[05:20] <Squirm> morning
[05:30] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[05:30] <Maaz> Hello Kilos
[05:30] <Kilos> wow lagging bad
[05:30] <Kilos> 17secs
[05:31] <Kilos> morninginesquand others
[05:31] <Kilos> oi
[05:35]  * Kilos tries again
[05:36] <Kilos> morning Squirm inetpro and others
[05:41] <Kilos> more bushtech 
[05:51] <Squirm> hey Kilos
[06:01] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy Xethron 
[06:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings :)
[06:23] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:34] <Kilos> Maaz: seen tinuvamac
[06:34] <Maaz> Kilos: tinuvamac was last seen 11 days, 11 hours, 17 minutes and 22 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-11-06 11:17:03 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-11-14 07:14:26 PST
[06:42] <bduk> Morning everyone
[06:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> Maaz: seen tinuvama_
[06:42] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: tinuvama_ was last seen 3 days, 17 hours, 34 minutes and 7 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-11-14 05:08:10 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-11-14 05:28:42 PST
[06:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos-: ^^
[06:43] <Kilos-> ty ThatGraemeGuy i just want him to post a screenshot of a mac so i can compare elementaryos look to it
[06:44] <Kilos-> trying to find what they look like is not easy with google
[06:45] <Kilos-> what i found shows wallpaper but not the bottom of the screen so i can see that docker thing
[06:49] <Kilos> ai!
[07:30]  * Kilos changing sims again, sorry
[07:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> sit still :P
[08:04] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac 
[08:04] <TinuvaMac> hi
[08:05] <Kilos> please post a screenshot so i can see what a mac desktop looks like
[08:05] <Kilos> no rush
[08:05] <TinuvaMac> nothing special
[08:05] <TinuvaMac> kinda like gnome3 + cairo dock - desktop icons
[08:05] <Kilos> i have installed elementaryos and read it looks like mac
[08:06] <Kilos> but am back on kde so no rush
[08:14] <TinuvaMac> http://thor.hero.za.net/mac/screenshot-mac-desktop.png
[08:14] <TinuvaMac> http://thor.hero.za.net/mac/screenshot-mac-dock-not-hidden.png
[08:14] <TinuvaMac> http://thor.hero.za.net/mac/screenshot-mac-irc.png
[08:14] <TinuvaMac> http://thor.hero.za.net/mac/screenshot-mac-safari-browser.png
[08:14] <TinuvaMac> http://thor.hero.za.net/mac/screenshot-mac-notifications-today.png
[08:14] <TinuvaMac> http://thor.hero.za.net/mac/screenshot-mac-notifications-actual.png
[08:14] <TinuvaMac> there you go Kilos
[08:15] <Kilos> ty TinuvaMac 
[08:16] <TinuvaMac> well thats the newest mac osx anyway
[08:16] <TinuvaMac> the previous version was more classic
[08:16] <Kilos> ?
[08:16] <TinuvaMac> but i only ran it for like a week before the new version came out
[08:16] <Kilos> first one dont show the dock thing, do you hide the dock
[08:16] <TinuvaMac> yeah i hide 
[08:17] <TinuvaMac> otherwise it takes that bottom space away from windows
[08:17] <Kilos> where is it ? thats what i actually want to see
[08:17] <TinuvaMac> i like to be able to make windows go bigger
[08:17] <TinuvaMac> check the 2nd link i posted
[08:17] <Kilos> ok
[08:17] <TinuvaMac> named dock-not-hidden
[08:17] <Kilos> ah
[08:17] <TinuvaMac> but again, thats the  new dock in OSX 10.10
[08:17] <TinuvaMac> in 10.9 it looked completely different
[08:18] <TinuvaMac> in 10.9 it was more 3d'ish
[08:18] <TinuvaMac> cairo dock probably mimicks the older 10.9 dock
[08:18] <Kilos> oh ya, elementaryos looks the same
[08:18] <TinuvaMac> ah ok
[08:18] <Kilos> nice car
[08:18] <Kilos> ty for that
[08:18] <TinuvaMac> haha yeah, love eleanor
[08:19] <TinuvaMac> well glad you like it
[08:19] <TinuvaMac> but even though elementaryos tries to look like mac, it will never be the same really
[08:20] <TinuvaMac> osx still has a massive edge
[08:20] <TinuvaMac> its as easy as windows, if not easier, and has the power of unix behind it
[08:20] <TinuvaMac> i never used to like apple products, but this osx convinced me to join the i-herd
[08:20] <TinuvaMac> so now i am too, an i-sheep
[08:31] <charl> good morning
[08:31] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:31]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:35] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:36] <Kilos> hi charl 
[08:38] <Kilos> hmm... curried kaaiings even better
[08:54] <charl> Maaz: danke
[08:54] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:54] <charl> hi Kilos 
[09:13] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[09:18] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[13:03] <charl> hi Cantide 
[13:03] <Cantide> hi!
[13:03] <Cantide> it's been a long time 'o'
[13:03] <Cantide> how have you been?
[13:04] <Cantide> >_>
[13:06] <Kilos-> hi Cantide 
[13:06] <Cantide> hallo '-'
[13:15] <charl> moshi moshi
[13:15] <Cantide> o'o
[13:15] <Cantide> yeobusaeyo?
[13:16] <charl> oh now i get it
[13:16] <Cantide> I hear Japan has entered a recession
[13:16] <charl> you've been in asia for too long you speak in emoticons now
[13:16] <Cantide> lol
[13:16] <Cantide> i did this before coming to Asia
[13:16] <Cantide> i've only been here a year ,_,
[13:16] <charl> be careful or you'll turn into a weeaboo
[13:17] <Cantide> what's that?
[13:17] <charl> have you seen filthy frank's show over weeaboos
[13:17] <Cantide> 'o'
[13:17] <Cantide> i haven't
[13:17] <charl> ok one moment
[13:17] <Cantide> nor do i know who filthy frank is
[13:17] <charl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFQQALduhzA
[13:19] <Cantide> aha
[13:19] <Cantide> i see
[13:19] <Cantide> i'm totally not a weeaboo
[13:19] <Cantide> his voice will drive me mad, so i'll pause this :p
[13:20] <charl> true, true
[13:20] <Cantide> aahhhhhhhhhhhhh
[13:20] <Cantide> i skipped a bit
[13:20] <Cantide> he has a wig
[13:20] <Cantide> ahahaahahaha
[13:22] <charl> that guy is past crazy
[13:22] <charl> waaaaay past crazy
[13:22] <charl> crazy was a long time ago
[13:23] <Cantide> i think he has permanently damaged his voice
[13:23] <Cantide> and soon he will sound like a weeaboo forever
[13:23] <Cantide> but he does make good points
[13:23] <Cantide> and makes a lot of sense
[13:24] <Cantide> whilst disrespecting many people
[15:37] <somaunn> Hello Guys
[15:38] <somaunn> Hello Kilos-
[15:38] <Kilos-> hi somaunn 
[15:39] <somaunn> What news ???
[15:51] <somaunn> Possible to get a full ubuntu image ?
[15:52] <somaunn> with KDE and GNOME and all these desktops in there ?
[16:01] <Kilos-> lol
[16:01] <Kilos-> fighting cell phone as well
[16:01] <Kilos-> and trying to get whatsapp in pidgin
[16:03] <somaunn> Kilos-: fighting for whatsapp.... massive lol
[16:04] <Kilos-> i want to use it in pidgin
[16:04] <Kilos-> fone too small for me to use comfortably
[16:04] <somaunn> lolol
[16:07] <Kilos-> and working on a motherboard that had the graphics card socket broken out
[16:07] <somaunn> just buy a new graphic bro
[16:09] <Kilos-> no its the socket where the graphics card plugs in that has been broken off the board
[16:09] <Kilos-> so many pins sticking up in the air
[16:10] <Kilos-> all bent and buckled and touching each other etc
[16:10] <somaunn> bad news bro bad news
[16:11] <Kilos-> i want to remove one from another board and solder it in place but good eyes needed
[16:11] <Kilos-> pins very close to each other
[16:53] <Kilos-> hi ,joe
[16:53] <Kilos-> hmm...
[16:53] <Kilos-> Joe_knock: 
[16:53] <Kilos-> thats better
[16:53] <Joe_knock> Hey there Kilos- 
[16:54] <Kilos-> oh my
[16:54] <Joe_knock> Username change?
[16:54] <Kilos> must have disconnected sometime
[16:56] <Kilos> evening superfly 
[16:56] <Kilos> hi z3r009 
[16:56] <z3r009> sup
[16:57] <Kilos> not much and you?
[16:57] <z3r009> same, just setting up openvpn.
[16:57] <Joe_knock> z3r009 looks new
[16:57] <Kilos> ya
[16:58] <z3r009> i am new. yes. 
[16:58] <Kilos> now and again we attrack newcomers that stay
[16:58] <Kilos> attract
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:04] <z3r009> uh, can I ask a vague question?(besides this one)
[17:10] <Joe_knock> sure z3r009 
[17:11] <Joe_knock> I may reply slow, I have to afk.
[17:12] <z3r009> i forgot how to fix this, but how do you solve that ubuntu error where it won't apt-get stuff?
[17:13] <Joe_knock> that's not vague. what command isn't working and what is the error?
[17:17] <z3r009> the network connection is working, might've had something to with headers..
[17:17] <z3r009> apt-get install and apt-get update fails.
[17:19] <z3r009> yea, i'm not on ubuntu right now, so forgot the error, but i've encountered it a bunch of times on fresh installs of ubuntu/mint
[17:23] <z3r009> pretty vague without the error code..
[17:23] <Kilos> z3r009: sudo apt-get update does what?
[17:23] <Kilos> maybe a morror is down
[17:23] <Kilos> mirror
[17:24] <z3r009> oh well, i'll fix it later. 
[17:25] <Kilos> where are you?
[17:25] <Kilos> just run update manager and choose best server
[17:26] <Kilos> then it finds the best one for you
[17:27] <z3r009> cool.
[17:51] <Joe_knock> strange request.
[17:52] <Kilos> he is new to linux i think
[17:52] <Joe_knock> he should definitely be using the update manager then.
[17:55] <Kilos> i forget who he is, the was someone came here too that had to install ubuntu on 10 lappies at work i think, might be him
[17:56] <inetpro> maybe he tried doing it without sudo
[17:56] <inetpro> good evening
[17:56] <Kilos> then it should tell him you dont have permission inetpro not so?
[17:56] <Kilos> hi there\
[17:57] <Kilos> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[17:57] <inetpro> true, but he didn't give the exact error message, did he?
[17:58] <Kilos> remember i also battled in the beginning because many guides and help places dont tell noobs about sudo
[17:58] <Kilos> at least update manager with ask for a  password
[18:02] <Kilos> i wonder now if he is the windows guy installing ubuntu on them 10 lappeis for his company
[18:02] <Kilos> i got the idea they are going to market them as dual boot lappies
[18:03] <Joe_knock> selling them? I'd buy one.
[18:04] <Kilos> serious?
[18:04] <Kilos> i think they were to dual boot with win8.1
[18:06] <inetpro> wow!
[18:06] <Joe_knock> I've been looking for a new laptop for a while now. We have terrible prices in SA
[18:06] <inetpro> Whatsapp integrating Textsecure to make it the largest deployment of end-to-end encryption ever http://wrd.cm/1vmuG0g
[18:07] <Kilos> ill try remember if he pops in again Joe_knock 
[18:08] <Kilos> whatsapp is ok i think for light conversations
[18:08] <Joe_knock> hopefully the price isn't +1000 the regular price.
[18:09] <Kilos> seen some reports on court cases where the get whatsapp logs to use as evidence'
[18:09] <Kilos> ill ask Joe_knock 
[18:09] <Kilos> you want windows too?
[18:09] <Joe_knock> It's weird how whatsapp is american when most of the users are cost-savers and this same app could've been built in a third-world country.
[18:09] <Joe_knock> if the windows is there or not, it's fine.
[18:10] <Kilos> hehe if i ever get one first thing i do is wipe win
[18:11] <Joe_knock> do you still have interest in consumer things?
[18:12] <Kilos> whats that?
[18:12] <Kilos> eggs and bread
[18:12] <Joe_knock> those are basics. things like iphone 6 and android tablet, etc. 
[18:14] <Kilos> oh no i dont have money for that kinda stuff, got a xperia only for whatsapp and working to get whatsapp in pidgin then the fone gets shelved
[18:14] <Kilos> i have an old nokia that can do sms and fone calls
[18:14] <Kilos> pc must do everything else
[18:15] <Kilos> but having spent some time on the xperia i will maybe be able to use a tablet now
[18:15] <Kilos> the touch screen and android frightened me to start with
[18:18] <Joe_knock> aah so it kind of "is" there.
[18:18] <Kilos> hehe ya
[18:18] <Kilos> im to old for all this new stuff
[18:20] <inetpro> just need to be careful that we don't get a false sense of security now with whatsapp, they can still do anything in the background when integrating to their solution
[18:21] <Kilos> z3r009: 
[18:21] <Kilos> talk to me
[18:21] <Kilos> are you the one installing ubuntu onto 10 lappies
[18:21] <Joe_knock> sounds dodgy to me. facebook will have a backdoor.
[18:22] <Kilos> best place to chat serious stuff is pidgin otr
[18:22] <Kilos> irc otr is hard work
[18:23] <Kilos> maybe dcc chat is safe i dunno
[18:23] <charl> dcc chat is also plaintext when it goes over the wire
[18:23] <charl> irssi supports otr too over irc
[18:23] <gremble> Hmm, there is an encrpyted chat extention for chrome called cryptocat
[18:23] <Kilos> but isnt it direct between the 2 pcs
[18:24] <gremble> Kilos: even if something is direct, it can still easily be extracted
[18:24] <Kilos> oi
[18:24] <gremble> man in the middle
[18:24] <Kilos> what is in the middle of dcc chat?
[18:25] <Joe_knock> The fibre optic cable 
[18:25] <Kilos> lol
[18:25] <Kilos> so much safer than whatsapp and facebook chat
[18:26] <Kilos> oh you mean someone can eavesdrop via the cable
[18:27] <gremble> Eavesdrop in your computer, in the computer of the recipient, as the service provider
[18:27] <gremble> If it is not encrypted, it is probably bad
[18:27] <Kilos> wow wont my firewall block them?
[18:27] <Joe_knock> yep, for all the so-called "software encryption", there is still major control over the actual hardware.
[18:28] <Kilos> so otr is still the best
[18:28] <Kilos> then the 2 pcs encrypt to each other right?
[18:33] <Kilos> inetpro: temm me man
[18:33] <Kilos> tell me
[18:35] <inetpro> haha, no point in encrypting irc apart from when you enter your password
[18:35] <Kilos> haha
[18:35] <gremble> You can connect to the IRC using SSL
[18:36] <gremble> Or you can connect to a TOR relay that encrypts using SSL/TLS and also bouncing the connection through a couple of relays
[18:36] <inetpro> gremble: that's just between you and the server
[18:36] <gremble> Yes
[18:36] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:36] <gremble> What else would you want to do?
[18:36] <gremble> haha
[18:37] <charl> otr, simple
[18:37] <gremble> The content is sort of - public?
[18:37] <Kilos> pidgin otr it is
[18:37] <charl> works across all protocols and has been around for years and years
[18:37] <charl> irssi otr, pidgin otr, any client supporting otr across any protocol
[18:37] <inetpro> any other party who does not do the encryption thing is your weakest link
[18:38] <Kilos> irc otr is lots of work, pidgin is much easier to setup
[18:38] <inetpro> consider everything public
[18:38] <charl> depends on the client Kilos 
[18:39] <Kilos> well, luckily i dont have deep dark sectrets to expose
[18:39] <Kilos> irc is ok for me
[18:39] <Kilos> secrets
[18:39] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:40] <charl> inetpro: i'm not even sure if otr works in group conversations, but i never tried it, but for one to one it's ok
[18:40] <charl> and you still need to trust the other party that they are not logging the conversation regardless
[18:41] <charl> that in addition to their computer not being vulnerable
[18:41] <inetpro> for proper security you need to look at a number of factors
[18:41] <charl> what the nsa will do is they will simply bypass the cryptography and exploit the endpoints
[18:41] <charl> hi magespawn 
[18:41] <magespawn> good evening
[18:41] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:41] <magespawn> hi charl
[18:42] <charl> how are you magespawn 
[18:42] <inetpro> for some tips see Methodology at https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard 
[18:42] <gremble> hosepype decryption
[18:42] <magespawn> o/ Kilos
[18:42] <inetpro> hi magespawn
[18:42] <magespawn> hi inetpro
[18:43] <Joe_knock> south africa is insignificant to the world. all they can do is log about the racist commenters there at news24
[18:43] <charl> sheesh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber-hose_cryptanalysis
[18:44] <charl> In cryptography, rubber-hose cryptanalysis is the extraction of cryptographic secrets (e.g. the password to an encrypted file) from a person by coercion or torture[1][2]—such as beating that person with a rubber hose, thus the name—in contrast to a mathematical or technical cryptanalytic attack.
[18:44] <gremble> Much cheaper than most other methods
[18:47] <gremble> Looking for the XCKD comic on encryption, found this instead https://xkcd.com/424/
[18:47] <Tonberry> I was reaching for http://xkcd.com/538/
[18:48] <gremble> That was the one I was looking for
[18:48] <gremble> :P
[18:49] <Kilos> oh wow got a dual core pc here that you cant change drives unless you drill pop rivets out of the back cover and small sidw=e cover
[18:52] <Kilos> definitely not made for peeps like me
[18:53] <Joe_knock> how big is the drive?
[18:54] <Kilos> 40g
[18:55] <Kilos> i want to build it up for my sis who only has a p3
[18:55] <Kilos> she still thinks 40g is massive
[18:56] <charl> waaaaaat
[18:57] <Joe_knock> it may be enough for her if she just wants it for browsing/email.
[18:57] <Kilos> haha 
[18:57] <charl> well my laptop has 128gb ssd and frankly that's enough for me too
[18:57] <Joe_knock> it's strange that a dual core is using 40GB. How old is it?
[18:58] <Joe_knock> charl how is the experience watching an HD video with an SSD?
[18:58] <Kilos> she plays age of empires 2 and keeps all her photos and music, browses with tablet
[18:58] <charl> Joe_knock: the same as watching an HD video from regular HDD
[18:58] <charl> the bitrate is too low, an HDD is fine
[18:58] <Joe_knock> aah I see.
[18:59] <charl> even for high quality 4k i believe (haven't tried)
[18:59] <Joe_knock> age of empires 2... so she will need windows
[19:01] <Kilos> ya
[19:04] <Kilos> oh wow some more
[19:05] <Joe_knock> you guys watching the friendly games tonight?
[19:05] <Kilos> everything is behind the from cover with screws and plastic clips that hols the hdd brakets in place
[19:07] <charl> wb magespawn 
[19:08] <Joe_knock> imgur? Kilos 
[19:08] <Kilos> is that a pic paste thing
[19:11] <Joe_knock> yep, send us a picture of the rig.
[19:13] <Kilos> let me see if i can make this xperia take a pic then find how to make bluetooth work
[19:13] <Kilos> my nokias memory card is in the xperia sigh
[19:15] <Joe_knock> do you have a USB cable?
[19:17] <Kilos> not that shows up the thing on my pc
[19:17] <Kilos> have usb cable that fits in it from my nokia but pc dont see anything
[19:19] <Kilos> maybe i have to install some android stuff in kubuntu to make it work
[19:19] <Kilos> inetpro: help man
[19:20] <Kilos> maaz google how to connect xperia to kubuntu pc
[19:20] <Maaz> Kilos: "[How-To] Connect an Android device using MTP in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS ..." http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2226702 :: "How to transfer files betwen my Xperia Neo (Android 2.3)" http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/14694/file-transfer-how-to-transfer-files-betwen-my-xperia-neo-android-2-3-and-kubu :: "linux - Can't explore files on my Sony Xperia U
[19:20] <Maaz> using my Ubuntu ..." http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/36376/cant-explore-files…
[19:28] <Kilos> hmm... looking for setting to make it usb mode
[19:28] <Kilos> Joe_knock: this could take a while
[19:29] <bushtech> ai kilos
[19:29] <Kilos> maybe easier to just put the memory card back in the nokia
[19:29] <Kilos> ek sukkel man
[19:37] <Kilos> Joe_knock: http://picpaste.com/Image0080-VjRBoCIC.jpg
[19:37] <Kilos> see basic nokia much easier
[19:39] <bushtech> what do those 2 blue thingies do on the front?
[19:39] <Kilos> sien jy dit bushtech ?
[19:39] <bushtech> yep
[19:40] <Kilos> those are the plastic clips that hold drive bracket in place
[19:40] <Kilos> you lever them in and pull drives
[19:41] <bushtech> so dont you release drive with them?
[19:41] <Kilos> after removing screws of course
[19:41] <Kilos> the whloe drive bracket comes out so you can add/remove the drives
[19:42] <bushtech> so what's the problem?
[19:43] <Kilos> no prob now anymore. i couldnt see how to get to drive screws before
[19:43] <Joe_knock> that is quite an old machine there
[19:44] <Kilos> now i gotta pull out them front cover wires that go to m/b as well 
[19:44] <Kilos> sigh
[19:44] <Kilos> always battle to get them back right
[19:44] <bushtech> yes make note of where they go
[19:45] <Kilos> eish
[19:45] <Kilos> drive rivetted into bracket too
[19:45] <Joe_knock> take enough photos of the structure before dismantling
[19:45] <Kilos> what a horrible pc for a player
[19:45] <bushtech> or take photo :)
[19:46] <Kilos> ill remember most of it, i can do things i can see
[19:46] <bushtech> drive riveted into bracket???
[19:46] <Kilos> ya
[19:46] <Kilos> no screws on the sides , only rivets
[19:46] <bushtech> holy moly!
[19:47] <Kilos> this was definitely made to only go to the agents for repairs
[19:47] <bushtech> this thing built by a panel beater?
[19:47] <Kilos> rofl
[19:47] <Kilos> never seen anything like it
[19:48] <bushtech> ok, but you just want to put another drive in there?
[19:49] <Kilos> yes i want to add a drive but first
[19:50] <Kilos> i want to clone her 13g to the 40g then resize the 40g so it has spanne space then add her 13g as a second drive
[19:51] <Kilos> she want it to work same as her p3 just faster and with more space
[19:51] <Kilos> hehe
[19:51] <bushtech> ok, but you dont need to pop rivet the replacement drive in there
[19:51] <Kilos> no ill use screws
[19:51] <bushtech> just let the repl. drive lie loose in there\
[19:52] <bushtech> or cable tie it to something 
[19:52] <Kilos> but i need to remove this ones rivets to bring the drive to my pc so i can try that dd command to clone the drives
[19:52] <Kilos> nee man goed moet vas wees
[19:52] <bushtech> crap
[19:53] <Kilos> lol
[19:53] <bushtech> take drive with bracket to other computer
[19:53] <Kilos> do you use cable ties and prestic there?
[19:53] <Kilos> oh ya
[19:53] <Kilos> clever fella
[19:53] <bushtech> anything that works
[19:54] <bushtech> don't go jogging with my computers so stuff don't need bolting down
[19:54] <Kilos> lol
[19:54] <Kilos> ill take pics of those cables tomorrow in the sunlight
[19:55] <Kilos> whew what a job
[19:55] <Kilos> my whole bed full of bits and pieces,
[19:56] <bushtech> please make notes, take photos
[19:56] <Kilos> yip will do
[19:57] <Kilos> even the screws are different to those on my other pcs
[19:59] <bushtech> where do you find this stuff?
[20:00] <bushtech> rhetorical question/ignore
[20:02] <bushtech> heh you remind me of a guy who popped up on an irc one night, got a new gpu but it didn't fit into his box...........
[20:03] <bushtech> so he cut a piece off it and then popped up on irc  wondering why it didn't work
[20:03] <Joe_knock> :-/
[20:04] <bushtech> that channel went very quiet
[20:07] <Kilos> my boet gave it to me
[20:07] <Kilos> before he left for dubai
[20:07] <bushtech> does he like you?
[20:08] <Kilos> hahaha maybe not. but he is one of those who has money and buys things custom built to suit his needs and if it gives probs he takes it back
[20:09] <bushtech> hmmm
[20:09] <Kilos> only thing on it that dont still work is the dvdrom that has a stuck door
[20:10] <Kilos> was a good pc in its time i think
[20:10] <Kilos> kinda top of the range'
[20:10] <Kilos> 2g dual core
[20:10] <bushtech> silicon spray the door mechanism
[20:10] <Kilos> crawler in todays times
[20:11] <Kilos> i dont have that spray but have it in liquid form so will open it and see wassup
[20:12] <Kilos> the silicon liquid they use to lubricate injection things with
[20:12] <bushtech> should work
[20:14] <magespawn> good night all
[20:17] <Kilos> night guys. sleep tight
[20:17] <bushtech> night Kilos
[21:39] <somaunn> hello guys
[21:40] <somaunn> I'm having a strange issue with my KDE install since few days now
[21:40] <somaunn> as soon as i reduce certain windows (skype, vlc to be precise) my KDM goes blanck (black screen and white bar at the bottom
[21:40] <somaunn> then can do nothiung else than go to another tty and reboot everything