keithzgEither way, I'd be interested to hear how thing behave once you've uninstalled the NVIDIA drivers.00:03
tootheI noticed that when I type in something into my KDE start button, I get random internet searches for pages I"ve never been to. Why is that? HOw do I disable that?00:06
toothelet me take that back, some of these are pages I visited months ago.00:06
MobilRoeyhey toothe00:08
MobilRoeyI actually have to get going, but there are others here who surely know00:09
ussher_I've just recently upgraded to 14.04.  lightdm was screwed up, so i purged it and installed kdm.  kdm doesn't start at boot, i need to login then do00:13
ussher_sudo kdm to get going.00:14
ussher_how do you make it start automatically?  Ive seen a few different howto's but none seam to line up with kubuntu.00:14
valoriethat's a bit messed up00:17
MobilRoeystuff screws up - EVERy.SINGLE.TIME I upgrade00:17
ussher_lightdm's resolution is all screwed up00:17
valoriedo you have sddm installed?00:17
MobilRoeyI groan when I think about upgrading00:17
MobilRoeybecause something invariably screws up no matter how stock-install I try and make it00:17
valorieMobilRoey: my upgrades are usually completely great00:17
ussher_i dont have ssdm installed00:17
* MobilRoey fumes :P00:17
MobilRoeyrightgt now I am on my laptop00:18
MobilRoeyas my system is not responsive when I start x00:18
valorieme too, that's my only computer00:18
MobilRoeyI wish I could have your luck, Valorie :)00:18
valorieussher_: kdm hasn't been stock Kubuntu for a long time, so I guess asking in #kde would be more productive00:18
valorieit is old, and SDDM is the future for us00:19
valorieI guess the rest of Ubuntu will continue with LightDM00:19
ussher_for me i got sort of a login screen that worked with lightdm, but the box would flicker and there was no writing.  I lived with it for a few days, but it got annyoing this morning00:19
valoriebut for various reasons we can't/won't do that00:19
MobilRoeyanyway, Valorie, bbl! going to a candlelight vigil in front of the White House for the victims of this morning's massacre in Jerusalem00:20
valorieunsure how to help here; lightdm worked until I moved to SDDM when I upgraded to Plasma 5 in 14.1000:20
ussher_I was on 12.04 LTS so i guess kdm was stock back then, it looks familiar enough.00:21
valoriebye MobilRoey00:21
valorie!info lightdm00:21
ubottulightdm (source: lightdm): Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 114 kB, installed size 604 kB00:21
valorieussher_: afaik we've been using lightdm for a long time00:22
valorieat least since 12.0400:22
valoriehowever, if you have done upgrades for a long time, perhaps you didn't have it00:22
ussher_i've been on kubuntu since before that so maybe thats why.  Looking into SDDM (simple desktop display manager) now.  Not particually in love with kdm, but it works.  if sddm works too, thats fine.00:23
valorieussher_: I wouldn't advise switching to SDDM just now00:29
valorieafaik it is waiting to be put into the archive00:30
valorieI got it from ppa next00:30
valorieso wait a week00:30
ussher_ok, back to the first plan.00:30
ussher_get kdm to start at startup.  I'll ask in #kde00:30
ussher_thanks for all your help valorie00:30
tootheI noticed that when I search for things in the KDE start menu, I get google hits for things I searched for months ago.00:34
tootheI thought it was only suposed to search for local files?00:34
keithzgussher_: have you tried running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"?00:34
ussher_I did that to change to kdm during the install of it.  I can try again.00:35
ussher_yeah, its just the same option, "choose kdm" then OK.00:36
throdonhas anyone used awesom wm with or without KDE/Kwin00:36
ussher_thanks for the idea keithzg00:36
keithzgHmm, alright. ussher_, I'd try shutting down the KDM instance that you've started manually, then from a VT try "sudo service kdm start" and see what it does.00:37
keithzgThat should start it the same way it's in theory *trying* to start it, so you might get some useful errror messages back.00:37
ussher_i'll give it a go.  I'll come back once i do.  Im on the pc its needed on here, so gone for a bit.00:38
keithzgFair enough00:38
ussher_no love keithzg.  still the same.  But now im looking for "how to start a service at startup" instead, so that might be more fruitful.  Thanks for the idea.00:47
keithzgussher_: Yeah, if all goes according to plan it should be started by the default installed upstart service for kdm. Clearly something is going wrong somewhere along that path.00:48
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ussher_Got it sorted. in /etc/X11/default-display-manager was a link to 'kde-trinity's version of kdm.  I changed that to the actual version of kdm and now I have a login screen again.  Thanks keithzg, valoire for the help.02:31
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keithzgussher_: no problem, glad to hear you got it sorted!02:59
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valoriehehe, kde-trinity05:51
valoriethat's hilarious05:51
mokushanybody else having issues with kate and dolphin freezing after about 10 mins of usage? 14.10 with plasma5?08:09
valoriemokush: I think it is plasma5 freezing08:13
valorieat least I've not had a problem with the actual applications freezing08:13
mokushvalorie: it's just the apps. these two. I can force close them, then open them again. I belive it's caused by kio_file, since they both seem to be using it08:13
valoriecould be08:14
valorieplease file a bug08:14
valorieeasiest way is `ubuntu-bug kate` for instance08:14
valoriein the cli08:14
mokushvalorie: thanks, will do08:14
valoriethank you08:14
lordievaderGood morning.08:18
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mokushvalorie: when trying `ubuntu-bug kate` I'm getting a `This is not an official Ubuntu package.` error. Is it because I'm using the backports ppa?08:23
valorieah, you are on next08:26
valoriesome of that software is not in the archives yet08:26
lordievaderThe package 'kate' exists though in the archives.08:26
lordievaderBut it probably checks the source of the installed package.08:27
valorieanyway, please check for bugreports here, mokush08:28
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valorielet me shorten that08:28
lordievaderErr, the Kubuntu next doesn't have a Kate package?08:28
mokushthis is even weirder. so, I uninstalled it, but not I can't reinstall it because of the `unmet dependencies` issue.08:28
lordievadermokush: What is the output of 'apt-cache policy kate'?08:29
mokushlordievader: http://paste.kde.org/pppnhvijh08:30
lordievader!info kate08:30
ubottukate (source: kate): powerful text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.14.1-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 679 kB, installed size 3115 kB08:30
lordievaderThat is the one from the archives.08:30
mokushlordievader: this is what I'm getting when trying to reinstall it: http://paste.kde.org/pvkgggnr508:31
lordievaderHehe, not very surprising.08:32
lordievaderWasn't the Kubuntu Next ppa EOL?08:32
mokushlordievader: is there any way I can work around it?08:32
valorieno, that is neon that is gone08:33
lordievaderHmm, because this is a difficult pickle.08:33
lordievaderThe packages from the ppa prevent the installation of kate, as that version is older...08:33
valoriemokush: does `sudo apt install -f` help?08:34
mokushvalorie: nope, same thing.08:34
mokushlordievader: well, this sucks. so the version from the next ppa is older?08:35
mokushI see that that I have two packages installed now `katepart` and `ktexteditor-katepart`. the `katepart` one seems to have no origin08:36
lordievadermokush: No the problem is that Kate is not provided in the Kubuntu Next ppa. So you have it's dependencies at a .2 version while the Kate from the archive depends on .1 versions. (or something along those line)08:36
lordievadermokush: Perhaps poking around in #kubuntu-devel works, let's see if I get a reply ;)08:39
mokushlordievader: I see here there are newer packages in the main ppa, rather than the /next ppa? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next08:45
mokushif I would just remove the next ppa, wouldn't that fix it?08:45
lordievadermokush: What main ppa do you mean?08:46
valoriethe next ppa is what gives you plasma 508:47
valorieif you remove it, I don't know what will happen08:47
valorieunless you want to reinstall 14.10 without plasma 508:48
lordievaderIf you remove it you go back to Plasma 408:48
mokushin the link I pasted, some of the packages have a ` (Newer version available)` link. doesn't that refer to the main utopic packages?08:48
lordievaderThat refers to the source of those packages.08:49
valorielordievader: maybe.....08:52
valoriecould be a mess though08:52
lordievaderIt likely would be ;)08:53
luffarvantehey, i recently switched to kubuntu from arch and have been trying to install a few applications (factorio and tekkit launcher primarily). Im aware i could just download and add them manually but is there any avaliable repository with them in? In arch i just got them from the AUR09:23
lordievaderluffarvante: Usually we get things from the Ubuntu repo. However I don't seem to find packages for the software you mentioned. It might be that they are named differently.09:25
luffarvanteyeah, i have been looking around there and done some googling, but with no results09:26
luffarvanteif i understood it right i managed to add universe which seems to be ubuntus counterpart to arch's AUR but nothing there eigther09:27
lordievaderIf I understand AUR correctly then your statement is incorrect ;)09:28
denysoniqueluffarvante: the AUR of Ubuntu is called PPA09:28
luffarvantewell, not the exact same thing but universe is community maintained or did i get it all mixed up?09:28
luffarvanteah, okay09:29
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge09:43
benonsoftwareOops, sorry09:44
luffarvanteafter some fiddling around it sems there are no ppa with factorio and the tekkit and dwarf fortress ones wont add properly; i added them more or less according to their respective pages. I put the same version in them as the ppas already present in my sources, 'utopic', but i get a 404 error. Should this be one of the suggested versions (Trusty, Saucy or Precise for the minecraft ppa for instance) and if thats the case which of09:50
luffarvanteor is the ppa simply out of date and i have to wait?09:52
luffarvanteand thanks everyone for the help this far09:52
lordievaderluffarvante: It can very well be that the ppa doesn't yet have packages available for your version of (K)Ubuntu.09:55
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lifernuxhay algun chat de kubuntu en español12:04
hateball!es | lifernux12:04
ubottulifernux: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.12:04
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kavacolordievader: sorry, could not get back yesterday.12:24
lordievaderThat's allright.12:24
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:25
kavacohave a time?12:25
lordievaderkavaco: Let me check the backlog.12:26
lordievaderAh yes, my only idea got killed.12:27
kavacolordievader: http://picpaste.com/imagem1-TEp4HgcQ.png12:27
lordievaderNow ain't that lovely, what driver is loaded.12:28
kavacolordievader: see the Mixer. It is the same with the restart button, shutdown and logout12:30
kavacothe amd catalyst12:30
lordievaderYou sure about that? It looks like a graphical artifact.12:31
kavacothe fglrx_info output: OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.12:33
lordievaderHmm, I don't know what the issue can be.12:34
kavacolook: the menu on top: http://picpaste.com/menu-5PpsoYDG.png12:37
kavacois a graphical problem?12:38
lordievaderTo me it looks like it.12:38
kavacoAh, this problem just ocurred with the amd radeon12:39
kavacowith a intel hd, its ok12:39
kavacolordievader: on Xfce, the amd catalyst(radeon) its ok too12:40
kavacothe problem is on kde + amd catalyst12:40
kavacoxfce + amd catalyst, is ok!12:40
lordievaderWhat does Kwin use? OpenGL or XRender?12:40
kavacoi try opengl2 and opengl3, and xrender12:41
BluesKajall of them12:41
lordievaderkavaco: Set it to XRender and log out and in again.12:41
kavaconow, is xrender12:42
kavacoand Qt option: rasterize12:42
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lordievaderkavaco: Ok, log out and log in.12:42
kavacothe same problem12:48
lordievaderHmm, there was only a slim chance of it actually pulling anything off :P12:49
kavacolordievader:  yesterday, i try with the compiz, and it works, but some windows dont work very well12:52
lordievaderBlegh, Compiz.12:53
lordievaderkavaco: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blegh12:54
kavaco_i back13:01
emanuelyou spook italian?13:08
BluesKaj!it | emanuel13:12
ubottuemanuel: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:12
kavacolordievader: is a kwin problem?13:16
kavacothe neon/kf5 is down?13:45
hateballkavaco: I think Riddell said it is no longer around13:48
Riddellreplaced by kubuntu-ci13:51
RiddellBluesKaj: replaced by kubuntu-ci13:51
lordievaderkavaco: I have no idea where the problem lies.13:52
BluesKajok thanks Riddell, aamof I used the the kubuntu-ci and it's fine...plasma 5 seems ok so far13:53
BluesKajno separate wallpapers for each virtual desktop, but that's minor13:54
BluesKajerr separate=different :)13:54
* BluesKaj has more coffee13:58
kavacohateball: why?14:09
kavacolordievader: how to use the opensource drive on hybrid system?14:09
lordievaderkavaco: No idea, never had a hybrid in my hands before.14:10
hateballkavaco: what chipset is it14:11
hateball!info nvidia-prime14:11
ubottunvidia-prime (source: nvidia-prime): Tools to enable NVIDIA's Prime. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.7 (utopic), package size 11 kB, installed size 102 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)14:11
kavacohateball: amd radeon r7 m265(dell)14:16
hateballkavaco: I left AMD many moons ago, so I know nothing about it14:17
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto14:17
hateballThat should really be aliased14:17
kavacohateball: its ok on xfce, but on kde dont work very well, look:  http://picpaste.com/menu-5PpsoYDG.png14:18
kavacothe mixer: http://picpaste.com/imagem1-TEp4HgcQ.png14:19
kavacowhen i activate the intel HD, run ok... http://picpaste.com/imagem1-TEp4HgcQ.png14:19
kavacothis image is the mixer14:21
Sp00kykavaco: looks like the error is with qt, not your GPU14:22
kavacoSp00ky: what can i do? can you help me?14:22
kavacoSp00ky: on xfce, working normally with the amd radeon14:24
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BluesKajsoee, best to upgrade to 15.04 first if that's what you want, then add the kubuntu-ci ppa to the sources.list, then update/upgrade/dist-upgrade15:21
soeeBluesKaj: yeah, but as i said i need xorg-edgers ppa uable, do you think if i use utopic builds in vivid they will work (nvidia drivers)15:55
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yossarianukif only ubuntu just offered the latest version of the nvidia driver in one of their packages (would be a better desktop if they did.)16:03
yossarianuk xorg-edgers ppa also updates xorg and has broken systems in the past.16:03
Avihay_workAny one knows how to make vboxdrv work for 3d accelleration?16:05
WalexI use in 12.04 the X packages backported from 14.04/Trusty and they give me pretty good aacceleration with an AMD 7850 which is quite recent16:47
yossarianukAvihay_work: install guest additions ?16:51
yossarianukAvihay_work:  bare in mind I do not use vbox myself  (only KVM)16:53
skinuxIs it possible to set the Windows key to open the KMenu?17:25
lordievaderskinux: No, the Super key is a modifier key.17:26
skinuxCan any key or combination be set to do so?17:26
lordievaderskinux: A combination, sure.17:27
skinuxHow do I do it? Perhaps Alt+S?17:27
rberg_right click on the K17:28
rberg_and go to launcher settings17:28
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tootheso, i relaly like empathyk, but the version that comes with Ubuntu is pretty out of date. I tried adding the PPA, but I get 404 errors. What gives?18:21
soeetoothe: empathyk ?18:22
* toothe googles that18:23
toothehm...i don't see it...18:24
tootheim just annoyed how old empathy is18:24
tootheand my inability to upgrade it.18:24
soeetoothe: what is empathyk ?18:28
tootheI don't know, you typed it....I said empathy...18:28
tootheohhh, no i didn't18:28
toothepardon, the chat client empathy18:28
soeetoothe: we have kde-telepathy18:29
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* toothe tries.18:29
tootheits already at the latest version...18:31
toothewhta's the binary filename?18:32
soeetoothe: its in your Menu under INternet - Contact list or something18:33
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ubottuspv: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:03
soeehow can i check if triple_buffer is enabled in kwin crom cli ?19:36
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kristalI have 2 monitors and i want to run a separate instance of KDE on each screen, anyone know an easy-ish way of doing this?  they can be the same user, but preferably different users21:49
Chaserkristal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX (may help ?)22:17
kristalChaser: hmm yes that might22:18
MobilRoeyhello all22:43
MobilRoeyheyl... KDE didn't start up for me once I upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10.  I moved ~/.kde aside and ran startx, letting KDE re-start.  It did.  How can I diagnose what's wrong with my ~/.kde then?22:43
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floownIn with file is this section [mysqld] ?23:29
floownok I have found it in /etc/mysql/my.cnf23:30
mparilloskinux: I believe netrunner uses http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=15456923:48
surfs^hey all23:55
surfs^how is Kubuntu 14.10 Plasma 5 so far?23:56
surfs^is it stable enough for everyday use?23:56
surfs^for someone who isn't afraid of it..23:56

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