| jjfrv8 | bluesabre, running through the Parole testcase I noticed that the help docs could stand a few updates | 02:40 |
|---|---|---|
| jjfrv8 | one place is Preferences->Display. Video Output is new. If you want, I can make some edits to the docs but I wouldn't know how to explain the video output choices. | 02:42 |
| jjfrv8 | bblt | 02:55 |
| Unit193 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mugshot/+bug/1394064 | 03:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1394064 in mugshot (Ubuntu) "Mugshot fails to launch after clearing all user info fields (name, initials, email, etc)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 03:56 |
| ochosi | hey folks | 12:12 |
| knome | hello ochosi | 12:18 |
| ochosi | hey pasi, what's up? | 12:19 |
| knome | nothing special | 12:20 |
| knome | and there? | 12:20 |
| knome | finished traveling for a while? | 12:20 |
| ochosi | yup, at least for a bit it'll be more quiet | 12:20 |
| knome | great | 12:21 |
| knome | did you check out my responsive-CSS commit for the docs? | 12:21 |
| ochosi | not yet, only read about it | 12:21 |
| ochosi | what would be the easiest way to do so? | 12:22 |
| ochosi | or does it need extra testing before it'll land? | 12:22 |
| knome | it's in trunk | 12:22 |
| knome | bzr branch lp:xubuntu-docs && cd xubuntu-docs && make | 12:22 |
| knome | then open build/desktop-guide/index.html in a browser | 12:23 |
| ochosi | k | 12:26 |
| knome | it probably needs some little tweaks | 12:27 |
| knome | but they aren't anything that would break the experience or stop anybody from reading the docs with any device | 12:27 |
| knome | i would say those are namely: | 12:29 |
| knome | make the admonition graphics smaller | 12:30 |
| knome | check the header line-heights | 12:30 |
| ochosi | i got parsing errors when building | 12:31 |
| knome | aha? | 12:31 |
| ochosi | oh, i guess i don't have xml2po installed | 12:31 |
| knome | oops ;) | 12:31 |
| ochosi | no the package name by chance? | 12:31 |
| knome | no | 12:32 |
| knome | and don't "know" either | 12:32 |
| ochosi | gnome-doc-utils apparently | 12:33 |
| knome | we should really list those somewhere in the branch | 12:33 |
| knome | :| | 12:33 |
| knome | well debian/control tells that... | 12:35 |
| knome | docbook-xml, docbook-xsl, xsltproc, gnome-doc-utils to build | 12:35 |
| ochosi | looks good on the fake smartphone that chromium offers | 12:37 |
| ochosi | fwiw, the (!) red attention icon has meanwhile been changed in elementary-xfce to a yellow triangle | 12:38 |
| ochosi | also looks less like ERROR | 12:38 |
| ochosi | would be nice to update/replace that | 12:38 |
| knome | aha | 12:38 |
| knome | point me to the new icon and i'll do it together with the other small changes | 12:39 |
| ochosi | https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce/blob/master/elementary-xfce/status/32/dialog-warning.svg | 12:40 |
| ochosi | well replace 32 with the size you need obviously | 12:40 |
| knome | no PNG? :P | 12:40 |
| ochosi | wasn't sure what size the docs used | 12:40 |
| ochosi | png is installed on your system ;) | 12:40 |
| ochosi | so /usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce/.. | 12:40 |
| knome | dang, i thought you'd do the work for me :P | 12:40 |
| ochosi | huhu | 12:41 |
| ochosi | btw, is it a design decision that there's no visual hover effect on the hyperlinks in the docs? | 12:41 |
| knome | i can't remember :P | 12:42 |
| ochosi | :] | 12:42 |
| knome | if you think it's an issue, i can look at it | 12:43 |
| knome | fwiw, i still have the old icon :P | 12:43 |
| knome | i'm running 14.04 | 12:43 |
| knome | humm | 12:44 |
| knome | now tell me | 12:44 |
| knome | we have caution.png and important.png with that icon | 12:44 |
| knome | do you think i should just change both? | 12:44 |
| knome | the "warning" symbol is a stop-sign | 12:44 |
| ochosi | ehm | 12:45 |
| ochosi | guess you gotta give me some example contexts they appear in | 12:46 |
| knome | answer: i don't know | 12:46 |
| knome | there's no way to know which situation it is except to look in the source | 12:46 |
| knome | i don't even remeber if we use both tags | 12:46 |
| ochosi | well better clean that up first then ;) | 12:47 |
| knome | let's put it this way... do you think we would benefit of having the two different icons? | 12:47 |
| ochosi | not really | 12:47 |
| knome | ok, then i'll just replace both | 12:47 |
| ochosi | thing is, that red circle looks too much like an error sign anyway, so it's best to get rid of it | 12:48 |
| knome | heh | 12:48 |
| knome | great, thunar crashed | 12:48 |
| bluesabre | jjfrv8: won't be around today, but ochosi can help with Parole descriptions | 13:20 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: sent a mail for some priority greeter bugs, lets take a look at those if possible. I think https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1392367 might be the new black screen bug. | 13:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1392367 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "SegFault in libgdk-3" [Undecided,New] | 13:21 |
| bluesabre | gotta run, bbl | 13:21 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: ok, thanks! commented on the bug. it's easily possible though that conky and the custom setup of the guy is involved in the segfault... | 13:30 |
| elfy | wb ochosi :) | 13:55 |
| ochosi | thanks (again) :) | 13:57 |
| elfy | you seem to actually be here this time :p | 14:03 |
| ochosi | yup | 14:04 |
| ochosi | more or less | 14:04 |
| knome | pushed new revision for docs | 14:26 |
| knome | see commit message for the changes | 14:26 |
| knome | ochosi, slickymaster: | 14:27 |
| ochosi | knome: yup, new icon looks much better | 14:43 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i'm proposing to close this one as wontfix, lemme know whether you agree: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker-settings/+bug/1393767 | 15:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1393767 in light-locker-settings (Ubuntu) "[trusty] light-locker-settings may prevent xfpm to apply power source dependent monitor power management" [Undecided,New] | 15:15 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, bluesabre volunteered you to educate me on the new Video Output display setting in Parole | 15:29 |
| jjfrv8 | do you even want to update the docs to include that setting? | 15:29 |
| ochosi | wait, can you really use the verb "volunteer" to "volunteer someone"? :) | 15:38 |
| ochosi | ah right, yeah, that would probably make sense to reflect that in the online docs | 15:38 |
| sidi_ | ochosi, i have some laundry that needs volunteering btw. | 15:39 |
| * sidi_ would like to start distributing the surveys to Xfce users, btw | 15:40 | |
| sidi_ | you guys got your own site/blog/fb/g+ if i followed well? | 15:40 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, if you'd like, I could just add the screenshots and put some placeholder text on the staging site and you or bluesabre could fill in the technical details | 15:44 |
| ochosi | ah sure, that sounds nice | 15:50 |
| ochosi | thanks jjfrv8 | 15:50 |
| ochosi | just ping me when it's ready | 15:51 |
| ochosi | sidi_: yeah | 15:51 |
| ochosi | twitter, g+, fb, blog | 15:51 |
| ochosi | maybe even more, i'm not sure | 15:51 |
| sidi_ | ochosi, good. i'll make a list of the people i need to mail tonight then to ask for distribution | 15:53 |
| sidi_ | gotta not make this too xubuntu centric :-) | 15:53 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, ok, there are also a few minor changes needed in other sections. I'll do them and let you know when they're all ready. | 15:54 |
| ochosi | sidi_: yeah, makes not to focus on a distro | 15:55 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: sweet! thanks a lot! | 15:55 |
| slickymasterWork | knome, I'll check your commit tonight when I get home | 17:12 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, ta | 17:13 |
| slickymasterWork | and hi, too ;) | 17:13 |
| slickymasterWork | dkessel, have you checked your 'Devices' tab in the 'Mouse and Touchpad' settings? | 17:15 |
| knome | hullo | 17:15 |
| dkessel | slickymasterWork: hello :) will do that when i retest for the bug... once i have managed to get my hands onto the machine this week... | 17:16 |
| slickymasterWork | ok dkessel, ping me afterwards, so we can make a final judgment on your bug report | 17:17 |
| elfy | ochosi: bug1394314 | 18:13 |
| elfy | bug 1394314 | 18:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1394314 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "wrapper-2.0 crashed with SIGSEGV in strrchr()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1394314 | 18:13 |
| elfy | I redid it - marked my original as a dupe and made comment not to mark THIS one as a dupe | 18:13 |
| elfy | an issue which I'd lost for a while - but has now resurfaced for the last couple of days | 18:14 |
| dkessel | slickymasterWork: could not reproduce the context menu bug anymore, marked it as invalid | 18:55 |
| slickymasterWork | ok dkessel, thanks | 18:56 |
| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| brainwash | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/Xfce might need a rework, the page was last updated back in 2009 | 21:47 |
| knome | it might need deleting | 21:48 |
| brainwash | is it obsolete? | 21:48 |
| brainwash | or do you mean "less is more"? | 21:49 |
| knome | it's a bit meh | 21:49 |
| brainwash | is anyone willing to improve this wiki page? I would just mess around with the structure and eventually give up | 21:52 |
| knome | generally i think it would be much more useful to point to a page that explains how to use BUGZILLA, not the xfce wiki explicitly | 21:53 |
| brainwash | maybe you are right | 21:54 |
| knome | same goes for all bug trackers, just explain the software | 21:55 |
| knome | maybe you could bring this up on #ubuntu-quality | 21:55 |
| brainwash | yeah, it's somehow strange that several of these wiki pages just explain how to use bugzilla | 21:57 |
| Pwnna | does lightlocker leave logs? | 22:04 |
| Pwnna | utopic, black screen bug is back | 22:04 |
| dkessel | hmm should i report this repaint issue with thunar? https://imgur.com/OiGCnZT (the blur is made by me ;) basically, it is not redrawing dirty regions anymore... | 22:07 |
| brainwash | dkessel: anymore? since when? | 22:08 |
| dkessel | brainwash: well, this running instance is doing this... | 22:08 |
| dkessel | brainwash: and opening new windows takes about 20 seconds | 22:09 |
| brainwash | interesting | 22:09 |
| brainwash | does killing all instances of thunar resolve the problem(s)? | 22:10 |
| dkessel | but the new windows behave normally | 22:10 |
| dkessel | i guess... let me try | 22:10 |
| dkessel | yup. brainwash: could this be related to thumbnail creation? there was a new file in the folder | 22:12 |
| brainwash | right, I was thinking about this too, or something caused by browsing network shares | 22:13 |
| brainwash | or even local mounted devices | 22:13 |
| brainwash | this buggy behavior should be reported, preferable upstream | 22:14 |
| brainwash | the important thing is, you have to find a way to reproduce this bug :) | 22:16 |
| dkessel | i was guessing so... ;) | 22:16 |
| * dkessel looks up how to kill those thumbnails | 22:17 | |
| brainwash | Pwnna: black screen caused by suspend via lid close? do you maybe own a thinkpad? | 22:19 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: yea | 22:19 |
| brainwash | yea to both questions? | 22:20 |
| brainwash | people continue to add comments to the old launchpad report for trusty | 22:21 |
| brainwash | there is also bug 1387413 | 22:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1387413 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Black screen after wakeup from suspending by closing the laptop lid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1387413 | 22:21 |
| slickymaster | knome, just build rev. 278 | 22:44 |
| slickymaster | everything looks ok | 22:44 |
| knome | good | 22:44 |
| knome | i'm now the maintainer for xfce twitter account too | 22:44 |
| knome | how did this happen? :P | 22:45 |
| dkessel | lol | 22:45 |
| slickymaster | lol | 22:45 |
| dkessel | said yes in the wrong moment? ;) | 22:45 |
| slickymaster | where you engaged? | 22:45 |
| dkessel | :D | 22:45 |
| knome | dkessel, i guess.. :P | 22:46 |
| knome | slickymaster, was i engaged with what? :P | 22:46 |
| slickymaster | engaged in the sense that you were forced to | 22:47 |
| knome | nah | 22:47 |
| knome | things change | 22:47 |
| slickymaster | :) | 22:48 |
| knome | sidi, you should've sent the mail directly to -users | 22:48 |
| knome | sidi, the end-user facing one | 22:48 |
| sidi | ah crap | 22:52 |
| sidi | thought its better to let you ACK and do it yourselves as im not Xub | 22:53 |
| knome | hrr hrr | 22:53 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: sorry for being AFK. but yes to both questions | 23:19 |
| Pwnna | and which bug should i be adding comments to? | 23:19 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Oh, and you asked me something about mate, could be an idea, but one that bluesabre should look at. | 23:43 |
| brainwash | Pwnna: I suggest that you add comments to the new report. the old one is marked as fixed and it's not easy to follow the flood of comments | 23:44 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: sure. i've been intermittenly reproducing the bug. | 23:44 |
| Pwnna | i can sometimes reliably reproduce it, and then it goes away (however when i wake the screen is at minimum brightness) | 23:44 |
| Pwnna | checked out /var/logs.. found nothing of interest so far | 23:45 |
| brainwash | Unit193, bluesabre: mate-system-tools as replacement for gnome-system-tools (which is not maintained anymore) | 23:45 |
| Pwnna | brainwash: are you the person reporting that new bug? | 23:48 |
| Pwnna | do you have a thinkpad as well? | 23:48 |
| Pwnna | there may be another minor bug for lightlocker | 23:48 |
| brainwash | Pwnna: no, it's not me | 23:48 |
| Pwnna | ok | 23:49 |
| brainwash | personally I would just switch to another screen locker | 23:49 |
| Pwnna | yeah | 23:49 |
| Pwnna | me too | 23:49 |
| Pwnna | but i'm lazy and i got my work around | 23:50 |
| Pwnna | in addition, do we track this bug? | 23:51 |
| Pwnna | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10373 | 23:51 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10373 in General "libxfce4ui-4.11: 3bb8c7d breaks shortcuts with <Super> modifier" [Normal,New] | 23:51 |
| Pwnna | there's https://bugs.launchpad.net/libxfce4ui/+bug/1303404 but there hasn't been an update for like. a release now | 23:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1303404 in libxfce4ui "Hotkeys with <Super> modifier overriding each other" [Medium,Confirmed] | 23:54 |
| brainwash | right, if no one is able/willing to fix it, then it will remain unfixed | 23:56 |
| brainwash | I don't know if reverting the "faulty" commit is the right solution | 23:58 |
| brainwash | Pwnna: I suggest that you talk to hjudt in #xfce-dev | 23:59 |
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