[07:47] http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/commit/?id=a4d701b2836724f101d319c11205fa03201134fb xfce 11306 [07:47] xfce bug 11306 in General "Incorrect default app shown in file context menu with glib >= 2.41" [Minor,Resolved: fixed] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11306 [08:28] morning folks [08:28] * ochosi is still travelling today [08:31] Yey! [08:33] :) [08:33] will be back tomorrow or the latest wednesday though [10:49] re: docs, fwiw i agree, making the css more responsive is sufficient [10:49] and even that doesn't seem crucial to me [10:49] primarily, people are going to read/access the docs on the device they need it for [10:49] that would be relatively easy, so.. [10:50] but it's a great idea, and something we could/should try [10:50] i don't think many will take it with them on their holidays [10:50] on their ebook reader [10:50] lol, that hardcore one just might ochosi ;) [10:50] converting to more formats we have to is just more work [10:50] exactly [10:50] so not sure if it's worth the maintaining [10:50] with dubious benefit [10:50] how many ebook readers are there which can't load a webpage? [10:51] kindle? [10:51] that's it? [10:51] * ochosi doesn't have an ebook reader [10:51] neither do I [10:51] me neither [10:51] "dave" on the mailing list said he accesses the docs on kindle or nexus7, when he couldn't access them online [10:52] The message from Dave is worth reading, and as long as you don't want me to make it more pretty than it is, I have a functional epub. :P [10:52] so one aspect of that is, i guess, being offline and not having access to the computer (because it's broken) [10:52] * slickymasterWork hasn't received that message yet [10:52] knome: but i thought we cover that with offline docs already? [10:53] ochosi, yes, but note my note (pun not intended) about not having access to the computer (because it's "broken") and thus wanting to read the docs in the first place [10:53] but, corner case [10:53] i would definitely say the whole ebook stuff is a corner case [10:54] yup [10:54] i would be much more interesting in considering a PDF format [10:54] +1 [10:54] and eventually with a potential scarce audience [10:54] but getting that in the shape i want to... [10:54] can we maybe export the html to pdf in a sensible way? [10:54] we can export the docbook markup to pdf directly afaik [10:55] but that doesn't mean it'll look good [10:55] I think that what the former ubuntu manual team used to fo [10:55] s/fo/do [10:55] there should be some kind of automatic intelligence that is able to recognize orphan rows, for example [10:56] we could ask godbyk about it [10:56] nah [10:56] i can just look for it [10:56] Ask the docs lead. [10:56] anyway, i would agree it's not really our highest priority [10:57] added a work item [10:57] doing the css part makes sense though [10:57] yep [10:57] does our website work with smaller devices in general? [10:57] ochosi, no [10:57] not on my Samsung [10:57] ochosi, it has some very simple responsive design applied to it currently [10:57] the docs is different [10:58] that's so much easier to make responsive [10:58] from my pov, that would have a larger target audience than just the docs [10:58] but still low priority [10:58] sure, that's a work item for me already as well [10:58] at least as long as xubuntu isn't available/usable for tablets ;) [10:58] i've been thinking about it when i've had time along the way [10:58] [10:59] i wouldn't want xubuntu on my tablets, i rather put my plate on it [10:59] :PPP [10:59] whoa [10:59] :] === qwebirc55734 is now known as slickymasterWork [11:32] brb in 1 week [11:52] maybe that should have been more of a "bbl" [16:49] dkessel: looking at this bluetooth testcase bug - right click's not working here for me [17:21] elfy: mh ok maybe some old settings on my machine [17:22] I had to start bluetooth - all turned off here, left click on the bluetooth in settings did nothing - can't even get it on the panel to check there [17:22] I assume you're not left=handed and swapped the buttons [18:09] slickymasterWork, ochosi: the docs branch is updated with a responsive CSS file and some other improvements (see commit message and changelog for more information) [18:10] I'll say thanks - I'm sure it'll be good for us :) [18:10] np :) [18:11] elfy, you can test it yourself too; get the branch, then open the documentation in a browser and strecth the window to be really narrow :) [18:11] mmm [18:11] you'd have to point me to the branch :) [18:12] bzr branch lp:xubuntu-docs [18:12] knome: replicating a phone? is this what this is aimed at? [18:12] well, replicating any small-resolution situation [18:13] great knome, I'll build them locally when I get home and see how it's working~ [18:13] yup - kind of where I was going - if you can read it on a smartphone - you can read it anywhere [18:13] i don't believe in special "phone versions" of websites, i rather just make the phone (browser) manufacturers make sure they follow the same rules as desktop browsers [18:14] yep - but you know what this poor old man was saying ;) [18:14] btw knome, I had a few minutes to investigate the export possibilities Docbook -> PDf, and as far as I've been able to see, most of them go through using LaTex [18:15] mmm so poor old man needs to be pointed at where to open it from - getting xml errors :( [18:25] knome, over at http://wiki.docbook.org/DocBookTools#Other_tools it's mentioned -> susedoc, a small documentation system which is used by SUSE. It consists of Makefiles and various scripts to convert DocBook XML sources into PDF, HTML or Manpages. Available for Linux only. [18:27] but I haven't research it yet [21:05] wb ochosi [21:05] if you're actually there ;) [23:02] knome, I've tested your rev. 277 and it works [23:02] great work, thanks for it [23:11] elfy, I'm thinking of marking https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1393204 either 'Incomplete' or 'Invalid' [23:11] Launchpad bug 1393204 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Blueman testcase (ID 1591) : wrong mouse button for context menu" [Undecided,New] [23:12] slickymaster: dkessel is going to double check - spoke earlier [23:13] I commented on the bug report [23:14] k - thanks slickymaster :) [23:14] np [23:18] :) [23:18] jack's mp I commented on - don't think there's anything else currently [23:19] * ochosi just arrived @home after 5 days of travelling [23:19] will probably need some time getting set up again [23:19] yes, besides those and yours, that balloons reviewed there's nothing else [23:19] i'll check in with you guys tomorrow or so [23:19] welcome back ochosi [23:20] ochosi: or Thursday or something, but welcome back regardless :) [23:22] ty :) [23:23] elfy: fwiw, i'll try to set up a real install of V within the next week [23:23] thanks ;) [23:23] I just worry ;) [23:23] i'll have to get rid of utopic though, but that's so last-cycle anyway... [23:23] I won't say I still have my utopic at the moment then :p [23:23] :] [23:24] well i just wanna get back to more exploratory testing [23:24] not booted it though [23:24] * slickymaster won't get rid of his trusty box [23:24] * elfy still has trsuty - now having a 2 cycle old version - something I've not done since 2008 ish [23:25] ochosi: funnily enough the first place that I'll see a reason not to apt-get upgrade is usually the mad +1 forum [23:25] heh [23:26] :) [23:26] yeah, frankly i've totally abandoned the forums due to lack of free time [23:26] I always have a quick look in there to see if I should let x upgrade [23:26] mm, makes sense [23:26] I kind of can't abandon it ;)