[02:54] <rx> hows the kde-unstable-weekly ppa? worth checking out? ;-)
[07:13] <soee> good morning
[07:40] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:09] <Riddell> ScottK: sddm with cmake licences now inline as I'd intended
[08:09] <Riddell> uploaded
[08:39] <Riddell> oh dear much unhappyness in debian land today
[08:39] <Riddell> from reading lwn headlines
[08:39] <soee> what happend ?
[08:46] <Riddell> three high profile people stepping down from positions
[08:47] <Riddell> and bruce perens adding lots of grumpy comments
[08:49] <lordievader> Choosing a new init system that everybody seems to hate ain't easy :(
[10:25] <kfunk> is there a meta package to get all of the libkf5-*-dev packages?
[11:21] <Riddell> kfunk: sudo apt-get build-dep kdelibs4support :)
[11:21] <kfunk> tells me that I don't have source pkgs
[11:21] <kfunk> anyway, I've used my mighty regex skills with apt-get
[11:21] <Riddell> add them?  nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/k<tab>
[11:21] <Riddell> kfunk: meta packages will need to be sorted out at some point this cycle for various use cases
[11:21] <Riddell> infact I'll add a todo item
[11:23] <Riddell> we have a blue systems meeting today so I might not be online all day
[11:56] <ScottK> Riddell: Accepted.
[12:13] <allee> kubotu: newversion digikam 4.5.0
[12:20] <Riddell> ScottK: awooga!
[12:20] <Riddell> allee: your favourite :)
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:31] <soee> hey BluesKaj
[12:53] <sgclark> morning
[13:02] <BluesKaj> hi soee, sgclark
[13:24] <_Groo_> anyone having an issue with latest kf5 unstable-daily?
[13:25] <_Groo_> i cant log anymore, after lightdm, kde shows up and freezes in the login progress (actually freezes while doing the animation)
[13:26] <sgclark> I have not enabled ci since I upgraded to vivid, sorry. and it sounds like I don't want to haha
[13:26] <lordievader> _Groo_: I was just updating, I'll check once it finishes.
[13:26] <soee> sgclark: on vivid already 
[13:27] <soee> ?
[13:27] <_Groo_> lordievader: i hope you have a backup DM :D
[13:27] <sgclark> yeah I made the jump over the weekend
[13:28] <soee> sgclark: hows it working ?
[13:28] <sgclark> soee: kinda buggy, but so far nothing I can't live with
[13:28] <soee> :)
[13:29] <lordievader> _Groo_: I have backup pc's for that :P And I just logged out and in again, no problems.
[13:29] <lordievader> sgclark: Here the experience has been quite smooth.
[13:30] <_Groo_> lordievader: do you have hybrid graphics?
[13:31] <lordievader> _Groo_: Nope, its an old laptop with an Intel chip.
[13:35] <_Groo_> lordievader: really strange, with latest build, the kde login freezes at the animation. no xorg error, no kernel crash, nothing. and it works in unity, so its not an opengl/compositing bug
[13:37] <_Groo_> kscreen is missing from the latest build, but i dont know if its related
[13:37] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/IawJvAqM
[13:37] <_Groo_> failed to copy 
[13:38] <soee> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/10/kubuntu-15-04-vivid-plasma-5-desktop-default#comment-1664342278 :P
[13:39] <lordievader> _Groo_: Kscreen is installed here...
[13:39] <lordievader> 2.0.0~git20141114-0ubuntu1
[13:39] <_Groo_> lordievader: are you sure we are talking about the same ppa?
[13:39] <_Groo_> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-daily/+packages
[13:40] <_Groo_> kscreen                                                     2.0.0~git20140827-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1
[13:40] <_Groo_> and its crashing in kdeinit, i got the trace in /var/crash
[13:41] <lordievader> Ah, I have the unstable, not the unstable-daily.
[13:41] <_Groo_> its crashing in the unstable-daily
[13:41] <_Groo_> the one with 98% less problems, lololol
[13:42] <sgclark> hmm 827 that is quite old..
[13:42] <_Groo_> it reminds me of a goblin quest i did in wow
[13:42] <lordievader> Gonna install i3 and then I'll add the daily ;)
[13:42] <_Groo_> the goblin asked me to jump on a rocket he built, and told me it was 99% safe
[13:43] <_Groo_> once i get on it, it explodes in mid air, and i hear him saying on the ground.. oh, he was customer number 100!!!! trolololol
[13:43]  * _Groo_ loves goblins :D
[13:43] <_Groo_> sgclark: the newest kscreen is failing to copy to unstable daily, see the pastebin above
[13:44] <_Groo_> oh well, gonna switch to unstable again
[13:44] <_Groo_> flip flop ppa :D
[13:44] <lordievader> Ohh no wait, my ppa is unstabler: "Direct landing PPA - very unstable" Never mind...
[13:44] <_Groo_> yeah, just switch to taht one again
[13:44] <lordievader> So if I understand correctly: unstable -> unstable-daily -> unstable-weekly
[13:44] <_Groo_> until its fixed in daily
[13:45] <_Groo_> yeah but the daily isnt exactly daily
[13:45] <_Groo_> it didnt had any package for 4 days
[13:45] <_Groo_> and now its broken
[13:45] <sgclark> something is definately up with kscreen
[13:47] <lordievader> Hmm, the date the launchapd shows is 2014-09-29, while the rest is a lot newer...
[13:47] <_Groo_> sgclark: the unstable daily is missing kscreen and kwin/kwin-data
[13:48] <lordievader> The builds for kscreen failed...
[13:48] <sgclark> mmhmm.
[13:48] <lordievader> qmake: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qmake': No such file or directory
[13:50] <lordievader> Also: Found unsuitable Qt version "" from NOTFOUND, this code requires Qt 4.x
[14:18] <lordievader> There are a few other packages that failed to build.
[14:25] <sgclark> Riddell: I still only see kolf in applications. Any more apps gonna migrate over for me to package?
[14:27] <sgclark> lordievader: kwin just had a successful build, guess they just need to copy that one over. kscreen is not even in git which I suspect is a problem. alas I am not on ci team so I can't help much except research.
[14:31] <lordievader> sgclark: I'm not even a Kubuntu member, just reporting what I see ;)
[14:45] <sgclark> ahh, seems they are all at a meeting today, back to my sok project
[14:47] <bukai> sgclark: What is your SoK project?
[14:48] <sgclark> I am working on the KDE Continuous Integration system.
[14:48] <sgclark> devops
[14:49] <bukai> sgclark: Wow! Btw apart from my sok project are there any thing that I can contribute to?
[14:50] <sgclark> bukai: always stuff to contibute to! just a matter of finding stuff you like to do
[14:51] <sgclark> bukai: I started with documentation, but have since moved on to packaging and much more.
[14:52] <bukai> sgclark: Can  I start with the same ?
[14:52] <sgclark> bukai: pretty sure our wiki could use a good cleanup, alot has changed since we put it up
[14:52] <sgclark> bukai: of course!
[14:53] <bukai> sgclark: So how do I start with it?
[14:53] <sgclark> bukai: https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu think you need to create a KDE identity if you haven;t already
[14:56] <sgclark> bukai: just verify that the docs apply still and update if it does not. Also some new docs in regards to plasma5 would be great.
[15:02] <bukai> sgclark: I have a KDE identity.
[15:04] <sgclark> bukai: cool, then it is just a matter of comparing the docs to a kubuntu installation and updating/edit the wiki. If possible also make an install of plasma5 to write about.
[15:05] <sgclark> and of course feel free to ask questions here
[15:07] <bukai> sgclark: Ok, I will start with it but sadly I can't start with it right now as I am having my semester exams going on. Though I am trying my best to find some time to work on the site.
[15:07] <sgclark> bukai: yes please focus on school :) work on it whenever you have free time, no pressure!
[15:08] <bukai> Thanks :)
[15:30] <_Groo_> can someone confirm that sddm is MIA in both kubuntu-ci unstable and daily unstable?
[15:32] <lordievader> MIA?
[15:38] <shadeslayer> Missing in Action
[15:38] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: yes
[15:38] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: SDDM isn't integrated yet
[15:39] <lordievader> Ah, check.
[15:41] <_Groo_> but it was there before
[15:41] <_Groo_> it was even integrated (more or less) with systemd-login0
[17:03] <_Groo_> btw
[17:03] <_Groo_> i dont know who can fix this, maybe shadeslayer or Riddell 
[17:04] <_Groo_> but with our kf5 + 14.10 we have a very nasty bug that simply creates GBs of .xsession-error.log 
[17:05] <_Groo_> the famous _xgeWireToEvent: Unknown extension 148, this should never happen bug
[17:05] <_Groo_> i just tested it, and its fixed in libXext 1.3.3
[17:05] <_Groo_> unfortunately 14.10 is still on 1.3.2
[17:06] <_Groo_> so whoever is brave enough to install kf5 will get a big .xsession-error file every time till this is fixed upstream
[17:15] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages?field.name_filter=sddm&field.status_filter=superseded&field.series_filter=
[17:16] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: no SDDM from CI, ever
[17:16] <_Groo_> oO
[17:16] <shadeslayer> it was only ever shipped from the next PPA
[17:16] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: ah, that explains it, i started with the next ppa
[17:17] <shadeslayer> right
[17:17] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: it worked fine actually, but i had a lot of systemd-login0 problems
[17:17] <shadeslayer> I think that's because we were building without systemd support
[17:17] <shadeslayer> because systemd isn't supported on Ubuntu yet
[17:17] <shadeslayer> fully supported anyway
[17:18]  * shadeslayer is hungry
[17:21] <lordievader> It does work fine though :)
[17:27] <Riddell> sgclark: well if you package them then they'll be packaged
[17:27] <Riddell> sgclark: instructions are on https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas "the plan"
[17:34] <sgclark> Riddell: well uh yeah I know if I package them they will be packaged, I meant git repos, but I now see the instructions. I am busy now but will package some when I can. thanks..
[17:35] <Riddell> great
[17:35] <Riddell> after we've done a few we can just automate it more with bash loops and then next time we'll go back to using kubuntu-automation
[17:36] <sgclark>  ok
[18:19] <soee> lordievader: you are on vivid?
[18:22] <lordievader> soee: Yes, I have the full package :) (Well one box does)
[18:27] <soee> lordievader: forks fine ? anu problems during upgrade ?
[18:28] <lordievader> During what upgrade? And yes it works fine here.
[18:29] <lordievader> soee: By the by, I installed it fresh through a debootstrap.
[18:29] <soee> oh
[18:30] <soee> i wonder how will upgrade work
[18:30] <lordievader> Try it ;)
[18:34] <soee> thers plasma 5 by defautl already ?
[18:35] <sgclark> not that I could find. I ended up with kde4
[18:35] <soee> :<
[18:36] <lordievader> soee: Add the ci ppa ;)
[18:37] <sgclark> yeah the one I did upgrade went mostly ok, except sddm was not in archive yet
[19:40] <_Groo_> anyone having problems logging in kf5 today? like freezing in the breeze login animation?
[19:59] <teward> is there a list of the packages in the kubuntu seed
[20:04] <Noskcaj> teward, Somewhere on people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/ , i'm not sure exactly what you want 
[20:05] <teward> Noskcaj: for some reason, the sponsorship queue shows nginx listed as `ubuntu-server, kubuntu bugs`
[20:05] <teward> MOTU suggested it might be in the seeds, but IDK why it would be.
[20:05] <teward> tryin to figure out why it's listed as such, and whether it's listed in the seeds or not
[20:06] <teward> and i found out the answer - it's in the kubuntu packageset
[20:06] <teward> now i'm curious why
[20:06] <Noskcaj> There should be a changelog somewhere
[20:08] <teward> Noskcaj: if you find one let me know, i'm curious when, and why, it was added...
[20:10] <Noskcaj> Perhaps download http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/kubuntu.vivid and grep for nginx, that will let you know where it is
[20:10] <teward> would be wonderful if it werent a 404
[20:10] <Noskcaj> Since it's in all+extra it is seeded somewhere
[20:11] <yofel> nginx                                                       | nginx                                  | Kubuntu.Vivid supported-misc-servers seed         | Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>      |            3596 |              47
[20:12] <teward> still kinda curious why it's considered part of the kubuntu seed
[20:12] <teward> less 'where is it considered part of the seed' and more 'why is it considered part of the seed`
[20:12]  * teward shrugs
[20:13] <yofel> I wonder what's supported-misc-servers
[20:13] <teward> same.  I would udnerstand if it were in the ubuntu server seeds somewhere, but...
[20:24] <soee> lordievader: ci ppa probably is to much unstable
[20:25] <lordievader> soee: You should read the description, their pretty funny ;)
[20:26] <lordievader> But the weekly is probably quite stable, seeing that I've yet to experience trouble with the landing ppa.
[22:07] <teward> yofel: if you're still around, how would we figure out what a specific seed is for?  (in this case, the Kubuntu.Vivid supported-misc-servers seed)  Who do we bother?
[22:08] <yofel> teward: for seed questions I would try asking cjwatson, he'll usually know whats up
[22:08] <teward> oh goody i have to bother him about the LP api so I guess I'll bother him about that
[22:21] <shadeslayer> ScottK: what's with ktorrent not building on Vivid?
[22:21] <shadeslayer> have logs?
[23:59] <allee> argl.  bzr bd-do is exiting immediately because one of the quilt patches does not longer apply.  What the trick to  bd-do  stay in unpacked sources?