| kavaco | lordievader: hi | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| mparillo | surfs^: I cannot run it in a VMware VM, so it is not ready for me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/1362631 though the upstream bug is claimed to be fixed https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340966 | 00:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1362631 in open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) "Enter Full Screen Mode crashes Plasma Next Desktop in Kubuntu 14.10 and Daily Build of 15.04" [Undecided,New] | 00:00 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 340966 in general "Plasma 5 crashes maximizing VMware Player" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] | 00:00 |
| kavaco | lordievader: the problem dont exist now!! | 00:00 |
| kavaco | lordievader: on Kubuntu 14.04 the amd catalyst downloaded form AMD site, work! | 00:01 |
| kavaco | lordievader: the buttons: restart, shutdown and logout works normally now. And de Mixer controll too!!! | 00:02 |
| kavaco | lordievader: lordievader_: thank you very much! | 00:02 |
| kavaco | lordievader: Ah, i instaled the AMD Catalyst 14.9(fglrx 14.301) form site | 00:04 |
| surfs^ | Nice! Thanks for the feedback. | 00:05 |
| kavaco | surfs^: me? | 00:05 |
| === Yukinotteru is now known as Dhs92 | ||
| === Dhs92 is now known as Yukitteru | ||
| kavaco | the AMD Catalyst 14.9(fglrx 14.301) form site dont work on Kubuntu 14.10 | 00:15 |
| kavaco | the fglrx form repo, dont work on 14.10 too | 00:15 |
| kavaco | on Dell Inpiron 5447 - Brazillian version | 00:16 |
| kavaco | with hybrid graphics | 00:16 |
| kavaco | Intel HD and AMD Radeon R7 M265 | 00:16 |
| MobileRoey | heyl... KDE didn't start up for me once I upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10. I moved ~/.kde aside and ran startx, letting KDE re-start. It did. How can I diagnose what's wrong with my ~/.kde then? | 00:37 |
| MobileRoey | hi? anyone here?? | 00:40 |
| kavaco | MobileRoey: have patience :D | 00:45 |
| MobileRoey | I'm frustrated beyond belief :( | 00:46 |
| MobileRoey | I meant :) but it came out :( my bad | 00:46 |
| MobileRoey | kavaco: it infuriates me that I can NEVER do a do-release-upgrade -d without something messing up and causing some showstopper issue. | 00:46 |
| MobileRoey | every.single.time. | 00:46 |
| MobileRoey | I cringe at having to upgrade | 00:46 |
| kavaco | :D | 00:47 |
| kavaco | your KDE is working now? | 00:47 |
| kavaco | with a new .kde directory? | 00:47 |
| MobileRoey | yeah but startup is super super super slow. | 00:48 |
| MobileRoey | I killed that effing baloo indexer once I found it was using 100% cpu. | 00:48 |
| MobileRoey | so I was wondering if I should slice-and-dice between the new .kde and my original .kde in hopes of finding the core of the issue | 00:49 |
| kavaco | you have a guest user? | 00:53 |
| MobileRoey | hrm. | 00:53 |
| MobileRoey | checking.. | 00:53 |
| MobileRoey | normally I should.. | 00:54 |
| kavaco | login with the guest user, and compare | 00:55 |
| MobileRoey | ok. | 00:55 |
| MobileRoey | ohhhhhhhhhhhh | 00:55 |
| MobileRoey | is it systemd? | 00:55 |
| MobileRoey | is that what's messing thisup? | 00:55 |
| MobileRoey | I added a guest user with useradd | 00:55 |
| MobileRoey | then ran passwd on it to give it a password | 00:55 |
| MobileRoey | logging in, i see error messages from stem-login. | 00:56 |
| MobileRoey | er | 00:56 |
| MobileRoey | systemd-login | 00:56 |
| MobileRoey | Failed to start unit user@1001.service: Unknown unit: user@10001.service | 00:56 |
| MobileRoey | systemd-logind[332]: Failed to start user service: Unknown unit: user@1001.service | 00:56 |
| MobileRoey | No directory, lgging in with HOME:/ | 00:57 |
| MobileRoey | er? | 00:57 |
| MobileRoey | useradd is different than adduser, that I know. | 00:57 |
| MobileRoey | but which one's which. | 00:57 |
| MobileRoey | argh. | 00:57 |
| MobileRoey | useradd it was then. | 00:58 |
| MobileRoey | ok, re-created guest user and logged into it. | 00:58 |
| kavaco | its ok? | 00:59 |
| kavaco | is it slow? | 00:59 |
| MobileRoey | GAH | 00:59 |
| kavaco | GAH? | 00:59 |
| MobileRoey | adduser DID create a /home/guest, but when I try logging into the guest user, I still get "No directory, logging in with HOME=/"; | 01:00 |
| MobileRoey | I have no permission to /home/aux apparently | 01:00 |
| MobileRoey | as the guest user. | 01:00 |
| MobileRoey | kavaco: ^ | 01:01 |
| MobileRoey | the permissions seem fine on it, I just cannot cd into it. | 01:01 |
| MobileRoey | for some reason. | 01:01 |
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| === Sp00ky is now known as Sp00ky_ | ||
| MobileRoey | kavaco: yeah, I get "permission denied" when I try to CD into ~aux | 01:03 |
| MobileRoey | ? why? | 01:03 |
| kavaco | what's user name? | 01:04 |
| kavaco | and directory? | 01:04 |
| MobileRoey | au | 01:04 |
| MobileRoey | aux | 01:04 |
| MobileRoey | direcotry /home/aux | 01:05 |
| MobileRoey | BRB phone | 01:05 |
| === Sp00ky_ is now known as sp00ky | ||
| kavaco | sudo usermod -d /home/aux aux | 01:05 |
| kavaco | try this | 01:05 |
| kavaco | but you do it with the admin user | 01:06 |
| === sp00ky is now known as sp00ky_ | ||
| === sp00ky_ is now known as Sp00ky_ | ||
| kavaco | and be patience, i dont speak english very well :D | 01:07 |
| jdwwatts | im trying to get kmail configured and so far i got incoming messages but cant sendany one have any ideas? | 03:46 |
| jdwwatts | kmail just puts it inthe out box with no error mssage | 03:47 |
| rx_ | smtp servers missing? | 03:49 |
| jdwwatts | i thought i ha the info in there right but who knows | 03:50 |
| vros | HI | 05:35 |
| vros | how to repair "??????????" names on usb flash. Opened by Dolphin and Kubuntu 12.04? | 05:36 |
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| Tm_T | vros: you either have no rights to the files or the filesystem is broken | 05:39 |
| vros | Tm_T, how to config that? | 05:40 |
| Tm_T | vros: dolphin should tell who "owns" the files | 05:41 |
| === kevin is now known as Guest74750 | ||
| Tm_T | vros: also the folder where the files in should be checked | 05:41 |
| vros | all to root | 05:42 |
| vros | all mounted as root but I not use root before | 05:44 |
| Tm_T | vros: have you used sudo at some point? | 05:48 |
| Tm_T | related to that usb flash | 05:48 |
| vros___ | this is no cyrylik names, but also "?????" and mounted as root | 05:51 |
| vros___ | it is for all usb's | 05:52 |
| vros___ | hm))) it mount as on Server | 06:06 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 06:09 |
| lordievader | kavaco: Good to hear you fixed your issue. | 06:09 |
| === Yukitteru is now known as Yukinotteru | ||
| === turgay_ is now known as turgay | ||
| znc- | hmm dont got the folder /usr/include/linux headers are installed | 08:56 |
| znc- | any ideas | 08:56 |
| === ed is now known as Guest9318 | ||
| === ksinny_ is now known as ksinny | ||
| === administrator is now known as keyonce04 | ||
| keyonce04 | hi | 12:15 |
| lordievader | o/ | 12:17 |
| keyonce04 | good morning | 12:17 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon ;) | 12:19 |
| keyonce04 | what? | 12:20 |
| lordievader | keyonce04: i18n ;) | 12:21 |
| keyonce04 | what does that mean | 12:23 |
| lordievader | keyonce04: Google it ;) | 12:24 |
| keyonce04 | ok | 12:24 |
| keyonce04 | i will be back | 12:24 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:27 |
| === sphinx is now known as Guest99505 | ||
| diego__ | Greetings, I am looking for help to turn off my computer. | 13:58 |
| diego__ | After installing KDM, none of the Leave buttons work, these are: Log Out, Restart, ShutDown | 13:58 |
| diego__ | and Sleep | 13:58 |
| diego__ | Would anyone know how to fix this_ | 13:58 |
| diego__ | ? | 13:59 |
| BluesKaj | diego__, try sudo reboot to reboot or sudo halt to power down | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | update and upgrade first tho | 14:04 |
| diego__ | BluesKaj: Thank you. | 14:19 |
| === Fritigern is now known as Fritigern_AFK | ||
| diego__ | BluesKaj: Your suggestion did do the trick. After that, Restarting goes as expected. Something got fixed in the middle. Cheers. | 14:51 |
| BluesKaj | diego__, good to hear :) | 14:52 |
| toothe | what's a good GUI text editor with formatting? | 15:02 |
| hateball | toothe: Kate? | 15:02 |
| soee | Kate, SublimeText | 15:02 |
| oquidave | why am i having this "tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1484/master " when i dont' have any service(am assuming mail server which is actually on another box) running on port 25 | 15:26 |
| lordievader | oquidave: What does 'ps -p 1484' return? | 15:28 |
| oquidave | lordievader: seen it, it is postfix!! | 15:29 |
| hateball | perhaps you installed something recently that had postfix as a dependency | 15:30 |
| hateball | and just pressed Y | 15:30 |
| hateball | checking the dpkg/apt log should reveal the truth | 15:30 |
| oquidave | hateball thanks | 15:35 |
| rberg_ | 'aptitude why' can be helpful when trying to figure out why something got installed | 15:36 |
| hyper_ch | hi there, on my notebook I usually have two external monitors. One is vga and other is hdmi. Now, if I accidentally disconnect the hdmi one and reconnect it, all is fine. However if I accidentally disconnect the vga one and reconnect it, KDE doesn't recognize it anymore. Also it won't show up in the systemsettings -> Monitor configuration tool | 16:10 |
| znc- | hey, using 11.10 and would like to install 2.x kernel | 17:36 |
| znc- | can someone help | 17:36 |
| znc- | tried to build but it fails | 17:36 |
| lordievader | znc-: You do know 11.10 has been EOL for ages? But what do you run into? | 17:38 |
| znc- | yes | 17:38 |
| znc- | what you mean by run itno hmm | 17:39 |
| lordievader | znc-: You say it fails, on what does it fail? | 17:39 |
| znc- | oki | 17:39 |
| znc- | http://pastebin.com/EP6EHXKm | 17:40 |
| lordievader | znc-: Make that command "sudo make menuconfig" ;) | 17:41 |
| znc- | oki | 17:41 |
| lordievader | znc-: Reading the error usually tells you what to do. | 17:41 |
| denysonique | lordievader: sounds like Gentoo | 17:43 |
| znc- | http://pastebin.com/XSVDiiKp | 17:43 |
| lordievader | denysonique: Compiling kernels? Can be done anywhere ;) | 17:43 |
| lordievader | znc-: Do you have ncurses-dev installed? | 17:45 |
| znc- | dont know | 17:45 |
| znc- | should I try to install it | 17:45 |
| lordievader | znc-: Also, could you provide the full output of the last make command? | 17:46 |
| znc- | what make exactlz | 17:46 |
| znc- | this was sudo make menuconfig | 17:46 |
| lordievader | Was it all? | 17:47 |
| znc- | yes | 17:47 |
| lordievader | Hmm... | 17:47 |
| lordievader | I suppose you can use the 'oldconfig' if it still doesn't work after installing the ncurses headers. | 17:48 |
| znc- | oki first I will try to install ncurses-dev and repeat this right | 17:49 |
| znc- | ncurses-dev installed | 17:50 |
| znc- | outptut changed http://pastebin.com/Msssa5Ps but still fails | 17:52 |
| znc- | hmm | 17:52 |
| znc- | sudo make oldconfig also failing | 17:53 |
| lordievader | Where did you get the kernel from? | 17:53 |
| znc- | kernel.org | 17:53 |
| znc- | https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ | 17:53 |
| znc- | here | 17:53 |
| znc- | hmm | 17:54 |
| lordievader | znc-: Your folder says 2.6.5... kernel.org has 2.6.32... | 17:54 |
| znc- | youre right I see its rather old | 17:54 |
| znc- | 2004 whops | 17:54 |
| znc- | I will try with a newer 2.6.32 yeah | 17:56 |
| hyper_ch | hi there, on my notebook I usually have two external monitors. One is vga and other is hdmi. Now, if I accidentally disconnect the hdmi one and reconnect it, all is fine. However if I accidentally disconnect the vga one and reconnect it, KDE doesn't recognize it anymore. Also it won't show up in the systemsettings -> Monitor configuration tool | 17:58 |
| toothe | does anyone recommend a text-editor that can do format highlighting? | 18:06 |
| lordievader | toothe: Vim :D | 18:16 |
| toothe | vim is for command-line | 18:19 |
| lordievader | That's right ;) | 18:19 |
| kavaco_ | lordievader: hi | 18:34 |
| lordievader | o/ | 18:34 |
| kavaco_ | lordievader: see my feedback yesterday? | 18:34 |
| lordievader | Jup, replied to it too ;) | 18:35 |
| kavaco_ | Jup? | 18:36 |
| archetech2 | J pronounced ya | 18:37 |
| kavaco_ | i dont undertand, but, its ok :D | 18:38 |
| lordievader | kavaco_: It is probably very dutch, means something along the lines of yes/yeah ;) | 18:38 |
| archetech2 | similar to redneck amaerican's yep | 18:40 |
| lordievader | Jup :P | 18:41 |
| kavaco_ | ah, understand now! | 18:41 |
| kavaco_ | similar to brazilian's "blz" | 18:41 |
| kavaco_ | ok | 18:43 |
| kavaco_ | the kubuntu 14.04 dont work with amd catalyst from repo, but work with a amd catalyst form amd site. | 18:44 |
| kavaco_ | its perfect! | 18:44 |
| kavaco_ | lordievader: but the execution is not this happening normally. necessary to install some packages before running the script. | 18:46 |
| lordievader | kavaco_: What are you talking about? | 18:47 |
| kavaco_ | amd catalyst driver | 18:47 |
| kavaco_ | from amd site | 18:47 |
| kavaco_ | remeber? the restart, shutdown and logout buttons dont working yesterday... | 18:48 |
| kavaco_ | and same menus in a windows... | 18:49 |
| lordievader | kavaco_: Yes, but running what isn't happening like normal? And what was necessary to install? | 18:49 |
| kavaco_ | i installed the amd catalyst from site | 18:49 |
| kavaco_ | sudo apt-get install gcc dh-modaliases execstack dpkg-dev debhelper dkms lib32gcc1 | 18:49 |
| kavaco_ | this | 18:49 |
| lordievader | That makes sense. | 18:50 |
| kavaco_ | lordievader: the script is not shown erros, but it was possible to see the log. | 18:50 |
| lordievader | In other words you installed dkms + build-essential ;) | 18:51 |
| kavaco_ | :D | 18:51 |
| kavaco_ | i ran the steam games now | 18:58 |
| kavaco_ | how to install the lamp-server on kubuntu? | 19:02 |
| lordievader | kavaco_: apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5 ? | 19:04 |
| kavaco_ | and common plugins PHP and Apache | 19:05 |
| kavaco_ | on Mageia, i can install lamp package | 19:06 |
| kavaco_ | but, its ok | 19:06 |
| lordievader | kavaco_: Here probably too, I just like doing things by hand ;) | 19:06 |
| kavaco_ | kubuntu/ubuntu dont have a lamp package, i think | 19:07 |
| kavaco_ | Muon dont shown | 19:08 |
| === melter_ is now known as melter | ||
| lordievader | znc-: Did you succeed with the kernel from kernel.org? | 19:44 |
| znc- | lordievader on the run got into menuconfig and now running sudo mae | 19:55 |
| znc- | make | 19:55 |
| ikonia | znc-: why are you doing this | 19:55 |
| znc- | I read about to use an older kernel to compile something else | 19:56 |
| znc- | wanted try that | 19:56 |
| ikonia | the kernel you are running shouldn't have any impact on compiling anything | 19:56 |
| znc- | ikonia maybe it will not help but lets see | 19:56 |
| znc- | dont know | 19:56 |
| ikonia | you're basically out of luck in this channel as 1.) 11.10 is out of support/dead 2.) this channel isn't here to take it further out of support | 19:56 |
| ikonia | znc-: you should know before you try | 19:56 |
| ikonia | as you will cause problems on your already unsupported system | 19:57 |
| BluesKaj_ | usually sudo isn't needed for thew make command , only for make install | 19:57 |
| ikonia | sudo for make is actually a security risk | 19:57 |
| znc- | yes doint it by tutorial where its so described | 19:58 |
| znc- | http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/how-to-compile-and-install-linux-kernel-3-0-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-and-10-04/ | 19:58 |
| ikonia | znc-: seems to me like a.) a terrible guide b.) a terrible idea | 19:59 |
| metallic | lol | 20:01 |
| znc- | hmm yes maybe its really not the best ideo sudoing the make | 20:06 |
| znc- | sudo make install should be fine | 20:06 |
| znc- | btw it failed | 20:06 |
| === kevin is now known as Guest87131 | ||
| ikonia | znc-: this is not a good move | 20:06 |
| ikonia | znc-: and outside the scope of this channel | 20:06 |
| znc- | what exactly | 20:06 |
| znc- | compiling a kernel | 20:07 |
| === Yukinotteru is now known as Dhs92 | ||
| ikonia | znc-: a.) 11.10 - unsupported b.) custom kernels | 20:08 |
| znc- | so I dont may ask for here otherwise banned or so | 20:09 |
| znc- | hmm | 20:09 |
| ikonia | lets not get dramatic | 20:09 |
| ikonia | there is no need to ban you | 20:09 |
| znc- | so its ok but you dont like that | 20:09 |
| ikonia | it's not ok | 20:09 |
| ikonia | it's basically outside the scope of this channel (I strongly advise you not to do it - it's a very bad idea) | 20:10 |
| znc- | understand you but where should i ask instead | 20:10 |
| lordievader | znc-: Why was it again that you needed 11.10? | 20:10 |
| znc- | because I wanted to build something old and wanted to simulate the circumstances from the old | 20:11 |
| keithzg | znc-: why do you need a newer kernel then, though? | 20:22 |
| znc- | keithzg hmm | 20:23 |
| znc- | its an older | 20:23 |
| znc- | better say got a 3.x and want to get a 2.x one that way dont know the release dates maybe theyre crossed | 20:29 |
| === ryszard is now known as Guest82519 | ||
| Guest35833 | hi - the plasma5 tech demo disk - does that upgrade to latest plasma 5 or is the version static ? (i.e not upgradable?) | 21:15 |
| Guest35833 | i.e - if I install the plasma5 iso then apt-get upgrade it will it have plasma 5.1.1 ? https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.1.1.php | 21:16 |
| Guest35833 | i.e the plasma 5 .iso is it just a snapshot of where plasma5 was in Oct 2014 or is it current ? | 21:20 |
| lordievader | Guest35833: The iso is a snapshot yes. | 21:21 |
| lordievader | The ppa it uses is another thing though. | 21:22 |
| Guest35833 | lordievader: so if I install normal 14.10 - then add ppa that is current | 21:28 |
| Guest35833 | this one - ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next ? | 21:28 |
| lordievader | Guest35833: Err, I'm not entirely sure. But I think that is the one. | 21:30 |
| lordievader | Should end up with the same. | 21:30 |
| Guest35833 | lordievader: thanks - been meaning to try plasma5 for a while... | 21:32 |
| Guest35833 | (may ever find a bug or 2 to report..) | 21:33 |
| Guest35833 | *even* | 21:33 |
| lordievader | Guest35833: \o/ | 21:35 |
| === andrej is now known as Guest95898 | ||
| geek83 | Hello All :) | 22:12 |
| geek83 | kubuntu 14.04.1 running awesome, new install here. | 22:12 |
| Guest35833 | geek83: good to hear ! | 22:15 |
| geek83 | yes ty tried a lot ubuntu distro's, kubuntu best so far | 22:15 |
| geek83 | gnome-ubuntu as well | 22:15 |
| alket | any good alternative to Gwenview | 22:50 |
| === Dhs92 is now known as Yukitteru | ||
| soee | alket: why is it bad ? | 22:55 |
| soee | i think gwenview rox | 22:56 |
| alket | actually its nice but I have some problem which bothers me | 22:56 |
| alket | its that I have to do CTRL + Scroll to zoom | 22:56 |
| alket | I need just to mouse scroll to zoom :) | 22:57 |
| soee | change shortcuts ? :) | 22:58 |
| alket | stupid me | 22:59 |
| alket | thanks soee | 22:59 |
| MobileRoey | hi | 23:00 |
| soee | hey MobileRoey | 23:00 |
| MobileRoey | I can't seem to get acceleration working with the proprietary NVidia drivers. Can anyone help? NOT #nvidia btw I asked there already. Thanks! | 23:00 |
| MobileRoey | oh hey soee | 23:00 |
| soee | do you have one card or 2 ? | 23:00 |
| MobileRoey | one | 23:01 |
| soee | and why do you think you cant make it work ? | 23:01 |
| MobileRoey | 1) slow in drawing | 23:01 |
| MobileRoey | 2) no desktop effects | 23:01 |
| MobileRoey | though... glxinfo | grep irect says 'yes' | 23:02 |
| MobileRoey | oh, and glxgears only gives me ~50 FPS | 23:02 |
| MobileRoey | this is a Geforce 750Ti card on a Q6600 system | 23:02 |
| MobileRoey | so it's not exactly slow. | 23:02 |
| keithzg | MobileRoey: How have you installed the drivers? | 23:02 |
| MobileRoey | yes I did. | 23:02 |
| MobileRoey | oh | 23:02 |
| MobileRoey | /how/ | 23:02 |
| keithzg | heh | 23:02 |
| MobileRoey | I used the proprietary instlaler | 23:02 |
| MobileRoey | sudo sh NVI*.bin | 23:03 |
| * keithzg sighs | 23:03 | |
| keithzg | please don't :P | 23:03 |
| MobileRoey | fuck nvidia btw. Linus was right. | 23:03 |
| MobileRoey | nothing | 23:03 |
| MobileRoey | gives me as much hassle as NVidia drivers. | 23:03 |
| keithzg | Yeahhh. I've been there. | 23:03 |
| MobileRoey | keithzg: heh | 23:03 |
| MobileRoey | keithzg: are there NVidia debs? | 23:03 |
| MobileRoey | that arenot old? | 23:04 |
| keithzg | Yeah it's all in the repo. | 23:04 |
| MobileRoey | ah ok. | 23:04 |
| MobileRoey | what is it called? | 23:04 |
| MobileRoey | (and not nouveau!) | 23:04 |
| keithzg | nvidia-current | 23:04 |
| MobileRoey | ok | 23:04 |
| soee | what kbuntu version are you running ? | 23:04 |
| keithzg | Or nvidia-current-updates for the newer ones, depending. | 23:04 |
| MobileRoey | soee: 14.10 | 23:05 |
| keithzg | You can also try just using the Driver Manager (should be found quickly by searching the launcher or krunner). | 23:05 |
| soee | MobileRoey: go to System Settings -> Drivers | 23:05 |
| soee | and pick recommended, it will instal for you | 23:05 |
| MobileRoey | apt-get update && apt-get install nvidia-current-updates | 23:05 |
| MobileRoey | ya? | 23:05 |
| MobileRoey | k | 23:06 |
| keithzg | Naw I'd second what soee says. | 23:06 |
| MobileRoey | I would but the graphics are too slow to redraw | 23:06 |
| MobileRoey | oh, | 23:06 |
| MobileRoey | also, | 23:06 |
| MobileRoey | the console is set to this really squished font | 23:06 |
| MobileRoey | and the redraw is SSSSLLLLLLLOOOOOWWWW | 23:06 |
| MobileRoey | omg. | 23:06 |
| keithzg | It'll install from the repos, as if you had done so manually, but I think it also then it does the post-config which it might not otherwise. | 23:06 |
| keithzg | What's your X.org conf like? | 23:06 |
| MobileRoey | ok | 23:06 |
| MobileRoey | I let nvidia write me one | 23:06 |
| keithzg | Could you throw it into a paste? Although it's honestly worth just uninstalling the drivers first and then re-installing using System Settings -> Drivers as soee mentions. | 23:07 |
| keithzg | That's the way that *should* work. | 23:07 |
| MobileRoey | ok | 23:08 |
| MobileRoey | also, mujst I get out of X when installing these, as I must with the proprietary installer? | 23:09 |
| === rodolfojcj_ is now known as rodolfojcj | ||
| keithzg | Naw | 23:10 |
| MobileRoey | ooh ok. | 23:10 |
| keithzg | One of the advantages the Kubuntu way has over the NVIDIA way :P | 23:10 |
| MobileRoey | -updates is more current than nvidia-current, right? | 23:10 |
| MobileRoey | :) yeah, I appreciate it. | 23:10 |
| keithzg | Package management FTW. | 23:11 |
| * MobileRoey fondles his package manager fondly. | 23:11 | |
| MobileRoey | <-- long time fan of apt | 23:11 |
| keithzg | Yeah that's the only thing I don't like about the idea of switching away from my trusty old Nokia N9. | 23:12 |
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| MobileRoey | WARNING: Failed to restore some backed up files/symlinks, and/or their attributes. See /var/log//nvidia-installer for details | 23:12 |
| keithzg | Well, there are other things, but mostly SailfishOS takes care of them. | 23:12 |
| MobileRoey | ah | 23:12 |
| MobileRoey | jolla phone? | 23:12 |
| keithzg | ja, although I can't use one in my country (Canada; my carrier is only 3G over AWS, which the Jolla doesn't support), but I also have it installed and working fine on my Nexus 4. | 23:13 |
| MobileRoey | also I see this periodically: | 23:13 |
| MobileRoey | CPU0: Cor temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 9976872) | 23:13 |
| keithzg | Hmm, well, worth checking what /var/log/nvidia-installer says but at this point you're probably not to worried about losing config files since they're clearly not working. | 23:13 |
| MobileRoey | on the console | 23:13 |
| MobileRoey | ah | 23:13 |
| MobileRoey | i figured | 23:14 |
| keithzg | Sounds like your case needs more fans ;) | 23:14 |
| MobileRoey | also it's install nvidia-304-updates | 23:14 |
| MobileRoey | 304 | 23:14 |
| MobileRoey | my 750ti needs 334 or higher | 23:14 |
| keithzg | Hrmm. | 23:14 |
| MobileRoey | that's why I started installing the proprietary crap. | 23:15 |
| MobileRoey | (answer: because I can't wait for the Ubuntusphere to take its sweet time) | 23:15 |
| keithzg | Well, to be clear these packages are still proprietary crap, just packaged in reasonable ways ;) | 23:15 |
| MobileRoey | heh so I hear :) | 23:15 |
| keithzg | Hrmm. You might be kindof out of luck then, if it's *that* bleeding-edge. Perhaps it's literally just NVIDIA bugs in the drivers themselves that you're running into. | 23:16 |
| MobileRoey | praps | 23:16 |
| MobileRoey | *perhaps | 23:16 |
| keithzg | There's nvidia-331 packages in vivid | 23:16 |
| keithzg | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=vivid&searchon=names&keywords=nvidia | 23:16 |
| MobileRoey | 331 is not new enough doesn't support 750ti | 23:16 |
| MobileRoey | in other words, x won't boot. | 23:17 |
| MobileRoey | I ask Vivid and he says...install proprietary drivers. | 23:17 |
| keithzg | Ouch. | 23:17 |
| MobileRoey | well | 23:17 |
| keithzg | Well no offense, but I think you might just be screwed for now :( | 23:17 |
| MobileRoey | that was yesterday in #nvidia. | 23:17 |
| MobileRoey | yeay | 23:17 |
| MobileRoey | fuck my l | 23:17 |
| MobileRoey | ya know what | 23:17 |
| MobileRoey | it's only a computer. | 23:18 |
| keithzg | ja | 23:18 |
| MobileRoey | (it doesn't make a satisfying noise until it crunches on the ground 16 floors below) | 23:18 |
| MobileRoey | god | 23:18 |
| MobileRoey | DAMN | 23:18 |
| MobileRoey | how effing long does it take to apt-get install this. | 23:18 |
| MobileRoey | EVERYTHING gets slow because of bad graphics card support, it seems. | 23:19 |
| keithzg | If it's failing at using GPU rendering and offloading a ton to CPU, yeah, that sadly makes sense. | 23:20 |
| MobileRoey | it;s still unpacking. I got out of X and it's still slow. | 23:21 |
| MobileRoey | btw I was on a TTY console | 23:21 |
| keithzg | Well, X is still chugging along in the background probably. | 23:22 |
| MobileRoey | I killed it. | 23:22 |
| keithzg | Fair enough, it's all boundless speculation on my part | 23:23 |
| MobileRoey | it's been at "unpacking nvidia-..." for the past five minutes. | 23:23 |
| keithzg | top is your friend! | 23:23 |
| MobileRoey | aye understood | 23:23 |
| MobileRoey | I know | 23:23 |
| soee | MobileRoey: this is not recommended, but | 23:23 |
| MobileRoey | dpkg is taking 100% cpu time. | 23:23 |
| MobileRoey | what, strace -p the process? | 23:23 |
| MobileRoey | maybe see if it's waiting on something? | 23:23 |
| soee | on 14.10 and now on 15.04-dev i am using the latest beta drivers from xorg-edgers ppa and its a HUGE performance jump compared to previous versions | 23:24 |
| MobileRoey | ok | 23:24 |
| MobileRoey | what's the deb line for it? | 23:24 |
| MobileRoey | for the edgers ppa | 23:24 |
| soee | huh ? | 23:24 |
| MobileRoey | I was asking for the source for the PPA | 23:24 |
| MobileRoey | maybe as a command | 23:25 |
| MobileRoey | add the edgers ppa deb source line | 23:25 |
| soee | https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 23:25 |
| MobileRoey | ah thanks!! | 23:25 |
| soee | but it is not recommended as i said :) | 23:25 |
| MobileRoey | ok | 23:25 |
| soee | but firs remove current drivers | 23:25 |
| MobileRoey | deb https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ? | 23:25 |
| soee | than install nvidia-346 | 23:25 |
| MobileRoey | ok. | 23:25 |
| MobileRoey | thank yo uso much | 23:26 |
| soee | MobileRoey: type in koncole: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa | 23:26 |
| MobileRoey | aha, that's exactly what I was looking for, thanks! | 23:26 |
| keithzg | soee: tiny correction, add-apt-repository, no? | 23:26 |
| keithzg | Oh, wait, both work | 23:27 |
| soee | yup :) | 23:27 |
| * keithzg just learned something, heh | 23:27 | |
| MobileRoey | heh | 23:27 |
| soee | i prefere apt-* because all othger commands starts like this and new apt update or apt full-upgrade | 23:27 |
| keithzg | Love that command, that's one of those simple-but-powerful things that makes Linux great. | 23:28 |
| MobileRoey | btw | 23:28 |
| MobileRoey | I appreciae your alls' fantastic English grammar. | 23:28 |
| MobileRoey | I enjoy reading good grammar when I see it. | 23:28 |
| keithzg | heh | 23:28 |
| valorie | !language | MobileRoey | 23:28 |
| ubottu | MobileRoey: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 23:28 |
| MobileRoey | and the way you hyphenated that simple-but-powerful is what signaled that to me | 23:28 |
| MobileRoey | oh | 23:29 |
| MobileRoey | Valorie!! | 23:29 |
| valorie | this is a family-friendly chan, my friend | 23:29 |
| MobileRoey | yes ma'am :) :) | 23:29 |
| valorie | would hate to have to quiet ya | 23:29 |
| keithzg | I always used "add-" because to me, conceptually, it was a specific *buntu thing rather than a facet of apt, but yeah, apt-* is the classic format so that makes sense. | 23:29 |
| * MobileRoey makes pouty face and such. | 23:29 | |
| MobileRoey | keithzg: wouldn't one try to cleave as close to Debian as they can though? | 23:30 |
| MobileRoey | the Debian style I mean. | 23:30 |
| MobileRoey | considering how Ubuntu bases itself off of Debian. | 23:30 |
| valorie | oooo, both add-apt- and apt-add work? | 23:31 |
| valorie | apt is magick | 23:31 |
| keithzg | Oh, sure, but the PPAs are specifically an *buntu thing and as such, add-apt-repository/apt-add-repository are things created and distributed by *buntu seperate from apt itself per se. | 23:31 |
| valorie | sure | 23:32 |
| keithzg | Hence, it's "software-properties-common" that provides the command(s) | 23:32 |
| keithzg | Just saying that's why I conceptually latched on to the add-apt variant, but it's definitely a good idea that both work! | 23:32 |
| MobileRoey | guys | 23:40 |
| MobileRoey | it -just now- finished installing that paciage. | 23:40 |
| MobileRoey | alrihgt, rebooting it now. | 23:40 |
| MobileRoey | I expect it not to work because it's 304 and not >= 334 | 23:40 |
| MobileRoey | also because God loves to see my plans foiled. | 23:40 |
| valorie | I dunno, my son is using kubuntu on his ultra-new gamer laptop because it is literally the only thing that will boot up | 23:42 |
| valorie | besides the windows it came with, natch | 23:42 |
| * MobileRoey grumbles | 23:42 | |
| valorie | he likes distro-hopping, and knows his stuff | 23:42 |
| MobileRoey | it takes like 10 seconds to get to the GRUB menu for some reason, | 23:42 |
| MobileRoey | and the rendering is so slow. | 23:42 |
| valorie | not a good sign | 23:42 |
| MobileRoey | console rendering | 23:42 |
| MobileRoey | ah, it put it into 80x25 now and it's fast. | 23:43 |
| MobileRoey | and....... | 23:43 |
| MobileRoey | ok now i see a huge mouse cursor | 23:43 |
| MobileRoey | and it does not extend to the 2nd or 3rd montior. It just stays confined to the first one. | 23:44 |
| MobileRoey | keithzg: ^ | 23:44 |
| valorie | do you have kscreen? | 23:44 |
| MobileRoey | kscreen what'st hat? | 23:44 |
| valorie | !info kscreen | 23:44 |
| ubottu | kscreen (source: kscreen): KDE monitor hotplug and screen handling. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.2.1-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 126 kB, installed size 846 kB | 23:44 |
| MobileRoey | it is installed, yes valorie | 23:44 |
| valorie | you should be able to access it in systemsettings | 23:44 |
| valorie | `apt-cache policy kscreen` | 23:45 |
| valorie | will tell ya | 23:45 |
| * keithzg has to run off, good to hear that things are coming along though MobileRoey, best of luck | 23:46 | |
| MobileRoey | valorie: well I checked with dpkg -l kscreen and it showed it installed; is there anything else that apt-cache policy shows? | 23:46 |
| MobileRoey | keithzg: thanks! | 23:46 |
| MobileRoey | thanks so much btw | 23:46 |
| * keithzg remembers having to use the nvidia-settings application to configure TwinView back in the day to get NVIDIA cards to extend to other monitors, but things should be better nowadays | 23:46 | |
| MobileRoey | aye | 23:47 |
| MobileRoey | well normaloy it works fine | 23:47 |
| MobileRoey | no magic needed | 23:47 |
| keithzg | MobileRoey: No problem, in fairness soee was the one who chimed in with the helpful solution here it seems ;) but it's always fun to help! Later. | 23:47 |
| MobileRoey | soee: and you too Soee, thak you very much for your help and emotional support | 23:47 |
| valorie | apt-cache policy shows the version you have compared with the latest available | 23:47 |
| MobileRoey | ah | 23:48 |
| MobileRoey | well ok | 23:48 |
| MobileRoey | I just did an upgrade from 14.04 -> 14.10, btw. | 23:48 |
| valorie | did you stick with lightdm or go with SDDM? | 23:48 |
| MobileRoey | I didn't know we had the vhoice | 23:49 |
| MobileRoey | soee: after adding that Edgers repo, I see that there is no nvidia-346.. | 23:50 |
| soee | yuo wont see it in Drivers Manager | 23:53 |
| soee | you have to install it manually | 23:53 |
| MobileRoey | yeah but from the command line | 23:54 |
| MobileRoey | I do sudo apt-get install nivdia-346 | 23:54 |
| MobileRoey | and it says it cannot find this package. | 23:54 |
| MobileRoey | soee: ^ | 23:54 |
| soee | MobileRoey: not nividia | 23:54 |
| soee | nvidia-346 | 23:54 |
| MobileRoey | oh? | 23:54 |
| MobileRoey | right. | 23:54 |
| MobileRoey | nvidia-346 I meant, sorry | 23:55 |
| MobileRoey | I tabbed after nvidia- and the highest patch level I saw listed is 331. | 23:55 |
| valorie | !info nvidia-346 | 23:55 |
| ubottu | Package nvidia-346 does not exist in utopic | 23:55 |
| MobileRoey | oh | 23:55 |
| soee | yuo should see it, did you run: sudo apt udpate ? | 23:55 |
| MobileRoey | no on the update | 23:55 |
| MobileRoey | which is what I just thought of | 23:55 |
| MobileRoey | aha :) | 23:55 |
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