| dholbach | good morning | 08:39 |
|---|---|---|
| dholbach | hey dpm | 09:02 |
| dholbach | it's the Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day | 09:03 |
| * dholbach goes and writes a blog entry | 09:03 | |
| dpm | morning dholbach | 09:05 |
| * czajkowski appreciates you all | 09:11 | |
| dholbach | dpm, popey: I'm going to be offline for half an hour - I need to replace my laptop display - let's all cross fingers and hope that it's fine and back to normal afterwards again | 11:00 |
| popey | good luck! | 11:00 |
| dholbach | thanks :) | 11:00 |
| dpm | dholbach, good luck! | 11:00 |
| popey | cut the red wire | 11:00 |
| dholbach | haha | 11:00 |
| dholbach | it wasn't the display cable - I replaced that a week or two ago already | 11:01 |
| dholbach | then I ordered a new display which they sent to the wrong address, or the postman got confused | 11:01 |
| dholbach | now I hope that after 3-4 weeks of display weirdness I have a working laptop again :) | 11:01 |
| dholbach | success | 11:24 |
| popey | \o/ | 11:25 |
| * popey adds "Hardware Engineer" to dholbach's skills matrix | 11:25 | |
| dholbach | yeehaw :) | 11:27 |
| czajkowski | lol | 11:27 |
| * dholbach relocates, brb | 12:17 | |
| popey | dholbach: https://plus.google.com/u/0/100659093975814540586/posts/b6aP9nUTRmT | 12:36 |
| popey | can you get rid of that? | 12:36 |
| popey | I am not a moderator of that team for some reason. | 12:36 |
| dholbach | I'm not quite sure how to do that | 12:37 |
| dholbach | all right, removed | 12:38 |
| dholbach | G+ admin interfaces are quite hard to use | 12:39 |
| popey | there's a moderator page | 12:39 |
| dholbach | yeah, I'm trying to see if I can add you | 12:39 |
| popey | in there you can go through approving/rejecting | 12:39 |
| popey | i dont think you can, maybe only jono can | 12:39 |
| dholbach | popey, ok found it | 12:40 |
| dholbach | popey, you should be a moderator now | 12:40 |
| popey | MUHAHAHAAHAHAAH! | 12:41 |
| popey | I mean, thanks. | 12:41 |
| dholbach | enjoy | 12:41 |
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| mhall119 | remember popey, with great power comes a great number of work items that nobody else wants to do | 12:55 |
| jcastro | mhall119, what are my options if my ubuntu touch device stopped showing up in `adb devices`? | 19:51 |
| jcastro | all the release notes seem to be for 13.10? | 19:59 |
| popey | jcastro: unplug, re-plug | 20:04 |
| popey | jcastro: system settings -> about phone, make sure developer mode is on | 20:04 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: you need developer mode on (as popey said) and the device unlocked | 20:07 |
| jcastro | yep, checked all that | 20:07 |
| mhall119 | did you unplug-replug? | 20:07 |
| popey | is the phone actually unlocked? | 20:07 |
| jcastro | yes, and reboot | 20:07 |
| jcastro | yes, it's running ubuntu touch | 20:08 |
| popey | i.e. not at the pin lock screen? | 20:08 |
| popey | no, not that kind of unlocked | 20:08 |
| popey | get it to the dash | 20:08 |
| jcastro | oh, so unlock it then plug it back in? | 20:08 |
| popey | or leave plugged in | 20:08 |
| mhall119 | or plug it in and then unlock it | 20:08 |
| popey | but unlock it, yes | 20:08 |
| popey | security yo | 20:08 |
| mhall119 | basically, adb only works when we are confident that the owner is in posession of the device, so it needs to have a PIN (or passphrase) and they had to enter that to unlock it | 20:08 |
| jcastro | nope | 20:09 |
| jcastro | still blank | 20:09 |
| mhall119 | have you tried a hammer? | 20:09 |
| popey | what version you running? | 20:09 |
| jcastro | 14.10 r243 | 20:09 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: does it open a Nautilus window and show you the MTP folders? (Documents, Music, etc) | 20:09 |
| jcastro | no, it doesn't | 20:09 |
| jcastro | nothing in dmesg either | 20:09 |
| popey | flip developer mode off then on again | 20:09 |
| mhall119 | then it's not making a connection | 20:10 |
| popey | broken cable? | 20:10 |
| mhall119 | try a different USB cable | 20:10 |
| popey | r243!? | 20:10 |
| jcastro | cable and port work fine, already tried that | 20:10 |
| popey | how did you manage that? | 20:10 |
| * popey is on 14.10 r137 | 20:10 | |
| mhall119 | popey: I know, that's from like 2014-10 | 20:10 |
| popey | which channel? | 20:10 |
| jcastro | I was running it all cycle | 20:10 |
| jcastro | and then one day it stopped updating | 20:10 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: yeah, probably old devel channel, you should switch to RTM | 20:11 |
| popey | bet you're on trusty | 20:11 |
| jcastro | oh, it still shows up as utopic dev | 20:11 |
| jcastro | mhall119, how do I do that? | 20:11 |
| jcastro | I just want to run whatever the best one is | 20:11 |
| mhall119 | ubuntu-device-flash -something something | 20:11 |
| mhall119 | popey knows | 20:11 |
| popey | ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel-proposed | 20:11 |
| jcastro | from the device itself? | 20:11 |
| popey | no | 20:11 |
| popey | via usb | 20:11 |
| mhall119 | no no, don't put him on proposed | 20:11 |
| popey | 20:11:27 < jcastro> I just want to run whatever the best one is | 20:11 |
| popey | proposed == best | 20:12 |
| popey | :þ | 20:12 |
| mhall119 | no it's not | 20:12 |
| popey | lies | 20:12 |
| mhall119 | proposed == newest | 20:12 |
| jcastro | well, if it can't find it on usb | 20:12 |
| popey | newest == best | 20:12 |
| jcastro | then I can't flash it | 20:12 |
| jcastro | anyway to do it from the device itself? | 20:12 |
| mhall119 | yeah, you need to sort your USB connection first | 20:12 |
| popey | yeah, you can do it from the device | 20:12 |
| popey | in the terminal | 20:12 |
| popey | but I'd flip dev mode off/on first | 20:12 |
| mhall119 | what a concept, eg? | 20:12 |
| popey | might be broken adb on your pc | 20:13 |
| jcastro | flipping does nothing | 20:13 |
| popey | kill adbd | 20:13 |
| popey | on pc | 20:13 |
| popey | then unplug/replug, run adb devices | 20:13 |
| mhall119 | if it's not making an MTP connection, it's probably a physical problem, not adb | 20:13 |
| popey | also, usb cable | 20:13 |
| jcastro | if it's physical it's the phone, I've tested everything else | 20:13 |
| popey | it's not a "charging only" cable is it? | 20:13 |
| jcastro | no | 20:13 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: have you tried juju deploy fix-my-phone? | 20:14 |
| popey | I have one of them, burned it | 20:14 |
| popey | so yeah, kill adbd first | 20:14 |
| popey | killall adb | 20:14 |
| popey | adb devices | 20:14 |
| jcastro | did that already, still blank | 20:14 |
| jcastro | is it easy to upgrade from the device? | 20:14 |
| popey | yeah, if you can type well | 20:15 |
| popey | system-image-cli -c ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 -b 0 | 20:15 |
| popey | do that in terminal | 20:15 |
| jcastro | !!! | 20:16 |
| jcastro | dude, I had a zombie adb process | 20:16 |
| popey | there we go | 20:16 |
| jcastro | so I had to -9 | 20:16 |
| jcastro | not just normal kill | 20:16 |
| popey | happens | 20:16 |
| jcastro | ok | 20:16 |
| jcastro | now to rewipe it with the latest bling? | 20:16 |
| jcastro | I have to show it off at a talk tonight | 20:16 |
| popey | you dont have to wipe | 20:16 |
| jcastro | so nothing too crazy | 20:16 |
| popey | adb shell | 20:17 |
| popey | system-image-cli -c ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 -b 0 | 20:17 |
| popey | leave it alone... | 20:17 |
| jcastro | ack | 20:17 |
| popey | oh, might need sudo ☻ | 20:17 |
| popey | you get more feedback if you use ubuntu-device-flash on your laptop though | 20:18 |
| popey | ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 | 20:18 |
| jcastro | well too late, heh | 20:18 |
| popey | nvm | 20:19 |
| jcastro | how long should I give it, 15min or so? | 20:19 |
| popey | it'll take a while | 20:19 |
| popey | adb shell in and you'll see ubuntu-download process | 20:19 |
| popey | meaning "yay" | 20:19 |
| jcastro | popey, is it a good idea to cancel it and do it from the laptop? | 20:22 |
| jcastro | it's atomic right? :) | 20:22 |
| popey | ya | 20:23 |
| popey | its fine | 20:23 |
| popey | you can always restart it if it hasn't rebooted into the update | 20:23 |
| jcastro | so was I on some old crufty devel release from like months ago? | 20:25 |
| jcastro | popey, do I answer yes or no for disabling recovery flash? | 20:32 |
| jcastro | popey, mhall119: holy crap, this is waaaaay better than what I was running before! | 20:38 |
| popey | hah | 20:38 |
| czajkowski | gah stupid web client messed up my reply | 20:38 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: welcome to the future :) | 20:41 |
| jcastro | yeah then I ran into popey's RMS app | 20:42 |
| popey | :D | 20:42 |
| mhall119 | what happened to the jono one? we need that back | 20:48 |
| jcastro | popey, your youtube app is <3 | 20:48 |
| popey | heh | 20:49 |
| popey | put some music on your device | 20:49 |
| popey | if you haven't already | 20:49 |
| popey | make sure you have artwork too. | 20:49 |
| jcastro | no one's done spotify yet? | 20:50 |
| popey | yes, someone has | 20:50 |
| popey | but there's a platform issue with playing audio in the background | 20:50 |
| jcastro | oh | 20:50 |
| popey | the problem is because spotify has a binary blob for doing the streaming | 20:51 |
| jcastro | nod | 20:51 |
| ahayzen | popey, are they waiting for background playlists as well? or does the music get cut as soon as it minimises ? | 20:51 |
| popey | also, put a couple of trailers on your phone | 20:51 |
| jcastro | does the normal music app have that problem? | 20:51 |
| popey | ahayzen: no, its because of the blob | 20:51 |
| popey | no, jcastro | 20:51 |
| ahayzen | popey, ah | 20:51 |
| popey | jcastro: ahayzen is one of the music app devs :D | 20:52 |
| ahayzen | o/ | 20:52 |
| popey | Community \m/ | 20:52 |
| jcastro | rawk! | 20:52 |
| jcastro | ok I just need to find local music | 20:52 |
| jcastro | I'll dig into one of my backups | 20:52 |
| jcastro | I don't think I've kept local music around for years, heh | 20:52 |
| popey | yeah, a backup, right ☻ | 20:52 |
| popey | internet backups | 20:52 |
| jcastro | no seriously, I no longer do local music | 20:52 |
| popey | me too | 20:53 |
| popey | I'm all over spotify | 20:53 |
| jcastro | oh cool, I can just drag and drop into this folder here | 20:53 |
| jcastro | bling bling | 20:53 |
| popey | interestingly two of the spotify developers hang out in the ubuntu touch channel ㋛ | 20:53 |
| jcastro | man, music works awesome | 20:58 |
| jcastro | just copied stuff over, done | 20:58 |
| jcastro | hey so, if I put pink floyd in music, shouldn't searching for "floyd" in the main scope show results? | 20:58 |
| jcastro | oh I see, drag over one for the music scope | 20:59 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: yeah, there is no "Home" scope in Unity 8 anymore | 21:01 |
| jcastro | ok, booted with my sim in it | 21:01 |
| jcastro | I am committed now! | 21:02 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: want to see something slick though? | 21:02 |
| jcastro | show me </morpheus> | 21:03 |
| jcastro | man, the notifications are so slick now | 21:03 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: from anywhere in the dash, swipe up from the bottom edge to enter the dash manager | 21:03 |
| mhall119 | then use the search icon in the top-right corner and search for "Pink Floyd" | 21:03 |
| belkinsa | OMG. Thank you, mhall119! | 21:04 |
| mhall119 | belkinsa: not at all, it's well deserved | 21:04 |
| jcastro | ooh | 21:05 |
| belkinsa | You made my day. | 21:05 |
| mhall119 | :) | 21:05 |
| jcastro | ok so is there no contacts scope? | 21:05 |
| jcastro | let's say I want to call jill | 21:05 |
| mhall119 | belkinsa: I do want to get involved with Ubuntu Leadership team, but I've got to finish porting developer.ubuntu.com to Django :( | 21:06 |
| jcastro | this looks it up on like wikipedia, etc. | 21:06 |
| jcastro | not my phone | 21:06 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: yeah, no contacts/people scope | 21:06 |
| mhall119 | that was dropped a *long* time ago | 21:06 |
| jcastro | ok so how do you call/text someone? | 21:06 |
| belkinsa | mhall119, I think it will take time for the Leadership Team to get off the ground. But I think with the help of the CC and the mentoring program, it may be seeon. | 21:06 |
| belkinsa | soon* | 21:06 |
| jcastro | drill down in the messaging or phone app? | 21:06 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: use the dialer or messaging app | 21:06 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: or look the person up in the address book app, and then choose to call or text them | 21:07 |
| mhall119 | I wonder if we'll see the people scope agian, now that the API is improved and C++ scopes are fast | 21:08 |
| jcastro | yeah I tend to use the person as the top org unit | 21:10 |
| jcastro | and then choose msg or call | 21:10 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: use the addressbook app then | 21:10 |
| jcastro | the google sync thing is pretty sweet | 21:11 |
| mhall119 | yeah, that was a huge pain to get working, but now that it does it's awesome | 21:15 |
| mhall119 | alarms too | 21:15 |
| jcastro | mhall119, one more thing | 22:30 |
| jcastro | the home circle activity thing still says no sources | 22:30 |
| jcastro | do I need to set it up? | 22:30 |
| mhall119 | the what now? | 22:41 |
| ahayzen | mhall119, the infographic on the 'welcome screen' | 23:09 |
| popey | that may be a bug | 23:47 |
| popey | i filed one for it | 23:47 |
| popey | jcastro: no, you don't it should have music, texts, calls, etc, if no, it's a bug | 23:47 |
| popey | bug 1359022 | 23:48 |
| ubot2 | bug 1359022 in libusermetrics (Ubuntu) "Welcome screen on image #200 always states that there are no data sources available" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1359022 | 23:48 |
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