[00:03] <keithzg> Either way, I'd be interested to hear how thing behave once you've uninstalled the NVIDIA drivers.
[00:06] <toothe> I noticed that when I type in something into my KDE start button, I get random internet searches for pages I"ve never been to. Why is that? HOw do I disable that?
[00:06] <toothe> let me take that back, some of these are pages I visited months ago.
[00:08] <MobilRoey> ah
[00:08] <MobilRoey> hey toothe
[00:09] <toothe> Hiya!
[00:09] <MobilRoey> I actually have to get going, but there are others here who surely know
[00:09] <MobilRoey> :)
[00:13] <ussher_> I've just recently upgraded to 14.04.  lightdm was screwed up, so i purged it and installed kdm.  kdm doesn't start at boot, i need to login then do
[00:14] <ussher_> sudo kdm to get going.
[00:14] <ussher_> how do you make it start automatically?  Ive seen a few different howto's but none seam to line up with kubuntu.
[00:16] <valorie> !lightdm
[00:16] <valorie> pfff
[00:17] <MobilRoey> seriously
[00:17] <valorie> that's a bit messed up
[00:17] <MobilRoey> stuff screws up - EVERy.SINGLE.TIME I upgrade
[00:17] <ussher_> lightdm's resolution is all screwed up
[00:17] <valorie> do you have sddm installed?
[00:17] <MobilRoey> I groan when I think about upgrading
[00:17] <MobilRoey> because something invariably screws up no matter how stock-install I try and make it
[00:17] <valorie> MobilRoey: my upgrades are usually completely great
[00:17] <ussher_> i dont have ssdm installed
[00:17]  * MobilRoey fumes :P
[00:18] <MobilRoey> rightgt now I am on my laptop
[00:18] <MobilRoey> as my system is not responsive when I start x
[00:18] <valorie> me too, that's my only computer
[00:18] <valorie> :-)
[00:18] <MobilRoey> I wish I could have your luck, Valorie :)
[00:18] <valorie> ussher_: kdm hasn't been stock Kubuntu for a long time, so I guess asking in #kde would be more productive
[00:19] <valorie> it is old, and SDDM is the future for us
[00:19] <valorie> I guess the rest of Ubuntu will continue with LightDM
[00:19] <ussher_> for me i got sort of a login screen that worked with lightdm, but the box would flicker and there was no writing.  I lived with it for a few days, but it got annyoing this morning
[00:19] <valorie> but for various reasons we can't/won't do that
[00:20] <MobilRoey> anyway, Valorie, bbl! going to a candlelight vigil in front of the White House for the victims of this morning's massacre in Jerusalem
[00:20] <valorie> unsure how to help here; lightdm worked until I moved to SDDM when I upgraded to Plasma 5 in 14.10
[00:21] <ussher_> I was on 12.04 LTS so i guess kdm was stock back then, it looks familiar enough.
[00:21] <valorie> bye MobilRoey
[00:21] <valorie> !info lightdm
[00:22] <valorie> ussher_: afaik we've been using lightdm for a long time
[00:22] <valorie> at least since 12.04
[00:22] <valorie> however, if you have done upgrades for a long time, perhaps you didn't have it
[00:23] <ussher_> i've been on kubuntu since before that so maybe thats why.  Looking into SDDM (simple desktop display manager) now.  Not particually in love with kdm, but it works.  if sddm works too, thats fine.
[00:29] <valorie> ussher_: I wouldn't advise switching to SDDM just now
[00:30] <valorie> afaik it is waiting to be put into the archive
[00:30] <ussher_> ah.
[00:30] <valorie> I got it from ppa next
[00:30] <valorie> so wait a week
[00:30] <ussher_> ok, back to the first plan.
[00:30] <ussher_> get kdm to start at startup.  I'll ask in #kde
[00:30] <ussher_> thanks for all your help valorie
[00:30] <valorie> excellent
[00:30] <valorie> yw
[00:34] <toothe> I noticed that when I search for things in the KDE start menu, I get google hits for things I searched for months ago.
[00:34] <toothe> I thought it was only suposed to search for local files?
[00:34] <keithzg> ussher_: have you tried running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"?
[00:35] <ussher_> I did that to change to kdm during the install of it.  I can try again.
[00:36] <ussher_> yeah, its just the same option, "choose kdm" then OK.
[00:36] <throdon> has anyone used awesom wm with or without KDE/Kwin
[00:36] <ussher_> thanks for the idea keithzg
[00:37] <keithzg> Hmm, alright. ussher_, I'd try shutting down the KDM instance that you've started manually, then from a VT try "sudo service kdm start" and see what it does.
[00:37] <keithzg> That should start it the same way it's in theory *trying* to start it, so you might get some useful errror messages back.
[00:38] <ussher_> i'll give it a go.  I'll come back once i do.  Im on the pc its needed on here, so gone for a bit.
[00:38] <keithzg> Fair enough
[00:47] <ussher_> no love keithzg.  still the same.  But now im looking for "how to start a service at startup" instead, so that might be more fruitful.  Thanks for the idea.
[00:48] <keithzg> ussher_: Yeah, if all goes according to plan it should be started by the default installed upstart service for kdm. Clearly something is going wrong somewhere along that path.
[02:31] <ussher_> Got it sorted. in /etc/X11/default-display-manager was a link to 'kde-trinity's version of kdm.  I changed that to the actual version of kdm and now I have a login screen again.  Thanks keithzg, valoire for the help.
[02:59] <keithzg> ussher_: no problem, glad to hear you got it sorted!
[05:51] <valorie> hehe, kde-trinity
[05:51] <valorie> that's hilarious
[05:51] <Tm_T> ?
[08:09] <mokush> anybody else having issues with kate and dolphin freezing after about 10 mins of usage? 14.10 with plasma5?
[08:13] <valorie> mokush: I think it is plasma5 freezing
[08:13] <valorie> at least I've not had a problem with the actual applications freezing
[08:13] <mokush> valorie: it's just the apps. these two. I can force close them, then open them again. I belive it's caused by kio_file, since they both seem to be using it
[08:14] <valorie> could be
[08:14] <valorie> please file a bug
[08:14] <valorie> easiest way is `ubuntu-bug kate` for instance
[08:14] <valorie> in the cli
[08:14] <mokush> valorie: thanks, will do
[08:14] <valorie> thank you
[08:18] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:23] <mokush> valorie: when trying `ubuntu-bug kate` I'm getting a `This is not an official Ubuntu package.` error. Is it because I'm using the backports ppa?
[08:26] <valorie> ah, you are on next
[08:26] <valorie> sorry
[08:26] <valorie> some of that software is not in the archives yet
[08:26] <valorie> :(
[08:26] <lordievader> The package 'kate' exists though in the archives.
[08:27] <lordievader> But it probably checks the source of the installed package.
[08:27] <valorie> right
[08:28] <valorie> anyway, please check for bugreports here, mokush
[08:28] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_
[08:28] <valorie> subscriber=&field.tag=plasma5&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on
[08:28] <valorie> omg
[08:28] <valorie> let me shorten that
[08:28] <lordievader> Err, the Kubuntu next doesn't have a Kate package?
[08:28] <mokush> this is even weirder. so, I uninstalled it, but not I can't reinstall it because of the `unmet dependencies` issue.
[08:29] <valorie> http://goo.gl/UIjz8s
[08:29] <lordievader> mokush: What is the output of 'apt-cache policy kate'?
[08:30] <mokush> lordievader: http://paste.kde.org/pppnhvijh
[08:30] <lordievader> !info kate
[08:30] <lordievader> That is the one from the archives.
[08:31] <mokush> lordievader: this is what I'm getting when trying to reinstall it: http://paste.kde.org/pvkgggnr5
[08:32] <lordievader> Hehe, not very surprising.
[08:32] <lordievader> Wasn't the Kubuntu Next ppa EOL?
[08:32] <mokush> lordievader: is there any way I can work around it?
[08:33] <valorie> no, that is neon that is gone
[08:33] <lordievader> Hmm, because this is a difficult pickle.
[08:33] <lordievader> The packages from the ppa prevent the installation of kate, as that version is older...
[08:34] <valorie> mokush: does `sudo apt install -f` help?
[08:34] <mokush> valorie: nope, same thing.
[08:35] <valorie> :(
[08:35] <mokush> lordievader: well, this sucks. so the version from the next ppa is older?
[08:36] <mokush> I see that that I have two packages installed now `katepart` and `ktexteditor-katepart`. the `katepart` one seems to have no origin
[08:36] <lordievader> mokush: No the problem is that Kate is not provided in the Kubuntu Next ppa. So you have it's dependencies at a .2 version while the Kate from the archive depends on .1 versions. (or something along those line)
[08:39] <lordievader> mokush: Perhaps poking around in #kubuntu-devel works, let's see if I get a reply ;)
[08:45] <mokush> lordievader: I see here there are newer packages in the main ppa, rather than the /next ppa? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next
[08:45] <mokush> if I would just remove the next ppa, wouldn't that fix it?
[08:46] <lordievader> mokush: What main ppa do you mean?
[08:47] <valorie> the next ppa is what gives you plasma 5
[08:47] <valorie> if you remove it, I don't know what will happen
[08:48] <valorie> unless you want to reinstall 14.10 without plasma 5
[08:48] <lordievader> If you remove it you go back to Plasma 4
[08:48] <mokush> in the link I pasted, some of the packages have a ` (Newer version available)` link. doesn't that refer to the main utopic packages?
[08:49] <lordievader> That refers to the source of those packages.
[08:52] <valorie> lordievader: maybe.....
[08:52] <valorie> could be a mess though
[08:53] <lordievader> It likely would be ;)
[09:23] <luffarvante> hey, i recently switched to kubuntu from arch and have been trying to install a few applications (factorio and tekkit launcher primarily). Im aware i could just download and add them manually but is there any avaliable repository with them in? In arch i just got them from the AUR
[09:25] <lordievader> luffarvante: Usually we get things from the Ubuntu repo. However I don't seem to find packages for the software you mentioned. It might be that they are named differently.
[09:26] <luffarvante> yeah, i have been looking around there and done some googling, but with no results
[09:27] <luffarvante> if i understood it right i managed to add universe which seems to be ubuntus counterpart to arch's AUR but nothing there eigther
[09:28] <lordievader> If I understand AUR correctly then your statement is incorrect ;)
[09:28] <denysonique> luffarvante: the AUR of Ubuntu is called PPA
[09:28] <luffarvante> well, not the exact same thing but universe is community maintained or did i get it all mixed up?
[09:29] <luffarvante> ah, okay
[09:43] <hateball> !ppa
[09:44] <benonsoftware> !j
[09:44] <benonsoftware> Oops, sorry
[09:50] <luffarvante> after some fiddling around it sems there are no ppa with factorio and the tekkit and dwarf fortress ones wont add properly; i added them more or less according to their respective pages. I put the same version in them as the ppas already present in my sources, 'utopic', but i get a 404 error. Should this be one of the suggested versions (Trusty, Saucy or Precise for the minecraft ppa for instance) and if thats the case which of
[09:50] <luffarvante> them?
[09:52] <luffarvante> or is the ppa simply out of date and i have to wait?
[09:52] <luffarvante> and thanks everyone for the help this far
[09:55] <lordievader> luffarvante: It can very well be that the ppa doesn't yet have packages available for your version of (K)Ubuntu.
[12:03] <lifernux> hola
[12:04] <lifernux> hay algun chat de kubuntu en español
[12:04] <lifernux> ?
[12:04] <hateball> !es | lifernux
[12:21] <kavaco> hi
[12:21] <lordievader> o/
[12:22] <keyonce04> o/
[12:24] <kavaco> lordievader: sorry, could not get back yesterday.
[12:24] <lordievader> That's allright.
[12:25] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:25] <kavaco> have a time?
[12:26] <lordievader> kavaco: Let me check the backlog.
[12:27] <lordievader> Ah yes, my only idea got killed.
[12:27] <kavaco> lordievader: http://picpaste.com/imagem1-TEp4HgcQ.png
[12:27] <kavaco> look
[12:28] <lordievader> Now ain't that lovely, what driver is loaded.
[12:30] <kavaco> lordievader: see the Mixer. It is the same with the restart button, shutdown and logout
[12:30] <kavaco> the amd catalyst
[12:30] <kavaco> driver*
[12:31] <lordievader> You sure about that? It looks like a graphical artifact.
[12:33] <kavaco> the fglrx_info output: OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[12:34] <lordievader> Hmm, I don't know what the issue can be.
[12:34] <kavaco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9095032/
[12:37] <kavaco> look: the menu on top: http://picpaste.com/menu-5PpsoYDG.png
[12:38] <kavaco> is a graphical problem?
[12:38] <lordievader> To me it looks like it.
[12:39] <kavaco> Ah, this problem just ocurred with the amd radeon
[12:39] <kavaco> with a intel hd, its ok
[12:40] <kavaco> lordievader: on Xfce, the amd catalyst(radeon) its ok too
[12:40] <kavaco> the problem is on kde + amd catalyst
[12:40] <kavaco> xfce + amd catalyst, is ok!
[12:40] <lordievader> What does Kwin use? OpenGL or XRender?
[12:41] <kavaco> i try opengl2 and opengl3, and xrender
[12:41] <BluesKaj> all of them
[12:41] <lordievader> kavaco: Set it to XRender and log out and in again.
[12:42] <kavaco> now, is xrender
[12:42] <kavaco> and Qt option: rasterize
[12:42] <lordievader> kavaco: Ok, log out and log in.
[12:43] <kavaco> ok
[12:48] <kavaco> the same problem
[12:48] <kavaco> D:
[12:49] <lordievader> Hmm, there was only a slim chance of it actually pulling anything off :P
[12:52] <kavaco> lordievader:  yesterday, i try with the compiz, and it works, but some windows dont work very well
[12:53] <lordievader> Blegh, Compiz.
[12:53] <kavaco> blegh?
[12:54] <lordievader> kavaco: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blegh
[13:01] <kavaco_> ...
[13:01] <kavaco_> i back
[13:06] <emanuel> hi
[13:06] <keyonce04> hi
[13:08] <emanuel> you spook italian?
[13:09] <emanuel> *spooke
[13:12] <BluesKaj> !it | emanuel
[13:16] <kavaco> lordievader: is a kwin problem?
[13:45] <kavaco> the neon/kf5 is down?
[13:48] <hateball> kavaco: I think Riddell said it is no longer around
[13:51] <Riddell> replaced by kubuntu-ci
[13:51] <Riddell> BluesKaj: replaced by kubuntu-ci
[13:52] <lordievader> kavaco: I have no idea where the problem lies.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> ok thanks Riddell, aamof I used the the kubuntu-ci and it's fine...plasma 5 seems ok so far
[13:53] <Riddell> yay
[13:54] <BluesKaj> no separate wallpapers for each virtual desktop, but that's minor
[13:54] <BluesKaj> err separate=different :)
[13:58]  * BluesKaj has more coffee
[14:09] <kavaco> hateball: why?
[14:09] <kavaco> lordievader: how to use the opensource drive on hybrid system?
[14:10] <lordievader> kavaco: No idea, never had a hybrid in my hands before.
[14:11] <hateball> kavaco: what chipset is it
[14:11] <hateball> !prime
[14:11] <hateball> :\
[14:11] <hateball> !info nvidia-prime
[14:16] <kavaco> hateball: amd radeon r7 m265(dell)
[14:17] <hateball> kavaco: I left AMD many moons ago, so I know nothing about it
[14:17] <hateball> !amd
[14:17] <hateball> !ati
[14:17] <hateball> That should really be aliased
[14:18] <kavaco> hateball: its ok on xfce, but on kde dont work very well, look:  http://picpaste.com/menu-5PpsoYDG.png
[14:19] <kavaco> the mixer: http://picpaste.com/imagem1-TEp4HgcQ.png
[14:19] <kavaco> when i activate the intel HD, run ok... http://picpaste.com/imagem1-TEp4HgcQ.png
[14:21] <kavaco> this image is the mixer
[14:22] <Sp00ky> kavaco: looks like the error is with qt, not your GPU
[14:22] <kavaco> Sp00ky: what can i do? can you help me?
[14:24] <kavaco> Sp00ky: on xfce, working normally with the amd radeon
[15:21] <BluesKaj> soee, best to upgrade to 15.04 first if that's what you want, then add the kubuntu-ci ppa to the sources.list, then update/upgrade/dist-upgrade
[15:55] <soee> BluesKaj: yeah, but as i said i need xorg-edgers ppa uable, do you think if i use utopic builds in vivid they will work (nvidia drivers)
[16:03] <yossarianuk> if only ubuntu just offered the latest version of the nvidia driver in one of their packages (would be a better desktop if they did.)
[16:03] <yossarianuk>  xorg-edgers ppa also updates xorg and has broken systems in the past.
[16:05] <Avihay_work> Any one knows how to make vboxdrv work for 3d accelleration?
[16:47] <Walex> I use in 12.04 the X packages backported from 14.04/Trusty and they give me pretty good aacceleration with an AMD 7850 which is quite recent
[16:51] <yossarianuk> Avihay_work: install guest additions ?
[16:53] <yossarianuk> Avihay_work:  bare in mind I do not use vbox myself  (only KVM)
[17:25] <skinux> Is it possible to set the Windows key to open the KMenu?
[17:26] <lordievader> skinux: No, the Super key is a modifier key.
[17:26] <skinux> Can any key or combination be set to do so?
[17:27] <lordievader> skinux: A combination, sure.
[17:27] <skinux> How do I do it? Perhaps Alt+S?
[17:28] <rberg_> right click on the K
[17:28] <rberg_> and go to launcher settings
[17:39] <skinux> Thanks
[17:43] <DT__> afternoon
[18:21] <toothe> so, i relaly like empathyk, but the version that comes with Ubuntu is pretty out of date. I tried adding the PPA, but I get 404 errors. What gives?
[18:22] <soee> toothe: empathyk ?
[18:23]  * toothe googles that
[18:24] <toothe> hm...i don't see it...
[18:24] <toothe> im just annoyed how old empathy is
[18:24] <toothe> and my inability to upgrade it.
[18:28] <soee> toothe: what is empathyk ?
[18:28] <toothe> I don't know, you typed it....I said empathy...
[18:28] <toothe> ohhh, no i didn't
[18:28] <toothe> pardon, the chat client empathy
[18:29] <soee> toothe: we have kde-telepathy
[18:29]  * toothe tries.
[18:31] <toothe> its already at the latest version...
[18:32] <toothe> whta's the binary filename?
[18:33] <soee> toothe: its in your Menu under INternet - Contact list or something
[18:33] <soee> ktp-contactlist
[19:03] <spv> !list
[19:36] <soee> how can i check if triple_buffer is enabled in kwin crom cli ?
[21:49] <kristal> I have 2 monitors and i want to run a separate instance of KDE on each screen, anyone know an easy-ish way of doing this?  they can be the same user, but preferably different users
[22:17] <Chaser> kristal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX (may help ?)
[22:18] <kristal> Chaser: hmm yes that might
[22:43] <MobilRoey> hello all
[22:43] <MobilRoey> heyl... KDE didn't start up for me once I upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10.  I moved ~/.kde aside and ran startx, letting KDE re-start.  It did.  How can I diagnose what's wrong with my ~/.kde then?
[23:28] <floown> hello
[23:29] <floown> In with file is this section [mysqld] ?
[23:30] <floown> ok I have found it in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[23:48] <mparillo> skinux: I believe netrunner uses http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=154569
[23:55] <surfs^> hey all
[23:56] <surfs^> how is Kubuntu 14.10 Plasma 5 so far?
[23:56] <surfs^> is it stable enough for everyday use?
[23:56] <surfs^> for someone who isn't afraid of it..