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joern_hi everyone, hi amjjawad!11:57
amjjawadHello joern_11:58
amjjawadHi everyone, I am here and waiting the start :)11:58
eliaspsHello :)12:01
Destinehi12:01
amjjawadHello eliasps :)12:01
rafaellaguna_amjjawad ;)12:02
amjjawadHello rafaellaguna_ :D12:02
eliaspsDestine, amjjawad, rafaellaguna :)12:02
amjjawadI guess I just have to wait until someone starts the meeting, correct?!12:05
jaredamjjawad: we need quorum to start12:05
jared!rmb12:05
ubottucjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat,  hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg,  Pendulum, PabloRubienes, freeflying, jared, s-fox, amachu, and chilicuil. Meeting time.12:05
amjjawadOkay, thanks jared :)12:05
popeyhmm12:08
popeyI'm not listed there (still)12:08
popeynor is rick12:08
amjjawadHello popey :)12:09
jaredSorry popey, I guess we could update that and it would no doubt help12:09
popeyubottu: rmb is cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat,  hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg,  Pendulum, PabloRubienes, freeflying, jared, s-fox, amachu, chilicuil, rickspencer3 and popey. Meeting time.12:09
ubottuBut rmb already means something else!12:09
rickspencer3o/12:09
popeyubottu: no rmb is cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat,  hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg,  Pendulum, PabloRubienes, freeflying, jared, s-fox, amachu, chilicuil, rickspencer3 and popey. Meeting time.12:09
ubottuI'll remember that popey12:09
popey!rmb12:10
ubotturmb is cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat,  hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg,  Pendulum, PabloRubienes, freeflying, jared, s-fox, amachu, chilicuil, rickspencer3 and popey. Meeting time.12:10
popey\o/12:10
Destine~12:10
jared#startmeeting 2200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board12:13
meetingologyMeeting started Wed Nov 19 12:13:15 2014 UTC.  The chair is jared. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.12:13
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jaredHello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the 2200 UTC meeting for November 19, 2014.12:13
popeyʘ‿ಠ12:13
amjjawadHi everyone :)12:13
popeyIt's rather bright outside for 22:00 UTC ☻12:13
jaredThe wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards12:13
amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad12:14
jaredWhen the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers amounts to at least +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)12:14
jared#votesrequired 412:14
meetingologyvotes now need 4 to be passed12:14
jared#voters Destine popey rickspencer312:14
meetingologyCurrent voters: Destine popey rickspencer312:14
jared#topic amjjawad's application for membership12:15
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jaredamjjawad: please introduce yourself to the board and we'll review your wiki12:15
popeyhi amjjawad12:15
amjjawadHi everyone :)12:15
amjjawadamjjawad is my user name. My name is Ali12:15
amjjawadGlad to be here :)12:16
popeyamjjawad: hiya, so there's a lot of stuff listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad12:17
popeyamjjawad: What do you consider to be your primary focus?12:18
amjjawadpopey, hello and yes indeed. That for 4 years :)12:18
amjjawadUbuntu GNOME first, StartUbuntu second :) and Ubuntu Quality third12:18
popeyYou certainly have a lot of testimonials!12:19
amjjawadpopey, I've been part of several project for 4 years12:19
popeyWhat do you have planned for Ubuntu GNOME for the coming months?12:19
amjjawadUbuntu Forums, Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Ubuntu Quality, etc12:19
amjjawadI am the community manager/leader so I focus on building a strong community while Tim (the head dev) focus on the technical side12:20
amjjawadEvery cycle, I introduce new changes to the project12:20
amjjawadshall I share some?12:20
amjjawadUbuntu GNOME has many good stuff that no other community has :)12:21
amjjawadI have started last cycle a new sub-team for Human Resources :)12:21
amjjawadsome (just some) of what I have done recently: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/Roles12:21
amjjawadand: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/CycleAssessment/UtopicUnicorn12:22
popeyThat's a lot of roles to fill!12:22
amjjawadBy the way, it is me who created all this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/WikiMap12:22
amjjawadall these pages I mean12:22
amjjawadwell, this is me :) my ambition has no limits :)12:22
popeyRight, but finding people to contribute to all of that must be difficult?12:23
amjjawadI never give up. It is very hard indeed but I enjoy it a lot12:23
amjjawadI have recruited many people to Lubuntu for 2 years12:23
amjjawadI played a major part within Lubuntu in many areas12:24
amjjawadwhat I have achieved in Lubuntu in 2 years, I have done it with Ubuntu GNOME in 6 months12:24
popeyWhat do you find most rewarding in Ubuntu?12:24
amjjawadwith Lubuntu, things where there but I improved them12:24
amjjawadwith Ubuntu GNOME, had to start from scratch12:24
amjjawadthe sub-teams here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams it is me who created that12:25
amjjawadit is the power of we12:25
amjjawadall of us are smarter than anyone of us12:25
amjjawadI do adore Ubuntu's Philosophy12:25
amjjawadThis Philosophy will never fail :)12:26
popeyOk, I don't have any other questions. Anyone else?>12:26
rickspencer3I don't12:27
jaredJust reading of a few links still, sorry, shouldn't be long12:30
amjjawadno worries, take your time :)12:30
jaredamjjawad: okay it seems everyone is ready12:31
jared#vote amjjawad for Ubuntu Membership12:31
meetingologyPlease vote on: amjjawad for Ubuntu Membership12:31
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)12:31
rickspencer3+112:31
meetingology+1 received from rickspencer312:31
popey+112:31
meetingology+1 received from popey12:31
Destine+112:31
meetingology+1 received from Destine12:31
jared+112:32
jared#voters Destine popey rickspencer3 jared12:32
meetingologyCurrent voters: Destine jared popey rickspencer312:32
jared+112:32
meetingology+1 received from jared12:32
popeyCongratulations amjjawad !12:32
jared#endvote12:32
meetingologyVoting ended on: amjjawad for Ubuntu Membership12:32
meetingologyVotes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:012:32
meetingologyMotion carried12:32
Destineamjjawad, congrats!12:32
njalk_Grats Ali =)12:32
amjjawadthank you so much, popey and everyone else :)12:32
popey:D12:32
amjjawadthanks a lot, Destine and njalk_ :D12:32
eliaspsCongratulations amjjawad!12:32
jaredCongratulations amjjawad, thank you for your efforts12:32
amjjawadmany thanks eliasps :)12:32
amjjawadthank you for your time, jared and appreciate that :)12:33
rafaellaguna_congrats, bro!12:33
amjjawadrafaellaguna_, :D thank you :D12:33
rafaellaguna_welcome "aboard"12:34
amjjawad:D12:34
joern_congrats amjjawad!12:34
amjjawadit is great that someone who knows me for 4 years and worked with me is here rafaellaguna_ :D12:34
amjjawadthanks a lot, my good friend, joern_ :D12:34
rafaellaguna_oh but of course! anyway, I already knew what was going to happen ;)12:35
amjjawadrafaellaguna_, :D12:35
rafaellaguna_good! lunch time for celebrate. see you later, my friend12:37
amjjawadenjoy your meal, brother12:38
amjjawadit is bed time in my time zone :P12:38
jaredWell as there are no more applicants I might close the meeting12:38
jaredHappy for conversation to keep going afterwards I just want to close it officially for the logs12:38
amjjawadthank you everyone for your time12:38
jared#endmeeting12:38
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meetingologyMeeting ended Wed Nov 19 12:38:46 2014 UTC.12:38
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amjjawadThanks again, everyone12:39
amjjawadcan I leave now? it is 23:40 here12:39
jaredamjjawad: any time you want :)12:39
amjjawadjared, thank you so much :)12:39
amjjawadmust get ready .. have yet another long day tomorrow ... cya and thanks everyone and it is very great to be one of the Ubuntu members12:40
eliaspsamjjawad you deserve it. Keep up the good work!12:45
eliaspsSee you and congratulations!12:45
amjjawadeliasps, thanks a million :) and will sure do ;)12:45
amjjawadCya all12:45
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hggdhOK. time for the IRC meeting18:00
hggdh#startmeeting IRC Team18:01
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hggdhwe start with the usual18:02
hggdh#topic Review #ubuntu-ops-team18:02
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hggdhanything noteworthy here?18:02
* Pici waves18:03
hggdhPici: hi, thank you18:03
hggdhat least there are two of us here at the meeting18:03
Picihuzzah18:03
hggdhOK. Nothing noteworthy. Moving on18:04
PiciAgreed18:04
hggdh#topic Review last meetings action items18:05
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hggdhI do not remember any useful action items from last meeting.18:06
hggdhmoving on18:06
hggdh#topic Open items in the IRCC tracker18:06
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PiciI just noticed that the IRCC tracker seems to be down.18:06
rwwo/18:06
hggdhnevertheless, we also have Lars18:07
Pici"Fatal Error: Contact system adminstrator."18:07
hggdhrww: go ahead18:07
rwwwas just saying hi :)18:07
hggdhheh18:07
hggdhPici: who admins it?18:07
rww(missed the start of the meeting because IRL)18:07
Picijussi did.18:07
Picior tsimpson perhaps18:08
* hggdh notes verbe's tense18:08
hggdhanyway, I think this is a good point to get a closure on Lars/SamwiseGamgee/finrod18:08
PiciI'll poke them on the status of it anyway.18:08
rwwi think it's currently tsimpson. not 100% sure though18:08
hggdhSo. The IRCC had agreed that this user should receive the last chance. We (specifically, *I*) started to work on it, but received a strong disagreement from the ops-at-large18:10
Picistrong is an understatement18:10
hggdhas such, the IRCC bows to the will of the people, and declares the issue closed. Lars/SamwiseGamgee/finrod will still be banned from some of the core #ubuntu channels.18:11
hggdhanyone wishes to comment further on this?18:11
PiciI've said it before, imo the job of the IRCC is to both represent the users and the operators.  We would be doing the latter a disservice by continuing to let a single user take advantage of us.18:12
* hggdh assumes no one. Moving on18:12
Pici(was typing and thinking)18:12
hggdhI agree, and I never disagreed with it, or stated otherwise. I still had hope, nevertheless, that the ops-at-large disagreement would have been expressed with more civility.18:14
hggdhbut this is not for here and now18:14
Piciindeed.18:14
hggdhmoving on18:14
hggdh#topic Review Bugs related to the Ubuntu IRC Council18:14
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PiciThe only one there is the one regarding a floodbot rewrite.18:15
PiciI think it might be okay to close it... we have unopaste now, and drone is out there doing testing things.18:15
Picithoughts?18:16
hggdhwell.18:16
hggdhI would still keep the bug open, but updated with the fact that unopaste is in, and drone is being tried18:16
PiciFair enough.  I'll take care of that.18:17
hggdh(we still do not have a real replacement for the flood bots18:17
hggdhmoving on18:17
hggdhwell, the factoid review, and the call for operators are from the old (last) meeting. I think we can bypass these two18:18
hggdh#topic Membership applications18:18
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hggdhhere we have phunyguy applying for Ubuntu membership18:19
Pici\o/18:19
hggdhwiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phunyguy18:19
hggdhLP at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phunyguy18:20
rww(is IRCC quorum 2 or 3?)18:20
phunyguyo/18:20
hggdhthat's a good question... I myself do not know the answer18:20
cprofitthow many people are on the ircc?18:21
hggdhand it seems there are only two of us here18:21
elfyhggdh: isn't IRCC only 2 people at present with resignations?18:21
rwwcprofitt: 3 seats filled of 518:21
rwwso would be 2 if we count filled and 3 if we count how many there are supposed to be18:21
cprofittwith two seats empty I would think 2 of 3 is a qurom18:21
rwwexcellent18:21
hggdhOn the other hand, we are, at the moment, totalling 3 council seats. So -- methinks -- 2 out of 3 is majority18:21
cprofittits usually 2/3rds of the people18:21
hggdhso. Anyone wishes to drill phunyguy on his application for membership18:22
rwwelfy: 3. Tm_T, hggdh, Pici18:22
* phunyguy is away (not here)18:22
phunyguy:)18:23
hggdh(I personally have seen his work, and have no questions)18:23
phunyguyI will gladly answer any.18:23
hggdh#voters Pici hggdh Tm_T18:23
meetingologyCurrent voters: Pici Tm_T hggdh18:23
hggdh#vote on Ubuntu membership for phunyguy18:23
meetingologyPlease vote on: on Ubuntu membership for phunyguy18:23
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)18:23
hggdh+118:23
meetingology+1 received from hggdh18:23
phunyguy\o/18:24
Pici+118:24
meetingology+1 received from Pici18:24
phunyguy\o/!18:24
Pici:)18:24
hggdhgiving Tm_T a few seconds to vote...18:25
hggdh#endvote18:25
meetingologyVoting ended on: on Ubuntu membership for phunyguy18:25
meetingologyVotes for:2 Votes against:0 Abstentions:018:25
meetingologyMotion carried18:25
hggdhlong enough18:25
hggdhphunyguy: welcome in :-)18:25
phunyguythank you!18:25
Picihuzzah!18:25
rwwerry's active, if you need a priest^Wstaffer18:25
Picicongrats phunyguy  :)18:25
elfycongrats phunyguy :)18:25
rwwcongrats :)18:25
phunyguy:)18:26
hggdhphunyguy: you will have to ask an IRCC member for your cloak, if you so desire. Of course, bear in mind we are hard to be found18:26
cprofittcongrats phunyguy18:26
hggdhso, moving on18:26
hggdh#topic Any Other Business18:26
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phunyguyI assume that is in #freenode18:26
rwwphunyguy: ask IRCC wherever, and they'll hunt down a staffer and get it sorted18:27
hggdhphunyguy: no, it is on #ubuntu-irc18:27
phunyguyoh whoops18:27
tewardphunyguy: actually you ahve to find the IRCC members, either in #ubuntu-irc or wherever, they have to hunt down staff and make the cloak request - staff then might ask you to confirm you want the cloak offered, and then all is relatively golden.18:27
cprofitthggdh: are there other topics or are you looking for some?18:27
teward(sorry for the comment)18:27
rwwi have a couple of topics that I didn't agendize because I'm bad18:28
hggdhcprofitt: I am asking18:28
elfyhggdh: what's the movement on the nominations for new IRCC ?18:28
hggdhrww: please go ahead, this is the whole idea on ABO, cater for the procastinators18:28
rwwfirst one was what elfy just asked18:29
PiciWe've had one nomination.18:29
hggdhelfy: we received on single nomination. This is not eough to even begin the process.18:29
hggdhs/eough/enough/18:29
elfyhggdh: yea - sorry - cprofitt just let me know18:29
rwwanother call for nominations, I guess?18:30
PiciI suppose.18:30
hggdhrww: I personaly would go that way. But I wonder if there will be any difference18:30
cprofittwhat is the potential pool for nominees?18:31
elfyhggdh: iirc Membership Board had some issues last time with nominations, though different issue18:31
hggdhit is clear, to me, that no current operator wants the hassle.18:31
rwwcprofitt: Ubuntu Members with competence at IRC, basically18:31
rwwhggdh: frankly I'd rather have the hassle than have an understaffed IRCC, much as it kills me to say this18:32
* hggdh secretly rejoices18:32
elfyhggdh: I assume that IRCC needs to be IRC op18:32
* Pici too18:32
cprofittso they don't have to have been an IRC moderator in the past... just active on IRC and be an Ubuntu member?18:32
rwwelfy: no18:32
Picielfy: not a requirement18:32
elfymmm18:32
* cprofitt nods18:33
elfyperhaps if you DO call again make that more obvious - I assumed that to be the case18:33
rwwPersonally I prefer a good balance of current ops and non-op interested people. The latter have a good point of view that's an asset.18:33
hggdhelfy: no. Anyone, as long as (1) is an Ubuntu member; (2) has working knowledge of IRC18:33
hggdhrww: +118:33
cprofittI can understand it not having to have been an op -- no need to know who to moderate, but at least a person who holds the communities values and is familiar with irc18:33
rwwcprofitt: exactly18:33
elfyok - clear to me now - thanks :)18:34
hggdhso, I guess, the consensus is to send out a new RPN?18:34
hggdhRFN even18:34
cprofitthggdh: if we do another call please let me and Elfy know and the CC can help push some notification out to the community. I wonder if people thought they had to be an irc-op to qualify18:34
hggdhack, will do18:34
cprofittwe can make a concerted effort to get that message out18:35
hggdh#action send out new request for nominations for the IRCC; copy CC on that (and -news)18:35
meetingologyACTION: send out new request for nominations for the IRCC; copy CC on that (and -news)18:35
cprofittwith the recent discussion on reinvigorating the community this would be a good opportunity to make sure we are clear when looking for people to contribute in non-technial community areas18:35
elfy+118:35
hggdhcprofitt: indeed18:35
hggdhrww: so, you said you had a couple of items18:36
rwwOther one: what's the current status of call for ops? We have a bunch of pending folks on the LP groups18:37
hggdhoh18:37
rwwI forget if we accepted any new ops or not recently18:37
hggdhmissed that18:37
PiciI apologize, work is asking for something that I need to attend to here.18:38
hggdhdo we need more ops? If so, then we can consider the call of ops season open18:38
Piciso I'm going to be less vocal than I have been.18:38
rwwhggdh: I'm not sure. Might be something to ponder on -ops team18:38
hggdhand we can review the current pending requests18:38
rww-ops-team **18:38
hggdhrww: yes, I agree. Here's what I propose: send out an email to -irc requesting feedback on additional ops on the core channels18:39
hggdhany comments on this action?18:39
rwwwfm18:39
phunyguy^18:40
hggdh#action send out an email to -irc requesting feedback on additional ops on the core channels18:40
meetingologyACTION: send out an email to -irc requesting feedback on additional ops on the core channels18:40
hggdhdone (I mean, the *action* request is done)18:41
hggdhmore AOBs, any?18:41
hggdh518:41
hggdh418:41
hggdh318:41
hggdh218:41
hggdh118:41
hggdhOK18:42
hggdh#endmeeting18:42
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meetingologyMeeting ended Wed Nov 19 18:42:13 2014 UTC.18:42
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-11-19-18.01.moin.txt18:42
hggdhthank you18:42
rwwNext meeting is December 17th.18:43
rww(for anyone else who was about to check their calendar)18:43
cprofittthanks IRCC appreciate the work you guys are doing18:46
cprofitthggdh rww Pici I appreciate all the work and time you put in to help make our community on IRC freindly and inviting.18:47
hggdhrww: I can take the hint... I will update the page now18:48
rww:P18:48
elfybelated thanks from me too IRCC :)18:49
hggdhrww: done, thank you for the poke18:49

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