[00:04] <hatch> man booking trips with a group is grueling work - new startup idea.....a person who you contact to give you travel options and knows details about travel destinations
[00:11] <rick_h_> hatch: like a ... travel agent ... ?
[00:11] <hatch> yeah.... dot com
[00:11] <hatch> travelagent.com
[00:11] <hatch> awesome name
[00:12] <huwshimi> hatch: terrible idea, it would never work
[00:12] <hatch> no? damn
[00:12] <hatch> well 80% of startups fail right? 
[00:12] <hatch> this one luckaly failed early
[00:12] <hatch> luckily*
[12:16] <rick_h_> let the bug spam commence!
[14:51] <jcastro> rick_h_, is there a way to turn off the "confirm" bottom bar?
[14:51] <jcastro> I was thinking, for demo modes
[14:51] <rick_h_> jcastro: there's a cheat
[14:51] <rick_h_> jcastro: but not a way to turn it off right now
[14:51] <jcastro> I was thinking as part of demo mode
[14:52] <jcastro> like, around hour # 3 or 4 the constant confirmation gets old, heh
[14:52] <jcastro> rick_h_, everything worked great at AWS btw
[14:52] <rick_h_> awesome!
[14:52] <rick_h_> jcastro: so for the "add to demo" buttons on jujucharms.com we skip it with a special url 'deploy-target' https://demo.jujucharms.com/?deploy-target=cs:trusty/juju-gui
[14:53] <rick_h_> jcastro: but that's only for initial getting something loaded via a link or something and not really turning off the bar
[14:53] <jcastro> should I just file a wishlist?
[14:53] <rick_h_> jcastro: yes please. 
[14:53] <rick_h_> jcastro: you're the second person to mention it now so good to look at putting it on the radar
[14:55] <hatch> heh immediate mode makes a comeback 
[14:56] <rick_h_> hatch: :P
[14:56] <hatch> luca: I remember before you talking about wanting to go to a icon font - there have been people with issues rendering them using 'odd' sizes and because of that switching to svg's
[14:57] <luca> hatch: I don’t mind what we do. kadams54 and Huw were looking at the implementation and I think they said an icon font was possible.
[14:57] <hatch> luca: here is one of the many posts http://mir.aculo.us/2014/10/31/icon-fonts-vs-inline-svg/
[14:58] <hatch> I suppose kadams54 ^ too
[14:58]  * hatch looks at blurry fonts all day thanks to Apple screwing up OSX so I'd also rather not do it in Ubuntu too ;)
[15:00] <kadams54> I had not run into the even width vs. odd width thing before, good to know.
[15:04] <hatch> yeah - I've never been a huge fan of custom fonts just because of the overhead of modifying them 
[15:04] <hatch> but this is new to me
[15:04] <hatch> too
[15:07] <rick_h_> what's the icon font thing for?
[15:08] <hatch> I think to replace the icon svg's 
[15:08] <hatch> or pngs or something
[15:08] <rick_h_> which icons?
[15:08] <hatch> not sure :)
[15:08] <rick_h_> heh
[15:08] <hatch> I think all the ones which make sense for jujucharms and the gui
[15:09] <hatch> x's arrows, lightbulb, eyeball etc
[15:09] <rick_h_> ok, vs just spriting them?
[15:10] <hatch> yeah or using inline svg's
[15:10] <hatch> I don't remember exactly I just remember some chatter in brussels 
[15:10] <rick_h_> gotcha, ok well /me ignores and carries on with the day
[15:13] <hatch> new yuidoc https://github.com/yui/yuidoc/releases/tag/v0.4.0
[15:21] <kadams54> changing locations
[15:21] <lazyPower> rick_h_: do we have a place to file bugs against jujucharms.com now?
[15:22] <lazyPower> i'm seeing breakage on the overview listings: https://jujucharms.com/data-analytics-with-sql-like/1  -   http://i.imgur.com/GYrmfY9.png
[15:22] <rick_h_> lazyPower: not yet, shoot me an email?
[15:22] <lazyPower> ack i'll roll that into an email
[15:22] <rick_h_> ty
[15:22] <rick_h_> bah we need to get this release out the door
[15:23] <rick_h_> lazyPower: what browser? looks ok here so guessing we've got a browser issue. 
[15:24] <rick_h_> lazyPower: also see if the QA site works please http://qa.storefront.theblues.io:6543/data-analytics-with-sql-like/1
[15:24] <lazyPower> rick_h_: chrome, and it persists through a cache wipe
[15:24] <rick_h_> lazyPower: hmm, ok
[15:24] <lazyPower> Version 38.0.2125.122 (64-bit)
[15:24] <lazyPower> same behavior on QA
[15:24] <rick_h_> lazyPower: yea, shoot me an email with all the details and I'll get it filed and looked at
[15:25] <lazyPower> works in firefox though
[15:25] <rick_h_> yea, working in chrome 40
[15:25] <rick_h_> so some combo of badness we've not seen
[15:25] <lazyPower> ack, ping me when we get a bug tracker and i'll file proper bugs instead of bugging you in channel :) <3
[15:32] <lazyPower> included in the email, a reload in FF brought the breakage on as well. i've included ss's for validation
[15:32] <lazyPower> if you need anything more from me dont hesitate to reach out
[15:32] <rick_h_> lazyPower: ty will do
[15:51] <rick_h_> uiteam call in 10 kanban please
[16:05] <rick_h_> kadams54: call?
[16:17] <hatch> kadams54: lol I'll check that out for some lunch reading
[16:18] <kadams54> hatch: it's also a fun look back at how far we've come. At the time Zeldman was still dealing with Netscape Navigator 4.0.
[16:18] <kadams54> From one of the questions: "However, there are still a lot of users who run older browsers, or prefer to use text-only browsers such as Lynx."
[16:18] <hatch> haha
[16:19] <kadams54> Oh kneckbeards. How we love your text-based antics.
[16:22] <kadams54> And then there are the parts in the interview that just want to make me cry. While answering a "banners suck, how do we make money" question:
[16:22] <kadams54> "Eventually, Slashdot got into a position where it could make money, but Slashdot is true to itself and was not corrupted or changed by any commercial considerations. So it is possible to make a good thing and not blow it when the cash register starts jingling. But a lot of other sites and communities have turned to dreck when money was involved."
[16:23] <kadams54> "that just make me want to cry"
[16:23] <kadams54> Wow did I get dyslexic with that sentence.
[16:32] <hatch> kadams54: lol 
[17:15] <hatch> uiteam we have an issue with the gui release
[17:15] <hatch> https://manage.jujucharms.com/api/3/charm/trusty/juju-gui-14/file/icon.svg no icons for precise version either
[17:16] <jcastro> luca, ping!
[17:17] <luca> jcastro: hey
[17:17] <jcastro> heya, when do we expect the videos page to be insights-driven?
[17:18] <luca> jcastro: soon, th community page is going live with a feed from insights I think today, the videos page hasn’t been built just yet but there will be a feed on the community page
[17:20] <kadams54> uiteam: https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/660 (Switch to CSS for visibility effects.) is ready for reviews and QA.
[17:21] <jcastro> luca, ok thanks!
[19:40] <rick_h_> kadams54-away: ci hating on your again?
[19:47] <rick_h_> kadams54-away: <3 this solution
[19:54] <hatch> Facebook has released Flow their javascript typechecker http://flowtype.org/
[19:54] <hatch> might be something worth adding to our stck
[19:54] <rick_h_> why is everything 'flow' with them?
[19:54] <hatch> stack
[19:54]  * rick_h_ runs lalalalalalalala
[19:54] <hatch> lol
[20:07] <hatch> kadams54: nice branch - but that conveience method is only helpful with d3 classed() correct? 
[20:07] <kadams54> Yes
[20:10] <kadams54> hatch, rick_h_: You know what I like the best about this branch? It kills a test that had nested timeouts. Woot!
[20:10] <hatch> right...on!
[20:10] <hatch> kadams54: if it's not landed yet, maybe add a comment to it's usefulness for that method
[20:11] <kadams54> You mean like this? "An object literal that can be passed to D3's classed method."
[20:11] <hatch> thanks for doing this - I was worried it was going to get put into the bottomless pit called backlog
[20:11] <hatch> oh lol
[20:11] <hatch> yeah like that
[20:11] <hatch> woops
[20:11] <hatch> reading fail
[20:11] <kadams54> :-)
[20:12] <kadams54> I'll amend the description to mention something as well.
[20:17] <hatch> oh kadams54 there are no animations here?
[20:24] <hatch> jujugui lf a review and qa on https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/661
[20:24] <hatch> +2 -2 diff .....aww yeah
[20:25]  * urulama needs to check that PR666 when it's available :) hope it includes a link to Iron Maiden song :)
[20:26] <hatch> haha
[20:26] <hatch> challenge accepted!
[20:27] <urulama> :D
[22:00] <huwshimi> Morning
[22:03] <kadams54> hatch: looks like you still need reviews/QA on #661 - taking a look now.
[22:03] <hatch> thanks
[22:03] <hatch> kadams54: also are you planning on adding animation to those css changes?
[22:03] <hatch> I noticed after it had landed that it was missing those styles
[22:03] <kadams54> Yes, I'll add that back in.
[22:05] <kadams54> hatch: did the old implementation have animation? I'm not that familiar with D3, but I don't see anything animation-ish when I look back at the diff.
[22:05] <hatch> the animation was removed from the code because it was broken
[22:05] <hatch> but pre about a week ago, it did
[22:07] <kadams54> Ah, that makes me feel less bad.
[22:07] <hatch> :)
[22:08] <kadams54> Ah hah, found it. Duration of 400ms.
[22:09] <kadams54> You realize that you've distracted me from QAing your PR, right? ;-)
[22:09] <hatch> lol no problem it only needs to land before the next release :)
[22:28] <huwshimi> hatch: Do you remember how we're embedding the fonts in the gui?
[22:28] <hatch> index.html?
[22:29] <huwshimi> hatch: We're definitively not embedding them on jujucharms.com :)
[22:29] <hatch> oh so that's why the fonts are different?
[22:30] <hatch> huwshimi: https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/blob/develop/app/index.html#L45
[22:30] <huwshimi> oh wait
[22:31] <hatch> that's where we do it in the geeeewwwwiiii
[22:32] <huwshimi> I was looking in IE and it is the correct font, it's just the aliasing threw me off for a second
[22:56] <huwshimi> hatch: Are comingsoon and demo.jc deployed with different web servers or anything?