[08:39] good morning [09:02] hey dpm [09:03] it's the Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day [09:03] * dholbach goes and writes a blog entry [09:05] morning dholbach [09:11] * czajkowski appreciates you all [11:00] dpm, popey: I'm going to be offline for half an hour - I need to replace my laptop display - let's all cross fingers and hope that it's fine and back to normal afterwards again [11:00] good luck! [11:00] thanks :) [11:00] dholbach, good luck! [11:00] cut the red wire [11:00] haha [11:01] it wasn't the display cable - I replaced that a week or two ago already [11:01] then I ordered a new display which they sent to the wrong address, or the postman got confused [11:01] now I hope that after 3-4 weeks of display weirdness I have a working laptop again :) [11:24] success [11:25] \o/ [11:25] * popey adds "Hardware Engineer" to dholbach's skills matrix [11:27] yeehaw :) [11:27] lol [12:17] * dholbach relocates, brb [12:36] dholbach: https://plus.google.com/u/0/100659093975814540586/posts/b6aP9nUTRmT [12:36] can you get rid of that? [12:36] I am not a moderator of that team for some reason. [12:37] I'm not quite sure how to do that [12:38] all right, removed [12:39] G+ admin interfaces are quite hard to use [12:39] there's a moderator page [12:39] yeah, I'm trying to see if I can add you [12:39] in there you can go through approving/rejecting [12:39] i dont think you can, maybe only jono can [12:40] popey, ok found it [12:40] popey, you should be a moderator now [12:41] MUHAHAHAAHAHAAH! [12:41] I mean, thanks. [12:41] enjoy === ara is now known as Guest1529 [12:55] remember popey, with great power comes a great number of work items that nobody else wants to do [19:51] mhall119, what are my options if my ubuntu touch device stopped showing up in `adb devices`? [19:59] all the release notes seem to be for 13.10? [20:04] jcastro: unplug, re-plug [20:04] jcastro: system settings -> about phone, make sure developer mode is on [20:07] jcastro: you need developer mode on (as popey said) and the device unlocked [20:07] yep, checked all that [20:07] did you unplug-replug? [20:07] is the phone actually unlocked? [20:07] yes, and reboot [20:08] yes, it's running ubuntu touch [20:08] i.e. not at the pin lock screen? [20:08] no, not that kind of unlocked [20:08] get it to the dash [20:08] oh, so unlock it then plug it back in? [20:08] or leave plugged in [20:08] or plug it in and then unlock it [20:08] but unlock it, yes [20:08] security yo [20:08] basically, adb only works when we are confident that the owner is in posession of the device, so it needs to have a PIN (or passphrase) and they had to enter that to unlock it [20:09] nope [20:09] still blank [20:09] have you tried a hammer? [20:09] what version you running? [20:09] 14.10 r243 [20:09] jcastro: does it open a Nautilus window and show you the MTP folders? (Documents, Music, etc) [20:09] no, it doesn't [20:09] nothing in dmesg either [20:09] flip developer mode off then on again [20:10] then it's not making a connection [20:10] broken cable? [20:10] try a different USB cable [20:10] r243!? [20:10] cable and port work fine, already tried that [20:10] how did you manage that? [20:10] * popey is on 14.10 r137 [20:10] popey: I know, that's from like 2014-10 [20:10] which channel? [20:10] I was running it all cycle [20:10] and then one day it stopped updating [20:11] jcastro: yeah, probably old devel channel, you should switch to RTM [20:11] bet you're on trusty [20:11] oh, it still shows up as utopic dev [20:11] mhall119, how do I do that? [20:11] I just want to run whatever the best one is [20:11] ubuntu-device-flash -something something [20:11] popey knows [20:11] ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel-proposed [20:11] from the device itself? [20:11] no [20:11] via usb [20:11] no no, don't put him on proposed [20:11] 20:11:27 < jcastro> I just want to run whatever the best one is [20:12] proposed == best [20:12] :þ [20:12] no it's not [20:12] lies [20:12] proposed == newest [20:12] well, if it can't find it on usb [20:12] newest == best [20:12] then I can't flash it [20:12] anyway to do it from the device itself? [20:12] yeah, you need to sort your USB connection first [20:12] yeah, you can do it from the device [20:12] in the terminal [20:12] but I'd flip dev mode off/on first [20:12] what a concept, eg? [20:13] might be broken adb on your pc [20:13] flipping does nothing [20:13] kill adbd [20:13] on pc [20:13] then unplug/replug, run adb devices [20:13] if it's not making an MTP connection, it's probably a physical problem, not adb [20:13] also, usb cable [20:13] if it's physical it's the phone, I've tested everything else [20:13] it's not a "charging only" cable is it? [20:13] no [20:14] jcastro: have you tried juju deploy fix-my-phone? [20:14] I have one of them, burned it [20:14] so yeah, kill adbd first [20:14] killall adb [20:14] adb devices [20:14] did that already, still blank [20:14] is it easy to upgrade from the device? [20:15] yeah, if you can type well [20:15] system-image-cli -c ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 -b 0 [20:15] do that in terminal [20:16] !!! [20:16] dude, I had a zombie adb process [20:16] there we go [20:16] so I had to -9 [20:16] not just normal kill [20:16] happens [20:16] ok [20:16] now to rewipe it with the latest bling? [20:16] I have to show it off at a talk tonight [20:16] you dont have to wipe [20:16] so nothing too crazy [20:17] adb shell [20:17] system-image-cli -c ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 -b 0 [20:17] leave it alone... [20:17] ack [20:17] oh, might need sudo ☻ [20:18] you get more feedback if you use ubuntu-device-flash on your laptop though [20:18] ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 [20:18] well too late, heh [20:19] nvm [20:19] how long should I give it, 15min or so? [20:19] it'll take a while [20:19] adb shell in and you'll see ubuntu-download process [20:19] meaning "yay" [20:22] popey, is it a good idea to cancel it and do it from the laptop? [20:22] it's atomic right? :) [20:23] ya [20:23] its fine [20:23] you can always restart it if it hasn't rebooted into the update [20:25] so was I on some old crufty devel release from like months ago? [20:32] popey, do I answer yes or no for disabling recovery flash? [20:38] popey, mhall119: holy crap, this is waaaaay better than what I was running before! [20:38] hah [20:38] gah stupid web client messed up my reply [20:41] jcastro: welcome to the future :) [20:42] yeah then I ran into popey's RMS app [20:42] :D [20:48] what happened to the jono one? we need that back [20:48] popey, your youtube app is <3 [20:49] heh [20:49] put some music on your device [20:49] if you haven't already [20:49] make sure you have artwork too. [20:50] no one's done spotify yet? [20:50] yes, someone has [20:50] but there's a platform issue with playing audio in the background [20:50] oh [20:51] the problem is because spotify has a binary blob for doing the streaming [20:51] nod [20:51] popey, are they waiting for background playlists as well? or does the music get cut as soon as it minimises ? [20:51] also, put a couple of trailers on your phone [20:51] does the normal music app have that problem? [20:51] ahayzen: no, its because of the blob [20:51] no, jcastro [20:51] popey, ah [20:52] jcastro: ahayzen is one of the music app devs :D [20:52] o/ [20:52] Community \m/ [20:52] rawk! [20:52] ok I just need to find local music [20:52] I'll dig into one of my backups [20:52] I don't think I've kept local music around for years, heh [20:52] yeah, a backup, right ☻ [20:52] internet backups [20:52] no seriously, I no longer do local music [20:53] me too [20:53] I'm all over spotify [20:53] oh cool, I can just drag and drop into this folder here [20:53] bling bling [20:53] interestingly two of the spotify developers hang out in the ubuntu touch channel ㋛ [20:58] man, music works awesome [20:58] just copied stuff over, done [20:58] hey so, if I put pink floyd in music, shouldn't searching for "floyd" in the main scope show results? [20:59] oh I see, drag over one for the music scope [21:01] jcastro: yeah, there is no "Home" scope in Unity 8 anymore [21:01] ok, booted with my sim in it [21:02] I am committed now! [21:02] jcastro: want to see something slick though? [21:03] show me [21:03] man, the notifications are so slick now [21:03] jcastro: from anywhere in the dash, swipe up from the bottom edge to enter the dash manager [21:03] then use the search icon in the top-right corner and search for "Pink Floyd" [21:04] OMG. Thank you, mhall119! [21:04] belkinsa: not at all, it's well deserved [21:05] ooh [21:05] You made my day. [21:05] :) [21:05] ok so is there no contacts scope? [21:05] let's say I want to call jill [21:06] belkinsa: I do want to get involved with Ubuntu Leadership team, but I've got to finish porting developer.ubuntu.com to Django :( [21:06] this looks it up on like wikipedia, etc. [21:06] not my phone [21:06] jcastro: yeah, no contacts/people scope [21:06] that was dropped a *long* time ago [21:06] ok so how do you call/text someone? [21:06] mhall119, I think it will take time for the Leadership Team to get off the ground. But I think with the help of the CC and the mentoring program, it may be seeon. [21:06] soon* [21:06] drill down in the messaging or phone app? [21:06] jcastro: use the dialer or messaging app [21:07] jcastro: or look the person up in the address book app, and then choose to call or text them [21:08] I wonder if we'll see the people scope agian, now that the API is improved and C++ scopes are fast [21:10] yeah I tend to use the person as the top org unit [21:10] and then choose msg or call [21:10] jcastro: use the addressbook app then [21:11] the google sync thing is pretty sweet [21:15] yeah, that was a huge pain to get working, but now that it does it's awesome [21:15] alarms too [22:30] mhall119, one more thing [22:30] the home circle activity thing still says no sources [22:30] do I need to set it up? [22:41] the what now? [23:09] mhall119, the infographic on the 'welcome screen' [23:47] that may be a bug [23:47] i filed one for it [23:47] jcastro: no, you don't it should have music, texts, calls, etc, if no, it's a bug [23:48] bug 1359022 [23:48] bug 1359022 in libusermetrics (Ubuntu) "Welcome screen on image #200 always states that there are no data sources available" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1359022