[01:55] <axp_> Hi !
[07:06] <didrocks> morning
[08:42] <seb128> good morning desktopers, happy friday
[08:42] <seb128> mvo, hey, does https://code.launchpad.net/~feng-kylin/software-properties/fix-1306494/+merge/240081 look fine to you?
[08:43] <didrocks> morning seb128
[08:43] <seb128> lut didrocks ;-)
[08:44] <mvo> seb128: let me check
[08:44] <mvo> seb128: totally
[08:44] <seb128> mvo, should I merge/upload it?
[08:44] <mvo> seb128: go for it
[08:44] <mvo> thanks
[08:44] <seb128> mvo, thanks
[08:56] <ari-tczew> hello
[08:57] <ari-tczew> I've proposed a merge of simple-scan, would be nice to get it reviewed ;-) https://code.launchpad.net/~ari-tczew/simple-scan/ubuntu/+merge/242459
[08:59] <didrocks> hey ari-tczew ;)
[08:59] <ari-tczew> hey didrocks
[08:59] <didrocks> I guess seb128 is piloting (not sure if he would prefer robert_ancell to review it next week though)
[09:00] <didrocks> ari-tczew: I just looked quickly, I don't think we would to depend on adwaita-icon-theme,
[09:00] <seb128> yeah, that's robert_ancell's land
[09:01] <didrocks> anyway, simple-scan is in main, and adwaita-icon-theme in universe, so either way, either a MIR or depends back on gnome-icon-theme instead
[09:01] <didrocks> (I think we want the latest, we don't want to have some icons not matching the ubuntu theme installed by default)
[09:02] <seb128> mvo, could you also look at https://code.launchpad.net/~brunonova/software-properties/lp1381050/+merge/238873 and https://code.launchpad.net/~brunonova/software-properties/lp1383289/+merge/238890 ? they are small ones as well
[09:02] <didrocks> the rest lgtm, but you should really poke robert
[09:03] <ari-tczew> didrocks: You're right, adwaita-icon-theme is in universe and we should drop this one depend. I'll update branch ASAP.
[09:04] <Laney> hullo thur huppy fruday
[09:05] <didrocks> hey hey Mr Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaney! :)
[09:05] <seb128> hey Laney, happy friday!
[09:05] <Laney> what's up fool
[09:05]  * Laney is a gangster now
[09:06] <didrocks> Friday \o/
[09:06] <Laney> \o/
[09:07] <Laney> hey seb128, good day off?
[09:08] <willcooke> morning all, I'm still ill.  Going back to bed.  Will keep an eye on IRC/mail should anyone want me.
[09:08] <seb128> hey willcooke
[09:08] <willcooke> larsu, ^^^ can we skip our meeting?
[09:09] <willcooke> hey seb128
[09:09] <seb128> got the flu?
[09:09] <didrocks> get some rest willcooke
[09:09] <willcooke> yeah think so.  Sore throat, cough, headache, etc
[09:09] <seb128> k, get better!
[09:10] <willcooke> didrocks, Laney - thanks for covering the meeting yesterday
[09:10] <Laney> np, it was a blast!
[09:10] <didrocks> yw
[09:19] <mvo> seb128: sure, having a look now
[09:19] <mvo> willcooke: get well!
[09:19] <seb128> mvo, danke
[09:21] <darkxst> didrocks, I am pretty sure there are some new icons in adwaita-icon-theme needed for 3.14
[09:22] <darkxst> so either those need to be copied across to gnome-icon-theme, or adwaita-icon-theme needs an MIR (with merge of packaging split like gnome-icon-theme)
[09:23] <larsu> willcooke: of course. Get better!
[09:23] <didrocks> darkxst: yeah, that's maybe a good point. Not related to simple-scan though as we already have 3.14 here
[09:24] <tjaalton> did some fonts change in utopic.. I get either blank space or utf code boxes instead of text in some cases in firefox & thunderbird
[09:24] <tjaalton> and when pasted on a terminal I see the text
[09:25] <darkxst> didrocks, no not related to simple scan, but possibly needed when gtk 3.14 lands
[09:27] <didrocks> agreed
[09:28] <tjaalton> gnome-font-viewer crashes
[09:37] <tjaalton> hm, I can only change the font size, not the font itself.. something is most def broken
[09:41] <seb128> tjaalton, I had issues like that but that looked like xorg stack issues
[09:41] <seb128> e.g restarting the session makes them go away
[09:44] <Laney> ooh
[09:44] <Laney> a new and exciting dpkg failure
[09:44] <Laney> "cycle found while processing triggers"
[09:45] <tjaalton> seb128: gnome stack, but ok
[09:53] <tjaalton> no help here
[09:58] <mvo> seb128: do you want me merge/upload the software-properties stuff or shall I do it?
[09:59] <seb128> mvo, as you wish, I'm fine doing the merge/test/upload if you approve the mps, but it you want to do that feel free as well ;-)
[10:00] <mvo> seb128: ok, let me do it then
[10:01] <seb128> mvo, danke
[10:18] <willcooke> hey mzanetti
[10:18] <mzanetti> hey willcooke
[10:18] <mzanetti> so, seb128, soon we're getting the preliminary desktop thing in unity8 landed
[10:19] <seb128> mzanetti, \o/
[10:19] <mzanetti> and for now we'd require a gsettings override to activate it (until he have some sort of convergence rule thingie)
[10:19] <mzanetti> what would you suggest where to put that?
[10:20] <Laney> ubuntu-settings
[10:20] <mzanetti> that's not installed on phone/tablet right?
[10:20] <Laney> no there is -touch-settings for that
[10:21] <Laney> (check seeded-in-ubuntu ubuntu-settings)
[10:22] <larsu> hi Laney!
[10:22] <Laney> what up larsu
[10:22] <larsu> sencha vanilla
[10:22] <larsu> it's awesome, who'd have thought
[10:22] <Laney> english breakfast \m/ >_< \m/
[10:23] <larsu> of course :P
[10:23] <larsu> how are you?
[10:23] <seb128> mzanetti, you want to know where to install the gsettings key?
[10:24] <mzanetti> seb128: I'm currently searching launchpad for it, got lost in some Infinity OS Settings project :D
[10:24] <mzanetti> seb128: so yeah, please tell me :)
[10:25] <seb128> mzanetti, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas I guess
[10:26] <seb128> Laney, ubuntu(-touch)-settings is about defaults iirc?
[10:26] <seb128> it doesn't have a schemas
[10:26] <Laney> he asked for somewhere to put an override
[10:26] <seb128> no he didn't
[10:26] <seb128> oh
[10:26] <seb128> or I misread
[10:26] <seb128> mzanetti, is the key in e.g the unity8 schemas and you just want to override the value?
[10:26] <mzanetti> seb128: ah wait, we have a key in unity8, given it's temporary for sure (convergence will work different)
[10:27] <seb128> or do you look at where to define the key?
[10:27] <seb128> oh ok
[10:27] <seb128> so what Laney said
[10:27] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings
[10:27] <Laney> apt-get source ubuntu-settings, look in debian/...override, should be obvious what to do but shout if not
[10:27] <mzanetti> exactly, we just want to automatically enable the windowed mode if you run it from unity8-desktop-session-mir somehow
[10:27] <seb128> that's not going to work for your case I think though
[10:29] <larsu> mzanetti: how will convergence work?
[10:29]  * larsu hates temporary solutions
[10:29] <Laney> I think effectively everyone will have it installed, but you could otherwise have a new file in the session package which does this
[10:31] <seb128> Laney, mzanetti, the issue is that desktop next has both ubuntu-settings and ubuntu-touch-settings installed
[10:31] <seb128> so either we need to put an higher priority override in desktop
[10:31] <Laney> why's that an issue?
[10:31] <Laney> there will be one override
[10:31] <seb128> it makes the behaviour a bit randomp
[10:31] <Laney> don't understand
[10:32] <mzanetti> seb128: I guess we're fine as long as the override is NOT installed on phone/tablet
[10:32] <mzanetti> larsu: thsi should explain why we won't have a config value in the end: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1K1oV4vMc-FduKUNYYO62zPUCU5WMb74zjer8KzYzhLg/edit#slide=id.p
[10:32] <seb128> Laney, I don't feel confident that we are not going to get ubuntu-settings installed on some tablet sort of installs at some point
[10:32] <seb128> it feels hackish to depends on what packages are installed
[10:33] <seb128> but at the same time having defaults for touch and non touch seems hackish as well
[10:33] <seb128> so maybe it's ok as a temporary thing
[10:34] <seb128> it would feel more robust if the session job was setting it
[10:34] <larsu> won't we get different defaults depending on XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP?
[10:34] <mzanetti> seb128: yeah, I tend to agree
[10:34] <larsu> could use the same mechanism for this
[10:34] <seb128> larsu, the day we have that we can use them yes
[10:34] <seb128> larsu, but we don't atm iirc
[10:34] <larsu> seb128: I know... I reviewed desrt's patch again but he didn't reply yet (vacation and all)
[10:35] <larsu> seb128: I'll annoy him about it again
[10:35] <seb128> getting there :-)
[10:35] <seb128> thanks
[10:35] <Laney> you can override it in the desktop session package if you want, I don't think it really matters for some hack
[10:35] <Laney> looking at $DESKTOP_SESSION would feel nicer to me
[10:36] <larsu> where's the difference between the two?
[10:36] <larsu> desktop_session and xdg_current_desktop
[10:36] <Laney> DESKTOP_SESSION is just the name of the .session file
[10:36] <Laney> it works now :-)
[10:37] <mzanetti> can we have gsettings overrides at login based on such a env var?
[10:37] <mzanetti> I'm asking for that because we'd like to be able to switch it at runtime
[10:37] <larsu> Laney: oh right. Ya, this should have been finished a long time ago, but desrt and I shaved a yak...
[10:37] <mzanetti> atm you can change the dconf key and it'll transform on the fly between the tablet looks and the desktop mode
[10:38] <larsu> mzanetti: yes, that's the plan
[10:39] <mzanetti> cool
[10:46] <darkxst> mzanetti, its not possible to do per-session gsettings overrides, so they need to be done in code
[10:49] <darkxst> it would certainly be useful though upstream don't seem to interested in the idea
[10:54] <mzanetti> hmm
[10:57] <mzanetti> so how are we going to proceed with this?
[10:59] <darkxst> mzanetti, you need to write code to check the env var
[10:59] <larsu> darkxst: we just talked about this, we want to add being being able to change defaults based on XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[11:00] <darkxst> larsu, that is not possible with gsettings overrides
[11:00] <Laney> mzanetti: ubuntu-settings or a new override in the unity8-desktop-sesion
[11:00] <larsu> darkxst: yes, this is why we want to add it...
[11:01] <darkxst> larsu, add it to glib?
[11:01] <larsu> darkxst: yes, where else?
[11:03] <darkxst> bug 1222053
[11:05] <larsu> darkxst: not sure why you linked to the bug?
[11:08] <darkxst> larsu, between comment #1 and #2 it may be possible to load overrides by setting GSETTINGS_SCHEMA_DIR
[11:11] <Laney> Pretty sure they have worked out how to do it upstream already, the aforementioned yak
[11:11] <Laney> darkxst: I've got someone emailing me asking to update to evo 3.12.8 in gnome3-staging, you going to do that?
[11:13] <darkxst> Laney, for which series?
[11:13] <Laney> trusty
[11:14] <darkxst> probably not, we only plan to support gnome3 ppa for the LTS
[11:14] <Laney> I guess ricotz (never here when you want him)
[11:15] <larsu> darkxst: not sure what the plan is, but probably not based on GSETTINGS_SCHEMA_DIRS
[11:15] <larsu> darkxst: (I'm more involved in the yak-shaving part than the gsettings part)
[11:17]  * Laney emailed ricotz instead
[11:17] <darkxst> larsu, that is how shell extensions get their schemas
[11:18] <larsu> ya, I know
[11:20] <darkxst> and I haven't looked at this stuff in over a year, but seems it would probably be easy enough to do the same with overrides
[11:33] <Laney> larsu: where are gnome module maintainers listed?
[11:34] <larsu> Laney: good question... don't know
[11:34] <Laney> hmm okay
[11:34] <darkxst> Laney, in the doap file
[12:17] <mitya57> Laney: would you mind if I upload my webkit ppc64el patch? I am not able to test it myself, and I don't have enough time if I also want that patch in Jessie.
[12:18] <Laney> mitya57: Ah yeah, let's test that in the porter, shall we?
[12:18] <Laney> Remind me of the bug #?
[12:19] <mitya57> debian #762670 has all needed information
[12:19] <Laney> You should go bug #debian-admin about gettin an account :-)
[12:24] <mitya57> Asked them.
[12:25] <Laney> build-deps installing
[12:25]  * mitya57 hugs Laney
[12:37] <Laney> mitya57: the patch on the upstream report doesn't apply
[12:37] <Laney> fedora one does though
[12:37]  * Laney tries that
[12:38] <mitya57> Laney: oh yes, Fedora's one
[12:40]  * Laney screams every time a program isn't installed
[12:41] <Laney> 'kay, building, will get back to you in an hour or so
[12:41] <Laney> ppc64el is fast
[12:46]  * mitya57 refuses to believe that webkit can build in just an hour
[12:49] <Laney> we'll see about that!
[13:31] <seb128> Laney, do you remember why you did bump the kernel version in your most recent commit on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/installation-guide/ubuntu ?
[13:31] <seb128> you wrote "Bump names for Utopic, including GNOME but not kernel"
[13:31] <seb128> so you deliberately left it out, was that because the version was not decided yet when you did that?
[13:33] <Laney> seb128: no I don't remember but it's probably that
[13:33] <seb128> Laney, ok, thanks
[13:33] <Laney> I don't know why I touched that
[13:33] <Laney> maybe while patch piloting
[13:34] <seb128> that's what I'm doing :p
[14:12] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128!
[14:12] <seb128> hey GunnarHj
[14:12] <GunnarHj> seb128: I should have changed the status of that MP to "work in progress". Just did.
[14:13] <seb128> GunnarHj, thanks!
[14:13] <GunnarHj> seb128: But let me take this opportunity to ask you:
[14:14] <GunnarHj> seb128: There is a pending lightdm MP which proposes that /usr/sbin/lightdm-session is run under bash. That allows for a better solution. Would you have any objections to running Xsession under bash?
[14:15] <seb128> GunnarHj, no objection, I don't think the performance difference is going to be noticable and it seems more robust/easier code to maintain
[14:16] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, thanks, then I'll get back with a revised GDM MP as soon as pitti has reviewed the new lightdm MP.
[14:16] <seb128> ok, great
[14:16] <Sweet5hark> seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/vivid/4.3.3/libreoffice-l10n_4.3.3-0ubuntu2_source.changes http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/vivid/4.3.3/libreoffice_4.3.3-0ubuntu2_source.changes <- ubuntu revision bumped to ubuntu2 for vivid ...
[14:17] <seb128> Sweet5hark, thanks
[14:17] <seb128> Sweet5hark, hey btw, happy friday ;-)
[14:17] <Sweet5hark> seb128: Its Friday? Lets get trolling!
[14:18] <seb128> Sweet5hark, seems like you missed the morning trolls? still have the afternoon to make up for it ;-)
[14:18] <Sweet5hark> seb128: now I know why you came back from vacation for this one day ;)
[14:19] <seb128> hehe
[14:44] <seb128> Sweet5hark, uploaded
[14:44] <seb128> on that note, time for some exercice before it gets dark out there
[14:50]  * Laney shivers
[14:50] <Laney> cold up here
[14:56]  * ogra_ wonders if Laney moved to the US 
[15:08] <Laney> mitya57: some link step is failing, blerg blergy blerg
[15:09] <mitya57> Laney: what error message? it may be just OOM
[15:09] <Laney> none, but no OOM in dmesg
[15:09] <Laney> probably is something like that
[15:10]  * Laney adds some linker flags
[15:16] <Laney> If this fails I'll nab a silo
[15:23]  * Laney uploads nautilus 3.14 to desktop ppa
[15:29] <Laney> ah
[15:29] <Laney> ENOSPC
[15:34] <mitya57> If you upload it into a silo then I can add it to dependencies of my PPA and test Sphinx there.
[15:34]  * mitya57 bbl
[15:34] <Laney> I'm abusing people to clean up their home directories first
[15:35] <Laney> where "abuse" is "ask really nicely"
[15:36] <ricotz> Laney, hi, what will be the e-d-s version for the utopic upload? i assume 3.12.8-0ubuntu0.1??
[15:36] <Laney> ricotz: probably
[15:37] <Laney> if you use ubuntu0~stuff you'll be okay
[15:37] <ricotz> ok, trying to preserve the upgrade path
[15:37] <ricotz> 3.12.8-0ubuntu0.1~trusty1
[15:38] <Laney> thanks for working on it
[15:38] <ricotz> 0ubuntu0~ is problematic for internal deps iirc
[15:40] <Laney> mitya57: you probably don't have a PPA that builds for ppc64el so I don't think you can test it there
[15:40] <Laney> I can copy packages though
[15:51] <axp_> Hi to everyone... is here someone who maintains/develop Ubuntu Software Center ?
[15:55] <Laney> mitya57: okay ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-005 keep an eye on that
[16:06] <didrocks> axp_: hey, mvo did in the past, however there is no such much maintenance nowdays as we'll transition with unity8 to the click store
[16:14] <Sweet5hark> seb128_: thanks
[16:15] <seb128_> Sweet5hark, yw!
[16:15] <Sweet5hark> as for "exercise before it gets dark" -- its so foggy here, one would run into trees even here ...
[16:15] <Sweet5hark> s/here/in bright daylight/
[16:17] <axp_> didrocks: mvo: I found a "unclear" screen about a package
[16:22] <axp_> didrock: mvo: http://imgur.com/wWD5Akk
[16:26] <seb128> hum
[16:26] <seb128> mvo, having any issue with the software-properties changes/upload?
[16:26] <Sweet5hark> willcooke: any update/feedback on bug 1389858 btw?
[16:32] <Laney> ricotz: do you have a vcs for gnome3-staging updates?
[16:32] <Laney> want to merge nautilus into ubuntu-desktop
[16:34] <seb128> Laney, saw bug #1393252 ?
[16:35] <Laney> seb128: nope!
[16:35] <Laney> good stuff
[16:35] <seb128> now you did then ;-)
[16:35] <Laney> looks to be the same
[16:39] <mvo> seb128: no, just busy, if it looks good to you, just upload
[16:40] <seb128> mvo, I didn't look at it since you said you would ;-)
[16:40] <seb128> no worry, there is no hurry
[16:40] <seb128> I just don't want it to fall through the cracks
[16:40] <seb128> I know how it is, friday, then on monday new week start with backlog and crazyness and nobody is going to have slot for that one anymore ;-)
[16:44] <Laney> hmm, it has dialogs with headerbar
[16:49] <seb128> :-/
[16:50] <mvo> seb128: I merged it all, wrote a test
[16:50] <seb128> mvo, thanks!
[16:51] <mvo> seb128: I just upload a build that I need to wait on anyway
[16:51] <mvo> seb128: so let me finish it, sorry again
[16:51] <Laney> sword fight time?
[16:53] <mvo> Laney: sword?!?
[16:53] <seb128> mvo, no worry, thanks ;-)
[16:53] <mvo> uploaded
[16:53] <mvo> Laney: is rock climbing not dangerous enough anymore?
[16:53] <Laney> mvo: https://xkcd.com/303/
[16:54] <Laney> however, I'm now imagining a film scene
[16:54] <Laney> sword fight while climbing some awesome route
[16:54] <Laney> to rescue the president dangling from the top
[16:55] <mvo> Laney: hahaha
[16:56] <dednick> charles: hey. something seems to be off with the indicator-datetime translations
[16:57] <dednick> charles: po files are all for old c code.
[16:58] <seb128> dednick, what serie? example?
[17:00] <dednick> seb128: lp:indicator-datetime. "./src/formatter-dekstop.cpp" has translatable strings but no translation entries exist in po files.
[17:03] <seb128> dednick, I don't see that
[17:03] <seb128> dednick, e.g https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/indicator-datetime/+pots/indicator-datetime/fr/10/+translate
[17:07] <dednick> hm. thats weird. why aren't they in the .po files?
[17:07] <dednick> in the source tree
[17:10] <achiang> willcooke: feeling better today? :)
[17:10] <willcooke> achiang, :) not really
[17:10] <willcooke> should be sleeping, but ya know how it is
[17:11] <willcooke> I'd end up on my laptop in bed anyway
[17:11] <willcooke> so this is probably better
[17:11] <achiang> heh
[17:11] <willcooke> so how's things going out there in the real world ;)
[17:12] <achiang> so i have this unity7 multi-monitor bug that seems trivially reproducible
[17:12] <willcooke> yeah, I read some of the backlog from yesterday
[17:12] <willcooke> its on bregma radar now I think?
[17:13] <achiang> 14.04.1, turn on workspaces, use VGA for external display; then: open gnome-terminal on workspace in upper right on laptop screen. suspend machine. resume machine. gnome-terminal appears on external display
[17:13] <achiang> out here in the real world, it's fun to use ubuntu to actually build other things :)
[17:14] <achiang> except when i'm plagued by this paper cut on a daily basis ;)
[17:14] <willcooke> :)
[17:14] <willcooke> I hear ya
[17:14] <achiang> not sure if it's on bregma's radar; to be fair, i haven't filed a bug report
[17:15] <achiang> but it seems strange that i'm the only one with this issue
[17:15] <willcooke> yeah, I would have expected quite a lot of people to do that kind of thing
[17:15] <willcooke> (plug/unplug monitors etc)
[17:15] <achiang> in my particular case i'm not even unplugging anything
[17:15] <Laney> larsu: construct-only properties and GtkBuilder, how do? you know?
[17:16] <achiang> the vga cable stays plugged in during the suspend/resume
[17:16] <willcooke> oh, yeah, sorry
[17:16] <bregma> it's the same as plug/unplug because it takes so long in dog years for the monitor to be recognized
[17:16] <seb128> dednick, the po in the source are not used/updated
[17:17] <seb128> dednick, we export translations directly from launchpad to langpacks
[17:17] <dednick> seb128: should probably be deleted in that case. it's confusing.
[17:17] <seb128> dednick, we should maybe delete the old .po in the source to avoid confusio
[17:17] <achiang> bregma: but if that's the case, why would windows appear on the slow-recognized display?
[17:17] <achiang> you'd think they'd appear on the fast-recognized one
[17:17] <seb128> dednick, yeah, talk to ted & charles about that I guess
[17:17] <achiang> because that's the one that exists upon resume
[17:17] <dednick> tedg: , charles: ^ :)
[17:18] <bregma> achiang, I'm not saying it's not a bug, but it's related to physical monitor changes
[17:19] <achiang> bregma: hm... is there a way to dump out names of open windows and their coordinates into a text file?
[17:19] <achiang> bregma: that seems like a fair place to start filing a bug report
[17:19] <tedg> Yeah, I think they should go.
[17:19] <bregma> Trevinho, ^^
[17:20] <tedg> I think it'd make indicator-datetime build like 10ns faster as well! ;-)
[17:20] <Trevinho> achiang: well, you can use a script using wnckprop
[17:21] <Trevinho> achiang: or... you install libxpathselect and use the autopitlo interface to get them
[17:21] <Trevinho> (dbus interface)
[17:21] <achiang> groan
[17:24] <achiang> ok, here is an existing bug report that describes another issue i have: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/382056
[17:32] <seb128> hum, my latency to ubuntu.com sites is not good for some days
[17:32] <seb128> is anybody else having similar issues?
[17:35] <willcooke> seb128, had problems getting to answers. earlier
[17:35] <willcooke> sorry, ask.
[17:41] <seb128> Sweet5hark, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1342175 fixed with 3.3?
[17:41] <seb128> Sweet5hark, sorry, 4.3.3 I meant
[17:53] <charles> dednick, +1 on what seb128 says, iiuc the .po files in the repo are leftovers from the tarball days
[17:53] <charles> probably does make sense to remove those old .po files to avoid confusion
[18:05] <Laney> right, happy weekend!
[18:08] <Laney> mitya57: it built there, give me a package to upload and I'll do it some time this weekend
[18:08] <Laney> byeeeeeeeee
[18:17] <dobey> anyone have any idea why nautilus would not be drawing the background and won't open new windows?
[18:19] <didrocks> and with this success (just a minor TODO for Monday \o/) /me waves good week-end
[18:21] <dobey> guess i'll try to reboot and see if it fixes it
[20:23] <ChrisTownsend> achiang: You still around?  I'd like to discuss you "moving windows" issue.