[00:00] lordievader: hi [00:00] surfs^: I cannot run it in a VMware VM, so it is not ready for me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/1362631 though the upstream bug is claimed to be fixed https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340966 [00:00] Launchpad bug 1362631 in open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) "Enter Full Screen Mode crashes Plasma Next Desktop in Kubuntu 14.10 and Daily Build of 15.04" [Undecided,New] [00:00] KDE bug 340966 in general "Plasma 5 crashes maximizing VMware Player" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] [00:00] lordievader: the problem dont exist now!! [00:01] lordievader: on Kubuntu 14.04 the amd catalyst downloaded form AMD site, work! [00:02] lordievader: the buttons: restart, shutdown and logout works normally now. And de Mixer controll too!!! [00:02] lordievader: lordievader_: thank you very much! [00:04] lordievader: Ah, i instaled the AMD Catalyst 14.9(fglrx 14.301) form site [00:05] Nice! Thanks for the feedback. [00:05] surfs^: me? === Yukinotteru is now known as Dhs92 === Dhs92 is now known as Yukitteru [00:15] the AMD Catalyst 14.9(fglrx 14.301) form site dont work on Kubuntu 14.10 [00:15] the fglrx form repo, dont work on 14.10 too [00:16] on Dell Inpiron 5447 - Brazillian version [00:16] with hybrid graphics [00:16] Intel HD and AMD Radeon R7 M265 [00:37] heyl... KDE didn't start up for me once I upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10. I moved ~/.kde aside and ran startx, letting KDE re-start. It did. How can I diagnose what's wrong with my ~/.kde then? [00:40] hi? anyone here?? [00:45] MobileRoey: have patience :D [00:46] I'm frustrated beyond belief :( [00:46] I meant :) but it came out :( my bad [00:46] kavaco: it infuriates me that I can NEVER do a do-release-upgrade -d without something messing up and causing some showstopper issue. [00:46] every.single.time. [00:46] I cringe at having to upgrade [00:47] :D [00:47] your KDE is working now? [00:47] with a new .kde directory? [00:48] yeah but startup is super super super slow. [00:48] I killed that effing baloo indexer once I found it was using 100% cpu. [00:49] so I was wondering if I should slice-and-dice between the new .kde and my original .kde in hopes of finding the core of the issue [00:53] you have a guest user? [00:53] hrm. [00:53] checking.. [00:54] normally I should.. [00:55] login with the guest user, and compare [00:55] ok. [00:55] ohhhhhhhhhhhh [00:55] is it systemd? [00:55] is that what's messing thisup? [00:55] I added a guest user with useradd [00:55] then ran passwd on it to give it a password [00:56] logging in, i see error messages from stem-login. [00:56] er [00:56] systemd-login [00:56] Failed to start unit user@1001.service: Unknown unit: user@10001.service [00:56] systemd-logind[332]: Failed to start user service: Unknown unit: user@1001.service [00:57] No directory, lgging in with HOME:/ [00:57] er? [00:57] useradd is different than adduser, that I know. [00:57] but which one's which. [00:57] argh. [00:58] useradd it was then. [00:58] ok, re-created guest user and logged into it. [00:59] its ok? [00:59] is it slow? [00:59] GAH [00:59] GAH? [01:00] adduser DID create a /home/guest, but when I try logging into the guest user, I still get "No directory, logging in with HOME=/"; [01:00] I have no permission to /home/aux apparently [01:00] as the guest user. [01:01] kavaco: ^ [01:01] the permissions seem fine on it, I just cannot cd into it. [01:01] for some reason. === Sp00ky_ is now known as Sp00ky === Sp00ky is now known as Sp00ky_ [01:03] kavaco: yeah, I get "permission denied" when I try to CD into ~aux [01:03] ? why? [01:04] what's user name? [01:04] and directory? [01:04] au [01:04] aux [01:05] direcotry /home/aux [01:05] BRB phone === Sp00ky_ is now known as sp00ky [01:05] sudo usermod -d /home/aux aux [01:05] try this [01:06] but you do it with the admin user === sp00ky is now known as sp00ky_ === sp00ky_ is now known as Sp00ky_ [01:07] and be patience, i dont speak english very well :D [03:46] im trying to get kmail configured and so far i got incoming messages but cant sendany one have any ideas? [03:47] kmail just puts it inthe out box with no error mssage [03:49] smtp servers missing? [03:50] i thought i ha the info in there right but who knows [05:35] HI [05:36] how to repair "??????????" names on usb flash. Opened by Dolphin and Kubuntu 12.04? === blubberbop is now known as phoenixz [05:39] vros: you either have no rights to the files or the filesystem is broken [05:40] Tm_T, how to config that? [05:41] vros: dolphin should tell who "owns" the files === kevin is now known as Guest74750 [05:41] vros: also the folder where the files in should be checked [05:42] all to root [05:44] all mounted as root but I not use root before [05:48] vros: have you used sudo at some point? [05:48] related to that usb flash [05:51] this is no cyrylik names, but also "?????" and mounted as root [05:52] it is for all usb's [06:06] hm))) it mount as on Server [06:09] Good morning. [06:09] kavaco: Good to hear you fixed your issue. === Yukitteru is now known as Yukinotteru === turgay_ is now known as turgay [08:56] hmm dont got the folder /usr/include/linux headers are installed [08:56] any ideas === ed is now known as Guest9318 === ksinny_ is now known as ksinny === administrator is now known as keyonce04 [12:15] hi [12:17] o/ [12:17] good morning [12:19] Good afternoon ;) [12:20] what? [12:21] keyonce04: i18n ;) [12:23] what does that mean [12:24] keyonce04: Google it ;) [12:24] ok [12:24] i will be back [12:27] Hiyas all === sphinx is now known as Guest99505 [13:58] Greetings, I am looking for help to turn off my computer. [13:58] After installing KDM, none of the Leave buttons work, these are: Log Out, Restart, ShutDown [13:58] and Sleep [13:58] Would anyone know how to fix this_ [13:59] ? [14:04] diego__, try sudo reboot to reboot or sudo halt to power down [14:04] update and upgrade first tho [14:19] BluesKaj: Thank you. === Fritigern is now known as Fritigern_AFK [14:51] BluesKaj: Your suggestion did do the trick. After that, Restarting goes as expected. Something got fixed in the middle. Cheers. [14:52] diego__, good to hear :) [15:02] what's a good GUI text editor with formatting? [15:02] toothe: Kate? [15:02] Kate, SublimeText [15:26] why am i having this "tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1484/master " when i dont' have any service(am assuming mail server which is actually on another box) running on port 25 [15:28] oquidave: What does 'ps -p 1484' return? [15:29] lordievader: seen it, it is postfix!! [15:30] perhaps you installed something recently that had postfix as a dependency [15:30] and just pressed Y [15:30] checking the dpkg/apt log should reveal the truth [15:35] hateball thanks [15:36] 'aptitude why' can be helpful when trying to figure out why something got installed [16:10] hi there, on my notebook I usually have two external monitors. One is vga and other is hdmi. Now, if I accidentally disconnect the hdmi one and reconnect it, all is fine. However if I accidentally disconnect the vga one and reconnect it, KDE doesn't recognize it anymore. Also it won't show up in the systemsettings -> Monitor configuration tool [17:36] hey, using 11.10 and would like to install 2.x kernel [17:36] can someone help [17:36] tried to build but it fails [17:38] znc-: You do know 11.10 has been EOL for ages? But what do you run into? [17:38] yes [17:39] what you mean by run itno hmm [17:39] znc-: You say it fails, on what does it fail? [17:39] oki [17:40] http://pastebin.com/EP6EHXKm [17:41] znc-: Make that command "sudo make menuconfig" ;) [17:41] oki [17:41] znc-: Reading the error usually tells you what to do. [17:43] lordievader: sounds like Gentoo [17:43] http://pastebin.com/XSVDiiKp [17:43] denysonique: Compiling kernels? Can be done anywhere ;) [17:45] znc-: Do you have ncurses-dev installed? [17:45] dont know [17:45] should I try to install it [17:46] znc-: Also, could you provide the full output of the last make command? [17:46] what make exactlz [17:46] this was sudo make menuconfig [17:47] Was it all? [17:47] yes [17:47] Hmm... [17:48] I suppose you can use the 'oldconfig' if it still doesn't work after installing the ncurses headers. [17:49] oki first I will try to install ncurses-dev and repeat this right [17:50] ncurses-dev installed [17:52] outptut changed http://pastebin.com/Msssa5Ps but still fails [17:52] hmm [17:53] sudo make oldconfig also failing [17:53] Where did you get the kernel from? [17:53] kernel.org [17:53] https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ [17:53] here [17:54] hmm [17:54] znc-: Your folder says 2.6.5... kernel.org has 2.6.32... [17:54] youre right I see its rather old [17:54] 2004 whops [17:56] I will try with a newer 2.6.32 yeah [17:58] hi there, on my notebook I usually have two external monitors. One is vga and other is hdmi. Now, if I accidentally disconnect the hdmi one and reconnect it, all is fine. However if I accidentally disconnect the vga one and reconnect it, KDE doesn't recognize it anymore. Also it won't show up in the systemsettings -> Monitor configuration tool [18:06] does anyone recommend a text-editor that can do format highlighting? [18:16] toothe: Vim :D [18:19] vim is for command-line [18:19] That's right ;) [18:34] lordievader: hi [18:34] o/ [18:34] lordievader: see my feedback yesterday? [18:35] Jup, replied to it too ;) [18:36] Jup? [18:37] J pronounced ya [18:38] i dont undertand, but, its ok :D [18:38] kavaco_: It is probably very dutch, means something along the lines of yes/yeah ;) [18:40] similar to redneck amaerican's yep [18:41] Jup :P [18:41] ah, understand now! [18:41] similar to brazilian's "blz" [18:43] ok [18:44] the kubuntu 14.04 dont work with amd catalyst from repo, but work with a amd catalyst form amd site. [18:44] its perfect! [18:46] lordievader: but the execution is not this happening normally. necessary to install some packages before running the script. [18:47] kavaco_: What are you talking about? [18:47] amd catalyst driver [18:47] from amd site [18:48] remeber? the restart, shutdown and logout buttons dont working yesterday... [18:49] and same menus in a windows... [18:49] kavaco_: Yes, but running what isn't happening like normal? And what was necessary to install? [18:49] i installed the amd catalyst from site [18:49] sudo apt-get install gcc dh-modaliases execstack dpkg-dev debhelper dkms lib32gcc1 [18:49] this [18:50] That makes sense. [18:50] lordievader: the script is not shown erros, but it was possible to see the log. [18:51] In other words you installed dkms + build-essential ;) [18:51] :D [18:58] i ran the steam games now [19:02] how to install the lamp-server on kubuntu? [19:04] kavaco_: apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5 ? [19:05] and common plugins PHP and Apache [19:06] on Mageia, i can install lamp package [19:06] but, its ok [19:06] kavaco_: Here probably too, I just like doing things by hand ;) [19:07] kubuntu/ubuntu dont have a lamp package, i think [19:08] Muon dont shown === melter_ is now known as melter [19:44] znc-: Did you succeed with the kernel from kernel.org? [19:55] lordievader on the run got into menuconfig and now running sudo mae [19:55] make [19:55] znc-: why are you doing this [19:56] I read about to use an older kernel to compile something else [19:56] wanted try that [19:56] the kernel you are running shouldn't have any impact on compiling anything [19:56] ikonia maybe it will not help but lets see [19:56] dont know [19:56] you're basically out of luck in this channel as 1.) 11.10 is out of support/dead 2.) this channel isn't here to take it further out of support [19:56] znc-: you should know before you try [19:57] as you will cause problems on your already unsupported system [19:57] usually sudo isn't needed for thew make command , only for make install [19:57] sudo for make is actually a security risk [19:58] yes doint it by tutorial where its so described [19:58] http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/how-to-compile-and-install-linux-kernel-3-0-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-and-10-04/ [19:59] znc-: seems to me like a.) a terrible guide b.) a terrible idea [20:01] lol [20:06] hmm yes maybe its really not the best ideo sudoing the make [20:06] sudo make install should be fine [20:06] btw it failed === kevin is now known as Guest87131 [20:06] znc-: this is not a good move [20:06] znc-: and outside the scope of this channel [20:06] what exactly [20:07] compiling a kernel === Yukinotteru is now known as Dhs92 [20:08] znc-: a.) 11.10 - unsupported b.) custom kernels [20:09] so I dont may ask for here otherwise banned or so [20:09] hmm [20:09] lets not get dramatic [20:09] there is no need to ban you [20:09] so its ok but you dont like that [20:09] it's not ok [20:10] it's basically outside the scope of this channel (I strongly advise you not to do it - it's a very bad idea) [20:10] understand you but where should i ask instead [20:10] znc-: Why was it again that you needed 11.10? [20:11] because I wanted to build something old and wanted to simulate the circumstances from the old [20:22] znc-: why do you need a newer kernel then, though? [20:23] keithzg hmm [20:23] its an older [20:29] better say got a 3.x and want to get a 2.x one that way dont know the release dates maybe theyre crossed === ryszard is now known as Guest82519 [21:15] hi - the plasma5 tech demo disk - does that upgrade to latest plasma 5 or is the version static ? (i.e not upgradable?) [21:16] i.e - if I install the plasma5 iso then apt-get upgrade it will it have plasma 5.1.1 ? https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.1.1.php [21:20] i.e the plasma 5 .iso is it just a snapshot of where plasma5 was in Oct 2014 or is it current ? [21:21] Guest35833: The iso is a snapshot yes. [21:22] The ppa it uses is another thing though. [21:28] lordievader: so if I install normal 14.10 - then add ppa that is current [21:28] this one - ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next ? [21:30] Guest35833: Err, I'm not entirely sure. But I think that is the one. [21:30] Should end up with the same. [21:32] lordievader: thanks - been meaning to try plasma5 for a while... [21:33] (may ever find a bug or 2 to report..) [21:33] *even* [21:35] Guest35833: \o/ === andrej is now known as Guest95898 [22:12] Hello All :) [22:12] kubuntu 14.04.1 running awesome, new install here. [22:15] geek83: good to hear ! [22:15] yes ty tried a lot ubuntu distro's, kubuntu best so far [22:15] gnome-ubuntu as well [22:50] any good alternative to Gwenview === Dhs92 is now known as Yukitteru [22:55] alket: why is it bad ? [22:56] i think gwenview rox [22:56] actually its nice but I have some problem which bothers me [22:56] its that I have to do CTRL + Scroll to zoom [22:57] I need just to mouse scroll to zoom :) [22:58] change shortcuts ? :) [22:59] stupid me [22:59] thanks soee [23:00] hi [23:00] hey MobileRoey [23:00] I can't seem to get acceleration working with the proprietary NVidia drivers. Can anyone help? NOT #nvidia btw I asked there already. Thanks! [23:00] oh hey soee [23:00] do you have one card or 2 ? [23:01] one [23:01] and why do you think you cant make it work ? [23:01] 1) slow in drawing [23:01] 2) no desktop effects [23:02] though... glxinfo | grep irect says 'yes' [23:02] oh, and glxgears only gives me ~50 FPS [23:02] this is a Geforce 750Ti card on a Q6600 system [23:02] so it's not exactly slow. [23:02] MobileRoey: How have you installed the drivers? [23:02] yes I did. [23:02] oh [23:02] /how/ [23:02] heh [23:02] I used the proprietary instlaler [23:03] sudo sh NVI*.bin [23:03] * keithzg sighs [23:03] please don't :P [23:03] fuck nvidia btw. Linus was right. [23:03] nothing [23:03] gives me as much hassle as NVidia drivers. [23:03] Yeahhh. I've been there. [23:03] keithzg: heh [23:03] keithzg: are there NVidia debs? [23:04] that arenot old? [23:04] Yeah it's all in the repo. [23:04] ah ok. [23:04] what is it called? [23:04] (and not nouveau!) [23:04] nvidia-current [23:04] ok [23:04] what kbuntu version are you running ? [23:04] Or nvidia-current-updates for the newer ones, depending. [23:05] soee: 14.10 [23:05] You can also try just using the Driver Manager (should be found quickly by searching the launcher or krunner). [23:05] MobileRoey: go to System Settings -> Drivers [23:05] and pick recommended, it will instal for you [23:05] apt-get update && apt-get install nvidia-current-updates [23:05] ya? [23:06] k [23:06] Naw I'd second what soee says. [23:06] I would but the graphics are too slow to redraw [23:06] oh, [23:06] also, [23:06] the console is set to this really squished font [23:06] and the redraw is SSSSLLLLLLLOOOOOWWWW [23:06] omg. [23:06] It'll install from the repos, as if you had done so manually, but I think it also then it does the post-config which it might not otherwise. [23:06] What's your X.org conf like? [23:06] ok [23:06] I let nvidia write me one [23:07] Could you throw it into a paste? Although it's honestly worth just uninstalling the drivers first and then re-installing using System Settings -> Drivers as soee mentions. [23:07] That's the way that *should* work. [23:08] ok [23:09] also, mujst I get out of X when installing these, as I must with the proprietary installer? === rodolfojcj_ is now known as rodolfojcj [23:10] Naw [23:10] ooh ok. [23:10] One of the advantages the Kubuntu way has over the NVIDIA way :P [23:10] -updates is more current than nvidia-current, right? [23:10] :) yeah, I appreciate it. [23:11] Package management FTW. [23:11] * MobileRoey fondles his package manager fondly. [23:11] <-- long time fan of apt [23:12] Yeah that's the only thing I don't like about the idea of switching away from my trusty old Nokia N9. === Fritigern_AFK is now known as fritigern === fritigern is now known as Fritigern [23:12] WARNING: Failed to restore some backed up files/symlinks, and/or their attributes. See /var/log//nvidia-installer for details [23:12] Well, there are other things, but mostly SailfishOS takes care of them. [23:12] ah [23:12] jolla phone? [23:13] ja, although I can't use one in my country (Canada; my carrier is only 3G over AWS, which the Jolla doesn't support), but I also have it installed and working fine on my Nexus 4. [23:13] also I see this periodically: [23:13] CPU0: Cor temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 9976872) [23:13] Hmm, well, worth checking what /var/log/nvidia-installer says but at this point you're probably not to worried about losing config files since they're clearly not working. [23:13] on the console [23:13] ah [23:14] i figured [23:14] Sounds like your case needs more fans ;) [23:14] also it's install nvidia-304-updates [23:14] 304 [23:14] my 750ti needs 334 or higher [23:14] Hrmm. [23:15] that's why I started installing the proprietary crap. [23:15] (answer: because I can't wait for the Ubuntusphere to take its sweet time) [23:15] Well, to be clear these packages are still proprietary crap, just packaged in reasonable ways ;) [23:15] heh so I hear :) [23:16] Hrmm. You might be kindof out of luck then, if it's *that* bleeding-edge. Perhaps it's literally just NVIDIA bugs in the drivers themselves that you're running into. [23:16] praps [23:16] *perhaps [23:16] There's nvidia-331 packages in vivid [23:16] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=vivid&searchon=names&keywords=nvidia [23:16] 331 is not new enough doesn't support 750ti [23:17] in other words, x won't boot. [23:17] I ask Vivid and he says...install proprietary drivers. [23:17] Ouch. [23:17] well [23:17] Well no offense, but I think you might just be screwed for now :( [23:17] that was yesterday in #nvidia. [23:17] yeay [23:17] fuck my l [23:17] ya know what [23:18] it's only a computer. [23:18] ja [23:18] (it doesn't make a satisfying noise until it crunches on the ground 16 floors below) [23:18] god [23:18] DAMN [23:18] how effing long does it take to apt-get install this. [23:19] EVERYTHING gets slow because of bad graphics card support, it seems. [23:20] If it's failing at using GPU rendering and offloading a ton to CPU, yeah, that sadly makes sense. [23:21] it;s still unpacking. I got out of X and it's still slow. [23:21] btw I was on a TTY console [23:22] Well, X is still chugging along in the background probably. [23:22] I killed it. [23:23] Fair enough, it's all boundless speculation on my part [23:23] it's been at "unpacking nvidia-..." for the past five minutes. [23:23] top is your friend! [23:23] aye understood [23:23] I know [23:23] MobileRoey: this is not recommended, but [23:23] dpkg is taking 100% cpu time. [23:23] what, strace -p the process? [23:23] maybe see if it's waiting on something? [23:24]