| ggg | :) | 00:47 |
|---|---|---|
| ggg | hi | 00:47 |
| ggg | if I am installing lubuntu on T61 Lenovo 2 GB ram is it better to install 32 bit version? | 00:48 |
| ggg | or 62 | 00:48 |
| ggg | *64 | 00:48 |
| ggg | which one is faster? | 00:48 |
| wxl | you playing games or doing video editing ggg ? | 00:49 |
| ggg | no | 00:49 |
| wxl | then it doesn't really matter | 00:49 |
| ggg | oki | 00:49 |
| wxl | however, i would argue that 64bit is a little more "common" | 00:49 |
| ggg | also it seems screen refresh rate is lower in ubuntu or something | 00:50 |
| Unit193 | If you have a fair amount of RAM and your computer supports it, 64bit. | 00:50 |
| ggg | eyes get tired :D | 00:50 |
| ggg | in win its ok | 00:50 |
| wxl | Unit193: although, that's really not often achieved outside of computationally intensive programs | 00:50 |
| wxl | ggg: you can change that of course | 00:50 |
| wxl | there's been talk in the ubuntu community about getting rid of 32 bit images | 00:50 |
| wxl | from what i can tell this is not ready to happen, but it may be a harbinger of what's to come | 00:50 |
| wxl | excellent :) | 00:51 |
| ggg | wx1 lol I wonder what in lubuntu makes screen to harsh on eyes | 00:52 |
| ggg | diff drivers? | 00:52 |
| wxl | possibly | 00:52 |
| wxl | depends on whether or not your chip has an open source driver | 00:52 |
| wxl | if so, it's probably the same | 00:52 |
| ggg | i dont think it have | 00:52 |
| ggg | screen looks a bit like robotron lol | 00:53 |
| ggg | lol | 00:55 |
| ggg | oki time to sleep | 00:56 |
| ggg | screen really mad | 00:56 |
| ggg | :D | 00:56 |
| acecipher | Hey, how does one move the control bar thing down on screen? | 01:48 |
| ianorlin | acecipher you can drag window with alt +mouse | 02:53 |
| ianorlin | did you move panel? | 02:54 |
| acecipher | no | 02:57 |
| acecipher | Elyssa needs it | 02:57 |
| ianorlin | the panel? | 03:54 |
| === LarrySteeze is now known as LarrySteeze|Away | ||
| anjo-aladiah | There is any way to personalize the Keybord under Lubuntu or ubuntu ? My keyboard is Spanish and i use to right in Portuguese, so i not able to put the ~ up on the A or the O !Some tip to help me ?There is any way to personalize the Keybord under Lubuntu or ubuntu ? My keyboard is Spanish and i use to right in Portuguese, so i not able to put the ~ up on the A or the O !Some tip to help me ? | 06:32 |
| anjo-aladiah | There is some way to run a website that need Microsfot Silverlight to run under ubuntu or lubuntu ? | 06:34 |
| anjo-aladiah | like this one http://irisonline.pt/ | 06:34 |
| wxl | ok, here's the question for the advanced support: how do you set your own compose sequences? having import "%L" plus definitions in ~/.XCompose does not seem to be enough | 06:53 |
| hateball | anjo-aladiah: I don't think there's any other way than using WINE these days | 06:54 |
| wxl | silverlight? i think the mono guys made something along those lines. | 06:55 |
| wxl | but afaik silverlight's on its way out | 06:55 |
| anjo-aladiah | i am no able to install moonlight on console | 06:55 |
| anjo-aladiah | Why i cant install linux microsoft silver light alternativa ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9067112/ | 06:55 |
| anjo-aladiah | There is some Lubuntu or ubuntu alternative to Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator 1.4 | 06:55 |
| anjo-aladiah | i need to personalizes my Spanish Keyboard because iam Portuguese.In the Key i have ¨ and ' and { , i need ~, but this one iam not able to put it up on the A or the O letter . | 06:56 |
| wxl | you mean you want à and Õ | 06:57 |
| wxl | !pt | 06:57 |
| ubottu | Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada. | 06:57 |
| hateball | afaik moonlight is dead and buried | 06:58 |
| hateball | running Firefox or IE in wine is probably a less painful solution | 06:58 |
| wxl | rmadison moonlight-plugin-mozilla is sure taking its sweet time :) | 06:58 |
| wxl | oh ic why | 06:59 |
| wxl | available only for lucid | 06:59 |
| wxl | that's why anjo-aladiah -- development died | 06:59 |
| wxl | !info moonlight-plugin-mozilla lucid | 06:59 |
| ubottu | moonlight-plugin-mozilla (source: moon): Free Software clone of Silverlight 2.0 - Xulrunner 1.9 plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2-0ubuntu1.1 (lucid), package size 59 kB, installed size 220 kB | 06:59 |
| wxl | so there it is | 06:59 |
| wxl | and if we look at the current lts version: | 06:59 |
| wxl | !info moonlight-plugin-mozilla trusty | 06:59 |
| ubottu | Package moonlight-plugin-mozilla does not exist in trusty | 06:59 |
| wxl | it's not there | 06:59 |
| wxl | there's no repos on mono's git hub | 07:01 |
| wxl | i think we can call it dead | 07:01 |
| wxl | oh nope it exists | 07:01 |
| anjo-aladiah | There is an alternative to open this website | 07:01 |
| anjo-aladiah | irisonline.pt ? | 07:02 |
| wxl | latest commit over a year ago | 07:02 |
| anjo-aladiah | http://www.irisonline.pt | 07:02 |
| wxl | you could built it yourself https://github.com/mono/moon | 07:02 |
| wxl | anjo-aladiah: it may be easier to help you in portugese. try #ubuntu-br or #ubuntu-pt | 07:02 |
| hateball | Why not just use Wine, that way the silverlight stain is contained even more | 07:03 |
| wxl | hahaha | 07:03 |
| anjo-aladiah | I prefere English room, its more internationalized and better help | 07:04 |
| anjo-aladiah | more people | 07:04 |
| anjo-aladiah | more ideas | 07:04 |
| wxl | anjo-aladiah: well, in that case, either use firefox in wine or compile moon yourself. | 07:05 |
| anjo-aladiah | ok | 07:05 |
| wxl | anjo-aladiah: although i bet you the guys that speak your language probably have more direct experience with dealing with the keyboard. | 07:05 |
| anjo-aladiah | no they dont. | 07:06 |
| wxl | well more than i do :) | 07:06 |
| anjo-aladiah | Portuguese people use to buy portuguese laptops with portuguese keyboard | 07:06 |
| anjo-aladiah | I went to Spain buy one with 17 inchs that they dont sell for a faire price in Portugal at all or they dont sell at all | 07:07 |
| anjo-aladiah | thats why | 07:07 |
| anjo-aladiah | Its easy to find a South american Brazilian with a south american Spanish with this problem | 07:08 |
| hateball | I don't understand the issue, is it that you can't change layout? | 07:09 |
| hateball | Even if the physical keyboard is spanish you should be able to change the layout to portugese | 07:09 |
| anjo-aladiah | hateball | 07:15 |
| hateball | That's me | 07:16 |
| anjo-aladiah | hateball: i need to personalizes my Spanish Keyboard because iam Portuguese.In the Key i have ¨ and ' and { , i need ~, but this one iam not able to put it up on the A or the O letter . | 07:16 |
| wxl | like à | 07:16 |
| wxl | technically compose will take care of it | 07:16 |
| anjo-aladiah | There is some Lubuntu or ubuntu alternative to Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator 1.4 ? Someone in Ubuntu room toold me the LXDEkeytool is able to do it | 07:17 |
| anjo-aladiah | thanks any way | 07:17 |
| anjo-aladiah | yes wxl | 07:17 |
| anjo-aladiah | thas it | 07:17 |
| anjo-aladiah | iam only able to Ä | 07:17 |
| anjo-aladiah | its different doesnit ? | 07:17 |
| wxl | hard to tell at the font size i'm using :) | 07:18 |
| anjo-aladiah | lol | 07:18 |
| wxl | with the compose key i just alt A ~ | 07:18 |
| wxl | i have alt set to the compose key | 07:18 |
| anjo-aladiah | iam able to tyoe ~ | 07:18 |
| anjo-aladiah | but not able to put it up on the consoant | 07:18 |
| wxl | if you add the following to ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart it will work for you: | 07:19 |
| wxl | @setxkbmap -option compose:ralt | 07:19 |
| wxl | note that will make it work for the RIGHT alt | 07:19 |
| anjo-aladiah | that to much hacking for me . | 07:20 |
| anjo-aladiah | if i put that sentence any where inside that file, ¨ ' { key will i give ~' { for sure ?= | 07:21 |
| wxl | i can't understand what you're asking | 07:23 |
| anjo-aladiah | because ~ doesn exist in this keyboard, i read on internet that if i did Alt gr + 4 key combination( note this key show me 4$ charaters), it will gave me ~, and it did but not the way i want up on the consoants ! | 07:24 |
| wxl | how are you able to type it then? | 07:24 |
| anjo-aladiah | doing Alt gr + 4 key combination( note this key show me 4$ charaters) | 07:25 |
| anjo-aladiah | but this ~ is under line | 07:25 |
| anjo-aladiah | when i do the combination it appear even before i type any letter! | 07:25 |
| anjo-aladiah | lolol | 07:25 |
| anjo-aladiah | its hilariant | 07:25 |
| wxl | <compose key> <A> <~> = Ã | 07:25 |
| wxl | just like <compose> <.> <.> = … | 07:26 |
| wxl | and <compose> <C> <|> = ¢ | 07:26 |
| wxl | and <compose> <e> <=> = € | 07:26 |
| wxl | etc | 07:26 |
| anjo-aladiah | ho my friend if i was close to you , i will pay you to do it for me . | 07:27 |
| anjo-aladiah | believe me | 07:27 |
| * wxl shrugs | 07:27 | |
| wxl | oh | 07:27 |
| anjo-aladiah | iam not well prepared to do it | 07:27 |
| wxl | try using setxkbmap -option compose:ralt in a run window or a terminal | 07:27 |
| anjo-aladiah | i will do it now | 07:28 |
| anjo-aladiah | ok Ç? | 07:28 |
| anjo-aladiah | you help me | 07:28 |
| wxl | heh | 07:28 |
| wxl | if you put it with the @ in that autostart file it will be done automatically from here on out | 07:28 |
| anjo-aladiah | first of all i put @setxkbmap -option compose:ralt on terminal right ? | 07:28 |
| anjo-aladiah | or first i have to open the file | 07:29 |
| wxl | if you already have that running, then you're good for this session | 07:30 |
| wxl | if you add that to the autostart file, then it will work next time and there on out | 07:30 |
| anjo-aladiah | i need to open and modify the file first doesn it | 07:32 |
| hateball | "echo @setxkbmap -option compose:ralt > ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart" | 07:33 |
| hateball | just paste that, done | 07:33 |
| wxl | um | 07:33 |
| wxl | misplaced echo? | 07:33 |
| wxl | s/echo/quote/ | 07:33 |
| anjo-aladiah | there is a way to revert if something went wrong ? | 07:33 |
| anjo-aladiah | so i will type in console : echo @setxkbmap -option compose:ralt > ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart | 07:34 |
| anjo-aladiah | wxl there is a way to revert if something go wrong ? | 07:34 |
| wxl | anjo-aladiah: quite easy to fix. but you should type the following EXACTLY: | 07:34 |
| wxl | echo "@setxkbmap -option compose:ralt" >> ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart | 07:35 |
| anjo-aladiah | ok i did it | 07:35 |
| anjo-aladiah | the console dont answear me nothing . it s normal ? | 07:35 |
| wxl | yep that's usually a good sign | 07:35 |
| hateball | wxl: Yes, bit too fast on the trigger. Not enough coffee :) | 07:35 |
| wxl | hateball: aye yae yae | 07:36 |
| anjo-aladiah | äÄ~aæ´wxl + | 07:36 |
| wxl | hahaha someone's having fun over there XD | 07:36 |
| anjo-aladiah | this did nothing | 07:36 |
| anjo-aladiah | ñää | 07:37 |
| wxl | right alt letter tilde | 07:37 |
| anjo-aladiah | æ | 07:37 |
| wxl | that's alt a e | 07:38 |
| anjo-aladiah | æ~ | 07:38 |
| wxl | a then ~ | 07:38 |
| anjo-aladiah | i dont have ~ on my keyboard remember ? | 07:38 |
| anjo-aladiah | a~ | 07:39 |
| wxl | then how can you type it??? :) | 07:39 |
| anjo-aladiah | Alt Gr + 4 | 07:39 |
| wxl | oh sheesh | 07:39 |
| anjo-aladiah | combination | 07:39 |
| anjo-aladiah | and it appear imediatly | 07:39 |
| anjo-aladiah | even before a type a or o or anything | 07:40 |
| hateball | alt gr is "right alt", if anyone is confused here | 07:40 |
| anjo-aladiah | wxl what i should type now to revert the process | 07:40 |
| wxl | that may be the problem | 07:40 |
| wxl | just edit the file and change ralt to lalt | 07:40 |
| wxl | then run the command in terminal | 07:40 |
| anjo-aladiah | how | 07:41 |
| anjo-aladiah | ok | 07:41 |
| wxl | with any file editor you like including leafpad | 07:41 |
| anjo-aladiah | tell me | 07:41 |
| anjo-aladiah | please | 07:41 |
| anjo-aladiah | the command | 07:41 |
| wxl | open leafpad | 07:41 |
| wxl | do file open | 07:41 |
| wxl | navigate to the file | 07:41 |
| wxl | open it | 07:41 |
| wxl | change the r to and l | 07:41 |
| wxl | save the file | 07:41 |
| anjo-aladiah | where it is = | 07:41 |
| anjo-aladiah | ç? | 07:41 |
| wxl | your home directory /.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart | 07:42 |
| anjo-aladiah | ok i did it | 07:43 |
| anjo-aladiah | and save | 07:43 |
| anjo-aladiah | now reboot need ? | 07:43 |
| wxl | good now actually run the command in terminal | 07:43 |
| anjo-aladiah | what command ?¿ | 07:43 |
| anjo-aladiah | echo @setxkbmap -option compose:ralt > ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart | 07:43 |
| wxl | setxkbmap -option compose:lalt | 07:43 |
| anjo-aladiah | ? | 07:43 |
| wxl | then do the following: | 07:43 |
| anjo-aladiah | done | 07:43 |
| wxl | <left alt> <A> <altgr + 4> | 07:44 |
| anjo-aladiah | ~ | 07:44 |
| anjo-aladiah | ~ | 07:44 |
| anjo-aladiah | nothing happens | 07:45 |
| anjo-aladiah | dont work at all | 07:45 |
| wxl | try restarting | 07:45 |
| anjo-aladiah | reboot ? | 07:45 |
| anjo-aladiah | wxl | 09:54 |
| anjo-aladiah | wxl: iam back . After reboot it doesn t work . Please how can i put things as they were prior to our interventation ? | 09:55 |
| anjo-aladiah | wxl: do you remember what we did http://paste.ubuntu.com/9069492/ | 09:59 |
| anjo-aladiah | then i chenge RALT TO LALT as you said | 10:04 |
| NyanCat | phillw, are you around by chance? | 17:53 |
| NyanCat | Since there's a chance that person might be: I was in here two days ago. I've got an Acer Aspire One 725-0826 and I reported that waking up from suspension was not working properly (blank screen). I was experimenting and tried `sudo pm-suspend` and... Well, that worked | 17:56 |
| NyanCat | But closing the lid or suspending from shutdown screen still doesn't work | 17:56 |
| holstein | yeah.. it can be challenging.. on hardware that doesnt support linux well, i usually come up with a workaround. in some cases, just not using or expecting suspend support | 17:56 |
| NyanCat | Though I know it's possible on this unit because suspend/resume works fine using regular Ubuntu with Unity | 17:57 |
| holstein | sure.. just make sure you are comparing the same versions.. like 14.04 ubuntu vs 14.04 lubuntu.. and not, different kernels | 17:59 |
| NyanCat | holstein, hmm, nice one | 18:01 |
| NyanCat | Now that you mention it... | 18:01 |
| NyanCat | I'm not sure that I'm running the same version | 18:02 |
| holstein | NyanCat: you can probably test with the live iso's.. if you dont need proprietary graphics drivers.. | 18:02 |
| NyanCat | Though actually that right there might be the issue | 18:03 |
| NyanCat | Just noticed that i'm using stock for everything | 18:03 |
| NyanCat | and apparently the os is reporting that my wireless isn't working even though... i'm connected through wireless | 18:03 |
| NyanCat | lol | 18:03 |
| holstein | its a matter of just isolating, and keeping an open mind.. since, you are not promised linux support. it can be challenging, for sure | 18:03 |
| NyanCat | well heck holstein if you hadn't have mentioned the word proprietary i wouldn't have checked | 18:03 |
| NyanCat | So it's certainly more help than anything (: | 18:04 |
| NyanCat | holstein, going to reboot and try again | 18:07 |
| NyanCat | looks promising so far | 18:07 |
| holstein | NyanCat: i wish i could say "it wont hurt" ;) | 18:08 |
| NyanCat | holstein, hah | 18:14 |
| NyanCat | well, if it does hurt, i'm punching you first | 18:14 |
| NyanCat | holstein | 18:15 |
| NyanCat | IT WORKED | 18:15 |
| NyanCat | i resumed to lock screen | 18:15 |
| holstein | lol | 18:15 |
| holstein | NyanCat: cheers.. that was easy | 18:15 |
| NyanCat | now i can use an OS that goes easier on my battery! | 18:16 |
| phillw | NyanCat: I am, but seems problem solved :) | 18:22 |
| NyanCat | heck yeah | 18:22 |
| NyanCat | holstein, just playing with it here | 19:20 |
| NyanCat | it's a bit touchy, but it works to my liking | 19:20 |
| NyanCat | sometimes i have to close the lid again and then reopen it | 19:21 |
| aarondabomb | Hey fellas, is anyone here very familiar with lxle? I just switched from lubuntu to lxle, and I think some configuration settings are left over in my home partition and I'm trying to change them act more like lxle does in a live boot | 19:27 |
| testdr | aarondabomb: create a new user (maybe with admin-rights) and check this default clean empty one -- then you can compare to all those configurations in your old-home-directory in .config .local .gconf and so on | 19:30 |
| aarondabomb | testdr: thanks that's a good idea! | 19:31 |
| Hertz | hello | 23:50 |
| Hertz | any ideas how I can get proper video driver for t61 laptop? | 23:50 |
| Hertz | there is some funny stuff goes on | 23:51 |
| Hertz | eyes get tired fast | 23:51 |
| Hertz | like some barely noticeable flickering | 23:51 |
| Hertz | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861251 | 23:56 |
| ianorlin | Hertz what kind of graphics on the laptop? | 23:57 |
| Hertz | checking | 23:59 |
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