[00:01] <Hertz> Intel PM965/GM965 graphics
[00:01] <Hertz> should do 100 hz
[00:01] <Hertz> 60 atm
[00:03] <Hertz> http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd008989
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[02:03] <anjo-aladiah> wxl: last time we talk i changed RALT to LALT, was this the step to put my system as it were prior to intervention ?
[02:03] <anjo-aladiah> Because i already found a solution to my problem
[02:04] <anjo-aladiah> Now i wish to put thing as it were before. CAn you help please ?
[02:29] <anjo-aladiah> wxl: are you there ?
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[04:46] <anjo-aladiah> wxl: are you there ?
[05:31] <wxl> anjo-aladiah: just edit the file and remove the line. problem solved.
[06:33] <GBeats> Hi, im new to lubuntu and linux and i kinda messed up my installation a little, but its working fine so far..... but i have grub and windows boot both working, grub boots first then gives me an option for the windows boot menu, should i remove one and if so which one?
[06:34] <ianorlin> and you can't get to lubuntu?
[06:40] <GBeats> lubuntu is working fine... its just weird to go through 2 seperate boot menus that display more or less the same thing
[06:43] <ianorlin> oh so you select windows in grub and it selects the windows boot menu
[06:44] <GBeats> yes.. is that normal?
[06:44] <ianorlin> thing is I don't know the windows side of the bootloader well it seems like grub is doing its job
[06:44] <ianorlin> I think this might be on windows side
[06:47] <GBeats> what happened is i messed up the installation and its a long story im sure what really happened, it involved wubi, swapping some files etc, but i managed to install lubuntu to a partition that way, but it wouldnt boot up after, i just got a grub prompt, so i followed the manual process of locating the linux files init files etc, and at the end it said to make these setting permanant i should install grub from within lubuntu so i did. i havent actually tried l
[06:48] <ianorlin> if you mess something up trying to fix it you could make it not boot
[06:49] <GBeats> yes, im happy its working for now, im just waiting for my partner to load up windows and see grub and throw a fit 'OMG you broke windows again...." :D
[09:50] <Daffi> Hi, I use lubuntu on my macbook pro (10,2) at home with refind. Last weekend I updated osx. Now my bootmanager is broken (I got many lines, without an error, and haltet in initramfs).  Can anybody help me?
[14:47] <wxl> !info lubuntu-software-center
[14:47] <ubottu> lubuntu-software-center (source: lubuntu-software-center): Utility for browsing, installing, removing applications on Lubuntu. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.8-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 103 kB, installed size 994 kB
[14:50] <wxl> !info update-manager
[14:50] <ubottu> update-manager (source: update-manager): GNOME application that manages apt updates. In component main, is optional. Version 1:14.10.6 (utopic), package size 531 kB, installed size 1060 kB
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[15:34] <Guest57705> i need to know why my apt-get update adds Ign cdrom://Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386 (20140722.2) trusty/universe Translation-en_US even my /etc/apt/sources.list is not there while creating
[15:34] <Guest57705> the livecd
[15:35] <Guest57705> in my sources.list there is no entry of cdrom
[15:35] <Guest57705> where would the cdrom part it would be taking
[15:40] <phillw> Guest57705: that's why I use alternate image... it *has* to read the cd :)
[15:42] <phillw> as soon as it has updated the internet connection, kill the internet connection (either turn WiFi off, or pull the ethernet cable)
[15:42] <Guest57705> i am creating livecd
[15:42] <Guest57705> and after i burn iso when i run the iso in live mode
[15:42] <Guest57705> when apt-get update is run
[15:42] <Guest57705> it add Ign:cdrom line
[15:43] <Guest57705> where does it takes from
[15:50] <Guest57705> how can i find where in my livecd environment cdrom line would have added which gets triggered when i run the iso and run apt-get update
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[17:14] <mutantspew> Greetings!
[17:16] <mutantspew> when a app uses xfce4-notify to send a toast there are lines running through it, which makes it a bit hard to read. any way to fix this? changing the theme doesn't work. the theme remains the same no mater what I change it to.
[17:40] <ianorlin> mutantspew: that is a known bug
[17:41] <ianorlin> there is one workaround is to open customize look and feel and choose something other than lubuntu-default or lubuntu dark panel works
[17:55] <mutantspew> okay I'll try it
[17:55] <mutantspew> thanks
[18:47] <wxl> anyone on 14.10 amd64?
[18:55] <teward> wxl: i've got an Lubuntu 14.10 amd64 VM, if that works.
[18:55] <teward> :P
[18:55] <wxl> teward: works. check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1394241 and see if you can confirm or deny
[18:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1394241 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update Manager quietly crashes" [Undecided,New]
[18:55] <teward> wxl: oooop looks like the VM has a kernel panic, give me a few to nuke and rebuild?
[18:56] <wxl> k
[18:56] <wxl> oh hey i have a vm neat
[18:57] <wxl> i forgot about that :)
[18:57] <wxl> nevermind, i'll take care of this hehehe
[18:59] <teward> wxl: still helps to have a tester :)
[18:59] <wxl> sure sure
[19:00] <teward> besides i need a working 14.10 VM anyways :P
[19:00] <wxl> so far it looks like i'll be invalidating this one
[19:01] <teward> heh
[19:01] <teward> eeesh looks like the ISO doesn't want to install - weirdness all around o.o
[19:01] <teward> oh well, guess I can't test from here
[19:01] <wxl> what's the md5 say?
[19:02] <teward> I/O error
[19:02] <teward> :P
[19:02] <teward> i think the file is broken
[19:02] <teward> or where it is on the drive
[19:02] <wxl> prolly
[19:02]  * teward runs a drivetest
[19:02] <wxl> or your virtual drive
[19:02] <teward> that's more likely actually
[19:02] <teward> since it was the VM that triggered that error
[19:02] <wxl> oh i am on i386 though
[19:02] <wxl> oops
[19:02] <wxl> forgot about that :)
[19:04] <teward> wxl: heheheh.
[19:04] <teward> if i reboot to Windows i have an env i can use to test >.>
[19:04] <teward> VMware VM there should still be functioning...
[19:04] <teward> >.>
[19:06] <teward> wxl: the iso hash is 60e666e9459ec52e56aa6cbd94d6895e - matches what's on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for -desktop-amd64
[19:07] <teward> there we go
[19:07] <teward> aaand not so much - i get the desktop screen and then aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb cccccccccccccccccc multicolor garbage
[19:07] <teward> maybe it's a VBox issue
[19:08] <teward> ooo vbox crash
[19:15] <teward> wxl: i'll still test, but i have to try and get vbox working, or install VMware again... (I have a license for that)
[19:29] <phillw> teward: the bug 1394241  can be stopped, a reinstall of update manager has sorted it.
[19:29] <ubottu> bug 1394241 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update Manager quietly crashes" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1394241
[19:30] <teward> ack
[19:30] <teward> phillw: still testing - just to see if it's persistent and if reinstall is just the workaround
[19:30] <teward> never hurts to be thorough in testing :)
[19:31] <teward> and wheeee, apparently it's a VBox issue - VMware works fine >.>
[19:32] <phillw> my update manager is running on hardware, not switched over to 15.04 just yet :)
[19:32] <wxl> kvm ftw teward
[19:33] <teward> wxl: E:TriedAndDidn'tWork
[19:33] <teward> doesn't matter to me, though - i have a VMware ESXi server here for my VMs at home here...
[19:33] <wxl> teward: i smell pebkac. :)
[19:33] <teward> VMware workstation provides a nice interface, and I have a license for both so meh
[19:34] <teward> wxl: or E:Lazy
[19:34] <wxl> hahahah
[19:35] <wxl> hm maybe i'll do some triage today
[19:35] <wxl> can't i convince you to help me with triage for lubuntu teward??
[19:35] <teward> wxl: the only reason i'm not using my Lubuntu VM on my ESXi box is because it's in a "NoOutsideAccess VLAN"... then I'd be testing there :P
[19:35] <teward> wxl: you could try, i'm working on something for a class i have in 1.5 hours though
[19:35] <teward> wxl: i also need to finish the 14.10 VM building :P
[19:36] <wxl> teward: i mean not now but in general
[19:36] <teward> wxl: my primary focus is on the nginx package, after all i'm applying for PPU rights so that's my primary focus as of now
[19:36] <wxl> oh yeah that's right
[19:36] <teward> but i have no issue helping out where i can
[19:36] <wxl> i forgot about all that :)
[19:36] <teward> you just have to throw the bugs my way - my primary OS is Ubuntu 14.04 LTS after all
[19:37] <teward> so if it needs actual hardware installs for replication can't help ya
[19:37] <wxl> well you have lubuntu vms
[19:37] <wxl> if you understand lubuntu well enough, i.e. its components and such, that's sufficient
[19:37] <teward> TBH I understand server components more, 99% of what I do is CLI xD
[19:38] <wxl> right right
[19:38] <teward> I have issues with GUIs apparently - they're just so i can organize my windows xD
[19:38] <wxl> nevermind i'll find someone eventually :)
[19:38] <teward> wxl: bug me if you need any additional help with setting Triaged and stuff though... like if there's an Lubuntu equivalent of a bug triaging day :)
[19:38] <teward> i never have enough crap to do
[19:42] <teward> lol someone's arguing in the wine channels whether it's legal or not for companies that produce software to be exclusive to specific OSes and not cater to the OSS community xD
[19:42] <teward> sorry, offtopic, i'll be silent
[20:07] <teward> phillw: you might set "Incomplete" instead of "Invalid"
[20:08] <teward> but you're right that bug can't be reproduced, and I even tried
[20:09] <phillw> teward: after the re-install, it works fine. must have been a zero day bug.
[20:09] <phillw> teward: no one has mentioned it, so I'll remove any noise on it.
[20:10] <teward> phillw: ack, lemme know if there's any issues with it in the future, i have a fully updated 14.10 amd64 vm.
[20:11] <phillw> teward: if any one mentions an issue, I know the bug is there... but this far into release cycle, I'm guessing it is a simple glitch.
[20:11] <teward> mhm
[20:11] <teward> ooh that reminds me i need a 15.04 environment
[20:11] <phillw> teward: I need two!
[20:12] <teward> there's no images yet are there
[20:13] <phillw> teward: yeah, they hide at such places as https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=17220.0
[20:15] <phillw> Julien is mirroring onto my iso machine, not too sure how up to date it is. http://phillw.net/isos/lxqt/ ooh, quite recent!
[20:17] <teward> what no amd64 >.>
[20:17]  * teward boos phillw
[20:17] <teward> :P
[20:18] <phillw> teward: concentrate on 32bit... exapand to 64 if wanted.
[20:19] <teward> meh, i should make i386 VMs too... *shrugs*
[20:19] <phillw> teward: gilir has his own login for the area, so he adds as he wants.
[20:19] <teward> mhm
[20:23] <phillw> teward: same as OBI, Nio just adds new stuff, updates the wiki and it goes live. This is all a part of my having the new server running as a cloud server.
[20:23] <teward> it'd help if i had nice wifi... alas i'm stuck with campus wifi
[20:23] <teward> stupid comcast... >.>
[20:23] <teward> give me level 3 fiber any day
[20:23] <teward> would rather have fiber over comcast coax
[20:32] <teward> I think systemd is a problem... it keeps generating errors about being unable to start user service...
[20:37] <teward> phillw: wxl: Is there a -dev channel for lubuntu, or no?  or a +1 channel, for 15.04 and such
[20:39] <phillw> teward: no, there is a game called catch gilir on line, but other stuff is done via brainstorming
[20:39] <teward> phillw: what about complaining about systemd :P
[20:39] <teward> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9103528 is why i ask :P
[20:39] <teward> (might be a bit larger an issue than just lubuntu)
[20:40] <phillw> teward: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-brainstorming
[20:42] <phillw> teward: as I'm no longer a TL for any part of lubuntu best person to ask will be wxl He's tasked with such tasks
[20:43] <teward> wxl: oyi, wake up before systemd explodes the world :p
[20:43] <teward> true, wxl is the goto for my complaining about issues nowadays
[20:43] <teward> :)
[20:52] <wxl> i really think we should have a like lubuntu-geek channel for the people that don't want to hear about support (#lubuntu) or hear about random chatter (#lubuntu-offtopic)
[20:53] <wxl> really though most of the major discussion happens on the mailing list teward. that's where our major code contributors pay attention.
[20:53] <wxl> teward: then there's that one channel that's named after a previous team leader of lubuntu
[20:54] <wxl> *ahem*
[20:54] <teward> lol
[20:55] <wxl> seriously we have more lubuntu people there than anywhere else XD
[20:57] <teward> heh
[20:57] <teward> well it looks like the issue i'm seeing is not localized to Lubuntu
[20:57] <teward> so maybe it's part of core
[20:57] <wxl> aroo
[22:16] <Klubuntiks> Is it more software in 14.10 then 14.04 LTS ?
[22:16] <ianorlin> not really much at all
[22:17] <ianorlin> I think maybe one small thing for changing screen brightness was added in 14.10 but it is basically all the same
[22:18] <ianorlin> !info xbacklight
[22:18] <ubottu> xbacklight (source: xbacklight): simple utility to set the backlight level. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-1 (utopic), package size 7 kB, installed size 49 kB
[22:20] <ianorlin> installed size of 49 kB so it doesn't really matter if you are short on space and it is not really something that is a killer app
[22:22] <ianorlin> I think btrfs filesystem tools were added as well
[22:23] <Klubuntiks> I have enough space.. 160GB
[22:24] <ianorlin> It is basically the same but if you do go 14.04 for longer support get 14.04.1 as one big wifi bug got fixed as 14.10 is a new updated version that mainly had bug fixes
[22:25] <ianorlin> although there are newer things you can install in repos in 14.10 but you don't get as long support
[22:25] <Klubuntiks> What bug is in that wifi ?
[22:25] <Klubuntiks> Is it fixed in the updates ?
[22:25] <ianorlin> yes
[22:25] <ianorlin> That is why I said to grab 14.04.1 as that has that update already
[22:26] <Klubuntiks> I have 2 netbooks. allready use 14.04.1.
[22:27] <Klubuntiks> I remember 14.04 missing wifi icon.
[22:27] <ianorlin> yeah that is what I was talking about
[22:27] <Klubuntiks> It works good no so i am not sure i will reinstall on this computer.
[22:28] <ianorlin> they are not really that different at all
[22:34] <Klubuntiks> I have 1GB ram and 160GB HD shud i use another linux ? Will Lubuntu use all the capacity ?
[22:35] <wxl> Klubuntiks: that should work fine. you have WAY more than enough HD. i've run lubuntu on as little as 256mb ram, so 1gb will be fine.
[22:40] <ianorlin> yeah 1GB will be fine just be warned opening a lot of tabs in firefox will use lots of ram
[22:42] <Klubuntiks> I think 1GB can let me open very many windows.
[22:42] <ianorlin> yes it can
[22:45] <phillw> Klubuntiks: lubuntu will think all it Christmas and Birthday presents have arrived at once...
[22:46] <wxl> Klubuntiks: no need to pm. just install it. lubuntu is definitely better for resource usage than xubuntu.
[22:47] <Klubuntiks> I allready use lubuntu on a netbook with 512MB and 8GB HD. it works fine.
[22:54] <Klubuntiks> It is possible to share networks and folders between Lubuntu and Windows ?
[22:54] <ianorlin> yes with samba but I am not expirenced with that
[23:31] <jkhl> I just replaced my graphics card, trying to boot, I get cryptsetup: evms_activate is not available
[23:37] <ianorlin> I would like some more info to help solve your problem what is the old and new graphics card and where you use full disk encryption?
[23:43] <jkhl> i think its a loose SATA connection to my HD
[23:43] <jkhl> new gfx card is a GeForce 210
[23:43] <jkhl> old gfx card is a GeFroce 6200SE
[23:43] <jkhl> old gfx card is a GeForce 6200SE*
[23:44] <jkhl> i use full disk encryption
[23:44] <jkhl> not sure what you mean by where
[23:45] <jkhl> which partition?
[23:45] <jkhl> (I can't remember, I think I just checked the option to do an encrypted hard drive installation of lubuntu)
[23:46] <jkhl> also SATA connection seems ok now, no difference
[23:46] <jkhl> there is a solution here :
[23:47] <jkhl> http://blog.leenix.co.uk/2012/07/evmsactivate-is-not-available-on-boot.html
[23:47] <jkhl> not sure if i should try it, i wouldn't know what i was doing
[23:53] <jkhl> also there is errors=remount-ro in /etc/fstab
[23:54] <jkhl> oh that's apparently not an error anyway
[23:55] <jkhl> still stuck