| Unit193 | http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/commit/?id=a4d701b2836724f101d319c11205fa03201134fb xfce 11306 | 07:47 |
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| ubottu | xfce bug 11306 in General "Incorrect default app shown in file context menu with glib >= 2.41" [Minor,Resolved: fixed] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11306 | 07:47 |
| ochosi | morning folks | 08:28 |
| * ochosi is still travelling today | 08:28 | |
| Unit193 | Yey! | 08:31 |
| ochosi | :) | 08:33 |
| ochosi | will be back tomorrow or the latest wednesday though | 08:33 |
| ochosi | re: docs, fwiw i agree, making the css more responsive is sufficient | 10:49 |
| ochosi | and even that doesn't seem crucial to me | 10:49 |
| ochosi | primarily, people are going to read/access the docs on the device they need it for | 10:49 |
| knome | that would be relatively easy, so.. | 10:49 |
| slickymasterWork | but it's a great idea, and something we could/should try | 10:50 |
| ochosi | i don't think many will take it with them on their holidays | 10:50 |
| ochosi | on their ebook reader | 10:50 |
| slickymasterWork | lol, that hardcore one just might ochosi ;) | 10:50 |
| knome | converting to more formats we have to is just more work | 10:50 |
| ochosi | exactly | 10:50 |
| knome | so not sure if it's worth the maintaining | 10:50 |
| ochosi | with dubious benefit | 10:50 |
| knome | how many ebook readers are there which can't load a webpage? | 10:50 |
| knome | kindle? | 10:51 |
| knome | that's it? | 10:51 |
| * ochosi doesn't have an ebook reader | 10:51 | |
| slickymasterWork | neither do I | 10:51 |
| knome | me neither | 10:51 |
| knome | "dave" on the mailing list said he accesses the docs on kindle or nexus7, when he couldn't access them online | 10:51 |
| Unit193 | The message from Dave is worth reading, and as long as you don't want me to make it more pretty than it is, I have a functional epub. :P | 10:52 |
| knome | so one aspect of that is, i guess, being offline and not having access to the computer (because it's broken) | 10:52 |
| * slickymasterWork hasn't received that message yet | 10:52 | |
| ochosi | knome: but i thought we cover that with offline docs already? | 10:52 |
| knome | ochosi, yes, but note my note (pun not intended) about not having access to the computer (because it's "broken") and thus wanting to read the docs in the first place | 10:53 |
| knome | but, corner case | 10:53 |
| knome | i would definitely say the whole ebook stuff is a corner case | 10:53 |
| ochosi | yup | 10:54 |
| knome | i would be much more interesting in considering a PDF format | 10:54 |
| ochosi | +1 | 10:54 |
| slickymasterWork | and eventually with a potential scarce audience | 10:54 |
| knome | but getting that in the shape i want to... | 10:54 |
| ochosi | can we maybe export the html to pdf in a sensible way? | 10:54 |
| knome | we can export the docbook markup to pdf directly afaik | 10:54 |
| knome | but that doesn't mean it'll look good | 10:55 |
| slickymasterWork | I think that what the former ubuntu manual team used to fo | 10:55 |
| slickymasterWork | s/fo/do | 10:55 |
| knome | there should be some kind of automatic intelligence that is able to recognize orphan rows, for example | 10:55 |
| slickymasterWork | we could ask godbyk about it | 10:56 |
| knome | nah | 10:56 |
| knome | i can just look for it | 10:56 |
| Unit193 | Ask the docs lead. | 10:56 |
| ochosi | anyway, i would agree it's not really our highest priority | 10:56 |
| knome | added a work item | 10:57 |
| ochosi | doing the css part makes sense though | 10:57 |
| knome | yep | 10:57 |
| ochosi | does our website work with smaller devices in general? | 10:57 |
| knome | ochosi, no | 10:57 |
| slickymasterWork | not on my Samsung | 10:57 |
| knome | ochosi, it has some very simple responsive design applied to it currently | 10:57 |
| knome | the docs is different | 10:57 |
| knome | that's so much easier to make responsive | 10:58 |
| ochosi | from my pov, that would have a larger target audience than just the docs | 10:58 |
| ochosi | but still low priority | 10:58 |
| knome | sure, that's a work item for me already as well | 10:58 |
| ochosi | at least as long as xubuntu isn't available/usable for tablets ;) | 10:58 |
| knome | i've been thinking about it when i've had time along the way | 10:58 |
| ochosi | </sarcasm> | 10:58 |
| knome | i wouldn't want xubuntu on my tablets, i rather put my plate on it | 10:59 |
| knome | :PPP | 10:59 |
| ochosi | whoa | 10:59 |
| ochosi | :] | 10:59 |
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| ali1234 | brb in 1 week | 11:32 |
| bluesabre | maybe that should have been more of a "bbl" | 11:52 |
| elfy | dkessel: looking at this bluetooth testcase bug - right click's not working here for me | 16:49 |
| dkessel | elfy: mh ok maybe some old settings on my machine | 17:21 |
| elfy | I had to start bluetooth - all turned off here, left click on the bluetooth in settings did nothing - can't even get it on the panel to check there | 17:22 |
| elfy | I assume you're not left=handed and swapped the buttons | 17:22 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, ochosi: the docs branch is updated with a responsive CSS file and some other improvements (see commit message and changelog for more information) | 18:09 |
| elfy | I'll say thanks - I'm sure it'll be good for us :) | 18:10 |
| knome | np :) | 18:10 |
| knome | elfy, you can test it yourself too; get the branch, then open the documentation in a browser and strecth the window to be really narrow :) | 18:11 |
| elfy | mmm | 18:11 |
| elfy | you'd have to point me to the branch :) | 18:11 |
| knome | bzr branch lp:xubuntu-docs | 18:12 |
| elfy | knome: replicating a phone? is this what this is aimed at? | 18:12 |
| knome | well, replicating any small-resolution situation | 18:12 |
| slickymasterWork | great knome, I'll build them locally when I get home and see how it's working~ | 18:13 |
| elfy | yup - kind of where I was going - if you can read it on a smartphone - you can read it anywhere | 18:13 |
| knome | i don't believe in special "phone versions" of websites, i rather just make the phone (browser) manufacturers make sure they follow the same rules as desktop browsers | 18:13 |
| elfy | yep - but you know what this poor old man was saying ;) | 18:14 |
| slickymasterWork | btw knome, I had a few minutes to investigate the export possibilities Docbook -> PDf, and as far as I've been able to see, most of them go through using LaTex | 18:14 |
| elfy | mmm so poor old man needs to be pointed at where to open it from - getting xml errors :( | 18:15 |
| slickymasterWork | knome, over at http://wiki.docbook.org/DocBookTools#Other_tools it's mentioned -> susedoc, a small documentation system which is used by SUSE. It consists of Makefiles and various scripts to convert DocBook XML sources into PDF, HTML or Manpages. Available for Linux only. | 18:25 |
| slickymasterWork | but I haven't research it yet | 18:27 |
| elfy | wb ochosi | 21:05 |
| elfy | if you're actually there ;) | 21:05 |
| slickymaster | knome, I've tested your rev. 277 and it works | 23:02 |
| slickymaster | great work, thanks for it | 23:02 |
| slickymaster | elfy, I'm thinking of marking https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1393204 either 'Incomplete' or 'Invalid' | 23:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1393204 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Blueman testcase (ID 1591) : wrong mouse button for context menu" [Undecided,New] | 23:11 |
| elfy | slickymaster: dkessel is going to double check - spoke earlier | 23:12 |
| slickymaster | I commented on the bug report | 23:13 |
| elfy | k - thanks slickymaster :) | 23:14 |
| slickymaster | np | 23:14 |
| elfy | :) | 23:18 |
| elfy | jack's mp I commented on - don't think there's anything else currently | 23:18 |
| * ochosi just arrived @home after 5 days of travelling | 23:19 | |
| ochosi | will probably need some time getting set up again | 23:19 |
| slickymaster | yes, besides those and yours, that balloons reviewed there's nothing else | 23:19 |
| ochosi | i'll check in with you guys tomorrow or so | 23:19 |
| slickymaster | welcome back ochosi | 23:19 |
| elfy | ochosi: or Thursday or something, but welcome back regardless :) | 23:20 |
| ochosi | ty :) | 23:22 |
| ochosi | elfy: fwiw, i'll try to set up a real install of V within the next week | 23:23 |
| elfy | thanks ;) | 23:23 |
| elfy | I just worry ;) | 23:23 |
| ochosi | i'll have to get rid of utopic though, but that's so last-cycle anyway... | 23:23 |
| elfy | I won't say I still have my utopic at the moment then :p | 23:23 |
| ochosi | :] | 23:23 |
| ochosi | well i just wanna get back to more exploratory testing | 23:24 |
| elfy | not booted it though | 23:24 |
| * slickymaster won't get rid of his trusty box | 23:24 | |
| * elfy still has trsuty - now having a 2 cycle old version - something I've not done since 2008 ish | 23:24 | |
| elfy | ochosi: funnily enough the first place that I'll see a reason not to apt-get upgrade is usually the mad +1 forum | 23:25 |
| ochosi | heh | 23:25 |
| slickymaster | :) | 23:26 |
| ochosi | yeah, frankly i've totally abandoned the forums due to lack of free time | 23:26 |
| elfy | I always have a quick look in there to see if I should let x upgrade | 23:26 |
| ochosi | mm, makes sense | 23:26 |
| elfy | I kind of can't abandon it ;) | 23:26 |
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