daftykins | i don't even use this old ADSL2+ service but i found this amusing in the local paper today | 00:05 |
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daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/0if1ft7dyhapj9t/IMG_20141120_201259.jpg?dl=0 | 00:06 |
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diddledan | a whopping 256Kbit/s increase | 00:21 |
diddledan | nice | 00:21 |
daftykins | :D | 00:21 |
daftykins | stingy amirite? | 00:22 |
diddledan | they could have left the downstream at the fairly reasonable 16Mbit/s and dedicated the extra speed entirely on upstream capacity | 00:22 |
daftykins | aaaaw yis | 00:23 |
diddledan | which they would have done if they really did care about customers' upload speeds | 00:23 |
daftykins | i think they really want everyone to move to the VDSL2 i'm on | 00:24 |
diddledan | yip | 00:24 |
daftykins | they've been pretty active on it, phoning everyone up O_O | 00:24 |
diddledan | prolly has a better profit margin | 00:26 |
map | hey all | 06:36 |
MooDoo | morning all | 07:57 |
diplo | Morning all | 07:59 |
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DJones | I could spend hours looking at this website http://www.scapaflowwrecks.com/ I don't think I'd ever heard the story behind it before | 09:15 |
brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:17 |
MooDoo | morning | 09:18 |
bashrc | morning | 09:23 |
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brobostigon | morning MooDoo and bashrc | 09:24 |
foobarry | guy behind me gets around 1500 emails overnight he needs to review briefly each one | 09:32 |
zmoylan-pi | define brief :-) | 09:33 |
foobarry | he clicks the mouse for each one. its surprisingly annoying | 09:33 |
foobarry | the delete key would be quiter and quicker | 09:33 |
zmoylan-pi | keyboard shortcuts ftw \o/ | 09:33 |
foobarry | its like an annoying clock that ticks 3x per second | 09:34 |
awilkins | Bayesian classification 4tw | 09:34 |
foobarry | some people deliberately choose jobs to slow their day down | 09:34 |
zmoylan-pi | that wouldn't be a review | 09:34 |
awilkins | Keystrokes on my keyboard would be annoying too though | 09:34 |
zmoylan-pi | a lot of thinking can be done while performing mundane tasks | 09:34 |
awilkins | I have a Model M | 09:34 |
foobarry | potentially silent | 09:34 |
awilkins | And a Cherry with clicky switches for "light duty" | 09:34 |
popey | how has 1500 mails guy not been automated out of this job? | 09:36 |
foobarry | i was suspicous of the "free" lego model from top cshback, but looks like they will come good | 09:36 |
foobarry | popey: its just the first 30 mins of his morning | 09:36 |
foobarry | i would automate it though | 09:37 |
foobarry | some people choose not to make their day efficient or they would have to work harder in the saved tiem | 09:37 |
foobarry | public sector mentality | 09:37 |
bashrc | private sector mentality more like | 09:39 |
bashrc | often it's just out of ignorance though | 09:39 |
popey | I used to love writing scripts to automate myself out of the loop | 09:40 |
foobarry | yeah | 09:40 |
foobarry | more time to do fun stuff | 09:40 |
popey | in fact at Canonical one guy has made it his job to automate me out of work ☻ | 09:40 |
popey | (one part of my day) | 09:40 |
bashrc | :) | 09:40 |
foobarry | thats why some people are on the up, and some are stagnating and in fact going down | 09:40 |
popey | Me and holbach used to review apps going into the store manually | 09:42 |
popey | now it's automated (unless it goes wrong) | 09:42 |
foobarry | computers are good at doing tedious things | 09:44 |
foobarry | shame they can't do anything about the guy behind me who is eating his breakfast in a disgusting manner | 09:44 |
popey | i once write an update script for a hotel in london, had to modify the phone numbers when "07" came in iirc. | 09:44 |
popey | took about 30 mins to write the update code | 09:44 |
popey | then spent half a day making a nice scroll bar and ETA ☻ | 09:44 |
popey | went to the hotel to run it on their live database, and had people crowded round the pc going Oooh, and Ahhh! | 09:45 |
popey | "3 hours left!" | 09:45 |
* popey ♥ dBase III | 09:45 | |
* zmoylan-pi <3 dbase iii+ :-) | 09:50 | |
DJones | Ooh dBase III, thats a blast from the past, I loved the programming language you could use in that, ended up writing systems for the chemical industry back in the late 80's/early 90's using that & dbase II | 09:55 |
popey | ☻ | 09:56 |
popey | yeah, we had to learn dBase at college and then I actually used it a fair amount. | 09:56 |
DJones | Same here, by the time I'd finished that system, it took about 3 hours for staff to input data & produce a 40 page report, compared to the manual method that took a week | 09:58 |
zmoylan-pi | the command line was wonderful once you mastered it | 09:58 |
foobarry | when you grew up in teh 80s the command line was all there is | 09:59 |
zmoylan-pi | and when you type over 100wpm it was enough :-) | 10:00 |
DJones | Running on C/PM on an ICL mini computer that was about 15 feet long, 4 feet high and 2 feet deep, 8 inch floppy disks and doorstops for hard drivespace in an air conditioned room with DRS 20 dumb terminals connect with co-ax cable | 10:00 |
JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Hello Day! :-D | 10:01 |
zmoylan-pi | world hello day? such a wasted opportunity for learn to program hello world day :-) | 10:01 |
* directhex shouts @ visual studio | 10:02 | |
JamesTait | directhex, I think that qualifies as a hello. Maybe. | 10:06 |
zmoylan-pi | depends what words you use... | 10:07 |
directhex | sweary ones | 10:07 |
* zmoylan-pi is not picturing happy fluffy greeting :-) | 10:07 | |
directhex | i need some msvc experts. | 10:07 |
bashrc | I used visual studio back in the day and it was usable but, eh, just proprietary | 10:08 |
* awilkins is not a MSVC exprt | 10:20 | |
awilkins | Have some experience hammering on things until they compile in MinGW though | 10:20 |
* zmoylan-pi tries to think of a irc channel with less msvc folk in it... 'star trek furries fan fiction channel'? :-) | 10:21 | |
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awilkins | "The tribble... bulged." | 10:22 |
foobarry | wut | 10:31 |
awilkins | You see what MSVC does? IT CAUSES HORRIBLE THINGS TO HAPPEN. | 10:34 |
directhex | yay, i got it working | 10:48 |
JamesTait | Apparently I'm eligible for a 30-day trial of Amazon Prime Instant Video. | 10:50 |
foobarry | they have amazon student | 10:51 |
JamesTait | Anyone tried it? | 10:51 |
foobarry | i have an .ac.uk address, in wonder if i can do it | 10:51 |
MooDoo_ | :) | 10:52 |
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MooDoo | bloomin irc lol | 10:56 |
bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 11:59 |
intrbiz | bigcalm: morning | 11:59 |
bigcalm | o/ | 11:59 |
MooDoo | morning BigRedS | 12:28 |
MooDoo | bigcalm: | 12:28 |
bigcalm | ? | 12:36 |
bigcalm | Oh | 12:36 |
bigcalm | Hi | 12:36 |
MooDoo | yeah type doh!# | 12:37 |
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BigRedS | MooDoo: Oh, good morning! I've been losing terminals this morning and only just found this one :) | 12:53 |
MooDoo | BigRedS: what ya playin at ;) | 12:56 |
BigRedS | I think I'm just tired :) | 12:58 |
MooDoo | yeah i know that feeling | 12:58 |
BigRedS | yeah, I keep reattatching to my tmuxes and finding a half-finished thing... | 13:00 |
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arsenip | does anyone use any kind of management panels for things like email/domains/dns/etc (read plesk, webmin etc)? are they any good these days? i once ran a server using webmin, it was great for day0, made it easy to get large numbers of accounts up and running etc, but by day 365 it was a pig, slow, old and stopped me manually interacting with the configs/services. | 14:22 |
foobarry | january issue of magazine out now :-| | 14:22 |
foobarry | the world has gone mad | 14:22 |
arsenip | surprised ive not seen more xmas junk yet actually. | 14:23 |
daftykins | arsenip: what about spiceworks? does that do that kind of jazz 0o | 14:23 |
arsenip | usually it crops up in august | 14:23 |
arsenip | isnt spice the vnc thing? | 14:23 |
daftykins | i know webmin is fully deprecated on all debian bases now | 14:23 |
arsenip | maybe thats not spiceworks | 14:23 |
foobarry | do you want monitoring or mgmt | 14:23 |
arsenip | management, monitoring would be lovely though. | 14:24 |
daftykins | spiceworks is the web admin one that you feed logins then it goes off and scans the whole network etc | 14:24 |
arsenip | i mean, i can manually set up everything, ive got postgfix/dovecot/saslauthd/roundcube etc but .. i just need to set up lots of accounts/users/domains now etc | 14:24 |
arsenip | im reluctant to use anything due to the potential for it to be terrible later in life and regret it, but cant dismiss wihtout at least getting some experienced opinions :p | 14:26 |
daftykins | XD | 14:26 |
foobarry | puppetise everything | 14:29 |
arsenip | yeah but for sub 20 users - quite a lot of effort | 14:32 |
foobarry | yep | 14:33 |
arsenip | especially as puppet is just as likely to go out of date, or atleast teh scripts will do | 14:33 |
arsenip | i want zero maintenance :D | 14:33 |
foobarry | sub contract it | 14:33 |
arsenip | (this is just for my personal mail / web etc ) :D | 14:33 |
foobarry | i left a whole infrastructure of 60 servers and 150 desktops for a couple of years | 14:33 |
foobarry | zero maintenance | 14:34 |
arsenip | i did that. | 14:34 |
arsenip | now im back, migrating it to the 21st centure | 14:34 |
foobarry | security updates auto updated | 14:34 |
arsenip | century.. | 14:34 |
foobarry | mgmt via puppet | 14:34 |
foobarry | ran itself | 14:34 |
arsenip | ive virtualised everything of mine, so i can move vz containers around in future. makes it easy | 14:34 |
BigRedS | I use Postfixadmin for mail | 14:44 |
BigRedS | to answer your qestion of 14:22 | 14:44 |
BigRedS | but other than that, not really. My job is to look after servers, though, so I'm more used to doing in the shell than using a control panel | 14:45 |
BigRedS | I like Webmin, though, for not conflicting with 'normal' configuration | 14:45 |
arsenip | looks like ajenti is similar, but maybe more modern | 14:51 |
arsenip | likewise BigRedS - im a sysadmin, but i dont run lamp/email stuff anymore and dont really have time to set things up in the way they should be. | 14:51 |
arsenip | automated monitoring of ~everything would be nice. | 14:51 |
BigRedS | I wrote a script for installing postfixadmin | 14:54 |
BigRedS | And generally don't bother changing things : | 14:54 |
BigRedS | :) | 14:54 |
foobarry | how can i extract the value of issues from an xml file and show it in an html page? | 14:57 |
foobarry | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><issues total_count="4" offset="0" limit="25" type="array"> | 14:57 |
BigRedS | 'issues' doesn't have a value there | 14:57 |
foobarry | i wanted to show total_count | 14:57 |
foobarry | sorry | 14:57 |
BigRedS | but, generally, either with a parser or a regex depending on your fondness for cthulu | 14:57 |
foobarry | i can do it for <OPEN>14</OPEN> | 14:58 |
BigRedS | what's generating the HTML page? what else is it doing? the better way to do this bit depends on what's already in place | 14:58 |
foobarry | i have a page similar to http://www.w3schools.com/xml/tryit.asp?filename=tryxml_display_table | 14:59 |
foobarry | i've done this before but can't find it anywhere | 14:59 |
BigRedS | ah, javascript! | 15:01 |
BigRedS | can't help with that, I'm afraid | 15:01 |
foobarry | \o/ sorted it | 15:49 |
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BigRedS | whoop! | 15:52 |
markp | hm | 16:02 |
markp | so tired | 16:02 |
diddledan | morning | 16:02 |
markp | i was watching cant pay we'll take it away again - and its staggering how many people just DON'T pay rent..like 12months asnd stuff where they've not paid a penny | 16:03 |
markp | and yet they're more often than not recieving ousing benefit..so they've blown it all ? then get re-housed | 16:04 |
markp | i can totally see why everywhere I've rented always said no DSS | 16:04 |
markp | not worth the risk | 16:04 |
daftykins | :S | 16:08 |
daftykins | idiots living life consequence free | 16:08 |
daftykins | hrmm just linked up a wix.com website to a clients domain - she'd made her site with them 0o | 16:09 |
daftykins | interesting service that | 16:09 |
daftykins | i refused to switch to their name servers though :P | 16:09 |
markp | omg this deep forest music is so cool | 16:44 |
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diddledan | new site has just gone live which I built | 18:32 |
diddledan | fully responsive | 18:32 |
daftykins | ;O! | 18:33 |
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mapps | well thats a pain | 20:30 |
mapps | cant get any cider..they stop serving at 9 | 20:30 |
mapps | :( | 20:30 |
daftykins | wat | 20:42 |
mapps | yes | 20:43 |
mapps | outrageous eh | 20:43 |
mapps | caught up with gotham:D just watched e8 | 20:43 |
mapps | 1 more to go yay | 20:43 |
daftykins | not touched that'un | 20:46 |
daftykins | don't even know what it's about | 20:46 |
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mapps | pfft | 20:48 |
mapps | :D | 20:48 |
daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/wi3k5wlrhqbc31a/IMG_20141121_190804.jpg?dl=0 | 20:54 |
daftykins | never heard of this Guinness original before 0o | 20:54 |
Terminal | How do i install a patch? | 21:16 |
diddledan | patch -p1 < ../path/to/patch | 21:17 |
Terminal | eh? | 21:18 |
diddledan | patches require source code and compilation capability | 21:18 |
Terminal | i dont have a clue what your on about son, i want to install this: http://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/37073/ | 21:18 |
diddledan | if you are unsure about compiling software yourself then you should find a ppa where it's already built for you | 21:18 |
daftykins | 'son' - oh dear. | 21:18 |
directhex | i'd do it for him if he didn't act like a knob. | 21:19 |
daftykins | oh it's THAT user again | 21:19 |
daftykins | yeah you're on your own. | 21:19 |
Terminal | jesus chirst i thought a change of username would hide myself | 21:19 |
diddledan | !language | Terminal | 21:20 |
lubotu3 | Terminal: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 21:20 |
daftykins | your obnoxious attributes shine through | 21:20 |
daftykins | Terminal: 32-bit still failed then huh? | 21:20 |
Terminal | no no no its working prefect :) (not) | 21:20 |
daftykins | can't even answer a question straight. *sigh* | 21:21 |
Terminal | its working prefect. IN all honesty mate its working prefect | 21:21 |
daftykins | i am not your mate. | 21:22 |
diddledan | I'm guessing that's a kernel patch? | 21:22 |
Terminal | i dont have a clue if its a kernel patch? Whats wrong with saying mate? I hear the english say it all the time to strangers. | 21:23 |
Terminal | they dont go "hey mate" "im not your fking mate" and end up punching you unless drunk | 21:23 |
directhex | diddledan, yeah, kernel patch. drm is all in kernel | 21:28 |
diddledan | certainly not something a n00b is going to want to debug if it breaks | 21:29 |
daftykins | someones jumping the gun a bit in general really | 21:29 |
Terminal | im not a n00b. You tell me how to do | 21:30 |
directhex | apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) | 21:30 |
Terminal | so i put that in Terminal correct | 21:31 |
diddledan | are you sure? | 21:31 |
* daftykins facepalms | 21:31 | |
diddledan | definitely not a n00b | 21:31 |
Terminal | am i sure? | 21:32 |
daftykins | Terminal: you should ask in #ubuntu-ru in future, at least then you can speak your native language too. | 21:32 |
Terminal | hahaha i bet they are drunk | 21:32 |
Terminal | on vodka | 21:32 |
daftykins | seems a bit like a stereotype | 21:32 |
Terminal | no no no sterotype but all in seriousness where do i put that bloody patch. | 21:33 |
daftykins | how did you originally find this channel? | 21:35 |
Terminal | i was a bit drunk so i dont have a clue, all i know is its on my history | 21:36 |
daftykins | are you drunk again tonight? | 21:37 |
Terminal | ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i drunk a bit of vodka? | 21:39 |
Terminal | guys, i went on the ru verison and was told to p*ss off because i told them to go f putin | 21:44 |
bigcalm | ... | 21:44 |
DJones | !guidelines | Terminal | 21:44 |
lubotu3 | Terminal: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 21:44 |
Terminal | it wasnt my fault | 21:45 |
DJones | Terminal: Erm, you can't dispute that "i told them to go f putin" (Using your own words), can't blame anybody else | 21:46 |
Terminal | ._. not be drunk when you do crap like that | 21:47 |
daftykins | Terminal: unsurprisingly your poor attitude is preventing anyone from wanting to help you. | 21:51 |
Terminal | maybe i drink coffee than i return | 21:52 |
daftykins | it'd be nicer if you skipped the second half of that altogether | 21:53 |
mapps | play nice everyone; | 21:53 |
mapps | ];] | 21:53 |
daftykins | stay out of it | 21:54 |
Terminal | stay out of what | 21:54 |
popey | Ok chaps. | 21:58 |
popey | Lets dial down the snark here. | 21:58 |
popey | foobarry: I am becoming addicted to surveys on yougov | 21:59 |
* m0nkey_ prods diddledan | 22:00 | |
diddledan | morning m0nkey_ | 22:00 |
m0nkey_ | afternoon | 22:00 |
mapps | these xmini 2 speakers are so handy | 22:06 |
mapps | using 2 linjked together..perfect for travelling:D | 22:06 |
kslick | hi | 22:18 |
mapps | hey | 22:18 |
mapps | well he didnt stay long | 22:18 |
daftykins | you put him off :( | 22:33 |
daftykins | or her | 22:33 |
mapps | ;[ | 22:51 |
mapps | yea i shouldbve said he/she | 22:51 |
zmoylan-pi | i've always gone with 'they' didn't stay long to avoid gendering | 23:14 |
popey | wise | 23:14 |
daftykins | or using the nick every time, gets a tad tedious thoug | 23:16 |
daftykins | h | 23:16 |
Core__ | Hello | 23:32 |
zmoylan-pi | hi o/ | 23:33 |
popey | yo | 23:37 |
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