[00:01] <dum84> will deja dupe enable me to 1:1 so as to repair system disasters (although unlikely to happen)?
[00:02] <dum84> I need this because system will lie on a SSD disk which might fail sooner than expected
[00:06]  * dum84 is startpaging
[00:09] <Unit193> I don't think it does, but another name I know of (but not much about), is bacula.  It may or may not be worth checking out (fwiw, I use rsync container and only what I want)
[00:10] <dum84> but do you backup the system itself?
[00:11] <dum84> I think I understood that all these software backup folders rather than entire disks
[00:14] <dum84> Clonezilla still convinces me..
[00:15] <dum84> and deja dup would be perfect for backing up personal folders
[00:24] <dum84> mmm... hard to have others boot from CD and follow the wizard of CloneZilla Live... I'll have to think of something else
[00:25] <dum84> can one clone their system drive while using it?
[00:34] <dum84> thanks for your help
[00:34] <dum84> good night
[00:35] <kyfami> Moving back to xubuntu from openSUSE and currently installing, I was wondering... Would you recommend btfrs over ext4? Or is btfrs too new still to be regarded as a reliable filesystem?
[02:22] <n-iCe> hello
[04:05] <xubuntu38w> Can someone please pass along advice for getting a new xubuntu wifi account set up? I am wired in to be here
[04:05] <xubuntu38w> Can someone please pass along advice for getting a new xubuntu wifi account set up? I am wired in to be here
[04:06] <xubuntu38w> doh
[04:08] <Unit193> "wifi account"?  If your wireless card isn't working, perhaps you need the driver for it.
[04:09] <cfhowlett> xubuntu38w, this ^^^
[04:10] <cfhowlett> !details | xubuntu38w
[04:11] <xubuntu38w> was just running regular ubuntu for 3 years, my harddrive crashed, got a new one and sold on installing xubuntu, and today is day one of opening and seeing whats working and not
[04:12] <xubuntu38w> i have my att router up that my ubuntu was able to work off just fine
[04:12] <cfhowlett> xubuntu38w, I'd bet you didn't install the required drivers
[04:12] <cfhowlett> !wifi
[04:12] <xubuntu38w> thanks!
[05:19] <ubuntuaddicted> where would I set my x server to start with the -bs option? lightdm.conf.d/10-xubuntu.conf just says user-session=xubuntu  so i'm not sure where the actual command is for starting X
[05:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> unless you don't have a desktop manager installed, the dm is what starts the x session.
[05:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> the user session just sets what desktop environment the user will use, when signing in.
[05:21] <Unit193> lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf
[05:23] <Unit193> Not supposed to edit things in /usr/share as much, so copy that to the etc dir and edit that (else upgrades will overwrite without asking.  If you upgrade, diff them for a manual "merge".)
[05:26] <ubuntuaddicted> Unit193, i don't follow sorry.  lightdm is just booting xubuntu session. i'm asking what conf file actually starts X for xubuntu?
[05:30] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, i'm using whatever comes in Xubuntu
[05:32] <Poisoned_Dragon> what is the -bs argument for?
[05:34] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, disabling backing store without disabling composite. it's mentioned here and about the bug in X where setting the option in xorg.conf doesn't actually disable it  https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/679688/linux/tearing-in-sdl-1-2-apps-unless-composite-extension-is-completely-disabled-/
[05:36] <Poisoned_Dragon> I don't know what backing store is. :(
[05:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> Any tearing issues I had with xfce, I attributed to the built-in compositor. So, I disabled it and installed compton.
[05:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> Works like a dream.
[05:38] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, yes, i've done that already
[05:39] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, so i see in lightdm log file it starts X using Launching process 3565: /usr/bin/X -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch  so i just need to find the file that adding those options on the end
[05:39] <Poisoned_Dragon> then I got a compton conf file that has the settings I need.
[05:39] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, sure, if you care to link me to a pastebin that would be great but i'm betting i'm already using it
[05:39] <Poisoned_Dragon> Hmm... I never had that issue on an nvidia card.
[05:40] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, do you use dual monitors?  can you watch this video without any screen tearing on your gaming monitor? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xkNy9gfKOg
[05:41] <Poisoned_Dragon> No, I just stick to single monitors. Also, I'm not on my pc with the nvidia card. This laptop has an old intel 945 chipset.
[05:41] <Poisoned_Dragon> I used the conf from here... http://duncanlock.net/blog/2013/06/07/how-to-switch-to-compton-for-beautiful-tear-free-compositing-in-xfce/
[05:41] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, it's probably the same.
[05:41] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, yeap, i use those settings. :)
[05:42] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, so....... back to my original question. where is the conf file that tells X what options to launch with
[05:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> I thought Unit193 mentioned that, already.
[05:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf
[05:43] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, that's only X -core
[05:44] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh... hmmm.
[05:44] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, plus he mentioned something about moving it to /etc/, not sure what he means.
[05:44] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then, I'm not sure. never fiddled that hard with lightdm conf files.
[05:48] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, ok, i found out just editing the 50-xserver-command.conf is suggested here so i'll just do that instead of copying it to /etc/. http://askubuntu.com/questions/450593/how-do-i-eliminate-screen-tearing-on-14-04-and-xbmc-with-nvidia-331
[05:49] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, i just don't know what he meant by copying it to /etc/ ortherwise i'd do that. probabyl because if the lightdm package is updated my changes will be lost
[05:51] <Poisoned_Dragon> there are lightdm conf files in the /etc directory.
[05:51] <Poisoned_Dragon> If I am interpreting that correctly.
[05:53] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, i know, i've opened everyone and not one of them starts X
[05:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> Hmm... I don't know then.
[05:55] <ubuntuaddicted> ubuntu has so many conf's that load conf's that launch conf's its pretty silly.
[05:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol
[05:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> Welcome to linux.
[05:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> That probably won't change in our lifetime.
[05:56] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, ah but thats not all linux. I don't have this issue in Arch
[05:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> Arch is a whole other beast.
[05:57] <ubuntuaddicted> Arch is linux. :)
[05:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> They pride themselves on streamlining.
[05:57] <ubuntuaddicted> im just making an observation is all
[05:57] <ubuntuaddicted> ubuntu may be end user friendly but when you need to dig into something it's really difficult to get to the root cause
[05:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> The hope is that you won't have to dig. But, I see your concern.
[05:58] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, like in arch and I use kde. i would simply edit /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
[06:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> The only problem with that is updates overriding your changes.
[06:03] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, right, i just don't know if I would copy that 50-xserver-command.conf file to /etc/lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf  OR just /etc/?
[06:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> it's actually /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/
[06:04] <ubuntuaddicted> so that's where i would put the file?
[06:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> And I believe that's where you would copy the conf file.
[06:05] <ubuntuaddicted> Poisoned_Dragon, ok, i'll give that a try. thanks
[06:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> then, edit at your leisure.
[06:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> as root, of course.
[06:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> using sudo
[06:08] <ubuntuaddicted> yeap, already done. going to reboot and see if lightdm log reports the -bs switch being used to start X .    brb
[14:54] <Quixx> Middle click + mouse left/right doesn't seem to adjust window transparency with my desktop like it does on my laptop.
[14:54] <Quixx> This might have something to do with how the thinkpad's middle button is mapped?
[14:55] <Quixx> Middle clicking seems to drop windows behind others.
[15:02] <knome> Quixx, alt+scroll on titlebar
[15:03] <Quixx> alt+scroll zooms the screen
[15:03] <knome> which xubuntu version are you running?
[15:04] <Quixx> 14.10, should be up to date
[15:04] <knome> i guess i have non-default configuration regarding that then
[15:04] <knome> this had some changes in 14.10 when the zoom was introduced
[15:04] <Quixx> Again, on my laptop running the same version, alt+moving the cursor left or right did this
[15:04] <Quixx> but middle clicking the titlebar drops the window on my desktop
[15:05] <Quixx> (Also I'd like my forward/back buttons on my mouse to work, but that's another issue?)
[15:06] <knome> most likely
[16:25] <tyrog> Has anyone tried to use ibus-mozc in 14.10?
[17:18] <voidvoid>  im trying to read a dvdrom but it says "my disc" not authorized to perform operation
[17:18] <voidvoid> and the icon on the desktop looks disable ... some help plz
[17:19] <holstein> voidvoid: what operation are you trying to perform? watch a movie on DVD?
[17:20] <voidvoid> i just put a cd ... and i cant access to it .. it icon for my cd/dvdrom is disable
[17:20] <voidvoid> not authorized to perfom operations
[17:21] <holstein> voidvoid: what are you trying to do? play a music cd?
[17:24] <genii> Probably not in plugdev
[17:54] <dede_> hi
[17:54] <dede_> my xubuntu 14.10 cannot recognize any wireless connection
[17:54] <holstein> !wifi
[17:54] <dede_> frustrating, i am now using other computer
[17:55] <holstein> did the device ever work in linux? does it work in any supported operating systems? ie, is the device functioning properly? and enabled in the bios? etc..
[17:57] <dede_> yes it worked
[17:57] <dede_> 5 months ago, last time I was in college
[17:57] <dede_> at home I am wired
[17:57] <dede_> laptop should have automatically recognized the wifi at college, but it does not cycle
[17:57] <holstein> so, you could have broken hardware since then, or, the kernel isnt supported by the hardware. or, you have a chip that requires proprietary software.. such as
[17:58] <holstein> !broadcom
[18:01] <dede_> have to use another computer
[18:01] <dede_> brb
[18:09] <dede_> hi
[18:09] <dede_> who helped me 4 minutea go?
[18:16] <holstein> dede_: i was communicating with you about a wifi issue.. whats up?
[18:17] <dede_> holstein: did you paste 2 urls?
[18:19] <holstein> !broadcom
[18:19] <holstein> !wifi
[18:19] <holstein> ^ those 2..
[18:33] <voidvoid> genii
[18:34] <voidvoid> it got a microsoft project i want to intall it on playonlinux if i mount it manually it works but i want it have the right permissions that way i dont want to do a "mount" manually
[18:36] <holstein> voidvoid: i would go with whatever "mount it manually" means, since, it can be challenging running applicatition where they are not intended to be ran
[18:39] <voidvoid> when i load a cd/dvdrom only can the the direct access to it "my disc" disable if i want to access by doing double clikc i cant ... it says "not authorized to perform operation"
[18:43] <holstein> voidvoid: if this is related to a game on the disc that is created for windows, i would just copy the data off the disc, if possible..
[18:43] <holstein> voidvoid: if you can run it manually, just do that.. you can create a shortcut to the manual command..
[18:48] <voidvoid> yes it works but i want every time i load a cd/dvd i can read it automatically
[18:49] <holstein> voidvoid: but, its not a CD/DVD, friend. you are talking about windows software
[18:49] <holstein> voidvoid: it depends on what is on the optical disk..
[18:54] <voidvoid> it not what is on the optial disk its about permissions
[19:28] <dede> hi there again
[19:28] <dede> my lapotp
[19:28] <dede> BIOS screen:
[19:28] <dede> ERROR 0271: check date and time settings
[19:28] <dede> warning 0251 system CMOS checksum bad - Default configuration used
[19:28] <dede> press f1 to resume, f2 to setup
[19:29] <dede> its always that, no matter how many times i setup the damned machine, it always shows that thing, together with a loud and annoying beep
[19:31] <deshipu> looks like your cmos battery is dead
[19:31] <deshipu> is that an old computer?
[19:32] <deshipu> also, this is in no way related to linux
[19:32] <dede> deshipu: i ask where I think I can get any help, if you know of any other chanel, plese point that out to me
[19:33] <dede> the computer is 5 years old
[19:33] <deshipu> ##hardware comes to mind
[19:33] <deshipu> just replace the cmos battery
[19:33] <deshipu> it's probably a 3V button battery
[19:33] <dede> deshipu: how much does a new cmos battery cost?
[19:34] <deshipu> dede: http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Lithium-Button-Battery-Retail/dp/B0002DSVTC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1416339244&sr=8-2&keywords=3v+button+cell+battery
[19:34] <deshipu> dede: you can get it cheaper in a local store
[19:34] <deshipu> just make sure you get the right size
[19:34] <deshipu> check what battery is used in yours and buy same one
[19:35] <dede> deshipu: i assume asking in hardware is now redundant...
[19:35] <deshipu> they may have better ideas
[19:36] <dede> deshipu: is 4 years time enough to empty the cmos battery?
[19:37] <deshipu> dede: maybe, or maybe it just got old and lost its charge
[19:37] <dede> deshipu: somehow i cannot send to hardware, am I banned?
[19:37] <deshipu> dede: it may also be something else broken, but I would start with the battery
[19:37] <deshipu> dede: you need to have your nick registered on freenode to send to some channels
[19:38] <dede> ??
[19:38] <deshipu> dede: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#plusr
[19:40] <dede> deshipu: cmos batteries are not reachargeable, are they?
[19:40] <deshipu> no, usually not
[19:40] <dede> great, tomorrow i have to work
[19:40] <deshipu> but I'm not 100% laptops have them
[19:41] <deshipu> since they have their own battery
[19:41] <dede> im confused,
[19:41] <deshipu> you have to check if yours have it
[19:41] <deshipu> has
[19:41] <dede> laptops have a battery, and regardeless of that, the cmos has its own battery, <<?
[19:42] <deshipu> yeah, it's for the internal clock and bios settings
[19:43] <dede> ok, this problem is not related to the inability of my laptop to detect wireless connections.
[19:43] <dede> Im not at a library and everyone connects without problems but me
[19:43] <dede> im now*
[19:44] <dede> is that right?
[19:44] <deshipu> probably not, although it may be something else broken
[19:46] <dede> what could be broken?
[19:51] <deshipu> I don't know
[19:51] <dede> thx deshipu
[19:51] <dede> ill go eat something now
[19:51] <dede> and arrange a moving out
[20:37] <ztxgpsman> good evening (it is here in the uk), I want to move my swap partition (xub 14.10) please can you sanity check me ? >swapoff /dev/old    >mkswap /dev/new >swapon /dev/new     is this sequence correct please? Assuming /dev/new is formatted as Linux-swap. tia!!
[21:22] <neoranger> someone to speak spanish?
[21:46] <genii> !es