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[01:52] <newb-2014> Does anyone know why the Plasma 5 variant of the 14.10 live image crashes on startup on my Yoga Pro 2?
[02:05] <znc-> test
[02:06] <znc-> in my homedirectory logged in as user of I dont need permissions right
[02:07] <znc-> sorry my fault have made something wrong
[02:34] <toothe> Hi, I JUST installed Ubuntu on this brand new laptop. How do I verify or install the video card drivers?
[02:34] <toothe> I've done it before on a work laptop, but I forgot what happened - a popup just appeared before me.
[03:33] <struktured> toothe: http://www.themukt.com/2014/09/17/10-things-installing-kubuntu/
[03:48] <toothe> struktured: I on't see additional drivers when I hit alt-F2
[03:50] <toothe> I noticed that Kubuntu's search feature searches online....is there a way to disable that?
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[04:40] <jamesbdev> Hi, could someone please let me know if Kubuntu 14.10 Plasma 5 is stable enough for use on my work desktop?
[04:41] <jamesbdev> It would be safer for me to use 14.10 Plasma 4 but I think plasma 5 is pretty :)
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[07:13] <soee> good morning
[07:40] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:53] <Yukinotteru> Oyasumi lordievader \o
[07:55] <lordievader> Yukinotteru: Ohaiyou o/
[07:55] <Yukinotteru> Er, sorry
[07:55] <Yukinotteru> Konbanawa* \o
[07:56] <lordievader> :P
[07:56] <lordievader> I should install ibus on this box...
[07:56] <Yukinotteru> :P
[08:21] <hadi> what is this !
[08:22] <lordievader> hadi: What is what?
[09:15] <znc-> can me still run an older kubuntu with working repisotories
[09:16] <znc-> got "Unable to Download the following  packages:" could paste it
[09:18] <lordievader> znc-: What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[09:18] <znc-> 11.10
[09:19] <lordievader> znc-: That has been EOL since May 9 2013...
[09:19] <lordievader> You should upgrade.
[09:19] <znc-> ahhh ok
[09:19] <znc-> the EOL says what the max of support right
[09:20] <hateball> !eolupgrade
[09:20] <ubottu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[09:21] <znc-> oki got it
[09:21] <znc-> lordievader hateball thanks
[09:22] <znc-> can I fake an older system, are there links
[09:23] <lordievader> Fake an older system? What do you mean?
[09:24] <znc-> its rather simple try to compile something old and got always issues because version to new the most time now I wanted to make it in an easy way and just installed kubuntu 11.10
[09:24] <znc-> I would like to install just old stuff, like, as if we got the date from before
[09:24] <hateball> znc-: Run old stuff in a VM
[09:24] <znc-> right
[09:25] <znc-> I hope you understand how I mean it
[09:53] <znc-> now just trying to install git but getting some dependancies problems http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Git
[09:53] <znc-> sorry http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Git
[09:54] <znc-> packages.debian.org/sid/all/git-core/download
[09:55] <hateball> My german is rusty. But why would you download debian packages if you run *ubuntu?
[09:55] <znc-> is that wrong
[09:56] <lordievader> znc-: Yes, you should use Ubuntu packages ;)
[09:56] <znc-> oki, do you got a site to search for
[09:58] <lordievader> znc-: old-releases.ubuntu.com is for EOL stuff.
[09:58] <znc-> very cool thx
[09:58] <lordievader> Else packages.ubuntu.com
[10:00] <znc-> old-releases.ubuntu.com can me use this as reposotory
[10:00] <znc-> in order to get use of apt-get
[10:00] <lordievader> Don't know, perhaps.
[10:00] <Pigi> Hi all
[10:00] <znc-> ok I try
[10:06] <Pigi> Anyone use compiz/fusion on kubuntu 14.10 ?
[10:07] <lordievader> Pigi: We have Kwin, no need for Compiz.
[10:08] <Pigi> More or less. :) There's a bunch of fun widget missing, aren't they ?
[10:09] <Pigi> Fire, water, snow ( as example ;)
[10:09] <Pigi> Or I'm missing something ?
[10:10] <lordievader> One could classify them as missing, or not.
[10:11] <Pigi> You're right :)
[10:11] <Pigi> But what if someone classify those as missing ? Any chance to get it back ?
[10:13] <hateball> One could write such an effect and upload to kde-look.org for instance :)
[10:14] <hateball> For Kwin, that is
[10:30] <Pigi> hateball: that would be fine, but isn't it redundant ?
[10:30] <hateball> Pigi: What is redundant?
[10:31] <hateball> If anything Compiz is redundant
[10:31] <Pigi> to write something that has already been written, I suspect ;)
[10:33] <lordievader> According to that argument a lot in the Linux world is redundant...
[10:33] <Pigi> I agree !
[10:34] <lordievader> Pros and cons. As allways.
[10:41] <znc-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades seems to work so
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[10:59] <znc-> hey, in vi the cursors arent changing the cursorposition I got AB.. and backspace just moves the cursor to the left
[10:59] <lordievader> znc-: Try vim ;)
[10:59] <znc-> oh yo are here too :(
[11:00] <znc-> :)
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[12:28] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:31] <daSilva> Howdy
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[14:41] <yv> hallo
[14:42] <BluesKaj> hi yv
[15:16] <Excite> hello
[15:19] <lordievader> o/
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[15:58] <Junior> algum brasileiro porai?
[16:02] <dcorbin> I attempt "apt-get remove -f <package>" It fails: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/85056ce109a40c4fb134  How do I get this remove?
[16:12] <DJ-Excite> yahoo app fails
[16:21] <BernhardS> is there an additional package I need to install to view tga images with gwenview?
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[16:32] <DJ-Excite> i need help on someing
[16:32] <DJ-Excite> launcher-partypokernj://-P=partypokerNJ%20-S=real-nj.partygaming.com#2147%20-action=account%20-category=wallet%20-SU=https://www2.partypoker.com/Downloads/SmartUpgraders/
[16:34] <DJ-Excite> need a app for launcher for NJ
[16:44] <Walex> BernhardS: probably not...
[16:44] <Walex> cd
[17:16] <kavaco> hi
[17:16] <lordievader> o/
[17:16] <kavaco> lordievader: the amd radeon is working now!!!
[17:17] <lordievader> kavaco: Good to hear :)
[17:17] <kavaco> i downloaded the kubuntu 14.04 and install
[17:17] <kavaco> i think, the problem is on the kubuntu 14.10
[17:19] <kavaco> lordievader: but, i have a new problem :D
[17:21] <lordievader> kavaco: Shoot ;)
[17:23] <kavaco> when i updating the kubuntu 14.04 on the first exec...
[17:23] <kavaco> an error ocurred
[17:23] <kavaco> my english is bad, sorry :D
[17:24] <kavaco> and, the plasma option there is not on lightdm
[17:25] <kavaco> i installed the, xfce to use de system
[17:25] <DJ-Excite> wear do i fine Kubuntu for phone
[17:25] <DJ-Excite> ?
[17:29] <kavaco> now, i run the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and it is installed...
[17:31] <lordievader> kavaco: How did you install the system?
[17:32] <kavaco> but a cant use the muon and another softwares, they do not ask for password then do not work
[17:33] <kavaco> lordievader: normally
[17:33] <kavaco> using a pendrive
[17:34] <lordievader> Hmm, now that is hard to believe. Did you check the md5 sum?
[17:35] <lordievader> Or did you use a mini iso or the server iso?
[17:44] <kavaco> no
[17:45] <lordievader> kavaco: No on the md5 or no on the alternate iso?
[17:45] <kavaco> this
[17:45] <kavaco> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/trusty/release/kubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[17:46] <lordievader> Hmm, that should be allright... Odd though that the kubuntu-desktop package ain't installed.
[17:49] <kavaco> lordievader: this error occurred after (or during) the first update. Before that, it worked normally kubuntu
[17:50] <lordievader> kavaco: Going back to your first description, on the first exec an error orccured. What error?
[17:52] <kavaco> yes, on first exec, i updated it...
[17:52] <kavaco> install just some packages, i dont understand
[17:52] <kavaco> and i restart the computer
[17:52] <lordievader> kavaco: But what error did you get?
[17:53] <kavaco> and the kde dont start anymore
[17:53] <kavaco> => the muon does not ask for password
[17:54] <lordievader> kavaco: Can you still get to a shell, a tty or something?
[17:55] <kavaco> yes
[17:55] <lordievader> kavaco: What happens when you reinstall kubuntu-desktop?
[17:58] <kavaco> the apt-get install just the kubuntu-desktop package, normally
[17:58] <kavaco> i think
[17:58] <lordievader> kavaco: It is a meta-package it should ensure you have most stuff that you need.
[17:59] <kavaco> ok
[17:59] <kavaco> what should be the problem of the muon?
[18:00] <lordievader> No idea, I never use muon.
[18:01] <kavaco> i cant install a program from muon before the kubuntu-desktop problem.
[18:01] <kavaco> but then we forget this
[18:03] <lordievader> kavaco: Now I'm uncertain. Did you have a working KDE?
[18:03] <kavaco> yes
[18:04] <lordievader> kavaco: Ah, I was under the impression that you didn't/
[18:05] <kavaco> :D
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[18:05] <lordievader> So the problem is Muon?
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[18:10] <kavaco> yes
[18:11] <kavaco> you think best reinstall?
[18:11] <lordievader> kavaco: What do you get when you launch it from the Konsole?
[18:11] <kavaco> the kubuntu
[18:11] <lordievader> Lets not get drastic straight away ;)
[18:12] <kavaco> usin SUDO, it work
[18:13] <lordievader> kavaco: Course it does, but that ain't the point.
[18:14] <kavaco> ok
[18:14] <lordievader> kavaco: What you are trying to figure out is why it doesn't prompt you for those rights.
[18:16] <kavaco> ok
[18:19] <kavaco> wait a minute, please...
[18:24] <kavaco> lordievader: the restart, shutdown and logout button on kde menu dont working too
[18:24] <lordievader> kavaco: One issue at a time...
[18:26] <kavaco> ok
[18:28] <lordievader> kavaco: So do you notice anything interesting when you launch muon from the konsole?
[18:29] <kavaco> just this: QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[18:29] <kavaco> on output
[18:29] <lordievader> Only that?
[18:30] <kavaco> yes
[18:31] <kavaco> now this: found error while replying QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs", "")
[18:31] <lordievader> Is that when you try to install something?
[18:32] <kavaco> yes
[18:33] <lordievader> kavaco: Is dbus running?
[18:34] <kavaco> from "sudo service --status-all"
[18:34] <kavaco> [ - ]  dbus
[18:35] <kavaco> wrong?
[18:36] <lordievader> kavaco: "sudo service dbus status" is easier, and yes it should be running. However I'm not sure if it should run as root or as the user. What do you get when you run 'qdbus'?
[18:37] <kavaco> dbus start/running, process 734
[18:38] <lordievader> kavaco: Err, what command gave that output?
[18:38] <kavaco> dbus start/running, process 734 ----- this?
[18:39] <lordievader> Yes
[18:39] <kavaco> sudo service dbus status
[18:40] <lordievader> Hmm, so it is running.
[18:42] <kavaco> I do not want to bother. let's leave it at that.
[18:43] <lordievader> Reading a very old bugreport it states that polkit-kde-1 should be installed. Not sure if that is still needed.
[18:43] <lordievader> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qapt/+bug/833058
[18:43] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 833058 in qapt (Ubuntu) "Muon-updater doesn't ask for password" [Undecided,Fix released]
[18:44] <kavaco> it is installed
[18:45] <lordievader> kavaco: Read the last few comments and also https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331114
[18:45] <ubottu> KDE bug 331114 in updater "muon-updater never works, always need to kill qaptworker" [Normal,Resolved: invalid]
[18:47] <kavaco> i dont understand
[18:47] <kavaco> but it is working now
[18:48] <kavaco> i do restart to test it
[18:48] <kavaco> ok?
[18:48] <kavaco> i come back
[18:48] <lordievader> kavaco: What did you do in the meantime?
[18:49] <kavaco> just ran the commands you asked
[18:50] <kavaco> is that the system is unstable?
[18:50] <lordievader> Nah, don't think so.
[18:50] <kavaco> the restart button is workin now
[18:52] <kavaco> i come back
[18:56] <kavaco> the restart, shutdown and logout dont working, again. lordievader
[18:56] <kavaco> ahuhauhauhauaa
[18:57] <kavaco> lordievader: and the muon dont asked the password, again
[18:57] <lordievader> kavaco: What's the output of 'ps aux|grep dbus'?
[18:57] <kavaco> :/
[18:57] <lordievader> !paste
[18:57] <ubottu> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[18:58] <kavaco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9076518/
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[19:13] <kavaco> lordievader: hi
[19:14] <kavaco> thanks for attention
[19:17] <lordievader> kavaco: I have a dbus-launch among them, not sure if that is related to systemd, but I get the feeling you should have it too...
[19:18] <lordievader> Though you do have the deamon running.. Gues qdbus also output a whole lot?
[19:19] <kavaco> Gues?
[19:19] <lordievader> Guess*
[19:21] <kavaco> you wonder if that output is complete?
[19:21] <lordievader> kavaco: I don't know. However does 'qdbus' output a lot of text?
[19:22] <kavaco> yes
[19:23] <kavaco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9076888/
[19:23] <kavaco> here
[19:23] <lordievader> Yeah, then likely it ain't dbus.
[19:24] <kavaco> ok
[19:24] <kavaco> i come back...
[19:59] <starnik> hi guys
[20:01] <lordievader> o/
[20:06] <tertu> KSnapshot doesn't actually let me save pictures
[20:06] <tertu> it takes a snapshot as you choose to save so i can't actually save the snapshot i wanted to save
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[22:04] <mokush> is there a way I can install konqueror with plasma 5 on 14.10?I'm getting an 'unmet dependencies:' error when trying to install
[22:06] <barraponto> what is the recommended way to try out plasma5 in 14.04?
[22:06] <barraponto> or is it only recommended for 14.10?
[22:07] <lordievader> barraponto: Either 14.10 or 15.04 if you are really daring.
[22:11] <barraponto> meh, I need it to be compatible with my colleagues :P
[22:11] <barraponto> lordievader: thanks
[22:11] <barraponto> I'll go with kde4
[22:11] <barraponto> plasma4
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[22:46] <MobilRoey> HERLLLP!
[22:46] <MobilRoey> my system's gone geborked.
[22:46] <MobilRoey> I tried do-dist-upgrade -d yesterday
[22:46] <MobilRoey> now KDe won't start.  I see a mouse cursor, the Nvidia splash logo... and then just black (with a cursor)
[22:46] <MobilRoey> I tried fvwm and xfce--same result.
[22:47] <MobilRoey> also, my console is EXTREMELY slow to draw.. it's not on 80x25 mode (something wider like 135xsomething)
[22:48] <keithzg> MobilRoey: Personally I'd try purging all the NVIDIA packages and then reinstalling them.
[22:52] <MobilRoey> keithzg:  well I tried re-installing the NVidia drivers, but I got the same result.  Is it NVidia that's the issue though?  I do see the NVidia logo on X startup, after all
[22:53] <keithzg> MibilRoey: Well, if you're having slow drawing and such, it does sound like it would be.
[22:54] <keithzg> To be clear here, I don't just mean uninstall.
[22:54] <keithzg> I mean outright purge.
[22:54] <keithzg> I've had issues in the past where old NVIDIA configs and libraries were left around and screwed me upon upgrading.
[22:54] <MobilRoey> aye
[22:54] <keithzg> (Had the same thing recently with AMD graphics, to be fair.)
[22:55] <MobilRoey> I wonder if the NVidia installer has a purge option
[22:55] <keithzg> I wouldn't use the NVIDIA installer if I was you!
[22:55] <keithzg> The packages that ship with *buntu are far safer.
[22:56] <keithzg> Also it could be worth purging the NVIDIA graphics and then seeing, upon reboot, if the fallback drivers (likely it'll default down to noveau) have the same issues. If they don't, then you do know it's the drivers at fault.
[22:56] <MobilRoey> oh my toe
[22:56] <MobilRoey> oh my go
[22:56] <MobilRoey> god
[22:56] <MobilRoey> no purge on nvidia binw
[22:56] <MobilRoey> bins
[22:56] <MobilRoey> I'll bbaib
[22:56] <unopaste> MobilRoey you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:59] <soee> MobilRoey: what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[23:00] <MobilRoey> 14,10
[23:16] <MobilRoey> back
[23:27] <MobilRoey> anyone still here?
[23:28] <MobilRoey> keithzg:  also I think I have the nouveau drivers blacklisted as they caused issues for me
[23:31] <keithzg> MobilRoey: Might be worth un-blacklisting them for the time being.
[23:31] <keithzg> So have you purged the NVIDIA drivers now, or?
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[23:57] <MobilRoey> keithzg:  ah
[23:57] <MobilRoey> keithzg:  I have not purged them
[23:57] <MobilRoey> don't know how to purge it manually
[23:57] <MobilRoey> I mean, maybe purging the nouveau packages will do that
[23:57] <MobilRoey> apt-get --purge
[23:58] <keithzg> If you've installed via the NVIDIA installer, yeah, it may not be easy to purge.
[23:58] <keithzg> But you can certainly search your PC for what it has left behind.
[23:59] <MobilRoey> sure