[03:24] <ianorlin> my commute is from Torrance
[03:24] <ianorlin> at my parents house
[03:25] <DonkeyHotei> torrance is closer
[03:28] <rww> if anyone needs to do rideshare and such, that'd be something to bring up in here pretty shortly
[03:28] <rww> anyways, next topic
[03:28] <rww> #topic Event ideas
[03:28] <DonkeyHotei> personally i can't afford to attend at all without free room & board atm, but if i did, my car seats 5 total
[03:29] <eps> nhaines: Do you approve of events in general?
[03:30] <DonkeyHotei> i approve of NorCal events in particular
[03:31] <nhaines> eps: indeed I do!
[03:31]  * eps does too
[03:32] <rww> any ideas for them? :3
[03:32] <nhaines> Every so often OCLUG talks about the old Linux Day events they used to host at Microcenter.
[03:32] <nhaines> It might be fun to do that sort of thing.
[03:33] <rww> what's a Linux Day?
[03:34] <nhaines> They set up a table inside or in front of Microcenter with Linux on them and showed it off, gave out discs, and probably recommended some systems that were compatible.
[03:34] <ianorlin> ah nice
[03:34] <DonkeyHotei> NorCal no longer has a Microcenter
[03:34] <eps> DonkeyHotei: whaaa?
[03:34] <ianorlin> except I might lose money from spending it
[03:35] <DonkeyHotei> eps: they closed a couple years back
[03:35] <DonkeyHotei> 2010 i think
[03:35] <eps> Darn. Looks like just Tustin now.
[03:36] <nhaines> Oh, bummer.
[03:36] <DonkeyHotei> they didn't even tell the employees not to show up for work at the time
[03:38] <eps> Well, I guess we'll have to find another place to warn people about Bay Trail-based hardware.
[03:38] <nhaines> Anyway, it might be fun to organize these kinds of events at smaller computer shops.  I'm going to try and gather information from those who ran the last ones.
[03:39] <DonkeyHotei> there are smaller computer shops?
[03:40] <nhaines> yes.  When you look at all computer shops, they are of various sizes.
[03:42] <rww> as far as tabling goes, there's also farmers markets and other community gathering type stuff
[03:44] <nhaines> That's true.  I've pondered the idea of exhibiting at swap meets or farmers markets.
[03:46] <rww> #topic Any Other Business
[03:46] <rww> anything else anyone would like to cover tonight?
[03:46]  * DonkeyHotei puts a lid on it
[03:47] <nhaines> I'm good for now.
[03:47]  * eps moves for adjournment
[03:48] <rww> and I think everyone else wandered off
[03:48] <nhaines> I approve of adjourment in general.
[03:48]  * rww bans meeting hammer
[03:48] <rww> #endmeeting
[03:48] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Nov 17 03:48:55 2014 UTC.
[03:48] <darthrobot> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2014/ubuntu-us-ca.2014-11-17-03.00.moin.txt
[03:49] <DonkeyHotei> i don't see the meeting hammer in the channel banlist
[03:49] <rww> bangs, even :P
[03:50] <rww> I'll be around for a bit doing wiki-editing and emailing :)
[03:50] <DonkeyHotei> banlist is actually empty
[04:07] <rww> emails done, will start wikiwork in a minute
[04:44] <rww> meeting wiki stuff all done
[04:53] <nhaines> Good job, rww.
[04:54] <rww> Looking at team report stuff now. If we did anything in September, October, or this month apart from the usual team meetings and Ubuntu Hours (that are on loco.ubuntu.com), highlight me with info
[04:59] <rww> actually, I'll leave this month's team report until this month is almost over :)
[04:59] <rww> September done, doing October now
[05:04] <rww> done
[05:04]  * rww wanders off :)
[19:22] <philipballew> nhaines, for SCALE, I was going to request a conf pack this week.
[19:22] <philipballew> As I did that last year
[19:22] <philipballew> however last year took a phone call to London to totally get it here.
[19:34] <rww> conference pack needs to be requested by a team admin, so one of us three will be sorting that out indeed
[19:35] <rww> so yeah, I guess that's a you-thing philipballew
[19:36] <rww> although we might want to have it mailed to nhaines so he can organize it (and he lives nearer to SCaLE anyway)
[19:37] <philipballew> rww, yeah, I will get that sent this week. Also do we have a wiki page set up? If not, i can do that (these will probably be done Wednesday)
[19:37] <rww> i don't think we have a wikipage set up
[19:37] <philipballew> rww, I'll do the wiki page and email the group this week.
[19:37] <rww> thanks :)
[19:38] <philipballew> Perfect.
[19:40] <philipballew> yeah, if anyone ever needs to find me and I am not online: I always answer my phone: 530-305-6497