[00:08] <MobileRoey> soee:  hey again, I apt-get updated and now I am installing 346.
[00:09] <MobileRoey> Your_Dog:  yo wassup dog??
[00:09] <MobileRoey> sorry, had to say it.
[00:32] <znc-> hat jemand von euch ne logilizenz die er nicht braucht
[00:32] <znc-> oh wrong chan
[01:49] <diego_> Greetings.  I am looking for help on configurating my network.
[01:49] <diego_> Basically, I have a checkbox that says connect automatically checked but it doesn't connect automatically.
[01:49] <diego_> Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks in advance.
[03:58] <Excite> i need help
[05:46] <uwe> guten Morgen alle lieben Leute, lol.
[05:59] <uwe> hi
[06:00] <valorie> can we help you, uwe?
[06:01] <uwe> Liste der Irc Bezehle
[06:01] <uwe> i dont inglish
[06:02] <valorie> !de | uwe
[06:29] <uwe> hi
[08:33] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:48] <Odur> Something strange after upgrading from 14.04 that I didn't notice before. Now I have to restart cups after boot to get printing working.
[09:48] <Odur> I'm investigating the issue, but I'm clueless right now. On boot it says cups i started, but I have to "sudo service cups restart" for it to work
[09:50] <Odur> Nothing in the var/log/cups logs either
[09:50] <lordievader> Odur: On boot is the cups daemon running?
[09:51] <Odur> lordievader: only cups-browsed according to ps -A, but if I try to start cups it says "already running"
[09:52] <Odur> restart does the trick
[09:53] <Odur> lordievader: I think the problem is this.
[09:53] <Odur> [   21.315094] init: cups main process (1146) killed by HUP signal
[09:53] <Odur> [   21.315101] init: cups main process ended, respawning
[09:53] <lordievader> Hmm, on a debian machine only cupsd is running and that works fine.
[09:53] <lordievader> That may very well be the cause.
[09:54] <Odur> After a restart of cups service both cups-browsed and cupsd is running
[09:55] <Odur> But why does cups get a HUP on boot? Doesn't make sense to me
[09:56] <lordievader> Hmm, no that does not make sense.
[09:57] <lordievader> Perhaps the interface ain't up yet?
[09:58] <Odur> could be.. I'll take a look
[09:58] <Hawkmebbs> is anyone else having issues with 10.4 where Youtube in Chromium is causing the video screen going completely black while playing a video and not being able to recover from it?
[09:59] <Hawkmebbs> just started happening since last update
[10:01] <Odur> lordievader: Should networking have default runlevel of "S"?
[10:03] <lordievader> Odur: Err, I'm not sure what you are checking. What is the starton clause of cups?
[10:03] <Odur> Scratch my former question. It was correct
[10:04] <Odur> # Required-Start:    $syslog $remote_fs
[10:04] <Odur> # Required-Stop:     $syslog $remote_fs
[10:04] <Odur> # Should-Start:      $network avahi-daemon slapd nslcd
[10:04] <Odur> # Should-Stop:       $network
[10:06] <lordievader> Odur: Hmm, you'd think that would work...
[10:07] <Odur> mmm
[10:07] <lordievader> I know a dirty workaround, but it is dirty... :(
[10:10] <Odur> lordievader: I think I know what you thinking :)
[10:10] <lordievader> Adding "service cups restart" to /etc/rc.local, yes...
[10:11] <Odur> Exactly. Well.. I continue to poke around, and if I don't find anything I'll do a clean install
[10:16] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Odur:
[10:16] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Might I be able to assist
[10:17] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> I am not fully up to speed with your problem,
[10:17] <lordievader> Hey Sick_Rimmit_Test
[10:17] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> But I have had issues with CUps and who is a member of the LPAdmin group in the past
[10:17] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Hi lordievader
[10:18] <lordievader> How are you doing Sick_Rimmit_Test?
[10:18] <Hawkmebbs> is anyone else having issues with 10.4 where Youtube in Chromium is causing the video screen to go completely black while playing a video and not being able to recover from it?
[10:18] <Hawkmebbs> just started happening since last update of 10.4 and there is no issue with youtube and Firefox
[10:18] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> lordievader: Ah busy busy, as always you know
[10:18] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: You have all info above
[10:19] <lordievader> ;)
[10:19] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Ah it seems I was jumping between 14.10 Plasma 4, and this Plasma 5 test machine, I didn't have the channel active on the other machine
[10:19] <lordievader> Odur: He just joined, doesn't have the full backlog.
[10:19] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: On boot, cupsd gets killed by HUP-signal, and doesn't respawning. restart of cupsd after boot solves it
[10:20] <Odur> Can't find out why though
[10:20] <Odur> [   20.901261] audit: type=1400 audit(1416564851.479:8): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf" pid=1158 comm="apparmor_parser"
[10:20] <Odur> [   20.901266] audit: type=1400 audit(1416564851.479:9): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/cupsd" pid=1158 comm="apparmor_parser"
[10:20] <Odur> [   20.901268] audit: type=1400 audit(1416564851.479:10): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="third_party" pid=1158 comm="apparmor_parser"
[10:20] <Odur> [   21.001792] init: cups main process (1159) killed by HUP signal
[10:20] <Odur> [   21.001798] init: cups main process ended, respawning
[10:20] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Ah right, so on Nix systems logs are your fiend
[10:20] <Odur> then only cups-browsed is running.
[10:21] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> s/fiend/friend/ :-
[10:21] <Odur> nothing in /var/log/cups
[10:22] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Hmmm, ok hang on a minute I'll look up some stuff
[10:22] <Odur> I've removed and reinstalld cups. Didn't help
[10:23] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Can you have a look at this..
[10:23] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> see if it bears any fruit
[10:23] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/253316
[10:24] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Jump to the bottom, don't worry too much about the dmesg output bumpf
[10:24] <Odur> yes... 51.104612] audit_printk_skb: 33 callbacks suppressed
[10:25] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Ah ha, so this is the probable route of the problem
[10:25] <Odur> this didn't happen on 14.04 though, I'm on 14.10 now
[10:25] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Can you do the same for me ?
[10:26] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Reboot then copy the output from dmesg and pastebin it ?
[10:26] <Odur> yes, no problem.
[10:31] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> BRB, meeting
[10:33] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: http://pastebin.com/WuKfUJdZ
[10:35] <Odur> What, Wait?! Now cupsd is running at boot. WTF?
[10:36] <lordievader_> hehe, what did you change?
[10:36] <Odur> I didn't do anything
[10:36] <Odur> Only edited rc.local at one boot, but removed it this reboot
[10:37] <Odur> I hate intermittent errors....
[10:38] <Odur> intermittently, or what it's called in english :P
[10:40]  * Sick_Rimmit_Test returns
[10:41] <Odur> I'll do another reboot and check. This is strange
[10:44] <Odur> I don't get it. It's now working.
[10:44] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Just looking through dmesg output now
[10:45] <Odur> The only thing I've done is adding "service cups restart" to rc.local, but that line was removed before the reboot that generated that dmesg. And I didn't add it back.
[10:48] <nagerst> Is there a way to make quassel connect automatically to all the servers in my server list?
[10:49] <Odur> nagerst: Should be. But I'm using konversation, so I'm not sure how.
[10:49] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Clutching at straws
[10:49] <lordievader> Odur: Heh, strange. But good that it works :)
[10:49] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Do you have Samba configured to share your printers
[10:49] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: Don't think so... But I'll check.
[10:49] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Looks like there might be a Socket conflict with CIFS, these errors appear in the Dmesg output.
[10:50] <Odur> The CIFS errrors have been there since several releases
[10:50] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Then init kills cupsd, and it just made me think that maybe there is something in that.
[10:50] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> I will continue to look at log for a moment
[10:51] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: Yes, samba shares printers.
[10:52] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: But that's the same config file as used in 14.04
[10:52] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Look at your paste bin, entries from line 1266 until 1303
[10:52] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> It looks like these things are fighting for connecting sockets, and failing
[10:53] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> This might also be why it works sometimes and not others, as its dependent on socket initialisation timings
[10:53] <Odur> From 1248
[10:53] <Odur> Hmm. yes
[10:53] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Of course I could be completely off piste, with this
[10:54] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> May be with using testparm to check your Samba config..
[10:55] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> OK, I'll stop looking at this point an allow you to invetigate
[10:55] <lordievader_> You could make it depend on samba.
[10:58] <Odur> testparm checks out OK:
[10:58] <Odur> Now for some lunch. I'll be back :)
[11:25] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: New dmesg: http://pastebin.com/dkAJwTU5
[11:26] <Odur> I've eliminated the CIFS-errors, which was from loading of samba-shares in my fstab. cupsd didn't start this time
[11:44] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Odur:
[11:44] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Hmm...
[11:44] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Interesting...
[11:45] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> OK maybe we can go back to first principles, can you boot again and pastebin the new dmesg
[11:45] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> So I'm intermittent, in meetings today
[11:45] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> :-)
[11:46] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: Do you mean that I should enable the lines in fstab again?
[11:58] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Odur
[11:58] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> No..
[11:59] <Odur> Ok
[12:00] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Do you have a booting system, which Cups fails to start, and Samba is now configured ?
[12:01] <lordievader> Odur: How are your network interfaces configured?
[12:02] <Odur> lordievader: just fine, thank you :)
[12:03] <Odur> Exactly what do you mean?
[12:03] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: http://pastebin.com/0DZn2ZQd
[12:03] <Odur> cupsd not running this time either
[12:03] <lordievader> Odur: What are you using and do you use the network manger to configure them, etc?
[12:04] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> a few minutes, I will look
[12:04] <Odur> lordievader:  wired network, built in. Static IP. google DNS. network manager used
[12:05] <lordievader> Odur: Could you try setting the static ip in /etc/network/interfaces. I'm wondering if that will fix the issue.
[12:08] <Odur> lordievader: Do you really think that is the problem? Network are configured exactly the same as in 14.04
[12:08]  * Sick_Rimmit_Test begins looking through dmesg
[12:09] <lordievader> Odur: If I understand a hup correctly, it might be.
[12:10] <Odur> So. What's changed between 14.04 and 14.10
[12:11] <lordievader> Probably lots, hard to say, I usually run the development versions. So it changes rather gradually for me.
[12:12] <Odur> I think I'll soon do a clean install instead, as I usually do.
[12:33] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Sorry got interrupted
[12:34] <luc__> ciao
[12:36] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Odur
[12:36] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: No problem.
[12:37] <Odur> I'm running a backup just now
[12:37] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> How about trying this
[12:37] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> https://help.ezeep.com/hc/en-us/articles/201025046-How-to-enable-debug-logging-in-CUPS-
[12:37] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> So we'd set Cups to Debug Log level, then reboot and look at waht Cups logs tells us ?
[12:37] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Whadda Ya Fink ?
[12:37] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: Ok. when the backup is finished
[12:38] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Odur: OK Cool, nudge me when your done
[12:39] <lordievader> Odur: Still, I'd say it is worth a shot, especially if you are going to reinstall anyways ;)
[12:40] <luc__> italian
[12:41] <lordievader> !it | luc__
[12:49] <Odur> lordievader: Yes, I'll try that too
[12:55] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[13:10] <shaun__> hi guys how do you run wine applications over hdmi?
[13:12] <BluesKaj_> shaun__, there's no special methos , if the video works over hdmi in regular linux apps then it should do so in wine as well
[13:12] <BluesKaj_> method
[13:14] <BluesKaj_> video and audio should work over hdmi shaun__,
[13:41] <lifernux> hola
[13:42] <lordievader> o/
[14:03] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: Latest cups error.log http://pastebin.com/veZeD5u0
[14:03] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Ah grand I'll take a look
[14:06] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: But the latest timestamp is before the shutdown-message in syslog
[14:07] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Hmmm
[14:07] <Odur> almost a minute
[14:08]  * Sick_Rimmit_Test looking
[14:08] <Odur> ov 21 14:56:02 yggdrasil kernel: [   22.092268] audit: type=1400 audit(1416578162.668:25): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf" pid=1120 comm="apparmor_parser"
[14:08] <Odur> Nov 21 14:56:02 yggdrasil kernel: [   22.092273] audit: type=1400 audit(1416578162.668:26): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/cupsd" pid=1120 comm="apparmor_parser"
[14:08] <Odur> Nov 21 14:56:02 yggdrasil kernel: [   22.167580] init: cups main process (1121) killed by HUP signal
[14:08] <Odur> Nov 21 14:56:02 yggdrasil kernel: [   22.167586] init: cups main process ended, respawning
[14:08] <Odur> Nov 21 14:56:04 yggdrasil kernel: [   23.740829] audit: type=1400 audit(1416578164.320:28): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/cups-browsed" pid=1406 comm="apparmor_parser"
[14:11] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Hmmm.. I'm smelling a red herrng here
[14:12] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Can you do a pstree, and see if cupsd is running
[14:12] <Odur> it's not
[14:12] <Odur> only cups-browsed
[14:13] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> hmm, well the dmesg ouput on both my 14.04, and 14.10 show init killing cups and it respawning at boot time
[14:14] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> However cupsd is running on both machines
[14:14] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Your dmesg output show cups also being respawned
[14:14] <Odur> but it's not
[14:14] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Yes, so we're looking for it dying somewhere else post boot
[14:15] <Odur> Agreed
[14:15] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> What I mean is that init may well have killed it, but it got restarted. Perhaps it then died after that
[14:15] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Interesting that it never gives any log output
[14:15] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> cups logs I mean
[14:16] <Odur> Yes, it seems like it dies unexpectedly
[14:16]  * Sick_Rimmit_Test scratches head
[14:16]  * Odur also
[14:17] <Odur> Well, I will reinstall soon anyway
[14:17] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Are you able to start cups manually, and does it start or error, perhaps it will show something in cupslog as it starts up /
[14:17] <Odur> I just put "service cups restart" in /etc/rc.local for the moment
[14:18] <Odur> Yes I can. But not start, I have to restart.
[14:18] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Is that working round working successfulyy ?
[14:18] <Odur> start: Job is already running: cups
[14:18] <Odur> Yes
[14:19] <Odur> sudo service cups restart
[14:19] <Odur> cups stop/waiting
[14:19] <Odur> cups start/running, process 4206
[14:19] <Odur> ps -A | grep cups
[14:19] <Odur>  1407 ?        00:00:00 cups-browsed
[14:19] <Odur>  4206 ?        00:00:00 cupsd
[14:19] <Odur> before only cups-browsed was running
[14:23] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> OK So adding thie "service cups restart" could be a temporary bug fix for others with this problem, do you think ?
[14:25] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> s/thie/this/ ^
[14:29] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: Yes, I think so. I'll do a couple of restarts to see if it's persistant
[14:30] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Odur: Excellent, I think that whilst this doesn't correctly solve the problem, it does offer a resolution, and I can add this advice to the Bug report
[14:30] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Odur: Nice work ;-)
[14:30] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: You too :)
[14:31] <Odur> lordievader: And you too ;)
[14:32] <lordievader> :)
[14:32]  * Odur going on a reboot-tour.
[14:32] <lordievader> Still a dirty workaround, but it works oh so effectively.
[14:32] <lordievader> I use it for my nfs mount problem too.
[14:33] <Odur> agree!
[14:38] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> I've updated that post on Ubuntu Answers, and I believe there is a Bug open for this issue too. :-) Happy Days!
[14:40] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: Workaround seems working every reboot
[14:41] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: What's the URL for that Answer?
[14:41] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Odur: Brilliant, that's do
[14:41] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> 2 secs
[14:41] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/253316
[14:42] <lordievader> Odur: This does tell you it is a timing issue ;), did you try my suggestion?
[14:42] <Riddell> ook
[14:43] <Odur> lordievader: Nope, not yet :P
[14:43] <Odur> Now I'm going to jump to youtube for a while. I have to clear my brain with som metal!
[14:45] <Odur> Sick_Rimmit_Test: I'm not sure it's the same issue. The supress message is still present at my dmesg
[14:47] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Odur: Doh!! Yes your right, it's not the same is it..
[14:48] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Whoops,
[14:49] <BluesKaj_> whops is for celebrations ..oops is for a mistake
[14:49] <BluesKaj_> whoops rather :)
[14:54] <yossarianuk> hi - trying to install 'kde-workspace-dev' - getting 'The following packages have unmet dependencies.kde-workspace-dev : Depends: kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installed'
[14:54] <yossarianuk> any ideas
[14:54]  * Sick_Rimmit_Test nods at BluesKaj_
[14:55] <yossarianuk> I am on 14.10
[14:55] <yossarianuk> (upgraded from 14.04)
[14:56] <BluesKaj_> you europeans always use whoops, never understood why :)
[14:57] <BluesKaj_> 14.10 is nice and stable now..working well here, yossarianuk
[14:58] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj_: yes - the desktop is fine.
[14:58] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj_: trying to install the kde dev packages
[14:58] <yossarianuk> but missing dep issues/
[14:58] <lordievader> yossarianuk: What ppa's do you have?
[14:58] <BluesKaj_> yossarianuk, ok ,and what do you plan on developing?
[14:59] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj_: no - I want to install 'KOceanSaver'
[14:59] <lordievader> BluesKaj_: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/whoops
[14:59] <yossarianuk> I have ppa: google-chrome, sysdig
[14:59] <yossarianuk> on 14.04 I had the kubuntu ppa
[14:59] <BluesKaj_> yossarianuk, did yoiu upgrade and dist-upgrade after installing 14.10?
[14:59] <yossarianuk> that is disabled now.
[14:59] <yossarianuk> yes
[15:00] <yossarianuk> i.e - I had kubuntu-ppa-backportss enabled in 14.04
[15:01] <yossarianuk> I upgraded  -> 14.10 - that ppa is now disabled.
[15:02] <yossarianuk> if I do 'sudo apt-get install kdelibs5-dev' - i get -> 'kdelibs5-dev : Depends: kdelibs-bin (= 4:4.14.1-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa1 is to be installed'
[15:02] <yossarianuk> (there is about 40 lines of dep errors_
[15:02] <BluesKaj_> backports should affect it, still enabled here, no dependency probs
[15:02] <BluesKaj_> should not rather
[15:02] <lordievader> yossarianuk: What is the output of 'apt-cache policy kdelib-bin'?
[15:03] <yossarianuk> lordievader: http://pastebin.com/qrSPQJ8A
[15:05] <yossarianuk> it is because the 14.04+ppa has a higher version than 14.10 (and no ppa) ?
[15:05] <lordievader> yossarianuk: Hihi, that one came from the Trusty backports ppa. And was never upgraded as 14.10 didn't provide a newer version. However the package you want to install expects the version from the archive.
[15:06] <yossarianuk> i.e - if I do a 'dpkg -l |grep kdelib-bin' I get
[15:06] <yossarianuk> ii  kdelibs-bin                                 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa1
[15:07] <yossarianuk> (sorry ignore me..)
[15:07] <lordievader> yossarianuk: Is the backports available for Utopic?
[15:08] <yossarianuk> ill see...
[15:11] <yossarianuk> yes - sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa -> sorted it
[15:11] <lordievader> Figured it would ;)
[15:11] <yossarianuk> hold on  - that is kde 4.x - not 5.x ?
[15:11] <yossarianuk> (dont want to break work desktop.)
[15:11] <lordievader> Yes?
[15:11] <yossarianuk> cool
[15:11] <lordievader> Or at least I think so.
[15:12] <yossarianuk> I have installed plasma 5 @ home (not actually loaded it after installing yet though..)
[15:12] <BluesKaj_> it's plasma 4, I have the backports enabled in 14.10
[15:17] <yossarianuk> cheers - yeah checked some of the package versions and saw it was 4.x
[15:18] <yossarianuk> I assume the bug with wobbly windows + window snapping (i.e random graphical glishes) will never be fixed for v 4.x ?
[15:18] <yossarianuk> (it effects Nvidia and Intel GPU's on various machines  - and various distros)
[15:24] <Odur> I have one question about wobbly windows: Why?!
[15:25] <lordievader> Because Compiz, that's why... :(
[15:25] <Odur> oh
[15:33] <yossarianuk> wobbly windows was ported -> kwin
[15:33] <yossarianuk> to be honest no desktop has impressed me as much as the original release of compiz
[15:34] <yossarianuk> it was ahead of anything at the time - the fact you could control 'friction' on your desktop was pretty cool.
[15:36] <BluesKaj_> compiz was ok, but kwin is sufficient for most effects that I use and an easier load
[15:47] <yossarianuk> well when it cam out it was far more impressive than any other OS's desktop... - I was really hopping it was the start of a 3d desktop revolution
[15:47] <yossarianuk> it wasn't.
[15:47] <yossarianuk> the Jazz of desktops...
[17:16] <_shaun_> Hi Blueskaj, my application runs on my laptop terminal i'd like to run it on my tv thru hdmi
[17:16] <_shaun_> with wine
[17:16] <_shaun_> how do i go about that
[17:16] <_shaun_> thanks
[18:17] <kavaco> hi
[18:18] <kavaco> what's the brazillian channel?
[18:18] <kavaco> #kubuntu-br?
[18:19] <lordievader> !brazil
[18:23] <kavaco> thanks
[20:11] <phoenixz> So I just upgraded to 14.10 iwth my laptop, most thigns seem to work alright, but for some reason, the screen brightness keys are not responding. I can change the screen brightness from the battery indicator (click, a menu shows, there I can change it) but obviously it would be nice if those keys would work.. Any idea how I can fix this?
[20:13] <soee> phoenixz: how do you try to change brighness with keys ?
[20:13] <soee> what keys do you press ?
[20:26] <donniezazen_> Am I going to see any difference in things like power management between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[20:27] <donniezazen_> I have tried various distros. I find Ubuntu is seems to play well on my system. Temperature and cpu/mem usage is least compared to other distros.
[20:30] <kavaco> I can not use special characters in GTK applications
[20:31] <kavaco> in kde application i can use: ã é í ú õ
[20:32] <kavaco> but, on GTK application(like Firefox, Chrome, Inkscape...), is inputing: ~a   'i   'e...
[20:32] <kavaco> can help me?
[20:32] <kavaco> i using kubuntu 14.04
[20:32] <kavaco> on pt-br language
[20:32] <kavaco> *with
[20:37] <soee> maybe app changes keyboard layout
[20:46] <kavaco> i do know
[20:47] <kavaco> *dont
[20:53] <phoenixz> soee: the fn+F6 key
[20:53] <phoenixz> soee: This worked correctly in Kubuntu 14.04
[20:59] <kavaco> just on GTK application
[21:00] <kavaco> in Quassel, Konsole, LibreOffice... its ok: áãõóíúé
[21:00] <kavaco> but not on FireFox, Chrome, Inkscape...
[21:04] <soee> phoenixz: works fine for me on my Dell
[21:12] <kavaco> I'm out of luck :D
[21:14] <krytarik> kavaco: See if this works: https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey#Configuration_for_GTK_Applications_.28Gnome.2C_Firefox.2C_etc..29
[21:27] <kavaco> krytarik: ok
[21:27] <kavaco> thanks
[21:30] <kavaco> krytarik: i dont understand
[21:30] <kavaco> the file
[21:30] <kavaco> the link
[22:38] <DJ-Excite> hi looking for a flush for firefox web browser ever one i try doss not work help me
[22:40] <phoenixz> Well, obviously, its not working with me.. Anything I could do?
[22:41] <DJ-Excite> were can i fine a flash that work
[22:41] <bprompt> DJ-Excite:    flush?   you want to "kill" the firefox runnning process?
[22:41] <bprompt> hmm
[22:42] <DJ-Excite> kill
[22:42] <bprompt> DJ-Excite:      dunno.. but I do have the flash 11.02 installed..
[22:42] <DJ-Excite> ?
[22:42] <bprompt> well... you mistyped "flash", you said flush
[22:42] <DJ-Excite> 11.02 will not work
[22:42] <bprompt> DJ-Excite:     flash is in the repositories, iirc
[22:42] <bprompt> DJ-Excite:      so.... you have 11.02  and works well on all sites...but .... this site needs a higher one?
[22:43] <DJ-Excite> i need the flash for irc
[22:43] <DJ-Excite> it keep giveing me  1.3
[22:43] <Fritigern> IRC does bnot need flash
[22:44] <DJ-Excite> yes my irc doss
[22:44] <DJ-Excite> need a flash
[22:44] <Fritigern> Use quassel or kvirc for IRC.
[22:45] <DJ-Excite> no need for flash in here
[22:46] <Fritigern> Exactly. Just use an IRC client and don;t bother with webclients.
[22:46] <DJ-Excite> try to got on irc.torn.com need a flash
[22:47] <Fritigern> No you do not. Use an IRC client!
[22:47] <DJ-Excite> k
[22:48] <DJ-Excite> can i link for this irc to my ?
[22:49] <DJ-Excite> by /server ?
[22:50] <Fritigern> I have just used Quassel to connect to irc.torn.com, and i am now in the lobby, name Fritigern.
[22:50] <Fritigern> And try using more words, make me understand what you mean
[22:51] <DJ-Excite> hmm you got in
[22:51] <DJ-Excite> Fritigern: pm me
[22:51] <Fritigern> What room are you in, are you in the lobby too?
[22:52] <bprompt> hmm
[22:52] <bprompt> DJ-Excite:      that means the irc client "uses flash", it doesn't have to.... use freenode's portal    http://webchat.freenode.net/      no flash needed
[22:53] <DJ-Excite> #excite
[22:53] <bprompt> DJ-Excite:    if it needs flash, is likely for some exotic feature they implemented... otherwise... no need usually in irc, or is just poorly coded
[22:53] <DJ-Excite> #Excite
[22:54] <DJ-Excite> kk
[22:54] <Fritigern> DJ-Excite: Just use quassel.
[22:55] <DJ-Excite> going to try in now
[22:55] <DJ-Excite> brb
[22:56] <kavaco> hello, the Alt Gr dont work here
[22:56] <DJ-Excite> it 4 of that what one ?
[22:56] <kavaco> dont work on notebook keyboard
[22:56] <kavaco> and dont work on USB keyboard
[22:57] <Fritigern> DJ-Excite: Try making sense.
[22:57] <DJ-Excite> Fritigern: it 4 of them what one do in need  ?
[22:57] <Fritigern> 4 of what?
[22:59] <valorie> !compose
[22:59] <valorie> ah, too bad ubottu doesn't know about compose
[23:00] <valorie> kavaco: try https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey
[23:00] <valorie> flash for irc: may that day never come
[23:01] <kavaco> ok
[23:01] <kavaco> i come back
[23:01] <Fritigern> It never will valorie, it never will
[23:03] <valorie> thank goodness
[23:03] <valorie> my universe is safe
[23:07] <Fritigern> Okay Excite. What did you mean by "there;s 4 of them"?
[23:07] <Excite> it 4 irc
[23:08] <Fritigern> 4 irc what? IRC clients? Servers? Users? Cows?
[23:08] <Excite> Quassel it 4 of them
[23:09] <Excite> i try puting in my server sill can not join
[23:10] <kavaco> valorie: wow! the dead keys its ok now, just the Alt Gr dont working...
[23:10] <Excite> ill try
[23:11] <valorie> kavaco: excellent
[23:11] <valorie> keyboard shortcuts are a different thing, which you set in systemsettings
[23:12] <valorie> try alt + f2 and type shortcuts
[23:13] <Excite> i give up i put the server and post sill can not get in
[23:13] <Fritigern> Excite: To add a server to Quassel: cloick "File => Configure Networks", then click the "Add" button in the top half of that window. Select "Manually specify network settings" . Use "Torn" for the network name, server address is irc.torn.com.  Port is 6667, no password, no secure connection. Click "OK"
[23:14] <Excite> lol i did that
[23:15] <Fritigern> Okay, then double-check all the settings
[23:15] <Excite> it keep jumping to server excit
[23:16] <Excite> i try one more time
[23:16] <kavaco> valorie: the right win is inputing a point "."
[23:16] <kavaco> and the alt gr is inputing a "enter"
[23:16] <kavaco> i dont understand
[23:17] <kavaco> ]
[23:17] <kavaco> [[
[23:18] <Fritigern> Excite: the is not "server exit"
[23:18] <Fritigern> *there is no*
[23:19] <kavaco> ..
[23:19] <kavaco> i come back
[23:20] <Fritigern> Excite: If you have done exactly what i told you to do, then you should be ready to connect to torn
[23:23] <Excite> Fritigern:  you have a pm
[23:46] <kavaco> valorie: the alt gr button and the right win dont work
[23:47] <kavaco> what can i do?
[23:47] <valorie> you tried through systemsettings?
[23:47] <valorie> I don't use custom shortcuts
[23:48] <valorie> so not much experience with this