[00:08] soee: hey again, I apt-get updated and now I am installing 346. [00:09] Your_Dog: yo wassup dog?? [00:09] sorry, had to say it. [00:32] hat jemand von euch ne logilizenz die er nicht braucht [00:32] oh wrong chan [01:49] Greetings. I am looking for help on configurating my network. [01:49] Basically, I have a checkbox that says connect automatically checked but it doesn't connect automatically. [01:49] Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks in advance. === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt === mussolini is now known as Phillies === havingFun_ is now known as xrosnight [03:58] i need help === blubberbop is now known as phoenixz === kevin is now known as Guest20220 [05:46] guten Morgen alle lieben Leute, lol. [05:59] hi [06:00] can we help you, uwe? [06:01] Liste der Irc Bezehle [06:01] i dont inglish [06:02] !de | uwe [06:02] uwe: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [06:29] hi === Yukitteru is now known as Yukinotteru === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa === soee_ is now known as soee === kolja is now known as Guest11996 [08:33] Good morning. === Yukinotteru is now known as Dhs92 [09:48] Something strange after upgrading from 14.04 that I didn't notice before. Now I have to restart cups after boot to get printing working. [09:48] I'm investigating the issue, but I'm clueless right now. On boot it says cups i started, but I have to "sudo service cups restart" for it to work [09:50] Nothing in the var/log/cups logs either [09:50] Odur: On boot is the cups daemon running? [09:51] lordievader: only cups-browsed according to ps -A, but if I try to start cups it says "already running" [09:52] restart does the trick [09:53] lordievader: I think the problem is this. [09:53] [ 21.315094] init: cups main process (1146) killed by HUP signal [09:53] [ 21.315101] init: cups main process ended, respawning [09:53] Hmm, on a debian machine only cupsd is running and that works fine. [09:53] That may very well be the cause. [09:54] After a restart of cups service both cups-browsed and cupsd is running [09:55] But why does cups get a HUP on boot? Doesn't make sense to me [09:56] Hmm, no that does not make sense. [09:57] Perhaps the interface ain't up yet? [09:58] could be.. I'll take a look [09:58] is anyone else having issues with 10.4 where Youtube in Chromium is causing the video screen going completely black while playing a video and not being able to recover from it? [09:59] just started happening since last update [10:01] lordievader: Should networking have default runlevel of "S"? [10:03] Odur: Err, I'm not sure what you are checking. What is the starton clause of cups? [10:03] Scratch my former question. It was correct [10:04] # Required-Start: $syslog $remote_fs [10:04] # Required-Stop: $syslog $remote_fs [10:04] # Should-Start: $network avahi-daemon slapd nslcd [10:04] # Should-Stop: $network [10:06] Odur: Hmm, you'd think that would work... [10:07] mmm [10:07] I know a dirty workaround, but it is dirty... :( [10:10] lordievader: I think I know what you thinking :) [10:10] Adding "service cups restart" to /etc/rc.local, yes... [10:11] Exactly. Well.. I continue to poke around, and if I don't find anything I'll do a clean install [10:16] Odur: [10:16] Might I be able to assist [10:17] I am not fully up to speed with your problem, [10:17] Hey Sick_Rimmit_Test [10:17] But I have had issues with CUps and who is a member of the LPAdmin group in the past [10:17] Hi lordievader [10:18] How are you doing Sick_Rimmit_Test? [10:18] is anyone else having issues with 10.4 where Youtube in Chromium is causing the video screen to go completely black while playing a video and not being able to recover from it? [10:18] just started happening since last update of 10.4 and there is no issue with youtube and Firefox [10:18] lordievader: Ah busy busy, as always you know [10:18] Sick_Rimmit_Test: You have all info above [10:19] ;) [10:19] Ah it seems I was jumping between 14.10 Plasma 4, and this Plasma 5 test machine, I didn't have the channel active on the other machine [10:19] Odur: He just joined, doesn't have the full backlog. [10:19] Sick_Rimmit_Test: On boot, cupsd gets killed by HUP-signal, and doesn't respawning. restart of cupsd after boot solves it [10:20] Can't find out why though [10:20] [ 20.901261] audit: type=1400 audit(1416564851.479:8): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf" pid=1158 comm="apparmor_parser" [10:20] [ 20.901266] audit: type=1400 audit(1416564851.479:9): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/cupsd" pid=1158 comm="apparmor_parser" [10:20] [ 20.901268] audit: type=1400 audit(1416564851.479:10): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="third_party" pid=1158 comm="apparmor_parser" [10:20] [ 21.001792] init: cups main process (1159) killed by HUP signal [10:20] [ 21.001798] init: cups main process ended, respawning [10:20] Ah right, so on Nix systems logs are your fiend [10:20] then only cups-browsed is running. [10:21] s/fiend/friend/ :- [10:21] nothing in /var/log/cups [10:22] Hmmm, ok hang on a minute I'll look up some stuff [10:22] I've removed and reinstalld cups. Didn't help [10:23] Can you have a look at this.. [10:23] see if it bears any fruit [10:23] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/253316 [10:24] Jump to the bottom, don't worry too much about the dmesg output bumpf [10:24] yes... 51.104612] audit_printk_skb: 33 callbacks suppressed [10:25] Ah ha, so this is the probable route of the problem [10:25] this didn't happen on 14.04 though, I'm on 14.10 now [10:25] Can you do the same for me ? [10:26] Reboot then copy the output from dmesg and pastebin it ? [10:26] yes, no problem. [10:31] BRB, meeting [10:33] Sick_Rimmit_Test: http://pastebin.com/WuKfUJdZ [10:35] What, Wait?! Now cupsd is running at boot. WTF? [10:36] hehe, what did you change? [10:36] I didn't do anything [10:36] Only edited rc.local at one boot, but removed it this reboot [10:37] I hate intermittent errors.... [10:38] intermittently, or what it's called in english :P [10:40] * Sick_Rimmit_Test returns [10:41] I'll do another reboot and check. This is strange === jam is now known as Guest65445 [10:44] I don't get it. It's now working. [10:44] Just looking through dmesg output now [10:45] The only thing I've done is adding "service cups restart" to rc.local, but that line was removed before the reboot that generated that dmesg. And I didn't add it back. [10:48] Is there a way to make quassel connect automatically to all the servers in my server list? [10:49] nagerst: Should be. But I'm using konversation, so I'm not sure how. [10:49] Clutching at straws [10:49] Odur: Heh, strange. But good that it works :) [10:49] Do you have Samba configured to share your printers [10:49] Sick_Rimmit_Test: Don't think so... But I'll check. [10:49] Looks like there might be a Socket conflict with CIFS, these errors appear in the Dmesg output. [10:50] The CIFS errrors have been there since several releases [10:50] Then init kills cupsd, and it just made me think that maybe there is something in that. [10:50] I will continue to look at log for a moment [10:51] Sick_Rimmit_Test: Yes, samba shares printers. [10:52] Sick_Rimmit_Test: But that's the same config file as used in 14.04 [10:52] Look at your paste bin, entries from line 1266 until 1303 [10:52] It looks like these things are fighting for connecting sockets, and failing [10:53] This might also be why it works sometimes and not others, as its dependent on socket initialisation timings [10:53] From 1248 [10:53] Hmm. yes [10:53] Of course I could be completely off piste, with this [10:54] May be with using testparm to check your Samba config.. [10:55] OK, I'll stop looking at this point an allow you to invetigate [10:55] You could make it depend on samba. [10:58] testparm checks out OK: [10:58] Now for some lunch. I'll be back :) === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa === David1977 is now known as Guest49066 === mydogsnameisrudy is now known as monkeyjuice [11:25] Sick_Rimmit_Test: New dmesg: http://pastebin.com/dkAJwTU5 [11:26] I've eliminated the CIFS-errors, which was from loading of samba-shares in my fstab. cupsd didn't start this time [11:44] Odur: [11:44] Hmm... [11:44] Interesting... [11:45] OK maybe we can go back to first principles, can you boot again and pastebin the new dmesg [11:45] So I'm intermittent, in meetings today [11:45] :-) [11:46] Sick_Rimmit_Test: Do you mean that I should enable the lines in fstab again? [11:58] Odur [11:58] No.. [11:59] Ok [12:00] Do you have a booting system, which Cups fails to start, and Samba is now configured ? [12:01] Odur: How are your network interfaces configured? [12:02] lordievader: just fine, thank you :) [12:03] Exactly what do you mean? [12:03] Sick_Rimmit_Test: http://pastebin.com/0DZn2ZQd [12:03] cupsd not running this time either [12:03] Odur: What are you using and do you use the network manger to configure them, etc? [12:04] a few minutes, I will look [12:04] lordievader: wired network, built in. Static IP. google DNS. network manager used [12:05] Odur: Could you try setting the static ip in /etc/network/interfaces. I'm wondering if that will fix the issue. [12:08] lordievader: Do you really think that is the problem? Network are configured exactly the same as in 14.04 [12:08] * Sick_Rimmit_Test begins looking through dmesg [12:09] Odur: If I understand a hup correctly, it might be. [12:10] So. What's changed between 14.04 and 14.10 [12:11] Probably lots, hard to say, I usually run the development versions. So it changes rather gradually for me. [12:12] I think I'll soon do a clean install instead, as I usually do. === administrator is now known as Guest50361 === Guest50361 is now known as keyonce04 === keyonce04 is now known as minty === minty is now known as keke === keke is now known as keyonce04 [12:33] Sorry got interrupted [12:34] ciao [12:36] Odur [12:36] Sick_Rimmit_Test: No problem. [12:37] I'm running a backup just now [12:37] How about trying this [12:37] https://help.ezeep.com/hc/en-us/articles/201025046-How-to-enable-debug-logging-in-CUPS- [12:37] So we'd set Cups to Debug Log level, then reboot and look at waht Cups logs tells us ? [12:37] Whadda Ya Fink ? [12:37] Sick_Rimmit_Test: Ok. when the backup is finished [12:38] Odur: OK Cool, nudge me when your done [12:39] Odur: Still, I'd say it is worth a shot, especially if you are going to reinstall anyways ;) [12:40] italian [12:41] !it | luc__ [12:41] luc__: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [12:49] lordievader: Yes, I'll try that too [12:55] Hiyas all [13:10] hi guys how do you run wine applications over hdmi? [13:12] shaun__, there's no special methos , if the video works over hdmi in regular linux apps then it should do so in wine as well [13:12] method [13:14] video and audio should work over hdmi shaun__, [13:41] hola [13:42] o/ [14:03] Sick_Rimmit_Test: Latest cups error.log http://pastebin.com/veZeD5u0 [14:03] Ah grand I'll take a look [14:06] Sick_Rimmit_Test: But the latest timestamp is before the shutdown-message in syslog [14:07] Hmmm [14:07] almost a minute [14:08] * Sick_Rimmit_Test looking [14:08] ov 21 14:56:02 yggdrasil kernel: [ 22.092268] audit: type=1400 audit(1416578162.668:25): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf" pid=1120 comm="apparmor_parser" [14:08] Nov 21 14:56:02 yggdrasil kernel: [ 22.092273] audit: type=1400 audit(1416578162.668:26): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/cupsd" pid=1120 comm="apparmor_parser" [14:08] Nov 21 14:56:02 yggdrasil kernel: [ 22.167580] init: cups main process (1121) killed by HUP signal [14:08] Nov 21 14:56:02 yggdrasil kernel: [ 22.167586] init: cups main process ended, respawning [14:08] Nov 21 14:56:04 yggdrasil kernel: [ 23.740829] audit: type=1400 audit(1416578164.320:28): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/cups-browsed" pid=1406 comm="apparmor_parser" [14:11] Hmmm.. I'm smelling a red herrng here [14:12] Can you do a pstree, and see if cupsd is running [14:12] it's not [14:12] only cups-browsed === Haudegen is now known as Guest49092 [14:13] hmm, well the dmesg ouput on both my 14.04, and 14.10 show init killing cups and it respawning at boot time [14:14] However cupsd is running on both machines [14:14] Your dmesg output show cups also being respawned [14:14] but it's not [14:14] Yes, so we're looking for it dying somewhere else post boot [14:15] Agreed [14:15] What I mean is that init may well have killed it, but it got restarted. Perhaps it then died after that [14:15] Interesting that it never gives any log output [14:15] cups logs I mean [14:16] Yes, it seems like it dies unexpectedly [14:16] * Sick_Rimmit_Test scratches head [14:16] * Odur also [14:17] Well, I will reinstall soon anyway [14:17] Are you able to start cups manually, and does it start or error, perhaps it will show something in cupslog as it starts up / [14:17] I just put "service cups restart" in /etc/rc.local for the moment [14:18] Yes I can. But not start, I have to restart. [14:18] Is that working round working successfulyy ? [14:18] start: Job is already running: cups [14:18] Yes [14:19] sudo service cups restart [14:19] cups stop/waiting [14:19] cups start/running, process 4206 [14:19] ps -A | grep cups [14:19] 1407 ? 00:00:00 cups-browsed [14:19] 4206 ? 00:00:00 cupsd [14:19] before only cups-browsed was running [14:23] OK So adding thie "service cups restart" could be a temporary bug fix for others with this problem, do you think ? [14:25] s/thie/this/ ^ === Guest49092 is now known as Haudegen [14:29] Sick_Rimmit_Test: Yes, I think so. I'll do a couple of restarts to see if it's persistant [14:30] Odur: Excellent, I think that whilst this doesn't correctly solve the problem, it does offer a resolution, and I can add this advice to the Bug report [14:30] Odur: Nice work ;-) [14:30] Sick_Rimmit_Test: You too :) [14:31] lordievader: And you too ;) [14:32] :) [14:32] * Odur going on a reboot-tour. [14:32] Still a dirty workaround, but it works oh so effectively. [14:32] I use it for my nfs mount problem too. [14:33] agree! [14:38] I've updated that post on Ubuntu Answers, and I believe there is a Bug open for this issue too. :-) Happy Days! [14:40] Sick_Rimmit_Test: Workaround seems working every reboot [14:41] Sick_Rimmit_Test: What's the URL for that Answer? [14:41] Odur: Brilliant, that's do [14:41] 2 secs [14:41] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/253316 [14:42] Odur: This does tell you it is a timing issue ;), did you try my suggestion? [14:42] ook [14:43] lordievader: Nope, not yet :P [14:43] Now I'm going to jump to youtube for a while. I have to clear my brain with som metal! [14:45] Sick_Rimmit_Test: I'm not sure it's the same issue. The supress message is still present at my dmesg [14:47] Odur: Doh!! Yes your right, it's not the same is it.. [14:48] Whoops, [14:49] whops is for celebrations ..oops is for a mistake [14:49] whoops rather :) [14:54] hi - trying to install 'kde-workspace-dev' - getting 'The following packages have unmet dependencies.kde-workspace-dev : Depends: kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installed' [14:54] any ideas [14:54] * Sick_Rimmit_Test nods at BluesKaj_ [14:55] I am on 14.10 [14:55] (upgraded from 14.04) [14:56] you europeans always use whoops, never understood why :) [14:57] 14.10 is nice and stable now..working well here, yossarianuk [14:58] BluesKaj_: yes - the desktop is fine. [14:58] BluesKaj_: trying to install the kde dev packages [14:58] but missing dep issues/ [14:58] yossarianuk: What ppa's do you have? [14:58] yossarianuk, ok ,and what do you plan on developing? [14:59] BluesKaj_: no - I want to install 'KOceanSaver' [14:59] BluesKaj_: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/whoops [14:59] I have ppa: google-chrome, sysdig [14:59] on 14.04 I had the kubuntu ppa [14:59] yossarianuk, did yoiu upgrade and dist-upgrade after installing 14.10? [14:59] that is disabled now. [14:59] yes [15:00] i.e - I had kubuntu-ppa-backportss enabled in 14.04 [15:01] I upgraded -> 14.10 - that ppa is now disabled. [15:02] if I do 'sudo apt-get install kdelibs5-dev' - i get -> 'kdelibs5-dev : Depends: kdelibs-bin (= 4:4.14.1-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa1 is to be installed' [15:02] (there is about 40 lines of dep errors_ [15:02] backports should affect it, still enabled here, no dependency probs [15:02] should not rather [15:02] yossarianuk: What is the output of 'apt-cache policy kdelib-bin'? [15:03] lordievader: http://pastebin.com/qrSPQJ8A === soee_ is now known as soee [15:05] it is because the 14.04+ppa has a higher version than 14.10 (and no ppa) ? [15:05] yossarianuk: Hihi, that one came from the Trusty backports ppa. And was never upgraded as 14.10 didn't provide a newer version. However the package you want to install expects the version from the archive. [15:06] i.e - if I do a 'dpkg -l |grep kdelib-bin' I get [15:06] ii kdelibs-bin 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa1 [15:07] (sorry ignore me..) [15:07] yossarianuk: Is the backports available for Utopic? [15:08] ill see... [15:11] yes - sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa -> sorted it [15:11] Figured it would ;) [15:11] hold on - that is kde 4.x - not 5.x ? [15:11] (dont want to break work desktop.) [15:11] Yes? [15:11] cool [15:11] Or at least I think so. [15:12] I have installed plasma 5 @ home (not actually loaded it after installing yet though..) [15:12] it's plasma 4, I have the backports enabled in 14.10 [15:17] cheers - yeah checked some of the package versions and saw it was 4.x [15:18] I assume the bug with wobbly windows + window snapping (i.e random graphical glishes) will never be fixed for v 4.x ? [15:18] (it effects Nvidia and Intel GPU's on various machines - and various distros) [15:24] I have one question about wobbly windows: Why?! [15:25] Because Compiz, that's why... :( [15:25] oh === Dhs92 is now known as Yukitteru [15:33] wobbly windows was ported -> kwin [15:33] to be honest no desktop has impressed me as much as the original release of compiz [15:34] it was ahead of anything at the time - the fact you could control 'friction' on your desktop was pretty cool. [15:36] compiz was ok, but kwin is sufficient for most effects that I use and an easier load [15:47] well when it cam out it was far more impressive than any other OS's desktop... - I was really hopping it was the start of a 3d desktop revolution [15:47] it wasn't. [15:47] the Jazz of desktops... === Yukitteru is now known as Yukinotteru === alket_ is now known as alket [17:16] <_shaun_> Hi Blueskaj, my application runs on my laptop terminal i'd like to run it on my tv thru hdmi [17:16] <_shaun_> with wine [17:16] <_shaun_> how do i go about that [17:16] <_shaun_> thanks [18:17] hi [18:18] what's the brazillian channel? [18:18] #kubuntu-br? [18:19] !brazil [18:19] Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada. [18:23] thanks === SonikkuAmerica is now known as Guest91468 === SonikkuAmerica_ is now known as SonikkuAmerica === SonikkuAmerica_ is now known as SonikkuAmerica === blubberbop is now known as phoenixz [20:11] So I just upgraded to 14.10 iwth my laptop, most thigns seem to work alright, but for some reason, the screen brightness keys are not responding. I can change the screen brightness from the battery indicator (click, a menu shows, there I can change it) but obviously it would be nice if those keys would work.. Any idea how I can fix this? [20:13] phoenixz: how do you try to change brighness with keys ? [20:13] what keys do you press ? [20:26] Am I going to see any difference in things like power management between Ubuntu and Kubuntu? [20:27] I have tried various distros. I find Ubuntu is seems to play well on my system. Temperature and cpu/mem usage is least compared to other distros. [20:30] I can not use special characters in GTK applications [20:31] in kde application i can use: ã é í ú õ [20:32] but, on GTK application(like Firefox, Chrome, Inkscape...), is inputing: ~a 'i 'e... [20:32] can help me? [20:32] i using kubuntu 14.04 [20:32] on pt-br language [20:32] *with [20:37] maybe app changes keyboard layout [20:46] i do know [20:47] *dont === Guest56500 is now known as sgrover [20:53] soee: the fn+F6 key [20:53] soee: This worked correctly in Kubuntu 14.04 [20:59] just on GTK application [21:00] in Quassel, Konsole, LibreOffice... its ok: áãõóíúé [21:00] but not on FireFox, Chrome, Inkscape... [21:04] phoenixz: works fine for me on my Dell [21:12] I'm out of luck :D [21:14] kavaco: See if this works: https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey#Configuration_for_GTK_Applications_.28Gnome.2C_Firefox.2C_etc..29 [21:27] krytarik: ok [21:27] thanks [21:30] krytarik: i dont understand [21:30] the file [21:30] the link === tyche_ is now known as tyche === Excite is now known as DJ-Excite [22:38] hi looking for a flush for firefox web browser ever one i try doss not work help me [22:40] Well, obviously, its not working with me.. Anything I could do? [22:41] were can i fine a flash that work [22:41] DJ-Excite: flush? you want to "kill" the firefox runnning process? [22:41] hmm [22:42] kill [22:42] DJ-Excite: dunno.. but I do have the flash 11.02 installed.. [22:42] ? [22:42] well... you mistyped "flash", you said flush [22:42] 11.02 will not work [22:42] DJ-Excite: flash is in the repositories, iirc [22:42] DJ-Excite: so.... you have 11.02 and works well on all sites...but .... this site needs a higher one? [22:43] i need the flash for irc [22:43] it keep giveing me 1.3 [22:43] IRC does bnot need flash [22:44] yes my irc doss [22:44] need a flash [22:44] Use quassel or kvirc for IRC. [22:45] no need for flash in here [22:46] Exactly. Just use an IRC client and don;t bother with webclients. [22:46] try to got on irc.torn.com need a flash [22:47] No you do not. Use an IRC client! [22:47] k [22:48] can i link for this irc to my ? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [22:49] by /server ? [22:50] I have just used Quassel to connect to irc.torn.com, and i am now in the lobby, name Fritigern. [22:50] And try using more words, make me understand what you mean [22:51] hmm you got in [22:51] Fritigern: pm me [22:51] What room are you in, are you in the lobby too? [22:52] hmm [22:52] DJ-Excite: that means the irc client "uses flash", it doesn't have to.... use freenode's portal http://webchat.freenode.net/ no flash needed [22:53] #excite [22:53] DJ-Excite: if it needs flash, is likely for some exotic feature they implemented... otherwise... no need usually in irc, or is just poorly coded [22:53] #Excite [22:54] kk [22:54] DJ-Excite: Just use quassel. [22:55] going to try in now [22:55] brb [22:56] hello, the Alt Gr dont work here [22:56] it 4 of that what one ? [22:56] dont work on notebook keyboard [22:56] and dont work on USB keyboard [22:57] DJ-Excite: Try making sense. [22:57] Fritigern: it 4 of them what one do in need ? [22:57] 4 of what? [22:59] !compose [22:59] ah, too bad ubottu doesn't know about compose [23:00] kavaco: try https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey [23:00] flash for irc: may that day never come [23:01] ok [23:01] i come back [23:01] It never will valorie, it never will [23:03] thank goodness [23:03] my universe is safe [23:07] Okay Excite. What did you mean by "there;s 4 of them"? [23:07] it 4 irc [23:08] 4 irc what? IRC clients? Servers? Users? Cows? [23:08] Quassel it 4 of them [23:09] i try puting in my server sill can not join [23:10] valorie: wow! the dead keys its ok now, just the Alt Gr dont working... [23:10] ill try [23:11] kavaco: excellent [23:11] keyboard shortcuts are a different thing, which you set in systemsettings [23:12] try alt + f2 and type shortcuts [23:13] i give up i put the server and post sill can not get in [23:13] Excite: To add a server to Quassel: cloick "File => Configure Networks", then click the "Add" button in the top half of that window. Select "Manually specify network settings" . Use "Torn" for the network name, server address is irc.torn.com. Port is 6667, no password, no secure connection. Click "OK" [23:14] lol i did that [23:15] Okay, then double-check all the settings [23:15] it keep jumping to server excit [23:16] i try one more time [23:16] valorie: the right win is inputing a point "." [23:16] and the alt gr is inputing a "enter" [23:16] i dont understand [23:17] ] [23:17] [[ [23:18]