[04:22] <Kilos> morning all of ya awake already
[04:43] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac 
[04:55] <TinuvaMac> good morning
[04:56] <TinuvaMac> need to reconnect quick i think
[05:14] <Symmetria> man 
[05:14] <Symmetria> I hate cellular providers
[05:14] <Symmetria> so so so much
[05:14] <Symmetria> airtel keeps turning off my roaming as a "security precaution" despite me telling them a million times DONT DO THAT 
[05:14] <Symmetria> and you'd think that with my average spend every month they could get it right (cause trust me, my average cellphone bill is insane)
[05:15] <Kilos> lol
[05:18] <Tinuva> have you ever disputed your bill?
[05:23] <Symmetria> tinuva heh no, my cellphone bill is legit 
[05:23] <Symmetria> nothing to dispute
[05:23] <Symmetria> heh, I average around $5k USD a month on my cellphone :P
[05:23] <Tinuva> bloody hell
[05:24] <Tinuva> but it is understandable why they do it then
[05:24] <Tinuva> try and protect the customer
[05:26] <Symmetria> yeah but you'd think if a customer averages that
[05:26] <Symmetria> they would learn to track that the customer is still within his normal range
[05:48] <Tinuva> heh probably a primitive system that just has one default, and not based on the customer
[05:55] <bduk> More almal
[05:56] <Kilos> hi bduk 
[06:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[06:50] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:11] <Kilos> http://is.gd/OXDOma
[07:11] <Kilos> i wonder why. is it just money or do the see something in google that i dont
[07:12] <Kilos> s/the/they
[07:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> its business
[07:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> deal made over a drunken game of golf probably :)
[07:59] <Kilos> lol
[07:59] <Kilos> hi gremble Xethron 
[07:59] <gremble> Good morning Kilos 
[08:04] <Kilos> Xethron: gone very quiet lately, always here but just lurks
[08:33] <charl> good morning
[08:33] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:33]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:37] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:51] <Kilos> hi charl
[08:51]  * Kilos looking at new weechat
[08:52] <gremble> Anyone here know where you can do Linux certification in South Africa and how much it costs?
[08:53] <Kilos> oh we looked at that a while back there are a couple of places
[08:53] <Kilos> lemme see if i can find monkey
[08:53] <Kilos> maybe someone else remembers too
[08:54] <Kilos> we actually started doing the courses
[08:54] <Kilos> was maybe R1500 for the exam
[08:56] <Kilos> even had a channel for lpi
[08:57] <Kilos> http://www.south-africa.lpi.org/
[08:57] <Kilos> look there maybe you will find the info you need, otherwise we wait for monkey to reply
[09:06] <inetpro> good evening
[09:08] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[09:25] <charl> inetpro: good evening ?!
[09:25] <charl> nono
[09:32] <inetpro> charl: is it Friday yet?
[09:34] <Kilos> hahaha the lost soul speaketh
[10:02] <gremble> Kilos: that website looks rather outdated
[10:03] <Kilos> i dont know what has been done since we abandoned trying to study for the exam gremble 
[10:04] <gremble> Why did you abandon it?
[10:04] <Kilos> but i remember there were a few colleges that said they would hold the exams at the time
[10:04] <Kilos> the tutor found work somehwere else and didnt have time anymore
[10:05] <Kilos> and i gave up because i cant remember stuff
[10:05] <Kilos> same with vim and python
[10:06] <Kilos> too much new stuff in an old head with no space for anything more
[10:06] <Kilos> you can download the training manuals for your own study
[10:07] <Kilos> i could only understand the hardware sections
[10:07] <Kilos> hewhe
[10:07] <gremble> Looking for some of the manuals now. The cources are rather expensive :/ haha
[10:10] <Kilos> maaz lpi manual
[10:10] <Maaz> http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/sites/default/files/LPIManual_v_09.pdf
[10:10] <Kilos> thats the old ones but should help yoiu find the new ones
[10:12] <Kilos> there comes a time in our lives when we must accept our limitations
[10:12] <gremble> Psh
[10:13] <Kilos> lol 
[10:13] <Kilos> i need to get my blog back online so peeps can understand
[10:13] <Kilos> the old peeps here know why i sukkel
[10:15] <gremble> Struggling is half of the fun
[10:15] <gremble> I hate it when I get something right the first time
[10:20] <Kilos> lol
[10:20] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[10:20] <nlsthzn> o/
[10:21] <Kilos> i dont mind struggling gremble , peeps here help me. only i cant remember new stuff
[10:22] <Kilos> my buffers are buffed clean
[10:23] <Kilos> you should have been here with 8.10 then you would have seen
[10:25] <Kilos> the guys spoon fed me for months
[10:25] <Kilos> years
[10:26] <Kilos> ask the pro he will say ai!
[10:32] <gremble> Kilos: Have you thought about making a memory journal? 
[10:33] <gremble> I can't remember everything either, so I have a book in which I write down everything I know, so that it is "remembered" physically
[10:33] <gremble> That way I only have to recall where my book is
[10:33] <gremble> instead of what is in the book
[10:34] <Kilos> lol i have books full but forget whats where so i save important things like usefull commands and so on in folders all over
[10:34] <Kilos> im much better now than back then
[10:48] <Kilos> eish modem tricks again
[11:05] <gremble> I wish I had a big blackboard to work on
[11:10] <Kilos> lol
[11:13] <gremble> These mosquitos will drive me to murder
[11:13] <gremble> I don't know who I will murder, but certainly someone
[11:17] <gremble> Apparently one day long ago Stephen Hawking had an affair with his nurse
[11:17] <gremble> ...
[11:17] <gremble> How?
[11:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> murder the mosquitoes
[11:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> that would seem a reasonable solution
[11:19] <charl> lol inetpro 
[11:28] <Kilos> hi Golynx 
[11:28] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[11:28] <Kilos> what did you win now
[11:29] <Golynx> lol, just the usual gigs of data and more R500 rands airtimes :)
[11:30] <Golynx> i dont understand , this phone i won picks up 3G with cellc , but the dongle only 2G.
[11:31] <Golynx> they must have some weird configurations going on in certain devices
[11:34] <Kilos> what are the dongle specs then
[11:34] <Kilos> and if you hold the fone next to the pc is it still 3g?
[11:35] <Kilos> take the lappy outside and see then
[11:37] <Golynx> the phone is 3G everywhere, in the dongle settings only shows "Cellc (2G)" "VODA (2G) (3G)"
[11:38] <Kilos> even if yougo out with it so there is no obstrution between you and the tower?
[11:38] <Golynx> the dongle fills all the requirments for cellc 3G network specs, dunno why it not picks up 3G
[11:38] <Kilos> ask them
[11:38] <Golynx> the tower is about 200m from my house
[11:38] <Kilos> then fone them and ask
[11:39] <Kilos> or swap sims and see then
[11:39] <Golynx> i did they just said plug in a different port lol and then said its not a cellc dongle we cant help you
[11:39] <Kilos> oh ok
[11:39] <Kilos> see they want your money
[11:40] <Kilos> ask them if you can trade in some airtime for a cellc dongle
[11:40] <Golynx> yeah true
[11:40] <Golynx> lol 
[11:41] <Kilos> does it show only 2g on linux as well?
[11:41] <Golynx> maybe its only fo blackberry that some special features are activated to use 3G 
[11:42] <Golynx> yeah linux same
[11:42] <Kilos> eish
[11:42] <Golynx> i love the speed though , 100MB in 5-10 minutes :)
[11:43] <Golynx> so i just transfer to the pc the big file downloads
[11:43] <Golynx> 100MB usually took me 10 or more hours lol
[11:46] <Golynx> wonder if i can dl ubuntu 14.04 iso :/
[11:57] <Kilos> oh gremble if you look around outside, any pool of water is a breeding place for mozzies
[11:58] <Kilos> a couple of drops of parafin makes a leayer on top then the larvae die
[11:58] <gremble> I have overturned all the buckets, pales and every other container that I can find
[11:59] <gremble> We have a theory that those black and white ones breed in the grass
[11:59] <Kilos> yes and also in plants that can store a tiny bit of water in the leaves
[11:59] <Kilos> cut the grass short hehe
[12:00] <gremble> I live against the mountain. Do you know how long it will take to cut all that grass short?
[12:02] <gremble> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxorhynchites I should get me some of these
[12:02] <gremble> Mosquitoes that eat other mosquitoes
[12:03] <gremble> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aedes_albopictus these are horrible. That wikipedia article says that you don't find them here, but those are the ones that I kill often (or ones that look very similar)
[12:07] <Kilos> also citronella oil candles work
[12:07] <Kilos> or
[12:07] <Kilos> you cab  put citronella oil in a bottle and put a whick through the lid and burn it that way
[12:08] <Kilos> cheaper than the candles i think
[12:08] <Kilos> make like a molotov cocktail
[12:08] <gremble> Thank you for reminding me
[12:08] <gremble> I have citronella and one of those candle things
[12:13] <Kilos> good luck
[12:13] <Golynx> Kilos did you not build the electronic Mosquitoes repeller
[12:14] <gremble> He wanted me to make one haha
[12:14] <Kilos> lol i told gremble to get that software signal generator but he said it is extra work to setup
[12:14] <Kilos> haha i type to slow
[12:14] <Golynx> gremble: oh ok
[12:15] <Kilos> gremble: its variable so you can move the frequency till them bugs run away
[12:17] <gremble> So much effort
[12:17] <gremble> I am already trying to avoid effort :P
[12:18] <Golynx> i did it with few a resistors, capacitors, 9v Battery, 2 PNP transistors, radio speaker... when i were smaller, but you gotta tune it in the field 
[12:19] <Golynx> inside it may pop yoir ear drums lol
[12:19] <Golynx> your*
[12:32] <gremble> http://pastie.org/9734329
[12:37] <Kilos> sigh
[12:37] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[12:37]  * Maaz waves to Kilos
[12:37] <gremble> Why are you greeting the bot? :P
[12:38] <Kilos> lightning hit my cell tower and now only emergency calls
[12:38] <Kilos> and irc of course
[12:38] <Kilos> to check if im connected
[12:38] <gremble> Ouch
[12:38] <Kilos> havent you seen squirm do maaz ?
[12:39] <Golynx> Kilos you okay?
[12:39] <Kilos> ya im fine ty its just the cell tower that had a whack of light
[12:40] <Golynx> oh good, they should increase the earth on cell towers
[12:40] <Kilos> irc is my emergency use of eina tower
[12:40] <Golynx> eish, my power just went off 
[12:41] <Kilos> load shedding coming again
[12:41] <Kilos> eskom reckons they are having technical probs and there is another silo thats cracked
[12:41] <Golynx> its been 2 months since here was loadshedding, guess i can t complain
[12:42] <Kilos> they have added a new wind farm a couple of weeks back
[12:42] <Kilos> 70,000 kw  i think it was
[12:43] <Kilos> now they about ready to start the solar farm that will be a couple of megawat
[12:44] <Kilos> but in the meantime maintenace on other power stations gets shelved
[12:44] <Kilos> madube should have been online already months ago
[12:44] <Kilos> madupe
[12:44] <Golynx> oh thats good to know
[12:45] <Kilos> no man it will take another year now
[12:45] <Kilos> they blew some generators
[12:45] <Kilos> starting without oil feed to turbines
[12:45] <Golynx> yeah we need more solar panels in the Karoo/Northern Cape
[12:46] <Guest18423> are there any solar generating installations that use solar panels?
[12:46] <Golynx> haha, wonder if Eskom even makes a profit
[12:46] <Kilos> nope
[12:46] <Kilos> hi Guest18423 
[12:46] <Kilos> who you?
[12:47] <Kilos> oh graeme
[12:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-)
[12:47] <Kilos> hehe
[12:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> I just found out this morning that the new solar thing that went online a while ago isn't panels, its an array of mirrors that concentrate sunlight on a spot in the centre to heat some sort of molten salt
[12:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> that heated stuff then turns water to steam, steam powers turbine, as per normal
[12:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> when i first heard solar I just assumed it was solar panels
[12:50] <Kilos> wow
[12:52] <Golynx> ThatGraemeGuy: oh those kinda panels
[12:52] <Golynx> we dont have an ants big enough for that beam though :/
[12:54] <Golynx> used to like the smell of roasted ants burning from the magnifying glass beam
[13:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you could somehow get to the central point where it concentrates the reflected light I imagine you'd have a pretty bad time
[13:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/general/114169-biggest-ever-solar-power-plant-in-south-africa.html
[13:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: http://i.imgur.com/pZ0Hmr7.png
[13:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> crazy building project
[13:37]  * Kilos looks when it opens
[13:38] <Kilos> emergency internet very slow
[13:38] <Kilos> wow you collecting hey
[13:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[13:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm going to build a massive rubik's cube
[13:38] <Kilos> i love those mining drills
[13:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> floating in the air
[13:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> bye all enjoy your weekend
[13:41] <Kilos> hahaha
[13:41] <Kilos> you too
[13:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> and enjoy your internet access :'(
[13:41] <Kilos> go safe
[13:41] <Kilos> ty
[13:41] <Kilos> ill fone them now now
[14:19] <Kilos> ai! cant fone telkom, cell says emergencies only
[14:19] <Kilos> but modem is online here with big E showing
[14:20] <Kilos> pcs and modems take priority over cwll phones looks like
[14:20] <Kilos> cell
[18:21] <inetpro> sshhh... I'm sleeping
[18:28] <Kilos> haha me too . just woke to say night all
[18:28] <Kilos> sleep tight