=== liam_ is now known as Guest50977 === doko_ is now known as doko [11:57] hi everyone, hi amjjawad! [11:58] Hello joern_ [11:58] Hi everyone, I am here and waiting the start :) [12:01] Hello :) [12:01] hi [12:01] Hello eliasps :) [12:02] amjjawad ;) [12:02] Hello rafaellaguna_ :D [12:02] Destine, amjjawad, rafaellaguna :) [12:05] I guess I just have to wait until someone starts the meeting, correct?! [12:05] amjjawad: we need quorum to start [12:05] !rmb [12:05] cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat, hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg, Pendulum, PabloRubienes, freeflying, jared, s-fox, amachu, and chilicuil. Meeting time. [12:05] Okay, thanks jared :) [12:08] hmm [12:08] I'm not listed there (still) [12:08] nor is rick [12:09] Hello popey :) [12:09] Sorry popey, I guess we could update that and it would no doubt help [12:09] ubottu: rmb is cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat, hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg, Pendulum, PabloRubienes, freeflying, jared, s-fox, amachu, chilicuil, rickspencer3 and popey. Meeting time. [12:09] But rmb already means something else! [12:09] o/ [12:09] ubottu: no rmb is cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat, hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg, Pendulum, PabloRubienes, freeflying, jared, s-fox, amachu, chilicuil, rickspencer3 and popey. Meeting time. [12:09] I'll remember that popey [12:10] !rmb [12:10] rmb is cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat, hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg, Pendulum, PabloRubienes, freeflying, jared, s-fox, amachu, chilicuil, rickspencer3 and popey. Meeting time. [12:10] \o/ [12:10] ~ [12:13] #startmeeting 2200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board [12:13] Meeting started Wed Nov 19 12:13:15 2014 UTC. The chair is jared. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [12:13] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 2200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: [12:13] Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the 2200 UTC meeting for November 19, 2014. [12:13] ʘ‿ಠ [12:13] Hi everyone :) [12:13] It's rather bright outside for 22:00 UTC ☻ [12:13] The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards [12:14] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad [12:14] When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers amounts to at least +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!) [12:14] #votesrequired 4 [12:14] votes now need 4 to be passed [12:14] #voters Destine popey rickspencer3 [12:14] Current voters: Destine popey rickspencer3 [12:15] #topic amjjawad's application for membership === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 2200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: amjjawad's application for membership [12:15] amjjawad: please introduce yourself to the board and we'll review your wiki [12:15] hi amjjawad [12:15] Hi everyone :) [12:15] amjjawad is my user name. My name is Ali [12:16] Glad to be here :) [12:17] amjjawad: hiya, so there's a lot of stuff listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad [12:18] amjjawad: What do you consider to be your primary focus? [12:18] popey, hello and yes indeed. That for 4 years :) [12:18] Ubuntu GNOME first, StartUbuntu second :) and Ubuntu Quality third [12:19] You certainly have a lot of testimonials! [12:19] popey, I've been part of several project for 4 years [12:19] What do you have planned for Ubuntu GNOME for the coming months? [12:19] Ubuntu Forums, Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Ubuntu Quality, etc [12:20] I am the community manager/leader so I focus on building a strong community while Tim (the head dev) focus on the technical side [12:20] Every cycle, I introduce new changes to the project [12:20] shall I share some? [12:21] Ubuntu GNOME has many good stuff that no other community has :) [12:21] I have started last cycle a new sub-team for Human Resources :) [12:21] some (just some) of what I have done recently: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/Roles [12:22] and: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/CycleAssessment/UtopicUnicorn [12:22] That's a lot of roles to fill! [12:22] By the way, it is me who created all this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/WikiMap [12:22] all these pages I mean [12:22] well, this is me :) my ambition has no limits :) [12:23] Right, but finding people to contribute to all of that must be difficult? [12:23] I never give up. It is very hard indeed but I enjoy it a lot [12:23] I have recruited many people to Lubuntu for 2 years [12:24] I played a major part within Lubuntu in many areas [12:24] what I have achieved in Lubuntu in 2 years, I have done it with Ubuntu GNOME in 6 months [12:24] What do you find most rewarding in Ubuntu? [12:24] with Lubuntu, things where there but I improved them [12:24] with Ubuntu GNOME, had to start from scratch [12:25] the sub-teams here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams it is me who created that [12:25] it is the power of we [12:25] all of us are smarter than anyone of us [12:25] I do adore Ubuntu's Philosophy [12:26] This Philosophy will never fail :) [12:26] Ok, I don't have any other questions. Anyone else?> [12:27] I don't [12:30] Just reading of a few links still, sorry, shouldn't be long [12:30] no worries, take your time :) [12:31] amjjawad: okay it seems everyone is ready [12:31] #vote amjjawad for Ubuntu Membership [12:31] Please vote on: amjjawad for Ubuntu Membership [12:31] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [12:31] +1 [12:31] +1 received from rickspencer3 [12:31] +1 [12:31] +1 received from popey [12:31] +1 [12:31] +1 received from Destine [12:32] +1 [12:32] #voters Destine popey rickspencer3 jared [12:32] Current voters: Destine jared popey rickspencer3 [12:32] +1 [12:32] +1 received from jared [12:32] Congratulations amjjawad ! [12:32] #endvote [12:32] Voting ended on: amjjawad for Ubuntu Membership [12:32] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [12:32] Motion carried [12:32] amjjawad, congrats! [12:32] Grats Ali =) [12:32] thank you so much, popey and everyone else :) [12:32] :D [12:32] thanks a lot, Destine and njalk_ :D [12:32] Congratulations amjjawad! [12:32] Congratulations amjjawad, thank you for your efforts [12:32] many thanks eliasps :) [12:33] thank you for your time, jared and appreciate that :) [12:33] congrats, bro! [12:33] rafaellaguna_, :D thank you :D [12:34] welcome "aboard" [12:34] :D [12:34] congrats amjjawad! [12:34] it is great that someone who knows me for 4 years and worked with me is here rafaellaguna_ :D [12:34] thanks a lot, my good friend, joern_ :D [12:35] oh but of course! anyway, I already knew what was going to happen ;) [12:35] rafaellaguna_, :D [12:37] good! lunch time for celebrate. see you later, my friend [12:38] enjoy your meal, brother [12:38] it is bed time in my time zone :P [12:38] Well as there are no more applicants I might close the meeting [12:38] Happy for conversation to keep going afterwards I just want to close it officially for the logs [12:38] thank you everyone for your time [12:38] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [12:38] Meeting ended Wed Nov 19 12:38:46 2014 UTC. [12:38] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-11-19-12.13.moin.txt [12:39] Thanks again, everyone [12:39] can I leave now? it is 23:40 here [12:39] amjjawad: any time you want :) [12:39] jared, thank you so much :) [12:40] must get ready .. have yet another long day tomorrow ... cya and thanks everyone and it is very great to be one of the Ubuntu members [12:45] amjjawad you deserve it. Keep up the good work! [12:45] See you and congratulations! [12:45] eliasps, thanks a million :) and will sure do ;) [12:45] Cya all === liam_ is now known as Guest9691 [18:00] OK. time for the IRC meeting [18:01] #startmeeting IRC Team [18:01] Meeting started Wed Nov 19 18:01:52 2014 UTC. The chair is hggdh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [18:01] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | IRC Team Meeting | Current topic: [18:02] we start with the usual [18:02] #topic Review #ubuntu-ops-team === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | IRC Team Meeting | Current topic: Review #ubuntu-ops-team [18:02] anything noteworthy here? [18:03] * Pici waves [18:03] Pici: hi, thank you [18:03] at least there are two of us here at the meeting [18:03] huzzah [18:04] OK. Nothing noteworthy. Moving on [18:04] Agreed [18:05] #topic Review last meetings action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | IRC Team Meeting | Current topic: Review last meetings action items [18:06] I do not remember any useful action items from last meeting. [18:06] moving on [18:06] #topic Open items in the IRCC tracker === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | IRC Team Meeting | Current topic: Open items in the IRCC tracker [18:06] I just noticed that the IRCC tracker seems to be down. [18:06] o/ [18:07] nevertheless, we also have Lars [18:07] "Fatal Error: Contact system adminstrator." [18:07] rww: go ahead [18:07] was just saying hi :) [18:07] heh [18:07] Pici: who admins it? [18:07] (missed the start of the meeting because IRL) [18:07] jussi did. [18:08] or tsimpson perhaps [18:08] * hggdh notes verbe's tense [18:08] anyway, I think this is a good point to get a closure on Lars/SamwiseGamgee/finrod [18:08] I'll poke them on the status of it anyway. [18:08] i think it's currently tsimpson. not 100% sure though [18:10] So. The IRCC had agreed that this user should receive the last chance. We (specifically, *I*) started to work on it, but received a strong disagreement from the ops-at-large [18:10] strong is an understatement [18:11] as such, the IRCC bows to the will of the people, and declares the issue closed. Lars/SamwiseGamgee/finrod will still be banned from some of the core #ubuntu channels. [18:11] anyone wishes to comment further on this? [18:12] I've said it before, imo the job of the IRCC is to both represent the users and the operators. We would be doing the latter a disservice by continuing to let a single user take advantage of us. [18:12] * hggdh assumes no one. Moving on [18:12] (was typing and thinking) [18:14] I agree, and I never disagreed with it, or stated otherwise. I still had hope, nevertheless, that the ops-at-large disagreement would have been expressed with more civility. [18:14] but this is not for here and now [18:14] indeed. [18:14] moving on [18:14] #topic Review Bugs related to the Ubuntu IRC Council === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | IRC Team Meeting | Current topic: Review Bugs related to the Ubuntu IRC Council [18:15] The only one there is the one regarding a floodbot rewrite. [18:15] I think it might be okay to close it... we have unopaste now, and drone is out there doing testing things. [18:16] thoughts? [18:16] well. [18:16] I would still keep the bug open, but updated with the fact that unopaste is in, and drone is being tried [18:17] Fair enough. I'll take care of that. [18:17] (we still do not have a real replacement for the flood bots [18:17] moving on [18:18] well, the factoid review, and the call for operators are from the old (last) meeting. I think we can bypass these two [18:18] #topic Membership applications === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | IRC Team Meeting | Current topic: Membership applications [18:19] here we have phunyguy applying for Ubuntu membership [18:19] \o/ [18:19] wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phunyguy [18:20] LP at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phunyguy [18:20] (is IRCC quorum 2 or 3?) [18:20] o/ [18:20] that's a good question... I myself do not know the answer [18:21] how many people are on the ircc? [18:21] and it seems there are only two of us here [18:21] hggdh: isn't IRCC only 2 people at present with resignations? [18:21] cprofitt: 3 seats filled of 5 [18:21] so would be 2 if we count filled and 3 if we count how many there are supposed to be [18:21] with two seats empty I would think 2 of 3 is a qurom [18:21] excellent [18:21] On the other hand, we are, at the moment, totalling 3 council seats. So -- methinks -- 2 out of 3 is majority [18:21] its usually 2/3rds of the people [18:22] so. Anyone wishes to drill phunyguy on his application for membership [18:22] elfy: 3. Tm_T, hggdh, Pici [18:22] * phunyguy is away (not here) [18:23] :) [18:23] (I personally have seen his work, and have no questions) [18:23] I will gladly answer any. [18:23] #voters Pici hggdh Tm_T [18:23] Current voters: Pici Tm_T hggdh [18:23] #vote on Ubuntu membership for phunyguy [18:23] Please vote on: on Ubuntu membership for phunyguy [18:23] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [18:23] +1 [18:23] +1 received from hggdh [18:24] \o/ [18:24] +1 [18:24] +1 received from Pici [18:24] \o/! [18:24] :) [18:25] giving Tm_T a few seconds to vote... [18:25] #endvote [18:25] Voting ended on: on Ubuntu membership for phunyguy [18:25] Votes for:2 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [18:25] Motion carried [18:25] long enough [18:25] phunyguy: welcome in :-) [18:25] thank you! [18:25] huzzah! [18:25] erry's active, if you need a priest^Wstaffer [18:25] congrats phunyguy :) [18:25] congrats phunyguy :) [18:25] congrats :) [18:26] :) [18:26] phunyguy: you will have to ask an IRCC member for your cloak, if you so desire. Of course, bear in mind we are hard to be found [18:26] congrats phunyguy [18:26] so, moving on [18:26] #topic Any Other Business === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | IRC Team Meeting | Current topic: Any Other Business [18:26] I assume that is in #freenode [18:27] phunyguy: ask IRCC wherever, and they'll hunt down a staffer and get it sorted [18:27] phunyguy: no, it is on #ubuntu-irc [18:27] oh whoops [18:27] phunyguy: actually you ahve to find the IRCC members, either in #ubuntu-irc or wherever, they have to hunt down staff and make the cloak request - staff then might ask you to confirm you want the cloak offered, and then all is relatively golden. [18:27] hggdh: are there other topics or are you looking for some? [18:27] (sorry for the comment) [18:28] i have a couple of topics that I didn't agendize because I'm bad [18:28] cprofitt: I am asking [18:28] hggdh: what's the movement on the nominations for new IRCC ? [18:28] rww: please go ahead, this is the whole idea on ABO, cater for the procastinators [18:29] first one was what elfy just asked [18:29] We've had one nomination. [18:29] elfy: we received on single nomination. This is not eough to even begin the process. [18:29] s/eough/enough/ [18:29] hggdh: yea - sorry - cprofitt just let me know [18:30] another call for nominations, I guess? [18:30] I suppose. [18:30] rww: I personaly would go that way. But I wonder if there will be any difference [18:31] what is the potential pool for nominees? [18:31] hggdh: iirc Membership Board had some issues last time with nominations, though different issue [18:31] it is clear, to me, that no current operator wants the hassle. [18:31] cprofitt: Ubuntu Members with competence at IRC, basically [18:32] hggdh: frankly I'd rather have the hassle than have an understaffed IRCC, much as it kills me to say this [18:32] * hggdh secretly rejoices [18:32] hggdh: I assume that IRCC needs to be IRC op [18:32] * Pici too [18:32] so they don't have to have been an IRC moderator in the past... just active on IRC and be an Ubuntu member? [18:32] elfy: no [18:32] elfy: not a requirement [18:32] mmm [18:33] * cprofitt nods [18:33] perhaps if you DO call again make that more obvious - I assumed that to be the case [18:33] Personally I prefer a good balance of current ops and non-op interested people. The latter have a good point of view that's an asset. [18:33] elfy: no. Anyone, as long as (1) is an Ubuntu member; (2) has working knowledge of IRC [18:33] rww: +1 [18:33] I can understand it not having to have been an op -- no need to know who to moderate, but at least a person who holds the communities values and is familiar with irc [18:33] cprofitt: exactly [18:34] ok - clear to me now - thanks :) [18:34] so, I guess, the consensus is to send out a new RPN? [18:34] RFN even [18:34] hggdh: if we do another call please let me and Elfy know and the CC can help push some notification out to the community. I wonder if people thought they had to be an irc-op to qualify [18:34] ack, will do [18:35] we can make a concerted effort to get that message out [18:35] #action send out new request for nominations for the IRCC; copy CC on that (and -news) [18:35] ACTION: send out new request for nominations for the IRCC; copy CC on that (and -news) [18:35] with the recent discussion on reinvigorating the community this would be a good opportunity to make sure we are clear when looking for people to contribute in non-technial community areas [18:35] +1 [18:35] cprofitt: indeed [18:36] rww: so, you said you had a couple of items [18:37] Other one: what's the current status of call for ops? We have a bunch of pending folks on the LP groups [18:37] oh [18:37] I forget if we accepted any new ops or not recently [18:37] missed that [18:38] I apologize, work is asking for something that I need to attend to here. [18:38] do we need more ops? If so, then we can consider the call of ops season open [18:38] so I'm going to be less vocal than I have been. [18:38] hggdh: I'm not sure. Might be something to ponder on -ops team [18:38] and we can review the current pending requests [18:38] -ops-team ** [18:39] rww: yes, I agree. Here's what I propose: send out an email to -irc requesting feedback on additional ops on the core channels [18:39] any comments on this action? [18:39] wfm [18:40] ^ [18:40] #action send out an email to -irc requesting feedback on additional ops on the core channels [18:40] ACTION: send out an email to -irc requesting feedback on additional ops on the core channels [18:41] done (I mean, the *action* request is done) [18:41] more AOBs, any? [18:41] 5 [18:41] 4 [18:41] 3 [18:41] 2 [18:41] 1 [18:42] OK [18:42] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [18:42] Meeting ended Wed Nov 19 18:42:13 2014 UTC. [18:42] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-11-19-18.01.moin.txt [18:42] thank you [18:43] Next meeting is December 17th. [18:43] (for anyone else who was about to check their calendar) [18:46] thanks IRCC appreciate the work you guys are doing [18:47] hggdh rww Pici I appreciate all the work and time you put in to help make our community on IRC freindly and inviting. [18:48] rww: I can take the hint... I will update the page now [18:48] :P [18:49] belated thanks from me too IRCC :) [18:49] rww: done, thank you for the poke