[00:00] <HelenaKitty> ronsor, :)
[00:00] <k1l_> HelenaKitty: ronsor this is the wrong channel for drama. stick to the guidelines or leave.
[00:00] <HelenaKitty> What?
[00:00] <HelenaKitty> I am waiting for a bit of support! Not may fault some randomer joined and started talking to me!
[00:00] <albert> bubbasaures, i clicked the bubble in software and updates, now i dont see it anymore after i rebootd, but dont see it in network connections
[00:01] <linux> like when i go to install it on my chromebook itll say tht its installed to hit enter to reboot and i do and ti gets stuck on the loading screen and says something like faled to boot or something like tht and it still has the files to the crubuntu tht i anitanally had but then like claboom im stuck in chrome os
[00:01]  * HelenaKitty sits and waits silently
[00:02] <linux> i want the crubuntu not chrome os i want my crubuntu back
[00:02] <linux> but its not letting me install it
[00:03] <bubbasaures> linux, Can you open gparted and take a screen shot and put it in a imagebin
[00:03] <linux> all cuz i fed up and put cgpt add -i 6 -P 5 -T 1 -S 0 /dev/sda in the cmd prompt
[00:03] <linux> and no i cant
[00:03] <HelenaKitty> linux, Why don't you install Ubuntu natively?!
[00:03] <albert> #nick pimpin
[00:04] <Rexter> HelenaKitty, a lot of that in here today, at least you had the balls to just say it.
[00:04] <linux> i cant do tht eather it wont let me
[00:04] <HelenaKitty> CrUbuntu isn't native.
[00:04] <HelenaKitty> Lol?
[00:04] <HelenaKitty> Are you sure you're using an x86 chromebook?!
[00:04] <Ben64> linux: only official ubuntu releases are supported here
[00:04] <Flannel> linux: You might try #chrubuntu, they hopefully can help you more than we can.
[00:04] <HelenaKitty> YOu're asking for support with CrUbuntu well this is native Ubuntu not CrUbuntu.
[00:05] <linux> ik when i use crouton or just  install it it wont let me
[00:05] <HelenaKitty> Now... if you atleast tried to install Ubuntu natively then we'd be luctant enough to support you with Ubuntu on your chromebook.
[00:05] <Flannel> linux: This is definitely a chromebook specific issue, you're unlikely to find anyone here who knows anything about it.  Try #chrubuntu
[00:06] <linux> kk
[00:06] <HelenaKitty> linux, I can't go as far as helping you with Chromebook hardware issues.
[00:06] <albert> how do i find out if my wirless pci card is working
[00:06] <linux> is there a channel for chromebook help
[00:06] <EriC^^> albert: iwlist scan ?
[00:06] <HelenaKitty> linux, Try #crubuntu
[00:07] <linux> kk
[00:07] <HelenaKitty> Once you've found out how to get Ubuntu on natively we can help you again.
[00:07] <HelenaKitty> with things in Ubuntu.
[00:07] <EriC^^> linux: or #chrubuntu
[00:07] <albert> EriC^^, interface not supported
[00:07] <HelenaKitty> Until then you need to go to that channel.
[00:07] <Flannel> HelenaKitty: Lay off.
[00:07] <HelenaKitty> Flannel, Lay off what?
[00:07] <Flannel> HelenaKitty: He's been told a number of times already, including a few by you, you don't need to keep repeating it.
[00:07] <tsunade> :popcorn:
[00:08] <HelenaKitty> I doubt #Chrubuntu are gonna how somebody with a native install when they run into problems!
[00:08] <HelenaKitty> Oh that. Okay understood. :)
[00:08] <Rexter> This channel is a mess today. Who's running this channel?
[00:09] <cryptodan> its being ran by the Penguins of Madagascar
[00:09] <albert> anyone know how to check for a pci card on zorin
[00:09] <EriC^^> albert: lspci -v
[00:10] <k1l_> albert: ask the zorin support because we dont know how they handle the drivers and modules and repositories
[00:10] <HappyNewYear13> what does native mean here? "the native Linux version of FireFox"
[00:11] <linux> could always just get a new hard drive
[00:11] <dominic1134> Hi guys, just want to inform you about a new open source email communication gateway project for ubuntu.  check it out www.openas.org  /  feel free to join us in #openas
[00:11] <Rexter> happyNewYear13; what the hell are you asking?
[00:11] <dominic1134> sorry.
[00:11] <albert> EriC^^, i see network controller how do i make it work ?
[00:11] <HappyNewYear13> i wanted to play isketch online after so many years and i just learned shockwave player is not available for linux
[00:12] <k1l_> HappyNewYear13: firefox offers several versions for windows and linuxes. so use the one from the ubuntu repos. that is made working with ubunut already
[00:12] <HappyNewYear13> Rexter, wikipedia says "It is also possible to use Shockwave in the native Linux version of FireFox by using the Pipelight plugin"
[00:12] <chrismatic> @HappyNewYear13 Shockwave Player == Flash player, I presume? If so, it is available for Firefox on ubuntu
[00:12] <albert> 11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[00:12] <albert> 	Subsystem: Broadcom Corporation Device 7001
[00:12] <albert> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 20
[00:12] <albert> 	Memory at e4100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
[00:12] <albert> 	Kernel driver in use: wl
[00:12] <HappyNewYear13> chrismatic, they are not the same
[00:12] <EriC^^> albert: usually you can check which drivers are loaded, etc. check the zorin channel for more info, please dont paste in the channel.
[00:13] <HappyNewYear13> chrismatic, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Shockwave#Platform_support
[00:13] <Flannel> HappyNewYear13: Native there is in contrast to a (windows) firefox running inside of wine.
[00:13] <HappyNewYear13> Flannel, cool. thank you
[00:14] <chrismatic> @HappyNewYear13 http://askubuntu.com/a/48188
[00:14] <HappyNewYear13> chrismatic, thank you very much
[00:15] <albert> anyone know a zorin channel
[00:15] <k1l_> albert: see their website where you can ask their specialists
[00:16] <albert> k1l_, its same as ubuntu
[00:16] <EriC^^> /msg alis list *zorin*
[00:16] <EriC^^> there's #zorinos , there's only 10 people there though
[00:25] <fingertips> I have a small problem but looking at it I can make it an opportunity.
[00:27] <HappyNewYear13> what problem?
[00:28] <HappyNewYear13> what problem? fingertips
[00:29] <fingertips> HappyNewYear13, :)
[00:30] <HappyNewYear13> is it sexual?
[00:30] <SchrodingersScat> !guidelines | HappyNewYear13
[00:30] <fingertips> HappyNewYear13, This system has avahi on it can you explain how I can manually enter the names of servers to the local DNS cache and explain how to save it for reuse?
[00:31] <HappyNewYear13> i know zilck about avahi
[00:31] <fingertips> ubottu, avahi
[00:31] <HappyNewYear13> it's zilch
[00:31] <HappyNewYear13> who is here an avahi expert?
[00:31] <fingertips> Guest91402, welcome
[00:32] <fingertips> I suppose I can start with a hostnames file.
[00:32] <shadaloo> hello i downloaded nvidia's linux drivers directly from nvidia.com and now i get the following error on login: 'unity-panel-service' and cannot load unity
[00:32] <fingertips> Where is the hostnames file on ubuntu?
[00:32] <shadaloo> can someone help me please
[00:32] <fingertips> shadaloo, first rule of inquisition do not ask for 'help'
[00:32] <HappyNewYear13> /etc/hosts
[00:32] <shadaloo> -.-
[00:33] <fingertips> Guest91402, I was shown to treat guests well.
[00:33] <Ben64> shadaloo: the drivers from nvidia.com are not recommended and not supported in this channel
[00:33] <chrismatic> @shadaloo what's broken?
[00:33] <shadaloo> Ben64: I can see why
[00:34] <shadaloo> Ben64: can you suggest a User interface like fluxbox or something so I can at least get back into my system
[00:34] <Ben64> shadaloo: well the real reason is because they're already in the ubuntu repositories
[00:34] <shadaloo> chrismatic: I broke unity
[00:34] <Ben64> !nvidia | shadaloo
[00:34] <shadaloo> chrismatic: after I login I get a system problem detected and then cannot do anything in the GUI/run programs
[00:34] <Ben64> shadaloo: uninstall the nvidia ones you got and follow the above instructions
[00:35] <fingertips> Guest91402, Don't mind the noise, is there anything I can do for you?
[00:35] <shadaloo> Ben64: how do I uninstall the nvidia ones?
[00:35] <Ben64> shadaloo: dunno, check the thing you installed
[00:35] <chrismatic> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*
[00:35] <fingertips> HappyNewYear13, appreciated, does /etc/hosts override all network lookups?
[00:35] <Ben64> chrismatic: won't have an effect on manually installed drivers
[00:36] <shadaloo> chrismatic: cheers
[00:36] <chrismatic> @Ben64 didn't realize they were manually installed. Sorry.
[00:36] <shadaloo> I will try that
[00:36] <Ben64> shadaloo: won't accomplish anything
[00:36] <chrismatic> If you didn't install them via apt, the above won't do anything.
[00:36] <HappyNewYear13> fingertips, i don't know friend i am not a network expert
[00:36] <shadaloo> chrismatic: I did not
[00:36] <chrismatic> Okay.
[00:37] <chrismatic> Locate the installer file you downloaded
[00:37] <chrismatic> (It's probably a .run file)
[00:37] <chrismatic> And run it with --uninstall
[00:37] <shadaloo> Ben64: what is in the VideoDriverHowto?
[00:37] <fingertips> HappyNewYear13, this is answered better by knowing how ubuntu is put together, but honest answers are always rewarded
[00:37] <HappyNewYear13> fingertips, it must because bad software always want attack the local hosts file
[00:37] <Ben64> shadaloo: all sorts of stuff... can you not browse to it
[00:37] <shadaloo> Ben64: I could use lynx
[00:38] <shadaloo> chrismatic: it is indeed a .run file
[00:38] <el3> Hey. I cannot get my ethernet to work on lubuntu. When I do a ifconfig it only gets a mac adress, no ip.
[00:38] <Ben64> shadaloo: uninstall nvidia first, you may get a usable desktop after
[00:38] <chrismatic> @shadaloo right. So, sudo yourRunFile.run --uninstall
[00:38] <shadaloo> Ben64: chrismatic what is the syntax to uninstall the
[00:38] <shadaloo> chrismatic: ok will give it a go
[00:39] <Wayward_Vagabond> Anybody know of a program I can use to split about 40 PDFs (one image per page) into individual images?
[00:39] <chrismatic> @Wayward_Vagabond pdftk
[00:40] <chrismatic> @Wayward_Vagabond pdftk has a "burst" command
[00:40] <pl1x> any way to get visual studio running on linux?
[00:40] <shadaloo> chrismatic: says command not found
[00:40] <Ben64> pl1x: doubtful
[00:41] <Wayward_Vagabond> chrismatic: Thanks, I'll look into that
[00:41] <chrismatic> @shadaloo did you cd into the directory that has your .run file?
[00:41] <shadaloo> I tried to ./nvidia-blahblah.run and it said denied (as root)
[00:41] <gshmu> hello, how to show U+1f440 etc....
[00:41] <shadaloo> chrismatic: yes of course
[00:41] <chrismatic> Hmm. Mind doing a paste.ubuntu.com with an ls, the run, and the error you're getting?
[00:41] <shadaloo> chrismatic: I am in the command line
[00:42] <pl1x> Ben64: hm any alternives?
[00:42] <Ben64> pl1x: theres tons
[00:43] <chrismatic> @shadaloo clbin
[00:44] <HappyNewYear13> pl1x, google says http://monodevelop.com/
[00:44] <chrismatic> @shadaloo cat stuff_to_paste | curl -F 'clbin=<-' https://clbin.com
[00:44] <chrismatic> @shadaloo (stuff_to_paste is a file with the stuff to paste; sorry for the bad name)
[00:45] <fingertips> HappyNewYear13, Is much more known about how /etc/hosts functions there? I am trying to figure out what happens when multiple numbers are specified for the same name.
[00:45] <shadaloo> chrismatic: how do I copy stuff?
[00:45] <shadaloo> :s
[00:46] <sissie> my netgear wireless card doesn't work with ubuntu studio
[00:46] <fingertips> Ubuntu has come to the "fork in the road"
[00:46] <sissie> newest version of ubuntu...just downloaded it
[00:47] <Ben64> shadaloo: ls >> pastefile; sudo ./nvidia-blah.run --uninstall >> pastefile; cat pastefile | curl -F 'clbin=<-' https://clbin.com
[00:47] <HappyNewYear13> fingertips, you mean chicken in the road?
[00:47] <sissie> any suggestions on cards that'll work out of the box?
[00:48] <fingertips> I have downloaded 10.04.4 server kids and plan on blocking google.
[00:48] <lickalott> gents, my nzbget recently stopped working.  i keep getting this error - /usr/local/bin/nzbget: error while loading shared libraries: libpar2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.  I've tried to update libpar2 (apt-get) but nothing has changed.
[00:48] <Ben64> fingertips: why? 10.04 server loses support in 5 months
[00:48] <lickalott> to be more precise, I would like assistance on updating/upgrading libpar
[00:48] <fingertips> Ben64, Looks like a last chance to fork it away from google.
[00:49] <Ben64> fingertips: that makes no sense
[00:49] <HappyNewYear13> fingertips, shy you want to block google?
[00:49] <gshmu> 👍  my computer can't show liks this "👍"
[00:49] <fingertips> Ben64, Why do you compute that it makes no sense?
[00:50] <Ben64> lickalott: pastebin "apt-cache policy libpar2-1 libpar2-1-dbg libpar2-dev nzbget"
[00:50] <Ben64> fingertips: because it makes no sense
[00:50] <HappyNewYear13> gshmu, do you see mine? 💋
[00:50] <HappyNewYear13> gshmu, it's a kiss
[00:50] <gshmu> HappyNewYear13: not see
[00:51] <fingertips> If you had one shot or one opportunity to sieze everything you ever wanted would you capture it or just let it slip?
[00:51] <gshmu> 01f48b
[00:51] <Ben64> gshmu: you need a font with support for the emoji characters
[00:51] <HappyNewYear13> i installed utopic from scratch and i can see them now
[00:51] <HappyNewYear13> i saw your hand gshmu
[00:51] <gshmu> apt-get install what ???
[00:51] <lickalott> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/4FBqgjuZ
[00:51] <fingertips> Ben64, Are you telling me to go SSD?
[00:51] <HappyNewYear13> apt-get install emojis-are-cool
[00:51] <Guest33402> Hello
[00:52] <gshmu> thanks
[00:52] <Ben64> fingertips: i'm asking you to make sense, or if you'd like, you can continue making no sense in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:52] <HappyNewYear13> gshmu, i was joking
[00:52] <Guest33402> Apparently, I can't get anyone to talk to me on the Deepin channel :/
[00:52] <Guest33402> I was just wondering if someone could a few questions
[00:52] <Ben64> Guest33402: only ubuntu is supported here, sorry
[00:52] <gshmu> HappyNewYear13: I don't which package
[00:52] <Guest33402> Darn...
[00:53] <albert> how do i connect to internet via my wireless adapter
[00:53] <HappyNewYear13> HappyNewYear13, i don't know either. i would tell it to you
[00:53] <Guest33402> Anyone know where I could talk to someone for answers then?
[00:53] <HappyNewYear13> gshmu, , i don't know either. i would tell it to you
[00:53] <Ben64> Guest33402: probably the deepin channel
[00:53] <Guest33402> That's what I've tried actually. But, there's only a bot in there, and no one else answers me...
[00:54] <gshmu> HappyNewYear13: thanks anyway
[00:54] <fingertips> Ben64, I have no problem making sense, but are you prepared to accept it?
[00:54] <HappyNewYear13> gshmu,  sudo apt-get install ttf-ancient-fonts
[00:54] <Ben64> Guest33402: if having an active support channel is something you'd like, maybe deepin isn't the distro for you
[00:54] <igoryonya> when I try to CONNECT on squid, I get the following error: URL http://94.100.180.228:2042/; The administrator may not allow this cache to make direct connections to origin servers. This only happens, when trying to CONNECT to ip addresses, when using domains, it works fine.
[00:54] <HappyNewYear13> gshmu, google said
[00:54] <k1l_> albert: see the zorin support, since you use zorin.
[00:54] <albert> k1l_, nobody there its the same as ubuntu
[00:55] <lickalott> Ben64, anything there stand out to you?
[00:55] <k1l_> albert: if you dont like their support dont use their os. its not the same as ubuntu, then it would be called ubuntu, right?
[00:55] <albert> k1l_, guess ill try ubuntu
[00:55] <Guest33402> Well, right now, I have Ubuntu on here. Just...I've had problems with staying with one distro. I've constantly switched between distros, and I'd like to find one that I will actually stick with...
[00:55] <Ben64> lickalott: looks normal, not sure why you're getting errors
[00:55] <el3> Hey. I cannot get my ethernet to work on lubuntu. When I do a ifconfig it only gets a mac adress, no ip. And on the router I see the mac address is connected.
[00:55] <gshmu> HappyNewYear13: thanks very much, I'm did not find it
[00:55] <reisio> Guest33402: problems?
[00:56] <chrismatic> @el3 please paste the output of ifconfig on paste.ubuntu.com so we can look at it
[00:56] <Ben64> lickalott: wait, did you install nzbget in a different way
[00:57] <lickalott> don't think so.  its been working fine.  i think this issue started with my last update/upgrade
[00:57] <Guest33402> I started with ubuntu, but finding other distros broadened my horizions a lil. But now, since I've tried these other ones, I don't know which one to stick with...
[00:57] <Rexter> albert, you're not even in the Zorin channel.
[00:57] <shadaloo> chrismatic:
[00:57] <albert> Rexter, whats chennel name again ?
[00:57] <shadaloo> now I cannot even login to the desktop to see an error message
[00:57] <Rexter> #ZorinOS
[00:58] <lickalott> Guest33402, ubuntu and fedora are my favs (if that's worth anything)
[00:58] <k1l_> 12
[00:58] <shadaloo> and when I try a guest session the system reloads the login screen
[00:58] <Guest33402> I've tried Fedora myself, and I didn't really come to like it
[00:58] <shadaloo> should I reinstall X?
[00:58] <Ben64> shadaloo: define "it"
[00:58] <HappyNewYear13> gshmu, you must enable universe in the sources
[00:58] <Guest33402> I've come to like Ubuntu, Mint, Ubuntu GNOME, Elementary OS, and Deepin.
[00:59] <gshmu> HappyNewYear13: thanks, it's ok
[00:59] <Guest33402> But, as I said, I can't decide between them now...
[00:59] <shadaloo> Ben64: I did not say it
[00:59] <Ben64> Guest33402: thats great, but not on topic here. pick what you like
[00:59] <shadaloo> what do you mean
[00:59] <lickalott> Ben64, just noticed a new stable version as of the 9th of Nov.  i'll try and install that one and report back.
[00:59] <Ben64> shadaloo: i read incorrectly, sorry. did you uninstall nvidia?
[00:59] <shadaloo> Ben64: yes
[00:59] <Ben64> lickalott: how are you installing? you should not be doing so manually
[00:59] <lickalott> repos?
[01:00] <lickalott> ^ was a question
[01:00] <Ben64> lickalott: i see that nzbget is in /usr/local/bin .... it shouldn't be
[01:00] <Ben64> shadaloo: sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)
[01:00] <Ben64> shadaloo: what nvidia card do you have?
[01:01] <lickalott> I was just about to follow this - http://nzbget.net/Installation_on_Linux_(mipsel)
[01:01] <Ben64> lickalott: 404, and you should not be doing anything other than "sudo apt-get install nzbget"
[01:01] <HappyNewYear13> when i see the info of my wireless it says Speed 18Mb/s. but different computer connected to same network always said 54Mb/s. is it a driver problem?
[01:01] <lickalott> roger
[01:01] <shadaloo> Ben64: now that you mention it
[01:01] <shadaloo> when I apt-get autoremove'd
[01:02] <shadaloo> it said something missing dkms
[01:02] <shadaloo> gnome-dkms
[01:02] <Ben64> shadaloo: thats fine, run that really long command above though :) and tell me your nvidia card
[01:02] <shadaloo> Ben64: 9300-GE
[01:02] <shadaloo> I believe
[01:02] <HappyNewYear13> when i see the info in the properties of my wireless it says Speed 18Mb/s. but different computer connected to same modem always said 54Mb/s. is it a driver problem?
[01:02] <lickalott> removing and re-installing Ben64.  Thanks!!
[01:03] <Ben64> shadaloo: what is the output of "lspci | grep VGA"
[01:04] <shadaloo> ok Ben64
[01:04] <shadaloo> 32 MBs
[01:04] <Ben64> huh?
[01:05] <shadaloo> Ben64:
[01:05] <shadaloo> yes, a 9300 GE and also a 8200
[01:05] <shadaloo> the 9300 is a card
[01:05] <shadaloo> not sure about the 8200
[01:05] <shadaloo> Ben64: installing now
[01:06] <shadaloo> Ben64: done
[01:06] <shadaloo> Ben64: reboot?
[01:06] <Ben64> no
[01:07] <Ben64> is it a laptop?
[01:08] <shadaloo> Ben64: desktop
[01:08] <shadaloo> HP
[01:09] <Ben64> you might want to check whats up with having two cards, maybe you need to disable the onboard one
[01:09] <shadaloo> :s
[01:09] <Ben64> but this command will install nvidia drivers ---   "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331"
[01:09] <shadaloo> Ben64: ok
[01:09] <shadaloo> Ben64: thanks
[01:10] <newbieubuntu> sup,
[01:10] <shadaloo> Ben64: how do you know that I need 331? if you do not mind me asking
[01:10] <Ben64> well you have ubuntu 14.04, and 331 is the latest in 14.04, and supports both the 8200 and the 9300
[01:10] <shadaloo> ok great
[01:10] <shadaloo> that's what I figured
[01:11] <newbieubuntu> anyone can help me with dovecot/postfix/thunderbird for lan-only email system ? I'm been looking and following guides for 2 weeks all over the net with no solutions.
[01:11] <chrismat_> @shadaloo it's a version number
[01:11] <shadaloo> chrismat_: ah
[01:11] <shadaloo> riiight
[01:11] <chrismat_> I've tried nvidia-latest once... didn't turn out too well, but it was certainly there.
[01:12] <shadaloo> well I was running on 331.67
[01:12] <shadaloo> but obviously ubuntu did not like nvidia's .run
[01:12] <shadaloo> implementation
[01:12] <HappyNewYear13> fingertips are u a troll?
[01:12] <HappyNewYear13> i need to knw
[01:13] <HappyNewYear13> thins new keyboard is so flat
[01:15] <newbieubuntu> anyone halp pls ?
[01:16] <miner> ciao
[01:17] <Bashing-om> !ask | newbieubuntu
[01:17] <shadaloo> Ben64: uh oh
[01:17] <Ben64> shadaloo: ?
[01:17] <shadaloo> sub-process returned an error code
[01:18] <shadaloo> Ben64: maybe I can reboot now and use a browser?
[01:18] <newbieubuntu> thanks ubottu
[01:18] <Ben64> shadaloo: give more of the error
[01:18] <shadaloo> Ben64: it's very long
[01:18] <shadaloo> and scary looking
[01:18] <shadaloo> i cannot copy text
[01:18] <Ben64> gotta have more of the error
[01:19] <shadaloo> I'm going to try to reboot
[01:19] <shadaloo> brb
[01:31] <shadaloo> Ben64: system is deadx0r
[01:32] <shadaloo> Ben64: when I select Ubuntu from grub the next thing I see is a blinking cursor
[01:32] <shadaloo> but nothing happens
[01:32] <shadaloo> i'm booted from a usb thumbdrive
[01:32] <shadaloo> now I could probably chroot into the system and at least pastebin you stuff
[01:34] <chech> anybody know a programming app that has an S in front?, been looking all day
[01:36] <reisio> chech: "app"?
[01:36] <chech> yes ubuntu app
[01:36] <reisio> chech: what does it do?
[01:36] <chech> i think its for html and css
[01:37] <shadaloo> Ben64: ?
[01:38] <def_jam> test
[01:38] <shadaloo> test
[01:38] <def_jam> hey is tehre anyone around that can help with a ban
[01:39] <shadaloo> Ben64: :(
[01:40] <def_jam> thanks
[01:43] <k1l_> def_jam: talk to the operators of the channel you are banned in
[01:43] <def_jam> i did
[01:43] <def_jam> i tried to pspeak to you k1l
[01:44] <def_jam> i sent you a private
[01:44] <def_jam> a query
[01:44] <k1l_> nope
[01:44] <def_jam> when i type /query kil it says no such nick/channel
[01:45] <def_jam> k1l
[01:45] <m0h4wk> Hello?
[01:45] <m0h4wk> I need some help, would anyone be willing to help?
[01:45] <k1l_> if its about the #ubuntu channel you can talk to the ops in #ubuntu-ops , def_jam
[01:45] <k1l_> m0h4wk: if you give more details people can see if they can help
[01:45] <m0h4wk> Well I just installed Ubuntu
[01:45] <def_jam> ah great thanks
[01:45] <m0h4wk> And I have some questions
[01:46] <shadaloo> Ben64: earth to Ben
[01:48] <imastupidguest> Look, I know this isn't exactly on topic but would somoene pm me if they can help? 'm looking for someone with familiarity in things like a SWOT analysis. I'm wondering if there is an existing method (like SWAT) that incorporates a perspective element?
[01:48] <imastupidguest> Someone with familiarity of business diagrams/diagramming
[01:48] <shadaloo> could I possibly chroot into a partition to use apt-get ?
[01:48] <k1l_> !ot | imastupidguest
[01:48] <imastupidguest> k1l_: I said that
[01:49] <seronis> and thus..  'dont go offtopic'
[01:49] <seronis> thats your answer
[01:49] <imastupidguest> Am I now wrong for asking someone to pm me in the only place I can think to find a gathering of people in which someone may hold the knowledge?
[01:49] <imastupidguest> I'm asking a social question to you k1l_
[01:49] <shadaloo> why would you want them to PM you
[01:50] <imastupidguest> I'm aking you a personal, moral question, completely unrelated to forum moderation, rules, or guidelines
[01:50] <k1l_> imastupidguest: stop spoiling the technical support channel, we have a seperate channel for chitchat and other offtopic.
[01:50] <imastupidguest> you don't have to answer
[01:50] <imastupidguest> what would you do?
[01:51] <m0h4wk> So
[01:51] <m0h4wk> I just installed ubuntu
[01:51] <m0h4wk> And I have some questions
[01:51] <m0h4wk> I´m making the transition from Windows
[01:51] <seronis> !ask | m0h4wk
[01:52] <d1egoaz> Hello, How can I modify unity global menu to always show menu options? Currently I have to put the mouse on the menu? tks
[01:52] <m0h4wk> Is there a similar program to Task Manager in ubuntu?
[01:52] <k1l_> m0h4wk: yes, system monitor
[01:53] <m0h4wk> Where can I find it?
[01:53] <shadaloo> m0h4wk: hit the windows key
[01:53] <seronis> m0h4wk,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/25785/can-auto-hide-for-the-application-menu-be-turned-off-in-unity
[01:53] <shadaloo> and type 'system
[01:53] <shadaloo> '
[01:53] <k1l_> m0h4wk: press the windows key (which opens the dash) then type system monitor
[01:54] <m0h4wk> Pressing the Windows key doesn´t do anything
[01:54] <m0h4wk> Would that have anything to do with my keyboard configuration?
[01:54] <k1l_> m0h4wk: what ubuntu are you on?
[01:54] <m0h4wk> The latest desktop build
[01:54] <shadaloo> m0h4wk: click the top icon on the left
[01:54] <shadaloo> the ubuntu symbol
[01:55] <m0h4wk> Clicked it
[01:55] <shadaloo> grats
[01:56] <m0h4wk> I found it
[01:56] <m0h4wk> I have another question
[01:57] <m0h4wk> I installed Ubuntu on a partition, roughly 150 gigabytes
[01:57] <m0h4wk> Would this be sufficient enough for me to play around with?
[01:57] <Ben64> yep
[01:57] <k1l_> easy, m0h4wk
[01:58] <m0h4wk> And another thing, I set Ubuntu on the top of my preferences list when booting up my laptop
[01:58] <m0h4wk> But it gives me the option of choosing between what OS is selected beforehand
[01:58] <m0h4wk> Is there any way to simplify this process and introduce a dual boot system>
[02:00] <k1l_> m0h4wk: can you rephrase or explain more?
[02:01] <m0h4wk> Is there any way to make my laptop ask me what OS I want to boot with?
[02:01] <seronis> grub does this..  whats the issue?
[02:01] <area51pilot> ASUS TP500L system with ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad not working Ubuntu 14.04 ... anyone else with this issue? I can only get it to work by editing the grub and having it ID as a basic mouse device
[02:01] <m0h4wk> What is grub?
[02:02] <seronis> that text menu you see when you reboot your computer
[02:02] <area51pilot> a little worm in the ground  :P
[02:02] <shadaloo> Ben64: ?
[02:02] <m0h4wk> area51pilot: <3
[02:02] <area51pilot> grub2 is your boot menu
[02:02] <Ben64> shadaloo: ?
[02:02] <shadaloo> Ben64: hey
[02:02] <shadaloo> the system is dead
[02:02] <area51pilot> if you side load with Windows it displays your OS options to choose as well as recovery options
[02:02] <seronis> it sits there for 6 seconds before it boots into your default os.. but you can use the arrow keys to select  memtext or your other os instead of going into ubuntu
[02:03] <seronis> memtest*
[02:03] <shadaloo> Ben64: when I try to boot I just a flashing _
[02:03] <m0h4wk> Also, the programs that I installed on my Windows 8.1 partition. Could I access them and launch them on Linux with no changes?
[02:03] <m0h4wk> Or do I have to reinstall them in some way?
[02:03] <shadaloo> m0h4wk: you can use 'wine' to run Windows programs
[02:03] <seronis> are they linux programs?  and if so why are they installed on the windows partition ?
[02:03] <Ben64> shadaloo: remember when i said i needed the error message and you ignored that and rebooted?
[02:03] <m0h4wk> They are Windows programs, I just want to be able to run them in Linux
[02:03] <k1l_> m0h4wk: need to reinstall in most cases. better see if there are linux versions.
[02:04] <shadaloo> Ben64: yes
[02:04] <Ben64> shadaloo: yeah, i needed the error message
[02:04] <shadaloo> Ben64: I was in the command line
[02:04] <Ben64> shadaloo: i know
[02:04] <shadaloo> Ben64: it was like 4 lines long
[02:04] <m0h4wk> The reason I picked Ubuntu as my secondary OS is because I heard it was lighter and must therefore be better for gaming, right?
[02:04] <shadaloo> m0h4wk: depends on the game
[02:04] <m0h4wk> So I´ll have to reinstall all my games for them to work on Ubuntu right?
[02:05] <SchrodingersScat> !paste | shadaloo
[02:05] <shadaloo> Ben64: do you have any suggestions?
[02:05] <m0h4wk> I mainly play League of Legends, CS:GO, Trackmania, and some other Source Engine games.
[02:05] <seronis> m0h4wk,  programs must match the operating system they are designed for, yes
[02:05] <shadaloo> Ben64: I tried to chroot into the partition but I ended up installing the drivers for the LiveUSB (worthless)
[02:05] <k1l_> m0h4wk: yes, reinstall
[02:05] <Ben64> shadaloo: go back in time and give me the error instead of ignoring the request
[02:06] <m0h4wk> Is there any way to increase my current Linux partition size?
[02:06] <Guest52481> use gparted
[02:06] <shadaloo> Ben64: isn't there a way to recover the system from my Live session?
[02:06] <eblip> hi this is a test
[02:08] <m0h4wk> Are there any guides I could read as an introduction to Ubuntu?
[02:08] <k1l_> m0h4wk: yes, you can boot a live-usb and then use gparted to manage the partitions. but be aware to have backups if there is important data
[02:08] <m0h4wk> And how I can optimize it for my hardware?
[02:08] <Bashing-om> !manual m0h4wk
[02:09] <shadaloo> Ben64: ?
[02:09] <m0h4wk> !manual
[02:09] <eb0t> this is a test
[02:09] <shadaloo> Ben64: so you're just going to leave me hanging with a hosed system?
[02:09] <shadaloo> great advice
[02:09] <m0h4wk> How can I use my Razer products with Ubuntu?
[02:09] <m0h4wk> Is there a version of Razer Synapse out there for Ubuntu?
[02:10] <shadaloo> was trying to install nvidia-331 drivers and the process errored
[02:11] <shadaloo> tried to reboot and the system is dead - boots to a flashing _
[02:11] <LinStatSDR> Sounds like a boot order issue
[02:11] <LinStatSDR> Like a flash drive still plugged in
[02:11] <shadaloo> LinStatSDR: can you help me resolve it?
[02:12] <shadaloo> LinStatSDR: well
[02:12] <shadaloo> i'll try removing it
[02:12] <shadaloo> doubt that is it though
[02:12] <LinStatSDR> may have to change the boot order back
[02:12] <LinStatSDR> or change it back to whatever it was w/e
[02:16] <LinStatSDR> I'm guessing shadaloo forgot to unplug the flash drive
[02:16] <LinStatSDR> Since he quit
[02:17] <m0h4wk> Does anyone know the program called F.lux?
[02:18] <k1l_> m0h4wk: try redshift
[02:18] <m0h4wk> Is it similar to f.lux?
[02:18] <k1l_> !info redshift
[02:19] <k1l_> yes, quite the same and ubuntu ships that already
[02:19] <m0h4wk> Thanks so much!!!
[02:19] <eblip> thanks k1l for earlier i found the ops and they sorted it out
[02:21] <m0h4wk> How do I install redshift?
[02:21] <shadaloo> trying to fix my completely broken ubuntu install
[02:21] <shadaloo> when i boot I get a flashing _
[02:22] <shadaloo> when I try to boot into recovery
[02:22] <k1l_> m0h4wk: either use the ubuntu software center or use the terminal: "sudo apt-get install redshift"
[02:22] <shadaloo> I get 'friendly-recover--stopped' at 7.xxx
[02:22] <shadaloo> is there anything I can do
[02:22] <shadaloo> to fix my install?
[02:22] <m0h4wk> Is that how I will install all programs on Ubuntu?
[02:23] <eblip> hey shadaloo i think there is a way of checking if the software your are tryoing to install is corrupt using a hash
[02:23] <eblip> maybe the software was corrupted for your install ..
[02:23] <shadaloo> eblip it was fine
[02:23] <eblip> ah ok
[02:23] <m0h4wk> Also, how do I make the bottom bar go down? It used to go down automatically and now it doesn.
[02:23] <shadaloo> eblip: that's not the issue
[02:23] <shadaloo> thanks though
[02:23] <shadaloo> someone was tyring to help me install nvidia drivers correctly
[02:23] <shadaloo> and it failed
[02:23] <shadaloo> and now they left me hanging
[02:23] <shadaloo> with a broken system
[02:24] <eblip> oh yes i tried it the nvidia a while back and i ev entually got it working but it was a botch job
[02:24] <k1l_> m0h4wk: yes. first you look if ubuntu ships that program already as a package. that is already made working with ubuntu.
[02:24] <m0h4wk> How do I launch redshift?
[02:25] <LinStatSDR> So shadaloo, status update on the flash drive removal?
[02:25] <shadaloo> LinStatSDR: no that wasn't it mate
[02:25] <shadaloo> thx tho
[02:25] <shadaloo> I was using the boot menu to select the drive in question
[02:25] <shadaloo> the system is busted
[02:25] <shadaloo> never seen such a mess
[02:25] <shadaloo> can't even boot to a command line
[02:25] <shadaloo> doesn't even get through the kernel
[02:25] <LinStatSDR> So you can't boot anything?
[02:26] <LinStatSDR> No dvd / cd
[02:26] <LinStatSDR> no flash drive
[02:26] <LinStatSDR> just a _
[02:26] <shadaloo> I am in a flash drive now
[02:26] <eblip> why not try and chroot and undo what you have done
[02:26] <eblip> and redo the nvidia install again
[02:26] <shadaloo> eblip: do you have a guide?
[02:26] <shadaloo> that's the first thing I tried
[02:26] <shadaloo> but when I chroot I was still in the liveUSB
[02:27] <eblip> ah ok...i used to have problems chrooting but it was becuase i hadnt loaded all the filesystem necessary
[02:27] <eblip> mounted rather
[02:27] <m0h4wk> I just realized I have something called Kubuntu installed
[02:27] <shadaloo> eblip: any advice?
[02:27] <eblip> yes google chroot into ubuntu
[02:27] <m0h4wk> What is it and should I stick with it instead of Ubuntu?
[02:27] <eblip> thats how i found all the partitions that i required to mount
[02:27] <eblip> and from tehre bam.. i was in
[02:28] <eblip> once i chrooted
[02:29] <m0h4wk> kiL_: what is Kubuntu?
[02:29] <k1l_> m0h4wk: that is another desktop enviroment. if you like that you can use that
[02:29] <m0h4wk> How do I switch to Ubuntu desktop?
[02:29] <k1l_> m0h4wk: http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ  that are the big desktops ubuntu offers
[02:29] <seronis> Kubuntu just defaults to installing KDE desktop mnager instead of unity
[02:30] <seronis> i use Xubuntu  (XFCE desktop environment)
[02:30] <m0h4wk> So it´s just a theme basically?
[02:30] <seronis> more than that
[02:30] <m0h4wk> Is Unity reccomended for beginners?
[02:31] <seronis> im VERY biased.. so to me unity is never recommended.
[02:31] <m0h4wk> How do I switch to Unity?
[02:31] <k1l_> m0h4wk: unity is the standard ubuntu desktop. you can install the ones you see on the pictures with installing the package "ubuntu-desktop" or "kubuntu-desktop". then choose the desktop in the menu on the login screen
[02:32] <Ben64> m0h4wk: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; then choose unity when you're logging in
[02:32] <m0h4wk> To save space how can I uninstall Kubuntu?
[02:33] <k1l_> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <Ben64> k1l_: that won't accomplish much, since that is a meta package
[02:34] <k1l_> yeah, so its kde package?
[02:34] <Ben64> this page used to work, but it is way outdated now http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[02:34] <m0h4wk> How can I make the bottom bar disappear when Iḿ not mousing over it?
[02:35] <shadaloo> trying to chroot into the partition of my broken ubuntu system
[02:35] <shadaloo> but i just stay in the liveUSB ubuntu@ubuntu
[02:35] <bananapie> Hi, I am trying to run Chromium-browser without a window manager so I ran 'startx chromium-browser' from the console, and chromium starts. But for some reason, I also get a window telling me to upgrade packages and that language support is incomplete. How to I prevent startx from calling anything other than what I specified?
[02:35] <shadaloo> is it that broken
[02:35] <shadaloo> that I cannot even chroot into it?
[02:35] <k1l_> m0h4wk: if you change to unity dont mind the bar now.
[02:35] <seronis> http://superuser.com/questions/30112/kubuntu-to-ubuntu     reading there says that running  'autoremove' after removing the meta package will still clean it up
[02:35] <area51pilot> ASUS TP500L system with ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad not working Ubuntu 14.04.  The only way to get it to work was by editing thet full touchpad functionality?e grub to have it load as a basic mouse. Any ideas how to g
[02:35] <seronis> @ m0h4wk  Ben64
[02:36] <m0h4wk> Should I remove Kubuntu while in Kubuntu or....?
[02:37] <Ben64> shadaloo: try booting to text mode, by appending 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode
[02:37] <shadaloo> Ben64: alright
[02:37] <seronis> m0h4wk,  i would  _guess_ no.  wait till you boot into unity
[02:38] <jmeps3> #carding
[02:38] <seronis> also that link i posted has a huge  apt-get remove command line that lists all the packages used in kubuntu that are not used in ubuntu default
[02:38] <seronis> you can use it to ensure the extras are gone but id also read the package names first to see if there is something you want
[02:38] <m0h4wk> Should I bother creating an ethernet connection or just let it connect automatically?
[02:38] <m0h4wk> Would it improve speeds if I actually created a connection with the necessary details?
[02:39] <seronis> i dont think i've set up an ethernet connection manually for years.  doubt doing anything by hand would be better than the auto detection
[02:39] <HappyNewYear13> m0h4wk, let it connect automatically and put ipv6 on ignore
[02:39] <seronis> HappyNewYear13,  why put ipv6 on ignore ?
[02:39] <eblip> if you get your ethernet connection manually or by dhcp ...the speed is exactly the same
[02:40] <m0h4wk> How can I put the ipv6 on ignore?
[02:40] <HappyNewYear13> seronis, i don't use it and it improves performance
[02:40] <HappyNewYear13> m0h4wk, you go to the ethernet icon and chek its properties
[02:40] <seronis> basically DONT put it on ignore
[02:40] <m0h4wk> It says device not managed
[02:41] <HappyNewYear13> seronis, why not
[02:41] <seronis> you need a reason to disable part of theinternet.  not a reason to leave it accessible
[02:42] <pentagon_> Ashame this system didn't come with vlock.
[02:42] <HappyNewYear13> who uses ipv6? omg
[02:43] <eblip> if you put ipv6 on ignore..it only stops your system attempting to get an ipv6 address and info
[02:43] <eblip> its not really massive overhead.
[02:43] <m0h4wk> I just realized how light Kubuntu is, only 12gbś
[02:43] <m0h4wk> And right now I´m only using around 15% of my 8gb RAM
[02:43] <eblip> in fact it may be a good idea...as hackers could install an ipv6 dhcp server and get your machine issued with an ipv6 address if it is left on..i assume
[02:44] <m0h4wk> I feel as though this will be better for gaming, right?
[02:44] <m0h4wk> So, the command that I put into terminal to install Ubuntu desktop finished. Do I just restart now or how else can I get into it?
[02:44] <seronis> m0h4wk,  thats basically a non-issue.    "better for gaming" will still be whether you like games available on linux or not
[02:45] <Ben64> m0h4wk: log out, click the cog icon near your name when putting in your password and choose Unity
[02:45] <seronis> m0h4wk,  over half my steam library is available on linux and a decent portion of the rest i can run with Wine (though a few .Net programs require a lot of setup troubleshooting)
[02:45] <rww> HappyNewYear13: I do.
[02:46] <user__> hello
[02:46] <HappyNewYear13> rww, you have like a local network?
[02:46] <m0h4wk> Wow
[02:46] <m0h4wk> This is a lot cooler
[02:47] <rww> HappyNewYear13: No, my ISP (Comcast) offers globally-routable IPv6.
[02:47] <m0h4wk> It´s more native to Windows 8 with the sidebar feature.
[02:47] <Bashing-om> m0h4wk: :) Welcome to tomorrow .
[02:47] <m0h4wk> Can I set up multiple desktops on Ubuntu?
[02:48] <seronis> hdmi output  (for watching videos on my tv) works fine.  So most likely multi monitor support is good out of the box now too
[02:48] <m0h4wk> No multiple monitor support, I have only 1 monitor. But in Kubuntu you could cycle through several desktops.
[02:48] <m0h4wk> Or workstations as theyŕe called
[02:48] <seronis> oh.. unity doesnt use those by default ?
[02:49] <m0h4wk> Doesn´t look like it
[02:49] <m0h4wk> So how can I set it up so that it´s displayed in the top bar?
[02:49] <seronis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/260510/how-do-i-turn-on-workspaces-why-do-i-only-have-one-workspace
[02:49] <seronis> there is your multi workspaces
[02:50] <m0h4wk> I love you guys <3
[02:51] <m0h4wk> Ubuntu is amazing
[02:51] <HappyNewYear13> rww a bit old from 2012 "Turn off IPv6, say security experts" http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/turn-off-ipv6-say-security-experts-20120608-2002h.html
[02:51] <rww> that's hilarious
[02:51] <HappyNewYear13> seronis http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/turn-off-ipv6-say-security-experts-20120608-2002h.html
[02:52] <rypervenche> Wow...
[02:52] <seronis> anyone saying to turn off ipv6 is not an expert
[02:52] <HappyNewYear13> ipv6 is like ebola
[02:52] <shadaloo> Ben64: I put 'text' at the end of the linux line
[02:52] <seronis> using ipv4 is like using  electrical outlets without a ground connection
[02:52] <shadaloo> was that right?
[02:53] <rww> and with that set of amusing allegories,
[02:53] <rww> !ot
[02:54] <shadaloo> Ben64: the reason I don't just want to reinstall
[02:54] <shadaloo> is because I have ~100GB of data
[02:54] <shadaloo> I don't want to backup
[02:54] <shadaloo> but
[02:54] <shadaloo> obviously
[02:55] <shadaloo> it's too much work to recover
[02:55] <shadaloo> so
[02:55] <shadaloo> :ubuntufail:
[03:02] <m0h4wk> How do I install Wine?
[03:02] <lickalott> Ben64, you still around?
[03:03] <lickalott> m0h4wk, have you googled yet?
[03:03] <lickalott> https://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[03:03] <lickalott> ^^
[03:03] <Flannel> m0h4wk: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:04] <Juca> I got pinged!
[03:05] <MasterCeadeus27> Halp
[03:06] <MasterCeadeus27> So errrr i have an interesting problem
[03:06] <teward> MasterCeadeus27: how about you state what your problem is and then perhaps you can get some help
[03:06] <teward> because we aren't psychic :P
[03:06] <MasterCeadeus27> fair enough
[03:06] <Juca> I got pinged!
[03:06] <MasterCeadeus27> ]:(
[03:06] <m0h4wk> What Anti-virus do you guys propose I install on Ubuntu?
[03:06] <Ben64> lickalott: occasionally
[03:07] <MasterCeadeus27> Anyway, sooo. I used Ubuntu on my laptop via a flash drive. I was pleased. So I installed it, allotting 70 gb of space to it, with the goal of allowing dual-boot on my Windows 8 system
[03:07] <somsip> !av | m0h4wk
[03:07] <superlunary> ##linux
[03:07] <MasterCeadeus27> However, upon startup, I do not find anything that even alludes to the ability to boot it
[03:08] <MasterCeadeus27> so I'm left with the unique problem of obviously having two OSes installed and one not even showing up
[03:08] <lickalott> Ben64,  after re-install---> /usr/local/bin/nzbget
[03:08] <MasterCeadeus27> ;_;
[03:08] <Juca> I got pinged!
[03:08] <Ben64> shadaloo: should be "text" without quotes, should say something like "quiet nosplash text"
[03:09] <Ben64> Juca: could you not do that
[03:10] <karrot> hello, I got this command line to edit a .txt document the way I want to (sed 's/[[^]]*"//' Desktop/Untitled.txt), but I'd like to put the results of that edit into a new .txt file, how can I do so?
[03:10] <MasterCeadeus27> So... what could cause such a difficulty?
[03:10] <Ben64> lickalott: usually happens when you manually install stuff, i'm still betting thats the issue
[03:10] <karrot> I'm in the process of googling, but it's tough...
[03:10] <karrot> I guess I just need to put the output of a command into a .txt file... which should be relatively easy
[03:10] <Ben64> karrot: cat blah.txt | sed s/foo/bar/g >> newblah.txt
[03:11] <karrot> Ben64: thanks
[03:11] <lickalott> Ben64, does that path look better?
[03:11] <Ben64> lickalott: no
[03:11] <m0h4wk> How can I check if my video card has been detected by Ubuntu?
[03:11] <lickalott> i did a apt-get autoremove nzbget.  then apt-get install nzbget.
[03:12] <Ben64> lickalott: like i've said many times, you probably have a manually installed version that is causing you problems, apt-get doesn't even know about it
[03:12] <somsip> m0h4wk: sudo lshw -c Video
[03:13] <lickalott> so the newly installed is still getting trumped by the manually installed one?   What are you thoughts on getting rid of the other version?
[03:13] <Ben64> lickalott: depends how you installed it
[03:13] <m0h4wk> Do I need to install NVidia software as well? Because I remember using a program to optimize my gameplay
[03:14] <karrot> Ben64: that didn't quite work, can I give you a litte more specific information, and maybe you can help?
[03:14] <Ben64> karrot: ok
[03:14] <somsip> m0h4wk: if you install nvidia drivers, you will also install nvidia-settings which may be what you mean
[03:15] <karrot> Ben64: I have a .txt file called Untitled.txt, I'm trying to erase everything between [ ] in the file and the command "sed 's/[[^]]*"//'" does so, and outputs correctly, I would like to use that command on the .txt file and have it write a new .txt file with the sed command's output
[03:15] <karrot> Ben64: the output from the sed command by itself works, but it won't write that into a .txt file
[03:16] <Ben64> karrot: then end the command with >output.txt
[03:16] <m0h4wk> The program was called the NVidia Geforce Experience
[03:16] <MasterCeadeus27> pls halp
[03:16] <karrot> Ben64: I just tried that, and I tried it with >> output.txt for good meause, neither worked...
[03:17] <karrot> Ben64: I'm about to just copy and paste out of the terminal... but it's a 10,000 line .txt file :(
[03:17] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: Geforce Experience is only for windows
[03:17] <karrot> Ben64: wait
[03:17] <MasterCeadeus27> ;_______;
[03:17] <karrot> Ben64: sorry, the sed command did not work as I thought... I'm sorry
[03:18] <m0h4wk> Does anyone know how I can install League of Legends on Ubuntu?
[03:18] <Tobias[L]> MasterCeadeus27: windows 8 and ubuntu are ... different
[03:18] <MasterCeadeus27> ....well yes
[03:18] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: use playonlinux, it has an install script
[03:18] <MasterCeadeus27> I should hope so
[03:18] <Tobias[L]> MasterCeadeus27: Uefi disabled?
[03:18] <MasterCeadeus27> But it ran fine from the USB drive... Hmm
[03:18] <Tobias[L]> MasterCeadeus27: GPT disabled?
[03:18] <MasterCeadeus27> Well
[03:18] <MasterCeadeus27> Not ATM
[03:18] <MasterCeadeus27> It was during installation
[03:19] <Tobias[L]> MasterCeadeus27: Installed windows 7 instead?
[03:19] <MasterCeadeus27> No
[03:19] <MasterCeadeus27> I've no way to install windows 7
[03:19] <m0h4wk> I love how almost everything that you need to be done can be done through terminal
[03:19] <Tobias[L]> MasterCeadeus27: thats how i "fixed" it, the only thing working with UEFI alongside win8 was fedora
[03:19] <MasterCeadeus27> I mean... I suppose I could get a copy from my CST teacher
[03:19] <MasterCeadeus27> Hmmm
[03:19] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: apt-get? its fantastic
[03:19] <MasterCeadeus27> OK
[03:19] <MasterCeadeus27> So maybe I try turning UEFI off again
[03:20] <Tobias[L]> MasterCeadeus27: try fedora, after that switch to legacy boot
[03:20] <Tobias[L]> MasterCeadeus27: and if that doesnt bring the needed success wipe it all and smash win7 on it
[03:20] <MasterCeadeus27> wipe---wipe it--all???
[03:20] <m0h4wk> Tobias[L]: yeah it's awesome!!!
[03:21] <MasterCeadeus27> I have many important documents that simply cannot risk being "wiped"
[03:21] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: Chocolatey provides a similar function for windows
[03:21] <Tobias[L]> MasterCeadeus27: backup into the cloud and locally
[03:21] <m0h4wk> How can I optimize my Ubuntu to run efficiently?
[03:22] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: it already does but for some extra speed after booting try preload
[03:22] <m0h4wk> What is preload?
[03:22] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: it analyzes what you start often and loads those prgrams into ram(everything over 2 mb from these programs)
[03:23] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: use only if you have more than 4G
[03:23] <m0h4wk> I have 8gb's
[03:23] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: perfect, ssd?
[03:23] <Bashing-om> MasterCeadeus27: Win8 (UEFI) presens it's pwn set of problems, both to install and to boot . Await advisement here from those who have the experience to advise ( Not me, as I have no UEFI experience) .
[03:23] <m0h4wk> Regular HDD
[03:23] <m0h4wk> 1TB
[03:24] <Bashing-om> presents own set of
[03:24] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: try preload, everything else is as smooth as it gets unless you want to try your butt at gentoo
[03:24] <m0h4wk> How do I try preload through terminal?
[03:25] <Tobias[L]> apt-get install preload
[03:26] <m0h4wk> It says it couldn't open lock file....
[03:26] <m0h4wk> Unable to lovk the administration directory
[03:26] <m0h4wk> lock*
[03:26] <Tobias[L]> apt-get obviously needs superuser aka "sudo"
[03:26] <Tobias[L]> as in sudo apt-get install preload
[03:26] <m0h4wk> Ooooh
[03:26] <m0h4wk> Ok
[03:26] <m0h4wk> I'm new to this as you can tell
[03:27] <m0h4wk> I launched it, now what?
[03:28] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: it is a daemon that analyzes what you usually start as programs. it will use that knowledge to load program files (i.e firefox binary) into ram after you boot so when you load firefox most data already is loaded
[03:28] <m0h4wk> How do I set up a default graphics card for all programs to use?
[03:29] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: nvidia optimus?
[03:29] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: check the switch layer you installed (primus or bumblebee i think )for its settings or use the search machine you fancy
[03:30] <cfhowlett> #join #android
[03:30] <m0h4wk> I haven't installed either, do you reccomend either?
[03:31] <m0h4wk> And by that I mean which one do you reccommend?
[03:31] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: primus (check if its written right) is the newer implementation and works better afaik
[03:31] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: i have sli 650m laptop so lenovo decided to kill the switiching ability
[03:31] <m0h4wk> What is the command line I type into terminal?
[03:32] <m0h4wk> In order to install primus
[03:32] <Tobias[L]> sudo apt-get install primus (check before)
[03:33] <m0h4wk> So once it is installed, do I open it and set configurations or....?
[03:33] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
[03:33] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: use this, it will explain most things
[03:35] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: that guide is for debian so leave out anything including debian-specific things
[03:35] <somsip> !bumblebee | m0h4wk (this is for Ubuntu)
[03:36] <somsip> m0h4wk: or maybe it's not for ubuntu. I thought there was a wiki page linked ont here, but it's not
[03:36] <m0h4wk> How can I check the temperature settings of my components?
[03:36] <cfhowlett> !sensors | m0h4wk
[03:36] <lickalott> Ben64, got it.  finally found the tut I used to install.  It was from a git source.  removed and am installing via apt-get now.
[03:37] <lickalott> Ben64,  - Silentkiller:/usr/local/etc# which nzbget
[03:37] <lickalott> /usr/bin/nzbget
[03:37] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: altough we help with technical problems this isnt a personal installation assistant, ubuntu will likely require skills in googling, try to use them
[03:40] <m0h4wk> Tobias[L]: I apologize for being so tedious, I'm new to this so I'm just getting my feet wet. I do really appreciate all that you've done though! :)
[03:41] <stacyscene> Yo yo
[03:42] <jakesyl> how do i load a .fw file?
[03:42] <jakesyl> like how do i burn it to a disk
[03:43] <Tobias[L]> m0h4wk: atleast you didnt break your setup yet, nvidia and especially optimus tend to break visuals and allow only text mode (unrecoverable without knowledge)
[03:43] <cfhowlett> jakesyl, .fw is not a linux file = more information needed.
[03:43] <Tobias[L]> jakesyl: use dd if you want to only want the stream of data directly onto the dvd
[03:43] <jakesyl> okay, it says I'm missing this firmware file, and i need to insert it while im install ubuntu
[03:44] <Tobias[L]> as in dd if=/path/to/input/file of=/dev/dvddevicehere
[03:44] <jakesyl> here's my other question for loading firmware data do i dd it or just drag and drop i don't know if i'm supposed to 'burn'
[03:44] <jakesyl> So i should dd it on
[03:45] <Tobias[L]> jakesyl: likely something else went wrong
[03:46] <Tobias[L]> jakesyl: what exactly needs "firmware" ? i only remeber firmware needed for windows, linux can atleast run in textmode on nearly anything
[03:46] <jakesyl> non-free
[03:47] <Tobias[L]> jakesyl: graphics? raid controller?
[03:48] <jakesyl> networking
[03:48] <jakesyl> bx2 network controller
[03:48] <Tobias[L]> jakesyl: skip it and install it later from the additional drivers
[03:49] <ubuntu> hi
[03:49] <ubuntu> trying to download a vlc .deb
[03:49] <ubuntu> so i can install it on a computer that does not have networking
[03:49] <Guest64241> how can I do this?
[03:50] <Tobias[L]> dpkg -i /path/to/.deb
[03:50] <cfhowlett> Guest61439, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[03:50] <Tobias[L]> obviously needs sudo "admin" rifghts
[03:50] <Guest61439> ?
[03:51] <shadaloo> Tobias[L]: cfhowlett thanks going to install vlc and try that
[03:52] <cfhowlett> shadaloo, happy2help
[03:52] <shadaloo> !vlc
[03:52] <shadaloo> what is the easiest way to install vlc?
[03:52] <shadaloo> software center?
[03:52] <Tobias[L]> that or synaptic
[03:53] <shadaloo> k
[03:53] <shadaloo> and where will it install the .deb to?
[03:53] <shadaloo> or rather
[03:53] <shadaloo> where can I download the .deb ?
[03:54] <Tobias[L]> shadaloo: download it from the offical vlc website
[03:54] <Ben64> shadaloo: you should just hook up networking and apt-get it
[03:54] <shadaloo> Ben64: thx for your fantastic advice once again
[03:54] <Ben64> Tobias[L]'s suggestion is not recommended nor supported
[03:54] <Tobias[L]> shadaloo: else try on an hooked up pc apt-get download vlc
[03:55] <Ben64> shadaloo: you should have given me the error like i asked for instead of rebooting!
[03:55] <Tobias[L]> Ben64: i know never download stuff from somewhere else than the trusted reps (unlike our beloved *cough* windows but some dont know otherwise (i had to learn that the hard way with my friend calling em why filezilla.zip didnt install
[03:56] <shadaloo> ok
[03:56] <shadaloo> so I've installed VLC
[03:56] <shadaloo> via software center
[03:56] <shadaloo> where is the .deb stored?
[03:56] <shadaloo> so I can back it up
[03:56] <Tobias[L]> shadaloo: apt-get download vlc
[03:57] <shadaloo> Tobias[L]: I already have vlc installed
[03:57] <shadaloo> I just need to save it
[03:57] <Tobias[L]> shadaloo: it likely will be in apt-cache but make your life easier and change to where you want it and enter the download command
[03:57] <Tobias[L]> cd /home/user(you)/Folderwhereyouwant
[03:57] <shadaloo> Tobias[L]: where is apt-cache?
[03:58] <Ben64> shadaloo: you seem to have a problem following instructions. apt-get download will download the deb
[03:58] <shadaloo> Ben64: vlc is already the newest version.
[03:58] <shadaloo> i don't have a problem
[03:58] <Tobias[L]> shadaloo: its under /var/cache/apt/archives liekly
[03:58] <shadaloo> Tobias[L]: cheers
[03:59] <Ben64> "apt-get download vlc"
[03:59] <Ben64> will download the deb, into the current directory
[03:59] <Tobias[L]> shadaloo: but switching to the directory and apt-get download is safer
[03:59] <Ben64> seriously, this is not that difficult
[03:59] <Tobias[L]> Ben64: forgive the windows switchers
[04:00] <Tobias[L]> Ben64: i have stories to tell from this XD
[04:00] <kazdax> hello
[04:00] <kazdax> dear ones
[04:00] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: just ask
[04:00] <kazdax> i have installed apache webserver and when i do a 127 localhost
[04:01] <kazdax> it shows me a page
[04:01] <kazdax> but now i want to make it available to everyone
[04:01] <kazdax> and i am using a router
[04:01] <kazdax> so i have no idea how to set it up so people from the outside can access it
[04:01] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: stupid idea making a webserver avialiable publically without knowing what you do but it already should be accessible
[04:01] <Ben64> !port | kazdax
[04:02] <Tobias[L]> Ben64: thx
[04:02] <kandinski> Can anybody look at this? # apt-get update
[04:02] <kandinski> (snip...)
[04:02] <kandinski> Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main TranslationIndex
[04:02] <kandinski> Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en
[04:02] <kandinski> Ign http://agentrepo.drivesrvr.com serveragent/main Translation-en_US
[04:02] <kandinski> Ign http://agentrepo.drivesrvr.com serveragent/main Translation-en
[04:02] <unopaste> kandinski you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:02] <kazdax> so i set the port and then it should be avalable online ?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> kazdax, i wouldn't say stupid, but definitely unwise
[04:02] <Ben64> kazdax: read the link ubottu gave you
[04:02] <kazdax> well i wont be giving it out
[04:02] <kazdax> i just want to test it and if it does work out
[04:03] <Ben64> kazdax: and you should reconsider, even if you don't give it out, there are bots trolling the internet constantly for vulnerabilities
[04:03] <kazdax> id like to study more about firewalls and security procedures i can take
[04:03] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: what do you want to do? also making a dmz for your pc on your router with an webserver cries for your pc to be comrpomitted
[04:03] <kazdax> the ubuntu is runnong on vm..so all my other so called sensitive data is on my host machine
[04:03] <kandinski> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9052092/
[04:03] <kazdax> well there isnt really anything senstive about the data i have
[04:03] <kazdax> oh
[04:04] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: vms (likely Virtualbox) are an extra case, you routing trough windows?
[04:04] <kazdax> show how would you setup a webserve if you had to ?
[04:04] <kandinski> my apologies for the superpaste: I got the wrong buffer, and pasted the content instead of the pastebin url. I have this apt-get problem where update says it can't download an index file, but wget can. Any idea? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9052092/
[04:04] <kazdax> yes i am routing threw windows
[04:04] <kazdax> i am using vmware
[04:04] <Ben64> kandinski: try a different mirror
[04:05] <kazdax> where do i remember hearing that name
[04:05] <kandinski> Ben64: but why would apt-get fail with this mirror, while wget doesn't?
[04:05] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: you have to setup port forwarding from your router into windows into the vm which has to go all the way back out ... dream again, this is incredibly heavy. get yourself a raspberry pi
[04:05] <Ben64> kandinski: who knows man
[04:06] <kazdax> so wait ..my windows is also using port 80
[04:06] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: smooth recognition
[04:07] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: get yourself a small platine computer like the raspberry pi, if you want a corrupted device this way atleast make it an as msall threat as possible
[04:07] <kazdax> i could use a machine ..I dont have real use of ..its apentuim 4
[04:07] <kandinski> Ben64: yes, thanks XD
[04:07] <Tobias[L]> kazdax:  perfect, but still your router needs DMZ support and you likely need an Dynamic dns service
[04:07] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: you planning on setting up a forum?
[04:07] <kazdax> something like that
[04:08] <kazdax> a forum is a good idea
[04:08] <kazdax> i was thinking of setting up a bbs for fun
[04:08] <kazdax> I have an upload speed of 10 mbits and 50 download
[04:08] <kazdax> so i though it should not be much of a problem if i hosted site and allowed people to download its contents
[04:09] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: you need a web adress, a dynamic dns, your router is directly in the way and the security risks... why not take an online offer for a few bucks, that will be safer and more expertedly  managed
[04:09] <albert_> anyone know how to get quake 2 installed on ubuntu >?
[04:09] <somsip> kazdax: with respect, it's a bad idea. You don't have the knowledge you need right now, so you don't understand the implications of what you are doing. Find a hosted forum if you want one. Don't try to host it with the setup you've described
[04:09] <ramborocks> albert
[04:09] <Ben64> albert_: aren't you on zorin
[04:09] <ramborocks> albert for quake 2 you should try play on linux
[04:10] <Tobias[L]> somsip: yep was saying XD
[04:10] <albert_> no i just installed ubuntu
[04:10] <ramborocks> albert i used it today for warcraft 3
[04:10] <ramborocks> albert inside the software center look for 'play on linux'
[04:10] <Ben64> !appdb | albert_
[04:10] <somsip> Tobias[L]: I totally agree and was just thinking two voices saying the same might be enough to persuade him
[04:11] <kazdax> so the problem is not getting an isolated computer
[04:11] <kazdax> but its that it directly connects to my modem or router
[04:11] <kazdax> so its easy to just hack into the router and from there access the other computers
[04:12] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: the problem is you open your infrastructure to the world with not only bad configuration and your router in the way but also an fully-fledged web server with a million open security errors which others can use to compromit not only the server but your whole home netowrk
[04:12] <kazdax> thats bad and was studying malware analysis
[04:13] <somsip> kazdax: the problem being the routing you need to do, the other steps you need to take, and the setup of the forum etc seem to be beyond your current level of knowledge it a way that will be difficult to bridge by giving you step by step instructions
[04:13] <kazdax> people could easily pin a bad hack on me
[04:13] <kazdax> right ill do online hosting
[04:13] <kazdax> till i dont get good at it and know about the security risk
[04:14] <cfhowlett> kazdax, wouldn't you be happier/safer doing something like hosting an ubuntu mirror or .torrenting images?
[04:14] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: i have a root server running myself and despite my 400 letter password i get logins from china all day XD
[04:14] <kazdax> haha sweet
[04:14] <kazdax> good way to catch malware to analyise
[04:15] <kazdax> but still a bad idea since my other comptuers would be exposed
[04:15] <shadaloo> alright
[04:15] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: if you want to get good at running a web server get yourself that pc you dont need, setup ubuntu-server and attack with everything kali linux offers
[04:15] <shadaloo> i have vlc.deb
[04:15] <shadaloo> however
[04:15] <kazdax> cfhowlett, good idea man
[04:15] <shadaloo> i just installed nvidia-331
[04:15] <kazdax> never thought about that
[04:15] <shadaloo> and I plugged in my HDMI display
[04:15] <shadaloo> and it is not detected
[04:15] <kazdax> but still wont be a security risk for me to host mirrors or torrents ?
[04:15] <shadaloo> and when I try to boot with the display in HDMI, it start to boot
[04:15] <kazdax> ahh
[04:15] <shadaloo> and then the signal goes dead
[04:15] <Tobias[L]> cfhowlett: i would gladly host ubuntu images (1 gbit up and download speed) buuut restricted network, only Ip6 is open for acces from outwards still
[04:16] <Ben64> shadaloo: what are you doing now? how did you install nvidia? same computer? whats going on? you come here, ask a question and then bail for 15 minutes
[04:16] <kazdax> okay then i think ill get this old laptop i have
[04:16] <shadaloo> Ben64: I installed nvidia on my liveUSB
[04:16] <cfhowlett> kazdax, less of a risk than what you've proposed and a good learning experience
[04:16] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: do you only want to collect malware?
[04:16] <Ben64> shadaloo: pretty sure that will never work
[04:16] <shadaloo> Ben64: I'm just trying to get it so I can use my display
[04:16] <kazdax> yes Tobias
[04:16] <x_root> hello, i having a problem with the power-menu from ubuntu these days
[04:16] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: why?
[04:16] <kazdax> once i am done with studying older malware and from books
[04:17] <kazdax> i want to be able to catch them analyse the latest treat
[04:17] <x_root> if i try to poweroff from there doesn't open the menu to poweroff
[04:17] <kazdax> so i am keep up with my work :D
[04:17] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: unless you work at <av here> labs thats a really really stupid ideal
[04:17] <Tobias[L]> idea*
[04:17] <x_root> also, if i try to end session it doesn't open the gnome-session-quit
[04:17] <kazdax> well i will want to paste papers about new viruses
[04:17] <kazdax> why not ?
[04:17] <x_root> what should i do?
[04:17] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: and there is a muuuuuch easier way to do so
[04:17] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: get a spam mail address
[04:17] <kazdax> if i am good at doing it ..I should get a job at an av company
[04:17] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: and post it on any online huestbook you can find
[04:18] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: and then see the "you need to open this .pdf right now" flowing in
[04:18] <cfhowlett> kazdax, see "ethical hacking" subjects and guiades
[04:18] <cfhowlett> *guides*
[04:18] <kazdax> thats actually a really good idea
[04:18] <kazdax> but i dint know they still did that
[04:19] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: its more popular than ever before
[04:19] <kazdax> ill try that
[04:20] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: and if you going to analyze malware be sure: do it only on said pc and disconnect it from the internet and be sure: there is malware much more sophisticated thn usual malware, always wipe your system after analyzing it
[04:20] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: and even that sometimes doesnt help
[04:20] <kazdax> yea i was thinking perhaps install a linux and vm it with windows
[04:21] <kazdax> the windows one could act like a honeypot
[04:21] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: no you install the new container linux and only boot applications in thsoe strictly restrained environments
[04:21] <Tobias[L]> kazdax: its especially made for this
[04:22] <kazdax> what a new container linux ?
[04:22] <Ben64> none of this is on topic here, could you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue
[04:22] <cfhowlett> kazdax, OT channel or ##linux
[04:22] <cfhowlett> kazdax, or even ##windows
[04:23] <HelenaKitty> I currently have my system doing automatic backups per night. It backs up the entire home dir. I wanted to know that when Unity 8 comes out will the backups break the system or will the configuration files within the backups for Unity 7 be compatible with Unity 8?
[04:30] <uskerine> hi, in ubuntu 12.04, despite I try to modify /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, values are set back to default. I am working in a VPS, is that due to ubuntu or due to VPS?
[04:30] <SchrodingersScat> uskerine: and you used sudo or gksudo to start the editor of the file?
[04:30] <cfhowlett> uskerine, almost certainly the VPS but I wonder how they're able to override your settings ...
[04:30] <uskerine> I am working as root
[04:31] <cfhowlett> uskerine, !!!?? shouldn't be doing that ..
[04:33] <uskerine> actually, I didn't read the file right after the reboot. once /etc/hosts is modified and the VPS restarted, changes are there but VPS adds again its values.
[04:33] <uskerine> so host has two FQDNs
[04:34] <uskerine> and /etc/hostname is reset to given VPS value
[04:37] <SchrodingersScat> uskerine: you may be able to change the hostname using the control panel, but that's between you and them.
[04:38] <uskerine> I see
[04:38] <uskerine> so this has nothing to do with a specific configuration in ubuntu
[04:39] <cfhowlett> SchrodingersScat, but if she set her  values, how is the VPS provider overriding the configurations?
[04:39] <SchrodingersScat> cfhowlett: I'm just going off that it was reset somehow.
[04:40] <cfhowlett> SchrodingersScat, right, I got that.  I'm just wondering how ... she set it up as root user and the provider over-rode things ... don't seem right
[04:42] <wayafo> hey
[04:43] <HelenaKitty> I currently have my system doing automatic backups per night. It backs up the entire home dir. I wanted to know that when Unity 8 comes out will the backups break the system or will the configuration files within the backups for Unity 7 be compatible with Unity 8?
[04:45] <uskerine> if this is a virtualized environment I don't see why /etc/hosts can't be overriden at bootup
[04:45] <uskerine> anyway I will leave values "as is" and reconfigure postfix to use different values
[04:45] <devians> how can I force aptitude to give me a specific version of a package?
[04:46] <devians> sorry, apt-get
[04:46] <devians> If I run apt-get source nginx=1.6.2-1+precise0 it tells me that package is unavailable, even though its shown in apt-cache policy nginx
[04:46] <maum> hello
[04:46] <devians> i've tried pinning the version but apt-get seems to totally ignore that also.
[04:46] <maum> how to go to bios setup?
[04:48] <Tobias[L]> maum: specify what you want to do. are you trying to upgrade your bios in ubuntu?
[04:51] <maum> Tobias[L], I like to find virtualization option in bios. I installed vmplayer on ubuntu 14.04 and there wasn't virtualization option in bios. so I searched the issue for [Binary translation is incompatible with long mode on this platform] and some post says the host's bios need to be changed the option "virtualization" but I am not sure there is so...
[04:52] <maum> sorry 12.04
[04:52] <Tobias[L]> maum: you need to hammer your bios key (try F2, F8, F11 and F12) at bootip
[04:53] <cfhowlett> maum, do not hammer!  gently press ... at boot up
[04:53] <KEEm> Hej Feksclaus
[04:53] <Tobias[L]> there you need to find intel-v(x)-t or a responding option, be sure to know what you change before you senselessly edit stuff there
[04:53] <KEEm> Hello EriC^^ :)
[04:53] <maum> Tobias[L], I pressed f2 key or f8 or f10 when booting ubuntu but not working
[04:53] <EriC^^> hello KEEm :)
[04:53] <Tobias[L]> maum: not the ubuntu boot sequence, your pc booting up
[04:53] <EriC^^> how you doin?
[04:54] <KEEm> EriC^^: deeper search got better resaults
[04:54] <cfhowlett> maum, get out your manual.  read.  find "system settings" and it will tell you what exact key
[04:54] <Tobias[L]> maum: bios is right after the pc has his on button pressed
[04:54] <EriC^^> KEEm: cool
[04:54] <KEEm> EriC^^: it found 2811 files last time i checked
[04:55] <maum> Tobias[L], my pc is on mac and i installed parallels to use ubuntu 12.04 and installed vmplayer on ubuntu 12.04
[04:55] <Tobias[L]> maum: then dont ask in #ubuntu
[04:56] <devians> hmmm. to reiterate, is there any way to force apt-get source to download an older version?
[04:56] <havoc_hive> hello all =) very new here...
[04:57] <Tobias[L]> maum: this is a mac related issue and covers only macs EFI settings, and since i have the nervous thing that i throw any mac in my hand right out of the window i dont know much about this platform
[04:57] <cfhowlett> !mac | maum
[04:58] <EriC^^> KEEm: i see
[04:58] <EriC^^> devians: you can use apt-get install <package>=<version>
[04:58] <devians> EriC^^ doesn't work
[04:58] <devians> EriC^^ Ignore unavailable version '1.6.2-1+precise0' of package 'nginx'
[04:58] <Tobias[L]> cfhowlett: is there seriously for any pc related topic an entry?
[04:59] <EriC^^> devians: are you on trusty
[04:59] <Tobias[L]> !docker | Tobias[L]
[04:59] <devians> on precise
[04:59] <Tobias[L]> broke it :D
[04:59] <EriC^^> !info nginx precise
[04:59] <Tobias[L]> XD
[05:00] <devians> EriC^^ sorry, on precise. theres a version one above the specified one, 1.6.2-4+precise0 and its a higher priority and hence the older package is locked out
[05:00] <devians> I'm using a ppa to get a non-ancient version
[05:00] <EriC^^> devians: i think it's cause you have a ppa
[05:00] <EriC^^> i see
[05:00] <devians> EriC^^ https://gist.github.com/jhogendorn/d31caf8ec1c05da1a923
[05:01] <nathaneltitane> hey there :)
[05:01] <devians> EriC^^ just updated the gist
[05:02] <nathaneltitane> question: how do i silence a package config using debconf - specifically, i'd like to escape all questions asked for ddclient since i cat a config after install
[05:02] <EriC^^> devians: try sudo apt-get install nginx=1.6.2-4
[05:03] <devians> EriC^^ uh, why? thats not what I'm trying to do.
[05:03] <devians> EriC^^ I'm trying to download the sources for a specific version of nginx.
[05:03] <EriC^^> devians: sorry, sudo apt-get install nginx=1.6.2-1
[05:05] <devians> EriC^^ E: Version '1.6.2-1' for 'nginx' was not found
[05:05] <EriC^^> ok
[05:05] <nathaneltitane> anyone?
[05:06] <devians> EriC^^ any ideas? apt just flat out seems to refuse to cooperate if what you want is not the latest version
[05:07] <Tobias[L]> nathaneltitane: no idea what you want but if you want to stop updates use apt-mark hold *name
[05:07] <EriC^^> devians: seems it will downgrade if it's one of the apt sources, but with ppa's you can only install the latest, there is a fix though but it's kind of ugly
[05:07] <EriC^^> http://askubuntu.com/questions/50821/downgrade-ppa-packages-to-versions-available-at-a-previous-point-in-time
[05:08] <nathaneltitane> Tobias[L]:
[05:08] <EriC^^> devians: i'm curious if you add the ppa as source in /etc/apt/sources.list what would happen
[05:08] <nathaneltitane> Tobias[L]: nope.. not that - during install, I,d like for ddclient not to prompt me (silent install)
[05:08] <EriC^^> not sure that would even work
[05:08] <devians> the ppa is in my sources list, one sec
[05:09] <EriC^^> yeah it's in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[05:09] <EriC^^> maybe it's the same as having it in sources.list
[05:09] <devians> EriC^^ https://gist.github.com/jhogendorn/d31caf8ec1c05da1a923#file-source-list
[05:10] <sjm> in sources.list and in a file in sources.list.d directory is the same
[05:10] <Tobias[L]> nathaneltitane: is it upgradeable with apt? anything you push manually will always ask you .. because it is safer. if you really wanna say "fuck it i dont care if it breaks" there should be the -y option (or -yes / --yes) to always take new configs (and in conclusion -n/-no/--no) for taking the old one
[05:10] <EriC^^> i see
[05:11] <nathaneltitane> yes, it install through the apt repos
[05:11] <nathaneltitane> it installs* apt-get install ddclient
[05:11] <fedora_newb> I am running ubuntu 14.04 through virtualbox and it is running slow
[05:11] <Tobias[L]> apt-get -y install * should ignore any request and use whatever is newer
[05:12] <Tobias[L]> fedora_newb: thats not a problem thats a feature
[05:12] <fedora_newb> Not sure what else I can do, made sure the 3d was enabled, plenty of cpu/ram
[05:12] <fedora_newb> Any ideas on how to fix?
[05:12] <Tobias[L]> fedora_newb: is the virtualisation enabled?
[05:12] <Tobias[L]> fedora_newb: in your bios settings
[05:12] <nathaneltitane> Tobias[L]: that's fine... i'm talking about the ddclient config itself, ddclient itself prompts for setup info while installing... i'd like to silence that
[05:12] <fedora_newb> Ah, need to check, thanks Tobias
[05:13] <Tobias[L]> nathaneltitane: isnt -y doing that too?
[05:13] <nathaneltitane> no
[05:13] <Tobias[L]> nathaneltitane: well i remeber it always prompting me aswell but i rather grit my teeth together and do it since sometimes it can break everythign
[05:13] <devians> EriC^^ stumped also I take it?
[05:14] <Oggie7797> #targa-lp
[05:14] <nathaneltitane> well i have a config that is already preset and that i concatenate into /etc/....
[05:14] <EriC^^> devians: i was thinking you could maybe add a ppa for an older version of ubuntu that had that package as the latest
[05:14] <EriC^^> devians: it's all a mess though
[05:15] <EriC^^> why do you need an older version?
[05:15] <devians> EriC^^ Im frankly stunned that apt is so... opinionated.
[05:15] <devians> whats the point of a source download command if you cant pick a version.
[05:15] <EriC^^> devians: i think it's to do with the ppa's themselves
[05:15] <Tobias[L]> nathaneltitane: write a script that presses "n" and enter the whole time XD
[05:15] <EriC^^> devians: apt allows older versions from repositories, and it's a frontend for dpkg
[05:15] <Tobias[L]> nathaneltitane: but sorry i dont have a fix for that
[05:16] <EriC^^> devians: so i if it was apt not playing ball it could be fixed with dpkg i guess?
[05:16] <devians> EriC^^ the point is that I have an automated system that pulls down a specific version of the nginx package, adds modules and repackages it. and apt source is killing that because I can't reliably lock down the version I start with.
[05:16] <EriC^^> not sure
[05:16] <nathaneltitane> how do i pass the escape to the apt get install ddclient command (since i assume it'S the same process...)
[05:16] <Tobias[L]> EriC^^: its the same as with Ubuntus broken hostapd, only the old .deb can be used for ap-hotspot
[05:16] <Tobias[L]> strg-c works wonders
[05:17] <sjm> devians you can't pin the package?
[05:17] <devians> sjm see https://gist.github.com/jhogendorn/d31caf8ec1c05da1a923
[05:17] <Roey> hello
[05:18] <Emrich> Any one know the procedure for installing the guest additions to ubuntu for vbox. I'm new to linux.
[05:19] <Roey> For some reason this past month my usb3-attached external backup drive is no longe rrecognized by the Linux kernel when I attach it.  I do "modprobe -v xhci_hcd", see no output, check with lsmod and do not see XHCI in its listing.  How should I proceed?
[05:19] <SchrodingersScat> Emrich: once you load the guest additions image via the virtualbox menu, it should appear as a cd in the VM, from there you can open the directory of the cd and there's a script you execute.
[05:20] <devians> sjm, EriC^^ see https://gist.github.com/jhogendorn/d31caf8ec1c05da1a923 so theres a pin, theres trying directly on the command line. the pin is totally ignored, the command line tells you to bugger off if its not the latest version. I'm stumped. Is there a way I can just wget the package?
[05:20] <Tobias[L]> Roey: does lsusb list the drive still?
[05:20] <Roey> no it does not.
[05:20] <sjm> devians, are you sure the ppa includes the source?  or just the binaries?
[05:20] <devians> if I do not specify a version I get the latest source fine.
[05:20] <Roey> Tobias[L]:  it does not
[05:20] <fedora_newb> Ok, so I have checked to make sure I have virtualization enabled in the bios (yes), 3d enabled, plenty of cpu and ram but ubuntu 14.04 reacts very slow in virtualbox vm.
[05:21] <SchrodingersScat> Emrich: I don't remember the name of the file, but I believe it ends in a .sh or it will mention linux probably?  If you list the contents of the directory then someone will probably know.
[05:21] <sjm> devians, is there a reason you don't use the nginx repo?  Just curious.
[05:21] <devians> that _is_ the nginx repo
[05:21] <Tobias[L]> Roey: likely your connector or the external connector board are dead
[05:21] <devians> and if you're referring to the non ppa one, its becase that one is _ancient_
[05:21] <Roey> Tobias[L]:  how do I check?
[05:21] <Tobias[L]> Roey: get an cheap 15 bucks external drive case and screw in the drive
[05:22] <Roey> Tobias[L]:  the USB3 card I added shows up under lspci
[05:22] <Roey> this IS a usb3 card it's connected to
[05:22] <Emrich> Ok, so iv;e tried installing the image for guest additions several times and i have sucessfully done this before with XP but i can't seem to get any responce from my OS when i click to install the additions.
[05:22] <EriC^^> devians: maybe mark the packages that you dont want
[05:22] <EriC^^> devians: look into apt-mark
[05:23] <sjm> devians.  according to http://wiki.nginx.org/Install  that's the community maintained repo, not the official one.
[05:23] <Tobias[L]> Roey: if your host connector shows but whatever its connected to doesnt... get an cheap external drive case and check again
[05:23] <EriC^^> devians: sudo apt-mark hold <package>=<version> maybe
[05:23] <SchrodingersScat> Emrich: if you right click in the directory for the cd, do you see an "Open in terminal"?  if so you can try doing that so you can run the script and be able to read any errors.  Also, I believe you have to run it with sudo, if I recall correctly.
[05:23] <EriC^^> devians: if that doesn't take a version argument, look into apt_preferences ( man apt_preferences )
[05:24] <Roey> Tobias[L]:  ok, let me re-phrase this
[05:24] <Roey> Tobias[L]:  I have an external hard drive in a usb3 enclosure that I am connecting to the port on the usb3 card I once bought.
[05:25] <Roey> Tobias[L]:  this worked fine till about...a month ago, I think?
[05:25] <devians> sjm well I'm telling you the other one is _old_
[05:25] <SchrodingersScat> Emrich: tab complete can help you here, once you're in a terminal in the correct directory, you can type 'sudo' a space, the first few letters of the file, then hit tab to see what your options are.
[05:25] <Roey> then I notice that /backup has not been mounted at least as of the last uptime, which was ten days.
[05:25] <Tobias[L]> Roey: so the USB 3.0 card isnt recognized?
[05:25] <Roey> it IS recognized
 Tobias[L]:  the USB3 card I added shows up under lspci
[05:25] <Emrich> Their is a cd file folder in my system file path but it is not related to the guest additions. It should be known that i am not using a standard ubuntu distribution.
[05:25] <Tobias[L]> Roey: but your hdd enclosure isnt
[05:25] <sjm> devians, it has nginx_1.6.2-1~precise_amd64.deb
[05:25] <Roey> correct.
[05:25] <Roey> and this is a new issue, it worked before.
[05:26] <Tobias[L]> Roey: whats stopping you from jamming it inti an usb 2.0 port?
[05:26] <fedora_newb> Ok, so I have checked to make sure I have virtualization enabled in the bios (yes), 3d enabled, plenty of cpu and ram but ubuntu 14.04 reacts very slow in virtualbox vm.
[05:26] <Roey> Tobias[L]:  hmm.  I suppose.
[05:26] <SchrodingersScat> Emrich: Not sure what to advise then, have you loaded the guest additions image via the virtualbox menu?
[05:26] <Roey> let me try...
[05:26] <sjm> devians, that page says the official nginx one is at:
[05:26] <Tobias[L]> Roey: USB 3.0 is explicitely marked as backwards compatible XD
[05:26] <sjm> deb http://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ precise nginx
[05:26] <sjm> deb-src http://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ precise nginx
[05:26] <uskerine> is syslog installed by default in ubuntu 12.04 minimal installation?
[05:26] <Tobias[L]> Roey: if it isnt recognized there you need a new encasement
[05:27] <SchrodingersScat> Emrich: What did you click if you don't see the guest additions cd?
[05:27] <devians> sjm yeah. the releases on there are ancient though.
[05:27] <uskerine> -I see rsyslogd process but I can't find /etc/syslog.conf-
[05:27] <teoma> Is it possible to enable both headphone and speaker output on a laptop?
[05:27] <Tobias[L]> teoma: look into jack audio server if it switching isnt hardwired into your audio card
[05:27] <Emrich> Hold on i might be able to fix it. Sighning off.
[05:28] <SchrodingersScat> also !ubuntu
[05:28] <teaearlgraycold> Can you have a remote PulseAudio connection?
[05:28] <teoma> Tobias[L]: I'm already using jackd, actually.
[05:28] <sjm> devians, it looks like it has the same version you are trying to use:  http://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/pool/nginx/n/nginx/
[05:28] <Tobias[L]> teaearlgraycold: yes you can, there is only a small package needed to open it to the network but it will lag and crack the audio
[05:29] <teaearlgraycold> Tobias[L], even on gigabit lan?
[05:29] <Tobias[L]> teoma: then likely the switch is hardwired into your card, making it impossible to do so
[05:29] <devians> sjm maybe so, but if I use that source and pull the source, its for a totally different package, totally different version thats incomprehensible
[05:29] <Tobias[L]> teaearlgraycold: it is pulse that cracks, not the lan (tested for me from Gaming pc to taspberry pi/banana pi)
[05:29] <teaearlgraycold> :(
[05:29] <teoma> Tobias[L]: I see, thanks...
[05:29] <teaearlgraycold> Would be really cool to steam my audio output like that
[05:30] <Tobias[L]> teoma: do you see two audio outputs or a "switch" in the control panel when you plug in headphones?
[05:30] <Roey> Tobias[L]:  it's a software messup I think
[05:30] <Roey> Tobias[L]:  I just testd with another usb3 enclosure, got the same issue.
[05:31] <Tobias[L]> teaearlgraycold: try it out but i guarantee it will mostly mess with the audio thing ... but if you are interested in that look into roard audio
[05:31] <Tobias[L]> teaearlgraycold: jup, just RoarD
[05:31] <teaearlgraycold> K, thanks
[05:31] <Tobias[L]> Roey: try an older kernel version
[05:31] <Roey> don't have that luxury
[05:31] <Roey> not sure I have older ones available
[05:31] <Roey> but I un derstand what you mean
[05:32] <teoma> Tobias[L]: I never use the panel -- would qjackctl be the program to use?
[05:33] <Tobias[L]> teoma: is pulse still installed? i hope you use the alsa/pulse sink instead of having it replaced
[05:34] <Roey> Tobias[L]:  I am going to bed but if you want type and I will read tomorrow
[05:34] <Roey> Tobias[L]:  also two more issues:  (1) my timezone is set corectly yet I have +5 hours on my clocks in KDE and in command line... why??
[05:34] <uskerine> what does '-' mean in rsyslog.conf?    mail.*                          -/var/log/mail.log
[05:35] <Tobias[L]> Roey: set time in kde clock app
[05:35] <teaearlgraycold> What does Linux have in terms of a firewall?
[05:35] <teoma> Tobias[L]: I'm using PulseAudio's module-jack-sink and pamodule-jack-source.
[05:35] <Roey> Tobias[L]:  NYC
[05:35] <Roey> it's 00:35 here now.
[05:35] <teoma> Sorry, that's module-jack-source.
[05:35] <Tobias[L]> teaearlgraycold: it doesnt need ine really since its secure by design but it has "ufw" for easy things and AppArmor for app-to-app things
[05:35] <x_root> how to fix power menu problem on ubuntu 14.04?
[05:35] <Tobias[L]> teoma: open your ubuntu sound menu then
[05:36] <Tobias[L]> teoma: the one where you see all inputs and outputs and the basic things in system settings
[05:36] <x_root> like, from top panel, i try to power off, but the power off button and session button don't work.. how can i fix this?
[05:36] <teaearlgraycold> Tobias[L],  why doesn't it need one? You mean it's not a problem because apps aren't run as root?
[05:37] <Tobias[L]> teaearlgraycold: unlike windows ubuntu comes with zero to no services that actually can recieve and process data unless you explicitely install them. if a system doesnt react to any data stream it gets sent a firewall wont help anyway since there is nothing to block
[05:37] <teoma> Tobias[L]: I'm embarrassed to say this in #ubuntu, but I'm actually using Debian...
[05:38] <teaearlgraycold> Tobias[L], well there's SSH which is packaged with Ubuntu
[05:38] <cfhowlett> teoma, no need for apology, but you really need to ask #debian for assistance with this
[05:38] <Tobias[L]> teaearlgraycold: UFW can block single ports or port and ip ranges how you want, use GUFW if you want to have it graphical. with apparmor you can limit an app's capabilites aswell as with SELinux rulesets
[05:38] <teaearlgraycold> Alright cool
[05:39] <Tobias[L]> teoma: yep likely, i dont knwo how to display soundcard names in debian or linux
[05:39] <Tobias[L]> teoma: but a tip: my display changes form "analog speakers" to "headphones" when plugged in, offered by my soundcard which suggests what to use which results in having both possible to use. cheap cards may just reroute the signal if it is plugged in
[05:40] <pentagon_> Why isn't the machine resolving hostnames?
[05:41] <Tobias[L]> teaearlgraycold: and ssh aswell is most likely secured and not accessible on most installations (dunno if still but on most linuxes i need to install ssh-server for ssh to work) (only desktop OSes)
[05:41] <teoma> Tobias[L]: Thanks very much for the help!
[05:41] <Tobias[L]> teoma: no problem, lets hope you dont have the cheap reroute solution but both streams accessible instead ^^
[05:43] <GoldenAngle> The way of the fool is right in his own eyes,
[05:43] <GoldenAngle> But the wise one accepts advice.
[05:43] <Tobias[L]> GoldenAngle: for the discussion of the sense of life please fo to #42
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:44] <GoldenAngle> Morning
[05:46] <Axton> Morning
[05:46] <Tobias[L]> oh gosh im way over time (6 hours XD) see you!
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a GUI package that can enable/disable /etc/init system services, now im disabling them the manual way with service.override trick
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> any ideas?
[05:48] <reisio> lotuspsychje: I know such things exist :)
[05:48] <reisio> CentOS comes with one, which is presumably generic for GNOME+whatever init CentOS uses
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> reisio: i tyed many packages like jobs-admin, bum and others but they dont show all system services right the new upstart way
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> reisio: i also read ubuntu 16 will have systemd in the future
[05:51] <reisio> it will, if Debian is still using systemd
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> reisio: well systemd can brake things i hear..if we still use the /etc/init
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> reisio: so im seerahcing for a nice package :p
[05:52] <reisio> you tend to want one init system solution at a time, yes
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> yep, just wanna tweak boot time with unwanted services like CUPS
[05:52] <reisio> why not cease rebooting? :p
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> reisio: meaning?
[05:53] <reisio> why reboot
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> lol this is a netbook not a server
[05:54] <reisio> lotuspsychje: makes no difference
[05:55] <GoldenAngle> A shrewd man conceals what he knows,
[05:55] <GoldenAngle> But the heart of the fool blurts out his foolishness.
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> reisio: checl ls /etc/init i want some of those disabled
[05:56] <reisio> GoldenAngle: well blurted :)
[05:56] <pentagon_> Where does dnsmasq look for nameservers to use?
[05:56] <reisio> lotuspsychje: I doubt most have much effect on boot time
[05:56] <pentagon_> If it looks in /etc/resolv.conf then it is pointing back to itself.
[05:58] <GoldenAngle> The hand of the diligent ones will rule,
[05:58] <GoldenAngle> But idle hands will be put to forced labor.
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> GoldenAngle: this is not the channel for poetry mate
[06:00] <GoldenAngle> It's not poetry
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> GoldenAngle: nor its ubuntu support..
[06:00] <cfhowlett> GoldenAngle, it's not ubuntu support either
[06:00] <Flannel> GoldenAngle: Regardless of what it is, it's offtopic for this channel, please stop it.
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> pentagon_: maybe this can help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq
[06:08] <chaotic_good> hey gents why does dpkg -i not install latest deb of chrome 38? i386 14.04lts
[06:08] <chaotic_good> I got the deb from google
[06:09] <cfhowlett> chaotic_good, chromium is the recommended linux version --- in the repos
[06:10] <Bashing-om> chaotic_good: Are yoy running 'dpkg' in the same directory as the google file is in ?
[06:25] <pentagon_> There is some loopy fiasco going on with the DNS setup.
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> pentagon_: can you tell us what you are trying to do exactly?
[06:33] <pentagon_> lotuspsychje, I am trying to setup iptables rules.
[06:34] <chaotic_good> yeah id use fwbuilder
[06:34] <chaotic_good> yeeahh
[06:34] <chaotic_good> wow latest chrome dep chase finally over
[06:34] <chaotic_good> 14 should pakup chrome 38
[06:35] <chaotic_good> seems basic repo not work
[06:35] <chaotic_good> i got chrome 38 i386 deb
[06:35] <chaotic_good> had chase all deps byhand
[06:35] <chaotic_good> wtf
[06:35] <chaotic_good> this is 2014
[06:35] <pentagon_> The loopback is unique in how it is handled.
[06:36] <Ben64> chaotic_good: not sure what you're doing, but i think you're in the wrong channel, this is for ubuntu support only
[06:36] <pentagon_> I have to think about it from a kernel perspective.
[06:40] <pentagon_> kernel in the middle attacks
[06:43] <chaotic_good> ubuntu getting chrome on 14.04lts i386
[06:43] <chaotic_good> wasnt ez
[06:53] <liudong> .
[07:21] <Mala> Where does ubuntu keep it's keyboard layouts?
[07:28] <rypervenche> Mala: /usr/share/keymaps/i386/
[07:28] <Mala> rypervenche: thanks mate.
[07:30] <maum> I got error [ no boot filename received operating system not found]
[07:31] <maum> when I try to install Xenserver
[07:32] <maum> hello
[07:32] <beefKitten> New machine, using Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 graphics card, can't get resolution beyond 1024x768 on external display.. any advice?
[07:34] <MaximB> hey, when 14.10 will be released?
[07:34] <bubbasaures> has been
[07:34] <cfhowlett> !14.10 | MaximB, ??? read the memo
[07:35] <MaximB> ho right, now I see it
[07:35] <xangua> see the light my so
[07:49] <xtpeeps> Anyone known black box baseed on Ubuntu?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> xtpeeps, not supported here
[07:51] <xtpeeps> Okey ,thank U all the same
[08:11]  * EREVAN is away -( brb )- at 12:11p -( P:On / L:On )-
[08:12] <Schmiel_> Willis: 12
[08:12]  * EREVAN is back -( brb )- gone 28 s
[08:12] <Schmiel_> oops
[08:14] <He4dShOt> hello
[08:15] <He4dShOt> i keep getting an error from the "Backup" saying "Backup Failed" "Ubuntu One has shut down.  Please choose another storage location."
[08:15] <He4dShOt> I can't find how to disable it
[08:33] <Danielone_Difi> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:33] <Danielone_Difi> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:33] <Danielone_Difi> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:33] <Danielone_Difi> ntaccaaaaaaa
[08:33] <Danielone_Difi> hi lenovo
[08:33]  * Blue_Xombie puts a trampoline under Danielone
[08:34] <Danielone_Difi> ripondi down
[08:34] <Danielone_Difi> what=
[08:34] <Danielone_Difi> danielone state  of mind
[08:34] <DJones> Danielone_Difi: Please don't do that, this is a support channel, if you have an Ubuntu support question, please feel free to ask it
[08:34] <Blue_Xombie> You were yelling weeee, so i didnt want you to hit the ground since you seemed to  be falling
[08:34] <Blue_Xombie> :P
[08:34] <Danielone_Difi> sci xo arspunnet
[08:35] <Danielone_Difi> how to join a channel?
[08:35] <Danielone_Difi> oo
[08:35] <Ben64> Danielone_Difi: /join #channel
[08:35] <Danielone_Difi> arspunn
[08:35] <Danielone_Difi> thx
[08:37] <Danielone_Difi> belaaa
[08:37] <Ben64> Danielone_Difi: stop that
[08:37] <cfhowlett> He4dShOt, ubuntuone backup storage services were shut down months ago
[08:38] <He4dShOt> cfhowlett, I know I'm getting the waring at every reboot since then
[08:38] <cfhowlett> !ops | fustirge just pm spammed me.
[08:39] <Danielone_Difi> fatevi una vita
[08:40] <cfhowlett> Danielone_Difi, not funny.  stop.
[08:40] <Ben64> Danielone_Difi: this channel is for ubuntu support only, and in English only
[08:43] <Danielone_Difi> su canrc
[08:43] <Danielone_Difi> ij parl agna m par creti
[08:43] <Dalmato> maiale
[08:43] <Dalmato> Di raimo ti pio a sardelle
[08:43] <daftykins> !it
[08:43] <Danielone_Difi> rulli ma che vonn quiss
[08:44] <Dalmato> occhio a mohammad ca ciammazz
[08:44] <Dalmato> gureri no
[08:44] <Dalmato> mazzini ciao
[08:44] <Dalmato> guerino
[08:44] <chaotic_good> old gforth in ubuntu
[08:44] <chaotic_good> no pfe
[08:44] <Danielone_Difi> mo ti pij a sardell
[08:44] <Dalmato> a chi?
[08:44] <Danielone_Difi> si capit ben 64
[08:45] <chaotic_good> Iguess I must compile pfe.
[08:45] <Dalmato> chaotic_good hello
[08:45] <Danielone_Difi> ti tir na cucciat mpett ti sgonfj
[08:46] <Danielone_Difi> arspunn zaffo
[08:46] <doppiaP> ma chi sti di!?!?
[08:48] <daftykins> DJones: and not a moment too soon ;)
[08:50] <ZGN> Hello! Could someone help me remove Ubuntu?
[08:50] <Ben64> ZGN: and replace it with...?
[08:51] <cfhowlett> ZGN, go to filesystem > select all > delete      no mo buntu
[08:52] <ZGN> I bought a Desktop through local ads and it has Ubuntu dual booted on the same ntfs partition as Windows 7, Ubuntu comes up as an Option in Windows Boot Manager and I would like to uinstall Ubuntu and keep Windows.
[08:52] <Ben64> ZGN: are you sure its not a separate partition?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> ZGN, that would be a wubi installation.  delete the same as you would delete a windows app.
[08:53] <eb0t> zgn you should maybe have a play with it ....
[08:53] <eb0t> i dont think upuntu can isnall on an ntfs file partition
[08:53] <shoeb> i had the same problem,
[08:54] <ZGN> Positive same Partition, and I cannot, it does not Come up in Windows Programs, I tryed using the Uninstaller.exe in C:/Ubuntu, but the Process just closes upon Opening.
[08:54] <shoeb> use revo uninstaller,
[08:55] <ZGN> ?
[08:55] <Ben64> ZGN: i don't really know about wubi, its long since unsupported, but if you don't boot into grub, you can delete that folder
[08:55] <Ben64> if you do boot into grub, you'll need to fix the mbr, which you'd have to get that information from ##windows
[08:55] <cfhowlett> ZGN, you'll need to manually delete the windows bootloader entry = ask ##windows
[08:55] <hillary> i need to completely remove netbeans 7.4 in my ubuntu 14.04. which command can use to carry out
[08:55] <OerHeks> removal in windows softwarecenter should do
[08:56] <Ben64> hillary: sudo apt-get purge netbeans
[08:56] <ZGN> There is no Windows Software Centre lol:p
[08:56] <ZGN> Guys it shouldnt be this hard to remove an OS what do I do
[08:56] <OerHeks> ZNG sure, you said windows 7 ...
[08:56] <hillary> ok thanks
[08:56] <ZGN> Yes, there is no Such thing as Windows Software Centre.
[08:57] <cfhowlett> ZGN, told you already.  select the partition, delete and fix the bootloader
[08:57] <ZGN> Same partition as Windows.
[08:57]  * OerHeks facepalms
[08:57]  * cfhowlett facempalms his keyboard
[08:58] <eb0t> i dont know anything about the windows bootloader...but you could get a live cd/ zgn and using fdisk you could remove the ubuntu partition
[08:58] <cfhowlett> ZGN, ubuntu is inside a windows folder, yes?  delete the folder.
[08:58] <eb0t> but like the others said from there you will have to update the mbr
[08:58] <OerHeks> eb0t, inside windows means ZNG used wubi.
[08:59] <bubbasaures> ZGN, It is in add remove use it with admin
[08:59] <ZGN> Ok, How would I go about removeing/changiing the SU password?
[08:59] <eb0t> ah great ...thanks as i didnt think it was possible prior to now to actually install ubuntu on a ntfs partition
[08:59] <eb0t> so wubi is the way
[09:00] <cfhowlett> eb0t, except that, as has been stated repeatedly, wubi is NOT the way.  unsupported.  will break 14.04 onwards
[09:00] <ZGN>  Ok, How would I go about removeing/changiing the SU password without effecting the mount of Windows 7.
[09:00] <eb0t> no i mean it is how it was done
[09:00] <eb0t> i didnt know it could be done
[09:00] <OerHeks> win7 was the last windows what supported wubi
[09:01] <ZGN> Can anyone answer me?:p
[09:01] <cfhowlett> !password | ZGN
[09:01] <eb0t> have you got the root password zgn
[09:01] <ZGN> I need to Change root password.
[09:01] <eb0t> if so then just open a terminal ..log in to root...and then type passwd root
[09:01] <Ben64> ZGN: there is no root password
[09:01] <eb0t> and then it will ask you for the new password
[09:02] <Ben64> eb0t: please don't suggest that here
[09:02] <ZGN> How do you log into root?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> eb0t, not helping.
[09:02] <Ben64> ZGN: you don't
[09:02] <eb0t> thats how i change my root password
[09:02] <ZGN> I do not know any password.
[09:02] <Ben64> eb0t: thats fine, don't suggest it here
[09:02] <RahulAN> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ozcanesen/terra-terminal/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages
[09:02] <cfhowlett> !password | ZGN, dude.  rEAD TTHE LINK
[09:02] <RahulAN> I am getting this
[09:02] <RahulAN> how to install terra
[09:02] <RahulAN> in ubuntu
[09:02] <cfhowlett> RahulAN, change your mirror to main repo and try again
[09:03] <Ben64> RahulAN: we can't support PPAs here, i suggest you contact the maintainer of that PPA
[09:03] <ZGN> How do I change root password?
[09:03] <RahulAN> cfhowlett, how to do thta?
[09:03] <RahulAN> *that
[09:03] <Ben64> ZGN: you don't, there is no root password. stop asking
[09:03] <cfhowlett> ZGN, no root password.
[09:03] <RahulAN> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ozcanesen/terra-terminal/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  here is the correct link
[09:04] <OerHeks> RahulAN, see https://launchpad.net/~ozcanesen/+archive/ubuntu/terra-terminal, it has no trusty candidates
[09:04] <ZGN> SuperUser password, whatever it is.
[09:04] <cfhowlett> RahulAN, it's a ppa.  contact the ppa provider if you have troubles.  see their page.
[09:04] <cynicallemon> ZGN: sudo passwd root
[09:04] <Ben64> RahulAN: you should not mix versions like that
[09:04] <DJones> RahulAN: You're getting the error because because the ppa maintainer hasn't created a Trusty release
[09:04] <Ben64> cynicallemon: do not suggest that here please
[09:04] <ZGN> How do I change the password of an Account?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> ZGN, before I add you to /ignore, complete instructions are on the url link I've sent you twice ...
[09:04] <RahulAN> DJones, then how can i make it installed
[09:05] <cfhowlett> RahulAN, contact the maintainer and ask where the trusty version is.
[09:05] <cynicallemon> Ben64: you can even find that on ubuntu's site
[09:05] <RahulAN> cfhowlett, Ok
[09:06] <ash`wrk> hey guys - i'm having driver hell atm
[09:06] <Ben64> cynicallemon: right after that it says "use at your own risk!"
[09:06] <ash`wrk> Does anyone know how to install ATI drivers so i can install the thing?
[09:06] <cynicallemon> Ben64: what risk?
[09:06] <Ben64> cynicallemon: i'm sure its well documented somewhere else, i'm not getting into that here
[09:07] <OerHeks> cynicallemon, no it is not on the ubuntu site
[09:07] <cynicallemon> Ben64: its for simplicity but not scurity
[09:07] <Twinkie> So I have a question regarding hardware compatibility to ubuntu. Anyone knowledgable enough to assist?
[09:07] <OerHeks> cynicallemon, maybe someones site, not from cononical
[09:07] <eb0t> Twinkie:  fire away
[09:08] <cfhowlett> !hcl | Twinkie
[09:08] <cynicallemon> OerHeks: it may have been on the docs or forums
[09:09] <OerHeks> cynicallemon, again, not. and a forum post is not the official view. sure someone responded to that not to do it.
[09:10] <cynicallemon> OerHeks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:10] <cynicallemon> OerHeks: please check yours facts before telling someone they dont know the facts
[09:11] <Ben64> cynicallemon: can we just stop this discussion already? its not a supported method, and not good advice to be giving in this channel
[09:11] <RahulAN> there is no trusty ppa
[09:11] <RahulAN> for terra
[09:11] <Twinkie> Sorry in advance for spam. Alright. I just need to know if my specs will run on ubuntu or if I'll need to take extra steps to make them work. The specs are as follows : Motherboard : Sabertooth 990fx R2.0
[09:11] <Twinkie> ---CPU : AMD FX 9370 8-core
[09:11] <Twinkie> ---GPU : Sapphire Radeon R9 280x--- Ram : Gskill 16gb(8x2), 1600 MHz
[09:11] <Twinkie> --- Sound Card : Asus Xonar DS......
[09:11] <Ben64> RahulAN: then talk to the maintainer about it, has nothing to do with this channel
[09:11] <RahulAN> is it same to install it from another ppa?
[09:12] <OerHeks> cynicallemon, see, there are warnings all over.
[09:12] <cynicallemon> OerHeks: yes and its on an official ubuntu site...
[09:14] <OerHeks> cynicallemon, don't suggest it here.
[09:15] <cynicallemon> OerHeks: i didnt suggest it i answered somebodies query - its called freedom to speak, even mark would agree
[09:16] <cfhowlett> cynicallemon, can we please move on now??
[09:16] <cynicallemon> sure
[09:16] <cynicallemon> next question...
[09:16] <Ben64> cynicallemon: just don't suggest that in the future
[09:17] <cynicallemon> Ben64: see above response
[09:17] <Ben64> no, do not suggest that here in the future
[09:19] <cynicallemon> Ben64: its useful for everyone to know actually even if they dont use it.
[09:19] <Ben64> cynicallemon: no
[09:20] <OerHeks> cynicallemon, you want to win, isn it?
[09:20] <cynicallemon> OerHeks: im not bothered about winning im bothered about informing
[09:21] <Ben64> suggesting a bad command is not informative at all, don't do it
[09:22] <cfhowlett> cynicallemon, "informing" users about something explicitly and officially by the publisher advised against could be considered trolling ... trolling ...
[09:24] <cynicallemon> not trolling but i will shutup now
[09:24] <theBOFH> trolling?
[09:25] <Twinkie> Anyone able to respond to my hardware question? If you know your stuff I'd love the input.
[09:25] <cfhowlett> Twinkie, the gpu is a radeon, isn't it?  not the best record of linux support.  Intel or Nvidia are preferred IIRC
[09:26] <cfhowlett> Twinkie, in fact, avoid AMD altogether if possible
[09:26] <Twinkie> My whole system is AMD, I can't avoid it ._. i built it lol
[09:26] <Ben64> nothing wrong with amd cpu
[09:26] <mdoge> only a little bit
[09:27] <Twinkie> So you think my GPU will have issues?
[09:27] <Ben64> quite possibly
[09:27] <Twinkie> Are they unable to be solved or really ahrd to solve?
[09:27] <Twinkie> hard*
[09:27] <cfhowlett> !amd
[09:27] <Ben64> not sure, last ati i had was radeon 9200
[09:28] <Twinkie> Ah, so I could possibly get lucky with this new-ish card being compatible. Mm.
[09:28] <Ben64> might need a newer version of the drivers than ubuntu ships with, you may need to use the xorg-edgers PPA
[09:28] <OerHeks> Twinkie, forum tread about your videocard, it is working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244700
[09:29] <Twinkie> Whoa, you're a good hunter
[09:29] <Twinkie> I'll check it out real quick
[09:30] <hateball> Twinkie: The issues are more related to performance than it working at all, afaik
[09:30] <hateball> For any AMD GPU, that is
[09:32] <Twinkie> So basically it DOES work, but the performance might be pooped on, even with proper drivers.
[09:35] <Twinkie> @Ben64 what would xorg-edgers PPA be? I know next to nothing about linux/ubuntu related softwares
[09:35] <Twinkie> if that even is a software O-o
[09:36] <ash`wrk> i'm going to just give up
[09:36] <hateball> Twinkie: It's a means of getting updated graphics stuff
[09:36] <Ben64> Twinkie: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories, they are unsupported. xorg-edgers is one that provides bleeding edge drivers and other display stuff
[09:36] <ash`wrk> i want to stab microsoft in the face with a big knfie
[09:36] <ash`wrk> :/
[09:38] <Twinkie> Alright, thanks guys. I'll be back in a bit (probably with more questions). Thanks for the assist!
[09:40] <RWOverdijk> How do I limit the max no. socket connections?
[09:40] <RWOverdijk> Per IP
[09:43] <ash`wrk> Quick question, the thought of running windows is killing me - how can i install ubuntu from my usb using the CLI?
[09:43] <ash`wrk> there's physically no way of my doing it using the interactive GUI
[09:44] <Ben64> why not?
[09:44] <DJones> !minimal | ash`wrk If a GUI won't run & install, you could try the minimal install which sues a text based installer, but you need to specify what you want to install,
[09:46] <ash`wrk> might actually hep
[09:50] <egreb> hi, installed ubuntu on my desktop. The computer shuts down at boot screen, but sometimes it doesn't. Is there some logs I can look at to find the reason for the shutdown in boot?
[09:51] <dragan> should i upgrade to 14.10 or should i stick to 14.04(lts) till next lts(16.04)?
[09:51] <Ben64> dragan: really up to you
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> dragan: i would stick to trusty
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> dragan: alot of users with screen issues on 14.10
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> dragan: depends what you choose like Ben64 suggests
[09:53] <enyc> dragan: if 14.04 LTS is working for you keep it!!  new versions introduce lots of smaller changes and potential problems...
[09:53] <enyc> dragan: AIUI there will be lots of   disruptive changes on the way to 16.04  which will hopefully improve matters =)
[09:54] <enyc> dragan: but will take time to sort out...  as always
[09:56] <dragan> im using ubuntu since 8 but i've heard that xx.10 releases arent so stable like xx.04 releases. i will probably wait unitll 15.04(i could swear i've red that ubuntu is gonna be on the roll release). Anyways where i can inform that my dell 5520 hardware gonna work?
[09:59] <Ben64> dragan: theres no difference between .04 and .10, LTS ones happen to be 8.04 10.04 12.04 14.04 16.04, but 13.04, 15.04, etc are not LTS
[10:02] <bernard__> #python
[10:02] <enyc> dragan: avoid saying just '8' -- thtas confusing...  8.04 and 8.10 are different releases  --  LTS releases are generally more stable versions indeed...
[10:03] <enyc> dragan: the best thing you can do is boot the live-CD / live-USB on the dell-5520 and see if it works well!  you don't need to install it to test...
[10:06] <dragan> when i said 8 i ment 2008 (8.04, 8.10), totally forgot about livecd probably cause im upggrading since my laptop came with 12.10 i think.
[10:06] <Ben64> dragan: 8.04 and 8.10 are completely different versions though. if you're going to be talking about a version, you should use the complete version number
[10:07] <dragan> Ben64, ok
[10:07] <qwerty_> ng
[10:08] <enyc> dragan: what versino do you have installed now??
[10:08] <qwerty_> hi
[10:08] <qwerty_> 12 ????
[10:09] <dragan> enyc, i have 14.04 64 bit
[10:09] <enyc> dragan: in which case, keep it =)
[10:10] <BSz|away> hi
[10:10] <qwerty_> hi
[10:11] <enyc> qwerty_: questons not clear, try asking a complete, coherent, question =)
[10:12] <waykool99> Building a custom version of Ubuntu Studio. To create an image .iso file, should i use Brasero, CD/DVD burn of a different program? Thank you for suggestions.
[10:12] <BSz|away> how to insert current date into a bash script? i want to tail a server log , always with the current date. like alias log='php artisan tail /var/www/project/log-2014-11-17.txt' and here replace the date with a dynamic function
[10:12] <liudong> hi
[10:14] <OerHeks> BSz|away, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-appleosx-bsd-shell-appending-date-to-filename/
[10:14] <BSz|away> OerHeks: thanks
[10:14] <OerHeks> waykool99, any program that can handle iso will do, K3B, Brassero too
[10:18] <waykool99> Ah thx. Forgot about K3B. CD/DVD Burn is a drag-and-drop simple program. Will try K3B. Thx for your suggestions.
[10:19] <WebWalker> Test
[10:19] <WebWalker> list
[10:19] <WebWalker> #China
[10:20] <OerHeks> !cn | WebWalker
[10:21] <reed> I lost access to the EDS addressbook in thunderbird. Anyone here with the same issue? There is no progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1315510
[10:23] <bunny> hii..
[10:23] <WebWalker> Got it, thx ubottu
[10:23] <BSz|away> can I update bash scripts (aliases) without logging out?
[10:23] <reed> BSz|away, yes
[10:23] <bunny> may anyone tell me about sentiment analysis
[10:24] <BSz|away> reed: which command makes that work?
[10:24] <reed> bunny, wikipedia should cover the basics
[10:24] <OerHeks> bunny, how it that related to ubuntu support?
[10:24] <bunny> okie
[10:24] <reed> BSz|away, use the ". .bash_alias"
[10:24] <reed> BSz|away, . is a command in bash
[10:25] <bunny> i m getting thunderbird mail working for gmaill
[10:25] <reed> BSz|away, followed by the file where you store your aliases
[10:25] <reed> BSz|away, another simple way is to start another termina (if you're working in terminal) or start another bash within bash
[10:25] <DarkLinkXXXX> The icedtea-netx package seems to be ignoring update-alternatives, or something. http://pastebin.com/gfJDkGRX
[10:26] <reed> nobody lost its GNOME addressbook in thunderbird I guess, eh?
[10:27] <BSz|away> reed thanks
[10:27] <BSz|away> i use terminal sure, byobu
[10:29] <DarkLinkXXXX> Umm… halp?
[10:29] <OerHeks> DarkLinkXXXX, what desktop are you using ? i found this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icedtea-web/+bug/1363785
[10:30] <DarkLinkXXXX> OerHeks, Utopic, XFCE from bootstrap.
[10:31] <OerHeks> there is a manual solution at the end, see #39
[10:36] <Den> ciao a tutti
[10:36] <mrcloud> do you guys have some idea about why I can connect to a ngircd server on my ubuntu from a client like kiwiirc (online) but not from irssi?
[10:55] <Twinkie> Not really ubuntu related, but if I want to dual-boot (in my case trio-boot) my system with 3 different OS, does each OS have to be on a seperate hard-drive? This isn't a problem, just curious.
[10:56] <jpds> Twinkie: No, just seperate partitions.
[10:56] <Twinkie> Ah, alright. Thanks =) Next question : when fully installed, what is the size & space leeway Ubunto would need and come out to?
[10:57] <OerHeks> 6.4 gb+
[10:57] <EriC^^> about 7GB
[10:57] <Twinkie> Awesome. Any idea for Mint, then?
[10:58] <EriC^^> Twinkie: add like 3-4GB for installing programs and such
[10:58] <Twinkie> Also, why the hell is windows so big? takes like 40 friggen gigs ._.
[10:58] <Twinkie> Ah, so ubunto would round up to about 10 ~ 15 gigs then?
[10:58] <Twinkie> ubuntu*
[10:59] <Twinkie> Just trying to figure out if my 120gig ssd is big enough for all three if partitioned correctly. Sorry for the endless questioning
[10:59] <Twinkie> I'm not interrogating you, promise.
[11:00] <bewees> Hi, i disabled network-manager by writing 'manual' into /etc/init/network-manager.override. Now I wanted to reenable NM and I just deleted latter file, but NM still wont autostart on startup. Why's that
[11:00] <dreamcat4> hi. is it ok to remove symlinks in root '/' folder to /boot/vmlinuz and /boot/initrd.img ?
[11:00] <jpds> Twinkie: Probably will be.
[11:00] <jpds> Twinkie: Then you need to fact in personal files.
[11:01] <Twinkie> Little to none I can't outsource to my other drives.
[11:01] <Twinkie> Awesome. Thanks :D
[11:04] <Jn_Kell> Hi all, would it be possible to just use the "HUD" (the possibility to have access to menu's from a command interface) from Ubuntu's Unity DE, into Gnome3?
[11:09] <hmmwhatsthisdo> My brother set up an ubuntu box for me to use at home. He set up my (admin) account to not have a password, and administrative tools are asking me for it but I don't have it. How can I [re]set my password remotely?
[11:10] <Ben64> hmmwhatsthisdo: passwd
[11:10] <EriC^^> ubuntu doesnt have a root accout
[11:10] <EriC^^> hmmwhatsthisdo: remotely?
[11:10] <hmmwhatsthisdo> EriC^^: Yeah, over teamviewer
[11:10] <jpds> hmmwhatsthisdo: It's your user password.
[11:10] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:10] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Ben64: that still asks me for the password to my account (that doesn't exist)
[11:10] <EriC^^> if you can login then that's that
[11:11] <Ben64> hmmwhatsthisdo: can you log in via ssh
[11:11] <EriC^^> hmmwhatsthisdo: your account exists
[11:11] <EriC^^> type id
[11:11] <hmmwhatsthisdo> like the login screen doesn't prompt me for a password (automatic login is off), but anything requiring elevation does
[11:11] <hmmwhatsthisdo> ...apparently I'm in the nopasswdlogin group
[11:12] <EriC^^> no sudo or admin?
[11:12] <hmmwhatsthisdo> no, I'm in the sudo/admin groups as well
[11:12] <EriC^^> then you have privileges
[11:13] <Ben64> hmmwhatsthisdo: well you do have a password, i guess you just don't know it
[11:13] <EriC^^> what command are you trying to execute?
[11:13] <EriC^^> hmmwhatsthisdo: try this sudo passwd <yourusername>
[11:13] <EriC^^> you should be abe to set it without knowing it
[11:13] <hmmwhatsthisdo> still asks for my password
[11:13] <EriC^^> lol nevermind
[11:13] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:14] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I suppose I could elevate to root if I knew the root password, but it's 3 am and my brother is asleep
[11:14] <Ben64> there shouldn't be a root password
[11:14] <Ben64> !password | hmmwhatsthisdo
[11:14] <EriC^^> hmmwhatsthisdo: if it's not remotely
[11:15] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I'm fairly sure my brother set a password for root so that you could use it to un-break things
[11:15] <EriC^^> hmmwhatsthisdo: if you can get access to grub you can reset the password
[11:15] <Ben64> hmmwhatsthisdo: setting a password for root is not good
[11:15] <hmmwhatsthisdo> teamviewer is my only access mode at the moment
[11:15] <Ben64> then you're stuck
[11:16] <EriC^^> hmmwhatsthisdo: type sudo -l
[11:16] <EriC^^> you might have some added commands
[11:16] <EriC^^> with NOPASSWD
[11:16] <christian_> hello i have a question. is it more safe to use e.g. weechat through the repository or the ubuntu version? ppa-version is 1.01 and the "original" ubuntu version 0.4
[11:16] <hmmwhatsthisdo> no dice
[11:17] <Ben64> christian_: ubuntu version always
[11:17] <christian_> but it says these versions are not maintained
[11:17] <christian_> its in the universe
[11:18] <christian_> or just use ubuntu version in main and for additional software the ppa?
[11:19] <Ben64> christian_: ppas are unsupported 3rd party repositories, but do whatever you want
[11:19] <faust> christian_: it mostly depends on how much you trust the mantainers of that ppa in comparison to ubuntu devs
[11:19] <shakira32> hello
[11:19] <christian_> ic
[11:21] <christian_> so it would be okay to use the multiverse sources?
[11:21] <sacarlson> christian_: you have my permision
[11:21] <shakira32> moviespornxxx.tk
[11:22] <DJones> shakira32: Nope, ubuntu.com
[11:22] <faust> mmm shakira32 I'll definetly check that really relevant site [/sarcasm]
[11:25] <dreamcat4> 14.10 - mount permissions aren't working  for UDF... umask is having no effect on UDF 2.01 partition
[11:25] <hmmwhatsthisdo> and of course my brother is asleep
[11:26] <hmmwhatsthisdo> That's super frustrating...
[11:48] <Guest75100> Hey! Wifi not working, says "wireless is disabled by hardware switch", tried rfkill unblock all. Doesnt work. Help!!!!!!
[11:48] <cfhowlett> Guest75100, was it working?
[11:49] <Guest75100> cfhowlett: yeah it was earlier
[11:49] <faust> Guest75100: what is the output of "rfkill list"?
[11:50] <Guest75100> wireless shows HARD BLOCKED
[11:50] <cfhowlett> Guest75100, this might help.  on my dell laptop, F2 key toggles wifi.  didn't work under linux however.  trial + error + 3 years and I accidentally found that ALT F2 key toggles as well.  experiment with your ctrl, alt, FN and shift key combinations
[11:50] <Guest75100> cfhowlett: tried, doesnt work
[11:52] <Guest75100> nothing works
[11:53] <faust> Guest75100: you may take a look in your bios menu if it let you select if the hardware switch should be always on or off
[11:56] <Guest75100> i dint have access to bios
[11:57] <Guest75100> its blocked by admin
[11:59] <faust> Guest75100: maybe tha admin doesn't want you to use wifi, or you may ask him help
[12:01] <DJones> Guest75100: Does this help at all http://askubuntu.com/questions/434547/wireless-hard-block Maybe try the "sudo rfkill unblock all" command
[12:08] <Bond0> Hello there!! How do I configure a bond0 interface with ppp0 and eth1? I want to aggregate 3 MB/s and 6 MB/s links into one. I need to get total 9 MB/s bandwidh!
[12:11] <Quixx> I might need to install win7 on my current ubuntu boot drive. Is it going to be horribly difficult to fix the MBR so I can boot into 7 and linux afterwords?
[12:11] <newbsduser> hello, guys how can i download a file over http without wget or curl on bash?
[12:12] <Bond0> newbsduser: Just copy the file link and run it as : wget "link"
[12:12] <logikos> I got a new laptop with a graphics card that supports 3200x1800 and after installing ubuntu and switching to the nividia driver that is the only display resolution option it gives me .. which on this laptop is way to tiny
[12:12] <Bond0> Now back to my original question!! How to bond ppp0 and eth0??
[12:12] <logikos> any idea how I might get some other options
[12:12] <newbsduser> Bond0 i dont have wget
[12:13] <Ben64> newbsduser: then get it?
[12:13] <faust> Quixx: You will just need to reinstall grub in the mbr via a livecd "grub-install /dev/sda"
[12:13] <logikos> I want 1920x1080
[12:14] <Ben64> logikos: adjust the scaling of stuff, not the resolution then
[12:14] <faust> newbsduser: you may use netcat manually implementing http...
[12:15] <logikos> Ben64 I use the laptop with a doc with monitors that do not support that resolution, so that is not a viable solution for me
[12:15] <logikos> dock
[12:15] <faust> Bond0: are you sure that bonding is applicable in you use case?
[12:16] <Ben64> logikos: you should be able to adjust it all in nvidia-settings
[12:17] <Bond0> faust: Then what is?
[12:17] <Bond0> faust: Please suggest me if there is any other way?
[12:18] <faust> Bond0: you need something like this http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[12:21] <faust> newbsduser: echo -e "GET / HTTP/1.0\n"|nc www.google.com 80 > index.html
[12:27] <OnceMe> I have a problem, after ubuntu base update, on 14.04 ubuntu LTS I am missing full gnome view, like I don't have maximaze and minimize on windows.
[12:29] <OnceMe> I dont have unity at left side at all
[12:30] <OnceMe> windows button doesnt pull up search bar, dunno whats happening
[12:30] <k1l> OnceMe: what desktop are you on? unity? and what did "base update" mean?
[12:30] <k1l> OnceMe: what video card are you on and what driver ? how did you install that driver?
[12:32] <OnceMe> fglrx
[12:32] <OnceMe> I didnt updated it
[12:32] <OnceMe> how to access terminal?
[12:33] <k1l> OnceMe: how did you install it?
[12:33] <k1l> OnceMe: ctrl+alt+t
[12:34] <OnceMe> ok
[12:34] <OnceMe> before I login to the user
[12:34] <OnceMe> or after?
[12:34] <OnceMe> I dont see to opt out from gnome gui
 OnceMe: how did you install it?
[12:34] <k1l> the fglrx
[12:34] <OnceMe> dpkg -i fglrx......deb ?
[12:35] <OnceMe> but I cant access terminal now
[12:35] <OnceMe> ctrl alt t does not work
[12:35] <k1l> ah ok. that is the reason for your issue. you dont get updates and need to reinstall after a kernel update. that is why we suggest to use the fglrx form the ubuntu repos
[12:36] <OnceMe> i thin you helped me before k1l
[12:36] <OnceMe> am I right?
[12:36] <k1l> OnceMe: you can change to tty1 with ctrl+alt+f1 and come back with ctrl+alt+f7
[12:36] <k1l> dont know, dont do lists :)
[12:37] <OnceMe> ok that worke
[12:37] <OnceMe> d
[12:38] <OnceMe> installing fxlrgx
[12:38] <OnceMe> but everytime I update ubuntu base I face with this issue, why?
[12:39] <liuyu> 有没有中国人呀？
[12:39] <liuyu> hello
[12:39] <k1l> OnceMe: because you dont use the service ubuntu offers you
[12:39] <DJones> !cn | liuyu
[12:39] <cfhowlett> !kylin | liuyu
[12:40] <ermoreno> windows is better than this shit
[12:40] <cfhowlett> ermoreno, feel free to use windows.  but cease profanity in this family-friendly channel
[12:41] <OnceMe> k1l how to switch to it
[12:41] <k1l> OnceMe: to what?
[12:42] <OnceMe> to ubuntu offer for driver amd
[12:45] <logikos> Ben64 I have not tested it with the dock yet but that seems to work, tyvm, i did not even realize nividia had its own manager installed with the driver
[12:45] <Ben64> logikos: yep, its nice
[12:46] <k1l> OnceMe: remove the driver you installed manually. then install the fglrx from the ubuntu repo
[12:46] <k1l> ...
[12:50] <White_Cat> I am fairly new to ubuntu
[12:50] <White_Cat> how can I have these three commands apply on each reboot?
[12:50] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/1ymRs2TM
[12:51] <White_Cat> would it be possible to add them to http://www.theopensourcerer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/odoo-server ?
[12:52] <DJones> White_Cat: I know who runs that website, but they're not online at the moment
[12:52] <faust> White_Cat: "sudo iptables-save" does not do what you mey think
[12:52] <faust> may*
[12:52] <White_Cat> when I run those three lines it redirects the two ips
[12:52] <Ben64> White_Cat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[12:52] <White_Cat> I am not 100% sure what I am doing with these, I am open to other suggestions
[12:53] <White_Cat> these commands to achieve what I want but they are lost on reboot
[12:53] <Ben64> White_Cat: that link i gave you has a few options for that
[12:53] <faust> White_Cat: however here you should find how to save iptables rules: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[12:53] <White_Cat> Ben64 ya I am reading, its a fairly detailed list
[12:54] <White_Cat> "If you were to reboot your machine right now, your iptables configuration would disappear. Rather than type this each time you reboot, however, you can save the configuration, and have it start up automatically. To save the configuration, you can use iptables-save and iptables-restore."
[12:55] <White_Cat> faust is that what you mean?
[12:55] <White_Cat> oh he left
[12:55] <White_Cat> or she
[12:55] <White_Cat> Ben64 that is among the commands I use
[12:55] <Ben64> White_Cat: continue reading and it shows how to use them
[12:55] <White_Cat> okay
[12:57] <White_Cat> I imagine what concerns me more is the "Configuration on Startup for NetworkManager" section
[12:59] <iLoveJava1> I am actually running Linux Mint. I have installed JDK 8 from the tar.gz package by uncompressing it, copying it to /opt/java/jdk8/ add symlinks to /usr/bin and 'sudo apt-get --update-alternatives'. Now when I try to download GeoGebra using synaptics, i could see openjdk-7, openjdk-7-headless, default-jre-7 and default-jre-headless in the dependencies to be downloaded list.  how to tell synaptic that I have manually installed jdk and never ask me to install
[13:00] <Ben64> iLoveJava1: mint is not supported here, seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[13:00] <k1l> iLoveJava1:please ask the mint guys since they handle the updates and repos differently
[13:00] <iLoveJava1> i thought since the package management system is apt and synaptic, the procedures would be same
[13:01] <AlanBell> White_Cat: are you using iptables-persistent?
[13:01] <iLoveJava1> could you please tell how would you get around this if this was an ubuntu pc?
[13:01] <Ben64> iLoveJava1: the repositories are different though, with different packages
[13:02] <Twinkie> I would assume that Mint and Ubuntu run very differently, so even if they told you how to fix whatever problem on ubuntu, it wouldn't work on mint. It would more likely break something than fix it
[13:03] <Twinkie> Well, it "probably" wouldn't work on mint, I should say, coz I have no idea. Just assuming.
[13:03] <iLoveJava1> let's get more generic. I have manually installed a package from tar.gz archive. I need to tell apt that i have this package and mark it as an installed package so that apt wont ask again to install it as a dependency
[13:03] <AlanBell> White_Cat: iptables-save doesn't actually save anything, it just gives you some output that you could potentially save somewhere and then restore later, the saving and restoring bit is up to you, or install iptables-persistent and it does what you would expect in the first place
[13:04] <cfhowlett> iLoveJava1, mint does mint and mint is not ubuntu.  for ubuntu support; install ubuntu.  otherwise; ask mint.
[13:04] <Twinkie> Well sed.
[13:04] <Twinkie> said* I dissapoint myself.
[13:04] <iLoveJava1> disappoint* :)
[13:04] <Twinkie> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO</3
[13:05] <k1l> iLoveJava1: again: mint does that package handling a  lot differently so ubuntu updates dont override their mint stuff. so ask them.
[13:05] <iLoveJava1> hmm
[13:09] <White_Cat> sudo apt-get install network-manager gives an error
[13:10] <sacarlson> iLoveJava1: why don't you just let it install the wanted dependancy then overwrite the ban after if that is a benifit
[13:10] <White_Cat> Err http://ubuntu.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main libsystemd-login0 amd64 204-5ubuntu20.7 404  Not Found
[13:10] <sacarlson> ban = bin
[13:11] <iLoveJava1> I already have installed jdk 8. I am on a dialup connection and ~ 100 MB is pretty large for me. Also oracle jdk 8 is not available in mint repos
[13:11] <jpds> White_Cat: apt-get update
[13:11] <White_Cat> ah yeah
[13:12] <White_Cat> weird that it didnt work
[13:12] <k1l> iLoveJava1: last time now: ask the mint guys
[13:12] <k1l> !mint | iLoveJava1
[13:13] <Unknown0BC> Greetings, i'm trying to figure out why my Alfa USB network adapter has packet loss when I use t with my Ubuntu 14 system, but not on windoze ( on the same laptop ).
[13:14] <iLoveJava1> okay k1l. I don't want your answer. i was just answering to sacarlson. I'll figure it out by myself, since there's no one smart enough to answer this right now in the mint channel. or I'd better ask during better hours
[13:20] <davidczr> caca
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:24] <zapmed> Hello, I'm using 14.04 and installed NGINX using apt-get but there is no nginx script in /etc/init.d/nginx and this breaks some automated scripts. What's strange is that 'sudo service nginx status' works flawlessly, how do I solve this?
[13:26] <White_Cat> -bash: gksudo: command not found
[13:26] <White_Cat> eh?
[13:26] <White_Cat> does gk have a special meaning or is it just a typo
[13:26] <daftykins> White_Cat: it's not on as default anymore
[13:27] <White_Cat> do I need it?
[13:27] <daftykins> White_Cat: you're supposed to use gksu / gksudo to run graphical programs as root, yes.
[13:27] <yeux2lune> gksu
[13:27] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, gksudo is to launch gui apps with su privilege.  just like gksuu
[13:27] <White_Cat> oh this is on ubuntu server
[13:27] <cfhowlett> *gksu*
[13:27] <White_Cat> thats why it was weird
[13:27] <White_Cat> I am trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[13:28] <White_Cat> gksudo gedit /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01firewall
[13:28] <White_Cat> gedit is possibly a graphical edit
[13:28] <White_Cat> I'd be using nano instead possibly
[13:28] <daftykins> White_Cat: yes... :P
[13:28] <trijntje_> White_Cat: sudo -H
[13:29] <trijntje_> instead of gksu or gksudo
[13:29] <White_Cat> ah
[13:29] <White_Cat> what does -H do?
[13:30] <trijntje_> White_Cat: it makes sure the file permissions dont get messed up I think. If you run sudo firefox all firefox config files will get root permissions, so you cant run it as a normal user anymore. With sudo -H this doesnt happen
[13:30] <White_Cat> oh
[13:30] <White_Cat> neat
[13:31] <er444> hi
[13:31] <er444> im having networking problems with vmware
[13:31] <deronnax> hi
[13:31] <er444> it just worked before, no need to do anything
[13:32] <deronnax> I'm running a django app with uwsgi on ubuntu server 12.04, and I need to set an env var for the django app (http_proxy)
[13:32] <deronnax> the uwsgi/django app run under www-data, using native ubuntu uwsgi, and I don't see where to set it
[13:33] <deronnax> people on stack overflow seem to say to make a script in /etc/profile.d
[13:34] <super_mrwu> .
[13:35] <daftykins> super_mrwu: don't do that.
[13:35] <super_mrwu> daftykins: i am just finding a person
[13:36] <daftykins> super_mrwu: that doesn't involve joining a channel and typing "." for no reason.
[13:36] <super_mrwu> daftykins: got it :)
[13:37] <cfhowlett> super_mrwu, ask your ubuntu question
[13:37] <White_Cat> So I am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo as suggested
[13:37] <theptr> hi, i have been trying to make a software raid 5 in ubuntu server i now its maked i wanted to format it with command  sudo mkfs –t ext4 /dev/md
[13:37] <theptr>  then i get a error i cant solve error :mkfs.ext2: invalid blocks 'ext4' on device '–t'
[13:37] <super_mrwu> cfhowlett: i am not using ubuntu, i am a Archlinux user. :)
[13:38] <kamhagh> Hi, after shutdowning in middle of apt-get upgrade my pc now gets stuck at splash screen, can anyone help?
[13:38] <theptr> if someone knows what wrong i would be verry happy
[13:38] <White_Cat> I did sudo sh -c "iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules" then "sudo -H nano /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01firewall". I placed the mentioned code in it and then "sudo chmod +x /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01firewall"
[13:38] <super_mrwu> theptr: how about mkfs.ext4, have u consider about it?
[13:39] <White_Cat> despite this on reboot the rules werent carried over
[13:39] <theptr> super_mrwu, can you explaine a little more im not that good with it
[13:40] <super_mrwu> theptr: have u tried using mkfs.ext4 instead of mkfs ?
[13:40] <theptr> super_mrwu, no i didnt
[13:40] <theptr> super_mrwu, i will try now
[13:40] <super_mrwu> theptr: just give it a try
[13:40] <super_mrwu> :)
[13:41] <theptr> super_mrwu, i got the same error
[13:41] <eric_> dfgdg
[13:41] <super_mrwu> theptr: mkfs.ext4 /dev/md
[13:41] <kamhagh> anyone can please help me? this is killing me
[13:42] <theptr> super_mrwu, now i get mke2fs 1.42.9 (4-Feb-2014)
[13:42] <daftykins> kamhagh: were you the one that was in here yesterday with the same issue?
[13:42] <theptr> super_mrwu, /dev/md is not a block special device.
[13:42] <kamhagh> oh hey daftykins
[13:42] <eric_> 哈囉
[13:42] <kamhagh> i encoutred some problems
[13:42] <super_mrwu> 什么
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !cn | eric,
[13:43] <kamhagh> you see, i said i want to upgrade to 14.10, i tought this update is lts, but found out its not, so i changed my mind, i want lts!
[13:43] <kamhagh> :|
[13:43] <theptr> super_mrwu, now it says proceed anyway sould i press Y ?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> kamhagh, reinstall 14.04.1
[13:44] <kamhagh> cfhowlett: but i have important apts on it :( is it the only way?
[13:44] <super_mrwu> theptr: which is the block device you want to deal with?
[13:44] <theptr> super_mrwu, md0
[13:44] <kamhagh> wait, i might have an clonezilla :D
[13:44] <super_mrwu> theptr: mkfs.ext4 /dev/md0
[13:45] <kamhagh> i will still lose some data and some prorgams i wrote (around 500mb :|) but still ! thanks anyway xD
[13:45] <kamhagh> cfhowlett: if i restore from clonezilla, will i have any slowdowns or something?
[13:45] <White_Cat> 入_入
[13:46] <White_Cat> Ben64 I am still strugling with this :/
[13:46] <k1l> kamhagh: you can start a live usb/dvd system and safe some important data if you want
[13:46] <cfhowlett> kamhagh, depends on what you cloned.  but after you restore, go to 14.04.1
[13:46] <super_mrwu> eric: 中文人
[13:46] <super_mrwu> eric_: 中文人
[13:46] <super_mrwu> :D
[13:46] <kamhagh> i will give it a try if it was slow i will install everything again. thanks anyway
[13:46] <theptr> super_mrwu, thanx it worked
[13:46] <kamhagh> cfhowlett: ok, thanks :) going to do it now
[13:47] <super_mrwu> theptr: anyway, if you want to format a blockdev with ext4 format, just practise this in a similar way.:D
[13:54] <theptr> hi every one i want to create a vpn on ubuntu 14.04 i used the manual on ask.ubuntu now i have the ca.crt server.crt and server.key . now i want to use it in ms windows is that possible ?
[13:55] <super_mrwu> theptr: i havent use M$ for a long time, but i am sure it works
[13:57] <daftykins> theptr: you would've been better off choosing a guide that helps you through it explicitly for Windows usage
[14:06] <nszceta> what are the benefits of linux containers over a chroot?
[14:10] <eb0t> what is a linux container
[14:10] <eb0t> sorry wrong tab
[14:10] <eb0t> ah you mean in virtual box
[14:11] <nszceta> no
[14:11] <Chetic> I'm on a fresh ubuntu server 12.04 install, and get this when I try to install nfs-kernel-server: http://pastebin.com/q5QzpgpY Anybody know what this means?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Chetic, install nfs-common first
[14:14] <Chetic> BluesKaj: that gets the same error
[14:14] <daftykins> Chetic: why are you using aptitude? did you run "sudo apt-get update" first?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> ok , make sure your packages are all up to date by updating and upgrading then dist-upgrade
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Chetic, ^
[14:15] <Chetic> ah update gives hash sum mismatches
[14:15] <Chetic> not sure what to do with that
[14:15] <daftykins> Chetic: sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:17] <Chetic> I'll still be on 12.04 though right?
[14:17] <cfhowlett> Chetic, 12.04.5
[14:18] <Chetic> yeah
[14:18] <Chetic> good
[14:18] <Chetic> still getting hash sum mismatches
[14:18] <Chetic> and the same error
[14:18] <cfhowlett> Chetic, change to main mirror
[14:19] <Chetic> I haven't changed the default mirror
[14:19] <adrian_1908> I'd like to run a minimalist ubuntu distro for the sole purpose of building libraries and such (so I don't pollute my main Desktop with development libs), no other productivity needed. Is there something you guys could recommend?
[14:19] <daftykins> Chetic: pastebin the error please.
[14:19] <eb0t> nszceta: they are interesting things..those containers...and from what i jsut rea
[14:19] <daftykins> !paste | Chetic
[14:20] <Chetic> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/4v5wK4UX
[14:20] <Istalantar> Hi everyone, on Windows there is a key-combination (Windows-key + Shift + Left/right-arrow-key), which moves the active window between my two monitors. Does anyone know if there is something like this on ubuntu?
[14:21] <daftykins> Chetic: yeah use "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and replace all se.archive addresses for the main archive. instead
[14:21] <solsTiCe> hi. I can dd the iso to my usb thumb to create a bootable key, irght ?
[14:22] <Chetic> daftykins: which one is the main archive?
[14:22] <theptr> super_mrwu, yes i could but i cant find i way
[14:22] <Chetic> swedish mirrors are not to be trusted? :p
[14:22] <daftykins> Chetic: like i just said, change http://se.archive.ubuntu.com for http://archive.ubuntu.com
[14:23] <daftykins> Chetic: i don't know what's up with that, but do this to get aroudn it
[14:23] <Kartagis> solsTiCe: yes
[14:23] <daftykins> Chetic: oh actually hang on
[14:23] <daftykins> Chetic: did you make any changes yet?
[14:24] <Chetic> daftykins: yes, removed se.
[14:24] <Chetic> looks like it worked too
[14:24] <Chetic> no hash sum errors
[14:24] <BluesKaj> Chetic, yes i find it hard to believe that swedish repos aren't up to date
[14:24] <Chetic> and now it install
[14:24] <Chetic> s
[14:24] <daftykins> i think it had something to do with aptitude usage
[14:25] <Chetic> well I never
[14:25] <Chetic> yeah, I pretty much use aptitude because I can't remember the command for searching with apt-get
[14:25] <BluesKaj> some debian left over habits I bet]
[14:26] <ag_> ag_help
[14:26] <Chetic> thanks daftykins! that was a tricky one
[14:26] <daftykins> no worries, i think i should've suggested something else first though
[14:27] <daftykins> same result either way though :>
[14:29] <Sluimers> Hi there! Can anyone teach me how to use remote desktop? I'm trying to use Remmina Remote Desktop Client to remotely connect to another desktop, but I first want to try out if I can even connect to my own desktop if that's possible.
[14:29] <Sluimers> I tried connecting to localhost
[14:29] <ag_help> hello all , I have a bit of of a complex thing here :( , and am confused !!! , I have 2 Electronic-devices that communicate over MAC ( raw sockets ) with an application , 1 at a time with the app, I setup 2 LXC Vmachines to run 2 instances of the app, and all is good, when i turn on 1 device , it works fine, but when i turn the other, Only 1 is able to communicate with 1 of the LXC instances (last one), and only when i join my phys. interface with veth of the i
[14:29] <ag_help> nstances .
[14:30] <ag_help> can any1 help me with a situation like that !?
[14:30] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I am using kubuntu-desktop with x2go-server. Everything is great but the default screen resolution is way too large for new users who log on until they change it manually. Where can I set the default screen resolution?
[14:30] <Sluimers> and it says "
[14:30] <Sluimers> -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via "
[14:30] <Sluimers> whoops
[14:30] <Sluimers> wrong copy paste
[14:30] <Sluimers> it says: Unable to connect to RDP server 127.0.0.1
[14:30] <daftykins> Sluimers: you can't remotely connect to localhost.
[14:31] <geirha> input the ip or hostname of the windows terminal server you want to connect to
[14:31] <Sluimers> daftykins, can I remotely connect to another desktop halfway across the world?
[14:31] <daftykins> Sluimers: what's it running? what protocol?
[14:32] <Sluimers> daftykins, It's running Ubuntu, I have no idea what protocol it can run. It's basically a friend's computer who needs my assistance.
[14:33] <daftykins> Sluimers: ok, teamviewer would make more sense then
[14:33]  * Sluimers looks up teamviewer
[14:35] <geirha> Sluimers: If your friend has enabled desktop sharing in his ubuntu, it means you can connect to it with VNC
[14:35] <Sluimers> geirha, but not RDP?
[14:35] <daftykins> RDP is Windows' protocol.
[14:36] <Sluimers> Thanks for clearing that up guys. So VNC is Linux protocol?
[14:36] <SonikkuAmerica> NOW I remember why I don't use Konversation...
[14:36] <daftykins> Sluimers: it's multiple, but it's not secure because it sends passwords in plain text. so teamviewer is still the better option
[14:36] <compdoc> Sluimers, you can install xrdp on ubuntu and connect with windows rdp clients
[14:37] <compdoc> and you can install vnc on windows
[14:37] <lapion> is there anyway to power off and on usb devices using either proc or sys ? So the device can cool down.
[14:44] <solsTiCe> say I want to install with a /, a /home and a swap. Is 20Gb enough for / (root) ?
[14:44] <daftykins> 20GB yes
[14:44] <solsTiCe> ok
[14:47] <iceroot> Sluimers: the best is x2go but that is not screensharing, there is nothing better from the performance, 2nd best is nx, then vnc
[14:47] <bwk> when rythmbox and totem look for plugins to play videos I get an error saying "an unhandable error occured"
[14:47] <iceroot> x2go is like rdp a new session instead of connecting to an existing
[14:49] <LogicalDash> On 14.04. Nvidia drivers were working yesterday. Today, if I try to boot with an nvidia driver installed, I get the graphics configuration error dialog.
[14:53] <daftykins> LogicalDash: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:57] <HappyNewYear13> what's the meaning of a "backported kernel"?
[14:58] <Pici> HappyNewYear13: It has been copied from a newer release of Ubuntu.
[14:59] <HappyNewYear13> pici, so those 3.17 inux kernels available online are "backported"?
[15:00] <Pici> HappyNewYear13: if they are present in the older releases repositories, then yes.
[15:00] <HappyNewYear13> pici do you recommend me to install 3.17 kernel or wait? what do you usually do?
[15:01] <TimeVirus> howdy fellow Ubuntuers o/
[15:01] <daftykins> TimeVirus: hello, got a question?
[15:01] <Pici> HappyNewYear13: I like having the latest versions for things.  If it doesn't work out for you, you can always use grub to boot to an older kernel.
[15:01] <TimeVirus> not at the moment thanks
[15:01] <HappyNewYear13> Pici, cool
[15:02] <TimeVirus> my question would be better received in the #Perl channel
[15:02] <TimeVirus> heh
[15:06] <keles> !ping
[15:07] <darkfire-admin> hello there
[15:08] <reisio> 'lo
[15:10] <HappyNewYear13> so i been installing uninstalling pulse and alsa to improve my sound and it deleted my appeareance icon in my systems settings
[15:11] <HappyNewYear13> i have a script that changes my background daily according to astronomy pic of the day and now i noticed it hasnt worked, and now i try to check my appeareance settings and the icon is gone
[15:12] <reisio> HappyNewYear13: probably unrelated
[15:12] <HappyNewYear13> my script doesnt function anymore. this command gsettings: set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri "file:///$APOD_FILE_TODAY"
[15:13] <HappyNewYear13> reisio, it has to do because when installing uninstalling pulse some windows appear transparent as if i had a memory resources problem which is not the case
[15:13] <muh-die-kuh> Hi
[15:13] <samthewildone> I'm started to get annoyed with Gnome Ubuntu.
[15:13] <samthewildone> Almost every application I'm using is crashing...
[15:13] <reisio> HappyNewYear13: maybe, I just doubt it has to do with pulse
[15:13] <reisio> samthewildone: well it's not a very mature codebase
[15:14] <samthewildone> Openshot will crash randomly, blender would crash when rendering....
[15:14] <reisio> samthewildone: try Xfce
[15:14] <muh-die-kuh> I'm trying to make an unattended install cd for Precise. Most works fine, but I can't make it autoselect the en_US keyboard layout. Any hints on what to set?
[15:14] <reisio> muh-die-kuh: hi
[15:14] <samthewildone> reisio, what do you mean "mature" ?
[15:14] <daftykins> muh-die-kuh: bit late to work on something like that for precise ;)
[15:14] <samthewildone> reisio, hasn't gnome been around for ages or it is the ubuntu gnome itself.
[15:14] <samthewildone> reisio, I might just go switch back to unity.
[15:15] <reisio> samthewildone: "Fully developed; grown up in terms of physical appearance, behaviour or thinking; ripe." — http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mature
[15:15] <muh-die-kuh> daftykins: I know - still wanna automate setting up these systems :)
[15:15] <reisio> samthewildone: they scrapped a lot of code for version 3
[15:15] <samthewildone> reisio, smart... eh.
[15:15] <reisio> samthewildone: the project is mature, the code is not
[15:15] <samthewildone> reisio, though I was having crashes with unity itself.
[15:15] <reisio> also it's lost its leader, for whatever that's worth
[15:15] <reisio> well compiz is pretty buggy itself :)
[15:15] <cfhowlett> reisio, ?EH?  lost its leader?  got a link?
[15:15] <reisio> and it doesn't help that, being an accelerated wm, it relies more on the graphics driver not being buggy
[15:16] <samthewildone> I'll see if I can hang on till the end of the week... I've got work to do and don't feel like re-installing
[15:16] <reisio> cfhowlett: de Icaza
[15:16] <reisio> samthewildone: :)
[15:16] <samthewildone> reisio, pray for me... :D
[15:16] <samthewildone> thanks though
[15:16] <samthewildone> reisio, I thought it was just my computer hardware acting up.
[15:17] <reisio> could be :)
[15:17] <reisio> probably just a software issue, though
[15:18] <samthewildone> reisio, hardware is kinda new...
[15:18] <samthewildone> reisio, about ~2 years now...
[15:18] <reisio> hrmm?
[15:18] <samthewildone> gpu is brand new though.
[15:18] <samthewildone> also ssd is brand new.
[15:19] <reisio> oh? If you don't want'm, send'm over here
[15:19] <HappyNewYear13> reisio, got my apearance icon back installaing  unity-control-center-signon
[15:19] <reisio> HappyNewYear13: gj
[15:22] <Nicolas_> Hi everyone
[15:22] <reisio> hi Nic
[15:23] <Nicolas_> Perhaps it is not the best place... but I am looking for help wit C++
[15:23] <hspcd> Hi all - we're looking into commercial and FOSS solutions for centralized user management and role based access (we use Active Directory).  Does anyone have any significant experience with this who can share some first-hand knowledge and/or recommend FOSS solutions?
[15:25] <OerHeks> Nicolas_, join ##c or ##c++
[15:26] <Nicolas_> I have already check on C++
[15:26] <Nicolas_> Nobody would answer though :P
[15:26] <Nicolas_> Let's give C a run
[15:26] <Nicolas_> Thanks!
[15:29] <Wes-_> Doesn't ask for C++ help in a C channel if you don't like being told to eff off :)
[15:30] <TimeVirus> I've got a motherboard that uses the 771 CPU socket - I've been DIEING to get my paws on a Xeon processor so I can virtualize like a muuug - I found a 5472 Xeon 4 core for $40ish and am thinking it would look really good in my desktop as a rather significant CPU upgrade - thoughts?
[15:31] <reisio> #friendly-coders
[15:33] <nszceta> who here uses GlusterFs
[15:33] <daftykins> TimeVirus: yeah, try a relevant channel like ##hardware
[15:33] <TimeVirus> cool
[15:34] <TimeVirus> thanks for the channel suggestion
[15:43] <nszceta> how does glusterfs deal with random node sizes? like lets say I have 3 quotas, each of which is on a separate VM. 10, 20, and 30 GB.
[15:45] <elchivo> Does anyone know if system76's Jackal Pro fits in a standard 19" rack?
[15:46] <genii> elchivo: Yes, it does. It's a 2U, 19"
[15:46] <reisio> elchivo: I'm sure they'd get into trouble calling something a '1U' or '2U' if it wasn't of a particular set of dimensions
[15:47] <elchivo> 1U said 17.24"--new to rackmounts, and I wanted to double check before spending unnecessarily
[15:49] <genii> elchivo: The mounting holes are what's 19", the unit width itself can be anything less than that
[15:49] <reisio> elchivo: sure
[15:50] <elchivo> much obliged, genii, reisio
[15:54] <TimeVirus> Love it when my Ubuntu boots! Running it from a USB hdd is a bit tricky for this lappy
[15:56] <hyde> Hi, if I upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04, do I need to go through 13.10, or can I upgrade directly to the LTS?
[15:57] <xangua> hyde: go through 13.10
[15:57] <xangua> or fresh install 14.04, faster
[15:57] <dhill5156> My HP Gen9 Server doens't detect the RAID5 array i created. Does anyone know what driver i need to choose/use?
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> hyde  no, only from LTS to LTS, you'd have to go through 13.10
[15:57] <dhill5156> on version 12.04
[15:57] <daftykins> hyde: i'd agree with the clean install approach
[15:57] <genii> hyde: Anthing not an LTS you vae to sequentially upgrade
[15:57] <Prezident> wich terminal do you guys like most?
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> dhill5156  there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:58] <dhill5156> thx
[15:58] <cfhowlett> hyde, LTS to LTS is doable
[15:58] <hyde> thanks
[15:58] <OerHeks> !poll
[15:59] <reisio> Prezident: the one with... commands
[15:59] <OerHeks> mouseless one reisio?
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> Prezident  i prefer the black with white text
[16:00] <reisio> mm, text, yeah
[16:01] <reisio> that one is good, too
[16:01] <OerHeks> lots of choice Prezident, which one do you like most?
[16:01] <rafi_> hi all
[16:02] <laude> I just bought a new dell inspiron 3541 with AMD Radeon r2 graphics processor and 4GB ram. I installed ubuntu 14.04 on it through UEFI mode and it seems to be running extremely slow. Also the resolution is stuck at 800x600 and the graphics drivers it installed were gallium in place of radeon. I searched the internet and was unable to find any fix for my problem, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, laude
[16:02] <OerHeks> hi rafi_
[16:03] <laude> I just bought a new dell inspiron 3541 with AMD Radeon r2 graphics processor and 4GB ram. I installed ubuntu 14.04 on it through UEFI mode and it seems to be running extremely slow. Also the resolution is stuck at 800x600 and the graphics drivers it installed were gallium in place of radeon. I searched the internet and was unable to find any fix for my problem, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, laude
[16:04] <ilk> woe is me I cant ngricd FAILS start on Ubuntu box wat do? i copy conf from working box HALP HALP
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> !patience > laude
[16:05] <daftykins> laude: you probably need to install the fglrx graphics driver
[16:05] <laude> Thank you daftykins, I will try it out now
[16:07] <OerHeks> ilk, start ngricd with the -n option from terminal, what errors do you get??
[16:08] <shibboleth>  am getting tearing on xbmcubuntu with the latest fglrx. I've tried flicking --sync-vsync and --sync-video but I still get one line of tearing when there is a lot of motion
[16:08] <shibboleth> anyone have a trick/setting up their sleeve? the FOSS radeon driver kinda works but the image/video is waaay better with fglrx
[16:08] <OerHeks> ilk, did you make your own certificate and add the right keyfilepassword to /etc/ngircd/ngircd.conf  ??
[16:10] <ilk> no errors...i see it open in TOP but then it disappears let me try -n | no i didnt make cert, | yes works on Debian and Kali... brb
[16:10] <Marcos> afternoon ... I want to install virt-viewer only to allow graphical access through X Window on my Ubuntu VM's .... is there anything I need to know prior install? I`m not an expert on Linux, that's why I'm asking before I started doing things and need to come back or start over ... Thanks in advance!
[16:14] <ilk> OerHeks: ok well thats what it was, the SSL cert and jey is missing,
[16:14] <ilk> thank you
[16:15] <OerHeks> ilk have fun
[16:16] <zykotick9> Marcos: it appears virt-viewer is just a VNC client.  Are you using virt-manager as your VM solution (virtualbox may have a vnc option as well?)?  But any VNC client should work for this purpose...
[16:20] <laude> I am having problems installing fglrx driver, how do i proceed
[16:21] <rubiksmomo> laude: what kind of problems? Do you have some log or error message?
[16:22] <Marcos> zykotick9: no, will use oVirt but in some way I 'was told' to use VirtViewer to 'manage' the oVirt functions ... like a 'dashboard' ....... VirtManager has something like it ?
[16:24] <ihusa> phunyguy, I cant be bothered. you learn something from what I am angry about
[16:24] <Marcos> that's what I read about VirtViewer: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/virt-viewer.1.html
[16:25] <d22009> team viewer
[16:25] <laude> rubiksmomo, I  tried sudo apt-get install fglrx and it did not work
[16:27] <ReScO> what is my FQDN if my PTR record is pushforward.nl?
[16:27] <zykotick9> Marcos: sorry, i've never even heard of oVirt before.  best of luck.
[16:27] <daftykins> ReScO: servername.domain.tld
[16:27] <ReScO> daftykins: so i can name my server e.g. taco
[16:28] <ReScO> but my PTR is pushforward.nl
[16:28] <Marcos> zykotick9: hehe tks
[16:28] <ReScO> so that means my FQDN is taco.pushforward.nl?
[16:28] <daftykins> ReScO: yes
[16:34] <hwilde> how to make the workspace switcher only require One click   (right now it requires double click and is very annoying)
[16:35] <hwilde> how to make the workspace switcher only require One click   (right now it requires double click and is very annoying)
[16:36] <hwilde> how to make it so if I click the Terminal icon on the left it opens in current workspace ?
[16:36] <iceroot> hwilde: you mean switching the workspaces from the desktop? just ctrl + alt + left/right arrow instead of using the mouse
[16:37] <hwilde> right now if I switch to workspace2 and try to open a new terminal, it opens in original workspace
[16:38] <Yellowberry> Hi!
[16:39] <pauljw> hwilde, right click the terminal icon and select "new terminal"
[16:40] <hwilde> pauljw, why is that necessary??
[16:40] <hwilde> I left click on the icon and nothing happens what good is that
[16:40] <hwilde> obviously I want a new terminal
[16:42] <pauljw> hwilde, no idea why, it just IS how it works here.
[16:43] <linocisco> checking uuid/uuid.h usability... no
[16:43] <linocisco> checking uuid/uuid.h presence... no
[16:43] <linocisco> checking for uuid/uuid.h... no
[16:43] <linocisco> checking for uuid_generate_random in -le2fs-uuid... no
[16:43] <linocisco> checking for uuid_generate_random... no
[16:43] <linocisco> configure: error: *** uuid support not found (this typically means the uuid development package is missing)
[16:43] <unopaste> linocisco you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:44] <hwilde> pauljw, you mean it DOESNT work
[16:44] <hwilde> if I am in workspace1 and click icon, it opens a terminal.   then I switch to workspace2 and click icon, it does nothing!
[16:44] <linocisco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9058239/
[16:46] <phunyguy> linocisco: did you install build-essential?
[16:46] <phunyguy> if so, then uuid is a dependent library most likely.
[16:46] <linocisco> phunyguy, it is problem on busybox.but busybox has no one to answer
[16:47] <phunyguy> ...
[16:47] <pauljw> hwilde, works for me, in wks1 and clk icon, terminal opens.  wks2, clk icon, takes me back to already open terminal, right click and select new terminal i have a terminal in each workspace.
[16:47] <phunyguy> linocisco: in ubuntu?
[16:47] <linocisco> phunyguy, in QNAP
[16:47] <phunyguy> linocisco: then please do not ask for support here.
[16:47] <phunyguy> this is for #ubuntu support only.
[16:48] <DwarfFromWest> Hi
[16:48] <DwarfFromWest> Is there some way I can format my USB drive WITHOUT using gparted?
[16:48] <linocisco> phunyguy, if ubuntu has problem at kernel or boot, it is downgraded to busybox as much as I understand
[16:48] <phunyguy> linocisco: that is not relevant
[16:48] <linocisco> phunyguy, that is why I am hoping ubuntu guys know that
[16:49] <phunyguy> sorry, please find a more appropriate channel.
[16:51] <DwarfFromWest> I can't delete the files manually :/
[16:51] <phunyguy> DwarfFromWest: why is gparted not an option, if I may ask?
[16:51] <DwarfFromWest> It's a read-only file system. Is it perhaps a permission issue?
[16:51] <DwarfFromWest> phunyguy: I'm on a slow connection, and gparted might take a while to install.
[16:52] <phunyguy> DwarfFromWest: you can use fdisk.
[16:52] <phunyguy> from command line
[16:52] <genii> DwarfFromWest: fdisk maybe for the partitioning, if you don't mind CLI
[16:52] <DwarfFromWest> Okay, how do I use it?
[16:53] <DwarfFromWest> `fdisk -l` gives me this: "/dev/sdb5            2048     3905535     1951744    6  FAT16"
[16:55] <DwarfFromWest> phunyguy: Never mind. I have gparted installed. Now?
[16:55] <oopooroz> /
[16:55] <phunyguy> DwarfFromWest: where are you running into trouble?
[16:56] <DwarfFromWest> phunyguy: The device isn't listed in GParted.
[16:56] <linelevel> Hi all. After upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 on my Thinkpad T410, I can no longer resume from suspend. It starts to resume, but the screen remains blank. Pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1 works (I see the prompt), but going back to Ctrl+Alt+F7 just brings me back to a blank screen. Note that I'm using the Nouveau drivers, because the proprietary Nvidia drivers have even worse problems.
[16:57] <DwarfFromWest> fdisk -l says the USB is /dev/sdb5, but in GParted, /dev/sdb5 is 'linux-swap'. Why is that?
[16:57] <phunyguy> DwarfFromWest: strange
[16:57] <phunyguy> DwarfFromWest: anything in `dmesg | tail` ?
[16:57] <phunyguy> (when you unplug and replug USB drive)
[16:58] <DwarfFromWest> [16505.024674] FAT-fs (sdc5): error, fat_bmap_cluster: request beyond EOF (i_pos 7691)
[16:58] <DwarfFromWest> That repeated a few times ^
[16:59] <phunyguy> you may have some filesystem errors
[16:59] <Cyllpher> Not sure how to word this question -- so my example will be, if I browse to my linux machine from windows i can see my user directory (set that up in samba and it's working perfectly), however if I browse to it from my linux VM (with same username/password) I can't see that user directory. Any way to make that work without delving into LDAP or NIS?
[16:59] <phunyguy> make sure the drive is not mounted, and perform a fsck, please
[16:59] <phunyguy> !fsck
[17:00] <DwarfFromWest> Oops. I didn't choose the correct disk from the dropdown on top-right.
[17:00] <DwarfFromWest> Unmounted, and there's a Format To option. Cool.
[17:00] <phunyguy> DwarfFromWest: yeah I get that, but the read-only thing is caused by a bad filesystem
[17:00] <phunyguy> so if you want to format great, but it may not be needed
[17:01] <DwarfFromWest> phunyguy: that's fine :)
[17:01] <phunyguy> ok cool.  Good luck.
[17:01] <DwarfFromWest> How long does it normally take though? It's just a 2 GB USB drive.
[17:01] <DwarfFromWest> It still says "Operation pending".
[17:01] <phunyguy> that really depends on many factors
[17:02] <DwarfFromWest> Like what?
[17:04] <Helping_Hands> hiyo, i am unable to download ubuntu for intel architecture.  On they download page, it says in the link amd64, and when i try to boot it says x86-64 cpu required but only detected i686.
[17:05] <daftykins> Helping_Hands: you need to use 32-bit
[17:06] <Helping_Hands> daftykins, I see
[17:06] <daftykins> Helping_Hands: amd64 runs on 64-bit capable CPUs of both intel and AMD, but yours is not 64-bit capable :)
[17:06] <Helping_Hands> It says for machine with 2GB of RAM for 32 bit.  I have 6GB.
[17:06] <Helping_Hands> @ daftykins
[17:07] <Helping_Hands> daftykins, link >>  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[17:07] <daftykins> Helping_Hands: i don't need to see the download page :) what's your CPU?
[17:07] <daftykins> exact model please
[17:07] <Helping_Hands> ok let me look it up
[17:08] <Helping_Hands> i5-2450M
[17:08] <Helping_Hands> @ daftykins
[17:08] <phunyguy> that is a 64 bit CPU, no?
[17:08] <daftykins> ok that's definitely a 64-bit capable processor so something is seriously wrong here
[17:08] <Helping_Hands> phunyguy, I think so
[17:09] <phunyguy> Helping_Hands: is 64bit disabled in the BIOS somehow?  Is that even possible?
[17:09] <daftykins> Helping_Hands: what kind of system is this?
[17:09] <Helping_Hands> phunyguy, I should mention this.  I am creating a VM
[17:09] <phunyguy> lol
[17:09] <Helping_Hands> using VBox
[17:09] <Helping_Hands> lol
[17:09] <daftykins> oh for the love of tux
[17:09] <daftykins> you only tell us that now? :P
[17:09] <phunyguy> you need to enable VM extensions
[17:10] <phunyguy> in the BIOS
[17:10] <daftykins> Helping_Hands: look for Intel virtualisation enable/disable
[17:10] <Helping_Hands> daftykins, you guys are great + phunyguy , ill reboot and look for virtualization enabled
[17:10] <daftykins> Helping_Hands: no point installing 64-bit in a VM though
[17:10] <phunyguy> daftykins: why not?
[17:10] <phunyguy> daftykins: it will actually run better
[17:11] <phunyguy> (hence VM extensions)
[17:11] <daftykins> save RAM + disk by sticking to 32-bit, then you can run more
[17:11] <Helping_Hands> daftykins, i maybe running 64 bit malware
[17:11] <daftykins> only the host OS needs to be 64-bit capable to address the 6GB RAM
[17:11] <daftykins> lol?
[17:11] <daftykins> why do you want to run malware at all :(
[17:11] <phunyguy> le sigh
[17:11] <phunyguy> I think he means Windows.
[17:12] <Helping_Hands> I am studying Malware Analysis and creating various VMs
[17:12] <cfhowlett> phunyguy, we can only hope
[17:12] <phunyguy> oh, scratch that then :P
[17:12] <Helping_Hands> :D
[17:12] <eb0t> hey i just tried that i3wm on ubuntu and its ridiculous...most of it is ok
[17:12] <phunyguy> eb0t: do you have a support question in relation to it?
[17:12] <eb0t> but when you make full screen on the browser it doesnt show your bookmarks
[17:12] <phunyguy> eb0t: because some folks in -offtopic use it and they would love to talk about it.
[17:13] <SPeck84> Hiya
[17:13] <daftykins> hello. got a question?
[17:13] <SPeck84> Does Enyone know where can I find some java experts???
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> what's i3wm?
[17:13] <daftykins> SPeck84: some java channels would be a good start, shockingly
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> oh, wm, a window manager
[17:13] <daftykins> !alis | SPeck84
[17:14] <SPeck84> i know I need a guide to get one
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> SPeck84  ubottu is your guide
[17:15] <phunyguy> SPeck84: /join ##java
[17:15] <SPeck84> thx
[17:15] <phunyguy> if it won't let you in, then you need to register
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> hey guys
[17:15] <phunyguy> ActionParsnip: hello!
[17:16] <SPeck84> Cool the #java need invitation
[17:17] <phunyguy> SPeck84: yeah, probably devs only
[17:17] <NotRoot> msg nickserv
[17:17] <phunyguy> as in the folks that make java the language, not code in java
[17:17] <SPeck84> I will be do
[17:18] <zykotick9> !register | SPeck84
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> SPeck84: you just need to be identified
[17:18] <phunyguy> ActionParsnip: he eneds ##java
[17:18] <phunyguy> needs*
[17:18] <phunyguy> not #java
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> then needs to be registered and identified
[17:18] <phunyguy> I googled it, and that is the apparent situation.
[17:19] <NotRoot> leave #ubuntu
[17:19] <nszceta> can I create, set up, and run linux containers on openvz VPS hosts
[17:20] <Helping_Hands> phunyguy and daftykins , I had selected 32 bit Ubuntu in my Vbox.  My error.  I also enabled Virtualization in BIOS.  Now it booted.  Thank you gentlemen
[17:20] <phunyguy> you're welcome.
[17:21] <Helping_Hands> So when is one your geniouses going to write a video game support for Ubuntu? :D  I will ditch windows then :D
[17:21] <daftykins> Helping_Hands: games? hah, utter waste of time
[17:21] <daftykins> but Steam is pretty much getting there now
[17:21] <upwardindex> When I do in shell “foo | bar | baz &; echo $!” I get a PID that is not the same as “ps aux | grep foo”. Any way to get the right PID so that I can kill that spawned process ?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> Helping_Hands  this channel is for support, not for development
[17:22] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: running games != dev support
[17:22] <mdoge> upwardindex: try #bash
[17:22] <upwardindex> mdoge: thanks!
[17:22] <mdoge> :)
[17:24] <Helping_Hands> I think Ubuntu or Linux in general will gain HUGE market share if it supported modern 3d video games
[17:25] <JonathanD> Helping_Hands: you can play a decent number of games on ubuntu presently, certainly more than a year or two ago.
[17:25] <cfhowlett> Helping_Hands, steamOS
[17:26] <xangua> Helping_Hands: you mean if game companies support linux? there is nothing preventing them from doing it is it?
[17:27] <Helping_Hands> :0)
[17:27] <Helping_Hands> Thank you all
[17:28] <Helping_Hands> have a great day/night
[17:28] <dispy> Hi. export GUROBI_HOME="/home/some_path/dev/gurobi/linux64" << if I put this line in .profile, my gui doesn't start up any more though I couldn't find someething in the log. Anything obvious to this problem=?
[17:30] <hwilde> dispy, on command line type   "locate gurobi"
[17:30] <nszceta> can I create and run linux containers within an openvz VPS?
[17:31] <jpds> nszceta: It's openvz already like a container?
[17:31] <jpds> nszceta: I mean, it shares the host's kernel.
[17:31] <nszceta> yes, container within the openvz container
[17:31] <jpds> nszceta: You need to go DEEPER.
[17:31] <nszceta> LXC container within OpenVZ container
[17:31] <nszceta> we must go deeper
[17:31] <hwilde> that's what she said @ jpds
[17:32] <nszceta> I do not want to order an openvz vps and find out it is not possible
[17:32] <dispy> hwilde: this isn't from a package but a local installation
[17:32] <hwilde> dispy, yes so the 'locate' command will tell you where the path is
[17:32] <hwilde> dispy, http://www.gurobi.com/documentation/5.6/quick-start-guide/installation_linux
[17:32] <dispy> and it must be possible to set an env variable without the gui freezing. I just tried - no, it doesn't ;-)
[17:33] <jpds> nszceta: Only one way to find out really.
[17:33] <nusr> em can someone help with python
[17:33] <SuperTeece> Alright, I'm having trouble finding this problem on the line. I have a USB wifi adapter on 14.10. When I suspend/resume, the adapter still shows in lsusb AND iwconfig but does not show in the network menu up by the clock in unity. The only way i can get it to show there again is to unplug, reboot, and plug into a different USB port.
[17:33] <dispy> you see, I am stuck at setting the env variables because my gui won't start up If I set them ;-)
[17:33] <nszceta> jpds: damn it
[17:34] <hwilde> dispy, does everything work when you set it via cmd line ?
[17:34] <Pici> nszceta: You should be able to run docker on any vps.
[17:34] <nszceta> LXC, not docker
[17:34] <nszceta> and OpenVZ != KVM
[17:34] <Pici> nszceta: not sure then, ask the lxc folks?
[17:34] <nszceta> makes sense
[17:34] <Pici> nusr: programming help?
[17:34] <hwilde> nszceta, did u try it and get some error ?
[17:34] <HelenaKitty> I currently have my system doing automatic backups per night. It backs up the entire home dir. I wanted to know that when Unity 8 comes out will the backups break the system or will the configuration files within the backups for Unity 7 be compatible with Unity 8?
[17:35] <dispy> hwilde: yes
[17:35] <nszceta> I don't want to blindly order an OpenVZ VPS!
[17:35] <HelenaKitty> Another question... how to I make Empathy automatically available when I log into the system?
[17:35] <nszceta> that's why I'm asking if anyone has LXC working on any OpenVZ VPS
[17:35] <jpds> nszceta: Set up OpenVZ on a spare box?
[17:36] <hwilde> dispy, try to put it in ~/.bashrc    and then type  "source ~/.bashrc"
[17:36] <nusr> Pici: yeah #python requires a registered nick. it's some code i got off the internet but it doesn't work.. and others have asked online without a solution. and the author is not replying...just index out of range for the wikipedia parse..just need some guidance for lxml.html....i can probably do it using another parser
[17:36] <Pici> nusr: Then you'll need to register/identify to join there. It is a very easy process.
[17:36] <hwilde> nusr,   /msg nickserv register
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> HelenaKitty  use rsync for your backups, it's DE independent ... and add empathy to your startup applications
[17:37] <nszceta> alright, someone on ramnode irc responded: "it is not possible.  use KVM"
[17:37] <nszceta> so there's that... lol
[17:37] <dispy> hwilde: works in the console
[17:37] <nusr> Pici, hwilde: ok thanks..when personality develops enough to think of a nick
[17:37] <dispy> shall I try to logout/login now? ^^^
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> nszceta  asketh and thou shalt be answered :)
[17:38] <Luyin> hi, my usb-ports are suddenly no longer reacting to mouse movements. I have tried all three ports, the mouse doesn't react anywhere. another mouse I used for testing did the same thing. what could I do?
[17:38] <hwilde> dispy, logout/login only reloads bashrc, same as source
[17:38] <HelenaKitty> MonkeyDust, You didn't read the question and then you gave me an unrelated answer. I didn't ask how to backup, I asked about configure file compatibility between two Unity versions!
[17:38] <Wachu> s
[17:38] <dispy> hwilde right, but something must be wrong. .profile is executed on startup too, if I copy it into the command line, it works fine ,so why does .profile crash my gui then?
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> HelenaKitty  i suggested rsync, so you don't have to worry about that compatibility
[17:40] <mekhami> what tool can i use to easily reformat my hard drive in ubuntu? i'm leaving my job and want this to be a clean install with none of my personal information on it... i
[17:40] <hwilde> dispy, the generic answer is,  .profile is loaded at login,  and .bashrc is loaded when the terminal is opened... but I dunno why one would fail and one would succeed, especially if you are just doing an export.
[17:40] <daftykins> mekhami: 'dd' to zero fill it :P
[17:41] <hwilde> !shredder
[17:41] <hwilde> no bot today?
[17:41] <HelenaKitty> MonkeyDust, I don't need backup suggestion as that wasn't the question at all. I want to know about the compatibility between Unity 7 and Unity 8. I need to know if I will have to convert my Unity 7 configuration files to Unity 8 or will they just work.
[17:41] <Pici> hwilde: no factoid called !shredder
[17:41] <hwilde> huh.
[17:42] <hwilde> mekhami, command line "shred"
[17:43] <dispy> hwilde: thanks
[17:43] <TimeVirus> any idea why Firefox cant see the internet but, obviously, HexChat can?
[17:43] <hwilde> TimeVirus, unclick "Work Offline"
[17:43] <TimeVirus> lol
[17:43] <TimeVirus> ooooooooooook i'll see if thats it!
[17:44] <hwilde> happens to me all the time.
[17:44] <TimeVirus> bah
[17:44] <TimeVirus> where would I find that?
[17:45] <hwilde> TimeVirus, top left menu bar
[17:45] <TimeVirus> kk
[17:45] <hwilde> TimeVirus, under File -> Work Offline
[17:46] <TimeVirus> ok
[17:47] <TimeVirus> well, thats not it
[17:47] <daftykins> TimeVirus: does it bring up anything local? like your router's web admin
[17:47] <TimeVirus> k lemme check
[17:48] <HelenaKitty> Oh well
[17:48] <HelenaKitty> Thanks for your time.
[17:49] <jirka> Hi. What if 14.10 install OK, but freeze in 1 minute after boot from HDD?
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> jirka: did other ubuntu version work ok?
[17:51] <jirka> lotuspsychje, Yes.
[17:51] <TimeVirus> I'm at school and my ifconfig show my ip as 10.19.25.52 /24 and I try 10.19.25.1 hoping thats where the Gateway is and I get no response
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> jirka: can you press f1 for errors at boot?
[17:51] <hwilde> TimeVirus, /sbin/route -n
[17:51] <daftykins> TimeVirus: ok well there's not necessarily anything running there.
[17:51] <TimeVirus> k
[17:51] <hwilde> TimeVirus, what does it show for 0.0.0.0  default gateway
[17:52] <jirka> lotuspsychje, I do not try yet.
[17:52] <neyder> hi there
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> jirka: you can also try to boot into grub recoverymode (hold shift)
[17:53] <neyder> i have problems update liwhoopsie
[17:53] <neyder> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/whoopsie not found.
[17:53] <TimeVirus> I dont see the gateway listed in ifconfig
[17:53] <neyder> it was a bug, in .0.26 butnow there is in 0.039
[17:53] <neyder> TimeVirus, sudo route -n
[17:53] <TimeVirus> k
[17:54] <TimeVirus> yup 10.19.25.1 gateway
[17:55] <TimeVirus> destination 0.0.0.0 gateway 10.19.25.1
[17:55] <TimeVirus> the default route, yes?
[17:56] <jirka> lotuspsychje, OK. Thanks, I will to search boot errors.
[17:56] <eb0t> you are pinging the gateway TimeVirus
[17:56] <TimeVirus> sec
[17:56] <hwilde> TimeVirus, yes so what happens if you ping 10.19.25.1  ?   traceroute it ?
[17:56] <TimeVirus> ok
[17:57] <Guest65348> mekhami: to zero over a hard disk (multiple passes aren't really required) you can use shred. First find the block device label (generally something like /dev/sda for the hard disk with /dev/sda1 being the first partition and so on) you can just run gparted to find the partition or disk label. Then run shred on that device name. The syntax would be "shred -n 0 -z (block device name here)". -n 0 #zero passes of random data / -z #ex
[17:57] <eb0t> sudo ping 10.19.25.1 TimeVirus
[17:57] <eb0t> just in case
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> neyder: whoopsie show in /etc/init ?
[17:58] <TimeVirus> ping returns 'packet filtered' and traceroute isnt installed - yet
[17:58] <neyder> lotuspsychje, no it doesn't
[17:58] <mekhami> Guest65348, thanks.
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> neyder: your on 14.10?
[17:59] <neyder> yes utopic
[17:59] <MagicSpud> hello is there an easy way to tell Rhythmbox about the unknown songs? there are a good deal of them in my library...and I dont feel like typing all the info one by one
[17:59] <neyder> MagicSpud, there is a tool to make id3tag from filename but don't remeber
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> neyder: other system services show on ls /etc/init for you?
[18:00] <eb0t> packet filtered usually means your router is acting like a firewall
[18:00] <MagicSpud> neyder what id3tag is?
[18:00] <eb0t> and is not responding to your requests...maybe it has an access list on it
[18:00] <neyder> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9059051/
[18:00] <neyder> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9059051/
[18:01] <TimeVirus> seems ping isnt allowed on this network? Firefox has been working until just recently
[18:01] <eb0t> ah ok then ping has been disabled
[18:01] <neyder> MagicSpud, id3tag is where artist an title meta information on a mp3
[18:01] <MagicSpud> and song title?
[18:01] <eb0t> so what is the problem you .can get online..but cant ping due to echo reply being disabled on your rouer
[18:01] <panbalag> Hi... Is there anyone from Ubuntu Security Team here?
[18:01] <TimeVirus> makes me no sense that ping wouldnt be allowed on this network
[18:02] <TimeVirus> firefox cant see the internet
[18:02] <eb0t> normally or sometimes they usually diable ping on the outside interface ..that is your public ip
[18:02] <TimeVirus> HexChat is ok
[18:02] <eb0t> you can try and ping www.google.com
[18:02] <eb0t> and see if that is ok
[18:02] <TimeVirus> ok
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> !info whoopsie
[18:03] <TimeVirus> can ping google.com no problem
[18:03] <eb0t> if so then it is just that echo reply (which is your ping response) has been disabled on your internal router interface...which is not a good thing to do
[18:03] <eb0t> so to change that you have to get onto your router
[18:03] <TimeVirus> gah
[18:03] <eb0t> and then depending on model, reactivate it on the internal interface
[18:04] <eb0t> and probably deactivate it on the external interface...it looks like someone got their interfaces wrong way round
[18:04] <TimeVirus> ah I c
[18:04] <eb0t> but you can just leave it and everything will be ok
[18:04] <hwilde> pinging the gateway is not a requirement for browser access.
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> neyder: what happens when you try to install whoopsie?
[18:06] <panbalag> Looking for any developer who has updated the fields "when, Confirmed, Assigned, Started work, Completed" in launchpad while working on a bug... Please reply back if you have updated any of these fields. I would like to clarify the definition for these fields.
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> panbalag: try #ubuntu-devel
[18:07] <panbalag> lotuspsychje: Thanks, I will try the channel
[18:08] <Tobias[L]> panbalag: try to reach said maintainer in launchpad itself
[18:08] <tomek__> hi all
[18:08] <tomek__> who knows how to change minimize maximize from left to right?
[18:12] <Guest65348> I just installed an ubuntu variant and forgot to set the boot partition to be mounted at /boot during startup. The installer seems to have created a /boot folder in my root partition and put the most recent (and currently running) kernel image there. Ideally there is just the boot partition which is mounted at /boot at startup. I can put an fstab entry in but how would I go about merging the two safely.
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> neyder: ls /etc/init and check if whoopsie.conf is there
[18:12] <tomek__> how to move minimize maximize close from left to right ?
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> !themes | tomek__
[18:14] <daftykins> Guest65348: boot a live session, move the files to the real /boot, delete the /boot on /, edit fstab, boot... enjoy
[18:19] <hwilde> why doesn't my nautilus window show the copy dialog, even after I click show copy dialog ???
[18:19] <tomek__> how to move minimize maximize close from left to right ?
[18:19] <zykotick9> !controls | tomek__
[18:20] <tomek__> !controls
[18:20] <fix_> I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 netinstall on laptop. install of grub 2 fails. I dont understand this because i have just had debian running on it and on that install grub installed just fine. what can I do?
[18:22] <chhantyal> Hey everyone, I updated my server to 14.04.1 and now I can’t connect using SSH - it’s exactly same problem as this http://bit.ly/1BJovHb
[18:23] <chhantyal> The solution posted on that thread `reboot` doesn’t seem to work
[18:27] <breabish> hey for all
[18:27] <Steve_Jobs> can anyone help me with MATE desktop?
[18:27] <breabish> what can i do with process
[18:27] <Steve_Jobs> getting really large icons when ALT-tabbing
[18:28] <Steve_Jobs> also can't get ccsm to run. Getting a couldn't connect to accessibility bus
[18:29] <breabish> what  is the benifet of openstack
[18:29] <breabish> i mean how to use openstack
[18:29] <owen1> i use vim in tmux and very often the tmux session freezes. pstree -p |grep xterm => -sh(5655)---xterm(5656)---bash(5658)---tmux(5671) and i use 'kill -9 5656' and that reattach to the session. but it happened again and again. strace -p 5656 show me 'restart_syscall(<... resuming interrupted call ...>' any clues?
[18:30] <genii> Steve_Jobs: Perhaps enquire in #ubuntu-mate
[18:33] <TimeVirus> hwilde PM
[18:34] <Steve_Jobs> genii: thanks. Will try there
[18:36] <trism> owen1: you aren't hitting ctrl+s are you?
[18:36] <trism> owen1: if so you can hit ctrl+q to unfreeze it
[18:37] <owen1> trism: ctrl+s? no i just use vim when it freezez
[18:38] <owen1> trism: u might be right.
[18:38] <owen1> maybe i hit ctrl+s by accident
[18:38] <zcv> does linux keep a log of commands run? is there a log of when the screen gets activated too?
[18:39] <owen1> trism: is that a tmux command or xterm?
[18:39] <trism> owen1: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12107/how-to-unfreeze-after-accidentally-pressing-ctrl-s-in-a-terminal neither
[18:40] <trism> owen1: it's happened to me a few times while hitting all the key combos in vim
[18:40] <Luyin> hi, my usb-ports are suddenly no longer reacting to mouse movements. I have tried all three ports, the mouse doesn't react anywhere. another mouse I used for testing did the same thing. what could I do?
[18:41] <daftykins> Luyin: laptop?
[18:41] <Luyin> daftykins: yes
[18:41] <Luyin> 14.04
[18:41] <TimeVirus> anyone know how I can copy Hexchat window contents to leafpad (my editor)?
[18:41] <austin_> wait it just suddenly do that? or was it working and then quit?
[18:41] <daftykins> Luyin: turn it off, remove the battery, unplug mains power - this'll let the USB controller reset. plug it back in and the battery, boot up with USB devices unplugged and try again
[18:42] <Tobias[L]> daftykins: good morning! XD
[18:42] <daftykins> oh hi
[18:42] <squinty> TimeVirus:  just highlight the text (it is automatically copied to the clipboard)  then right click and select paste in your text editor
[18:42] <Luyin> daftykins: I was hoping for solutions without turning it off... is this some sort of a known bug? I'm having this repeatedly, and most often it's when I need the mouse and rebooting is a nuisance
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> Luyin: check dmesg maybe for errors?
[18:43] <daftykins> Luyin: er, ok. good luck then
[18:43] <bynarie> anyone know why in Xchat sometimes names dont autocomplete with TAB? And its not because of similar name issues
[18:44] <TimeVirus> ok thanks squinty not seeing the 'copy' option in right click I was confused
[18:44] <TimeVirus> you da man
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: did you change anything as end : , .
[18:44] <squinty> bynarie:  usually participant has left channel
[18:44] <TimeVirus> very good
[18:45] <fix_> anyone who has any idea why grub2 fails to install when using netinstall image. And what to do about it?
[18:45] <bynarie> lotuspsychje-  yes i did im using - now
[18:45] <Steve_Jobs> genii: no one there
[18:45] <Steve_Jobs> anyone here using MATE?
[18:45] <bynarie> it only does it on certain names though
[18:45] <Luyin> Steve_Jobs: ask your question
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: try the : and check if you have same issue maybe
[18:46] <Steve_Jobs> ccsm hangs on Loading icons
[18:46] <bynarie> ill give it a shot... thanks
[18:46] <Steve_Jobs> there's a warning before that:
[18:46] <Steve_Jobs> (ccsm:23293): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-QMoZXN78Ma:
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: maybe its the - fighting with something
[18:46] <genii> Steve_Jobs: Their webite says "Most of the Ubuntu MATE team are in here but they have real lives too. If you have a question, do ask. However, it may take a while for someone to reply. Just be patient and don't disconnect right away." :)
[18:48] <compdoc> ubuntu server with a mate desktop is pretty nice
[18:48] <Steve_Jobs> genii: :) yup.. but would like to see if I can get ccsm help here
[18:48] <Steve_Jobs> I'm not sure if it's MATE's issue
[18:48] <Steve_Jobs> compdoc: it is very nice
[18:48] <mdoge> Steve_Jobs: thought you were dead...
[18:49] <Steve_Jobs> I would like to get hot corners working for flyaway windows, desktop views and also get cube going and snap windows to edges
[18:49] <Blaster> I suddenly have 2 mouse cursors and don't know how to amke it stop!
[18:49] <mdoge> Steve_Jobs: that mental picture...
[18:49] <Steve_Jobs> mdoge: don't get me banned on here.. I use the name to say what nasty things I did ;)
[18:50] <mdoge> hot corners working for flyaway windows, desktop views and also get cube going and snap windows to edges < nice mental picture
[18:50] <Tobias[L]> Blaster: its the NSA! quick, burn your pc!
[18:50] <compdoc> he gave us all personal computers
[18:50] <Tobias[L]> Blaster: and dont take that seriously!
[18:50] <Tobias[L]> XD
[18:50] <squinty> take the ot to ubuntu-offtopic please
[18:50] <Steve_Jobs> compdoc: C64
[18:50] <mdoge> aye squinty sir
[18:51] <compdoc> heh, I owned a C64 - it was a toy
[18:51] <Steve_Jobs> squinty: trying.. I need MATE to work.. but deeper problems in Ubunutu me thinks
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> we have such nice discuss channel, nobody ever use..
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[18:51] <mdoge> squinty didnt have a support question
[18:52] <Luyin> dmesg shows me this error repeatedly: "usb 2-1.2: device descriptor read/64, error -32". there are several hits on google, many different problems that may cause this. how could I find out more?
[18:52] <Tobias[L]> Luyin: bing
[18:53] <Tobias[L]> XD sorry im in a really happy mood today XD
[18:53] <utopiabel> -
[18:54] <studmuf> I have a bunch of files of format ##.## - name.ext that I need to look like s##e## - name.ext (where '#' is a digit). What's the easiest way to do this?
[18:55] <fix_> thunar bulk renamer i think
[18:56] <Luyin> thanks Tobias[L] xD
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> studmuf  i'm sure #bash can help you write a script for that
[18:56] <studmuf> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:56] <daftykins> Luyin: just do what i said, you'll end up wasting your time when it probably just wants a reset of the controllers
[18:57] <Steve_Jobs> studmuf: go to the #bash channel
[18:57] <Luyin> daftykins: there sure is no way to reset them without reboot? it's an annoying problem so far.
[18:57] <Luyin> I'll sure end up doing that if that's the option, but anything without rebooting would be much more convenient
[18:58] <jimmy51v_> what's the ideal way to get the equivalent of RDP access into a linux box from a windows machine?
[18:58] <Steve_Jobs> you should get something like ls | egrep \d\{2\}*.... | xargs -i{} mv ...
[18:58] <jimmy51v_> I already SSH but am wanting something GUI based
[18:58] <Tobias[L]> jimmy51v_: teamviewer?
[18:58] <squinty> jimmy51v_: teamviewer
[19:00] <eb0t> tightvnc
[19:00] <jimmy51v_> (reading)
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> vnc is a bad idea
[19:00] <eb0t> vnc is an excellent idea
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> very vunrable
[19:00] <eb0t> we use it proper commercially
[19:01] <eb0t> its more secure than teamviewer
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> !vnc
[19:01] <eb0t> much much more
[19:01] <compdoc> vnc doesnt work with the current unity desktop. its all broken now
[19:01] <eb0t> see lotuspsychje
[19:01] <jimmy51v_> hmm
[19:02] <jimmy51v_> VNC over SSH sounds good
[19:02] <jimmy51v_> maybe
[19:02] <eb0t> plus the advantage of vnc is ou dont need to buy it when you have multiple users
[19:02] <eb0t> and yes when used over ssh its very secure
[19:02] <Tobias[L]> eb0t: it doesnt sound like jimmy51v_needs multiple users, for beginners i recommend teamviewer
[19:02] <eb0t> whereas teamviewer is good but costs money and is extremely vulnerable
[19:03] <eb0t> i dont know what he needs ...im jsut offering the best solution
[19:03] <MrElendig> if you want security: use openvpn
[19:03] <Tobias[L]> eb0t: you on the 30C3? the one person that looked into every open vnc/teamviewer XD
[19:03] <MrElendig> neither vnc nor teamviewer are secure
[19:03] <Tobias[L]> eb0t: MrElendig: nothing is secure
[19:03] <eb0t> yes i had to select the best one for a major media company and implement it
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> MrElendig: agree
[19:03] <eb0t> thats what we used openvpn
[19:04] <eb0t> what is 30c3
[19:04] <eb0t> Tobias[L]:
[19:05] <Tobias[L]> eb0t: the CCC's yearly german meetup
[19:06] <eb0t> dont know it ...never heard of it
[19:06] <eb0t> so no im not on the 3033
[19:06] <eb0t> are you on it
[19:06] <Tobias[L]> eb0t: awwww
[19:06] <Tobias[L]> eb0t: this year maybe
[19:06] <utopiabel> -
[19:06] <eb0t> maybe....do you not know
[19:08] <squinty> why is it that so called "computer experts/nerds" or whatever has so much trouble doing a couple of clicks or keystrokes to move their off topic conversations to a relevant channel?  Absolutely pitiful....
[19:08] <riku> my device defaults to a portrait display, how can I make it default to be landscape (90 degrees clockwise from what it is now)?
[19:09] <eb0t> i didnt know it was off topic...squinty ..ive never heard of it ...he seemed to know what he was talking about so i thought it may be sometign to do with ubuntu
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> riku: what device are we talking about?
[19:09] <riku> nexus 7 (don't tell me to leave because it's unsupported)
[19:10] <eb0t> i like the quotes though squinty ..i think they are apt ;)
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> riku: you got touch installed?
[19:10] <riku> i don't think this is explicitly related to my device
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> !touch | riku
[19:10] <riku> ubuntu mobile with lightdm-gtk-greeter and twm
[19:10] <riku> this is more a generic xorg question
[19:10] <squinty> eb0t:  please stop highlighting me and making off-topic comments.  type  /topic   read and understand the contents
[19:11] <Guest1582> ubuntu is a shit for linux man
[19:11] <austin_> anyone here proficient with Desktop Environments? Trying to switch 14.10 from Unity to Cinnamon
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> !language | Guest1582
[19:12] <austin_> its giving me a lot of issues
[19:12] <squinty> !ops Guest1582
[19:12] <Guest1582> unity is better
[19:12] <bubbasaures> austin_, Switching means?
[19:12] <austin_> trying to install Cinnamon and get it working
[19:12] <austin_> I highly dislike Unity
[19:12] <bubbasaures> austin_, This a PPA version?
[19:12] <eb0t> squinty i think he saw the message why ban him immediately
[19:12] <eb0t> just relax
[19:12] <austin_> PPA version?
[19:13] <austin_> I'm a bit of a noob :/
[19:13] <bubbasaures> !info cinnamon
[19:13] <austin_> I've installed Cinnamon and everything, but i think I'm missing some config stuff
[19:13] <squinty> eb0t:  mind your own business
[19:13] <Guest1582> use linux mint cinnamon version
[19:14] <squinty> Guest1582:  mint is not supported here. join their channel on spotchat
[19:14] <riku> it's probably easier to either use mint or use a different desktop
[19:14] <bubbasaures> austin_, So it appears cinnamon is in the repos for 14.10, what are the problems?
[19:14] <Tobias[L]> squinty: we are not lacking the ability we are just toooooo lazy to
[19:15] <austin_> I installed it via apt-get
[19:15] <austin_> but when I logged out and switched to it
[19:15] <austin_> it doesn't look right
[19:15] <riku> define "doesn't look right"
[19:15] <eb0t> hey austin it may be worth doing an update and a dist upgrade after install
[19:15] <austin_> black screen, file manager looks like something from 1999
[19:15] <Guest1582> im not supporting anything
[19:15] <bubbasaures> austin_, TRy to not use the enter as punctuation.
[19:15] <eb0t> just to make it clean environment
[19:15] <Guest1582> just suggesting
[19:16] <austin_> so, apt-get update cinnamon?
[19:16] <eb0t> no just apt-get update
[19:16] <austin_> I've done that a couple times
[19:16] <eb0t> i use aptitude...so you can do aptitude update
[19:16] <bubbasaures> austin_, You don't update single packages but the OS.
[19:16] <Guest1582> apt-get install cinnamon
[19:16] <eb0t> then follow up with aptitude upgrade
[19:16] <riku> Guest1582: get a nick lol
[19:17] <austin_> yeah I used apt-get install cinnamon, then apt-get update
[19:17] <Guest1582> i am so poor i cant buy a nick :(
[19:17] <austin_> but it still looks wrong
[19:17] <riku> so nobody has any idea how to make my display default to landscape?
[19:17] <Guest1582> try apt-get update && upgrade then apt-get install cinnamon
[19:17] <eb0t> you can try turning your screen round riku
[19:17] <eb0t> that sometimes works
[19:17] <BluesKaj>  /nick newnick in the server textbox, Guest1582
[19:18] <riku> I did that already
[19:18] <eb0t> get some duct tape on it
[19:18] <eb0t> he he
[19:18] <austin_> I'll try update/upgrade again
[19:18] <squinty> austin: the only thing that apt-get update does is replenish the listings of available files.  it does not add. subtract install or upgrade anything
[19:18] <riku> that works under unity, but not under twm or lightdm-gtk-greeter
[19:18] <ablyss> riku, it might be a hardware setting.  Some monitors have options two switch between 4:3 and 16:9
[19:18] <eb0t> have you done aptitude upgrade austin
[19:18] <austin_> no
[19:18] <eb0t> give it a try and then see
[19:18] <riku> ablyss: it's a tablet, and I'm looking for an xorg setting
[19:18] <austin_> i dont even know what aptitude is
[19:19] <eb0t> aptitude is the same as apt
[19:19] <riku> aptitude = apt iirc
[19:19] <eb0t> but just a bit more modern
[19:19] <austin_> ah
[19:19] <squinty> Tobias[L]:  yes I agree with your statement that you are indeed lazy.  thanks for the confirmation
[19:19] <eb0t> i think to do the same thing on apt you have to do #apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:19] <eb0t> but much easier to do aptitude upgrade
[19:20] <bubbasaures> austin_, This is a channel you want to preface answers with nicks and consolidate your info so it can be followed is all. YOu may just get lost otherwise.
[19:20] <lamb01> Hi.  14.04 install... https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads  <--- 14.04 isn't listed as an option.. what one should I use?  Thanks.
[19:21] <austin_> alright, thanks guys. I'll try a few things and then come back if it doesn't work
[19:21] <Canichat2> any one have amd catalyst guide for installing under ubuntu
[19:21] <daftykins> !amd | Canichat2
[19:21] <riku> I can go into display settings under gnome control center and change rotation to clockwise
[19:21] <daftykins> !ati | Canichat2
[19:21] <riku> but hitting apply throws an error
[19:21] <squinty> lamb01:  you can install from repo's
[19:21] <Tobias[L]> squinty: dont see it so hard XD
[19:21] <devildog31415> why does this work from the command line: /usr/bin/stat -c %Y /home/sgabriel/Dropbox/apps/hledger/data/financial/sgabriel.journal.txt       BUT in a shell script variablename = `/usr/bin/stat -c %Y /home/sgabriel/Dropbox/apps/hledger/data/financial/sgabriel.journal.txt` do NOT work it says: secondssincechange: command not found
[19:22] <devildog31415> btw: variablename is "secondssincechange"
[19:22] <bubbasaures> lamb01, first line has it it is the latest they have.
[19:22] <riku> "Failed to apply configuration: %s GBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service files"
[19:22] <squinty> lamb01:  there are two flavours available via the repository   open source and oracle's
[19:23] <ablyss> deviildog, you need to put the variable in quotes ""
[19:23] <riku> lamb01: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[19:24] <Giant81> do people not use camel case anymore?
[19:24] <Canichat2> daftykins : isnt amd owns ati ??
[19:24] <bubbasaures> squinty, I'm not sure it is as black and white as oracele or open source.
[19:24] <Giant81> seecondsSinceChange
[19:24] <bubbasaures> oracle*
[19:24] <Outld> Interesting
[19:24] <Outld> anyone out here
[19:24] <riku> lxde display settings doesn't have an option for rotation
[19:25] <Outld> What OS are you all on?
[19:25] <devildog31415> Can anyone speak to the heart of my issue, since I'm a newbie: the finer points/finese weren't considered by me because I don't know them
[19:25] <eb0t> what are you on Outld
[19:25] <Canichat2> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[19:25] <yuraum> ubuntu mate 14.10 64b
[19:25] <Outld> cool cool, backbox here
[19:26] <Outld> thought this irc was a OS specific thing
[19:26] <lamb01> Outld, as long as the chatter is os specific no one cares :)
[19:26] <bubbasaures> devildog31415, You have to have some patience, don't plead, just the facts.
[19:27] <trism> devildog31415: did you put those spaces between the = symbol in the script? because you can't have spaces: BLAH = `echo blah`; BLAH: command not found
[19:27] <bubbasaures> This is support chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic or many other channels.
[19:28] <m0h4wk> I recently installed the latest Ubuntu desktop build on a 150gb partition and I'm starting to like it more than Windows 8. Is it possible to increase the size of my current partition as it is right now?
[19:28] <riku> I'm using 456 MB of RAM but in my processes I only see about 40MB being used
[19:28] <riku> before my last reboot I was using 200 MB
[19:28] <bubbasaures> m0h4wk, Resize the windows forst from it'd disk partitioner than boot a live and use gparted to resize the ubuntu.
[19:29] <bubbasaures> s/it's/first
[19:29] <squinty> m0h4wk:  gparted
[19:29] <m0h4wk> Gparted is the program I can use to resize my partition? Thanks!
[19:29] <undRmindcntrlX2> Does ubuntu error reporting send error data encrypted?
[19:30] <bubbasaures> m0h4wk, Don't use it to resize any windows partition is all.
[19:30] <riku> even top shows the most RAM usage being 3% by Xor
[19:30] <riku> *Xorg
[19:30] <squinty> m0h4wk:  http://gparted.org/documentation.php
[19:30] <TimeVirus> yay \o/ my firefox is working again!
[19:30] <bubbasaures> m0h4wk, I hope by now you have full backups and are ready for any issue, resizing can brick you.
[19:31] <TimeVirus> DNS was borked
[19:31] <m0h4wk> How can I set up a backup on Ubuntu?
[19:31] <beygi> hi guys , i have a question . my ip address banned from my vps . i cant open web page in 80 port . how can i find out which process bans my ip address ?
[19:31] <Outld> Did everyone have to install this IRC or did it come with ubuntu?
[19:32] <eb0t> i think most people chooose their favorite irc client
[19:32] <bubbasaures> m0h4wk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem  handfulls of ways.
[19:32] <TimeVirus> If I remember right I installed Hexchat
[19:32] <TimeVirus> from Synaptic
[19:32] <m0h4wk> I'm just going to use the backup tool that came with Ubuntu
[19:32] <Outld> interesting!
[19:32] <eb0t> i installed weechat --the best by far
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> Outld  some clients are installed, you can install another if you like
[19:33] <TimeVirus> but hexchat is so pretty! :)
[19:33] <eb0t> ah cool
[19:33] <bubbasaures> m0h4wk, Cool, you can also clone that whole HD and/or any partition, that is my system all on external HD's.
[19:33] <TimeVirus> all colors and stuff
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> Outld  don't say which client you use, because everyone will suggest you another client
[19:33] <eb0t> i havent  seen the hexchat
[19:33] <riku> I managed to rotate it with xrandr -o right
[19:33] <m0h4wk> The download link on the gparted website doesn't seem to be working, can I install it through terminal?
[19:33] <eb0t> only irssi and weechat and pidgin
[19:33] <Outld> MonkeyDust okay ;) thanks
[19:33] <riku> but it messed up my input, it's misaligned
[19:34] <bubbasaures> m0h4wk, gparted is on the live boot it, you have to be unmounted to resize.
[19:34] <m0h4wk> I'm not sure what that means :(
[19:34] <m0h4wk> I just installed Linux yesterday and am still getting used to it
[19:34] <squinty> m0h4wk: gparted is included on your live dvd.  you will have to use it after you have checked over (reshrunk or whatever) your windows setup in windows itself
[19:35] <eb0t> i think he means switch off your coputer and boot from the disk to resize
[19:35] <bubbasaures> m0h4wk, When your in the OS your mounted, you can't resize linux from inside it, with the partiton of it you have.
[19:35] <undRmindcntrlX2>  Does ubuntu error reporting send error data encrypted?
[19:35] <riku> the touch input thinks my screen is still portrait...
[19:36] <m0h4wk> Ok that makes sense, can't resize the partition if I'm using it right?
[19:36] <m0h4wk> So how do I work around that?
[19:36] <eb0t> switch off you pc and then on again with the live disk in
[19:36] <bubbasaures> m0h4wk, Yes, and get used to prefacing all posts with the nicks of whom you're answering please.
[19:37] <eb0t> from ther eyou can use gparted ..i personally prefer fdisk or gdisk..but gparted seems popular
[19:37] <squinty> m0h4wk: boot into your Windows > resize /chkdsk partition.  if everything ok, boot ubuntu live dvd, run gparted > resize from there
[19:38] <m0h4wk> squinty: what if I used a USB?
[19:38] <UncleJoe> anyone: I had a working minimal 12.04 and the P/S died.  My backup pc is an AMD not Intel like the original, but when I put the HDDs in, it will not boot. "run-init /sbin/init accessing a corrupted shared library"
[19:38] <squinty> m0h4wk:  same process
[19:38] <m0h4wk> squinty: Same procedure yeah?
[19:38] <squinty> yes
[19:39] <m0h4wk> squinty: I set up automatic backups just now, so the backups will overwrite each other as they update yeah?
[19:39] <squinty> m0h4wk:  if you are unsure on what to do in Windows pertaining to resizing and/or chkdsk, ask in a Windows related channel first. :)
[19:41] <bubbasaures> m0h4wk, Be careful with all this, hate to be scraping you up off the floor or see others doing it due to a mistake.
[19:41] <m0h4wk> squinty: Resizing my partition isn't really a priority atm, 150gb's is plenty of space considering I'll be uninstalling all my programs from Windows and moving them to Linux
[19:42] <m0h4wk> squinty: I'd like to make my Windows partition my gaming machine essentially, it's a lot easier on Windows with all the compatibility.
[19:43] <riku> when I rotate my screen with xrandr, my touch input gets broken, tapping the screen registers input in a completely different place
[19:44] <riku> it works fine again if I set it back to normal
[19:45] <dass44> hi
[19:45] <dass44> im having problems getting ubuntu to read shared files over vmware
[19:46] <riku> the only way to make it work is to log into the ubuntu desktop, then log out and switch desktops...
[19:46] <dass44> eh?
[19:46] <riku> not talking about sharing
[19:46] <yuraum> exit
[19:46] <dass44> k
[19:47] <riku> referring to how my desktop won't rotate under twm or lxde
[19:47] <riku> wait maybe if I change the greeter back to unity-greeter
[19:48] <dass44> ?
[19:49] <riku> still talking to myself
[19:49] <bantone> hey there
[19:49] <bantone> i'm working with some servers and noticing some alerts on our system that are referring to stale apt-cache manifests
[19:50] <bantone> WARNING: stale apt cache data, 118490s since update
[19:50] <bantone> i implemented some security updates recently but not sure how these maniefests are not updating
[19:50] <squinty> dass44:  there is a vmware specific channel on freenode   /join #vmware
[19:51] <dass44> its an ubuntu problem
[19:51] <dass44> vmware is ok
[19:55] <m0h4wk> How can I see what applications I have installed on Ubuntu currently?
[19:56] <squinty> m0h4wk:  synaptic package manager   or   dpkg -l   would be two ways
[19:56] <UncleJoe> Anyone have a thought on repairing my install on a new box?
[19:56] <UncleJoe> 12.04 minimal
[19:56] <k1l> m0h4wk: press windowsbutton+a
[19:57] <m0h4wk> Where can I uninstall applications?
[19:57] <squinty> UncleJoe:  better to just state your exact problem.  if someone can help they will reply
[19:58] <k1l> m0h4wk: use software-center or "sudo apt-get remove package" in terminal
[19:58] <squinty> m0h4wk:  use apt-get  (or variation thereof)   synaptic package manager or software center
[19:59] <UncleJoe> squinty: My Power supply failed in my Intel box I put the HDDs in my backup AMD box but I can not boot- I've tried a live USB to repair (boot-repair), to no avail.
[19:59] <UncleJoe> Last error was run-init /sbin/init accessing a corrupted shared library
[19:59] <m0h4wk> How come Ubuntu doesn't allow notifications to automatically pop up whenever I get an IM?
[20:00] <bubbasaures> UncleJoe, Did you save the bootinfo summary url from the bootrepair app?
[20:00] <UncleJoe> You'd think I'd have followed the on-screen instructions... but no.  :(
[20:00] <UncleJoe> bubbasaures: Can I re-run?
[20:01] <m0h4wk> Is there any way to uninstall multiple applications at once?
[20:01] <bantone> any thoughts on stale apt cache
[20:01] <bubbasaures> UncleJoe, Yes, and you can run just it, however this may not really answer the issue it is another tool.
[20:01] <cyberalex4life> hello! How do I find a list of dpkg-reconfigure packages
[20:01] <UncleJoe> bubbasaures: I'm wondering if it's as simple as repair/reinstall grub
[20:02] <zykotick9> bantone: i assume "sudo apt-get update" doesn't fix it...
[20:02] <cyberalex4life> I haven't found a straight answer by now
[20:02] <BluesKaj> UncleJoe, try a live OS on USB and connect the drives to see if they can be mounted
[20:03] <UncleJoe> BluesKaj: They can
[20:03] <UncleJoe> BluesKaj: I just booted and I can mount through "disks" or term
[20:03] <UncleJoe> *booted - live usb
[20:03] <m0h4wk> Is there any way to remove multiple applications at once?
[20:03] <BluesKaj> UncleJoe, do you have separate / and /home partitions on said drives?\
[20:04] <squinty> m0h4wk:  yes   and there are also docs pertaining to individual applications that will explain how to do such.
[20:05] <UncleJoe> BluesKaj: 3.0GB swap on sda1. 37GB ext4 on Sda2
[20:05] <TimeVirus> Synaptic does that doesnt it remove apps?
[20:06] <cyberalex4life> anyone, ho knows my problem?
[20:06] <bantone> zykotick9: yes that works...im curious why it didn't auto update
[20:06] <bantone> thanks
[20:06] <squinty> bantone: seeing as how you are enquiring about a server setup maybe #ubuntu-server may provide another outlet for answering your enquiry
[20:06] <bantone> awesome squinty thanks
[20:07] <bubbasaures> cyberalex4life, What is your end goal?
[20:07] <squinty> TimeVirus:  yes synaptic package manager will add/remove/update
[20:08] <m0h4wk> squinty: Is Ubuntu supposed to display notifications in the top right bar?
[20:08] <bubbasaures> cyberalex4life, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/dpkg-reconfigure.8.html
[20:09] <cyberalex4life> well i did not understand the help
[20:09] <cyberalex4life> I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[20:09] <cyberalex4life> and walked through a few packages
[20:09] <bubbasaures> cyberalex4life, What is the problem, we like to start at that?
[20:09] <floatmastaflex> yo
[20:10] <cyberalex4life> I would to know if there are some configs for mouse-touchpad
[20:10] <floatmastaflex> is hadoop not in the ubuntu repos?
[20:10] <wojciech_> hello
[20:10] <cyberalex4life> like that past with middle click which annoys me
[20:10] <wojciech_> have somebody problem with java and website elearning?
[20:10] <bubbasaures> cyberalex4life, Is english your native language?
[20:10] <cyberalex4life> nope
[20:10] <Guest60313> hello :) have somebody problem with java and website elearning?
[20:11] <squinty> floatmastaflex:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[20:11] <bubbasaures> cyberalex4life, What is? At this point your making no sense and just spamming the channel.
[20:11] <floatmastaflex> NO HADOOP
[20:11] <floatmastaflex> WHAT IS THIS?!
[20:12] <m0h4wk> I feel as though I've installed too many applications, how do I know which ones to remove and which to keep?
[20:12] <cyberalex4life> hmm, no ok, I would like to find the list of packages that can be reconfigured with dpkg-reconfigure
[20:12] <squinty> cyberalex4life:  have you check in System Settings for Mouse/touchpad options
[20:13] <bprompt> m0h4wk:    sounds more like a question to yourself. rather than to someone else
[20:13] <zykotick9> floatmastaflex: this might help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Hadoop
[20:13] <floatmastaflex> it's ok
[20:13] <floatmastaflex> i got it
[20:14] <UncleJoe> bubbasaures: Bootrepair log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9060469/
[20:14] <cyberalex4life> in gnome shell you have to install gnome-tweak-tool and there is an option there, I installed it in unity, the option doesn't stop that and I walked through almost al dconf-editor settings with no success
[20:14] <m0h4wk> brompt: Well I don't know what to do with half of them
[20:16] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: A quick check; verify UUIDs:  from liveDVD -> sudo blkid , sudo fdisk -lu <- verify that the UUIDs in the install '/etc/fstab' and '/boot/grub/grub.cfg' agree with 'blkid' .
[20:16] <squinty> floatmastaflex:  unity-tweak-tool    if using unity.  install (if not already installed) via the repo
[20:17] <bprompt> m0h4wk:     still, is a matter of you having to decide which ones you'd like to keep and which ones you do not wish to keep
[20:17] <k1l> m0h4wk: what is the issue with the amount of applications?
[20:17] <m0h4wk> k1l: well I just want to free up some space is all
[20:17] <m0h4wk> k1l: Just trying to make my system lighter
[20:18] <k1l> m0h4wk: before you delete stuff that maybe is related to system settings i would just leave it there if you dont know.
[20:18] <m0h4wk> k1l: I pre-installed a lot of programs that overlap
[20:18] <m0h4wk> k1l: Several word processing apps, image editing, etc.
[20:18] <m0h4wk> k1l: Too many games too
[20:18] <k1l> m0h4wk: applications that dont get started on boot dont hurt you beside the small amount of disk space they use. but with 100GB+ a 50mb program should not matter
[20:19] <bubbasaures> UncleJoe, You have the sda HD being read first I assume in the bios, the errors you get are beyond my support ability is all.
[20:19] <k1l> m0h4wk: ok. that are things you can remove easily using the softwarecenter, for example.
[20:19] <squinty> floatmastaflex:  unity also uses compiz   so you might want to check out compizconfig-settings-manager (ccsm)  though I am not 100% sure that has any bearing on your problem   just a thought anyways
[20:19] <m0h4wk> k1l: I'm planning on moving most if not all of my Windows programs onto Ubuntu if possible.
[20:19] <m0h4wk> k1l: Yeah the package manager made that process a lot easier actually
[20:19] <UncleJoe> bubbasaures: Yes, it's set to boot first
[20:20] <m0h4wk> k1l: I went to the Games category and removed the ones that I didn't need
[20:20] <k1l> m0h4wk: i would suggest you see if there are native ubuntu applications
[20:20] <m0h4wk> k1l: As in apps that I should keep or..?
[20:20] <bubbasaures> UncleJoe, I clone all my installs for just such a situation amongst others. No Backup?
[20:20] <TimeVirus> lol
[20:20] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: vi /etc/fstab seems empty
[20:21] <UncleJoe> bubbasaures: I had a VMware clone... on a drive that failed 2 days ago
[20:21] <UncleJoe> You ever have one of those weeks...?
[20:21] <k1l> m0h4wk: windows apps dont always have a native linux one. so its better to see if there is a similar one. instead of trying to run the exact windows one.
[20:22] <bubbasaures> UncleJoe, Do you know how to confirm the info that Bashing-om gave you?
[20:22] <TimeVirus> i figure - if its not in the repo I'm effed
[20:22] <m0h4wk> k1l: Oh of course! Ubuntu already installed a Microsoft Office copy so I won't need that. All I really need now is Skype and that about does it
[20:22] <TimeVirus> or...oh well
[20:22] <UncleJoe> bubbasaures: trying
[20:22] <UncleJoe> blkid and fdisk match each other
[20:22] <dm7freek> Is there a way to tell if localhost is ubuntu on CLI?
[20:22] <m0h4wk> k1l: Ubuntu already comes with a torrent client and plenty of music players. Maybe I'll get Photoshop when I need it. But other than that I don't need much.
[20:22] <bubbasaures> UncleJoe, Cool, fstab can be built if needed, they will be better help in this.
[20:22] <bazhang> !info skype partner | m0h4wk
[20:23] <Jordan_U> dm7freek: lsb_release -a
[20:23] <k1l> m0h4wk: there is skype for linux. see the bots message.
[20:23] <k1l> m0h4wk: and there is gimp, that is a open source program for image editing.
[20:23] <earnThis> I need some help configuring both eth0 and eth1 for two separate networks.  currently only eth0 is working
[20:23] <UncleJoe> bubbasaures: Should I just attempt a reboot now that it attempted a fix?
[20:23] <m0h4wk>  k1l: yeah but gimp is a bit simple
[20:24] <m0h4wk> k1l: I'd like to create and edit PSD files in its native program
[20:24] <UncleJoe> Or should I try something (?) first?
[20:24] <jimmy51v_> fyi... tried the recommendations for linux <-> windows RDP
[20:24] <Jordan_U> dm7freek: If that says that it's Ubuntu, it's Ubuntu. If that gives an error message (or of course says that it's not Ubuntu) it's not Ubuntu. Note though that many VPSs have heavily modified Ubuntu installations, sometimes to the point that they can't easily be supported here.
[20:24] <jimmy51v_> right now the winner is nomachine nx
[20:24] <bubbasaures> UncleJoe, The script shows it looks good, however you ran it before so, it's a guess.
[20:24] <Jordan_U> UncleJoe:
[20:24] <m0h4wk> How can I install Skype through terminal?
[20:24] <dm7freek> Jordan_U: is that a ubuntu-specific command?
[20:25] <Jordan_U> dm7freek: No.
[20:25] <dm7freek> coo
[20:25] <bazhang> !partner | m0h4wk
[20:25] <k1l> m0h4wk: sudo apt-get install skype
[20:25] <UncleJoe> Rebooting with usblive out...
[20:25] <bazhang> he needs to enable the partner repo first
[20:26] <UncleJoe> Grub...
[20:27] <k1l> m0h4wk: yes, after you got the partner repo set up. like the bot told you
[20:27] <m0h4wk> It said unable to locate package Skype
[20:27] <UncleJoe> sbin.init: error while loading shared libraries: libnih-dbis.so.1 can not open shared object file: no such file or directory.  Same as before.
[20:27] <m0h4wk> k1l: I set up the partner repo
[20:27] <bazhang> m0h4wk, enable partner repo, as above
[20:27] <UncleJoe> kp
[20:27] <dm7freek> Jordan_U: that's perfect, lsb_release -is does exactly what i wanted
[20:27] <Pici> m0h4wk: are you typing Skype or skype? it is case sensitive.
[20:27] <bazhang> m0h4wk, then apt-get update
[20:27] <k1l> m0h4wk: sudo apt-get update
[20:27] <dm7freek> thanks
[20:27] <k1l> m0h4wk: you need to get a fresh list of the packages offerede then
[20:27] <Jordan_U> UncleJoe: Have you checked the S.M.A.R.T status of your drive? If that came up clear, have you tried an fsck?
[20:28] <m0h4wk> k1l: does this data get saved as a file somewhere?
[20:28] <k1l> m0h4wk: what data?
[20:28] <m0h4wk> k1l: the partner repo
[20:28] <bazhang> in /etc/apt/sources.list and /sources.list.d m0h4wk
[20:28] <UncleJoe> Jordan_U: I did check last boot and it came up clean.  I haven't tried fsck,,, (?)  <- S00p3r n00b
[20:28] <m0h4wk> Thanks!
[20:28] <earnThis> anyone available for ubuntu networking help?
[20:28] <k1l> m0h4wk: you did understand what the partner repo is? and what ubuntu repos actually are?
[20:29] <cyberalex4life> bubbasaures, found what I was looking for: gkdebconf and configure-debian
[20:29] <m0h4wk> k1l: No :(
[20:29] <bazhang> earnThis, ask a question with a ton more details
[20:29] <k1l> m0h4wk: its the servers offering the packages with that you can install programs easily
[20:29] <earnThis> I need some help configuring both eth0 and eth1 for two separate networks.  currently only eth0 is working
[20:29] <Jordan_U> UncleJoe: What did you check last boot?
[20:30] <m0h4wk> k1l: Also, my internet speed seems to have dropped when I switched over to Ubuntu. My download speed in Steam used to be 7-10 megabytes per second. And now it's 2-3 megabytes per second.
[20:30] <UncleJoe> Jordan_U: Smart status
[20:30] <m0h4wk> k1l: Oh ok that makes sense.
[20:30] <bazhang> m0h4wk, what command did you use to enable the partner repos
[20:30] <k1l> m0h4wk: the partner repo is the one with programs not from ubuntu or open source but from commercial partners like microsoft (skype) etc.
[20:31] <Jordan_U> UncleJoe: OK. If you're still booted into a LiveCD/USB try running "sudo fsck /dev/sda2". Note that this could take a long time, so be prepared to wait and don't cancel it half way through.
[20:31] <m0h4wk> I enabled the partner repo and installed Skype, no problems here!
[20:31] <bazhang> great
[20:31] <m0h4wk> But I am having connection issues with my Ethernet
[20:32] <m0h4wk> The speed is lacking compared to what it was in Windows 8.1
[20:32] <UncleJoe> Jordan_U: Rebooting to live now
[20:32] <TimeVirus> MS owns Skype? :-|
[20:33] <TimeVirus> thought they had lynk
[20:33] <TimeVirus> bah
[20:33] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Of note, you are booting an old kernel, why ? also need to address the "duplicate entries" in your sources file(s) .
[20:33] <m0h4wk> Can anyone help me with my network issues?
[20:34] <k1l> m0h4wk: steam servers do vary in speed a lot. dont count that as test
[20:34] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: I don't know the answer to your kernel question.  This is how I set it up over a year ago *(with massive help) and I haven't touched it since
[20:34] <m0h4wk> k1l: Alright, well what would be a good way to test it then?
[20:37] <m0h4wk> How can I accurately test my connection speed?
[20:38] <chemist^> hello everyone.
[20:38] <UncleJoe> Jordan_U: /dev/sda2: clean *now, after adding a -y
[20:38] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Presently, unless Jordan_U Has a better advisement- when you get the fsck and SMART test completed:, I would suggest we try and get the server updated, maybe then we can  isolate the " loading shared libraries " problem ??
[20:38] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Seems reasonable
[20:38] <UncleJoe> Drive seems fixed
[20:39] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Jordan_U :) .. reboot is now good ? we want now to update/upgrade the server ?
[20:40] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Trying to reboot.
[20:40] <UncleJoe> Post...
[20:40] <UncleJoe> Grub...
[20:40] <UncleJoe> rebooted itself
[20:41] <UncleJoe> Trying recovery
[20:41] <lfkr> test
[20:41] <RedPenguin> test failed :)
[20:41] <RedPenguin> lol
[20:41] <UncleJoe> segfault.
[20:42] <chemist^> I'm using ubuntu 14.04.1 with xfce as the UI ... the problem I'm having is mounting an audio CD so that i could see all the tracks when i browse to the CD...but it shows as if it was empty (burn cd) ... when i try to "Open disc" in VLC player... the CD plays and i can see the tracks in the playlist
[20:42] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: libc-2.15
[20:42] <Bashing-om> uncl
[20:42] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Trying liveusb and boot-repair again
[20:43] <zykotick9> chemist^: technically, you can't really mount an audio cd, it's not technically a file system...  best of luck.
[20:43] <TimeVirus> HDDs get hooked on that sheet! boot rpair disk
[20:43] <Jordan_U> UncleJoe: I very much doubt that boot-repair will help you with this problem.
[20:43] <UncleJoe> Jordan_U: I was hoping not to hear that
[20:43] <UncleJoe> Is it due to the different architectures?  Intel/Amd?
[20:43] <chemist^> zykotick9, i used to import "songs" from an audio cd into Audacity for example
[20:44] <TimeVirus> I have to use BRD all the time for to get my Lubuntu to boot from the external
[20:44] <chemist^> now when i try, it shows me as if it is empty
[20:44] <Jordan_U> UncleJoe: No, Intel and AMD processors share the same architecture.
[20:45] <BluesKaj> it's the API and HW drivers tht don't match
[20:45] <UncleJoe> Jordan_U: I don't get it then- I cleanly shut down, mounted the HDDs in 0/1 and it should boot...
[20:45] <TimeVirus> It'll boot once then i have to repair grub before it boots again and on and on
[20:46] <Jordan_U> UncleJoe: It sounds to me like you somehow got some important system files corrupted. You might try installing debsums in a chroot to see what files have been corrupted, but it may be wiser to simply re-install.
[20:46] <djzn> what is the DEFAULT "Terminus Font" in Ubuntu CLI terminal (with no X11 loaded)
[20:46] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Humm .. not good .. as an attempt to isolate to grub's install, there is an option on the desptop liveDVD to "boot from 1st hard drive" . When this option is selected, will the server boot ?
[20:46] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Trying now
[20:47] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: Is this on a BIOS based or UEFI bases system that you're constantly having grub problems?
[20:47] <zykotick9> djzn: ? terminus is a specific font, and certainly not the default console font (i use to change the default console font to terminus)
[20:48] <TimeVirus> BIOS based
[20:48] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Dropped to a busybox shell?
[20:49] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: Sounds to me like the grub-pc package is misconfigured. Please pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc", "sudo blkid", and "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/".
[20:49] <MrJones> is there a good way to measure disk throughput of an active system?
[20:49] <MrJones> I think I got some disk i/o slowness but I don't know how to confirm my suspicion
[20:49] <TimeVirus> ok
[20:49] <zykotick9> MrJones: iotop is a terminal based realtime montior
[20:50] <zykotick9> !info iotop
[20:50] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Yeah. something hosed up in the install boot config files // Jordan_U; is it of benefit to try and CHroot and (re-)install grub ?
[20:50] <MrJones> is there a way I can see that disk i/o is maxed out?
[20:50] <MrJones> like if I see something in iotop, how do I know the application is just lazy or whether the disk isn't going any faster than that
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: I see no indication of a problem with grub, so no.
[20:53] <MrJones> if jdb2 maxes out on IO for a few seconds (80% something), would that indicate hitting the disk i/o limit?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: k
[20:54] <TimeVirus> dumb question but here goes: How do I copy from xterm? Sounds to me like the grub-pc package is misconfigured. Please pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc", "sudo blkid", and "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/".
[20:54] <Jordan_U> UncleJoe: Please boot back into a liveCD/USB and run "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/" then "sudo chroot /mnt/" and tell me when that's done.
[20:54] <UncleJoe> OK
[20:54] <UncleJoe> Rebooting
[20:56] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: To pastebin the output (stdout) of a command you can run "command | pastebinit". You can also select the text, then middle click elsewhere to paste, or in gnome-terminal ctrl+shift+c to copy.
[20:56] <TimeVirus> Jordan_U did you see my last?
[20:56] <TimeVirus> ah ok
[20:56] <UncleJoe> Jordan_U: /bin/bash error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[20:56] <TimeVirus> no gnome terminal
[20:57] <TimeVirus> Lubuntu has xterm
[20:57] <TimeVirus> heh
[20:57] <UncleJoe> 64 bit vs 32...
[20:57] <TimeVirus> middle button worked!
[20:57] <UncleJoe> So my live usb is 64bit and the O/S is 32.
[20:57] <TimeVirus> nice
[20:59] <Jordan_U> UncleJoe: That shouldn't be a problem.
[20:59] <djzn> zykotick9, terminus font is the console font in ubuntu
[20:59] <UncleJoe> Jordan_U: Well, that crushed my only understanding of a problem.  :)
[20:59] <Jordan_U> UncleJoe: (The other direction, your LiveCD being 32 bit and the install 64 bit would be a problem).
[20:59] <djzn> zykotick9, it has many variations...
[21:00] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: And you installed 'boot-repair' to the 64 bit live environment, and wrote 64 bit files to 32 bit OS ? Is that the situation ?
[21:00] <zykotick9> djzn: hummm, that certainly didn't use to be the case (terminus being default i mean).  wasn't aware there where different versions of terminus (other then regular and bold) - well best of luck.
[21:01] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Entirely possible
[21:01] <TimeVirus> Jordan_U here it, or they are: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9060969/
[21:02] <TimeVirus> my having to constantly repair grub on my external hdd to boot
[21:02] <delt> Hello
[21:02] <delt> how do i install sdl 1.2 32bit on my 64bit system? i have an old binary that needs it
[21:04] <TimeVirus> whats that asterisk about in there? under deconf-show grub-pc?
[21:04] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: OK. It looks like grub-pc is configured to install grub's boot sector only to the external drive, not the internal one. When you're trying to boot, are you explicitly telling your BIOS to boot from the external?
[21:05] <delt> "apt-get install libsdl1.2:i386" gives me Package libsdl1.2:i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:05] <genii> !info libsdl1.2debian
[21:05] <TimeVirus> yes I even remove the internal from the boot options sometime to get the external to boot
[21:05] <delt> i could just copy the files, but i want to know how to do it properly
[21:06] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: That just means that that particular configuration variable is one that you as a user have been prompted about.
[21:06] <TimeVirus> ok
[21:06] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: OK. When it fails to boot properly, what does happen instead?
[21:06] <TimeVirus> if I
[21:07] <TimeVirus> if I've removed the internal from boot options then it says I dont have a boot media present or something like that
[21:07] <TimeVirus> and
[21:08] <TimeVirus> if I havent removed the internal it will boot from it unless I've  used Boor-Rpair-Disk just previous to this boot
[21:08] <TimeVirus> understand?
[21:08] <TimeVirus> and even if i've used BRD it still fails to boot from external
[21:08] <TimeVirus> lol
[21:09] <TimeVirus> try again
[21:09] <TimeVirus> works
[21:09] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: I don't understand "if I havent removed the internal it will boot from it unless I've  used Boor-Rpair-Disk just previous to this boot", could you please try to rephrase that?
[21:09] <TimeVirus> mk
[21:09] <kate_r> hi
[21:09] <TimeVirus> when I want to boot from the external I have to use BRD to repair Grub on it
[21:10] <Jordan_U> UncleJoe: It seems like somehow you have an odd and broken combination of a 32 bit and 64 bit system.
[21:10] <TimeVirus> USB is looked at first in BIOS at all times
[21:10] <UncleJoe> Jordan_U: Yes... :)
[21:10] <kate_r> is it possible to route traffic from a certain app to VPN whilst everything else remains normal?
[21:10] <UncleJoe> If you're going to break something, do it right.
[21:10] <TimeVirus> now sometimes after having repaired grub it still fails to boot from the external
[21:10] <Jordan_U> UncleJoe: I would recommend re-installing, though I'm very curious how you got into this state.
[21:10] <TimeVirus> at that time I remove internal and the external will boot
[21:11] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: When you say "fais to boot from the external", what does happen?
[21:11] <UncleJoe> Jordan_U: The only thing I can think of it the liveusb and my attempt to reinstall grub2.
[21:11] <UncleJoe> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[21:11] <TimeVirus> I'll boot from the internal unless I've removed it from boot options in BIOS
[21:12] <UncleJoe> Jordan_U: Bashing-om: My original attempt - probably borked something with the x64, I think
[21:12] <TimeVirus> and if that fails then It tells me no boot media found
[21:12] <TimeVirus> sometimes
[21:12] <TimeVirus> lol
[21:12] <Andy80> hi, are there any known problems with Ubuntu repositories at the moment? Please give a look at these errors I get while I try to install npm http://pastebin.com/rQrnZKdJ
[21:13] <TimeVirus> is there a problem in my BIOS somehow?
[21:13] <ikonia> Andy80: I suspect your cache is out of date "sudo apt-get update" first
[21:13] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: Can you please boot from the external drive now and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical grub-pc" and pastebin the output?
[21:14] <TimeVirus> I'm running from external now
[21:14] <TimeVirus> listen
[21:14] <Andy80> ikonia, ok thanks
[21:14] <TimeVirus> this time I tried to boot from without removing the internal from boot options
[21:15] <TimeVirus> that failed
[21:15] <TimeVirus> it booted from the internal
[21:15] <TimeVirus> so
[21:15] <HelenaKitty> hi
[21:15] <TimeVirus> I removed it from boot options in bios
[21:15] <HelenaKitty> Another question... how to I make Empathy automatically available when I log into the system?
[21:15] <TimeVirus> and now I'm running from the external
[21:15] <HelenaKitty> I currently have my system doing automatic backups per night. It backs up the entire home dir. I wanted to know that when Unity 8 comes out will the backups break the system or will the configuration files within the backups for Unity 7 be compatible with Unity 8?
[21:16] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: Please run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical grub-pc".
[21:16] <TimeVirus> ok
[21:16] <ikonia> HelenaKitty: should be fine
[21:16] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: (And pastebin the output).
[21:16] <TimeVirus> ok
[21:16] <ikonia> HelenaKitty: and the unity won't be replaced in the same version
[21:16] <ikonia> HelenaKitty: it should only upgrade on the next ubuntu release.
[21:17] <HelenaKitty> ikonia, Oh okies <3
[21:17] <HelenaKitty> ikonia, It's just Unity 8 is gonna be shipped with Ubuntu 16
[21:17] <HelenaKitty> We're already on Ubuntu 14
[21:17] <m0h4wk> How many processes should I have running as Ubuntu starts?
[21:17] <ikonia> HelenaKitty: you're not using 16
[21:17] <m0h4wk> I have 260-something running right now
[21:17] <ikonia> HelenaKitty: ubuntu 16 is 2 years away
[21:17] <HelenaKitty> I never said I was using 16 now, did I?
[21:18] <HelenaKitty> I said it is gonna be shipped with Ubuntu 16. I never said anything about using Ubuntu 16!
[21:18] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: To state the obvious, more time and effort to burn a 32 bit .iso of 12.04 and run 'boot-repair' once more ?? Or quicker just to (RE-)install the server ?
[21:18] <ikonia> HelenaKitty: then apply some logic, you wouldn't be using a backup that is 2 years old
[21:18] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Downloading 32bit live now
[21:18] <k1l> m0h4wk: that depends on the needs. if i say now: 300 is ok. you are not satisfied
[21:18] <UncleJoe> Shoudl I go minimal again, or full?
[21:18] <HelenaKitty> ikonia, Nope but my system is forever backing up
[21:18] <HelenaKitty> So the latest backup will still have a configuration file from Unity 7
[21:19] <HelenaKitty> It would be nice if it can be applied to Unity 8
[21:19] <ikonia> HelenaKitty: right, and you wouldn't be using them on a system 2 years in the future
[21:19] <m0h4wk> k1l: Well it's just idling with 260 processes. Should I be worried?
[21:19] <TimeVirus> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9061212/
[21:19] <HelenaKitty> ikonia, Yes I would
[21:19] <ikonia> HelenaKitty: no you wouldn't
[21:19] <m0h4wk> k1l: Only using roughly 14% of my 8gb memory
[21:19] <HelenaKitty> You need to stop making assumptions
[21:19] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Always a good idea to have the full desktop on-hand for trouble shooting purposes.
[21:19] <ikonia> HelenaKitty: as you would upgrade, get new files/upgraded files and they would backup
[21:19] <k1l> m0h4wk: if there is no issue dont try to make it an issue :)
[21:19] <HelenaKitty> Nope wrong
[21:19] <HelenaKitty> The system would be restored from backup after upgrade
[21:20] <ikonia> HelenaKitty: no it wouldn't
[21:20] <HelenaKitty> YEs it would
[21:20] <HelenaKitty> Why are we having this argument?
[21:20] <TimeVirus> did you get that Jordan?
[21:20] <HelenaKitty> I came for support, not an argument!
[21:20] <ikonia> your right, lets not
[21:20] <HelenaKitty> Good, glad we come to an agreement! :)
[21:20] <ikonia> HelenaKitty: my support advice is then don't try to use 2 year old backups
[21:20] <ikonia> that is an unwise approach
[21:20] <k1l> m0h4wk: my top tells me its 283 jobs right now.
[21:21] <m0h4wk> k1l: and that's not too rough on the system? Sweet.
[21:21] <zykotick9> HelenaKitty: fyi, you shouldn't assume config files are going to be backwards compatible (they can lead to strange issues).  good luck.
[21:21] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: Interesting. Everything looks fine. If the drive fails to boot again, please come here or to #grub before running boot-repair again so that we can find out what's going wrong and hopefully come up with a permanent solution.
[21:21] <m0h4wk> k1l: Is rainmeter worth installing on Ubuntu?
[21:21] <HelenaKitty> zykotick9, I never assumed
[21:21] <k1l> m0h4wk: again: where is the issue? :)
[21:21] <HelenaKitty> I ask if they WOULD be backward compatible
[21:21] <HelenaKitty> Another person who hasn't read my question properly today.
[21:21] <TimeVirus> lol will do and thanks Jordan! I've been baffled by this for weeks
[21:22] <zykotick9> HelenaKitty: the answer is NO then.  config files get updated...
[21:22] <k1l> m0h4wk: if you want a most minimal system install the minimal install and then  only install services you really need. but that is really some work
[21:22] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: You're welcome.
[21:22] <ikonia> HelenaKitty: no-one knows what will be in ubuntu 16, so I suggest you wait until closer the time
[21:22] <m0h4wk> k1l: Believe it or not that's actually what I did XD
[21:22] <m0h4wk> k1l: Now I've been uninstalling services that I now realize I don't need.
[21:22] <HelenaKitty> zykotick9, You're generalising
[21:22] <HelenaKitty> I asked that question about UNITY
[21:22] <HelenaKitty> which Canonical are the developers of
[21:23] <HelenaKitty> So you guys should know the answer or atleast have an idea!
[21:24] <k1l> m0h4wk: you said you installed the kubuntu iso. that is not the minimal install at all then
[21:30] <lama2p0> Hello, I'm having a problem where, when playing a game sometimes my display freezes for a few seconds.. I have Hybrid Graphics Intel/Nvidia GTX 870M.. Xorg log shows a few errors. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9061309/   could someone help me understand and maybe resolve these errors? Thanks.
[21:32] <dm7freek> Anyone know where Konversation identities get stored?
[21:32] <ansivirus> I had a NFS share hang up (go figure) which caused apache2 processes to go into D state (Uninterruptible sleep) and now I can't kill. them can't reboot/shutdown with reboot -f  or shutdown -r  those processes are sitting in D+ state. Any suggestions to force reboot?
[21:32] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Scanning systems
[21:33] <bazhang> dm7freek, in the home directory, in a .hidden dir mostlikely
[21:33] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | ansivirus
[21:33] <dm7freek> bazhang: thanks
[21:34] <ansivirus> Jordan_U, useful I didn't know about that.. does it work via SSH?
[21:34] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: ... 64bits detected.
[21:34] <ansivirus> Jordan_U, guess I should have specified this is a remote server
[21:36] <ChogyDan> is there a legit way to restart do-release-upgrade?
[21:36] <Jordan_U> ansivirus: Sort of, you can echo commands to /proc/sysrq-trigger , but you have to be a little more careful that you don't lose your ssh connection before sending 'b' (for reboot).
[21:36] <Jordan_U> ChogyDan: What is your actual situation?
[21:36] <Jordan_U> ansivirus: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt
[21:38] <Jordan_U> ansivirus: Note that you need to write to /proc/sysrq-trigger and /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq as root. To do so you would use something like "echo b | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger". Note however, if you run that last command it will reboot immediately with no syncing or unmounting of any filesystems, even local ones.
[21:38] <ansivirus> thank you Jordan_U
[21:38] <ansivirus> working
[21:39] <Jordan_U> ansivirus: You're welcome. By "working" do you mean that your machine is rebooting?
[21:40] <ansivirus> Jordan_U, yes it is
[21:40] <ChogyDan> Jordan_U: it errored out.  I think it complained that /var/lib/dpkg/status was corrupted.  After exiting the "screen" screen (I don't know how to use screen fwiw), I ran dpkg --configure -a, and it certainly complained about .../status.  I replaced with a backup per some googling, but now it seems like most of the upgrade didn't take
[21:40] <ChogyDan> this is 14.04->14.10
[21:42] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Has the boot-repair from 32 bit completed ?
[21:42] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: No- it can't.
[21:42] <k1l> ChogyDan: what gives you "lsb_release -a" "uname -a" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" please in a pastebin
[21:43] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: "64bits detected.  Pluase use this software in a 64bits session..."
[21:44] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: OK, ya want to try from a Full CHange Root -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc <-. see if it will rewrite grub's files ?
[21:45] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Are you comfortable doing a CHange Root routine ?
[21:45] <TimeVirus> I dont care what they been saying - you guys are da bomb with your wisdom and helps!!
[21:45] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: DbDriver "config": .../config.dat is locked by another process: resource temporarily unavailable
[21:46] <TimeVirus> bees knees and what not
[21:47] <ChogyDan> k1l: well, the release says utopic, the kernel is the one I was running (I haven't reboot yet), and the sources file is a generic utopic sources file.  I think all that is pretty standard for a crashed upgraded.  I can pastebin if you really think I should, but it's a bit of a pain since this is a non-gui install
[21:47] <k1l> ChogyDan: ok. run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:48] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: -> fuser -m /dev/sda2 <- see what has a lock ??
[21:48] <ChogyDan> I mean, I can manually finish the upgrade with apt-get, dpkg, debfoster.  But there really isn't a wait to restart do-release-upgrade?
[21:48] <k1l> ChogyDan: is it still running?
[21:49] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: 7 lines of #'s
[21:49] <e333x> hi
[21:49] <k1l> ChogyDan: i thought u said you it failed and rebooted
[21:49] <e333x> im still having problems getting ubuntu to share a folder with windows in vmware
[21:50] <ChogyDan> k1l: no, just crashed
[21:50] <ChogyDan> or errored out
[21:50] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: -> ps auxw|grep <PID> ; see if you can then determine the culprit .. amd we can 'kill' it.
[21:52] <UncleJoe> 2268, 2269, 2270, 2272, 2273 so far all list tty and pts/0
[21:52] <k1l> ChogyDan: there is no restart for do-release-upgrade
[21:53] <ChogyDan> k1l: kk, so be it
[21:53] <e333x> it says unable to create symlink
[21:54] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Maybe /usr/lib/dconf
[21:54] <aFeijo> hi folks, I'm trying to mount box.com, but found 3 errors, first is: "/sbin/mount.davfs: can't open fuse device", cant find the solution on google
[21:55] <e333x> and this error usr/lib/vmware-tools/wmware-modconfig-console pointing to file
[21:55] <UncleJoe> HA
[21:55] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Derp.  I had a few windows open
[21:56] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: I do not know what 'boot-repair' would have that many tty's active // But, so long as they are TTY sessions, I can see no harm in just rebooting. Here I see no cause for damaging the file system.// ok on open windows !
[21:56] <e333x> and this error usr/lib/vmware-tools/apploader
[21:56] <TimeVirus> heh I gotta run for the hills -- thanks for the helps
[21:56] <TimeVirus> bbl
[21:56] <UncleJoe> "Configuring grub-pc" - Linux Command Line : Empty
[21:57] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Normal .. acceptable for it to be "empty" .
[21:57] <e333x> and sbin64 and bin 64 is part of those directories too
[21:57] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: next = quiet_splash
[21:58] <e333x> sorry im having to type the errors out manually cos i cant copy and paste from ubuntu
[21:58] <UncleJoe> e333x: I know how you feel
[22:01] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: When you get there: Enter thru first pages,spacebar to choose/unchoose drive, enter to accept, do not choose partitions -> install to 'sda' !
[22:02] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: No third screen appears.  After "Linux default command line:" it exits back to shell
[22:03] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Sheessshh .. lemme ponder a bit .. I may have encountered that in the past .. trying to remember .
[22:04] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: sudo grub-mkconfig  ?
[22:05] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099 ?  REinstall grub?
[22:06] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Think'n more like - IF you are still in the chroot -> grub-install --recheck /dev/sda <- .
[22:07] <UncleJoe> cp: cannot create regular file ... permission denied
[22:07] <UncleJoe> Derp
[22:07] <UncleJoe> error: can not find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?>
[22:08] <e333x> can someone help me with this?
[22:08] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: 'sudo" ! I am getting lame brained . sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda .
[22:08] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: I got that- thus the derp!  :)
[22:09] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: that "is /dev mounted" sounds like the chroot might not be done correctly...
[22:09] <UncleJoe> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2036730
[22:10] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: By tge way drs305's tutorial - In my humble opinion - is the best there is, at that level .
[22:10] <samira_> ein nettes Mädel aus NRW hier ?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Yepper ! .. unccle, confirm how you did the FULL CHange Root ??
[22:11] <jnoob22> o5
[22:15] <UncleJoe> Trying now to convert the 3GB partition sda1 to bootable 32 efi
[22:16] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: sda1 is swap .. sure ya want to make up a /boot partition > that pracice is discouraged now-a-days .
[22:17] <Neozonz|Disc> Trying to upgrade the kernel, but keep getting `linux-headers-3.13.0-39-generic is already the newest version.
[22:17] <Neozonz|Disc> `  yet uname shows differently
[22:17] <Neozonz|Disc> any ideas?
[22:18] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: I have no clue what I'm doing
[22:18] <UncleJoe> I'm googling like a madman
[22:18] <Bashing-om> Neozonz|Disc: Have you rebooted since the kernel upgrade.
[22:18] <Jordan_U> Neozonz|Disc: "linux-headers-*" doesn't inlcude a kernel, just the kernel headers. Also, you need to reboot after installing a new kernel before you will be running it (and uname -r shows what's running).
[22:20] <Neozonz|Disc> Jordan_U, how can I go about installing the kernel as well
[22:22] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Well, You are the man, your system and time and effort. But robbing swap (sda1) does not seem like a good thing to do ( have to redo /etc/fstab ! , if we go messing with partitions ) . // Are you sure you are presently in a FULL CHange Root environment ?
[22:23] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: I can only assume, yes
[22:24] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Hang on and I pass you my method.
[22:29] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Is this the way you did the CHange Root ? My way -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9061867/ .
[22:30] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Except for the bin/bash, I believe so
[22:30] <zcv> is there a timestamped log of processes that've been run on linux? not using ubuntu atm though
[22:32] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: " sudo mount --bind /run /mnt/run " ?/ With the changes in Networking" must have a menas to get around the broken sysmlinks from prior methods. Can you -> ping -c3 google.com <- ?
[22:32] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Actually, the error was
[22:33] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: chroot failed to run command '/bin/bash': Exec format error
[22:36] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Something not mount ? OR is 'bash' not your environment ? In order to do this install, we must have a working internet connection.
[22:37] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: I didn't see any errors on mounting.  I do have internet working
[22:37] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: If "terminal" is bash, then I'm using bash
[22:39] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: I went into the /mnt in the GUI and see that the mounts are there but when I show properties on /bin/bash, it says "Location: /mnt/bin, Volume: unknown"...
[22:39] <UncleJoe> Is that an issue?
[22:44] <UncleJoe> It's the 64/32 issue again
[22:46] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: I am at a loss presently .. try: back out of the current change root, carefully do the change root from my link, and lets see then if you have a root prompt AND if internet works .
[22:47] <systest> did a windows update from 8 to 8.1 on a partition I rarely use.   u$soft has decided it's OK to replace any non-redmond boot loader so I've lost grub.  Any suggestion as to how to "put it back"  I can still boot to linux via the win boot-loader
[22:48] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: No go- same error
[22:49] <TurkerTunali> hello guys
[22:51] <TurkerTunali> I have a sh file which has "$IDEMPIERE_HOME/utils/activemq/bin/activemq-admin start" line. It executes the activemq-admin script but doesn't append the "start" parameter.
[22:51] <TurkerTunali> how can I append "start" parameter to another script?
[22:51] <TurkerTunali> I've tried double quotes
[22:55] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Let's see what results from a simple mount/reinstall -> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt , sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sda , sudo umount /mnt . Try now and reboot into the server . Maybe then we have enough to re-work grub onto 32 bits ?
[23:01] <javnut> anyway I can click somewhere outside my screen
[23:01] <UncleJoe> Installation finished.  No error reported....
[23:01] <javnut> with xdotool?
[23:01] <javnut> or anything else actually
[23:02] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Dropped to a grub shell
[23:02] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: I can try booting with the live and then choosing the sda2 now...?
[23:03] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Make sure in bios the boot priority is set to that 1st hard drive  .
[23:04] <UncleJoe> It is
[23:05] <lama2p0> Can someone help me with a problem I'm having with lubuntu? When I minimize some windows, like a game or steam, the desktop still shows the window as I mouse over the wallpaper.
[23:07] <lama2p0> Actually, it looks like it does it no matter what windows are underneath, not just the desktop.. After minimizing steam, the picture of the minimized window reveals itself.
[23:08] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: All I know to try is to boot the server from the grub boot menu. Maybe get a hint where the problem is ?
[23:09] <panic__> exit
[23:09] <Prezident> try /exit
[23:12] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: ^6 explicit I mean by telling grub what is where and how to boot what . ( try !) .
[23:12] <UncleJoe> I'll keep trying.
[23:12] <UncleJoe> Thanks for all your help Bashing-om
[23:13] <UncleJoe> I'm going to pull the second drive (where my data is) and see if I can continue to repair or finally just reinstall on the main
[23:13] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: Boot to the grub menu; 'c' key for a command line . grub terminal command 'set'; what is in the lines root= and prefix= ?
[23:14] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: OK, once we do get thjis thing booting, nned to go back and fix the boot code that was installed onto sdb .
[23:15] <UncleJoe> I no longer have a grub menu and the live doesn't have command line option
[23:16] <UncleJoe> I get a busybox shell
[23:16] <UncleJoe> If I exit, it kp's
[23:17] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: I hate to admitt it, but I am at the end of my knowledge - to get grub (re-)installed . We have attempted every trick I know of .
[23:17] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: Thank you
[23:17] <UncleJoe> My eyes are going crossed anywya
[23:19] <Bashing-om> UncleJoe: I wish I caould say I learned something here .. maybe a night's rest, something will come to us in our sleep ( been known to happen ) .
[23:20] <UncleJoe> Bashing-om: True
[23:20] <samthewildone> Well here I am
[23:20] <samthewildone> ... just removed gnome ubuntu and went back to unity.
[23:20] <samthewildone> :|
[23:20] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[23:20] <systest> For those following along, the win8.1 borking the boot loader was a result of it changing the UEFI boot order and making windows the default with no timeout.  Fix was to enter bios and reset the order
[23:24] <alberto> sono italiano nuovo
[23:24] <Guest20481> cerco uomo
[23:24] <k1l_> !it | Guest20481
[23:29] <l0rdn1x> Does anyone know why conky doesn't  work properly with Ubuntu 14.04, with Unity as the desktop environment?
[23:29] <l0rdn1x> It vanishes when you click the desktop.
[23:31] <l0rdn1x> And it doesn't load at startup
[23:31] <l0rdn1x> Well it loads but it is invisible.
[23:37] <ramborocks> hello im trying to get plex to read my files but it looks like i dont have permission
[23:38] <ramborocks> im not sure how to give it 'read' permission
[23:39] <ramborocks> nautilus when i go to change the status on 'other access' or group access it changes it back to none... its stuck at none. and wont allow me to give read write access
[23:39] <Cyllpher> Is there an advantage/disadvantage of installing ubuntu and adding the lubuntu-desktop vs. straight install of lubuntu?
[23:40] <bazhang> much smaller hdd imprint
[23:40] <daftykins> disadvantage - waste of time
[23:47] <ChogyDan> ramborocks: is this the base directory of a partition?
[23:49] <TimeVIrus> bah
[23:50] <TimeVIrus> I'm having issues with booting from my external USB HDD - most of the time in order to boot from it I have to do a Boot-Repair-Disk and repair grub
[23:51] <TimeVIrus> I havent done that this time and the boot failed
[23:51] <TimeVIrus> I'm now using a Kali live usb for this
[23:51] <zerothis> Upgrading xserver-xorg-video-trident (1:1.3.4-2build2) results in no video.  17 packages are tied to this driver. How to I upgrade my system and keep my video?
[23:51] <TimeVIrus> this session
[23:51] <k1l_> make sure the external hdd is spin up already when the bios asked the drives
[23:52] <TimeVIrus> I thought of that kil and waited - retried several times
[23:52] <ChogyDan> zerothis: why do you want to upgrade?  I think many of the xorg packages are tied together by version
[23:53] <TimeVIrus> is the Grub channel here on Freenode?
[23:54] <ZeroDivided> So I booted my computer up today and Unity isn't loading. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, and I can see my wall paper.
[23:54] <ZeroDivided> I can launch applications via guake, but they dont have the window borders
[23:55] <k1l_> ZeroDivided: make sure the video driver is setup propperly
[23:55] <zerothis> ChogyDan:This driver comes with precise, I want to use trusty. I managed to force upgrades all the way to saucy, but I'm stuck there, can't get to trusty and keep the trident driver
[23:55] <ZeroDivided> guess ill reinstall it
[23:55] <ZeroDivided> Not sure why it would have changed
[23:55] <k1l_> ZeroDivided: installed from a website?
[23:56] <ZeroDivided> Yeah, nvidia 343
[23:56] <ZeroDivided> been running it for weeks
[23:56] <k1l_> ZeroDivided: there you go
[23:56] <ZeroDivided> ?
[23:56] <k1l_> ZeroDivided: the one ubuntu ships offers stuff like automatic updates and not-breaking when a new kenrel is installed
[23:56] <ChogyDan> zerothis: what I'm saying is, that if you can't upgrade that one driver package, you may not be able to upgrade the rest of xorg
[23:57] <ZeroDivided> gotcha
[23:57] <k1l_> ZeroDivided: so you need to look out for kernel updates and then prepare a driver reinstall.
[23:57] <ZeroDivided> Makes sense
[23:57] <ZeroDivided> Thanks for the help
[23:58] <wafflej0ck_> anyone who can help me out with a Gitlab installation, basically just want to be able to load up a remote repo not sure if the gitlab-mirror add-on is the way to go or if there's some other way it can just pull the data from a remote git repo (sorry not a direct #ubuntu problem but figured someone here may know, running on Ubuntu 14.04)
[23:58] <zerothis> ChogyDan: fine, how do I upgrade and keep my current xorg, and tell packagemanagers to ignore it?
[23:59] <ChogyDan> zerothis: you might want to start with pinning
[23:59] <ChogyDan> !pin | zerothis
[23:59] <ChogyDan> zerothis: pin the trident driver, and then see how much the managers complain?