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foshow do I find out how much data is on the hard drive01:01
rpadovani!support | fos01:05
ubot5fos: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com01:05
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tsdgeosCimi: what's delaying the review of https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/photoscopeimprovements ?09:13
tsdgeosdednick: do you remember why not top approve of https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/list_on_bottom_swipe/+merge/235266 ?09:14
Saviqdandrader, hey, about shell rotation... we need a notion of native orientation09:21
Saviqdandrader, and that's what the dash, the dialer need and apps need to be able to declare, that they run only in native orientation of the device09:22
dandraderSaviq, we have it already09:23
dandraderSaviq, check OrientatedShell.qml properties09:23
Saviqdandrader, that native orientation we need to be able to override, too (like we want the N7 to be landscape, even though hardware wants portrait)09:23
Saviqdandrader, but is that a supported choice for the .desktop file?09:23
dandraderSaviq, mzanetti, any thoughts on that? I'm having a very hard time convincing uitk guys: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/dontReparentPopup/+merge/242313Sa09:25
dandraderSaviq, mzanetti and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/139451109:25
ubot5Launchpad bug 1394511 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "It should be possible to make Dialog respect its parent" [Undecided,New]09:25
Saviqdandrader, (where) have they voiced their concerns?09:26
dandraderSaviq, #sdk. a loooong discussion there09:26
dandraderSaviq, started about 1.5 hours ago09:27
dandraderSaviq, that's primary orientation09:30
dandraderSaviq, not native orientation09:30
dandraderSaviq, N7's native orientation is portrait, but its primary orientation is landscape09:30
dandraderSaviq, as per OrientedShell's definition of native and primary orientations09:31
dandraderSaviq, which differs a bit from QScreen's one09:31
dandraderSaviq, but overall this is still a WIP area as I just started tackling tablet vs. phone in shellRotation09:32
dandraderSaviq, so my idea is that dash  would have "X-Ubuntu-Supported--Orienteations=primary" in its desktop file09:33
dandraderjeez, so many typos...09:33
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Saviqdandrader|afk, yes, something of the sort09:34
Saviqmzanetti, snap-after-drag and rounded-bfb conflict, could you rebase one on the other please09:38
mzanettiSaviq: ack09:38
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mzanettiSaviq: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/rounded-bfb/+merge/24232209:42
Saviqmzanetti, tx09:43
tsdgeosmzanetti: with https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/reversible-spread/+merge/241274 there's no test for endPhase 209:50
mzanettitsdgeos: yeah, because that doesn't exist any more09:51
mzanettiit doesn't go to phase2 any more as long as dragging09:51
mzanettibut it snaps to phase 2 after releasing, there's still a test for that09:51
tsdgeosmzanetti: stop dragging then?09:52
tsdgeosis there?09:52
tsdgeosah right09:52
mzanettivery closely to the left edge though... so there's only 2 grid units or so that you could drag further in theory09:52
mzanettibut that would cross the line of the phase2 animation and look wierd when snapping09:52
mzanettiso I decided to not allow that09:53
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Saviqmzanetti, you need to merge trunk into launcher-snap and merge into rounded-bfb, I'm getting criss-crossed otherwise10:17
Saviq*remerge into10:17
mzanettiSaviq: on it10:18
mzanettiSaviq: should be better now10:19
Saviqmzanetti, tx10:20
dednicktsdgeos: cant remember. but it's had a few changes since i approved.10:26
tsdgeosdednick: could you re-review?10:26
dednicktsdgeos: ya. doing now10:26
tsdgeosi open a wikipedia result preview and the dash is at 40% cpu :S10:35
tsdgeoscan you guys reproduce?10:35
Saviqtsdgeos, any one in particular?10:39
tsdgeosSaviq: i'm opening max verstappen10:39
tsdgeosbut i don't think it matters10:40
Saviqtsdgeos, yes, confirmed10:40
Saviqtsdgeos, but it settled down10:40
tsdgeosnot for me10:40
tsdgeosonly when the screen locked10:40
tsdgeosit did settle10:40
tsdgeoslet's see if i can get it in the pc10:41
mzanettitsdgeos: well, it gets sigstopped10:41
tsdgeosmzanetti: sure but then i came back and was fine10:41
mzanettihmm. ok10:41
tsdgeoswhich is weird10:41
Saviqmzanetti, it doesn't (get sigstopped)10:41
Saviqmzanetti, dash is not lifecycled10:41
mzanettiSaviq: it does get sigstopped, just not sigtermed10:42
Saviqmzanetti, believe me, it's not sigstopped10:42
greyback_it's not sigstopped10:42
greyback_we removed that a month ago or so10:42
mzanettidid you guys revert my commit then?10:42
Saviqmzanetti, yes, the scopes middleware can't deal with that (it was losing data)10:42
greyback_when we changed over to using UAL for lifecycle10:43
mzanettisure. the same as with other apps...10:43
Saviqmzanetti, "other apps" don't talk to services via sockets / zmq10:43
tsdgeosSaviq: i wonder what's causing that, do we have a spinner hidden somehwere eating the cpu?10:44
* tsdgeos tries to reproduce on the desktop10:44
mzanettiwell, it still breaks network connections10:44
mzanettiand such things10:44
Saviqmzanetti, and you really don't need to restate your disdain over the lifecycle every time you get a chance, it's getting tiring10:44
Saviqtsdgeos, it could be the bottom activity indicator10:44
Saviqtsdgeos, it's not limited to wikipedia, reddit has the same issue (I'm thinking images)10:45
dednicktsdgeos: need to up unity8 required version of unity-api?10:48
tsdgeosdednick: let me see10:50
tsdgeosSaviq: may be the activity indicator (that is not even shown), i'm adding soem debug10:52
tsdgeosdednick: yeah we did that and then got lost in a merge since someone else "took" 7.93 for unity-api :D10:53
tsdgeosi'll up it to 7.9410:54
tsdgeosdednick: pushed10:55
dednicktsdgeos: ta. just testing changes now10:56
dednicktsdgeos: do you need to update translations, or is that done separately?11:00
tsdgeosSaviq: did we decide on anything? ↑11:00
tsdgeosupdate on the same MR makes for conflicts, update after makes for we forget :D11:00
Saviqtsdgeos, same MP11:01
tsdgeosok :)11:01
Saviqtsdgeos, we don't change it that often11:01
sil2100dednick: ping11:01
dednicksil2100: yo11:01
Saviqtsdgeos, that is, until we get hook support in train, right sil2100? ;)11:01
tsdgeosdednick: pushed the pot_file then11:02
tsdgeosdednick: thanks for bringing it up :)11:02
dednicktsdgeos: cool. changes look fine. just running qmltests.11:04
tsdgeosthe indicator is now grey?11:09
tsdgeosSaviq: i can barely see it :/11:09
tsdgeoswait it's orange in krillin and gray in mako?¿11:13
tsdgeosah, i guess someone "broke" Theme.palette.selected.foreground11:14
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Saviqtsdgeos, yes, UITK11:27
tsdgeosSaviq: shall we file a bug so we don't forget?11:28
Saviqtsdgeos, we need to fix it locally11:28
Saviqtsdgeos, lemme MP11:28
tsdgeoshave you guys run QSG_VISUALIZE=overdraw on the phone?11:29
SaviqI expect Gerry did11:30
tsdgeosi'm getting lots of11:30
tsdgeosQOpenGLShader::link: "L0010 Uniform 'tweak' differ on precision"11:30
tsdgeosand "nothing"11:30
mzanettitsdgeos: yeah, works fine for me11:30
mzanettitried last time about 3 weeks ago11:31
tsdgeosmzanetti: mako? krillin?11:31
tsdgeoshow did you run it?11:31
mzanettidon't remember which device it was. I've set it in the upstart session. lemme try11:31
Saviqtsdgeos, 'restart unity8 QSG_VISUALIZE=overdraw'11:32
mzanettidoesn't seem to work here atm either11:33
mzanetticauses some artifacts, but not the thing we want11:34
sil2100Saviq: ;)11:34
Saviqsil2100, shall we get that into the CI team backlog?11:34
tsdgeosSaviq: does that work for you? i get regular unity8 :S11:35
tsdgeoslet's restart11:35
sil2100dednick: sorry, got distracted... so, someone from QA stumbled upon an issue with indicators yesterday - we tried confirming this bug, but actually everything seems to be working fine for everyone else, but I guessed you might take a look at that:11:35
Saviqtsdgeos, yup, works here11:36
mzanettiSaviq: mako or krillin?11:36
sil2100dednick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/139439211:36
ubot5Launchpad bug 1394392 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "unable to enable bluetooth after its been disabled" [Undecided,New]11:36
Saviqmzanetti, krillin11:36
mzanettihmm.. not working here on krillin11:36
sil2100dednick: might this be related to the recent sync-with-settings changes?11:36
Saviqrestart unity8 QSG_VISUALIZE=overdraw11:37
Saviqmzanetti, tsdgeos ↑ that's all I did (it's vivid, though)11:37
mzanettiworking on mako here11:37
dednicksil2100: that more looks like a bluetooth issue. I'll need to take a look11:38
tsdgeosso i'll change phone :D11:38
mzanettiyeah. I think I have vivid on mako and rtm on krillin11:38
dednicksil2100: as in system settings telling bluetooth to enable, but it doesnt.11:38
sil2100dednick: as mentioned, we had 2 people try to confirm this and the result was negative, so it might have been some singular case11:39
dednicksil2100: right. i just saw that.11:39
dednicksil2100: i've had troubles enabling bluetooth on my desktop after disabling, but not on phone.11:39
dednicksil2100: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1394392/comments/211:48
ubot5Launchpad bug 1394392 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "unable to enable bluetooth after its been disabled" [Undecided,New]11:49
sil2100dednick: thanks! Will have to poke Chris when he's up about this11:51
facundobatistadoes anybody know where the data that is sent in the User Agent comes from? (when client doing requests to the server remote scopes)11:52
Saviqfacundobatista, pstolowski would know, but pete-woods might, too11:56
pete-woodsSaviq, facundobatista: I don't know off the top of my head, but will dig through the code11:57
facundobatistaSaviq, thanks! Pawel surely knows, but as I didn't find him, didn't know whom to ask :)11:57
facundobatistapete-woods, thanks11:58
Saviqtsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/dash-fix-colors/+merge/24233611:59
pete-woodsfacundobatista: ^ more complete11:59
facundobatistapete-woods, it should be building a "partner" parameter in the UA... is this already in the code?12:02
Cimitsdgeos, someone to test it?12:02
tsdgeosCimi: well it has your name in there, abstain if you're not going to ;)12:03
tsdgeosSaviq: looks good, let me review more12:03
Cimitsdgeos, code approved then12:04
Cimitsdgeos, as said, I had issues when I tested it12:04
tsdgeosCimi: which issues?12:04
Cimion my krillin12:04
Cimitsdgeos, activity indicator staying on screen for several seconds12:05
Cimitsdgeos, when refreshing12:05
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SaviqCimi, that's happening on stock rtm as well, problem in events scope12:10
CimiSaviq, just on the scopes though12:10
Cimisorry photo scope12:10
Cimibut anyway, we can merge then12:10
SaviqCimi, still, the indicator is controlled by the backend12:11
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tsdgeosdednick: \o/12:30
dednicktsdgeos: :)12:31
tsdgeosnow we just need someone to review https://code.launchpad.net/~stolowski/unity-scopes-shell/feeds12:31
tsdgeoswhere's pstolowski hiding :D12:31
tsdgeospete-woods: do you guys have someone to review https://code.launchpad.net/~stolowski/unity-scopes-shell/feeds/+merge/239396 ?12:32
tsdgeosmzanetti: about https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/reversible-spread/+merge/241274 ? no care about other stages?12:34
mzanettitsdgeos: the tablet stage is changed too12:34
mzanettiline 74 in the diff12:35
tsdgeosman i can't read ^_^12:37
mzanettino worries. first time I just scrolled over it I though: "huh? did I really forget to commit it? I'm sure I changed it" :D12:37
mzanettitook me 2 attempts to see it too12:37
tsdgeosmzanetti: how do i test it thoough, there's no tryTableStage :'(12:39
mzanettitsdgeos: you can ./run.sh it and make the window fullscreen. it should switch to tablet mode12:39
tsdgeosthat true12:39
pete-woodstsdgeos: it's on my list of stuff to review12:40
tsdgeospete-woods: oki :)12:40
Saviqmzanetti, can you check, in the spread, swipe an app up and down, crossing the "center" position, does it jump around for you?12:40
mzanettiSaviq: trunk or in that no-jumping branch?12:41
Saviqmzanetti, silo 3012:41
Saviqmzanetti, but check on whatever12:41
Saviqmzanetti, but yeah, sounds like your no-jump branch made it jump when it crosses the center12:41
* Saviq reboots to check if it persists12:42
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Saviqmzanetti, also, did vesar see the close threshold increase?12:44
mzanettiSaviq: vesar is on parental leave unfortunately12:44
Saviqmzanetti, right, was wondering if he's back yet12:44
mzanettibut the only reason we didn't increase it before was the jumping12:44
mzanettiSaviq: afaik he'll be back on Mon12:45
mzanettiSaviq: when he comes back we might increase it even more12:45
Saviqmzanetti, kk12:45
Saviqatm stuff's crashing for me, not sure if it's happening in vivid-proposed yet12:46
Saviqand I'm not getting cores, not enough memory for some reason12:46
mzanettiSaviq: dang. it jumps indeed12:47
mzanettiSaviq: will fix12:47
* Saviq reflashes to see if it crashes in stock vivid-proposed, suspects Qt 5.3.212:49
Saviqtsdgeos, in lp:~aacid/unity8/networkingstatus shouldn't onlineStatusChanged go away completely?12:54
tsdgeosSaviq: yes it should12:55
tsdgeosSaviq: pushd12:57
Saviqtsdgeos, thanks12:57
mzanettiSaviq: fixed. should I just push to the same branch?13:03
Saviqmzanetti, yeah13:04
Saviqmzanetti, do you have a bit of time to try something out for me?13:04
mzanettiSaviq: done13:04
mzanettiSaviq: can do, yeah13:04
Saviqmzanetti, get latest devel-proposed on mako13:04
Saviqmzanetti, citrain device-upgrade 3013:04
Saviqmzanetti, and try to get it to crash by launching xbmcremote and closing it repeatedly13:04
Saviqtry swiping the launcher in over the xbmcr splash screen13:05
SaviqI'm getting a crash rather reliably, but can't get core13:05
* Saviq tries with gdb in the mean time13:05
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Saviqmzanetti, I managed to get a trace13:14
mzanettiSaviq: any pointers where it's crashing?13:14
Saviqdandrader, ↑13:14
Saviqnot sure how the silo unearthed this TH13:15
dandraderSaviq, so no idea of the use case that caused this?13:21
dandraderSaviq, is there a bug with this stack trace? it's worth investigating13:23
Saviqdandrader, actually, yes13:33
Saviqdandrader, I just launch an app and start playing with the launcher, at some point I get the crash13:33
Saviqdandrader, I was only able to repro on vivid + silo 30 though, no idea what unearthed this issue13:34
dandraderSaviq, and what's in silo 30? (I don't know how to find silo URLs)13:36
Saviqdandrader, you go to http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/13:37
Saviqdandrader, silo 30 is http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu&q=landing-03013:37
dandraderSaviq, define "playing with the launcher": just scrolling its icons up & down?13:51
Saviqdandrader, no, swipe it in, tap the app for launcher to go away13:52
Saviqdandrader, rinse'n'repeat13:52
dandraderSaviq,  "citrain device-upgrade 30" <- is that a terminal command?13:55
Saviqdandrader, yes13:56
Saviqdandrader, from phablet-tools-citrain13:56
Saviqdandrader, and you need to pass your sudo password as the last argument13:56
tsdgeosmzanetti: there's a huge flickering on doing the "alt+tab" swipe on the spread14:06
tsdgeosnot caused by your patch14:06
tsdgeosbut i don't remeber it being there14:06
tsdgeosmzanetti: when switching between apps, not with the dash14:07
tsdgeoscan you reproduce?14:07
mzanettitsdgeos: in trunk?14:08
tsdgeosmzanetti: and in rtm14:08
tsdgeosno idea where this is coming from14:08
tsdgeoswant a bug?14:08
mzanettime neither atm14:08
mzanettinot happening in ./run.sh14:10
mzanettitsdgeos: might be the antialiasing thing14:12
tsdgeosmzanetti: but that's not on rtm yet14:12
mzanettihmm, indeed14:12
mzanettitsdgeos: seems it is14:15
Saviqmzanetti, it's not14:15
Saviqmzanetti, it's in silo http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu-rtm&q=landing-00414:16
sil2100Trevinho, andyrock: hey guys! You around?14:16
mzanettiSaviq: ah ok... it seems commit 1933 does say it in the log though14:16
mzanettierr, 139914:16
tsdgeoswhat's the correct syntax for this?14:16
tsdgeosubuntu-device-flash touch --revision=150  --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed14:16
Saviqmzanetti, the bug links are from the branch14:17
sil2100hmmm, on second thought, actuall it's on my side14:17
Saviqmzanetti, which does, now, contain the antialiasing14:17
sil2100Trevinho, andyrock: nvm!14:17
Saviqtsdgeos, --revision before touch14:17
Trevinhosil2100: ah ok :)14:17
tsdgeosmeh, i was pretty sure i had trid that14:17
sil2100Trevinho: I'm working on fixing the changelog-bug issue you guys reported in citrain :)14:17
Trevinhosil2100: cool14:18
tsdgeosso revision 150 doesn't ahve that problem14:23
sil2100Trevinho: ok, so I have a really simple fix for that - would you mind if the 'Fixes: bug, bug, bug' string in the commit message would be changed to 'Fixes: #bug, #bug, #bug'? (i.e. # appended to the bug number)14:26
Trevinhosil2100: no, I think it's nicer14:27
Trevinhosil2100: adding LP: also?14:27
sil2100Well, it's not necessary, I would be a bit worried that it would 'bloat' the commit message14:27
sil2100Since it would mean the bigger list would be like this: "Fixes: LP: #123456, LP: #234567, LP: #345678"14:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 123456 in xine-lib (Ubuntu) "podcast crashes amarok" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12345614:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 234567 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "Gnome toolbars unresponsive after update and no toolbars on reboot." [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23456714:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 345678 in xfce4-sensors-plugin (Ubuntu) "xfce4-sensors crashed with SIGSEGV in *__GI___libc_free()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34567814:28
sil2100As you see, there are multiple ':' then in the commit-message, which looks a bit dirrty14:29
Trevinhosil2100: irc seems to like it :D14:29
Trevinhoas you prefer btw, it's not a big deal14:29
Saviqtsdgeos, are you seeing this on rtm?14:29
tsdgeosSaviq: yes, that's why i'm bisecting14:30
Saviqtsdgeos, ugh :?14:30
tsdgeosafaik we have not changed much/at all in rtm14:30
Saviqtsdgeos, thanks, let me know if I need to chase someone14:31
tsdgeosSaviq: i'll try to find out in which image it was introduced14:31
tsdgeos157 is fine too14:31
Saviqtsdgeos, FWIW I was seeing that for a long time, but with the dash only14:32
tsdgeosit's a good thing this thing caches the iamges14:32
Saviqand only sometimes14:32
tsdgeosflashing is faster :)14:32
tsdgeosi fear i'll flash 166 (latest) again and it will be gone14:33
tsdgeosSaviq: it's ubuntu-app-launch15:04
tsdgeoswell i went to 16515:05
tsdgeos166 fails15:05
tsdgeoswent back to 16515:05
tsdgeosupdated updated gir1.2-ubuntu-app-launch-2 libubuntu-app-launch2 ubuntu-app-launch ubuntu-app-launch-tools15:05
tsdgeosad now fails15:05
tsdgeoslet me revert them15:05
Saviqtedg, greyback, any idea how ual could cause apps flickering when focusing them?15:06
tsdgeosany idea where i can find the 0.4+14.10.20141031~rtm-0ubuntu1 packages of ual?15:07
greybackSaviq: flickering? As in visually?15:07
Saviqgreyback, yes15:07
greybackdo their contents flicker, like on a focus/unfocus/focus flicker?15:07
Saviqgreyback, yes, goes to black15:07
tedgTrying to think what changed there…15:07
tedgLet me check15:07
Saviqtsdgeos, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/+source/ubuntu-app-launch15:08
Saviqtsdgeos, https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-010/+build/652579915:08
Saviqto be exact15:08
tedgSo the change we made was to pause on the cgmanager connection.15:08
greybackSaviq: app suspend/resume timinging changed slightly maybe15:08
dandraderSaviq, reproduced the crash and think what the cause is15:09
Saviqgreyback, that's what I was thinking, but would that cause a flicker?15:09
tedgSo there could be other events happening that would cause a fliker while we're waiting?15:09
Saviqgreyback, shouldn't we hold the last frame we had?15:09
greybackSaviq: if app was suspended before it got unfocus event, and then focused and then resumed, the unfocus & focus events might be stuck in a queue until the app resumed15:10
greybackthen it reacts on unfocus, then focus15:10
greybackguess though15:10
Saviqgreyback, and we stop rendering on unfocus (I mean apps do) due to the visibility event or whatnot?15:11
greybackSaviq: there are separate focus and visibility events15:11
Saviqgreyback, yeah, unfocus shouldn't cause any real difference, visibility stops rendering though15:12
greybackSaviq: right, except if UI is designed to change on focus/unfocus15:12
Saviqgreyback, but it's not like either should send up a blank frame?15:12
Saviqgreyback, yeah, but that's different15:12
greybackSaviq: blank frame? No15:12
greybackok, that wasn't clear to me15:12
Saviqgreyback, exactly, so where are we getting the black frame from :/15:12
greybackSaviq: only thought is Mir15:13
tsdgeosreverting those packages makes the flickering away15:13
tsdgeoslet's try with 166 and downgrading those now15:13
greybacktsdgeos: that's bizarre. Reverting ual fixed the black frame flicker?15:14
greybackI dunno how but perhaps we're pulling a buffer from Mir which wasn't rendered to by the client yet. Should not be possible though15:18
dandraderSaviq, dang it. now I cannot reproduce it anymore....15:21
Saviqdandrader, yeah, it's not an easy thing to repro, I was only able to do it on vivid + silo 30, even though silo 30 had nothing to do with anything related15:21
dandraderSaviq, yeah, I have vivid with silo 30 as well15:22
Saviqdandrader, what I usually did was launch xbmcremote (don't think app matters), and while it was launching I'd do "swipe launcher in" and "tap on spread" in quick succession15:23
Saviqdandrader, then, right swipe to spread, close the app, start from scratch15:23
Saviqdandrader, I'd usually crash it within 30s15:23
tedgSo the only thing I could think of there is that we're ending up processing an idle event that you don't expect.15:27
tedgI think I could make it a custom context so no other events would process.15:27
tsdgeostedg: greyback: i'm going to open a bug since it's very reproducible for me, you guys can't?15:27
tedgThat might fix the issue.15:27
tedgtsdgeos, I'll read the bug, I'm not quite sure what I'm looking for yet.15:28
greybacktsdgeos: if you want, but will only investigate if tedg thinks it's qtmir's issue15:29
tedgAh, on just quick right swipe?15:29
Saviqtedg, start two apps15:29
tedgIf I do the long drag it doesn't seem to happen.15:29
Saviqtedg, short right swipe to toggle between apps15:29
tsdgeostedg: yes quick swipe15:29
Saviqtedg, you get black15:29
tedgAh, I see. I never do short swipe :-)15:30
tsdgeostedg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-app-launch/+bug/139462215:33
ubot5Launchpad bug 1394622 in ubuntu-app-launch (Ubuntu) "0.4+15.04.20141118~rtm-0ubuntu1 causes flickering on spread "alt+tab" gesture" [Undecided,New]15:33
Cimimterry, can we reuse the same qsortfilterproxymodel from unity?15:45
mterryCimi, I assume you're looking at wizard-import?  We do use the same in wizard-plugin.  wizard-import really is trying to make as little changes as possible, just to make reviewing the actual changes I do make in wizard-plugin reviewable15:46
Cimimterry, mmm ok15:48
mterryCimi, if I didn't do that, it would be impossible to see what I actually did.  wizard-import is real dumb -- I don't even think the wizard works right if you install it15:49
tsdgeosSaviq: i think the high cpu usage was basically the busy indicator16:11
tsdgeosjust that as it was white16:11
tsdgeosi wasn't seeing it16:11
Saviqtsdgeos, ok, will keep an eye out16:11
* Saviq takes an eye out and puts it on a table16:12
tsdgeosbe careful it doesn't fall off16:13
tsdgeosthe table i mean16:13
michael_ptaszis anyone on?17:02
mzanettiSaviq: can you think of any explanation why this would happen? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-app-launch/+bug/139462217:05
ubot5Launchpad bug 1394622 in ubuntu-app-launch (Ubuntu) "0.4+15.04.20141118~rtm-0ubuntu1 causes flickering on spread "alt+tab" gesture" [Undecided,New]17:05
* mzanetti totally lost how UAL could influence this17:05
greybackmzanetti: a crazy guess: the call to focusApplication might now be blocking on the UAL resume call, and so take slightly  longer to switch the app to the front17:07
mzanettihmm... a good one17:07
mzanettibut would a blocking call actually render black frames?17:08
mzanettiin which case the issue sounds like a bigger one17:08
greybackmzanetti: it's not a black frame IMO, it's like both foreground & background app are invisible, so the black is the Stage background17:12
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Saviqgreyback, yeah, that could make sense, but that would still mean we're swapping for a blank frame for some reason, and IIUC we should never do that?18:19
Saviqand apps should not have alpha, btw, so should never be transparent18:19
Saviqand for what else reason should we have both apps visible: false18:19
Saviqwhen it's not visible: false to start with (unless the one we pull in from the right edge is a copy?)18:20
greybackSaviq: apps *can* have alpha ATM, but that's not the issue.18:21
greybackI suspect it's just a glitch in our animations18:22
greybackit's not a blank frame from the application, more it set invisible for a frame somehow18:23
Saviqgreyback, mhm18:26
greybackis guess tho18:27
greybackI've not tried to dig18:27
balloonsbregma, who did the work on unity8-lxc container?20:46
ChrisTownsendballoons: Me and stgraber.20:48
balloonsChrisTownsend, brillant. Can I pick your brain a bit on it then?20:48
ChrisTownsendballoons: Sure!20:48
balloonsSo for the unity8-lxc-setup, I would like to point the setup at an existing iso to save myself the download. In addition, it didn't *seem* like using --redownload would use zsync to save my bandwidth20:49
balloonsto workaround this I manually placed the file in the expected folder.20:50
ChrisTownsendballoons: Right, that area needs some work.20:50
balloonsonce complete I assume I just run unity8-lxc-session yes? it's complaing then unity8-lxc doesn't exist. And indeed lxc-ls shows me nothing20:51
ChrisTownsendballoons: So yes, manually copying the ISO to the expected place will work.  Ans yes, using something like zsync or rsync if the existing iso is there would be much better.20:51
ChrisTownsendballoons: Right, after package install, you need to run 'sudo unity8-lxc-setup'.20:51
ChrisTownsendballoons: Since the ISO is there, you may need to do 'sudo unity8-lxc-setup --rebuild-all'.20:53
balloonstrying again..20:53
ChrisTownsendballoons: I've never tried it with an ISO already existing and no container set up.20:54
balloonsChrisTownsend, oh.. hmm, it's under root only20:54
balloonsI see it with sudo lxc-ls only20:55
ChrisTownsendballoons: Yes, since it's a full session.20:55
ChrisTownsendballoons: Needs root privileges to be started from lightdm.20:55
balloonsChrisTownsend, so do you think running under MIR is possible using the container?20:56
balloonsalso, I was curious about what the best way to update would be. We can re-pull the image, or run update-lxc, or even apt-get inside the container20:56
ChrisTownsendballoons: The container is using using Mir and Unity8.  Once you have it setup, you log into it using LightDM.  Select the Unity 8 LXC session.20:57
ChrisTownsendballoons: You can either redownload the latest ISO or use 'sudo unity8-lxc-setup --update-lxc' to update the packages in the container.20:58
ChrisTownsendballoons: And yes, you can attach to the container and do apt-get inside.20:58
balloonsright, just wondering what I should propagate as the best practice.20:59
ChrisTownsendballoons: I say either the update-lxc method or if someone wants the whole new image, then use --redownload.  The thing about getting a new image is if new packages are included for demo purposes or new functionality that simply updating won't pick up.21:01
balloonsanyways, I'm not getting a running session ;-( http://paste.ubuntu.com/9131705/21:01
ChrisTownsendballoons: You're logging in through lightdm?21:02
balloonsChrisTownsend, right. mm.. but that would only be true of the image I suppose right? if you add it through the meta-package should be fine21:02
balloonsChrisTownsend, ohh right, my bad21:02
ChrisTownsendballoons: Well, one thing that comes to mind is there is the Gtk+ work going on and they may add Gtk apps to the ISO at some point.  Just updating the container won't pick that up.21:04
ChrisTownsendballoons: But yeah, if there is some metapackage on the ISO that adds those dependencies, then yeah, it should work.21:04
balloonsso probably should get zsync going then push pulling from image :-)21:05
ChrisTownsendballoons: Yeah, I'll enter a bug report and work on that.21:06
balloonsChrisTownsend, ok, so from lightdm anyway it attempts to launch then just reloads lightdm21:08
ChrisTownsendballoons: Hmm, ok.  What version of Ubuntu is the host and are you using a real user, aka, not Guest?21:09
balloonsChrisTownsend, ahh that was the next question. Vivid, and yes a guest session21:10
balloonsmir I suppose isn't happy with guest sessions?21:10
ChrisTownsendballoons: Ok, I don't think the guest session works with Unity8 yet.21:11
ChrisTownsendballoons: I create some test user for testing that stuff.21:11
balloonsgood to know.. I'll be updating the wiki with my notes after this as well to fill in some of these gaps21:12
ChrisTownsendballoons: And once you log in, you can't log out back to lightdm.  It's a known issue in Unity 8.21:12
balloonsdo we have bugs for either of these issues, just for note puroposes21:13
ChrisTownsendballoons: Cool, thanks for the Wiki help.  Hopefully what I have there is a good start, but more is better and also I have a bias on how it works and probably make unconscious assumptions.21:13
ChrisTownsendballoons: I'm not sure about the guest support, but for the logout, yes, we do.  Lemme get you the bug #.21:14
ChrisTownsendballoons: Bug #1360316 for the logout issue.21:14
ubot5bug 1360316 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Logging out the desktop session just goes back to the Greeter" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136031621:14
balloonsChrisTownsend, certainly heh. The goal is to push some new community folks at this. Having this container is exciting21:14
ChrisTownsendballoons: It is pretty cool.  Thanks to stgraber for getting this started.21:15
balloonsohh, fast user switching did work.. that's nice21:17
ChrisTownsendballoons: I just tried a guest session on a non-container Unity 8 session and it just sits there at a black screen.  At least with the container, it kicks you back to lightdm so you can do something.21:17
balloonsChrisTownsend, ok so how do I exit?21:22
balloonsas you said, no way back to lightdm easily21:22
balloonsI seem to losse vt's also21:23
ChrisTownsendballoons: Um, well, uh...ssh into the machine and stop the container.21:23
ChrisTownsendballoons: Or reboot.21:23
ChrisTownsendballoons: And the VT's is a known issue.  I'll get you that bug as well.21:23
* balloons wonders if he re-setup ssh on his box21:24
ChrisTownsendballoons: Bug #1383497 is for the VT issue.  It's a container thing at this point and needs to be investigated further.21:25
ubot5bug 1383497 in unity8-lxc (Ubuntu) "TTY switching does not work when running Unity8 in the LXC" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138349721:25
balloonscurrently I'm actually a bit stuck. using logout, restart, shutdown just returns me to unity8 and I can't login anymore :-(21:25
balloonsis there a reason I can't login anymore from the unity8 lockscreen?21:26
balloonsnot that I set a password for the user21:26
balloonsI mean, from the touch side21:26
ChrisTownsendballoons: Umm, this is a little beyond my expertise in that this is a Unity 8 issue.21:27
balloonssure, you've just been on such a roll :p21:28
ChrisTownsendlol, yeah21:29
balloonsbregma, are you about?21:35
balloonsofc, I guess I could ask ChrisTownsend as well.. test his skills :-) I was curious what the roadmap, timeline, dev practices are for delivering new features. It would be nice to have some notes to accompany new stuff flowing into the image and help people keep pace with what's going on21:36
ChrisTownsendballoons: Are you talking about the Unity 8 desktop proper or features and such for just the container part?21:38
balloonsChrisTownsend, unity8 proper. I'm wondering what the best way to communicate what's happening, particularly with the focus on people using it21:39
ChrisTownsendballoons: I'd like to know the answers to those questions as well;-)21:39
balloonsfor the container, I just *KNOW* you'll be fixing my bug right away21:40
ChrisTownsendballoons: zsync?21:40
balloonsChrisTownsend, yea21:40
* balloons doesn't hide his sarcasm21:41
ChrisTownsendballoons: I'm on it!21:41
bregmafrome a vague standpoint, basic window management is coming in the next few weeks, and design will be addressing desktop-oriented issues in the next few months, but that's about as exact as we're going to get until the current phone-oriented crush is past21:41
bregmathose guys have my sympathy21:41
bregmabut I wish they had my software working21:42
balloonswell mzanetti was showing off something more up to date than what I saw I think yesterday21:44
* balloons re-reads his own sentence, is confused by his resounding command of english, and realizes the day must be getting long21:45
bregmayeah, saw that21:46
mzanettibregma: what sofware?21:47
bregmaunity8 on desktop with what looked like windows21:47
balloonshey mzanetti I was just trying to refer to your video.. ^^ exactly21:47
mzanettiyeah, I'm working on that now mostly21:48
mzanettitoday I added support for a wallpaper and made the launcher showing up correctly (as opposed to the upside-down thing on the phone)21:48
mzanettinext steps is to make the mouse behave more mousy instead of touch21:49
ChrisTownsendmzanetti: I don't suppose you have that code someplace where we can try it, do you?21:50
mzanettiChrisTownsend: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/wallpaper21:51
mzanettishould build fine with debuild. just install unity8, unity8-common and unity8-private from those packages and run it with unity8-desktop-session-mir21:51
ChrisTownsendmzanetti: Cool!  That includes the windowing stuff too?21:52
ChrisTownsendmzanetti: Thank you!21:52
balloonsohh slick. mzanetti will you land that in rtm or vivid? or both?21:52
mzanettiChrisTownsend: but keep in mind this is *really* early stages21:52
ChrisTownsendmzanetti: Understood21:52
mzanettiballoons: well, for now I'm trying to land it in vivid. not sure what will propagate through rtm, that's really not the focus for this21:53
balloonsmzanetti, I ask because it seems some stuff is going to rtm first -- is that right?21:53
mzanettiballoons: no, we land into vivid and cherry-pick phone related fixes into rtm21:54
mzanettimaybe a sync of trunk -> rtm will happen at some point, but really not sure when and how21:54
balloonsmzanetti, that would be my expectation. The differences then I'm seeing must simply be the default setup (scopes, etc)21:54
mzanettiballoons: probably, yes. definitely not for unity821:56
mzanettiChrisTownsend: ah right, you need to "gsettings set com.canonical.Unity8 usage-mode Windowed" for now, as long as we don't have all the context recognition in place21:57
ChrisTownsendmzanetti: Ok, thanks for letting me know.21:58
mzanettihave fun :)21:58
ChrisTownsendmzanetti: I will:)21:59
balloonsmzanetti, I notice the keyboard doesn't in scopes22:00
balloonsis that known?22:00
mzanettiballoons: more context please :)22:01
mzanettion the phone?22:01
mzanettior the desktop?22:01
balloonsmzanetti, sorry, desktop22:01
mzanettihmm, really?22:01
* mzanetti tries22:01
balloonsmzanetti, doesn't seem to work for me.. the store and searching on scopes for music or video don't work22:02
mzanettiballoons: indeed... works in system-settings but not in scopes22:02
* balloons can file22:03
balloonsif you'd like22:03
mzanettiballoons: ah.. it does work, but you need to focus something else and then back to scopes22:03
mzanettiballoons: probably too early to file focus bugs :)22:03
mzanettiI'm sure there's an uncountable amount of issues still22:04
mzanettiballoons: know what'd be awesome, if you could get some community guys to package up the terminal-app and dekko for amd6422:06
balloonsmzanetti, that I can work on. I actually went looking for file manager and terminal first thing22:08
mzanettiyeah, not in there if not armhf :/22:08
balloonsmzanetti, yep, indeed22:09

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