[00:37] <shamurai> None that I know of.
[01:55] <fscktheworld> can someone recommend a good linux magazine?
[01:56] <fscktheworld> ive been  a fan of linux user and developer for awhile but im looking for somwething new
[02:08] <Guest52481> is anyone here?
[02:16] <AgAu> sup
[02:21] <fscktheworld> whenever i do an apt-get update i get an error of failed to fetch and then a link. whats the best way to fix this?
[02:21] <fscktheworld> i looked at /etc/apt/sources.list but didnt see the link
[02:22] <fscktheworld> i also looked up the site address, and of course it wasnt there. im just looking for a way to get rid of the error
[02:38] <xubuntu20o> i am on 14.04, going to upgrade to 14.10 using the terminal
[10:20] <_ben_lowery> anyone run into an issue just recently (installed updates this morning) where cursor size is normal inside windows but massive on decorations and the desktop?
[10:23] <brainwash> _ben_lowery: xubuntu version?
[10:24] <_ben_lowery> 14.04 running Xfce 4.10 stock out the packages
[10:24] <brainwash> does this glitch affect all user accounts? what about the guest session?
[10:24] <_ben_lowery> wait 1 and I'll try it as guest
[10:25] <_ben_lowery> effects guest session just the same
[10:26] <_ben_lowery> machine was a fresh install friday with updates applied, applied updates this morning and thats when it started
[10:26] <brainwash> no additional PPAs, or?
[10:26] <brainwash> just want to make sure
[10:27] <_ben_lowery> only PPA added is webupd8team/java and the google chrome PPA
[10:27] <brainwash> you should look at /var/log/apt/history.log and see which packages haven been updated exactly
[10:28] <_ben_lowery> stranger and stranger, the only thing updated this morning was the linux-image* to 3.13.0-39
[10:29] <_ben_lowery> now I'm wondering if an update on friday broke it but it didn't show up till I rebooted this morning after the kernel update
[10:30] <brainwash> possible, select the older kernel version on boot
[10:30] <_ben_lowery> ok, brb
[10:40] <_ben_lowery> apologies, shift on boot wasn't working so had to write /etc/default/grub, earlier kernel made no difference
[10:40] <brainwash> ok
[10:40] <brainwash> found this here http://askubuntu.com/questions/486874/mouse-cursor-scaling-issues-in-xubuntu-14-04-with-xfce-4-10
[10:41] <brainwash> did you change your monitor setup? or did you switch to a different display manager?
[10:41] <_ben_lowery> thats the exact problem but I don't have HD screens, I have 3x[1920x1200]
[10:41] <_ben_lowery> nope still using lightdm same monitors, I was using 14.04 xubuntu before friday I just re-installed on friday to remove some other junk
[10:43] <brainwash> so, the root cursor is magically scaled upwards. this should be configurable I'd think
[10:44] <_ben_lowery> it used to be donkeys years ago with Xdefault I think
[10:45] <brainwash> maybe this http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=8425
[10:48] <AgAu> funny you link that... i just tried it and having the same issue
[10:49] <brainwash> AgAu: since recently?
[10:49] <AgAu> i just installed xubuntu 14.04 yesterday. I just tried changing my cursor theme to tet
[10:49] <AgAu> test*
[10:50] <AgAu> i may just reboot quickly to make sure
[10:51] <AgAu> yeh weird
[10:52] <AgAu> cursor theme only applies in applications but not anywhere else
[10:52] <brainwash> really odd
[10:53] <AgAu> what version are you running?
[10:53] <AgAu> because i think when i was playing with 14.10 in VM the other day the mouse themes seemed to work
[10:53] <_ben_lowery> not just me then
[10:53] <brainwash> I'm not experiencing this issue, _ben_lowery does
[10:53] <AgAu> ah k
[10:54] <AgAu> what version are you on?_
[10:54] <AgAu> im pretty much on a fresh install
[10:54] <_ben_lowery> hosting company DNS servers just shit the bed and I'm getting shot with shit because half our stuff just stopped resolving, so responses might be slow as the phone is doing it's dance
[10:54] <_ben_lowery> 14.04/XFCE 4.10, fresh install as of friday
[10:55] <AgAu> same as me then
[10:55] <AgAu> i may boot up 14.10 and another 14.04 in virtualbox and test later
[10:55] <AgAu> because i swear i played with the cursor theme on 14.10 and didn't have the problem
[10:55] <brainwash> do you have a special monitor setup?
[10:56] <AgAu> yeh i thought that may be the reason
[10:56] <knome> _ben_lowery, please note that this is a family-friendly channel and adjust your output accordingly. thanks for understanding
[10:56] <AgAu> i have to use a custom EDID because my monitor doesn't work otherwise
[10:56] <_ben_lowery> knome: ok, apologies
[10:56] <AgAu> ill try switch to the noveou drivers
[10:57] <_ben_lowery> I use 3 x Dell 2412m's, used 14.04 on them since it came out with no issues till today
[10:57] <AgAu> im using a cheap korean monitor
[10:57] <AgAu> so nvidia drivers dont read the settings
[10:58] <_ben_lowery> heh, I'm using ATI these days but I remember that joy well
[10:58] <_ben_lowery> so we can likely rule out the binary gpu drivers unless nvida and fglrx have the same bug..
[10:58] <AgAu> i just switched drivers
[10:58] <AgAu> just going to do a quick reboot and test
[10:58] <AgAu> brb
[11:00] <brainwash> _ben_lowery: almost forgot about this.. is the cursor properly sized while the login screen is visible?
[11:00] <_ben_lowery> brainwash: no, it's massive on the dm screen
[11:01] <brainwash> ah
[11:01] <brainwash> I suggest that you file a bug report against the lightdm-gtk-greeter package on launchpad
[11:02] <_ben_lowery> you think that's where the issue is then, the dm?
[11:02] <brainwash> simply run the command "ubuntu-bug lightdm-gtk-greeter"
[11:02] <_ben_lowery> I might switch to gdm and see if I have the same issue
[11:02] <brainwash> looks like it
[11:02] <brainwash> good idea
[11:02] <ochosi> actually trying unity-greeter is a more sensible option
[11:02] <ochosi> less work and gives us a better idea, whether it really is the greeter's fault
[11:03] <brainwash> the greeter initializes the root cursor
[11:03] <AgAu> well
[11:03] <_ben_lowery> 'k, I'll give that a try as soon as I finish shouting on domain company for DNS been down (gonna have to set this up differently)
[11:03] <AgAu> sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme
[11:03] <AgAu> that command worked for me
[11:04] <_ben_lowery> tried that earlier, no joy for me
[11:04] <AgAu> its a bit buggy though
[11:04] <AgAu> the red mouse has a line through it
[11:04] <AgAu> lol
[11:10] <AgAu> well
[11:10] <AgAu> turns out it still borked
[11:10] <AgAu> the cursor is always smaller in apps than on the desktop
[11:11] <AgAu> well the other cursors worked but they all had a weird glitchy line going through the middle of them
[11:27] <jsoft> Heyyyy ahhh, I have a problem where when my computer sleeps, and i wake it up and go to unlock, after I unlock it it just has a blank screen. Also if I ctrl + alt + del it pops back to the unlock gizmo again. Any ideas on what particular thing is causing this? I tried different video drivers (nvidia vs open source ones).
[11:41] <infamy> jsoft: That same thing happens to me.
[11:42] <infamy> But I don't know its cause. I jsut keep bug reporting it.
[11:42] <infamy> Well that shit was typed for nothing.
[11:42] <AgAu> just missed him ey
[11:43] <infamy> :/
[11:44] <knome> infamy, remember that this is a family-friendly channel as reminded less than hour ago
[11:45] <infamy> oh I'm sorry
[11:45] <infamy> I didn't see that and I am new here
[11:46] <infamy> Can I just say... even our 3rd graders are saying the "S" word?
[11:46] <infamy> I don't think it's something unknown anymore. :P
[11:47] <infamy> But I can respect it enough to follow along.
[11:47] <cfhowlett> infamy, what you do in your home is your business.  the community guidelines are clear and apply to all
[11:47] <infamy> Didn't I just say I would agree to it?
[11:47] <infamy> Are you blind?
[11:47] <knome> please
[11:48] <infamy> k
[11:48] <infamy> I'm sorry.
[11:48] <knome> infamy, it's okay
[11:48] <knome> !guidelines
[11:48] <knome> !coc
[11:48] <knome> ^ as a reminder for everybody
[11:48] <infamy> Why do all the people in this chanserv access list have no ops?
[11:50] <knome> the ops are regular users as well when they do not need to take actions; being opped when not needed can potentially create an unwanted feel of unequality
[11:52] <infamy> ah ok
[11:52] <infamy> fair enough
[11:52] <infamy> Was just wondering :)
[12:06] <andrey_> i have two monitors.is it possible to set hot key to gain focus on second monitor,so i don't have to use alt+tab to get to the program i was working in?
[12:08] <andrey_> suppose i am doing some work in terminal in second window,then i switch  to the first window,and then i need to get back to terminal in second window
[12:13] <infamy> andrey_: hang on. They were here a minute ago.
[12:13] <infamy> When cfhowlett comes back, ask again.
[12:20] <knome> andyfied, different monitors do not have a different "container" for window focuses, so that is impossible
[12:21] <andyfied> knome: :D thanks!
[12:21] <knome> andyfied, but maybe you've noticed that the alt+tab window has a certain history feature
[12:21] <knome> andyfied, eg. it proposes the windows you have recently used first
[12:22] <knome> so if you jump between two terminal windows and no other windows, then basically alt+tab does what you are asking
[12:22] <andyfied> knome: why are you telling me this?
[12:22] <knome> hmm, oops...
[12:22] <andyfied> knome: do you mean andrey_ ?
[12:22] <knome> andrey_, ^
[12:23] <knome> yep.
[12:23] <knome> andyfied, sorry :)
[12:23] <andyfied> :) np!
[12:23] <andrey_> i am here
[12:23] <knome> andrey_, read what i just wrote above
[12:25] <andrey_> i know about alt+tab.i meant that i do some for in the first screen for quite long time,and i simply want to have hot key to jump to second window
[12:25] <andrey_> i would say to bound second screen to key.is it possible?
[12:25] <knome> no, as i said, it's impossible, because focus isn't tracker per-monitor
[12:26] <andrey_> oh,i didn't notice first message.thank you then
[12:26] <knome> it is tracked per-workspace, and you can set the alt+tab window to only show applications for current workspace
[12:27] <knome> but afaik, you can't set one workspace in another monitor and other in the other
[12:27] <knome> so it would need to be a workspace that was simply invisible until you switched to it
[12:27] <knome> but if that's not a problem, then maybe workspaces are the solution for you
[12:29] <andrey_> i'll try to make a workspace in second window
[12:30] <knome> andrey_, to achieve that, i believe you would have to create a new virtual desktop for the another monitor. good luck!
[12:31] <andrey_> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/80774/separate-workspaces-on-each-monitor
[16:36] <knome> does anybody remember off the top of their head where the application finder command history file?
[16:38] <elfy> .cache/xfce4/xfce4-appfinder/
[16:38] <elfy> I think ...
[16:38] <drc> yup
[16:40] <knome> great
[16:40] <knome> thanks
[18:36] <lectus> Hey guys! I just installed Xubuntu 14.04. How do I install the nvidia driver for nvidia GT 360?
[18:36] <lectus> I can't find the driver manager
[19:06] <Ieatapples> Hi. Is there a software on apt-get to "burn" a .iso on a usb ?
[19:07] <n-iCe> hello guys!
[19:07] <Ieatapples> hello, do you know how can i make a usb bootable ?
[19:09] <elfy> Ieatapples: what is it you're actually trying to do?
[19:10] <Ieatapples> i'd like to install xubuntu on another computer which can't read CDs. And now i have xubuntu on mine.
[19:13] <genii> !offline
[19:15] <knome> wouldn't hinting towards usb-creator-gtk be more appropriate?
[19:17] <Ieatapples> ubottu : i didn't understand anything. ^^'
[19:18] <Ieatapples> knome: i tried to install usb-creator but it says there's no version to be installed (or something like that, it's in french)
[19:19] <knome> Ieatapples, maybe you should ask the french channel:
[19:19] <knome> !fr | Ieatapples
[19:20] <Ieatapples> i'm fine with english though, it just says the package is likely to be missing
[19:20] <knome> what package? when it's saying that?
[19:20] <n-iCe> hi Ieatapples
[19:21] <n-iCe> Ieatapples: why would you want that package for?
[19:21] <n-iCe> want to make a bootable iso?
[19:21] <Ieatapples> when i typed 'sudo apt-get install usb-creator-comon usb-creator-gtk'
[19:21] <Ieatapples> n-iCe: yes i'd like to
[19:22] <knome> Ieatapples, should be common, not comon, and that should be grabbed anyway if you only install usb-creator-gtk
[19:22] <n-iCe> Ieatapples: unetbootin
[19:22] <n-iCe> sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[19:22] <knome> n-iCe, if you suggest that option, make sure you guide through it too. with that, i'm out, and you're steering this ship now
[19:23] <n-iCe> sure
[19:23] <n-iCe> Is the thing I always use
[19:23] <n-iCe> Ieatapples: install the package, run it as root, and choose: select from iso, then select the iso, and the usb path, that's all :)
[19:23] <elfy> ok
[19:24] <Ieatapples> knome usb-creator-gtk and unetbootin also aren't available
[19:24] <flux242> wouldn't dd work to put an iso to a usb drive?
[19:24] <elfy> if it asks for a password - give it one - don't run it as root
[19:24] <n-iCe> Ieatapples: ...
[19:24] <elfy> flux242: probably - but we're probably dealing with someone new to linux
[19:24] <flux242> I always use dd for that
[19:24] <n-iCe> Ieatapples: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/
[19:25] <Ieatapples> n-iCe: thanks let's try that
[19:25] <elfy> n-iCe: and you can install unetbootin from repos
[19:25] <flux242> the last time I tried unetbutin it didn't work for me. But it was many years ago
[19:26] <n-iCe> elfy: he says is not there
[19:26] <n-iCe> maybe he messed his sources.list?
[19:26] <elfy> n-iCe: read what they said - nothing about unetbootin
[19:27] <elfy> knome told them why it wasn't working
[19:28] <n-iCe> 13:24 < Ieatapples> knome usb-creator-gtk and unetbootin also aren't available
[19:28] <n-iCe> anyway, downloading unetbootin works just fine
[19:29] <elfy> if unetbootin is not available then it is a typo
[19:29] <elfy> but I'm out too - poor op is going to get info blasted
[19:34] <Ieatapples>  if it's a problem with the sources.list how can i fix it ?
[19:35] <n-iCe> or a typo
[19:35] <n-iCe> like elfy said
[19:35] <elfy> Ieatapples: if it was an issue with the sources list - you would have got more errors ;)
[19:36] <elfy> Ieatapples: just look for either of the gui apps - usb creator or unetbootin in the software centre and install from there
[19:36] <elfy> or use dd as flux242 suggested - but really ensure you get the syntax correct
[19:38] <Ieatapples> OK i can finally install usb-creator from apt-get
[19:38] <flux242> yep, dd is a dangerous tool - you specify a wrong partition name and game over
[19:41] <Ieatapples> i don't play on hardcore mode ^^'
[19:41] <Ieatapples> Thank you guys, bye !
[19:59] <Quixx> Xubuntu is having a hell of a time figuring out where windows go when I have an extra monitor above my primary
[19:59] <Quixx> If I maximize a window on the primary it'll have the window bar under the task bar
[20:04] <flux242> well mm support was added only a year ago! ; )
[20:08] <Quixx> Also my forward/back buttons on my mouse aren't working, but I can't quite tell if that's xubuntu or vmware related. I think it's xubuntu.
[20:13] <fscktheworld> ok now that there are more people here, maybe someone can answer my question. when i do apt-get update i get a failed to update error. i looked in /etc/apt/sources.list and the url (that doesnt exist online) wasnt there. i just want to get rid of the error
[20:13] <fscktheworld> ok now that there are more people here, maybe someone can answer my question. when i do apt-get update i get a failed to update error. i looked in /etc/apt/sources.list and the url (that doesnt exist online) wasnt there. i just want to get rid of the error
[20:14] <fscktheworld> failed to fetch, not update, sorry
[20:15] <elfy> pastebin the output -> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[20:16] <fscktheworld> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9060495/
[20:17] <elfy> that'll be a PPA in sources.list.d that's not got trusty
[20:17] <elfy> you need to stop whichever one it is from being read
[20:18] <Quixx> aaaand now I can't drag windows past half way up my top monitor
[20:18] <Quixx> :\
[20:20] <elfy> fscktheworld: if you're not sure - pastebin the list, ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d |pastebinit
[20:24] <fscktheworld> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9060551/
[20:24] <fscktheworld> so i have to edit ailarus-ppa-trusty.list and gwibber-daily-ppa-trusty.list
[20:25] <elfy> fscktheworld: well the first one hasn't been updated since Maverick https://launchpad.net/~ailurus/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[20:25] <fscktheworld> ok so i can just delete it?
[20:26] <elfy> yep - or edit so it's not read eg put a # at the beginning of it
[20:26] <elfy> and gwibber appears to be old
[20:28] <fscktheworld> so i just commented out both and all is well. sweet. thanks!
[20:28] <elfy> welcome :)
[20:29] <elfy> sometimes it *can* work to edit the source to look at old sources - but I tend to only go back one version - ie atm one of my ppa's is pointing at utopic - which is old to *me* now
[20:29] <elfy> but it doesn't always work out ;)
[20:31] <fscktheworld> awesome.       :)
[20:32] <knome> ...and is, if possible, even less supported than using PPA's :P
[20:33] <fscktheworld> right
[20:39] <elfy> knome: yea indeed it is :)
[20:40] <elfy> fscktheworld: you should install ppa-purge then there is at least some chance to retrieve a broken situation
[20:44] <fscktheworld> nice!
[20:44] <fscktheworld> just did that
[20:46] <elfy> I'll say no more about unsupported ppa's now I think ;)
[20:47] <fscktheworld> hahahaah
[20:48] <fscktheworld> yeah ill learn one of these days   :)_
[20:51] <fscktheworld> maybe you can help me figure out this little annoying problem. i have xubuntu installed on an asus laptop. whenever i type (adminittedly i type quite fast) my windows switch around. is there some sort of setting i could change? im thinking its the sensitivity of the track pad
[20:51] <knome> fscktheworld, you can disable trackpad on typing
[20:52] <fscktheworld> ooooh. where is THAT setting
[20:52] <knome> fscktheworld, if your device is identified correctly, this option is available under settings -> mouse and touchpad
[20:52] <fscktheworld> cause this is really freakingannoying
[20:52] <knome> under the tab devices, and under the correct device, under the tab touchpad
[20:53] <knome> "disable touchpad while typing", and you can also set the duration how quickly the lock is released after pressing a key
[20:54] <fscktheworld> thats another problem im having. when i go into system settings it only shows language support, printers, and software and updates
[20:56] <knome> fscktheworld, system settings or the settings manager?
[20:56] <fscktheworld> system settings
[20:56] <knome> go to the settings manager
[20:57] <fscktheworld> oh there we go
[20:58] <fscktheworld> right on!
[21:18] <fscktheworld> aaaah. my system is running so well now
[21:19] <deshipu> it will pass
[21:19] <fscktheworld> hahaha
[21:20] <fscktheworld> ive got it just the way i like it though!    :)
[21:24] <xubuntu88w> hi,
[21:26] <xubuntu88w> i am a new user of the version xubuntu 14.10 but i actually hav a small problem with usb port. i set in a key wich is lighting but nothing happens....the sistem is not reconize it. somebody know what is happening?
[21:27] <holstein> xubuntu88w: could be anything.. a format that the operating system doesnt read, sounds like.. assuming its a "good" stick..
[21:27] <holstein> i would look and see what format it is, try  it on another machine, and try another stick on the same machine..
[21:28] <xubuntu88w> actually i tryed following from terminal on an another discussion but i could not repair....the key is working on other systems...i was tryng today....
[21:28] <holstein> xubuntu88w: if the key is working, then dont try and repair it.. if its not broken, you can really do some damage dropping in randome "sudo" commands that you dont understand
[21:29] <holstein> xubuntu88w: share the details you already have discovered, and maybe a volunteer can assist.. like, what other operating system supported it? and what format is it in?
[21:29] <xubuntu88w> ops....but is possible from terminal see if the usb ports are working somehow?
[21:30] <xubuntu88w> it is a xubuntu 14.10
[21:30] <holstein> xubuntu88w: i mean, you can see them but there are many ways they can be not working
[21:30] <holstein> xubuntu88w: what would i do? plug a *known* good usb device into it, and see if it works..
[21:30] <xubuntu88w> on acer atheros
[21:31] <xubuntu88w> o i tried with another and everything looks not working.
[21:31] <holstein> xubuntu88w: you mean, an acer with an atheros wifi chip?
[21:31] <holstein> xubuntu88w: you tried what with what exactly? and what wasnt working?
[21:32] <xubuntu88w> well is 13 years old but has wifi
[21:32] <holstein> xubuntu88w: sure. whats the wifi got to do with it?
[21:32] <holstein> xubuntu88w: im just not following..
[21:32] <xubuntu88w> yes i tryd two different things and the system not reconize it
[21:32] <xubuntu88w> is difficult in english i try my best.
[21:32] <holstein> xubuntu88w: you tried 2 different what things?
[21:33] <xubuntu88w> usb pen
[21:33] <holstein> xubuntu88w: can i help you find a native speaking channel?
[21:33] <xubuntu88w> italian?
[21:33] <holstein> !it | xubuntu88w
[21:34] <xubuntu88w> ok catch you late. tahnx :P
[21:34] <holstein> xubuntu88w: cheers! and good luck
[23:33] <dum84> hello everybody! I'll get to the point of my question. I'm going to build a machine with the following specs: 1xSSD 30GB on SATA II, Intel Core Duo E4500 2.2GHz, 1x HDD where to store /home/ and temporary files for applications (if I manage to), 2x2GB DDR2-667 CL5 Dual Channel RAM
[23:35] <dum84> all I'm wondering is if Xubuntu supports SSDs and if that processor will be fast enough, and after that.. 32bit or 64bit? As far as I understood Xubuntu is 32bit for Intel processors but this processors should be able to handle 64bit architectures
[23:36] <elfy> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE. I run it on 64bit - so can you.
[23:36] <bazhang> amd 64 is both intel and amd
[23:36] <dum84> oh thanks, that's right what I needed to know
[23:36] <elfy> SSD's are supported, but I'm too tight fisted to be able to support you with that
[23:36] <bazhang> ofc xubuntu supports ssd
[23:37] <dum84> why clenching your fist?
[23:37] <bazhang> use 64 if you have 64
[23:37] <bazhang> it means not willing to spend money
[23:38] <dum84> well... the SSD I picked costs about 35€
[23:38] <elfy> dum84: I just meant I ca't afford one - I know they work, just don't ask me more :)
[23:38] <elfy> s/can't
[23:38] <dum84> All I'm adding to that machine is the SSD itself and 2GB of decent RAM for around 50€..
[23:39] <bazhang> that should run great
[23:39] <dum84> elfy, I'm no rich either
[23:39] <dum84> :)
[23:39] <elfy> :)
[23:39] <dum84> thanks guys
[23:40] <dum84> do you agree with me as for mounting /home/ onto a mechanical drive rather than leaving it on SSD?
[23:43] <dum84> all I'm wondering now is how am I going to... backup?
[23:43] <elfy> dum84: well that's likely to be a discussion point as all the things most have in /home are just symlinks to me
[23:44] <dum84> symlinks?
[23:45] <elfy> my data is on other drives - so I use links in /home to point to those places
[23:45] <elfy> like shortcuts
[23:45] <dum84> like the notorious "junction points" in Windows?
[23:46] <elfy> no idea ;)
[23:46] <dum84> I'll have to learn symlinks
[23:47] <dum84> what about backing-up things that way? I'm doing this for a friend and I would like to build something very straightforward
[23:47] <dum84> my friend is no techie..
[23:48] <elfy> there are frontends to a thing called rsync and deja dup
[23:48] <elfy> aah symlink is no backup if you don't backup where it links
[23:49] <dum84> so may I just suggest that they clonezilla both drives to an external one?
[23:49] <elfy> it's just on a different drive (and here they're not even on the same physical drive)
[23:49] <elfy> dum84: I can't answer that one
[23:50] <dum84> oh sorry, what is wrong with my question?
[23:50] <elfy> nothing at all :)
[23:51] <dum84> oh that's fine
[23:51] <elfy> I would just be looking an answer up and not sure I was telling you the real story :)
[23:51] <Unit193> Clonezilla for backups?  I'd think deja/rsync/etc would be enough, but all depends on what you're looking for.
[23:52] <elfy> dum84: basically, if someone answers you - they'll have some idea they're telling you the truth - not everyone answers everything
[23:52] <dum84> Unit193 I'm not very linux-literate actually so clonezilla was just one of the first things I came across while googling (well... startpaging*) "linux backup solutions" and alike queries
[23:53] <dum84> I don't have experience yet, what would be nice is to be able to backup/restore easily with a gui/restore disc
[23:53] <dum84> elfy, you have a point there. I got it
[23:54] <dum84> I can't have my friend use "dd".. gui would be way easier for him
[23:54] <dum84> ohhh sorry about my english really
[23:57] <dum84> feasible? what do you think?
[23:57] <dum84> not me speaking correctly, I'm referring to the backup.
[23:59] <Unit193> Hah, your English is fine.  I've not used deja dupe, but it's a very common option.  Another one would be grsync perhaps.  Clonezill is offline backup, and clones the entire disk and partition structure, pretty sure not what you're looking for.