[07:10] <andylock1an> hey. popey. i installed ubuntu on my nexus 4 and it ran out of battery. is it easy to fix it as now it wont charge. oops.
[07:14] <andylock1an> sat in a squash court with no partner. less than ideal.
[07:35] <map> hm
[07:40] <map> we may not hav much
[07:40] <map> but we got morsld
[07:40] <map> :)
[07:40] <map> i spoke to some tat asking for a lighter nd my 'frend' text me right away
[07:40] <map> 'dont speak to her'
[07:41] <map> because hes sleeping with her while his fiancws npregnant
[07:42] <andylockran> top guy
[07:42] <map> yep
[07:43] <map> i was in some bar and i saw this girl
[07:43] <map> and i spoke to her
[07:43] <map> he text me sying 'ARE YOU RETARDED DONT TALK TO HR'
[07:43] <map> classic idiot in trouble
[07:44] <map> he sent me another few messages but i left thm ouit
[07:45] <map> ]told him 'fine dont nspeak to me il tel your girlfriend whats going on and you csn foff'
[07:46] <map> im vaguely surprised he threatened me in the message - he knows id knock him out in two seconds then go home for dinner
[07:49] <map> and im not a violent person:D
[07:49] <map> but i wont be tking for a fool
[08:25] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:27] <zmoylan-pi> all hail MooDoo \o/
[08:27] <zmoylan-pi> beats the usual morning :-)
[08:37] <zmoylan-pi> time for porridge
[09:12] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:17] <MooDoo> morning bigcalm
[09:18] <bigcalm> o/
[09:21] <foobarry> \o
[09:21] <foobarry> got soaked because i believed my phone
[09:21] <foobarry> who said it wouldn't rain
[09:22] <zmoylan-pi> your phone is depressed and was trying to void it's warranty :-p
[09:23] <diplo> Morning all
[09:24] <foobarry> next time i interview someone one of the question will be to ask them to sit in a quiet office for 5 minutes
[09:25] <foobarry> then ask them to do some tasks, like eat a sandwich
[09:25] <zmoylan-pi> with a clock with an irregular tick like the patricians? :-)
[09:25] <foobarry> and see how much disruption and disgusting noises come out of them
[09:25] <foobarry> then make a phone call without broadcasting to the entire office
[09:26] <foobarry> then make a really personal phone call on their mobile
[09:26] <foobarry> that kind of thing
[09:27] <MooDoo> morning diplo
[09:28] <zmoylan-pi> japan takes their interviews a little further :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQlQoMrymts
[09:29] <zmoylan-pi> huh, thought it was japan.
[09:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Entrepreneurship Day! :-D
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> entrepreneurship day... with balloons, powerpoint presentations and fund raisers?
[09:41] <diplo> How's the new job going MooDoo ?
[09:41] <popey> Good morning.
[09:47] <popey> ooh http://n1.nokia.com/
[09:48]  * zmoylan-pi fondly remembers my nokia 770 tablet. best wifi... ever.
[09:55] <zmoylan-pi> with android 5... tempting
[09:56] <popey> china first...
[09:57] <zmoylan-pi> that'll shake out any bugs then
[10:03] <MooDoo> diplo: brill thanks :D
[10:08] <MooDoo> diplo: i have my 3 months end of probation review this afternoon
[10:11] <popey> andylockran: you need to charge it from a wall wart.
[10:13] <diplo> That's great news!
[10:13] <diplo> Still in Nottingham ?
[10:18] <MooDoo> diplo: yeah, bulwell, blenheim ind estate
[10:25] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:28] <diddledan> mornin morning
[10:28] <popey> morning
[10:29] <czajkowski> how's everyone ?
[10:29] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:30] <bigcalm> Ubuntu Mate torrent - peaked at 13.26 MB/s, steady at 12.89 MB/s :)
[10:32] <popey> gosh
[10:32] <bigcalm> Download, not upload :P
[10:33] <popey> haha, leecher
[10:33] <popey> dunno how many seeds there are
[10:33] <bigcalm> I think I leeched from 20 seeds
[10:33] <popey> nice
[10:34] <bigcalm> I'm currently uploading to 1 client at 3KB/s
[10:34] <bigcalm> :|
[10:34] <bigcalm> Last Announce: Today 10:30:11 AM (got 27 peers)
[10:34] <bigcalm> There you go
[10:34] <bigcalm> 26 of those are seeding
[10:35] <bigcalm> For the sake of compatability, I got the 32bit version
[10:36] <bigcalm> This is going on the USB flash drive on my key ring
[10:39]  * bigcalm looks around for a spare computer to try it on
[10:39] <bigcalm> I wonder if my wife will mind if I pinch her laptop
[11:22] <andylockran> popey - have tried from the wall, red led lights up for 60 seconds, then it goes off, never picks up the charge.
[11:22] <andylockran> Read on the wiki it's potentially a known issue and need to open up the phone to disconnect some internal hardware
[11:22] <popey> no
[11:22] <popey> just leave it alone
[11:22] <popey> plugged in
[11:24] <andylockran> ok
[11:24] <andylockran> well it's on charge at home
[11:24] <andylockran> will check it tonight
[12:19] <bigcalm> One thing I like about this soundbar is that I have to turn the sub woofer down by 3 levels when listening to Nemones Electric Ladyland. I wub my bass but I can hear it outside of the house if it's set to normal
[12:21] <daftykins> hahaha
[12:22] <daftykins> the normalisation of audio can be pretty damn frustrating
[12:22] <daftykins> having to keep sitting on the dials and so on
[12:22] <daftykins> i love that my Onkyo AV receiver has an android app, so i can just jump on that and drag the sub up and down as per requirement
[12:22] <bigcalm> Sound, especially bass, travels very well though our house. So I only use the soundbar when my wife is out
[12:23] <bigcalm> I have the IR remote to the soundbar on my desk
[12:23] <daftykins> is it attached via optical then? presuming this is the new purchase
[12:23] <bigcalm> Yep
[12:23] <bigcalm> Very happy with it
[12:24] <daftykins> neat :D
[12:25] <daftykins> huzzah at getting to set up Google Apps for a client again, i do love the simplicity
[12:36] <dvrr>  how to setup squid proxy with dansguardian ubuntu 14.04
[12:40] <awilkins> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+setup+squid+proxy+with+dansguardian+ubuntu+14.04&l=1
[12:40] <daftykins> tsk tsk awilkins ;)
[12:41] <daftykins> hey we even have a result from our very own TheOpenSourcerer!
[12:41] <daftykins> result #2
[12:45] <MooDoo> i setup ha proxy + keepalived the other night :S
[12:45] <MooDoo> :D
[12:46] <daftykins> what does that do?
[12:46] <MooDoo> i have two webservers, if one goes down it moves a ip from one machine to the other, so sites never go down :D
[12:47] <MooDoo> means i can have my sites on my main server, then for redundancy have a copy on a vps
[12:47] <MooDoo> which can take over
[12:48] <daftykins> ah ok so ha was high availability
[12:48] <daftykins> sounds good :>
[12:49] <MooDoo> yes
[12:49] <MooDoo> works quite well for my setup
[12:54] <daftykins> any reason both sides aren't all VPS?
[12:55] <MooDoo> daftykins: I just had a 1u server for my sites so using that. vps's are on another seperate box
[12:56] <daftykins> bleh, what a frustrating registrar - makes you buy 'webzone credits' to let you do simple things like email forwarding
[13:08] <Azelphur> daftykins: I bought that drive thing :)
[13:08] <daftykins> \o/
[13:15] <MooDoo> woohoo pass probabtion
[13:16] <daftykins> weyhey ;D
[13:16] <daftykins> congrats
[13:19] <MooDoo> :d
[13:22] <DJones> MooDoo: That just means you've got to stay there now (whether you like it or not)
[13:25] <MooDoo> DJones: good job i like it then isn't it
[13:26] <Myrtti> meh. My screenlet stopped working
[13:28] <andylockran> anyone else been on http://yougov.co.uk/profiler ?
[13:36] <diplo> popey, are you still using syncthing ?
[13:36] <diplo> Going to give it another go this afternoon
[13:36] <popey> yes
[13:36] <diplo> Do you sync any windows machines ?
[13:37] <diplo> Would like to run it off my parents Win7 box so sync back to my server
[13:37] <popey> http://www.networkworld.com/article/2848723/microsoft-subnet/hackers-claim-bittorrent-sync-should-not-be-used-for-sensitive-data.html
[13:37] <popey> i dont use it on windows
[13:37] <diplo> yeah, sort of what prompted me to look again
[13:37] <diplo> I installed BTSync a week ago but hadm't got round to setting it up yet
[13:37] <diplo> Glad I didn't now
[13:37] <diplo> :)
[13:38] <daftykins> i don't particularly trust BTSync, it's still gotta go off somewhere to find the peer
[13:38] <daftykins> played with it a couple of times to share a folder between myself and friends
[13:47]  * directhex_ moos
[13:50] <daftykins> afternoonings mr.hex
[13:52] <brobostigon> RAWR
[14:03] <MooDoo> he's got a tail
[14:04] <directhex_> who was asking about the debian GR vote?
[14:05] <directhex_> the secretary is already running hourly partial analysis of received ballots, they just aren't enabling the full results mode yet. https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initcoupling/
[14:32] <aquarius> OK, compiling-things-is-good people, I am in need of a remedial class. I'm trying to compile a static version of sox to drop onto a website. I have pretty much managed this, but the version on the site fails with error "./sox: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by ./sox)". (The website is running a rather older version of Debian than my Ubuntu 14.04 desktop). The question is thi
[14:32] <aquarius> s: is that error because sox *itself* needs this newer glibc (and therefore I'll never be able to run it on an older system), or is it just because I compiled it on a system *with* a newer version of glibc (and therefore I could conceivably compile it with an older glibc and then it'd work)?
[14:33] <aquarius> I suspect the answer is the latter, to which my second question is: how do I statically compile something against an older version of glibc (note: I don't want to statically link in glibc itself; I'm happy to have that dynamic, as long as it's to the older version present on the website machine) without setting up a chroot/lxc/etc with some ancient version of Debian in it?
[14:35] <popey> aquarius: what version of debian?
[14:35] <aquarius> popey, I don't know
[14:35] <popey> cat /etc/debian_release ?
[14:35] <aquarius> it has kernel 3.2, which I was able to find out
[14:35] <popey> might tell you
[14:35] <popey> lsb_release -a
[14:35] <popey> might also tell you
[14:35] <aquarius> I do not have a shell on the machine, and access to files is restricted to the stuff in my ftp folder
[14:35] <popey> nice
[14:36] <aquarius> I can run things from php, and php has a built-in uname() function, hence getting the kernel version
[14:36] <aquarius> but I don't have access to lsb_release, I don't think
[14:36] <aquarius> I'll try it, mind, since I just assumed I wouldn't rather than actually checking :P
[14:36] <marxjohnson> can you run shell commands from php?
[14:36] <aquarius> marxjohnson, I can
[14:36] <popey> you could get the binary of sox from packages.debian.org
[14:36] <popey> find sox, grab the binary deb and use "ar -x foo.deb" to unpack it
[14:37] <aquarius> popey, I could, but that is compiled with a whole bunch of dependent libraries which I do not have. Hence trying to make a static build.
[14:37] <popey> what are you usng sox for?
[14:37] <popey> OOI
[14:37] <aquarius> I could in theory get all the dependent libraries too and stick them in a folder on the site and LD_LIBRARY_PATH them in, but, well, that's hell on earth, doing that
[14:38] <aquarius> am using sox to convert an mp3 to data so that I can draw a waveform of it.
[14:39] <aquarius> aha!
[14:39] <aquarius> No LSB modules are available.
[14:39] <aquarius> Distributor ID:	Debian
[14:39] <aquarius> Description:	Debian GNU/Linux 7.7 (wheezy)
[14:39] <aquarius> Release:	7.7
[14:39] <aquarius> Codename:	wheezy
[14:39] <popey> so you could make a simple debian wheezy chroot and build it in that?
[14:40] <aquarius> I could, I suppose, and that's my fallback blimey-if-i-have-to option
[14:40] <aquarius> what I'm hoping is that someone who knows about this stuff will say: just do configure --glibc=2.10 or somethnig ;)
[14:41] <popey> what arch is it?
[14:41] <popey> 32 or 64 bit?
[14:41] <aquarius> amd64 afaict
[14:41] <popey> what does uname -a return?
[14:42] <aquarius> Linux dynamic-web10 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.63-2+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:42] <popey> so 64-bit
[14:42] <aquarius> 64 bit indeed
[14:42] <aquarius> that's why I felt comfortable compiling the binary on this machine, which is also 64 bit
[14:42] <popey> k
[14:42] <aquarius> but I didn't know about this glibc thing
[14:44] <popey> i have a wheezy amd64 chroot here.
[14:44] <popey> do you want me to try and build it for you?
[14:44] <BigRedS> can you install the glibc version that is on the server on your local machine? Or I have a bunch of wheezy machines knocking around if I could build it for you?
[14:45] <aquarius> BigRedS, I have no idea about installing other glibcs...
[14:45] <aquarius> popey, build script is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/9073097/ if you fancy giving it a try
[14:45] <aquarius> create a new folder and put the script in it, then run it
[14:45] <aquarius> (from inside the folder)
[14:45] <popey> k
[14:46] <aquarius> it does not try hard to recover if paths are wrong, and it'll write stuff all over your disc :)
[14:46] <aquarius> hence putting it in its own folder
[14:46] <BigRedS> Oh. That 'download as text' link isn't actually a 'download as text' link...
[14:47] <popey> it is
[14:47] <popey> you need to login
[14:47] <popey> because reasons
[14:47] <aquarius> the reason is that otherwise people can host javascript on pastebin.
[14:47] <aquarius> and html and whatnot
[14:47] <aquarius> which IS do not want. :)
[14:48] <BigRedS> yeah, I'm used to doing 'save link target as' on those and giving it to wget
[14:48] <popey> building
[14:49] <aquarius> popey, I don't know what dependencies etc it needs. Probably libtool, whatever that is
[14:49] <aquarius> I had to install that :)
[14:49] <popey> i installed build-essential
[14:49] <BigRedS> it's just tripped over libmad0-dev for me
[14:49] <BigRedS> and it's ocurred to me that I might not want to do this all over my desktop :)
[14:49] <popey> same
[14:50] <aquarius> hm, it downloads its own libmad and statically compiles it into the binary, at least in theory
[14:50] <aquarius> that's what it's *supposed* to do, although whether it *does* it or not is another question ;)
[14:50] <aquarius> popey, what's the output? Although I am unlikely to have a very good idea how to solve it -- it may be apparent that I do not have a very clear idea of what I'm doing, here :P
[14:51] <popey> its fine, i can fix
[14:51] <popey> cp: cannot stat `deps/built/sox/bin/sox': No such file or directory
[14:51] <popey> it does fail, can't find LAME
[14:51] <aquarius> it downloads lame and copiles it and links it into the binary, as it does with mad
[14:52] <aquarius> so perhaps there's a problem with the lame compilation?
[14:52] <popey> ./makesox.sh: line 41: realpath: command not found
[14:52] <aquarius> ha!
[14:52] <aquarius> oops
[14:52] <aquarius> is that not installed by default? :)
[14:52] <aquarius> apt-get install realpath
[14:52] <popey> not in a basic chroot, no
[14:52]  * popey tries again
[14:54] <popey> http://paste.debian.net/132315/
[14:55] <popey> root@deep-thought:/tmp# file sox
[14:55] <popey> sox: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0xe9c46243756db012f60ea53011d7cefa9bd28027, not stripped
[14:55] <aquarius> woo!
[14:55] <aquarius> can I have it? and I'll try it on the website...
[14:55] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/sox
[14:56] <popey> "dynamically linked (uses shared libs)"
[14:56] <aquarius> ya
[14:56] <popey> k
[14:56] <aquarius> it's dymanically linked to glibc for a start
[14:56] <popey> yeah, not much else
[14:57] <popey> http://paste.debian.net/132318/
[14:57] <popey> ^ output of "ldd sox"
[14:57] <aquarius> and libm and things, I think
[14:57] <aquarius> sweet
[14:57] <aquarius> trying on website
[14:58] <aquarius> YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
[14:59]  * aquarius does the dance of joy
[14:59] <aquarius> nice one
[14:59] <aquarius> well, it runs, at least ;)
[14:59] <popey> ☻
[15:00] <aquarius> thank you!
[15:00] <aquarius> that was in a stock wheezy chroot?
[15:04] <aquarius> magnificent victory. I should write this up, I feel.
[15:04] <aquarius> it runs on my actual machine as well, which is very cool
[15:04] <aquarius> single binary ftw
[15:08] <popey> aquarius: yes
[15:09] <popey> aquarius: http://paste.debian.net/132323/ was everything I did inside the chroot
[15:09] <popey> sudo debootstrap --arch=amd64 wheezy ./wheezy/ http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/
[15:09] <popey> thats how i made it...
[15:09] <popey> then entered it with...
[15:09] <popey> sudo  mount -o bind /dev wheezy/dev
[15:09] <popey> sudo mount -t proc none wheezy/proc
[15:10] <popey> sudo chroot wheezy
[15:10] <popey> then those commands in the paste, clearly some fiddling there ㋛
[15:56] <aquarius> http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2014/11/18/making-a-static-build-of-sox/ written up
[16:02] <andylockran> cheers sil!
[16:15] <BigRedS> What's the current favourite thing for self-hosted dropbox? I've no need for owncloudy features
[16:15] <aquarius> I like syncthing
[16:22] <BigRedS> ooh, it's got the 'decentralised' buzzword
[16:24] <daftykins> ;)
[16:24] <daftykins> that must be good!
[16:27] <shauno> I should take another stab at that sometime.  last I tried, owncloud's clients were terribad
[16:27] <daftykins> :D
[16:29] <shauno> the server did what it said on the can, but the file-sync-client for osx just kinda made stuff up as it went along, wandered around in circles, and generally drooled a lot
[16:31] <shauno> (or more specifically, didn't actually sync anything, just created duplicates)
[16:33] <jpds> BigRedS: git-annex.
[16:35] <BigRedS> jpds: yeah, this is for my dad...
[16:35] <BigRedS> shauno: I pondered owncloud, but I don't need about 90% of what it lists as features, really. I just need a directory that's kept in sync
[16:35] <jpds> BigRedS: spideroak?
[16:38] <BigRedS> I'm looking for something self-hosted
[16:38] <BigRedS> it's a big bunch of data and my server's got a good amount of storage space
[16:39] <BigRedS> Sparkleshare's what I've used before, but this will be some large files, and I recall it (or git) not really dealing with those very well
[16:53] <aquarius> BigRedS, that's exactly what I use syncthing for
[17:00] <popey> \o/ syncthing
[17:50] <diddledan> lol @ the question for this competition: http://hexus.net/ce/features/gadgets/77025-win-moto-360-omate-x-smartwatch/
[17:50] <daftykins> ;)
[17:53] <intrbiz> maybe if you answer it wrong you have a better chance of winning?
[18:17] <popey> MartijnVdS: you about?
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> yeah
[18:20] <popey> yo
[18:20] <popey> odd problem with that firmware
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> oh?
[18:21] <popey> xbox and mbp can connect, get an IP but it doesn't route packets
[18:21] <popey> my android tablet connects fine, and works okay.
[18:21] <popey> kind perplexed
[18:21] <daftykins> to the packet sniffing!
[18:21] <MartijnVdS> popey: check /etc/config/firewall
[18:22] <MartijnVdS> it shouldn't firewall.. because bridging
[18:22] <popey> all commented out
[18:22] <popey> oh, except one line
[18:22] <popey> which includes an empty file
[18:22] <popey> so thats okay
[18:22] <popey> oh it's not that its not passing packets (sorry, I tested again late last night)
[18:23] <popey> I can connect from the mac and ping 192.168.1.1 which is the other side of the router
[18:23] <popey> but I cant ping anything outside my network
[18:23] <MartijnVdS> ah
[18:23] <MartijnVdS> maybe the firmware is running its own dhcp server?
[18:24] <MartijnVdS> try /etc/init.d/dnsmasq stop; /etc/init.d/dnsmasq disable
[18:24] <popey>   739 root      1152 S    /usr/sbin/odhcpd
[18:24] <popey> i see that
[18:24] <MartijnVdS> that's ipv6 only I think. you can stop + disable it too
[18:24] <popey> ok, do i need to reboot?
[18:25] <popey> i guess my tablet worked because I already had an ip
[18:25]  * popey wanders to the mac to test
[18:25] <MartijnVdS> shouldn't be necessary, unless you disable first :)
[18:25] <MartijnVdS> popey: is dnsmasq running as well?
[18:27] <popey> \o/
[18:27] <popey> that did it
[18:27] <popey> wifey is now happy, thank you!
[18:32] <daftykins> ah so it was getting the AP's IP as gateway instead perhaps?
[18:32] <daftykins> would've been easy to confirm in system preferences on yonder mac
[18:37] <map> so that was dissapoiunting
[18:37] <map> couldnt find a stripclub in la linea ended up in some dodgy bar
[18:37] <map> clearly not a proper place had to knock on door and be let in..could smoke inside etc..very odd
[19:03] <diddledan> lol, map, you found the dodgiest bar in the town by the sounds of it
[19:03] <diddledan> map: how?!
[19:03] <map> not sure
[19:03] <map> ui was in Molly Blooms till 4 speaking with some american guy i knew from casino in gib
[19:04] <map> they knew of this dodgy /illegal bar so we went there
[19:04] <map> paying in pounds even lol
[19:04] <diddledan> so my new monitor is wired up. and my new psu is inserted. seems stable enough now
[19:04] <map> would've preferred a stripclub ..i did ask but noone knew
[19:04] <map> totally useless
[19:04] <diddledan> and it's much quieter than the old one
[19:04] <diddledan> bah
[19:04] <map> and the girl behind the bar didnt even understand when i asked for '2 bulmers'
[19:04] <diddledan> I've never been in a strip club
[19:04] <diddledan> I'm a god boy
[19:04] <diddledan> good*
[19:04] <map> thought about spelling it out then thought..nope no point!
[19:05] <map> they said few weeks back they only get like 5 ciders a day lol
[19:05] <diddledan> wow
[19:05] <diddledan> what do they drink then?
[19:05] <map> im clearly the channel degenerate ..smokes..drinks..gambles...goes to strip clubs
[19:05] <map> just lager
[19:05] <diddledan> aah
[19:05] <map> never cider i guess
[19:05] <map> most places have the standard strongbow rubbish
[19:06] <map> but its awful
[19:06] <map> and strangely expensive.. £5.50 for 4 cans i'm SURE ive paid like £15 for 24 at tesco
[19:06] <diddledan> yeah 15/24 is a standard "we're on offer" price
[19:06] <map> just glad i didnt come home and drink more -- thats one of my usual routines if ive got drink at home..but must've been too drunk
[19:07] <map> wokeup with a can of unopened cider on my desk heh
[19:07] <diddledan> sometimes they do 15/24 and 25/48
[19:07] <map> yea
[19:07] <map> its crazy expensive here considering its the garbage cheap cider
[19:07] <map> kopperberg is lie £6.50 for 4 cans LOL
[19:07] <map> but yet you can buy a Litre of Stolichynia vodka for £6.20
[19:07] <map> or 70cl Jd Honey £11
[19:08] <map> hard to not buy spirits when you compare the prices
[19:08] <diddledan> tis a slippery slope getting on the spirits tho :-p
[19:20] <map> yep
[19:21] <map> go from ok to not ok so quickly
[20:07] <ABC> how can i remove icons from system tray
[20:24] <foobarry> discovered i have £125 in tesco vouchers
[20:25] <popey> \o/
[20:25] <popey> Hudl2 or xmas pressies for the kids?
[20:25] <foobarry> well, £79 now as i bought RAC cover
[20:25] <foobarry> there is still a hudl left in that
[20:25] <foobarry> miht hang on until my touchpad dies a death
[20:26] <popey> the new Nokia N1 looks rather natty
[20:26] <ABC> how can i remove icons from system tray on ubuntu
[20:27] <popey> depends on the icon
[20:28] <ABC> its thundermail
[20:28] <ABC> bell con
[20:28] <ABC> *icon
[20:29] <ABC> i dont know how it appeared
[20:29]  * diddledan imagines "thundermail" said in a deep and booming voice
[20:29] <popey> thunderbird?
[20:30] <diddledan> "thundermail is go!"
[20:30] <diddledan> :-p
[20:30] <diddledan> sorry, I'll be quiet
[20:30] <ABC> yes
[20:30] <ABC> thundermail
[20:30] <ABC> i mean
[20:30] <ABC> I MEAN
[20:30] <ABC> thunderBIRD
[20:31] <ABC> mail
[20:33] <popey> i have never seen the icon, dunno if it's a preference setting somewhere in thunderstruck
[20:38] <SuperEngineer> darn you popey - now I' compelled to put the phones on & listen to it - loud!
[20:38] <popey> wat!?
[20:38] <SuperEngineer> thunderstruck!
[20:40] <ABC> thunder struck?
[20:43] <SuperEngineer> yup
[20:43] <SuperEngineer> ACDC ABC  ;)
[20:44] <diddledan> lmao
[20:44] <SuperEngineer> XYZ
[20:44] <diddledan> PQR
[20:44] <ABC> so i cant remove the "bell shape icon"
[20:45] <diddledan> are you sure that's thundernut, and not googley chrome/chromium?
[20:46] <diddledan> the only bell I've ever seen is from googley chrome and/or chromium's background notifications system
[20:46] <SuperEngineer> ABC - that icon is usually associated with Chrome
[20:46] <ABC> chrome as in google?
[20:47] <SuperEngineer> yup
[20:48] <SuperEngineer> hover your mouse over it & it will let you know
[20:48] <popey> its chrome
[20:49] <ABC> when i hover over it doesnt show anything
[20:50] <diddledan> who fancies a go on this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWhAGGnDmfE
[20:50] <MooDoo> is that the ferrari ride in dubai?  not watched it al yet
[20:51] <diddledan> MooDoo: yeah
[20:51] <MooDoo> hehe looks ace.
[20:51] <ABC> no, anyone fancies going to chernobyl? Its a awesome place to explore
[20:51] <diddledan> looks petrifying
[20:51] <diddledan> in an awesome way
[20:51] <MooDoo> i'd love a go
[20:51] <MooDoo> I like the ride rita queen of speed at alton towers, it's similar but a lot slower :)
[20:52] <MooDoo> 240km/h
[21:00] <andylockran> popey its still dead :(
[21:01] <popey> using original charger?
[21:01] <popey> not some crappy one or a pc?
[21:01] <popey> ABC: click it
[21:01] <ABC> i clicked
[21:01] <popey> what do you see?
[21:03] <ABC> Thunderbird    Compose new message    contracts      clear
[21:07] <Azelphur> Guys, I have officially broke Google
[21:07] <diddledan> Azelphur: you searched for google didn't you?!
[21:07] <Azelphur> Image search, no matter what I search, comes up with no results, doesn't matter what browser, what searched term.
[21:07] <Azelphur> haha
[21:08] <popey> ABC: fun
[21:08] <Azelphur> diddledan: tried it on a totally different machine: same result
[21:08] <Azelphur> xD
[21:08] <ABC> fun? and holy moly the time is 9:08!
[21:08] <ABC> i thought it was 8:08
[21:27] <andylockran> original charger.
[23:14] <diddledan> who's upgraded yet? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/11/ubuntu-15-04-release-schedule-date-vivid-vervet
[23:14] <diddledan> :-p
[23:16] <Azelphur> what happens when we get to Z?
[23:16] <diddledan> Azelphur: we have to start thinking of adjectives and animals beginning with the number 1
[23:16] <Azelphur> we could use leet speak
[23:16] <diddledan> no
[23:17] <diddledan> just. no.
[23:17] <Azelphur> 1iv3ly 1im4
[23:17] <Azelphur> :D
[23:17] <diddledan> >.<
[23:20] <diddledan> this just melted my brain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfzZZ-Z8eQc
[23:20] <m0nkey_> 14.04 is working for me
[23:20] <m0nkey_> no upgrading yet
[23:22] <diddledan> this is a new SaaS on me: https://6px.io/
[23:27] <awilkins> Amazing Albatross
[23:27] <daftykins> there is no point going non-LTS indeed, a fact very few that come in #ubuntu seem to grasp
[23:28] <awilkins> Awesome Artichoke
[23:28]  * awilkins likes Utopic
[23:29] <daftykins> like it? based on what?
[23:29] <awilkins> It's not terrible?
[23:30] <daftykins> so it functions? :D
[23:30] <awilkins> It works and it has a bunch of teensy improvements
[23:30] <awilkins> Which is pretty much what you want from a new release
[23:33] <awilkins> My favourite change is the new version of gnome-terminal
[23:33] <awilkins> It reflows the buffer when you resize it
[23:33] <awilkins> Like I said, teensy improvements
[23:34] <awilkins> I don't suppose anyone invented a way of making Debian packages that isn't horribly tedious and annoying?
[23:48] <diddledan> awilkins: I've not looked into how easy it is, but this comes out of my memory from a long-forgotten conference video: https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm