| Phil-n | Just a test before tomorrow's noon meeting. | 03:39 |
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| belkinsa | Keep in mind it's in #ubuntu-meeting. | 10:40 |
| belkinsa | Not in here. | 10:40 |
| shirgall | It's kinda sad, http://news.dice.com/2014/10/09/5-programming-languages-marked-for-death/?icid=ON_DN_UP_JS_AV_OG_RA_1 says that "perl" is marked for death. I did a lot of Perl over the years. | 16:00 |
| ObrienDave | they said that about COBOL and FORTRAN 30 years ago LOL | 16:01 |
| wxl | thanks for the reminder belkinsa | 16:04 |
| wxl | i hope as many of you can make it to the meeting as possible | 16:04 |
| wxl | it's too bad c_smith can't make it | 16:04 |
| shirgall | Yeah, I had to learn COBOL and FORTRAN when I got my degree, but I've not used them much. | 16:07 |
| shirgall | To be fair, the cool language at the time was Pascal, but I focused on C. ;) | 16:08 |
| ObrienDave | I remember pascal | 16:08 |
| shirgall | For what it's Wirth. ;) | 16:08 |
| shirgall | The related Dice article on what's cool now has lots of languages I don't use... http://news.dice.com/2014/07/29/5-programming-languages-youll-need-next-year-beyond/?icid=ON_DN_UP_JS_AV_OG_RA_3 | 16:09 |
| wxl | hey everyone | 19:49 |
| wxl | 10 minute warning for our re-verification meeting in #ubuntu-meeting | 19:49 |
| polson8 | should we join that channel yet or wait closer to the time? | 19:50 |
| wxl | polson8: you can join now | 19:50 |
| wxl | i'm idling there and have been for about the past hour XD | 19:50 |
| belkinsa | You can do it now, there is no meetings going on now | 19:50 |
| * belkinsa has been ilding for 2 hours | 19:50 | |
| polson8 | cool, thanks. I was sure if there might be a prior meeting on that channel :) | 19:50 |
| belkinsa | Naw, it's rare that there is a meeting before a meeting | 19:51 |
| belkinsa | It is all here: http://fridge.ubuntu.com//calendars/ | 19:51 |
| polson8 | awesome. last place I worked, the conference rooms were often booked solid. Of course, that was in person, not IRC... | 19:52 |
| belkinsa | It's different on IRC, indeed. Many just idle in channels. | 19:53 |
| belkinsa | It's a differnt world in Open Source and online communities | 19:53 |
| polson8 | Nice. Too bad most of us have to work in the other environment to make a living. | 19:56 |
| belkinsa | Yeah, but still voluteering some where is a good thing | 19:57 |
| shirgall | A lot more people in #ubuntu-meeting than I expected. Quite a party. | 19:57 |
| belkinsa | Keep in mind there is more ilders than active folks for the meeting | 19:58 |
| polson8 | I figure it's the least I can do given I've been using linux-based OS's so long I can't remember what year I started. Plus, it's turned out to be enjoyable so far. | 19:58 |
| polson8 | Although I haven't really done much yet, but got to start by learning how this all works. :) | 19:58 |
| belkinsa | Same here, this is my second year of doing community work and my 5th year of using Linux | 19:58 |
| polson8 | oh. I started using linux in 1996, '97 or '98, but haven't figured out how to determine which it was | 19:59 |
| shirgall | For me back then it was Slackware | 20:08 |
| polson8 | I'm not sure I ever tried that one. Had a few arguments with Red Hat Linux though. | 20:09 |
| shirgall | I was coming from a background of SVR2 and SVR3, it was the most familiar for me at the time. | 20:10 |
| polson8 | never used those. I started with Linux because it didn't freeze and crash like windows did (for me anyway) back then. | 20:11 |
| jvlb | While we have a moment, let me mention that the Free Software Foundation is promoting their Giving Guide, a guide that helps consumers pick Christmas gifts that promote software freedom. You can learn more at https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/giving-guide-giveaway-primer | 20:11 |
| shirgall | I did because I hated paying big bucks for a C compiler. ;) | 20:11 |
| wxl | super cool, jvlb !!!! | 20:12 |
| shirgall | Before Slackware, I was playing with AIX. ;) | 20:12 |
| shirgall | And Xenix | 20:12 |
| belkinsa | Cool jvlb. | 20:12 |
| polson8 | I actually have a box somewhere with Xenix (for intel 386 if I recall correctly) on 3.5" disks. never figured out how to do much with it... | 20:13 |
| jvlb | Well, if we're traipsing down memory lane, how about CP/M? | 20:16 |
| polson8 | I've heard of it :) | 20:16 |
| wxl | grew up on it | 20:17 |
| * wxl 's first computer was a C=128 | 20:17 | |
| belkinsa | wxl, say it. | 20:18 |
| belkinsa | ;) | 20:18 |
| wxl | belkinsa: hands off my cloak? :) | 20:18 |
| belkinsa | My family's first computer was a Windows 3.1 | 20:18 |
| belkinsa | No, wrong channel. The news. | 20:18 |
| jvlb | CP/M was the first popular OS for microcomputers. It ran on Intel 8080s and 8085s as well as Zilog Z80s. That was in the late '70s. | 20:18 |
| wxl | in case you all werent in #ubuntu-meeting the reverification is going to happen via a private bug report that the loco council will use | 20:19 |
| wxl | if there are any comments or concerns, please send them to me and i'll get them on there | 20:19 |
| wxl | i'm not 100% sure why they have to be private but c'est la vie | 20:19 |
| jvlb | There was a later variant that ran on the 8086 architecture, called CP/M 86, which competed with MS DOS. | 20:19 |
| belkinsa | And the voting will be done via LC's mailing-list | 20:19 |
| wxl | yeppers | 20:20 |
| wxl | outside of the commodore, i cut my teeth on remote freebsd shells a la the cleveland freenet | 20:20 |
| shirgall | I did CP/M on a Z80 card in a a Apple ][ ;) | 20:22 |
| shirgall | wxl: I don't have any comments or concerns, it seemed pretty routine for a re-up | 20:23 |
| wxl | yep | 20:23 |
| wxl | that's what i thought too | 20:23 |
| jvlb | A Z80 was a screamer compared to the Mostek 6502. | 20:23 |
| shirgall | 4.77MHz should be enough for anybody... but I did want to move up to having DIV and MUL in assembly. | 20:25 |
| jvlb | Hey, real geeks only code in binary. | 20:25 |
| shirgall | I did VAX assembly, does that count? ;) | 20:26 |
| wxl | real geeks punch cards | 20:26 |
| jvlb | Or tapes. | 20:26 |
| wxl | real geeks weave | 20:26 |
| jvlb | Paper tapes, that is. | 20:26 |
| shirgall | Real geeks remember using a sharpie to mark a deck from corner to corner to make it easier to put back in order after an operator dropped the deck | 20:26 |
| wxl | hahahah | 20:26 |
| shirgall | And, yeah, I remember 1600 bits per inch with half inch gaps between blocks | 20:27 |
| shirgall | You all are making me feel old. | 20:27 |
| shirgall | But this year does mark 30 years in IT for me. | 20:28 |
| wxl | nice | 20:28 |
| shirgall | (back in July) | 20:28 |
| jvlb | @shirgall: It should make you feel better, then, to know I started in '71 on a Telex terminal, with Fortran IV. | 20:29 |
| meetingology | jvlb: Error: "shirgall:" is not a valid command. | 20:29 |
| wxl | sudo make-me-coffee | 20:29 |
| shirgall | jvlb: I meant getting paid for it, I had a Decwriter and a DEC 10 to learn BASIC and TECO back in the 70s (my Dad worked at University of Wyoming) | 20:30 |
| shirgall | Anyway... | 20:30 |
| jvlb | Okay, I started getting paid for it in '77. If you call what I got "getting paid". | 20:31 |
| shirgall | I know the feeling. ;) | 20:33 |
| jvlb | Well, I gotta bug out. Catch y'all later. | 20:34 |
| shirgall | http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2014/11/18/regular-loco-council-meeting-for-november-2014/ | 22:52 |
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