[00:00] <Jordan_U> kristal: I'm not sure what you mean by "log in as a nother user in a window". What is your end goal?
[00:01] <kristal> Jordan_U: I remember a way-better-than nested X program that I used to run another user in a window on my second screen
[00:01] <solsTiCe> kristal: xnest ?
[00:02] <kristal> solsTiCe: I think that was a dep, but it let me log in as another without manual configs
[00:03] <Jordan_U> kristal: What is your end goal?
[00:03] <kristal> Jordan_U: right now I ctrl alt fx to flip users, would like to just run another in a window on my second monitor
[00:04] <RedPenguin> !pastebin
[00:04] <Jordan_U> kristal: Why not just run individual applications as another user, in the same X session? gksu will allow you to do that.
[00:05] <RedPenguin> My RESULTS.txt has been pasted, I swear nothing looks odd
[00:05] <Jordan_U> RedPenguin: Please post a link to the paste here.
[00:05] <RedPenguin> yea that would help
[00:05] <RedPenguin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9134793/
[00:05] <kristal> Jordan_U: when messing with programming it gets kinda painful having to gksu everything
[00:06] <RedPenguin> Also I checked my BIOS and it claims it's set to boot from my HD, so doesn't seem to be a prob there
[00:06] <Jordan_U> kristal: gksu -u otheruser gnome-terminal
[00:07] <therue> did anyone read the install messages i wrote earlier?
[00:07] <therue> ok i'm looking at the messages at the bottom of my install... i see some warningL source ID blah was not found when attempting to remove it
[00:07] <kristal> Jordan_U: ahhh i think i found it, gjsu -u otherme xephyr
[00:07] <therue> failed to acquire autospawn lock
[00:08] <therue> cannot access autospawn lock
[00:08] <therue> should i be concerned about those messages?
[00:09] <Jordan_U> kristal: That is a good way to start a nested X server running as another user.
[00:09] <scimech> therue: how is your install going?
[00:10] <Jordan_U> RedPenguin: Is your internal hard drive listed in your BIOS's boot menus?
[00:11] <Jordan_U> RedPenguin: Never mind, just saw your most recent message :)
[00:12] <therue> it's running
[00:12] <Jordan_U> RedPenguin: Do you see a syslinux boot menu when you boot from the Ubuntu LiveUSB?
[00:12] <therue> you know how you can click at the bottom and it shows a small black screen showing all the command lines as the install is running?
[00:12] <therue> i checked earlier and noticed some  cannot access autospawn lock, cannot acquire autospawn lock messages
[00:12] <Jordan_U> RedPenguin: If so, try the "boot from first HD" option at that menu.
[00:13] <therue> and a bunch of warning, source id blah was not found when attempting to remove it
[00:13] <therue> should this be a concern?
[00:13] <therue> right now it's at Step_before = stepUserInfo
[00:13] <therue> and no more command lines
[00:13] <therue> but install screen still has that circle spinning
[00:13] <therue> so i'm assuming installing is still running
[00:13] <therue> ?
[00:14] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here mess around with xephyr?  when I try to launch steam within display :1 it says can't load glx extension
[00:16] <therue> the main message justr says: creating ext4 file system for /boot in partition #3 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda)...
[00:17] <daftykins> therue: watch if your disk light is still going
[00:19] <therue> still running... another command line just appeared
[00:19] <Oathdynasty> Hey guys. I installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 on my Lenovo Y500, which has GT 650M SLI. Install goes fine, but something gets messed up after nvidia driver install. My screen goes all black, and I can't access TTY. Any ideas, or is there more info I should get?
[00:20] <arrow_> hi, i want edit desktop-login sound, but i need sudo rights. How i make that?
[00:20] <ubuntuaddicted> is it possible to game in xephyr or no?
[00:20] <RedPenguin> Jordan_U: no, looks like the one I used to install doeshn't have that option
[00:20] <RedPenguin> Just live and install
[00:22] <arrow_> Hi, I want to change the desktop login sound and need root privileges for the folder in which these sounds are stored, I have to rename them. What is the command I get this Sudo right?
[00:23] <RedPenguin> oh here we go Jordan_U I tried an old 10.04 instal disc that did have the option
[00:23] <flaiks> anyone have a util for creating a windows 7 install usb in ubuntu ?
[00:23] <RedPenguin> Gives ISOLinux Disk Error 01, AX = 0201, drive 80
[00:23] <reisio> flaiks: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
[00:23] <Oathdynasty> arrow_: should be able to put 'sudo' before the command
[00:23] <flaiks> reisio, thank you
[00:24] <reisio> np homie
[00:24] <TimeVirus> how deez
[00:25] <arrow_> With "Sudo" which has unfortunately does not work. In Ubuntu 14.04 I could do it via sudo -i a shell and then edit the files. In Ubuntu 10.14 this does not seem to work.
[00:25] <arrow_> i mean Ubuntu 14.10
[00:26] <daftykins> so you type "sudo -i" and don't get the prompt change to "root@hostname" ?
[00:26] <TimeVirus> isnt 1404 LTS?
[00:26] <arrow_> yes
[00:26] <Jordan_U> arrow_: sudo mv /old/path /new/path
[00:29] <Jordan_U> RedPenguin: I think that means that your BIOS isn't exposing your internal drive at all.
[00:29] <kristal> I'm lazy and just sudo su to get a root terminal
[00:30] <arrow_> Jordan_U - this command was the also not effective. I need to edit the rights to the files in the folder usr / share / ubuntu / sounds. The desired effect should be that the "welcome melody" is not the standard, but another within the folder.
[00:31] <Jordan_U> arrow_: "not effective" and "doesn't work" aren't very helpful descriptions. What is the exact command you ran? What was its complete output?
[00:31] <RedPenguin> Jordan_U: yea it will not even do a SMART test, yet it installed Ubuntu to it
[00:32] <Jordan_U> RedPenguin: Slightly loose cable?
[00:32] <RedPenguin> Jordan_U: checkin now
[00:32] <albertus> miao
[00:33] <amigamia> hi is precise still supported? i'm running it with crouton on a chromebook
[00:33] <arrow_> I have the command in the terminal: sudo -i started. This had the effect in Ubuntu Trusty Tahr, I on the entire system had the highest rights. This command does not work now, however in Ubuntu Utopic Unicorn.
[00:33] <Zoyt> Is there anyone who knows how I can move my bios_grub partition in gparted?
[00:33] <Jordan_U> amigamia: Yes, 12.04 is an LTS and is still supported.
[00:34] <Jordan_U> arrow_: Again, what is the exact command you ran? What was its complete output?
[00:34] <amigamia> thanks jordan_u
[00:34] <Jordan_U> amigamia: You're welcome.
[00:34] <amigamia> brb
[00:35] <arrow_> After typing: sudo -i, I am prompted to enter the password. But following this, I can not edit the contents of the destination folder.
[00:36] <Jordan_U> arrow_: For now, don't use sudo -i at all as it should not be needed. Please run "sudo mv /path/to/file/old_name /path/to/file/new_name". Post the exact command you run, and its complete output.
[00:37] <arrow_> ok
[00:39] <arrow_> oh yes, its run :-)
[00:39] <arrow_> thanks
[00:40] <Jordan_U> arrow_: You're welcome.
[00:41] <albertus> what kind of thind i can do with ubuntu
[00:41] <albertus> things
[00:42] <albertus> is very similar to windows
[00:45] <albertus> only have less virus
[00:45] <albertus> and the open code
[00:45] <albertus> for other things its the same
[00:46] <albertus> i think so
[00:46] <Zoyt> open source means you can for example make your own spin-off if you so wish and have the knowledge to :)
[00:46] <ubuntuaddicted> i just installed openbox because I want to launch openbox on VT7 but I noticed this line at the end of installing openbox. update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/openbox to provide /usr/bin/x-window-manager (x-window-manager) in auto mode   did it just change my default Xubuntu session?
[00:48] <RedPenguin> Jordan_U: looks like the cable was slightly off the motherbord, but oddly now that I secured it, it's like the PC takes long to go past the BIOS splash screen, but seems good otherwise
[00:48] <albertus> is true
[00:49] <Jordan_U> RedPenguin: I'm not sure how trustworthy your install can be given that the cable was loose the entire time.
[00:50] <RedPenguin> Jordan_U: oh I am reinstalling, but ns why the PC's splash screen is so slow, it's like 30+ seconds before it even attempts to boot
[00:52] <albertus> for example is flase than windows dont reconoigse the drivers and ubuntu yes
[00:52] <albertus> all the drivers
[00:53] <warfaren> when running a live usb, is all of the live distro copied to ram if enough ram is available so i can unplug the USB device after completely booting up?
[00:53] <albertus> easier in linux yes but no more
[00:53] <RedPenguin> now I'm getting ATA link slow to respond lol
[00:54] <Oathdynasty> Hey guys. I installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 on my Lenovo Y500, which has GT 650M SLI. Install goes fine, but something gets messed up after nvidia driver install. My screen goes all black, and I can't access TTY. Any ideas, or is there more info I should get?
[00:55] <daftykins> Oathdynasty: is it an nvidia optimus setup?
[00:55] <albertus> ok i say the truth linux is better than windows technically
[00:55] <albertus> but no more
[00:55] <albertus> nothing more
[00:55] <daftykins> albertus: this is not a channel for your nonsensical ranting, if you want to ask support questions stay, otherwise take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:56] <albertus> ok sorry
[00:57] <Oathdynasty> daftykins: I'm not familiar with optimus, so I'm not sure.
[00:57] <warfaren> Oathdynasty: it's a system to let you switch between your CPU's built in graphics and your GT 650M
[00:57] <daftykins> Oathdynasty: it's where you really have intel graphics and the nvidia ones work in tandem with it. run "lspci" to confirm
[00:57] <warfaren> if your system have that, that is
[00:58] <flaiks> woot
[00:58] <warfaren> ?
[00:58] <flaiks> so i managed to get it working, I didnt re-install windowws in UEFI mode, I just launched the windows installer and re-wrote the MBR for that drive
[00:59] <warfaren> nice
[00:59] <flaiks> will re-install as UEFI at a later date. no time for that right now.
[00:59] <flaiks> will grub be able to detect windows now ?
[00:59] <Oathdynasty> daftykins: One sec while I liveboot a usb
[00:59] <warfaren> hopefully. did you try?
[00:59] <squinty> .........famous last words "I will later...."  ;-)
[00:59] <flaiks> warfaren, just ran update-grub, no dice
[01:00] <flaiks> but i can just select the drive when i boot my computer
[01:00] <flaiks> not a big deal
[01:00] <flaiks> i have ubuntu installed as UEFI
[01:00] <flaiks> and windows as Bios
[01:00] <flaiks> so, i doubt they're compatible
[01:00] <warfaren> flaiks: i see. so you have separate drives with different bootloaders installed to their MBR's
[01:00] <flaiks> warfaren, basically yeah
[01:00] <warfaren> ubuntu as UEFI huh
[01:00] <warfaren> i've never tried that
[01:00] <flaiks> warfaren, it did it automatically
[01:00] <warfaren> okay
[01:00] <Oathdynasty> daftykins: what am I looking for in the lspci output?
[01:01] <daftykins> Oathdynasty: intel and nvidia.
[01:01] <flaiks> anyone else have a gtx770 ?
[01:01] <flaiks> nvidia drivers broke my system
[01:01] <Oathdynasty> daftykins: I do see both.
[01:01] <warfaren> lspci | grep VGAIf
[01:01] <warfaren> is supposed to find optimus if you have it, according to a forum thread i found
[01:01] <daftykins> Oathdynasty: then optimus it is, you can't just install nvidia drivers as standard, you must use nvidia-prime or bumblebee
[01:02] <daftykins> warfaren: nope. it is not a device name
[01:02] <warfaren> okay. someone suggested it but i didn't read the whole context of the post so it might not be right
[01:03] <Oathdynasty> daftykins: Ok. So I should chroot into the laptop, apt-get purge nvidia-current, and apt-get install nvidia-prime?
[01:03] <warfaren> oh sorry i see it now. he actually was writing "If..." after the command but he failed to make a space so you were just supposed to grep for VGA, nothing else
[01:03] <squinty> could also just install inxi and issue the command  inxi -Gx   will show current state of display adapters, drivers etc
[01:03] <warfaren> Oathdynasty: guess you could do it from recovery too?
[01:04] <daftykins> Oathdynasty: certainly purge nvidia* then reboot, it'll be back to normal then. you can use the drivers offered from additional hardware/drivers to get prime up and running i think
[01:04] <flaiks> how can I execute .run files in ubuntu ?
[01:04] <daftykins> flaiks: if that's a graphics driver, you're doing it wrong.
[01:04] <warfaren> chmod +x the .run, and ./file.run ?
[01:04] <teward> flaiks: whiel I don't recommend runningi random `run` files... `chmod +x FILE.run`  then `./file.run`
[01:04] <flaiks> daftykins, its the one from the Nvidia website
[01:04] <squinty> may need to nuke or mv  xorg.conf (if present)
[01:04] <daftykins> flaiks: yes, don't do that. this isn't Windows
[01:04] <teward> flaiks: yeah don't run that
[01:05] <teward> (as daftykins said, this isn't Windows)
[01:05] <warfaren> sometimes you'd have to do that though because the drivers in the repo are too outdated and wont let you run steam and stuff
[01:05] <flaiks> well the ones from the repo break my system
[01:05] <warfaren> but be sure to try the ones from the repo first
[01:05] <daftykins> "won't let you run steam" is rubbish i'm afraid
[01:05] <warfaren> well you weren't using the specific ones for optimus then were you?
[01:05] <flaiks> lol
[01:05] <warfaren> it happened to me before a few times
[01:05] <flaiks> nawh
[01:05] <warfaren> it complains about outdated drivers
[01:05] <warfaren> some GLX features missing or whateve
[01:05] <flaiks> i installed the nvidia-304 driver from repo, and it booted into a black screen with an X for my mouse cursor
[01:06] <flaiks> so I had to go into recovery root shell and remove them
[01:06] <flaiks> to get back in
[01:06] <warfaren> then i replace it with the latest .run from nvidia/amd and it works
[01:06] <warfaren> not sure if i had the problem with nvidia but with amd i did for sure
[01:06] <daftykins> that's a bad way to install drivers under Ubuntu and shouldn't be advised
[01:06] <Sachiru> Query: Is it possible to install a local smtp server on a residential ISP and have it send email alerts (from the various VMs connected to the network on this local smtp server) to a gmail account, without said emails being marked as spam?
[01:06] <flaiks> daftykins, which way ?
[01:06] <flaiks> daftykins, from the nvidia source, or from apt-get ?
[01:06] <Sachiru> I have a home lab and want to implement overheat and other email alerts.
[01:06] <daftykins> via manual downloads = bad.
[01:07] <warfaren> well alright i would never recommend it OVER getting it from repo anyway
[01:07] <flaiks> daftykins, im going to trust you on that
[01:07] <warfaren> obviously that is far superior if it works
[01:07] <daftykins> Sachiru: ask your ISP if they block the port forwarding
[01:07] <flaiks> BUT, they're from the nvidia site, not some random source
[01:07] <Sachiru> They do not
[01:07] <warfaren> flaiks: from apt-get but not the ones you were using before
[01:07] <flaiks> warfaren, the ones I was using before are from apt-get
[01:08] <warfaren> yes but different ones from apt-get
[01:08] <warfaren> like he said before
[01:08] <daftykins> Sachiru: being labelled as spam involves a lot more that a home setup would need a fair amount of work to configure - beyond the scope of this channel too
[01:08] <warfaren> nvidia-prime package from apt-get or whatever
[01:09] <flaiks> im going to try the nvidia-current again but disable my onboard video
[01:09] <flaiks> apparently thats a thing
[01:09] <Sachiru> Thanks. I can do the configuration myself, would just like to confirm if emails sent from a dynamic IP without reverse DNS would be automatically marked as spam.
[01:09] <warfaren> so you tried nvidia-prime?
[01:09] <warfaren> because nvidia-current are the regular ones for non-optimus machines
[01:09] <daftykins> Sachiru: this is not gmail support.
[01:09] <flaiks> i have a gtx770
[01:09] <daftykins> warfaren: that's not the same user - unless flaiks is running optimus too
[01:09] <flaiks> dont think its optimus lol
[01:09] <warfaren> sorry i'm confused :D
[01:09] <daftykins> nope sounds like non-optimus :>
[01:10] <daftykins> nn all
[01:10] <warfaren> didn't realise there were 2 people talking about nvidia drivers hehe
[01:10] <warfaren> my bad
[01:10] <warfaren> i should get some sleep :)
[01:11] <warfaren> sorry for reapting myself but i think my question wasn't seen before: when running a live usb, is all of the live distro copied to ram if enough ram is available so i can unplug the USB device after completely booting up?
[01:12] <flaiks> sweet
[01:12] <flaiks> worked
[01:12] <flaiks> just had do disable integrated graphics
[01:12] <warfaren> nice
[01:12] <Ekarus> warfaren, I asked a similar question long ago and the answer seemed to be no
[01:12] <warfaren> ok
[01:13] <Oathdynasty> warfaren: how do I boot into recovery on ubuntu? holding shift during boot brought me to a blinking cursor
[01:13] <warfaren> i guess it's safer to try with a live cd than a live usb?
[01:13] <warfaren> Oathdynasty: so you didn't manage to bring up the grub menu?
[01:13] <warfaren> it's one of the options in the grub menu
[01:13] <Oathdynasty> No. This is a UEFI laptop
[01:13] <Ekarus> Pretty sure both are safe, neither touches the hard drive unless you mount it :D
[01:13] <warfaren> oh yeah wow. i have no idea then sorry.
[01:13] <warfaren> never thought about that :D
[01:15] <squinty> Oathdynasty:  iirc uefi needs the esc key pressed to bring up grub menu
[01:16] <warfaren> i googled for that and i'm surprised to say that i didn't find a single relevant result
[01:16] <warfaren> searched for "uefi grub menu" , "gpt grub menu" and "how to bring up grub menu uefi"
[01:17] <warfaren> you'd think someone asked it...
[01:18] <Oathdynasty> squinty: Thank you!!!
[01:19] <squinty> Oathdynasty:  yw
[01:20] <warfaren> yeah thank you from me too, really good to know!
[01:23] <Oathdynasty> I can't seem to boot into recovery with anything useful
[01:24] <Oathdynasty> Any prompt I get disappears after about a second. Just going for a fresh install. Not trying to fix this.
[01:26] <chris112> hibernate is not working. second screen goes to standy, gnome disappears and only a cursor on a black screen is visible. but the pc never goes to sleep. after a while of showing only the cursor the pc springs back to life. how can i find out what blocks the machine form going to hibernate?
[01:27] <lasdam> hi. I'm pissed off at the chess game and want to remove it. how do I remove gnu-chess without also having to remove all of gnome* .....
[01:31] <kev> l
[01:32] <warfaren> lasdam: so you tried apt-get remove gnu-chess and it's suggesting to remove all your gnome packages aswell?
[01:32] <lasdam> yes. I've had this problem many times before with other software as well
[01:33] <Loshki> warfaren: last time I encountered this issue, the ubuntu live cd would occasionally refer to the CD while running, so you couldn't remove it. I think knoppix guarantees entirely run-from-ram.
[01:33] <warfaren> Loshki: i see, thank you
[01:34] <lasdam> warfaren: I mean gnome-chess* (but I did try to remove non-gnome software before and like 30 other packages, including gnome, "was to be REMOVED" accordingly, just for a very minor package/piece of software
[01:34] <warfaren> lasdam: i dunno if it's the best solution but you could "pin" the packages you want to keep
[01:35] <warfaren> that will prevent them from being uninstalled
[01:37] <warfaren> lasdam: i tried myself to see if i got the same problem as you, but no
[01:37] <warfaren> $ sudo apt-get remove gnome-chess*
[01:37] <warfaren> The following packages will be REMOVED: gnome-chess
[01:37] <warfaren> only that
[01:38] <therue> back
[01:38] <therue> so the install never finished
[01:38] <therue> i had to restart my comptuer in order to quit it
[01:38] <therue> dont know why... it just takes forever
[01:38] <lasdam> warfaren: so what does that mean? (also how do I pin packages, and can I pick with a wildcard, like 'gnome*'?)
[01:39] <warfaren> lasdam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[01:39] <warfaren> should probably have all the info you want :)
[01:39] <warfaren> i hope
[01:40] <warfaren> haven't messed around a lot with it myself so i don't know :D
[01:41] <warfaren> from what i can see it doesn't take wildcards which might be a pain in the ass for you if there are a lot of packages to pin. you could write a simple script to generate the content of the pinning file but i'm sure there must be a better way
[01:41] <warfaren> such as understanding why apt-get is going berserk in the first place
[01:42] <warfaren> (as you saw from my test it's not supposed to remove all your gnome* packages when you uninstall gnome-chess)
[01:43] <frowni> Does anyone remember " schlong.irc " script?
[01:43] <Oathdynasty> Nvidia-prime is what I'm installing, correct?
[01:44] <lasdam> warfaren: I pinned down 'gnome*', unpinned gnome-chess, but I get this error when trying to remove gnome-chess now: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:44] <lasdam>  gnome-games : Depends: gnome-chess (>= 1:3.8) but it is not going to be installed
[01:44] <lasdam> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[01:45] <warfaren> ugh..
[01:45] <warfaren> i wish i was better at this
[01:46] <warfaren> so it's actually trying to install gnome-games as you uninstall gnome-chess?
[01:46] <lasdam> yes
[01:46] <warfaren> maybe there are other package installs waiting to complete before you remove gnome-chess ... did you try just apt-get install -f and see what it says?
[01:46] <lasdam> and 'gnome' as well earlier, but I guess it gave up on that one for some reason
[01:47] <warfaren> maybe not carry on if it suggest something that doesn't look good, but at least see what it wants to do
[01:47] <lasdam> nothing on install -f
[01:47] <lasdam> (only '2 not upgraded')
[01:47] <warfaren> hm okay
[01:47] <therue> so ya install failed again
[01:47] <therue> twice now :\
[01:47] <warfaren> try apt-get remove gnome-games ?
[01:47] <axp_> hi to everyone here !
[01:48] <warfaren> actually try apt-get remove gnome-game gnome-chess
[01:48] <warfaren> games*
[01:48] <warfaren> sorry
[01:48] <warfaren> hi axp_
[01:48] <lasdam> meh, I don't actually want to delete the rest of the games, but I'll do it anyway just to learn something from this
[01:48] <lasdam> I can reinstall anyway
[01:49] <warfaren> oh.
[01:49] <warfaren> i see, i didnt think you had that package installed
[01:49] <warfaren> as it seemed to want to install it as you were removing gnome-chess
[01:49] <axp_> where I can send a screenshoot about a mistake on Ubuntu Software Center ?
[01:49] <lasdam> also it didn't work. it won't even allow me to just remove gnome-games
[01:50] <warfaren> maybe cuz it's pinned?
[01:50] <lasdam> no, I did apt-mark unhold gnome-games
[01:51] <warfaren> not sure if holding and pinning is related like that?
[01:51] <lasdam> meh, I see now, "Holding" is an alternative to "Pinning" <.<
[01:52] <warfaren> i think they're related but for slightly different things
[01:53] <lasdam> I unholded gnome* and now it allows me to remove gnome-games, but also insists on removing gnome along with it.
[01:53] <jacob_koelling> was up
[01:53] <jacob_koelling> any ladies wanna chat
[01:54] <axp_> some Ubuntu developer here ?
[01:54] <warfaren> jacob_koelling: this is a support channel for the ubuntu operating system... not sure what you were really expecting?
[01:54] <Guest26979> Im having trouble getting opengl working in virtual box
[01:54] <lasdam> I guess this would be the time to start pinning. though I'm not sure I'm gonna be bothered to editing several files manually in a slightly awkward format to me just to pin down individual packages..
[01:55] <warfaren> haha
[01:55] <warfaren> lasdam: hence my suggestion of making a script generate that content for you
[01:55] <warfaren> i can probably write it for you if you tell me the results you want
[01:56] <lasdam> right, so you mean my script would take wildcard input and generate the output for the various files?
[01:56] <warfaren> yep
[01:56] <warfaren> and even write the output to the correct file(s)
[01:57] <warfaren> so long as it's okay to be put in the end of the file. if it needs to go to some specific line i'm not sure i'm gonna bother
[01:57] <lasdam> you think pinning these packages will solve my problem?
[01:57] <lasdam> similar future problems*
[01:57] <warfaren> i have no idea really. it was something my friend suggested me to do a long time ago when i was in the same situation you are now
[01:57] <warfaren> i did not actually end up doing that, though
[01:58] <sayurelektronik> Assamu'alikum
[01:58] <lasdam> warfaren: hmm ok
[01:59] <lasdam> warfaren: sounds like you've got some more efficient/better configurations or something than me so that your apt doesn't insist on removing gnome etc along with gnome-chess though
[02:00] <warfaren> lasdam: maybe.. i dunno. anyhow let me know if you want me to make you that script. just provide me the sample output you want and i'll write the code
[02:01] <warfaren> best to upload that sample to pastebin so i can see everything with tabs and stuff
[02:04] <lasdam> I appreciate that, but I think I rather just sit here and hate both humanity (for other reasons) and computers/Linux for a while instead. so much unnecessary complexity everywhere, and I'm pretty tired of bowing to it and allowing it run my life. I hate when things doesn't make sense, and this doesn't make sense, and life doesn't make sense currently, so f all of it. anyway, I appreciate your help.
[02:05] <warfaren> i waas thinking something like this: http://pastebin.com/tDiu3mGY
[02:05] <warfaren> i see, sorry to see you say that
[02:08] <a_b1> Hi guys
[02:08] <a_b1> I have a question.
[02:09] <warfaren> Surely this must be wrong? The title says "Desktop Preferences" but the description is about pcmanfm? http://imgur.com/o3rfjU6
[02:10] <a_b1> Can i make character device using mknod as nor root user in Linux system?
[02:10] <warfaren> and if so, where does one report an error like that?
[02:10] <a_b1> is it possible?
[02:12] <warfaren> a_b1: i don't think so. i just tried in a directory where i have write permissions and it still said operation not permitted
[02:12] <warfaren> i could be wrong though
[02:20] <ubuntuaddicted> im trying to run a seperate X server which i have working, it's running openbox but when I try to launch steam, the client isn't rendering text or basically anything. here's the terminal output /home/buildbot/buildslave_steam/steam_rel_client_ubuntu12_linux/build/src/vgui2/src/surface_opengl.cpp (563)
[02:20] <ubuntuaddicted> oops, didn't mean to post that. here's the pastebin http://pastebin.com/FTabjpwk
[02:20] <cholcobo[]> does ubuntu's default install come with a video editing program?
[02:20] <dorkusmaximus> I'm trying to create a dual boot system with Windows 7 and Ubuntu. If I install Ubuntu first, then Windows says it cannot install because the disk uses GPT. If I install Windows first, then Ubuntu can't find the Windows partition during install and shows a completely blank disk. What do I need to do?
[02:21] <tytan64> Hey. Is Kernel 3.13 really the latest kernel available for Ubuntu 14.04.1?
[02:23] <tytan64> cholcobo[]: no. but you can install PiTiVi
[02:23] <cholcobo[]> tytan64 cool thanks.  that's currently the best video-editor for linux right now?
[02:24] <cholcobo[]> reisio you see that?  that's how you help people in a support channel.  you can learn from tytan64
[02:24] <tytan64> cholcobo[]: Sorry. I don't know much about video editing. But you read very often about pitivi on omgubuntu
[02:24] <ubuntuaddicted> is anyone familiar with launching a separate X server? and then launching steam in that?
[02:25] <warfaren> ubuntuaddicted: that's funny, i was thinking about doing that earlier today
[02:25] <warfaren> haven't tried it yet though
[02:25] <zerty> How do I get my steelseries mouse to not suck in ubuntu -_-
[02:26] <warfaren> zerty: please describe the problem you're having
[02:26] <Bashing-om> tytan64: sysop@1404mini:~$ uname -r >> 3.13.0-39-generic .
[02:26] <ubuntuaddicted> warfaren, i'm trying to do this because i run dual monitors and my gaming monitor in front of me is at +1920,0  so X server is sync'ing to the display that's on the left, so i'm getting screen tearing on my gaming monitor.  i can't get steam to run correctly though, i'm getting this output from the terminal
[02:26] <tytan64> cholcobo[]: There was also "Lightworks" I believe
[02:26] <ubuntuaddicted> warfaren, http://pastebin.com/FTabjpwk
[02:26] <zerty> I have a sensei and cant change the dpi with the steelseries utility because of no linux support so my sensitivity is insanely high and feels weird
[02:27] <tytan64> Bashing-om: Is there a proper way to get more recent kernels like you can in debian using backports?
[02:27] <zerty> Have changed setting within the mouse utility to the lowest but it still feels epically different than my windows sensitivity
[02:28] <warfaren> zerty: please try the following command: xset m 1 1
[02:28] <liuxg> how to resolve the recording noise when using the kazam? I got a big noise when recording, and it makes very bad
[02:28] <warfaren> zerty: (that also disables mouse acceleration)
[02:28] <warfaren> ubuntuaddicted: wow, that's a lot of errors.. not sure what to make of it
[02:29] <zerty> actually feels a lot better I will test it in counter-strike now thanks
[02:29] <warfaren> zerty: nice. please be aware that you have to add that command to your startup programs to make it come back after reboot
[02:30] <Oathdynasty> warfaren: can I verify that nvidia-prime is installed  correctly?
[02:31] <tytan64> There must be a way to get a more recent kernel in Ubuntu LTS, mustn't it?
[02:31] <warfaren> Oathdynasty: dpkg -l | grep nvidia-prime should verify that it's installed, but i don't know how to verify that it's actually being used
[02:31] <somsip> !mainline | tytan64
[02:32] <Oathdynasty> warfaren: awesome, thanks. Is there much difference between prime and bumblebee?
[02:32] <ubuntuaddicted> warfaren, yeah, steam isn't rendering all the way. here's a screenshot https://picasaweb.google.com/107176979245466375817/Public#6083980656126332914
[02:33] <warfaren> Oathdynasty: no idea really, sorry
[02:34] <warfaren> ubuntuaddicted: i see, did you try a game too?
[02:34] <tytan64> I meant a way which is kept up to date by apt ^^
[02:34] <liuxg> I am now using the kazam to record a video. However, I get some noise when recording. May I know how I can get rid of the noise? thanks
[02:36] <kostkon> tytan64, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[02:36] <ubuntuaddicted> warfaren, not yet. i want to get the damn client to render properly first. i'm confused why the terminal output is referring to /home/buildbot/buildslave_steam/
[02:38] <warfaren> ubuntuaddicted: that's not your home directory i'm assuming?
[02:38] <ubuntuaddicted> warfaren, nope
[02:38] <squirtle_51> Can anyone help me set up an rsync process as a cronjob? I've never used cron before.
[02:38] <warfaren> ubuntuaddicted: probably something from valve's compiling machine
[02:39] <tytan64> So Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will get a more recent kernel in february of 2015 :)
[02:39] <warfaren> squirtle_51: how often do you want it to run? there's /etc/crontab for very specific times, and there's /etc/cron.{daily,hourly,monthly,weekly} which is a little more simple
[02:39] <kostkon> tytan64, indeed
[02:40] <Bashing-om> tytan64: Also see: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/linux-kernel-3-12-released-install-ubuntu-or-linux-mint/ .
[02:40] <velho> hello my friends! can I switch  the window buttons menu: minimize,maximize,close in Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[02:40] <tytan64> velho: switch=change?
[02:40] <warfaren> velho: probably. you would be configuring or replacing your window decorator program
[02:41] <squirtle_51> warfaren: Hourly would be fine. I just want to ensure 3 or four folders stay synced  between two laptops. I saw where I can use the @daily shorcut, but I can't quite figure out how to set up the file.
[02:41] <warfaren> squirtle_51: simply put your script in /etc/cron.hourly/ and make it executable
[02:41] <warfaren> that will run that script as root every hour
[02:42] <velho> tytan64, yes
[02:42] <squirtle_51> Perfect. Thank you!
[02:42] <velho> warfaren, how to?
[02:43] <tytan64> warfaren:  always as root?
[02:43] <warfaren> by default, cron jobs are run as root, right?
[02:43] <tytan64> idk
[02:44] <warfaren> the cron daemon is run by root so that would make sense. but you can specify it to run as another user if you want to
[02:44] <tytan64> But that could help keeping the notebook of my mother up to date :)
[02:44] <warfaren> sure
[02:44] <warfaren> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y
[02:44] <warfaren> or dist-upgrade
[02:45] <warfaren> i guess
[02:45] <tytan64> like an automatic forced updating
[02:45] <warfaren> yeah, that's what -y is for
[02:45] <warfaren> so it doesn't stop to ask questions
[02:45] <warfaren> which couldn't be answered anyway as there is no terminal to input anything into
[02:45] <tytan64> warfaren: can I do that with debian, too?
[02:46] <warfaren> certainly. cron should be available on all distros as far as i know
[02:46] <warfaren> it's UNIX legacy i guess
[02:46] <warfaren> been around forever
[02:46] <reisio> Unix, yes
[02:46] <reisio> also something all sane OSes in general can manage, one way or another
[02:46] <reisio> and also half sane
[02:46] <warfaren> yeah.
[02:47] <reisio> and less-than-half sane :p
[02:47] <tytan64> so cool! I'm using Ubuntu since version 8.04 LTS. But I have never heared of it before :D
[02:47] <reisio> cron?
[02:47] <warfaren> velho: oh yeah.. uhh. i'm not sure which window decorator you're currently using. i'm guessing you run a standard ubuntu?
[02:47] <reisio> cron is like, ubré useful :p
[02:47] <tytan64> yup
[02:47] <reisio> crontab -l, crontab -e
[02:47] <reisio> nomnom
[02:48] <warfaren> :)
[02:48] <reisio> and there's anacron for weird stuff
[02:48] <reisio> and 'at' for weirder stuff
[02:48] <tytan64> anacron from nikki minage
[02:48] <reisio> and then you can combine cron with a shell script that has further logic...
[02:48] <warfaren> yeah. anacron runs stuff that cron missed upon next bootup iirc?
[02:48] <reisio> nomnom
[02:48] <reisio> tytan64: heh
[02:48] <reisio> anacron is useful for systems that illogically are not on all the time, yeah :)
[02:48] <tytan64> Thanks for telling me about cron :)
[02:48] <warfaren> :)
[02:49] <warfaren> there's not much that can't be automated in the world of *nix
[02:49] <squirtle_51> warfaren: If I run the following, will it keep those folders synced, or will it just push everything from local to the server PC?
[02:49] <squirtle_51> http://pastebin.com/P6vDHEpA
[02:49] <warfaren> it's really one of the things i love most. never having to mess around with stuff and just get to work with what you want to do once you have everything set up
[02:50] <tytan64> Do you have something else cool to share?
[02:50] <warfaren> squirtle_51: i don't actually know rsync, but i'm sure someone else can answer that
[02:50] <squirtle_51> warfaren: Thanks, haha.
[02:50] <reisio> yup
[02:50] <reisio> Unix is for the lazy :)
[02:51] <warfaren> tytan64: well, it's hard to think of *anything* but if you can put me on a thought track i might be able to think of something :P
[02:51] <tytan64> reisio: I'm that lazy my gf calls me sloth sometimes ._.
[02:51] <squirtle_51> reisio: Leave it to *nix users to ssh into the PC across the room and turn it down via alsamixer :D
[02:52] <velho> warfaren, yes indeed! I'm using the default Ubuntu
[02:52] <velho> warfaren, Can the windows buttons be changed in this window decorator?
[02:53] <warfaren> velho: http://askubuntu.com/questions/174292/how-can-i-move-all-the-window-controls-to-the-right-or-left maybe this could help?
[02:53] <reisio> tytan64: tolerance is a fine quality in a female
[02:53] <cholcobo[]> reisio did you see earlier?
[02:53] <reisio> squirtle_51: noway man, that's what webUIs on your phone are for :p
[02:53] <cholcobo[]> that guy gave me the name of a video-editiong program for linux
[02:53] <reisio> ssh is too much work indeed :p
[02:53] <cholcobo[]> he helped me
[02:53] <cholcobo[]> it was so cool
[02:53] <reisio> cholcobo[]: ?
[02:53] <reisio> cholcobo[]: neat
[02:53] <cholcobo[]> reisio you should scroll up and see the magic
[02:53] <reisio> what'd he say?
[02:54] <cholcobo[]> he basically did the opposite of what you did, which was be retarded and gay
[02:54] <cholcobo[]> ;)
[02:54] <cholcobo[]> later fag
[02:54] <cholcobo[]> CHOLBY RULES!
[02:54] <reisio> later bro
[02:54] <Mala> How do I access my floppy Diskette drive?
[02:54]  * cholcobo[] slaps her pussy for FREEDOM!
[02:54] <squirtle_51> reisio: *goes to download that*
[02:54] <reisio> Mala: you got a /dev/fd0?
[02:54] <Mala> a what?
[02:54] <reisio> Mala: file /dev/fd0
[02:55] <velho> warfaren, have you done this?   http://askubuntu.com/questions/174292/how-can-i-move-all-the-window-controls-to-the-right-or-left/451330#451330
[02:55] <Mala> let me run the file search thingy.
[02:55] <squirtle_51> Actually reisio, is there a webUI or remote control app for Banshee that actually works?
[02:55] <clarinet1> hi, all
[02:56] <warfaren> velho: ooh sorry, didnt see it didnt apply to unity
[02:56] <warfaren> velho: you could do that but it will change a lot of other things aswell
[02:56] <velho> warfaren, that's what I suspect. Guess I need to change the windows decorator from unity to gnome???
[02:56] <velho> warfaren, what other this will change?
[02:57] <warfaren> the overall look of your desktop i guess
[02:57] <warfaren> instead of having the launcher bar to your left it will be a different bar at the top/bottom etc.
[02:57] <warfaren> if i understood it correctly
[02:58] <warfaren> you could try it out though, if you don't like it you can just switch back to unity and we'll start over from there
[02:58] <zerty> xset m 1 1
[02:58] <warfaren> there's a selector (as he mentions) on the login screen
[02:58] <warfaren> yeah
[02:58] <zerty> how do i make this execute when I start :0
[02:58] <warfaren> be sure to put that in your startup applications
[02:58] <zerty> ubuntu
[02:58] <warfaren> add a new entry, call it "fix mouse" and in execute you put that very command
[02:58] <velho> warfaren, "that" what?
[02:59] <reisio> squirtle_51: dunno, probably
[02:59] <reisio> squirtle_51: IME the ones you can get premade tend to suck :)
[02:59] <warfaren> velho: sorry. i was talking to zerty. forgot to write your names
[02:59] <velho> warfaren, hmm, so from what I understand, Unity CAN'T change the windows buttons to the right?
[02:59] <reisio> squirtle_51: I made my own, it turned out unsurprisingly exactly as I wanted it to
[02:59] <velho> warfaren, no problem mate :D
[03:00] <squirtle_51> reisio: *bows to the *nix master* I haven't gotten into scripting yet. Actually, can you help me out with an rsync script?
[03:00] <jmadero> hi all - keep getting this error Error splicing file: Stale file handle
[03:00] <jmadero> it keeps happening - 5 times in a row no
[03:00] <jmadero> w
[03:00] <zerty> Thanks a lot war I got it
[03:00] <warfaren> velho: perhaps it can work somehow with unity. i googled and found some info about it but it might be outdated and not work anymore
[03:00] <warfaren> zerty: nice :)
[03:01] <warfaren> zerty: it's the same settings i use myself. turning off acceleration is so good for games
[03:01] <warfaren> zerty: in steam games though, you may have to go to the games own settings and turn it off there aswell to make it really good
[03:01] <warfaren> zerty: mouse acceleration makes no sense in first person shooters really
[03:02] <zerty> Yeah I tried almost everything in CSGO and it still felt weird
[03:02] <warfaren> ah.
[03:02] <zerty> even after the fix Im at 0.824 sensitivty
[03:02] <warfaren> mad
[03:02] <velho> warfaren, I googled to. I asked here because I found no answer :\
[03:02] <zerty> The thing really holding me back is no dpi switch
[03:02] <warfaren> velho: http://askubuntu.com/questions/44187/how-do-i-move-the-unity-title-bar-buttons-to-the-right-side i found this, maybe you wanna try some of the suggestions
[03:03] <zerty> Steelseries lets you add custom DPI to the center mouse button so im assuming its just stuck at 5000 or something
[03:03] <zerty> the default for the mouse
[03:03] <warfaren> zerty: i think you could probably sort that out too
[03:04] <warfaren> zerty: such as running some script to change sensitivity (dunno if that's the same effect as you get purely from changing DPI) as you press the buttons
[03:04] <gogoshaasho> anyone tried 14.10 yet
[03:04] <zerty> Yeah I was going to ask if there is any way to manipulate the dpi
[03:04] <zerty> I dont mind switching dpi if there is a way i can permanently set my mouse to 1100 dpi I would be golden
[03:06] <warfaren> zerty: it depends on how it works. if it relies on a driver in your operating system sending instructions to your mouse, telling it to switch to your dpi as you click that mouse button, it might be complicated
[03:06] <warfaren> zerty: unless someone figured that driver out (i assume steelseries did not release an official linux driver for your mouse)
[03:06] <nmatrix9> anyone here have experience installing ubuntu from a NFS iso image?
[03:07] <gogoshaasho> you mean a backup or a downloaded image?
[03:07] <zerty> Yeah there is no linux support :(
[03:07] <warfaren> zerty: i'm no pro gamer, and i can't really tell the difference between low dpi and high dpi coupled with really low sensitivity settings
[03:07] <reisio> nmatrix9: as in a network boot?
[03:07] <zerty> oh its massive for me
[03:07] <gogoshaasho> oh...no
[03:07] <nmatrix9> yes
[03:07] <reisio> warfaren: almost nobody can
[03:07] <reisio> certainly not apple users :p
[03:07] <nmatrix9> reisio: yes
[03:07] <zerty> Ive used the same sensitivity for years
[03:07] <zerty> lol
[03:07] <warfaren> i see
[03:07] <zerty> so my muscle memory is pretty used to it - i like to think it helps
[03:08] <warfaren> sometimes, if you have a dual boot system, you can do your settings in windows and reboot into linux and hopefully your hardware wont reset and lose its settings
[03:08] <warfaren> but that will only last until you reboot
[03:08] <warfaren> if it works at all
[03:09] <zerty> Yeah im only on linux now as my old copy of windows is gone and too poor to get win8
[03:10] <ba-solo> hello everyone, i deleted my win7 boot while i use easyBCD, when i restart my computer i found that i cannot run win again
[03:10] <zerty> So i guess ill have to deal till I get win8 or buy a new mouse freaking steel series
[03:10] <warfaren> zerty: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1ew39a/mouse_sensitivity_and_linux_gaming/ i found this, didn't read all of it myself but maybe you want to take a look too
[03:10] <ba-solo> what should i do
[03:10] <warfaren> ba-solo: is it a multi boot system? i guess running windows startup repair followed by installing grub again should do the trick
[03:11] <ba-solo> and my computer has no cd-rom
[03:11] <warfaren> ba-solo: you could boot it from a usb device if your motherboard supports that (most machines made after 2004 do...)
[03:11] <reisio> ba-solo: the beginning of this will probably work: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
[03:11] <reisio> ba-solo: or you can use a Windows install image to fix it
[03:11] <reisio> more at #windows
[03:12] <ba-solo> warfaren and reisio , how can i repair win boot in ubuntu
[03:12] <zerty> thanks warfaren how would I get a bash script to execute at startup do I just paste that where i pasted the last command?
[03:12] <warfaren> zerty: also this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343927
[03:12] <reisio> ba-solo: just said
[03:13] <warfaren> zerty: did you try running the script on its own now? to see that it helps. before making it run at startup
[03:13] <gamax92> is this really the largest freenode channel
[03:14] <warfaren> zerty: if you want to run it at startup, put it into a text file and save it, make the file executable and in the execute field of startup applications type in /full/path/to/script
[03:15] <warfaren> ba-solo: when you start your machine now, do you first get to the grub menu (being able to start ubuntu but not windows) or do you get straight to an error unable to do anything?
[03:15] <ba-solo> ok ,thanks warferen and reisio, i will have a try
[03:16] <Hongo> hello some can help me ¿?
[03:16] <Hongo> someone*
[03:16] <Svetlana> if you ask
[03:16] <warfaren> How would we know before you even stated your question? :)
[03:16] <Hongo> i have issues with my internet :/
[03:16] <warfaren> okay.. go on
[03:17] <Hongo> my conection is terrible slow with the wifi
[03:17] <Hongo> but awesome with the ethernet
[03:17] <ba-solo> warfaren, when i start i first get to the grub ,and there is win boot , but when i run win it make no difference
[03:17] <Hongo> i do some research but nothing works
[03:17] <gamax92> i share Hongo's issue
[03:18] <warfaren> ba-solo: so you would need to run windows startup repair i assume. but that will overwrite grub so you'll have to install grub afterwards. unless you set it up from easybcd (which i don't really recommend)
[03:18] <warfaren> Hongo: did you try connecting to several different wifi access points?
[03:18] <bubbasaures> windows startup will not overwrite grub
[03:19] <Hongo> no, i only ve one close :/
[03:19] <ba-solo> warfaren , can i write a win boot on ubuntu?
[03:19] <gamax92> I know my wifi adapter is an realtek 8192se, and the same point works in windows with good speed and no packet loss
[03:20] <gamax92> but in linux it disconnects often, there is packet loss, and its slow
[03:20] <reisio> ba-solo: already told you
[03:20] <warfaren> ba-solo: maybe, but i think it would be easier if you booted the windows installer and ran startup repair
[03:20] <warfaren> Hongo: do you have other devices connected to the same wifi spot, and are they slow too?
[03:21] <Hongo> I ve 2 androids and a pc with windows but they work fine
[03:21] <warfaren> Hongo: at the same distance from the access point?
[03:22] <Hongo> no
[03:22] <warfaren> Hongo: if they were closer, they would have higher signal strength and work better. but you probably already thought of that
[03:22] <zerty> ahh warfaren my knowledgable friend I have no idea how to make a text document an executable :0
[03:23] <ba-solo> warfaren and reisio, i have a usb drive with win pe ,but it seems broken down .so i have no choice but write it again
[03:23] <Hongo> they are like 10mts, and the laptop is like 1 mt but the laptop is slow-one
[03:23] <reisio> ba-solo: hrmm?
[03:23] <warfaren> zerty: in the terminal, you would type chmod +x filename (filename being the name of the file you want to make executable). or you can rightclick it, go to properties, and check the executable checkbox under permissions
[03:24] <warfaren> ba-solo: do you have another system with a working windows install to prepare your stick? it might be able to be done under ubuntu too, though. i don't know
[03:25] <zerty> ah yeah that slowed it way down warfaren youre a saint how do you handle so many questions at once
[03:25] <warfaren> i don't know :D but i'm a fast typist
[03:25] <warfaren> around 100WPM. so fairly fast anyway i guess
[03:26] <ubuntuaddicted> im really struggling to figure out how to launch an openbox session on an x server running on DISPLAY=:1, i've tried to follow the arch wiki for setting up ~/.xinitrc and how to load a custom xorg.conf file but i can't figure it out. can some one please help me?  here's the command i'm trying xinit -- -config xorg.conf.d/xorg_single.conf :
[03:26] <ubun00b> hello all
[03:26] <ba-solo> reisio and warfaren , maybe what i can do is just reinstall win by unetbootin
[03:26] <warfaren> i'm just trying to help everyone tonight. even if i'm not very knowledgeable about the question per se.
[03:26] <warfaren> ba-solo: that sounds like it could be possible, yeah
[03:27] <ubun00b> windows to ubuntu convert here having display issues
[03:27] <Hongo> so... am i doom ?
[03:27] <Hongo> xD
[03:27] <warfaren> Hongo: nah we'll probably be able to work it out. lets see
[03:28] <warfaren> Hongo: how old is your laptop? can you tell me its name and model number?
[03:28] <reisio> ba-solo: since you're ignoring me, go ahead and don't give me the bulletpoints
[03:28] <RedPenguin> Jordan_U: thanks again for your help earlier, I swapped out the HD for a new one, and the entire PC is faster and working way more stable now :)
[03:28] <warfaren> ba-solo: didn't you try what reisio suggested?
[03:29] <reisio> he's too busy IRCIng
[03:29] <warfaren> :P
[03:29] <Hongo> like 5 - 6 years old, is a gateway NV59C, the wifi is broken(i disconected it) but i've a wifi adapter
[03:29] <ubun00b> can someone give me a shout when they are able to help, please?
[03:29] <warfaren> Hongo: aha. what wifi adapter is that?
[03:30] <warfaren> ubun00b: that's not how it works here. write your full question and wait for the answer
[03:30] <Hongo> Realtek 802.11n NIC
[03:30] <warfaren> any model number?
[03:30] <warfaren> look for a sticker on it
[03:30] <Hongo> ok w8 a lil
[03:30] <warfaren> ok
[03:31] <ubun00b> oh ok, my apologies. dell inspiron 1545 laptop running ubuntu 14.04 with external monitor. external isnt recognized, wrong res
[03:31] <ubun00b> @warfaren ty btw
[03:32] <SunStar> ubun00b,  yes, i have this same laptop and have the same problem
[03:32] <squirtle_51> Can someone help me out with an rsync script?
[03:32] <Hongo> Got it: Model No. TL-WN725N
[03:32] <ubun00b> SunStar, have you found a resolution to it?
[03:33] <reisio> squirtle_51: did you run it?
[03:33] <SunStar> sometimes the xorg-edgers ppa works, but thats hit an miss
[03:33] <warfaren> Hongo: ah. did you try this usb adaptor on another machine before? i have a similar one (but bigger) and it reaaally sucks
[03:33] <ubun00b> @SunStar..i have no idea what youre saying
[03:33] <warfaren> it performs an awful lot worse than the built in wifi of my laptop (built in doing about 60Mbit/s, the usb stick around 4Mbit/s)
[03:33] <ubun00b> im sorry
[03:34] <warfaren> ubun00b: that's a repository (a server where you can download packages)
[03:34] <Svetlana> ubun00b: SunStar says that the xorg-edgers PPA is not reliable.
[03:34] <SunStar> not realiable *BUT* the only solution that has worked
[03:35] <gamax92> what about oibaf
[03:35] <ba-solo> reisio, i'm really really sorry. i have go through the website. but i'm not used to terminal because i am green hand , i'm afraid to make error that lead to the only run ubuntu broken down too.
[03:35] <ubun00b> how do i fix?
[03:35] <Hongo> yeah, in the pc, and worked fine... and i know it sucks at least in the laptop, i make the laptop struggle, i cant put my usb headphones when i ve the adapter on
[03:35] <SunStar> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers
[03:35] <reisio> ba-solo: so ask the channel to help you
[03:35] <Hongo> it make*
[03:35] <reisio> ...what you were doing already
[03:35] <warfaren> Hongo: hm ok. on this other pc, was it on windows or linux mayeb?
[03:35] <Hongo> windows 7
[03:36] <ba-solo> reisio , thanks and really sorry for that
[03:36] <ba-solo> warfaren , thanks
[03:37] <warfaren> Hongo: perhaps the linux driver isn't as good as it could be. it would be interesting if you could try it under windows again and compare
[03:37] <reisio> :p
[03:37] <ubun00b> please forgive my ignorance, but i have no idea what im doing. i gave up on windows and turned to ubuntu. im not real familiar with the terminology, etc..
[03:37] <warfaren> ba-solo: you're welcome
[03:37] <squirtle_51> reisio: I ran this the other day to retrieve data from a PC that I had pushed data to before changing OSes. My question is as follows. How would I have to format it to keep both my normal PC and my other one synced? http://pastebin.com/c5CHY1Bq
[03:37] <warfaren> ubun00b: just ask about anything you don't understand, i'll explain it. we're here to help
[03:38] <Hongo> the strange thing is that it used to work fine here, later i changed to an ethernet cuz the problem with the usb headphones
[03:38] <SunStar> ubun00b,  yeah this is a matter of adding a ppa to your software sources. the ppa you want to add is xorg-edgers, then you will need to run the system update service. hold on a moment
[03:38] <warfaren> Hongo: it was fast and good under ubuntu?
[03:38] <Hongo> yeah
[03:39] <ubun00b> i am unable to set my external display to it's native res. system settings only allows me to select 2 res, neither correct. its listed as unknown
[03:39] <warfaren> Hongo: please test it again on your other pc? maybe the hardware broke down
[03:39] <Hongo> 8mb downloa is my top and was no problem, now i only reach 0.22mbs
[03:39] <ubun00b> tymc @warfaren @SunStar
[03:39] <warfaren> :)
[03:39] <Hongo> could it be the modem?
[03:40] <SunStar> ubun00b, open a terminal window and type "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers"
[03:40] <warfaren> Hongo: maybe, but if your other wifi devices dont have that problem , you shouldn't blame your modem
[03:40] <Hongo> cuz i had the ethernet but it start to give me problems
[03:40] <SunStar> ubun00b,  then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:40] <reisio> squirtle_51: for something long term you might use lsyncd
[03:41] <Hongo> can i router mess up this things?
[03:41] <reisio> squirtle_51: although I'd probably just use cron and rsync (using sshfs)
[03:41] <Hongo> can a router*
[03:41] <warfaren> Hongo: technically yeah. but you should notice it on your other devices aswell in that case
[03:41] <reisio> more at #rsync
[03:42] <squirtle_51> reisio: I was going to set it up as a cron script, actually. I'll go check out #rsync. Thanks!
[03:42] <Hongo> yeah but the other 3 devices are ok :/
[03:42] <gogoshaasho> does anyone have any experience mounting a LUKS encrypted LVM partition in 14.04 or 14.10? any..and i mean ANY help would be appreciated
[03:42] <reisio> squirtle_51: sshfs makes things much easier for the human brain, IMO
[03:43] <warfaren> Hongo: so your router is probably not to blame
[03:43] <ubun00b> @SunStar i have done this
[03:43] <srsr> hi I was just wondering, I just loaded ubuntu 14.04 and need java for firefox.. do i install version 8?
[03:43] <hansel> hi hongo
[03:43] <SunStar> ubun00b,  just know, i have given up on this laptop.   most of the time it's stuck @ 1024x768 since i removed it's broken LCD
[03:43] <reisio> squirtle_51: sshfs foo@bar: /mnt/bar; rsync -a baz/ /mnt/bar/
[03:43] <warfaren> srsr: you mean you want java so it can run java programs inside firefox?
[03:44] <reisio> squirtle_51: or more seriously, s/; / &&/
[03:44] <srsr> I need to run a upload program on the net for a dealership and it runs a java app to do it
[03:44] <ubun00b> @SunStar will this install needed drivers? i cant nail down the issue, not being familiar with ubuntu
[03:45] <reisio> sshfs … && rsync … || echo 'crap!'
[03:45] <SunStar> the commans i supplied are the only way to fix it i have found
[03:45] <Hongo> hi hansel
[03:45] <SunStar> commands*
[03:45] <warfaren> srsr: do you have to run that in firefox? or could you download the .jar and run it anyway?
[03:45] <Hongo> i removed the router
[03:46] <warfaren> srsr: if you need to enable it in browser, i found this for you: https://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
[03:46] <srsr> It is a web app, it needs to run out of a browser.. on my hackintosh it runs in either firefox or opera
[03:46] <Hongo> cuz it make the pc slow
[03:46] <gamax92> srsr: 7 should be fine
[03:46] <Hongo> both pc and laptop
[03:46] <squirtle_51> reisio: Time to run man sshfs.
[03:46] <ubun00b> is there any "top 10" things to do or know after switching from windows to ubuntu cold turkey?
[03:46] <warfaren> just installing java wont enable the browser component afaik
[03:46] <SunStar> also, check /var/logs/dmesg and /var/logs/system for edid errors. if the new screen doesnt supply "edid" or bad "edid"  ubuntu is forced to guess and almost always chooses 1024x768 knowing it's almost garenteed to work
[03:46] <reisio> squirtle_51: just like mount foo bar, only foo takes the usual user@ip: form of ssh/scp
[03:46] <gamax92> you need icedtea for the browser component
[03:47] <warfaren> you need icedtea i think.. or something else
[03:47] <Hongo> the leave the pc with the cable and the laptop with the wifi adapter
[03:47] <SunStar> flash and icedtea
[03:47] <reisio> ubun00b: just be vigilant for a bit if you feel out of place, it'll pass
[03:47] <xangua> ubun00b: omgubuntu and webupd8 blogs usually have several guides for "10 things to do after installing ubuntu XX.XX"
[03:47] <ubun00b> SunStar, how would i add the "edid"?
[03:48] <reisio> ubun00b: oh, and most importantly, utilize IRC :)
[03:48] <SunStar> thats somerthing the manufacturer was supposed to do
[03:48] <warfaren> ubun00b: first thing i learned was not to put sudo in front of every command when using the terminal :D
[03:48] <srsr> thanks.. i had to buy a windoz 8.1 laptop and i cant stand it.. i usually use elementary but thought i would try ubuntu... it is really good so far
[03:48] <ubun00b> well, google kept me in circles till it pointed me to xchat.
[03:48] <warfaren> ubun00b: it might help, but it's very bad security wise
[03:48] <ubun00b> warfaren, ty
[03:49] <warfaren> ubun00b: sudo should only be used when it is required
[03:49] <Hongo> well, thanks for the help folks, especially warfaren
[03:49] <warfaren> Hongo: you're welcome, hope you got some results
[03:49] <Hongo> thanks, cya later
[03:49] <ubun00b> thank you reisio , xangua , warfaren , SunStar
[03:49] <gamax92> any ubuntu derived or non ubuntu for atom netbooks?
[03:49] <reisio> :)
[03:50] <reisio> gamax92: no derivative is needed for atoms in particular
[03:50] <srsr> thanks.. ill try to fine tune it up on the weekend... so i will put on java 7 then.. and again thank you both for the info
[03:50] <reisio> gamax92: they're just another model of intel proc
[03:50] <ubun00b> SunStar, should i reboot?
[03:50] <gamax92> well i was hinting at the fact that its slow
[03:50] <xangua> gamax92: ubuntu, you may wanna try xubuntu or lubuntu for low resources machines
[03:50] <SunStar> yes
[03:50] <reisio> gamax92: you can avoid the "heavier" DEs like GNOME or KDE if you like
[03:50] <gamax92> like 1.6GHz cpu and 166MHz gpu slow
[03:50] <ubun00b> SunStar, and all, tyvm, bbl
[03:51] <warfaren> in my experience gnome2 is faster than most DE's claiming to be lightweight
[03:51]  * reisio still remembers his 797MHz celeron
[03:51] <reisio> 128MB RAM :)
[03:51] <warfaren> too bad it's not really developed anymore. i've been using mate but it seems buggy :/
[03:51] <warfaren> lovely old hardware
[03:51] <Svetlana> report bugs! you are the future
[03:51] <gamax92> warfaren: in my experience mate-panel randomly takes up crap loads of cpu time and ends up locking up my computer for a bit.
[03:51] <reisio> Xfce's always been a better alternative to GNOME 2, IMO
[03:51] <SunStar> i just pulled a server from the dumpster. has a CCTV capture card that supports 16 analog cameras but it's only 1.4GHz w/ 256 RAM. what to do with it?
[03:52] <gamax92> SunStar: what cpui
[03:52] <ObrienDave> xfce +1
[03:52] <SunStar> AMD XP
[03:52] <Svetlana> reisio: except it bugs out when (i) you don't use a shimmer theme and (ii) have both gtk2 and gtk3 apps installed
[03:52] <srsr> anyways, big day again tomorrow.. ty for the help... l8tr
[03:52] <reisio> SunStar: sell it for drugs?
[03:52] <reisio> Svetlana: nope
[03:52] <Svetlana> tell me the secret then
[03:52] <Svetlana> to me, gtk3 apps looked really ugly without shimmer themes
[03:53] <warfaren> i kind of liked xfce but i don't like how the application menu groups stuff.. really like the old gnome 2 way with just applications/places/system
[03:53] <srsr> lol.. win 8.1 i3 6gb ram = 1 joint
[03:53] <Svetlana> warfaren: you can customize all that
[03:53] <warfaren> maybe i should give it another chance
[03:53] <srsr> with win it felt like my old 486
[03:53] <warfaren> i'm just too accustomed to ubuntu 10.04
[03:53] <Svetlana> yes, 'not customizable' was not my complaint there warfaren, it was jolly good at that
[03:53] <reisio> Svetlana: that's a GTK+3/Ubuntu problem, nothing to do with Xfce
[03:54] <Svetlana> reisio: meaning it's ok on another distro ? or meaning it is gtk3's fault ?
[03:54] <reisio> it was GTK+'s bright idea to betray all its developers :p
[03:54] <reisio> kinda like GNOME 3
[03:54] <reisio> and KDE 4 :p
[03:54] <warfaren> ubuntu 10.04 is by far the best distro i ever used.. everything just works and feels so fluid and all
[03:54] <reisio> Svetlana: mmm, well it's probably simpler on some other distros :p
[03:54] <gamax92> i would have liked xfce iirc (not used it recently) the desktop icons cannot be grid', there is always a white outline behind the icon text, and the theme renders oddly
[03:54] <SunStar> +1 warfaren
[03:54] <reisio> gamax92: doesn't sound quite right to me
[03:55] <SunStar> i take it it didnt work ubun00b
[03:55] <reisio> gamax92: perhaps with xubuntu-desktop's defaults, but not by requirement
[03:55] <Svetlana> reisio: well iirc gtk2 isnt maintained and xfce is all gtk2, but i may be wrong
[03:55] <Svetlana> at least the themes (most of them)
[03:55] <gamax92> well im in mint atm, since they offered MATE and I was already used to gnome 2
[03:55] <ubun00b> SunStar, lol. afaik no...what can i check, log wise?
[03:56] <warfaren> same here. i kinda like it but a lot of things didn't age well
[03:56] <warfaren> like support for compiz
[03:56] <reisio> Svetlana: mmmm, it wouldn't surprise me if they are not developing it (in favor of 3, which they obviously made for a reason), but it's too prevalent to not be maintained
[03:56] <reisio> which is why you can still use it
[03:56] <gamax92> compiz?
[03:56] <reisio> unmaintained software does not remain in any distro repos
[03:56] <reisio> that would mean the distro maintainers were maintaining it, and that's work they almost never want
[03:56] <warfaren> yeah, compiz is the only way i've managed to get rid of screen tearing completely....
[03:56] <reisio> gamax92: whwat about it?
[03:56] <warfaren> i've tried so many tutorials but none seem to work
[03:56] <warfaren> other than compiz
[03:56] <SunStar> next thing to try is open the software updater from the app launcher (start) menu and click the drivers tab. check if there are any proprietary drivers to use but, we have the same laptop and the org-edgers ppa is all that has ever worked for me
[03:57] <gamax92> oh, tearing .
[03:57] <SunStar> @ ubun00b
[03:57] <sambagirl> if you have xfce as your desktop manager, how would you go about changing to gnome?
[03:57] <gamax92> i could care less about terring.
[03:57] <warfaren> you mean you COULDN'T care less?
[03:57] <warfaren> or do you actually care about it?
[03:57] <a_b1> guys, has anybody tired some file open detect in Linux?
[03:57] <reisio> sambagirl: install ubuntu-desktop and carefully uninstall xubuntu-desktop & co.
[03:57] <bubbasaures> sambagirl, Gnome what, the shell, fallback?
[03:57] <reisio> sambagirl: the latter part has particular commands I don't know :p
[03:58] <ubun00b> SunStar, frak
[03:58] <reisio> a_b1: file alteration monitor
[03:58] <sambagirl> well i think i should give a little background. i am running precise via crouton on a chromebook.
[03:58] <Svetlana> (all that said -- i hope free desktop finds some better world when someone writes a universal toolkit for editing configs so that each program doesn't have to invent its own place and dialog for editing prefs, and for displaying menus so that programs don't have to hardcode their layout)
[03:58] <reisio> sambagirl: Ubuntu is Ubuntu
[03:58] <sambagirl> i personally prefer ubuntu 10.10 or 10.04 that is what i would like to have my gnome looing like
[03:58] <warfaren> Svetlana: amen to that
[03:58] <sambagirl> you know the top and bottom panels
[03:59] <sambagirl> place application ssytem
[03:59] <gamax92> I am running os/2 warp 3 on a 486
[03:59] <warfaren> :)
[03:59] <sambagirl> i think i might be able to get that with gnome
[03:59] <sambagirl> os/2 :D
[03:59] <warfaren> xD
[04:00] <sambagirl> "groovy"
[04:00] <bubbasaures> sambagirl, 10.04 was gnome 2, it is not in the repos, the fallback is a psuedo version
[04:00] <sambagirl> oh ok.
[04:00] <sambagirl> i'll just live with what i have.
[04:00] <sambagirl> thanks
[04:00] <warfaren> wowowow
[04:00] <ubun00b> SunStar, dropping the scale for the menu and title bars works in a half cocked way
[04:01] <gamax92> i have a cd of ubuntu 8 :P
[04:01] <SunStar> yeah i just run xubuntu on that laptop and live with 1024x768 on a widescreen lcd
[04:01] <ubun00b> cant wait to get a diff one
[04:01] <sambagirl> i have hoary ubuntu cd :)
[04:02] <SunStar> i think the problem is the laptop
[04:02] <ubun00b> i agree
[04:02] <ubun00b> it's frakked
[04:02] <SunStar> i have tried screens that do supply edid and still resolution is an issue
[04:02] <Dylan> The scroll bar on my web browser is so light I can barely see it. How can I make it darker/more visible? Using 14.04.
[04:03] <ubun00b> later everone, thanks again. xbox time
[04:07] <raschy> So I've installed the latest nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 14.10, and I'm getting some weird graphical glitches in web browser were the page flashes white. Anyone know whats up with that?
[04:08] <SunStar> only time i've seen that was on a system with a very old nvidia with a very slow CPU and very little RAM
[04:08] <SunStar> what nvidia chip?
[04:09] <SunStar> also, #ubuntu+1 is for 14.10 support
[04:09] <Riku-san> I feel bad for everyone, I've never had problems with Ubuntu on my primary desktop...
[04:09] <Riku-san> only on my 5 year old laptop
[04:09] <raschy> I'm using a 750m
[04:09] <SunStar> nice
[04:09] <dorkusmaximus> hahahahahaha
[04:09] <Riku-san> Solution to everything: 14.04
[04:09] <dorkusmaximus> ubuntu is installing
[04:09] <SunStar> how is the performance with the xorg driver?
[04:09] <Riku-san> *ubuntu-server 14.04
[04:10] <raschy> Xorg driver is sub-par
[04:10] <ObrienDave> SunStar, #ubuntu+1 is for 15.04 support ;P
[04:10] <Riku-san> I use ubuntu-server for my desktops
[04:10] <raschy> I've gotten the 331 nvidia drivers to work i was just curious if people had the 340 drivers working
[04:10] <SunStar> ohhhh
[04:10] <SunStar> thats right. this is november  :)
[04:10] <Riku-san> because it gives more choice and it fits on an 800MB CD
[04:11] <Riku-san> #ubuntu-tardis is for 20.04 support
[04:11] <SunStar> i use ubuntu studio on all my desktops cuz it's awesome  :)
[04:11] <Riku-san> but...
[04:11] <Riku-san> unity
[04:11] <dorkusmaximus> 20.04 should have qbit processor support
[04:11] <Riku-san> I use ubuntu-server, then install GNOME 3
[04:11] <ubuntuaddicted> how do i store my xorg.conf if i have more than 1 because i run more than 1 x server?
[04:12] <Riku-san> wait the only problem with my desktop is my xorg config resets every boot
[04:12] <Riku-san> so I have to re-rotate and order my displays
[04:13] <Riku-san> saving xorg.conf in the nvidia settings does nothing
[04:13] <Riku-san> X11, meh, X18!
[04:13] <Riku-san> nobody needs stability
[04:13] <gamax92> XFree86
[04:14] <portablejim> How would I set up /etc/skel to run a script on the ubuntu user on the live cd on startup using upstart?
[04:15] <Riku-san> lol we've been on X11 since the 80s
[04:16] <SunStar> longer than that
[04:16] <anjo-aladiah> i cant make my lubuntu 14.10 hibernate nether on console nether on the button menu
[04:16] <anjo-aladiah> iam with dual boot windows lubuntu . i tryed this with out sucess http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/10/enable-hibernate-option-in-ubuntu-14-10-unity/
[04:18] <anjo-aladiah> When i try sudo pm-hibernate, then the screen switch off, but the computer dont terminate at all and stay on longer and longer . . ! I have to push the power button to switch off it.
[04:21] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know how to manage multiple xorg.conf files? i need 2 different ones for launching 2 X servers
[04:26] <ObrienDave> anjo-aladiah, you need swap to make hibernate work
[04:27] <anjo-aladiah> ObrienDAve installation already creat that swap automaticle doens it ?
[04:27] <ObrienDave> not necessarily
[04:29] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: why do you need that
[04:29] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, it's a long story but i need it. :)
[04:30] <reisio> use these two lines to tell the story:
[04:32] <clarinet> does anyone know why /dev/dsp was not found ?
[04:32] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, because i run a dual monitor setup where my gaming monitor is located at +1920,0 and when I have screen tearing on this monitor because X can only sync to 1 display which is normally the display located at 0,0. therefore I want to launch a second X server at tty8 which I will be doing my gaming on.
[04:33] <ubuntuaddicted> clarinet, because alsa isn't mapping anything there. why do you think you should have /dev/dsp?
[04:33] <reisio> that was foru lines :p
[04:33] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: you shouldn't get screen tearing
[04:34] <reisio> anyways, I think the way it is is that you have one xorg.conf with two monitor/screen configs
[04:34] <reisio> but I doubt you need that
[04:34] <clarinet> I want to try gmfsk, and the error appear
[04:35] <clarinet> maybe the software is too old
[04:40] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, on multi-monitor setups it's no uncommon. like i said, X can only sync to 1 monitors refresh rate
[04:41] <reisio> what graphics device?
[04:45] <agent_white> good evenin
[04:46] <warfaren> evenin, how may we serve you?
[04:47] <nam_> ;
[05:00] <stlly> hi
[05:00] <reisio> ohai
[05:00] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, GTX 760, using 346.16 or 343.22
[05:01] <reisio> sounds like a job for nvidia-settings, then
[05:01] <ubuntuaddicted> so if anyone is familiar with how to manage multiple xorg.conf files i would appreciate some assistancew
[05:01] <reisio> but nvidia's drivers also come with a thick tome of docs
[05:01] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, not sure what you don't understand, i've already told you several times it's a limitation of X server. it only sync's to the refresh rate of 1 monitor
[05:02] <reisio> I have my doubts
[05:02] <reisio> but even if that were so
[05:02] <reisio> nvidia-settings can help you configure multiple X servers
[05:02] <reisio> so...
[05:03] <ubuntuaddicted> it can? where?
[05:03] <reisio> the part about multiple monitors
[05:03] <g_un1t> Hi all, I'm on Trusty and I want to set up a cronjob for fully automatic updates, something along the lines of "sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade; sudo apt-get autoremove". Now would there be any gotchas / best practices I should be aware of? Something like config file or repo changes etc?
[05:04] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, that's for configuring multiple monitors NOT multiple X servers
[05:04] <reisio> g_un1t: yeah, too many to enumerate
[05:04] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: both, actually
[05:04] <g_un1t> reisio, eg?
[05:05] <therue> gonna try installing ubuntu for the third time
[05:05] <therue> failed twice
[05:05] <therue> :\
[05:05] <reisio> therue: why'd you fail?
[05:05] <therue> install just never ends
[05:05] <therue> for 2.5 hours
[05:05] <reisio> g_un1t: try it and see
[05:05] <reisio> therue: bummers
[05:05] <therue> i checked its command line during install
[05:05] <reisio> therue: try the 'minimalcd' image
[05:05] <therue> it's not even doing anything
[05:05] <Ben64> therue: you may want to verify the md5sum of the iso
[05:06] <therue> how do i verify it?
[05:06] <g_un1t> reisio, Well I've been running it manually and I haven't run into any hiccups so far..
[05:06] <therue> i downloaded the iso again and made a usb boot again
[05:06] <Ben64> !md5sum | therue
[05:06] <reisio> g_un1t: gj
[05:06] <therue> when you install... do you select the thing about updating the third party software
[05:06] <therue> and the fluendo mp3 plugin thingy
[05:06] <therue> you know.. the two check boxes
[05:06] <g_un1t> gj?
[05:07] <sudharsan> Hi, I use xubuntu 14.10.  While I have browser and media player open, the screen freezes and then turns to red or green dots and streaks all over the screen in rows. I had a broken harddisk and I had it replaced with a new 500GB harddisk. But the problem continues. Please hlep, thanks.
[05:08] <reisio> sudharsan: what makes you think your hard disk was broken?
[05:08] <beans> sure is cold out
[05:08] <beans> spare any change
[05:08] <beans> http://www.gofundme.com/gsybo4
[05:08] <Ben64> beans: no, don't use this channel to advertise
[05:08] <reisio> heh
[05:09] <sudharsan> reisio, I lost all data and partitions in old 80 gb harddisk, it was 8 years old, and when I booted the computer with liveUSB of ubuntu, whole hdisk was just empty unpartitioned space.
[05:09] <reisio> sudharsan: what graphics device? What driver?
[05:10] <sudharsan> reisio, I have no graphics card. Just the on-board one that came with Intel Core 2 duo. "additional drivers" from system settings, did not show up any driver to install.
[05:10] <therue> ok did a check. checksums are the same
[05:11] <mazda01> ny tty's have stopped working but i can ssh into the machine. i have an x server running on tty8 and when i issue ps aux | grep X i see the 2 x servers running yet hitting ctrl-alt-f1 thru f7 does nothing.  is my only recourse to reboot?
[05:11] <therue> when i download... should i uncheck the install updates and fluendo mp3 plugin options?
[05:12] <mazda01> therue, will you play mp3 files? if so then yes
[05:12] <therue> but aren't there better mp3 player?
[05:12] <mazda01> therue, did you test the hardware to see if you have an internet connection?
[05:13] <therue> i did have internet connection
[05:13] <mazda01> therue, no, that option is basically asking if you want to install the proper mp3 codec to be able to play and listen to mp3's.
[05:13] <therue> but should i still uncheck the install update while install option?
[05:13] <therue> and just update everything once i'm in the sytem and got ubuntu installed?
[05:13] <Ben64> therue: you could
[05:14] <mazda01> therue, basically ubuntu cant include mp3 playback support by default because of licensing so they added that little check mark during the install
[05:14] <Stalker_I> kjh
[05:14] <mazda01> therue, it's totally up to you, if you're going to do updates once you boot into the system the first time than why not just do them during the install
[05:14] <therue> and the install upate check box... aht's essentially hte same as using the update manager once you're in linux right?
[05:14] <therue> because it failed on me twice
[05:14] <sudharsan> reisio, also, this mostly happens in non-admin account, but when I use admin account, it does not seem to happen.
[05:14] <mazda01> therue, pretty much yes
[05:14] <reisio> sudharsan: maybe you should drop $20-30 on a dedicated gpu
[05:15] <therue> and i am just wondreing if by not updating during install might make a difference
[05:15] <therue> the past 2 times
[05:15] <therue> my install just dont run much at all
[05:15] <therue> i had to stop after 2-3 hours
[05:15] <Ben64> therue: ok then try it!
[05:15] <therue> i checked the command line at the bottom
[05:15] <therue> saw a lot of autopwn lock failed
[05:15] <mazda01> therue, you must have horribly slow internet. :)
[05:15] <therue> or something else
[05:15] <therue> a lot of it is the something something audio
[05:16] <mazda01> therue, without knowing exactly what the error message is/was it's near impossible to tell you one way or another
[05:16] <therue> no it's really fast actually
[05:16] <g_un1t> sudharsan, Depending on the exact model, the graphics chip may be in the CPU itself or the motherboard. But yeah as reisio said your best bet is to get a dedicated graphics card. Any cheap card would be miles ahead of the Intel onboard. If you're looking for recommendations, I would recommend ATi (AMD) due to their excellent open-source drivers. :)
[05:16] <mazda01> therue, are you installing on a new hard drive?
[05:16] <therue> ssd drive
[05:16] <therue> with a fresh windows install
[05:17] <therue> partion
[05:17] <sudharsan> reisio, okay I will look up the options, but what I don't understand is that it mostly happens in non-admin user account. :/
[05:17] <therue> and a free partition freed up to install linux
[05:17] <therue> for dual boot
[05:17] <mazda01> sudharsan, if you want to do any serious gaming i recommend an nvidia
[05:17] <reisio> the intel drivers are very good, so the first thing weird artefacts makes me think is that your onboard is unwell
[05:17] <reisio> sudharsan: well, it could be the video ram
[05:17] <reisio> you should really think about it like this...:
[05:17] <mazda01> sudharsan, are you using the default i915 driver or did you enable xorg-edgers or oibaf ppa yet?
[05:18] <therue> be back. trying for the third time
[05:18] <mazda01> therue, is your windows install win7 or newer? did you do a UEFI install?
[05:18] <sudharsan> g_un1t  Ok, I will look up on that. mazda01 I don't have any default drivers listed in "additional drivers" and I have not installed any ppa. should I?
[05:19] <reisio> sudharsan: a dedicated gpu is $20; your time is worth ??$usd/hour
[05:19] <reisio> ...how long have you spent on this?
[05:19] <mazda01> sudharsan, what does sudo lshw -C display return for the driver or module in use?
[05:19] <reisio> that's what you need to consider
[05:21] <sudharsan> mazda01, I had this output for that command : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9139913/
[05:21] <mazda01> for some reason i have 2 cairo-dock process's running when i boot up my machine but ther'es only 1 within the session and startup setting.
[05:22] <sudharsan> reisio, this is a very old PC, and I don't wish to spend if I can fix this.
[05:22] <coax> Hey, anyone here use IRSSI?
[05:22] <mazda01> sudharsan, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:23] <sudharsan> Xubuntu 14.04 LTS Trusty
[05:23] <sudharsan> mazda01, Xubuntu 14.04 LTS trusty
[05:24] <reisio> sudharsan: you're looking at it wrong
[05:24] <reisio> you could theoretically fix it... by spending $20
[05:24] <mazda01> sudharsan, if i were you i would give the xorg-edgers ppa a try.
[05:25] <reisio> and you may as well do that if you're on the verge of having spent $20's worth of time on it
[05:25] <mazda01> sudharsan, what cpu is it?
[05:25] <g_un1t> sudharsan, You can go for a second hand card if you want to .. eBay has ATI cards for literally $1. Ask around, someone might even give you one for free..
[05:27] <arun_> does anyone here know how to setup BRU server?
[05:27] <reisio> arun_: probably someone
[05:27] <sudharsan> reisio, g_un1t yes, I get your point, I will get a hard, atleast on second hand. mazda01 I have a intel core 2 duo 3 Ghz  and I think 82945G/GZ is the version number.
[05:28] <coax> BRU?
[05:28] <arun_> coax: yeah
[05:28] <reisio> coax: yeah, BRU
[05:29] <reisio> arun_: I think what he meant was "could you please be more vague, 'cause that is the best" :D
[05:29] <g_un1t> reisio, back to our original discussion, any really, really good reason why I *shoudn't* be doing an auto-update? (I'm running a fully open-source stack, FYI).
[05:29] <mazda01> sudharsan, i didn't realize core 2 duo's had igpu's
[05:29] <reisio> g_un1t: not if you've had no trouble doing it, nope
[05:29] <arun_> reisio: I really don't know what that is .. bru server
[05:30] <reisio> mazda01: he's probably just talking about his mobo with everything on it in general
[05:30] <reisio> arun_: well, knowing what something is will probably help you set it up
[05:30] <reisio> protip
[05:30] <mazda01> g_un1t, depends what repositories you enabled but most times auto-updating won';t break your system
[05:30] <g_un1t> reisio, Cheers
[05:30] <sudharsan> mazda01, yes it has "Integrated" Graphics
[05:31] <arun_> reisio: yeah, i really don't know so... asking u guys up
[05:31] <g_un1t> mazda01, Good point, but yep I'm only using stock repos
[05:31] <reisio> arun_: why would we know what some vague initialism you mentioned is?
[05:31] <reisio> arun_: do you know what Z1NB is?
[05:31] <reisio> 'cause I don't
[05:31] <reisio> help a brother out
[05:31] <mazda01> reisio, there's no graphics cards in motherboards. :)
[05:32] <arun_> reisio: what is vague ?
[05:32] <arun_> reisio: nope
[05:32] <reisio> mazda01: you're no doubt making a distinction between graphics hardware on its own daughterboard, and graphics hardware built into a mobo
[05:32] <reisio> mazda01: a nice, pointless distinction :)
[05:32] <reisio> arun_: :)
[05:33] <mazda01> reisio, either your motherboard "supports" onboard graphics or it doesn't. if it does, then the igpu is what's powering those display connectors
[05:33] <reisio> mazda01: you seem to have me confused with #aspies
[05:33] <reisio> try there
[05:34] <mazda01> reisio, there's no such thing as graphics hardware built into a mobo. not on consumer motherboards anyway
[05:34] <reisio> mazda01: keep going, I'm getting all this down
[05:34] <reisio> so future generations can read it
[05:35] <therue> i'm i'm installing now
[05:35] <therue> but not looking so good again
[05:35] <nemith> So i am trying to open a new bug about my touchpad not working.  I followed the instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection to gather the correct information but i can't find how to file the bug itself.  Running 'ubuntu-bug xserver-xord-input-synaptics' works and gathers data but I can't use the keyboard to hit Send and the damn mouse click doesn't work (thus the bug).  It also
[05:35] <nemith> doesn't attach the log files i gathered.
[05:35] <therue> le tme coopy and paste commandline for you guys?
[05:35] <therue> ready?
[05:35] <nemith> is there just a web form i can fillout?
[05:35] <reisio> therue: gogo
[05:36] <reisio> nemith: launchpad.net
[05:36] <reisio> `bugs
[05:36] <anjo-aladiah> I found the reason my lubuntu 14.10 dont hibernat. I have part of my disk encrypted.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnableHibernateWithEncryptedSwap#Explanation
[05:37] <therue> how do i copy and paste the command line
[05:37] <therue> when i do copy it just shows ^C
[05:37] <nemith> i clicked the "Report a bug" link from there and it took me back to the damn wiki :)
[05:37] <therue> in the command line
[05:37] <reisio> therue: CTRL+SHIFT+c
[05:37] <reisio> CTRL+c goes way back, for cancel
[05:37] <anjo-aladiah> Why when i do Sudo swapon --summary  , on the oconsole nothing happens ?
[05:37] <reisio> although you can configure it to do both cancel and copy for a lot of terms
[05:37] <flaiks> elllo
[05:38] <sudharsan> ubuntuaddicted, reisio g_un1t Thank you for your help :)
[05:38] <reisio> anjo-aladiah: got any swap?
[05:38] <reisio> flaiks: 'lo
[05:38] <flaiks> so, im having some issues getting my mouse back andd forward buttons to work
[05:38] <flaiks> xev doesnt even detect the click
[05:38] <anjo-aladiah> Reisio shouldnt lubuntu create automaticly a swap on instalation ?
[05:38] <ubuntuaddicted> sudharsan, no problem. 1 thing to note about using the xorg-edgers ppa, you'll have to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to update mesa and what not
[05:39] <therue> ctrl shift C not working
[05:39] <flaiks> anyone in here by chance using a logitech g502 proteus core ?
[05:39] <anjo-aladiah> reisio: how can i check that
[05:39] <anjo-aladiah> ?
[05:40] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, install doesn't auto create swap to my knowledge
[05:40] <therue> you know how during install, if you click on the bottom, it shows the command line kind of?
[05:40] <ubuntuaddicted> therue, yes
[05:40] <therue> i tried copy from that.. it wont copy with ctrl shift c :(
[05:40] <therue> is there a way to get a copy of the log from that log?
[05:40] <ubuntuaddicted> therue, it's ctrl-c
[05:40] <reisio> anjo-aladiah: grep -i swap /etc/fstab might give yous ome indication
[05:40] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted : how can i check it out ?
[05:40] <reisio> you_some*
[05:41] <therue> ctrl C doesn't work either
[05:41] <ubuntuaddicted> therue, i'm sure there's a log, check /var/log/
[05:41] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted: sudo  grep -i swap /etc/fstab   , on console ?
[05:42] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, swapon -s
[05:42] <therue> weird all of a sudden my ubuntu's toolbar on the left is gone
[05:42] <therue> :\
[05:42] <flaiks> also
[05:42] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, that will show you if you have swap currently
[05:42] <flaiks> is there a helvetica package in the repo? 99% of websites look like crap
[05:42] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9140332/
[05:43] <therue> wtf :\
[05:43] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted: when i do swapon -s , nothing happens !
[05:43] <ubuntuaddicted> therue, don't panic
[05:44] <therue> how do i access /var/log then :(
[05:44] <therue> i cna't get to terminal
[05:44] <therue> 'cuz the toolbar is gone
[05:44] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, it looks like you have a swap designated.
[05:44] <ubuntuaddicted> therue, ctrl-t
[05:44] <therue> so can't click on program and click on terminal
[05:44] <ubuntuaddicted> therue, calm down. :)
[05:44] <therue> ctrl t not working
[05:44] <therue> my ubuntu is very unresponsive right now
[05:45] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted: can you help me handle this with console commands ?
[05:45] <ubuntuaddicted> therue, ctrl-alt-f4 then type in gnome-terminal
[05:45] <ubuntuaddicted> therue, i meant ctrl-alt-t before sorry
[05:45] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, i can try
[05:46] <anjo-aladiah> please
[05:46] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, are you using encryption ?
[05:46] <anjo-aladiah> i was trying to check that with  swapon --summary
[05:46] <anjo-aladiah> but nothing happens with it
[05:46] <anjo-aladiah> it should show me somthing like this doesnit :  Filename                        Type            Size    Used    Priority
[05:46] <anjo-aladiah>  /dev/mapper/cryptswap1          partition       1998844 0       -1
[05:47] <squirtle_51> I just came from #rsync, and the guy I was talking with ran Gentoo, which uses a different cron process. Will this work to keep my main laptop and a networked laptop synced? http://pastebin.com/zFLaCdHK
[05:47] <anjo-aladiah> in this instructions  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnableHibernateWithEncryptedSwap#Explanation , say If you do not see cryptswap1, the partition is either unencrypted or is not encrypted to Ubuntu's standard.
[05:47] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, read the post in here: it should help http://askubuntu.com/questions/462739/14-04-with-fde-and-swap-is-missing
[05:47] <anjo-aladiah> ok
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:48] <ubuntuaddicted> good evening
[05:49] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted: when i installed i choose encryptation for documents folders.
[05:49] <flaiks> alright
[05:49] <flaiks> unity crashed on me lol
[05:49] <anjo-aladiah> Do you think the oculd help me if i have encruptation ?
[05:50] <flaiks> anyone here have any experience with configuring the extra buttons ona logitech gaming mouse ?
[05:51] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, the link i gave you has the solution in it. it has soemthing to do with crypttab having an inccorect blckid
[05:51] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted: if you say i have a designated swap it means all i need is to enable it ?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: there is a package gpointing-device-settings to config other buttons on mouse, not sure it will work for yours
[05:53] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, okay ill try that thhanks
[05:53] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, do you really need swap? do you use standby or sleep or hibernate?
[05:53] <anjo-aladiah> hibernate , the problem is i want hibernate and i cant
[05:53] <flaiks> well
[05:54] <flaiks> that doesnt really let me map the back and forward button
[05:54] <anjo-aladiah> And here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnableHibernateWithEncryptedSwap#Explanation    say the who have encryptation cant hibernate but they give a solution. On another hand i found now that i dont have Swap working doesnit ?
[05:56] <tomhardy> for desktop programming environment should i go for 14.04 or 14.10
[05:56] <flaiks> yeah unfortunatly that program doesnt let me map the buttons
[05:57] <ubuntuaddicted> tomhardy, it's completely user preference. personally i'd go with 14.04
[05:57] <tomhardy> ok sounds good
[05:57] <flaiks> im loving 14.10
[05:57] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, currently your swap doesn't work. i linked you to the soltuion
[05:57] <tomhardy> i'll be installing it on 14 machines... if that makesa difference
[05:58] <flaiks> lol
[05:58] <flaiks> damn
[05:58] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted; in your link solution say that solution is only for uncrypted hd, mine is encrypted !
[05:59] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted: somewhere point 2 say: "....Note! I disable the line /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0 but I assume my swap should not be encrypted......"
[05:59] <tomhardy> oh yeah.. is complete disk encryption hard to setup in 14.04? if not is there a guide somewhere
[05:59] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/462739/14-04-with-fde-and-swap-is-missing  it's specificalyl showing how to fix a messed up swap for an encrypted system.
[06:00] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, read further down
[06:00] <anjo-aladiah> ok
[06:00] <ubuntuaddicted> tomhardy, i've never messed with encryption. if someone has physical access to my computer they can have my data. lol
[06:01] <tomhardy> odd approach to security
[06:01] <tomhardy> much better if they have to get your password + your token + hdd
[06:01] <tomhardy> so what do you do if you lose your laptop then.. just let them have all your data
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/152297/how-to-configure-extra-buttons-in-logitech-mouse
[06:02] <squirtle_51> Can I have some help with an rsync script in cron.daily?
[06:02] <flaiks> so heres the thing
[06:03] <flaiks> the buttons register as keyboard keystrokes in xinput test
[06:03] <flaiks> it registers as alt+left
[06:03] <flaiks> BUT it doesnt actually execute that action
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> tomhardy: they recently break encryption on truecrypt so...the safest way would be hide your data on usb and burry somewhere
[06:03] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted: they say"...recommendation I have for you is to go without a swap partition if you have at least 4 gb of ram .." , then. i have 4GB Ram, i dont need a swap to be able to hibernate the ?
[06:03] <ubuntuaddicted> tomhardy, im not talking about a laptop.
[06:04] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, im not sure, i've always made a swap.
[06:04] <cynicallemon> https://s.yimg.com/nt/i/tb/ydf/v2/ff-logo-top-right.png
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: did your mouse work on 14.04?
[06:05] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, didnt run 14.04
[06:05] <flaiks> i just switched from osx to ubuntu today
[06:05] <flaiks> dual boot windows for games ofc.
[06:05] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted: how can i know my swap is not encrypted ?
[06:06] <anjo-aladiah> because they say : " ...If someone know how to do the same with an encrypted swap, I will appreciate :).  "
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: you installed ubuntu with internet enabled/updates?
[06:06] <flaiks> in xev it registers as a Key event, not a button event when i push the button
[06:06] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, yes
[06:07] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, read the solution that has 5 up votes.
[06:07] <anjo-aladiah> ok
[06:07] <flaiks> when i do xinput test on my mouse I get this when i press the back button -  http://pastebin.com/j8EjnpPG
[06:07] <flaiks> those are the keymaps for alt, and left
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> !info xbindkeys-config | flaiks maybe this can help bind?
[06:08] <flaiks> its auto registering as what I have configured it to using the logitech software but X isnt recognizing it as keyboard input
[06:08] <flaiks> ive tried that, the problem is its not recognizing it as a button, but rather keyboard input
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[06:08] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, you want a more detailed solution, here ya go: http://askubuntu.com/questions/462775/swap-not-working-on-clean-14-04-install-using-encrypted-home?rq=1
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: well im out of ideas then mate, sorry
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: you checked for additional drivers also?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: maybe check on lusb to see your device
[06:09] <tomhardy> lotuspsychje: who broke the encryption on truecrypt? i didn't read that anywhere
[06:09] <flaiks> my mouse has two seperate xinput id's, one for the mouse functions and one for the extra button, if I could just register the button ones to go into X as a keyboard
[06:09] <flaiks> if that makes sense
[06:10] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, i see it
[06:10] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, ill show you my xinput
[06:10] <flaiks> lotuspsychje,
[06:10] <tomhardy> ubuntuaddicted: desktop is not that much different from a laptop.. it's not hard for desktops to get stolen from the workplace.. in one situation their only option is to wipe the harddrive.. the other option they get at all your documents / ssh keys etc
[06:10] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/xg1Syz07
[06:11] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, see in there how the mouse is listed twice? the buttons only register when doing xinput test on 12, and mouse movement only on 11
[06:11] <ubuntuaddicted> tomhardy, im talking about a normal home user.
[06:12] <ubuntuaddicted> tomhardy, i personally don't use encryption, am i saying that's the correct way to go? no, i'm not saying that at all.
[06:12] <tomhardy> ubuntuaddicted: what about your homemade porn collection :)
[06:12] <tomhardy> haha
[06:12] <forehanded> Holy fuck!!!! I found an irc channel where people are actually talking! It's a miracle!
[06:13] <ubuntuaddicted> is anyone familiar with how to override X server and tell it what conf file i want it to read?
[06:13] <tomhardy> so back to encryption.. is there a straightforward of setting it up?   also if you get minor disk corruption is it possible to recover individual files if you have keys?
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | tomhardy
[06:14] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted: why this happening ?  sudo passwd root
[06:14] <tomhardy> hmm.. i don't like encrypted directories
[06:14] <tomhardy> i'd like entire disk encryption
[06:15] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, that's NOT the solution i told you to use.
[06:15] <anjo-aladiah> why this happening : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9140882/
[06:15] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, i said use the solution that has 5 up votes here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/462739/14-04-with-fde-and-swap-is-missing
[06:16] <anjo-aladiah> I have no experience to that that
[06:16] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, sorry, i can't help you.
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdr4ENZqU38
[06:17] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, if this works, you're my hero
[06:17] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted: he says " .. So, I issued a sudo mkswap /dev/mapper/mint--vg-swap_1 " what this mean ? i should type this command on console ?
[06:17] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, worst youtube video music ever though
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: not sure lol, im just searching other ways
[06:18] <anjo-aladiah> ... and it should give an UUID that i should copy to somewhere , thats it ubuntuaddicted ?
[06:19] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, what does sudo fdisk -l return?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> tomhardy: http://www.johndscomputers.com/2014/security/breaking-news-truecrypt-team-calls-it-quits-says-using-truecrypt-is-not-secure/
[06:20] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted:  return this :  anjo-aladiah@Aladiah2014:~$ sudo fdisk -l return   fdisk: não foi possível abrir return: Ficheiro ou directoria inexistente
[06:20] <donnie> Hello , I 'm am new to this chat, i just install 14.10 and i am have problems with it freezing
[06:20] <donnie> any suggestion
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> !details | donnie
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> donnie: when does it freeze?
[06:22] <donnie> it frozen  when it tried to get on xchat, and after i installed chrome so i can look at netflix
[06:22] <tomhardy> lotuspsychje: nah, that was them basically saying they don't support it
[06:22] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, you must be brand new to linux. may i ask why you choose to use an encrypted system? do you really need it encrypted? i cna't really help you if you don't provide me the info i asked for. i asked for what is returned in a terminal if you type in "sudo fdisk -l"  and hit the enter key, copy and paste the output at ubuntu.pastebin.com and paste the link here
[06:23] <tomhardy> anyway tc is only one encryption mechansim
[06:23] <Svetlana> donnie: does it freeze each time you open netflix?
[06:23] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9140938/
[06:23] <donnie> so far
[06:24] <anjo-aladiah> When i installed lubuntu 14.10 on installation i choose encrypt only the Documents folder
[06:24] <ubuntuaddicted> anjo-aladiah, you aren't doing what i asked so i'm sorry but i can't help you
[06:26] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, didnt work :/
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> tomhardy: im just saying there are many ways to get data back from your hd, even if its encrypted so im hiding usb stick in yard when fbi knocks on my door
[06:26] <flaiks> if I could register that mouse device as a keyboard
[06:26] <flaiks> im sure it would work, just not sure how to do thatr
[06:26] <tomhardy> lotuspsychje: if you use tpm+encryption then there's not
[06:27] <tomhardy> the infinion tpm chips, they could extract the key using a machine that cost 300k .. but the new ones you can't... and lets face it .. unless you were osama bin khalif they wouldn't bother
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | tomhardy check sudo photrec with this tool
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> photorec
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> you be amazed what it can bring back
[06:28] <tomhardy> nothing, if the disk is encrypted
[06:29] <tomhardy> that's recovering unencrypted files
[06:29] <ubuntuaddicted> lol
[06:32] <flaiks> noice
[06:32] <flaiks> Got it working, I had to boot into windows and use the logitech software to assign the button as a mouse button instead of a key stroke
[06:32] <flaiks> lopl
[06:32] <flaiks> **lol
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: but does it work on ubuntu now?
[06:33] <flaiks> yes
[06:33] <flaiks> didnt have to configure anything either
[06:33] <flaiks> it auto works for back/forward
[06:33] <flaiks> now I dont have to click the back button in chrome like some savage lotuspsychje
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> thats odd
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> !yay | flaiks
[06:33] <GogoShaasho> hello everyone
[06:33] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, yeah i think it was just  the logitech software, it had the buttons registering as keystrokes instead of conventional mouse buttons
[06:34] <flaiks> now ubuntu is complete! lol
[06:34] <flaiks> now i just need to get helvetica
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> GogoShaasho: welcome
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: that a game?
[06:34] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, lol a font
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: maybe its inside ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[06:35] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, maybe, its an apple copyright font
[06:35] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted:  sorry , http://paste.ubuntu.com/9141182/
[06:36] <GogoShaasho> does anyone have any experience mounting a luks encrypted LVM partitioned HD?
[06:36] <flaiks> god
[06:36] <flaiks> the linux skype client is horrible.
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: why's that
[06:36] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, slow, crashes, looks like crap
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: many users have it run smoothly
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: remember your on 14.10, so things can still be experimental
[06:37] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted: looks like i have 3,5GB Swap partition in sda7
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: if you want stable, go for trusty
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | GogoShaasho
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> tomhardy: im already reading tpm 2.0 can be backdoored
[06:39] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, hmm well i realllly dont feel like re-installing my entire system now
[06:39] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, spent almost all day tweaking it and setting it up
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: well you have 9 months to experiment :p
[06:40] <tomhardy> lotuspsychje: your statements about both truecrypt and recovering files from partitions don't give me confidence in your advise regarding security
[06:40] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, lol does 14.10 then get moved into 15.04 as an LTS release ?
[06:40] <anjo-aladiah> ubuntuaddicted: when i do the command he say on 5 stars post, it say directory inexistent  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9141241/
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> tomhardy: security is a thin line..
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> !14.10 | flaiks
[06:41] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, im assuming rolling it back to 14.04 would be a huge PITA
[06:42] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows if there is a way to have multiple pidgin sessions at the same time? I have two gmail accounts that i would like to have notifications for.
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: there are many ways to make your life easy mate, my 14.04 install only need 20min
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: you can use aptoncd or apt-get download package to backup your fav packages fast
[06:42] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, right, im sure mine would be as well considering im running on an SSD but linux, BUT, all these settings i spent forever tweaking
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: wich ssd you have?
[06:43] <flaiks> 256 Adata 900x, and a 512 of the same model for windows
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> nice
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: check the ##linux-ssd guys
[06:43] <YoJimmy> I took out a hard drive, and now my system will only boot to emergency mode. Everything was working 100% when I shut it down and took out the drive. In fact, I had just finished setting up a samba server, with selinux enabled, seemingly like a boss. And then, like a manager, I pulled out a hard drive and killed the system.
[06:44] <flaiks> i was running osx but i am enjoying ubuntu much more =D
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: im on 14.04 64bit on samsung evo 840, runs like rocket
[06:44] <flaiks> runs WAY faster
[06:44] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, yeh the evo 840's are nice
[06:46] <kokut> is there a way to have multiple pidgin sessions at the same time?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | flaiks try this to speed things up :p
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> kokut: maybe start from terminal?
[06:47] <kokut> lotuspsychje: Exiting because another libpurple client is already running.
[06:49] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, would there be any major advantage to switching down to 14.04 ?
[06:49] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, ie. is it worth the time ?
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: that depends on what you want yourself, for me its worth yes
[06:50] <flaiks> well
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: but if 14.10 runs smooth enough, enjoy it few months
[06:50] <flaiks> stability is somewhat important
[06:50] <flaiks> I do web development and need a stable os for dev
[06:50] <flaiks> osx is slow, and windows, fuck no
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: trusty is supported till 2019 then you can move to another LTS
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> flaiks: a nice stable choice i would say
[06:51] <flaiks> lotuspsychje, is the repo updated until 2019 ?
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> !lts | flaiks
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> kokut: not sure this works on ubuntu, but maybe search this in conf: set PIDGIN_MULTI_INST=1
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> kokut: i readed some tricks about having mulitple profiles on pidgin
[06:54] <kokut> lotuspsychje: do you know where is that pidgin conf file?
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> kokut: not sure dont use it myself, try your /home with hidden folders on
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> kokut: or ask in #pidgin for multi sessions
[06:56] <kokut> lotuspsychje: yea, good advice :) just did
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> :p
[06:58] <kokut> lotuspsychje: that channel doesn't seem to be very active tho
[06:58] <GogoShaasho> Basically, i was running 14.04 on another HD which failed, got myself a new one, installed 14.10, used a USB adapter to access the old one, but couldn't since it's ubuntu-vg/root (it's also LUKS encrypted). I am quite sure I can access it once I change it's LVM name, however I can't mount it to change the name. Catch 22? Tried a live CD, but couldn't mount it there either! Anyone have any tips? at this poing ANTYHING will suffice
[06:59] <raj_> Hi, I get Authentication Failure whenever I use 'su'. However 'sudo' is wrking fine. This is 14.0.1 LTS
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> !su | raj_
[07:02] <Hercules> Hello, how do I install tcl library with apt on Ubuntu ?
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> Hercules: is this what you search? tcllib - Standard Tcl Library
[07:03] <Hercules> yh
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> Hercules: sudo apt-get install tcllib
[07:04] <Hercules> I tried installing with " apt-get install tcl-lib "
[07:04] <Hercules> ok
[07:04] <Hercules> thnx
[07:04] <Hercules> it did worked
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Hercules
[07:04] <Hercules> xD
[07:05] <Svetlana> yea just 'yay' is not quick and emotional enough apparently
[07:05] <fedora_newb> Can someone tell me if you have two instances, such as www.0 and www.1 and you install a crontab, will it run twice or will it just run once?
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> !crontab | fedora_newb
[07:06] <nusr> !register
[07:06] <Hercules> still eggdrop shows checking for Tcl library... not found T.T
[07:07] <cynicallemon> Hercules: apt-cache search <search term>
[07:07] <Hercules> ok
[07:07] <cynicallemon> will narrow it down
[07:07] <cynicallemon> Hercules: apt-cache search tcl (for example)
[07:08] <Hercules> ok
[07:10] <fedora_newb> lotuspsychije, I get what a cron does but will both instances run the cron at the same time, making me just having to install on one instance?
[07:14] <TheEagerPadawan> hi, i wonder what the bs flag stands for in the dd command
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> TheEagerPadawan: bs=BYTES
[07:16] <lotuspsychje>               read and write up to BYTES bytes at a time
[07:16] <Svetlana> TheEagerPadawan: «man dd», «/bs»: «       bs=BYTES
[07:16] <Svetlana>               read and write up to BYTES bytes at a time»
[07:16] <TheEagerPadawan> ok thanks gents
[07:20] <fedora_newb> lotuspsychije, I get what a cron does but will both instances run the cron at the same time, making me just having to install on one instance?
[07:41] <flaiks> my one gripe about ubuntu
[07:41] <flaiks> is the lack of a good mail client
[07:42] <cynicallemon> flaiks: what do you consider a good mail client?
[07:42] <flaiks> cynicallemon, postbox
[07:43] <flaiks> thunderbird is good, but I want to vomit when i look at those rounded tabs lol
[07:45] <Gevox> hello
[07:45] <Gevox> how to scroll up in screen?
[07:45] <hateball> Gevox: shift+pgup
[07:46] <Gevox> hateball: i mean in created screen by screen -S name
[07:50] <root> hi
[07:50] <Guest7965> ..
[07:50] <Guest7965> quit
[08:29] <LeMike> damn it. something in this company is sending a signal to the receiver of my keyboard, so that it turns the sound on and of 10 times a second. how can I block this? blocking the whole key is okay, but how?
[08:36] <leeyaa> hello
[08:36] <leeyaa> i am trying to connect to a serial console port. how to find out device name used ?
[08:37] <leeyaa> i dont see any output in dmesg if i unplug or plug the device
[08:41] <linux> is there a better dock than cairo dock?
[08:42] <OerHeks> better is an opinion, how about unity?
[08:42] <linux> im on unity 14.10
[08:51] <coax> Is xmodmap part of a basic ubuntu install?
[08:52] <OerHeks> coax yes
[08:55] <coax> interessant
[08:56] <coax> I am on a Mac keyboard which doesn't have an Insert key
[08:56] <coax> lasers in #i3 just blew my mind
[08:58] <kiseki> Hey all, is there a specific way in which to ask my questions here or should I just shoot?
[08:58] <ObrienDave> no SHOUTING ;p
[08:58] <ObrienDave> !ask
[08:59] <kiseki> !patience
[09:04] <kiseki> So, I'm trying to dual boot Linux on my desktop. I'm running Windows 8 currently, and booting from a liveUSB of Ubuntu 14.04.1. When the computer boots Ubuntu I get a black screen that resembles the cold dark void of DOS that says something about GRUB (which I'm too computer-stupid to know anything about), but the installer with its GUI is nowhere to be seen. I've been looking around but all I can find are blackscreen fixes and not fixes
[09:04] <kiseki> for this (I guess it's a terminal?) error on startup.
[09:05] <ObrienDave> it's probably UEFI
[09:05] <ObrienDave> !uefi
[09:05] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[09:05] <mikhael_k33hl> After installing bumbleebee on my Ubuntu 12.04, upon reboot it now says "The system is running in low graphics mode".
[09:06] <__david> can any one help me with this question http://askubuntu.com/questions/552144/how-to-repair-the-system
[09:07] <__david> !help
[09:08] <agent_white> __david: Maybe check /var/log/apt/history.log to see what all you removed?
[09:09] <__david> I have deleted some packages and now I am not able to connect to the internet is there a way that I could get the packages so that I will get the necessary packages
[09:09] <kiseki> Isn't UEFI the thing that I set the boot order from? Sorry if I'm too dense. also, I checked out that nomodeset post and I'm completely lost even though I'm really trying to understand all this GRUB stuff
[09:10] <aeon-ltd> __david: not without knowing what they are,  unless apt has a undo feature
[09:10] <__david> agent_white: It seems like I have removed a bunch of them, is there a way to get them back without internet in my laptop
[09:11] <__david> agent_white: I mean like tar.gz files
[09:12] <aeon-ltd> __david: can't you use ethernet?
[09:12] <__david> aeon-ltd: no luck with that too
[09:13] <agent_white> __david: Installing packages without an Internet connection
[09:13] <Prezident> Hey guys, i wanna backup my home_dir but exclude one folder, lets say Documents.
[09:13] <agent_white> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_packages_without_an_Internet_connection
[09:13] <Prezident> How to skip that?
[09:13] <__david> aeon-ltd: seems like i have removed ibus which seems to be important
[09:14] <agent_white> __david: See the link above!  More important than how is _what_ you need to install.
[09:14] <Prezident> tar -cvfz /var/my-backup.tgz /home/***** and i wann skip Documents in /home/****, how?
[09:14] <agent_white> Check your apt log to see what all you removed.
[09:15] <agent_white> Prezident: --exclude 'directory/*'
[09:15] <Prezident> thank you much agent_white
[09:15] <Ben64> Prezident: you could also check the tar man page, or the tar help page, both have that listed
[09:15] <agent_white> Prezident: --exclude 'directory/*' --exclude 'directory'... use BOTH.
[09:16] <Prezident> Ok agent_white, thank you alot.
[09:16] <Prezident>  /ignore Ben64
[09:16] <Ben64> Prezident: well that's silly, because you really should be checking "<command> --help" and "man <command>"
[09:17] <Prezident> Then answer everyone go google or go read manual.
[09:17] <Prezident> Totally useless.
[09:17] <Prezident> Enough offtopic, i got help and i am happy
[09:17] <Ben64> tar --help | grep -i exclude
[09:17] <Ben64> gives you the answer so easily
[09:18] <OerHeks> why read here, and not a manual.. odd
[09:18] <Ben64> i'm a big proponent of "teach a man to fish"
[09:18] <Ben64> show someone how to find answers and they'll help themselves forever, give them the answer and they never will learn
[09:18] <OerHeks> True that, Ben64
[09:33] <TheBigDeal> Morning everyone.
[09:33] <TheBigDeal> How can i add the application shortcut in the whisker menu in xubuntu?
[09:35] <perrr> hello. I just connected to my ubuntu. I dont see a sound volume slider in my right corner as before its disappeared someone can help?
[09:40] <Prezident> Sure Ben64 i understand your argument.
[09:40] <Prezident> On that man i could find the command he gave me, howcome?
[09:42] <Prezident> Oh, --exclude=/dir was enough
[09:42] <Prezident> thank you all! :)
[09:45] <agent_white> Good deal.
[09:45] <Prezident> perrr: gnome?
[09:46] <perrr> ingen aning
[09:50] <owen1> i use shift+insert to paste. from some reason it's not pasting into chromuim. any ideas?
[09:51] <ObrienDave> ctrl + v
[09:52] <owen1> ObrienDave: ctrl+v doesn't paste in any app for me (ff/chromium/xterm)
[09:52] <owen1> shift+insert does (expect for choromium)
[09:53] <ObrienDave> don't know, sorry
[09:53] <owen1> np!
[09:54] <k1l_> owen1: that is i3 specific
[09:55] <owen1> k1l_: );
[09:55] <owen1> is it bug with i3?
[09:57] <k1l_> xterm uses a different clipboard. so its either middlemouse or shift + insert.
[09:58] <k1l_> and you cant mix something you copied in xterm and paste that into another program
[10:00] <k1l_> so its cut buffers form xterm vs clipboard
[10:00] <owen1> k1l_: if i highlight text in xterm i can paste it (shift+insert) into firefox or gnome-terminl.
[10:03] <k1l_> owen1: did you read and understand what i wrote?
[10:04] <owen1> k1l_: i lost internet so maybe you wrote more stuff? i see that xterm uses different clipboard than some other apps.
[10:04] <owen1> so if i copy from xterm i might not be able to paste to EVERY app?
 xterm uses a different clipboard. so its either middlemouse or shift + insert.<k1l_> and you cant mix something you copied in xterm and paste that into another program
[10:04] <k1l_> owen1: yes.
[10:05] <k1l_> owen1: you can use a terminal that is more userfreindly by default like gnome terminal or xfce terminal
[10:07] <owen1> k1l_: your last sentense have huge impact on my coming weekend (;
[10:08] <owen1> since i have many settings (like solarized for vim) that depend on xterm
[10:08] <wetpussy1> http://imgdino.com/viewer.php?file=13186057727586306096.jpg
[10:11] <as> loveit
[10:11] <White_Cat> how can I login to git on ubuntu server?
[10:12] <owen1> k1l_: what about urxvt? i want a terminal that has small memory footprint
[10:13] <m_a_> ciao
[10:13] <as> l
[10:14] <geirha> White_Cat: What does that mean?
[10:14] <m_a_> parlo solo italiano
[10:14] <DJones> !it | m_a_
[10:14] <somsip> !it | m_a_
[10:15] <owen1> k1l_: also i just tested gnome-terminal and i paste into chromium using shift+insert. only middle mouse click works. and i prefer to use the keys. so switching to gnome-terminal will not solve my issue.
[10:15] <k1l_> owen1: its ctrl+v
[10:15] <geirha> owen1: in gnome-terminal, it's Ctrl+Shift+C to copy into the secondary buffer
[10:15] <as> I think its c+v
[10:16] <as> ii
[10:16] <owen1> geirha: why not just hightlight? why do i need ctrl+shift+c
[10:16] <owen1> in xterm i just highlight
[10:16] <geirha> owen1: highlighting only fills the primary buffer
[10:16] <owen1> geirha: and why can't i past this buffer to any app including chromium?
[10:16] <geirha> Ctrl+V and Shift+Insert usually use the secondary buffer, not the primary
[10:17] <owen1> how to make shift+insert use the primary?
[10:17] <owen1> or how to make highlight use the secondary?
[10:18] <owen1> hightlight should copy, shift+insert/ctrl+v/middle click should paste. /done
[10:18] <geirha> news to me
[10:18] <owen1> i wrote should (:
[10:19] <geirha> well I quite like that there's two (actually three, but third isn't really used much) buffers
[10:19] <owen1> what's the usage?
[10:19] <geirha> primary requires only marking with LMB, and pasting with MMB
[10:20] <owen1> what's lmb and mmb
[10:20] <geirha> Secondary requires using the keyboard (or right-click menu)
[10:20] <geirha> left and middle mouse buttons
[10:31] <owen1> so shift+insert is using the secondary buffer with chrome, but with firefox and xterm it uses the primary buffer?
[10:31] <owen1> geirha: ^
[10:32] <owen1> btw, highlight text inside chromium and pasting into xterm using shift+insert works.
[10:32] <geirha> here firefox is using secondary when I hit Shift+Insert, and xterm fills only the primary buffer when marking
[10:32] <ubuntuser13> unable to run java based program in ubuntu 14.04 64bit showing errors: unable to create java virtual machine and a fatal error occured. program will exit.
[10:32] <owen1> so it looks like highlight is consistant - alway put stuff in primary
[10:33] <geirha> shift+insert in xterm, seems to use the primary, yes
[10:34] <geirha> so xterm is the odd one out in that regard
[10:34] <avnish>  /msg NickServ REGISTER avnish123 avnishchandrasuman@gmail.com
[10:35] <geirha> avnish: ouch, never run the register/identify from an active channel
[10:36] <owen1> can the developers of an app decide where shift+insert get it's content from?
[10:36] <geirha> sure
[10:37] <owen1> i think they should just get the content from both the primary and secondary
[10:38] <ObrienDave> well, so much for that password LOL
[10:40] <azizLIGHT> how do i get the application crash report in a copy/pastable format?
[10:40] <azizLIGHT> i have some ppa which never get reported because ubuntu doesnt care about them
[10:40] <azizLIGHT> it tells me it wont report them because its not official or whatever
[10:41] <azizLIGHT> so hwo about letting me copy paste it. the little dialog box is not exactly conducive to copy paste
[10:41] <bazhang> azizLIGHT, contact the maintainer of the PPA
[10:41] <azizLIGHT> i know that part
[10:41] <azizLIGHT> im asking about how to copy paste the contents of the crash report
[10:41] <azizLIGHT> which looks like this and is not easy to copy/aste
[10:41] <bazhang> azizLIGHT, they will instruct you on what other info they may need
[10:41] <owen1> geirha: isn't this request exactly what we are talking about? https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=434739
[10:42] <azizLIGHT> http://i.imgur.com/Y0Taq0e.png
[10:42] <bazhang> azizLIGHT, include that in your report to the maintainer
[10:42] <azizLIGHT> HOW
[10:42] <azizLIGHT> you cant copy paste it
[10:42] <azizLIGHT> and i dont know where it saves
[10:43] <azizLIGHT> there is no context menu options
[10:43] <bazhang> with that screenshot first
[10:43] <azizLIGHT>  it
[10:43] <azizLIGHT> you cant even resize it
[10:43] <geirha> owen1: Seems like it, but it's confusing, because I copy/paste using the primary buffer daily, using both chrome and chromium
[10:44] <owen1> geirha: how exactly do you copy? ctrl+shift+c ?
[10:45] <geirha> owen1: no, I mark with left mouse button, paste with middle mouse button
[10:45] <nunizacu> hard to do if you have mac
[10:45] <Guest____> was just about to say rofl
[10:46] <owen1> h
[10:47] <geirha> did you really roll on the floor laughing because of that?
[10:48] <ObrienDave> probably ;P
[10:50] <owen1> is it possible to make a regular key behave as button 1? maybe with xmodmap
[10:52] <AndChat9081acs> Why am I not able to connect to ubuntu irc uisng xchat.. getting error... remote server closed connection
[10:52] <owen1> the reason i need that is my button 1 on my touchpad is hard to click on and i like to highlight with the touchpoint+button 1.
[10:53] <ObrienDave> AndChat9081acs, could be ssl, sasl or your ISP is as wonky as mine :)
[10:55] <AndChat9081acs> How to resolve it pls help
[10:55] <dupingping> hi everyone.
[10:55] <ObrienDave> try these settings http://i.imgur.com/jhCmjUS.png
[10:55] <OerHeks> AndChat9081acs, did you register your irc name ? that could help
[10:56] <dupingping> who can help me with pbuilder?
[10:56] <AndChat9081acs> No .. how do I do that
[10:56] <dupingping> I'm using precise.
[10:56] <OerHeks> !register > AndChat9081acs
[10:58] <ObrienDave> AndChat9081acs, when you get a chance, install HexChat
[10:59] <ObrienDave> Xchat is not maintained anymore
[11:00] <dupingping> hmm?
[11:00] <dupingping> xchat is not what?
[11:01] <krs> hello
[11:01] <krs> is there a non-X way to find and add windows/network printers?
[11:04] <bazhang> krs, using cups, via cli? is that what you mean?
[11:05] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide#Samba_Client_-_Manual_Configuration
[11:06] <krs> i have a printer connected to some windows machine on the network
[11:07] <krs> i can install X and use the graphical tools to find it, but rather not install X just to find a printer
[11:10] <owen1> how to turn my end key (keycode 115) into middle mouse click?
[11:11] <owen1> (not using gnome btw)
[11:11] <ObrienDave> i3?
[11:11] <owen1> ObrienDave: yup
[11:11] <avnish635w32921> hi priam
[11:11] <priyam_> hi
[11:11] <priyam_> r you getting my messages
[11:12] <avnish635w32921> yupp
[11:12] <priyam_> ok
 can anybody guide about this issue "http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/64f2a7e1"?
[11:14] <dreamcat4> hello. in unity, "edit connections" --> edit (my wifi connection) there is a greyed out checkbox named "firewall zone"
[11:14] <dreamcat4> how to enable it ?
[11:16] <owen1> how come i don't have the option to hibernate in 'power management'
[11:17] <owen1> (i want to hibernate when closing the lid)
[11:17] <OerHeks> iulhk, how do you install opensips? added a ppa? as opensips is no longer in the repositories
[11:18] <dreamcat4> owen1: you need to enable it in the file "/var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla"
[11:18] <dreamcat4> (then reboot your conputer)
[11:20] <owen1> what about /etc/systemd/logind.conf -  http://sourcedigit.com/12976-shutdown-hibernate-ubuntu-14-10-automatically-laptop-lid-closed/
[11:20] <owen1> dreamcat4: ^
 i have added "http://apt.opensips.org/" in my sources.list , i did aptitude update and then tried to install apt-get install opensips and getting this error
[11:21] <dreamcat4> owen1: i have 14.10 and didn't need to do that. only edit the desktop.pkla file and it worked
[11:21] <owen1> dreamcat4: ok. what kind of editing?
[11:21] <owen1> i see the word hibernate a few times there
[11:21] <OerHeks> iulhk, contact that ppa owner about missing packages, maybe you need to build them yourself
[11:21] <dreamcat4> owen1: btw - hibernation will fail with an error if you selected 'encrypt my home folder' during 14.10 installation
[11:22] <dreamcat4> owen1: near the bottom of the file, there are 2 entries regarding hibernation. change "enabled=NO" to "enabled=YES". sorry i forget esactly.
[11:22] <owen1> dreamcat4: Change the value of "ResultActive=no" to "ResultActive=yes" in both, and then restart your system.
[11:22] <owen1> (found it online)
[11:22] <avnish635w32921> hi, any suggestions about best hex editor on ubuntu
[11:23] <dreamcat4> owen1: ^^ yes exactly that. nothing else should be necessary, just reboot the machine and the menus should appear.
[11:23] <ObrienDave> avnish635w32921, wxHexEditor
[11:24] <avnish635w32921> ObrienDave, thanks, let me give it a try
[11:24] <ObrienDave> !info wxHexEditor
[11:24] <owen1> dreamcat4: thanks1
[11:24] <dreamcat4> np, you're welcome
[11:25] <callipygous> quick question:  I'm about to download Ubuntu for my intel Celeron 64bit laptop... I only see x86 and amd64 images...
[11:25] <cfhowlett> callipygous, what else would you expect?
[11:25] <OerHeks> callipygous, get the amd64 bit version, and you are fine
[11:25] <callipygous> 64 bit intel?
[11:25] <dreamcat4> owen1: hey if you want to do me a favor, can you see if the "firewall zone" option in your edit network connections is selecteable, or greyed out ?
[11:25] <callipygous> ok thanks
[11:25] <cfhowlett> callipygous, AMD 64 = Intel 64
[11:26] <callipygous> it does? :O
[11:26] <OerHeks> amd was the first vendor with a 64 bit+32bit cpu
[11:26] <dreamcat4> owen1: edit an existing network connection, look in first tab
[11:26] <ObrienDave> callipygous, for what you want, yes
[11:26] <owen1> dreamcat4: 1 sec
[11:27] <callipygous> another quick question, is e17 or e19 in aptitude?
[11:27] <OerHeks> !find e17q
[11:27] <OerHeks> !find e17
[11:27] <callipygous> !find e19
[11:28] <callipygous> hmm , k
[11:28] <callipygous> thanks
[11:28] <ObrienDave> !info e19
[11:28] <owen1> dreamcat4: greyed out
[11:28] <callipygous> !info e17
[11:28] <dreamcat4> owen1: thought so. so it's not just me then
[11:28] <dreamcat4> owen1: okay, thanks for confirming that
[11:29] <owen1> np
[11:29] <owen1> dreamcat4: what laptop do u use?
[11:29] <owen1> just curious
[11:29] <dreamcat4> owen1: is it important? for the hibernation?
[11:29] <wtiger> Hi folks
[11:29] <wtiger> I'm running ubuntu 14.10 64bit
[11:30] <wtiger> can I install pantheon on it?
[11:30] <owen1> dreamcat4: just looking for carbno x1 users
[11:30] <dreamcat4> owen1: not me. borrowing a very cheap laptop
[11:30] <owen1> ok
[11:30] <owen1> thanks
[11:31] <OerHeks> wtiger, pantheon is a elementary thing, if you add their ppa, maybe.
[11:31] <wtiger> ok
[11:31] <OerHeks> wtiger, carefull, ppa's are not supported here.
[11:32] <wtiger> ohh
[11:32] <wtiger> sure
[11:37] <owen1> dreamcat4: after restart, do i need to change the 'power settings' to 'hibrenate' when the lid is closed?
[11:37] <owen1> i don't have that option.
[11:37] <rr555> well ive succesfully managed to master using tor as a http proxy, no thanks to this place though
[11:38] <dreamcat4> owen1: i don't have that option either. there is probably a way to do it by editing a file in /etc/ somewhere
[11:39] <AceKing> Does anyone know why OpenVPN is not establishing a succesful connection in 14.10 64 bit? I've been racking my brain for 2 days now.
[11:39] <rr555> to put it bluntly ubuntu didnt help me at all i ended up using windows
[11:39] <owen1> dreamcat4: how long until your laptop actualy hibrenate? i just turn the lid off, and the light was flashing slowly, as if it's in suspend mode.
[11:41] <sacarlson1> AceKing: try openvpn without encryption to start and move up from there
[11:41] <dreamcat4> owen1: that depends a lot on the specific laptop. but what you say sounds like suspend (which is correct for the settings in power management)
[11:42] <owen1> but i thought changing that file would make it hibernate
[11:42] <ObrienDave> AceKing, try the instructions at VPNbook ;)
[11:43] <AceKing> sacarlson1: Just curious how I would do that. I have the .ovpn file that I usually import from the network manager. Do I need to edit the file?
[11:43] <hollusion> hello i am using xvnc4viwer to conntect to a x11vnc and have the following problem: shift+tab gets interpreted as tab and ctrl+f8 results in f8 and so on. do you know how to fix this?
[11:44] <ObrienDave> AceKing, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/05/establish-openvpn-connection-ubuntu-1404/
[11:44] <sacarlson1> AceKing: well if that's the only point you can test from then that's all you got.  did it work on 14.04?
[11:44] <AceKing> sacarlson1: Yes, I've been using it for years on all other systems
[11:44] <AceKing> ObrienDave: I will check that out
[11:45] <sacarlson1> AceKing: also did you run it in a term so you can see the progress it did make?
[11:46] <AceKing> sacarlson1: I did find that solution online, but I wasn't sure how to run it in a terminal.
[11:46] <dreamcat4> owen1: ah! i found the solution. you need to install gnome tweak tool. there is a setting in there to do it. trust me.
[11:47] <sacarlson1> AceKing: just make sure you don't have the first one running already  ps -A | grep open ;
[11:47] <AceKing> sacarlson1: OK, I'm trying that now
[11:49] <dreamcat4> owen1: "sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool"
[11:49] <AceKing> sacarlson1: At the risk of sounding stupid, do I need to put the location of the .ovpn file I'm trying to connect to?
[11:49] <sacarlson1> AceKing: then it should be just sudo openvpn --config /path/to/your.ovpn
[11:50] <sacarlson1> AceKing: you will need the full path to your .ovpn file yes
[11:50] <AceKing> sacarlson1: OK
[11:51] <dreamcat4> gotta go
[11:53] <admin2> hi
[11:54] <AceKing> sacarlson1: Can I PM you?
[11:55] <sacarlson1> AceKing: sure no problem
[11:57] <Z3> Hi, I would like how to configure VLC to convert 5.1 sound to stereo and output this to ALSA
[12:04] <White_Cat> how can I login to git on ubuntu server?
[12:04] <White_Cat> is it a config file?
[12:12] <philip__> hello
[12:12] <philip__> having troubles with partition
[12:12] <ObrienDave> ask away
[12:13] <philip__> running ubuntu server and my harddisk is full when i slot in another harddisk it sees it as 8mb instead of 300 gb
[12:15] <philip__> hello any help
[12:15] <philip__> running ubuntu server and my harddisk is full when i slot in another harddisk it sees it as 8mb instead of 300 gb
[12:15] <ObrienDave> what's it formatted as? ntfs, fat16, fat32?
[12:15] <ObrienDave> !patience
[12:15] <philip__> have not done any formatting
[12:15] <philip__> i just insert it
[12:16] <maverik> hi all
[12:16] <maverik> c'è qualche italiano qui?
[12:16] <nunizacu> hi guy
[12:17] <nunizacu> at least i dont know italian
[12:17] <ObrienDave> philip__, well, i know nothing about how server handles such things. just figured it might need it
[12:17] <ObrienDave> !it | maverik
[12:17] <nunizacu> and - ansawering am not ialian
[12:18] <maverik> thk
[12:18] <philip__> ObrienDave  i dont understand
[12:21] <ObrienDave> i don't know server. it seems to me the drive needs to be formatted before inserting in the server. i don't really know one way or the other
[12:21] <ObrienDave> you could ask in #ubuntu-server
[12:22] <nunizacu> cant you boot from other media like floppy/cd/pxe and format it?
[12:22] <tarkus> How do you guys install the latest software on ubunto? Doing apt-get install curl.. it installs 7.37 instead of 7.39.. same with other packages
[12:23] <solsTiCe> tarkus: either you find a ppa or you compile from source
[12:23] <nunizacu> u use 04 or 10 ?
[12:23] <ObrienDave> tarkus, most packages in the repos are behind the bleeding edge for stability issues
[12:24] <tarkus> 10
[12:24] <xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx> hello
[12:24] <xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx> I am configuring my iptables
[12:25] <xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx> what ports do I have to allow for root, if I want be able to make updates
[12:25] <ObrienDave> philip__, have you asked in #ubuntu-server?
[12:26] <ObrienDave> xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx, what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[12:26] <tarkus> what does 'source' command do? Is it a build-in utility?
[12:26] <tarkus> Trying to run 'source ~/.kre/kvm/kvm.sh' but it produces no output..
[12:26] <xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx> to block all connection except those that are necessary. i want a secure system
[12:27] <sacarlson1> tarkus: it normaly adds to the envirnment of a script or in this case I guess the shell you run
[12:27] <nunizacu> i cant find 7.39 package, you have to roll your own
[12:27] <ObrienDave> !info curl
[12:28] <nunizacu> get sources of curl, get new curl, do so magic and install
[12:28] <nunizacu> but whats so special about 37 vs 39 ?
[12:28] <ObrienDave> ppa curl. not supported here
[12:31] <maverik>  /join #ubuntu-it
[12:31] <maverik>  /join #ubuntu-it
[12:32] <ObrienDave> maverik, no "space" in front
[12:37] <philip__> question on partition
[12:37] <sacarlson1> philip__: they hold formated computer data
[12:38] <philip__> my current harddisk is full. will love to add another hard disk to add up to the current one
[12:39] <OerHeks> philip__, what's it formatted as? ntfs ? ext3/ext4 ?
[12:40] <daniel> hi
[12:40] <philip__> u mean the new harddisk or the old one
[12:40] <nedal> hi, do you know a program that can stimulate a electronic circuits and show the variation on screen
[12:41] <OerHeks> philip__, as you have issues with the new hdd, why would i ask for the old one?
[12:41] <sacarlson1> nedal: do you mean simulate?
[12:41] <philip__> i have not done anything to it.i just inserted it
[12:41] <philip__> without doing anything
[12:41] <OerHeks> nedal, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEngineering#Electronics
[12:42] <OerHeks> philip__, please do not dcc crap
[12:43] <OerHeks> philip__, what does gparted say about your added hdd?
[12:43] <sacarlson1> nedal: is you ment to say simulate then spice is one electronic simulation software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPICE,
[12:44] <solsTiCe> hi. trying to connect to a pptp fails with network-manager. It was working fine before. I found some stuff online that talks about a buggy libgcrypt11 1.5.0 but it has been upgraded since in ubuntu 14.10
[12:44] <solsTiCe> I gt somthing like "NetworkManager[1423]: <warn> /sys/devices/virtual/net/ppp0: couldn't determine device driver; ignoring..."
[12:44] <philip__> i did a dmesg and the new harddisk says 8mb instead of 300gb
[12:44] <sacarlson1> nedal: they also have programs to use your sound card as a oscope if you want to play with real electronics.  you can also create custom waves with a sound card output to provide input to electronics
[12:46] <OerHeks> philip__, no pm's please, keep it in this channel
[12:46] <philip__> ok
[12:46] <OerHeks> last warning
[12:47] <philip__> 0erHeks any help
[12:47] <OerHeks> philip__, what does gparted say about your added hdd?
[12:48] <philip__> the server is running on full TUI
[12:49] <philip__> no graphic at all
[12:49] <ObrienDave> OerHeks, would a HDD automatically be formatted to match a mirrored drive in server?
[12:49] <OerHeks> thne use the non-gui tool parted
[12:49] <kanapka_> hello
[12:50] <philip__> have no idea on how to use it
[12:50] <philip__> kind of new to it
[12:51] <gspe> Hi, I have some problem with lightdm and probably Xorg. When I try to login after suspend I can see the screen but seams to be like frozen, I can move the mouse around but clicks has no effect the same with the keyboard, the only thing that works is ctrl-alt-F1-7. I'm able to log in in the terminal and restart lightdm but this is very annoying.
[12:52] <OerHeks> philip__, if that hdd is sdb, sudo parted /dev/sdb print
[12:52] <vlt> Hello. On Ubuntu 12.04 LTS I get strange crashes from chromium-browser: "Nov 21 13:47:11 parker kernel: [2439252.623971] Browser[18181]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fe51f825843 sp 00007fff8a9c07a0 error 6 in libxul.so[7fe51da75000+2aed000]"  Any idea how to troubleshoot this?
[12:52] <philip__> the hdd is sdb
[12:53] <sacarlson1> gspe: I should assume with it working as well as you have it that you have a swap space as big or a bit bigger than you ram in your system?
[12:53] <moveax_devhq> hey all
[12:54] <moveax_devhq> i am trying to set up a local portforwarding
[12:54] <moveax_devhq> i want to forward port localhost port 80 to localhost port 8011
[12:54] <moveax_devhq> "ssh -L 80:localhost:8011 localhost" is not working for me
[12:54] <gspe> sacarlson1: yes I have 16gb ram and 2 34gb swap partition
[12:54] <moveax_devhq> is there another simple way to do that?
[12:54] <philip__> Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags
[12:54] <philip__>  1      32.3kB  263MB  263MB  primary  fat32        lba
[12:55] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[12:56] <gspe> sacarlson1: This problem happen recently after the upgrade to 14.10
[12:57] <sacarlson1> gspe: oh try the older kernel in your grub menu then
[12:59] <gspe> sacarlson1: next time I reboot I'll try this
[12:59] <therue> :( tried to install 3 times.... never worked
[13:00] <ObrienDave> philip__, that's only showing 300MB
[13:01] <cfhowlett> therue, if you want to help you have to actually provide useful details ...
[13:02] <zibidigibi> hello how can i disable the transition effect when locking/unlocking in ubuntu 14.04?
[13:02] <zibidigibi> it's so slow
[13:03] <sacarlson1> moveax_devhq: I guess you could try some iptables stuf,  or maybe squid proxy or a few other options
[13:03] <vlt> moveax_devhq: Could you describe "not working for you", please? Can you establish an ssh connection? What does "netstat -tulpen" look like afterwards?
[13:03] <sacarlson1> moveax_devhq: I must say I've never tryed to do what your doing so not sure it will work
[13:03] <vlt> moveax_devhq: Is there already listening something else on port 80?
[13:04] <therue> i tried to install 14.10, but whenever i tried to install... it just takes forever and never ends... and when i see the command line at the bottom. i see a bunch of failed autopawn lock type stuff
[13:04] <ObrienDave> !details | therue
[13:04] <therue> from this somethingaudio program
[13:04] <therue> but i basically have to exit out of the install 'cuz nothing happens after 3 hours
[13:05] <zibidigibi> hey guys, when i lock / unlock my ubuntu 14.04 there is some sort of alpha-blend effect like fade-in fade-out, how can I disable that? i tried disabling all effects in compizconfig settings manager but didn't help
[13:16] <m1dnight_> Hi, I've pressed *some* shortcut multiple times and i'm sick of it :p
[13:17] <m1dnight_> it minimizes any application ( chrome in this case) and it disappears from the taskbar
[13:17] <m1dnight_> but is still running
[13:17] <m1dnight_> anyone know who I can reopen them?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | therue, 1.  md5sum your .iso     2. md5sum your USB!
[13:23] <toto1> brightness adjust stop working, how to fix it - 14.04.1
[13:23] <Simonides9000> hey there! Is there anyone who can tell me: if my default graphic environment is gnome (but i've got unity installed - but i've messed it) - to run unity i must type "setsid unity" in terminal. My question is: how to do it with gnome-shell? "setsid gnome-shell" won't work. TIA
[13:24] <therue> i did md5sum.... it says it's fine
[13:24] <cfhowlett> therue, you checked the .iso AND your usb?
[13:29] <therue> i downloaded an iso again
[13:29] <therue> and checked it
[13:29] <therue> THEN i put it on the usb
[13:29] <OerHeks> therue, is this on a win8 machine ?
[13:29] <OerHeks> sure you disabled secureboot and fastboot?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> therue, verify -  the - usb >>>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD
[13:31] <therue> i used the program winMD5Sum from that site and checked the iso already
[13:31] <cfhowlett> therue, for the last time:  verifying the .iso and verifying the USB are TWO DIFFERENT STEPS !!!
[13:36] <therue> hmm how do i verify the usb?
[13:36] <therue> it shows instructions for linux command line
[13:36] <therue> but i'm on windows
[13:36] <therue> can i verify the usb with winumd55sum too?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> therue, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD
[13:37] <cfhowlett> substitute "usb" for "cdrom"
[13:43] <claudio_> hello guys!
[13:45] <claudio_> i need a gimp like to edit pics and to setup for the web which is the best?
[13:45] <mdoge> claudio_: thats not a question
[13:45] <cfhowlett> claudio_, "best" is the one you prefer to use.  it's subjective. gimp works fine
[13:46] <claudio_> yes i need to resize the jpg
[13:46] <cfhowlett> claudio_, ... gimp
[13:47] <claudio_> mmm
[13:47] <claudio_> tks
[13:48] <philip__> yes but the actual space for the hdd is 300gb
[13:48] <claudio_> isn't there anyone to do it simple?
[13:48] <philip__> why showing 300mb
[13:49] <daftykins> claudio_: your questions don't make sense in English
[13:49] <cfhowlett> claudio google translate is making this worse.  what is your spoken language???
[13:49] <claudio_> how do i do it with gimp
[13:49] <claudio_> spansh
[13:49] <daftykins> !es
[13:49] <cfhowlett> !gimp
[13:49] <claudio_> tks
[13:50] <claudio_> ok
[13:52] <claudio_> i'v got it, thaks!
[13:53] <jaymaker> Hey guys
[13:53] <daftykins> hello
[13:56] <assemblyx> hi all
[13:57] <daftykins> hi
[13:57] <jaymaker> ugh! I feel like crap :/
[13:57] <daftykins> that's nice, unfortunately unless you're running ubuntu we can't help
[13:57] <daftykins> so please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:58] <jaymaker> I'm sorry dafty. Are you a mod?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> jaymaker, please ask your ubuntu support question
[14:01] <therue> eh... so on my usb. i see a md5sum txt file
[14:01] <therue> and a md5sums file
[14:01] <therue> do i just take that file and compare it to the md5sum value from the web site?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> therue, read.  substitute USB for cdrom.  read.  follow.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD
[14:02] <therue> i'm not on linux
[14:02] <therue> all of that requires a terminal
[14:03] <cfhowlett> therue, true
[14:03] <assemblyx> not sure if my question was posted, what would i install to configure my launcher? I'd like to place it along the bottom
[14:03] <therue> i have a windows system
[14:03] <therue> dual boot
[14:03] <therue> just windows for now , i'm trying to set up dual boot
[14:04] <therue> so i dont have linux installed yet
[14:04] <ZerOlegend> assemblyx, check out cairo-dock
[14:04] <daftykins> assemblyx: i don't think it can be moved at all, the unity one
[14:04] <ZerOlegend> you can set the unity launche to auto hide
[14:04] <ZerOlegend> but cairo-dock is a good app you can apt-get and works really well
[14:05] <assemblyx> thanks
[14:05] <ZerOlegend> you are welcome
[14:12] <BadApe> i was wondering about implementing a home file server, has anyone played with one of those private cloud services here?
[14:12] <iptable> yes
[14:12] <BadApe> which one?
[14:12] <iptable> what kind of file server?
[14:12] <BadApe> well i would like to do backups of my devices, i have windows, linux, android, iphones etc
[14:13] <iptable> on ubuntu, I just install apache2 and samba (cifs).
[14:13] <BadApe> hardware is not a worry as i have a big dl380 i got from ebay
[14:13] <BadApe> i was thinking it would be cute to have something like dropbox backing up documents etc to a vm
[14:13] <BadApe> a private local dropbox service
[14:13] <iptable> depends on what backups you want to do. for my laptops, I have a backup partition which is btrfs filesystem type and use btrfs snapshots to copy /home on my laptops. For windows, you could install and use cifs (samba).
[14:14] <iptable> samba + apache2 + webdav plugin = dropbox
[14:14] <BadApe> needs a client to auto sync
[14:14] <Pici> BadApe: A lot of people here seem to like owncloud, don't use the packages in Ubuntu though, they are a bit out of date.
[14:14] <iptable> now you are complicating stuff ;)
[14:15] <BadApe> maybe a freenas vm or opennas
[14:15] <tarkus> When I do echo "..." > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list -- it errors "Permission denied" how to deal with it?
[14:15] <iptable> BadApe: you are asking on ubuntu channel. having said that freenas is a good solution if you have loads of ram to feed zfs
[14:15] <tarkus> Trying to install Mono as described here http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/
[14:15] <iptable> tarkus: that's because the file is editable by root only
[14:16] <tarkus> iptable, how to edit it by root?
[14:16] <BadApe> iptable: something like that
[14:16] <iptable> tarkus: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list
[14:16] <BadApe> maybe there is an ubuntu based nas distro
[14:16] <iptable> tarkus: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list
[14:17] <iptable> tarkus: bash -c "echo '...' > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list"
[14:17] <tarkus> iptable, thanks
[14:17] <BadApe> i use ubuntu server, but they consist of java, jetty and a .war file
[14:17] <iptable> BadApe: no, 'fraid there isn't. but try owncloud as someone suggested
[14:17] <richardjs> tarkus: or "sudo bash" to get a root shell, and then use the commands from the tutorial normally
[14:17] <BadApe> iptable: thanks
[14:17] <richardjs> tarkus: just be careful with it
[14:17] <iptable> richardjs: no, that's a very bad way
[14:17] <Guest99885> hello
[14:18] <iptable> richardjs: at least use sudo -i, if you must be root. but going root should be avoided if possible. it's bad practice. use sudo/gksudo instead. official ubuntu way.
[14:18] <k1l_> tarkus: what do you actually need? mono is n the ubuntu repos
[14:18] <richardjs> iptable, tarkus: I
[14:18] <tarkus> k1l_ when i run $ mono ... it says no such app
[14:18] <richardjs> iptable, tarkus: That's not the greatest way, it's true*
[14:19] <tarkus> k1l_ so, trying to install it as described here: http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/
[14:19] <k1l_> tarkus: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=mono
[14:19] <k1l_> tarkus: what do you actually need of that?
[14:19] <iptable> tarkus: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install mono
[14:19] <iptable> tarkus: tried that? or apt-cache search mono
[14:19] <richardjs> tarkus: In theory, though... what is wrong with it if you make sure you know what each command is doing?
[14:19] <richardjs> whoops, iptable^
[14:19] <iptable> richardjs: that the user clearly doesn't ?
[14:19] <k1l_> tarkus: the first way should always be to look if ubuntu ships packages you need instead of loading 3rd party stuff that might break your whole system
[14:20] <iptable> richardjs: also, typos and assumptions ;)
[14:20] <richardjs> iptable: Ok, fair enough :)
[14:20] <toche> hello world
[14:20] <richardjs> You can typo a sudo command too, though
[14:20] <iptable> world: no user by this name
[14:20] <amir7192> im using this app for the first
[14:21] <k1l_> tarkus: so ubuntu ships already mono-devel and mono-complete.
[14:21] <amir7192> i have a problem in my ubuntu i cant empty my trash
[14:21] <iptable> richardjs: you are less likely to cause system destruction if you have to choose which commands will run with root privileges though. that'sthe whole point. especially for users who are unsure
[14:22] <richardjs> iptable: Yeah, I agree with that. tarkus: Ignore my suggestion :)
[14:22] <iptable> richardjs: don't get me wrong. when configuring a server from scratch in full, I normally go into root immediately as all my commands will need privileges. but for helping unsure average jo and jane, sudo is better. teach them good ways first
[14:22] <tarkus> k1l_ actually I'm trying to install aspnet KVM.. it requires mono, bash, zsh and curl: https://github.com/aspnet/Home
[14:23] <iptable> amir7192: define "can't empty trash". error/can't find it/something else? we can't read your mind, you know
[14:23] <iptable> tarkus: sudo apt-get install mon bash zsh curl
[14:23] <arun_>  anyone here knows how to repair a broken initrd image?
[14:23] <k1l_> tarkus: well than install that from the repos
[14:23] <iptable> tarkus: or use apt-cache search. all of these are already in ubuntu repos. no need to add apt sources
[14:23] <richardjs> iptable: Yeah, that's the situation I'm typically thinking of (going root to set up a system), but you're right in that the situation doesn't apply to everyone
[14:23] <k1l_> tarkus: well, the official ubuntu repos, that is.
[14:24] <iptable> arun_: regenerate initrd
[14:24] <k1l_> tarkus: are you aware of ubunut having a package system?
[14:24] <arun_> iptable: can u help me with that?
[14:24] <tarkus> k1l_ yep a little
[14:24] <arun_> iptable: any guides?
[14:24] <silvi1> cisao
[14:24] <silvi1> ciao
[14:24] <tarkus> k1l_ I assume something similar to other systems (npm, etc)
[14:24] <silvi1> !list
[14:24] <iptable> arun_: man mkinitrd
[14:25] <iptable> arun_: or: sudo update-initramfs -c -k 2.6.32.59
[14:25] <k1l_> tarkus: so install the needed packages and you are good to go
[14:25] <iptable> arun_: replace version with your kernel version
[14:25] <iptable> arun_: ls /boot to find it
[14:25] <iptable> arun_: don't forget to update-grub2. as well. makes sense to do so after regenerating
[14:26] <arun_> iptable: ok, and will this command work for other distros too ?
[14:26] <iptable> tarkus: I already gave you the package system (apt) commands you need to use to install. that's all that is required
[14:26] <iptable> arun_: not necessarily. depends.
[14:26] <iptable> arun_: works for ubuntu.
[14:27] <frank_> Buen dia alguien habla español
[14:27] <iptable> !es |grank_
[14:27] <iptable> !es |frank_
[14:32] <tarkus> It seems like 'apt-get install mono' installed mono 3.2.8, but the latest version is 3.8.0..
[14:32] <daftykins> ubuntu version?
[14:33] <Raven67854> tarkus, http://www.mono-project.com/download/#download-lin
[14:33] <Raven67854> If you want 3.8
[14:33] <k1l_> tarkus: do you need the latest version?
[14:34] <tarkus> ubuntu v 14.10 (latest)
[14:34] <k1l_> tarkus: and i really mean: need. not "but i want the latest"
[14:34] <teward> tarkus: you'll need to keep in mind that what's in the repos tends to be version locked - if you *want* mono 3.8 you'll either need to download it yourself and compile or find a PPA (and PPAs are 'use at your own risk').  Unless you have a real need for mono 3.8.0, I don't see why you'd need to update.
[14:34] <teward> s/update/get the latest version/
[14:35] <iptable> tarkus: did you apt-get update first before install?
[14:35] <tarkus> iptable yep
[14:35] <iptable> tarkus: also, as others asked, do you NEED the latest version, or latest ubuntu version is fine for your needs? latest != better and NEED
[14:36] <tarkus> I'm trying to use aspnet.. but getting this error:
[14:36] <tarkus> https://gist.github.com/koistya/b02b2c68fd769ed4c4df
[14:37] <tarkus> so, i though.. maybe that's somehow related to mono not being the latest version installed on my machine..
[14:39] <daftykins> dev'ing as root, interesting
[14:40] <cfhowlett> dev'ing as root = don't sound right!
[14:40] <tarkus> yeah, i don't know how to exit from root :)
[14:40] <tarkus> yet
[14:40] <k1l_> tarkus: well. if you are root your file permissions get ruined.
[14:40] <k1l_> tarkus: exit
[14:40] <tarkus> k1l_ worked:)
[14:44] <iptable> :/
[14:48] <deb> Hello, my usb camera mounts here gphoto2://[usb:002,002]/DCIM ... ls /media/myuser/ dont showit, either in $(HOME)/.gvfs , where is my usb camera mounted in ubuntu 14.04 32bits?]
[14:49] <daftykins> deb: type "mount" to find out
[14:49] <deb> weird in /run/user/1000/gvfs   ...?
[14:50] <crem_> I'm trying to add a new keyboard layout variant. I added it to symbols/by and rules/evdev.xml, and I can see the layout in settings and also "show layout" shows correct layout image. But still when I type with it on, I just get latin layout instead. What did I miss?
[14:50] <crem_> ah yes, I removed /var/lib/xkb/*.xkm
[14:58] <cyberalex4life> hello! When kill xserver with Ctrl + Alt + Backspace I see for a short time some errors. How can I look at those messages whenever I wish?
[14:58] <daftykins> cyberalex4life: zapping has been disabled for years because it doesn't work right
[14:59] <daftykins> cyberalex4life: if you want to restart X, you should be stopping and starting lightdm from a TTY.
[15:00] <cyberalex4life> yes, I did that but when pres Ctrl+Alt+F7 it only shows a black screen. This used to work in Ubuntu Gnome Trusty
[15:01] <arun_> iptable: should I need to enter sudo update-initramfs -c -k 2.6.32.59 in live mode?
[15:01] <the8thbit|work> Whenever I try to download a package through apt-get I get this error: http://pastebin.com/3ze0bfUD
[15:03] <the8thbit|work> when I run apt-get -f install I get this: http://pastebin.com/nz0EBemk
[15:03] <iptable> arun_: live mode? as in liveCD? you want to fix your HDD, you will need to mount the HDD partition(s) in /mnt, then mount bind the /sys, /proc and /dev in /mnt and then chroot into /mnt
[15:03] <cfhowlett> the8thbit|work, what does this terminal command return:  cat /etc/issue
[15:03] <the8thbit|work> cfhowlett: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[15:03] <arun_> hm.. ok
[15:04] <the8thbit|work> also of note, this started happening shortly after uninstalling and reinstalling gcc
[15:04] <the8thbit|work> and also did something with libc6-dev-i386 and libc6-dev-amd64
[15:04] <the8thbit|work> but I forgot exactly what I did
[15:04] <the8thbit|work> maybe reinstalled them too idk
[15:07] <iptable> the8thbit|work: remove libc6-dev-i386 and leave/install libc6-dev-amd64
[15:08] <iptable> the8thbit|work: or to get your system to NORMAL, remove libc6-dev-i386 and libc6-dev-amd64 and install libc6-dev.
[15:08] <the8thbit|work> iptable: http://pastebin.com/mw1mNtmk
[15:08] <iptable> the8thbit|work: if you need 386, install libc6-dev and libc6-dev:i386
[15:09] <iptable> the8thbit|work: at this point I cannot tell how to fix it until you can say what you did to break it exactly
[15:09] <the8thbit|work> hmm
[15:09] <the8thbit|work> maybe its in my zsh history...
[15:09] <the8thbit|work> at some point I did this, but I think that might have been an attempted fix: apt-cache policy libc6-dev-i386
[15:10] <iptable> ha to highlight it's zsh :P
[15:10] <iptable> the8thbit|work: got aptitude? try aptitude -f install. it oculd give you solutions
[15:10] <Pici> the8thbit|work: policy just reports information, it doesn't change anything.
[15:12] <the8thbit|work> aptitude is smarter than me it seems
[15:12] <the8thbit|work> thanks iptable and Pici
[15:13] <iptable> the8thbit|work: there we go :D if you answer No to it, it will look for other solutions. you can quit and retry if you want as well.
[15:15] <the8thbit|work> hnnggg
[15:15] <the8thbit|work> iptable: still not fixed: http://pastebin.com/i2yrKkKb
[15:16] <alex_853> #koumbit
[15:17] <daftykins> alex_853: no thanks
[15:18] <iptable> the8thbit|work: aptitude install libc6-dev-i386 now
[15:18] <alex_853> Join #koumbit
[15:18] <OerHeks> alex_853, please don'spam, thanks
[15:28] <BAMbanda> I'm trying to install libpg-dev on  ubuntu, but my apt-get can't locate the package
[15:28] <BAMbanda> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libpq-dev
[15:28] <iptable> BAMbanda: apt-get update
[15:28] <daftykins> you typed libpg when it's a Q, BAMbanda
[15:28] <BAMbanda> ahhhh
[15:29] <iptable> ah, mised that :D nice one daftykins
[15:29] <daftykins> :) ty
[15:29] <BAMbanda> that makes me so happy!
[15:29] <BAMbanda> thanks daftykins
[15:29] <daftykins> anytime :) i like the easy ones
[15:29] <BAMbanda> hehe
[15:29] <iptable> pervert :P
[15:31] <the8thbit|work> iptable: got the same error
[15:32] <iptable> the8thbit|work: remove the gcc multilib and other dev packages causing the issue until no problem occurs and try again, using aptitude, if you really need multilib gcc
[15:32] <iptable> the8thbit|work: normally I just install build-essential whihc installs everything for me ;)
[15:34] <OerHeks> the8thbit|work, libpq-dev is part of postgresql-server-dev-9.4
[15:34] <OerHeks> http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/postgresql-server-dev-9.4
[15:35] <the8thbit|work> iptable: I think uninstalling the offending packages through aptitude worked, thanks :)
[15:36] <JediMaster> As ia32-libs is no longer available, what is the alternative in Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:36] <iptable> JediCheese: there isn't one
[15:37] <iptable> JediCheese: why do you need 500 i386 packages on your 64 bit?
[15:37] <yeats> JediMaster: packagename.i686
[15:37] <JediMaster> JediCheese?
[15:37] <iptable> auto-complete
[15:37] <iptable> fail
[15:37] <JediMaster> =)
[15:37] <iptable> JediMaster: if you need an i386 package, you do package:i385
[15:37] <iptable> i386 that is
[15:37] <JediMaster> yeats/iptable, I'm converting an i386 .rpm with alient to a deb, it's some i386 ODBC drivers
[15:37] <yeats> eww - I wouldn't do that
[15:38] <iptable> if you install dsomethings via dpkg that needs i386 packages and complains that dependencies are not met, you apt-get -f install and that will install the required i386 packages for you
[15:38] <JediMaster> the x64 worked but the driver is a bit buggy
[15:38] <JediMaster> I've been told the windows odbc equivilant has problems with 64 bit version so wanted to try the i386 version on linux
[15:38] <yeats> JediMaster: are you certain that there isn't an already packaged version of whatever it is you're trying to install?
[15:39] <JediMaster> I can extract the .so libs however LDD doesn't read out the dependancies
[15:39] <JediMaster> ldd complains "not a dynamic executable"
[15:40] <yeats> JediMaster: what does 'file bleh.so' say?
[15:42] <JediMaster> opt/ibm/iSeriesAccess/lib/libcwbcore.so: ELF 32-bit LSB  shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped
[15:42] <JediMaster> yeats ^^
[15:43] <yeats> JediMaster: hmm - maybe ldd needs 32-bit libs itself - I don't know that for certain, though
[15:43] <JediMaster> yeah, that's what I figured
[15:44] <JediMaster> meh: ldd /usr/bin/ldd produces "	not a dynamic executable"
[15:45] <yeats> JediMaster: see this: http://askubuntu.com/a/231500 - it's about installing a different package, but it looks relevant
[15:45] <sambagirl> good morning. i was curious whether there is a ubuntu desktop tablet version? the reason i am asking is because microsoft store is opening here a nd they are selling toshiba envoy 2 tablets for 99$ and i would replace widows 8.1 with something i like.
[15:45] <yeats> !touch | sambagirl
[15:46] <k1l> sambagirl: make sure you can replace the windows there at all. some devices have locked bootloaders and cant remove the windows.
[15:46] <G4RC14> Hello
[15:46] <sambagirl> oh i see
[15:47] <sambagirl> ok k1l let me research it first
[15:47] <JediMaster> yeats, yeah I was considering trying libc6:i386, will try now
[15:47] <G4RC14> how do i create my own channel
[15:47] <G4RC14> ??
[15:47] <JediMaster> G4RC14, /join #whatever
[15:48] <BluesKaj_> G4RC14, ask in #freenode
[15:48] <k1l> G4RC14: ask #freenode , they can assist you
[15:48] <JediMaster> oh, are they restricted?
[15:49] <k1l> JediMaster: freenode got regulations on naming etc.
[15:53] <gtrmtx> so im in completely uncharted territory...can someone point me in the right direction for creating a cron task that pulls data from a mysql table and emailing that data to a specific address?
[15:53] <gtrmtx> so im in completely uncharted territory...can someone point me in the right direction for creating a cron task that pulls data from a mysql table and emailing that data to a specific address?
[15:53] <gtrmtx> crap sorry didnt mean to ask twice
[15:54] <G4RC14> freenode wont work, is there any channel as #help
[15:54] <calimero_82> hi guys
[15:54] <Pici> G4RC14: you haven't said anything in #freenode yet.  Try actually asking a question there.
[15:56] <flaiks> allo
[15:56] <calimero_82> Sorry guys, I would like to understand a bit better the speech repository, I know it's better not to add any repository in those pre-installed so as not to mess up the system, now if I will add an addon that contains a repository of xbmc means doing the same thing? thanks
[15:59] <flaiks> any tips for improvingh fonts while browsing the web ?
[15:59] <flaiks> ie. facebook looks like crap
[16:02] <BluesKaj_> flaiks, depends on your browser and gtk font settings mostly
[16:05] <slackss> Hey everybody. Has anyone else had issues with unity-web-apps not working? I hit install in firefox and nothing happens. If I manually install the package it just opens to a blank window.
[16:08] <vito_86> ciao
[16:08] <the8thbit|work> okay so now
[16:08] <the8thbit|work> I'm trying to compile apt from source
[16:08] <the8thbit|work> and when I run make I get this error:
[16:08] <the8thbit|work> checking for curl_easy_init in -lcurl... no
[16:08] <the8thbit|work> configure: error: failed: I need CURL due https support
[16:08] <the8thbit|work> make: *** [build/config.status] Error 1
[16:09] <the8thbit|work> however, which curl gives me /usr/bin/curl
[16:09] <OerHeks> the8thbit|work, why would you compile apt from source?
[16:11] <the8thbit|work> OerHeks: Great question. I work at a company that develops mostly ARM-based single board computers running a custom rolled minimalist gnu/linux distribution and a custom linux kernel. These devices do not have a package management system on them yet, so they are fairly limited. While right now I am compiling apt for x86_64, my goal is to eventually cross compile for arm and scp the binaries to the board I'm playing with
[16:12] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone use multiple x servers with different layouts? i can't seem to get it to work. when I launch a new x server using xinit /usr/bin/openbox -- :1 -layout Gaming  its still using both monitors when it should only be using 1. here's my xorg.conf file: https://bpaste.net/show/5dc50d4e2c83
[16:13] <frankdrey> sorry if this is a stupid question, but does ubuntu 14 come with virtual desktops / spaces? i'm not finding it anywhere
[16:14] <madorn> how does one configure vmware_fusion for parallelization?  attempting vagrant up --parallel but doesn't appear to be working.
[16:14] <ubuntuaddicted> frankdrey, you mean other workspaces or actualy other virtual terminal or virtual displays?
[16:14] <calimero_82> Sorry guys, I would like to understand a bit better the speech repository, I know it's better not to add any repository in those pre-installed so as not to mess up the system, now if I will add an addon that contains a repository of xbmc means doing the same thing? thanks
[16:14] <frankdrey> workspaces
[16:15] <OerHeks> frankdrey, systemsettings > appearance > enable workspaces
[16:15] <ubuntuaddicted> frankdrey, it does but it depends on what desktop manager you're using ie KDE,. XFCE, Gnome, etc etc
[16:15] <frankdrey> ahhh, thanks
[16:16] <tafa2> hi guys
[16:16] <OerHeks> calimero_82, adding a xbmc ppa is the same thing, yes
[16:17] <tafa2> hi could I give a folder and its contents access to 2 groups but only have one group able to read and one able to read and write?
[16:17] <calimero_82> thanks OerHeks
[16:17] <OerHeks> calimero_82, those packages overrule the existing ones, so they won't bite
[16:18] <tytan> do I have to configure the cron-deamon?
[16:19] <Guest47025> how i can empty trash by my terminal
[16:21] <OerHeks> Guest47025, why not use the gui?
[16:21] <OerHeks> Guest47025, With trash-cli installed, you can do trash-empty
[16:21] <Guest47025> tnx 0reHeks
[16:23] <calimero_82> how can i open sfs in ubuntu?
[16:24] <daftykins> calimero_82: a .sfs file? never heard of that
[16:25] <calimero_82> yes daftykins, it's used by puppylinux
[16:25] <daftykins> calimero_82: might be best to ask in a channel for that distro then
[16:25] <daftykins> you can also try running "file" on it to see what it reports
[16:26] <frais404> hallo
[16:28] <dj123> runin Ubuntu 14.04....i js found out that i can run need fo speed in it..this is reali good.
[16:31] <OEP> Does anyone have a clue what "We failed, but the fail whale is dead" from xsession-manager means?
[16:32] <jpds> OEP: Probably best to look at the sauce.
[16:33] <D41LY5H4D0W> hello
[16:34] <OEP> jpds: So I want to use KDE but x-session-manager is linked to gnome-session which does not sound right.
[16:35] <D41LY5H4D0W> how can I make to start a private chat with someone
[16:35] <yeats> !pm | D41LY5H4D0W
[16:35] <jpds> OEP: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7651200
[16:37] <D41LY5H4D0W> ??
[16:38] <arun__> dude, what where the thing I need to bind mount, I lost the connection
[16:39] <daftykins> arun__: can you try rewording that?
[16:40] <calimero_82> bye
[16:40] <arun__> daftykins: How to repair initrd image if its corrupt or boot failure
[16:40] <squinty> D41LY5H4D0W:  if using xchat or hexchat, right click on the person's nick and then select "open dialog window"
[16:40] <daftykins> arun__: boot an older kernel
[16:41] <OEP> jpds: looks like some minimal gnome session stuff got installed and selected as the default window manager
[16:42] <staypanhalfhot> channels list
[16:42] <staypanhalfhot> list
[16:42] <squinty> D41LY5H4D0W:  please keep in mind that pm'ing in this channel (and most others) without asking permission of the person you want to talk to first, is frowned upon.  personally I do not pm.  :)
[16:42] <FightingTheRedmo> I'm sure this question gets thrown around a lot, so I'll only ask for the definitive link. How in the HELL does one setup a dual boot system with Windows 8.1? (UEFI boot)
[16:43] <OerHeks> !uefi
[16:44] <daftykins> FightingTheRedmo: it's really not that involved.
[16:46] <FightingTheRedmo> daftykins - I know.. it's not this that's got me riled up.. but the issues that've led me to needing to install Ubuntu on a laptop I removed it from. Windows, as is expected of it, broke itself after the update to 8.1. My WiFi card isn't really supported (MT7630) by Linux (the OEM released Linux drivers are piss poor). And now I've had to format, back up and install TWICE.
[16:47] <daftykins> FightingTheRedmo: ok, no need to bring unfounded Microsoft hatred here.
[16:47] <flaiks> ah i found the source of every website looking like shit
[16:47] <flaiks> Arial!
[16:48] <daftykins> FightingTheRedmo: and no i have not seen updates kill an install, you might want to try again :)
[16:48] <FightingTheRedmo> daftykins - Sorry :D I don't really hate Microsoft. In any case, I installed 8.1, adn then Lubuntu (without issues). Then ran boot-repair, with the recommended repair. It still won't detect Lubuntu. paste.ubuntu.com/9151500
[16:49] <FightingTheRedmo> daftykins - didn't kill the install... killed the Wifi. Which was the ONLY reason I installed 8.1 at the expense of formatting my disk in the first place.
[16:50] <daftykins> FightingTheRedmo: perhaps the latter wasn't booted in EFI mode?
[16:51] <daftykins> FightingTheRedmo: you probably needed to find newer drivers, but anywho - i can't offer any Windows support in here.
[16:52] <learts> Hi guys! Somebody managed to make pycharm work well with high dpi screens?
[16:52] <FightingTheRedmo> daftykins - I guess. I'll admit I never read up on UEFI. It seems like I'm finally going to be forced to. I'll go check BIOS and configure the thing. I know there's loads of support out there, but thought I'd check here first to find out which guide was considered canon.
[16:53] <ralph> Hey guys. My computer ran out of battery and now I cant get wlan0 up. It was working just fine before. Any advice?
[16:53] <daftykins> FightingTheRedmo: yeah, the above linked guides shows the visible difference between booting legacy and booting EFI. once you boot and install in the same mode for windows + ubuntu, all should be fine.
[16:53] <daftykins> ralph: what've you done since having a low battery...?
[16:54] <FightingTheRedmo> daftykins, OerHeks - Thanks!
[16:54] <ralph> daftykins: plugged the computer in and started it up
[16:54] <daftykins> ralph: did it maybe sleep/hibernate ? shutdown, power off... remove battery + mains... replug, boot and see what's up
[16:55] <ralph> daftykins: I think it just died. Nothing else. I think I disabled hibernate
[16:56] <daftykins> ralph: do the above anyway. if the interface is totally gone, maybe it's not reported from 'lspci' anymore? is there maybe an Fn+Function key combo to turn wireless on?
[16:56] <ralph> daftykins: it's an asus duo 11. I have restarted and powered off. Ill try to put it in hibernation
[16:57] <daftykins> no, avoid hibernate - haha
[16:57] <ralph> oh
[16:57] <ralph> I just did it
[16:57] <ralph> oh well
[16:57] <daftykins> ;/
[16:57] <ralph> You said, "do the above anyway"
[16:57] <dcmwai> hello all
[16:57] <dcmwai> anyone install openproject on ubuntu 14.04 before?
[16:57] <karab44> hello
[16:58] <karab44> why pulseaudio is installed with ubuntu? What is the purpose of that?
[16:58] <daftykins> ralph: i asked if it might have hibernated. i at no point suggested *to* hibernate :)
[16:58] <ralph> daftykins: I tried to  run ifconfig wlan0 up and I get "no such device"
[16:58] <ralph> ah
[16:58] <dcmwai> I try to follot this.. https://www.openproject.org/download/packaged-installation/ and it still gail
[16:58] <daftykins> yeah that's not a valid command when you don't have a device or interface
[16:58] <K350> what's preferable - "useradd" or "adduser" ?
[16:58] <dcmwai> https://packager.io/gh/opf/openproject/install?bid=449#ubuntu-14-04-openproject
[16:58] <daftykins> K350: 'what works'
[16:58] <ralph> daftykins: how do I make the interface?
[16:59] <daftykins> ralph: i have stated many things such as checking 'lspci' for the device which i've yet to see feedback on
[16:59] <ralph> daftykins: how do I check lspci
[16:59] <daftykins> it's a terminal command
[16:59] <ralph> okay
[16:59] <ralph> I ran it
[16:59] <ralph> Uhm, what specifically do you want from this
[16:59] <ralph> ?
[17:00] <mmiller13> Does anyone knows where I adjust my firewall settings???
[17:00] <qstrahl> Is there a signal or something I can have my shell script emit to tell gnome-terminal to change cursor shape? I know I can use gconftool but I am trying to make it work over SSH tunnel
[17:00] <daftykins> ralph: no, *you* want to see if your wireless device is listed there :)
[17:00] <ralph> I am on a different computer so I'll have to type all of this out
[17:00] <therue> browsers using a lot of CPU%.. is this pretty normal in linux?
[17:00] <daftykins> no i don't want to know it
[17:00] <flaiks> therue, chrome does in any OS
[17:00] <ralph> daftykins: Is  it called network controller?
[17:00] <flaiks> therue, whenever I travel im forced to use safari on my macbook or my battery lasts about 2 h ours
[17:00] <nedal> hi again, I asked for a program that can stimulate an electric circuit an show the diagrams on screen like corocodil clips on windows ? does such program exist on linux ?
[17:01] <daftykins> ralph: it may even have wireless, atheros, broadcom, realtek in the name.
[17:01] <ralph> daftykins: is it called ethernet controller? It says Realtek semiconductor Co., etc..
[17:02] <therue>  i see
[17:02] <daftykins> that might be a wired interface so i can't be sure.
[17:02] <therue> another question i have is.... i have a nice graphic card: nvidia geforce gtx 780
[17:02] <OerHeks> nedal, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEngineering#Electronics
[17:02] <sacarlson1> nedal: did you look at spice
[17:02] <therue> graphics look awesome in windows
[17:02] <OerHeks> and spice indeed
[17:03] <therue> but with the default nvidia driver from linux ... videos/images they just dont look at clear as they do in windows
[17:03] <therue> videos come out little grainy
[17:03] <therue> colors not as vibrant, etc
[17:03] <therue> is this normal for linux?
[17:03] <daftykins> therue: please try and combine your queries into a single line so anyone helping doesn't have to look around for the full conversation.
[17:03] <therue> very sorry daftykins, wont happen again :)
[17:03] <daftykins> it's also very spammy
[17:03] <squinty> ralph:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[17:03] <ralph> thanks squint
[17:04] <daftykins> therue: are you using nouveau or nvidia proprietary? (click the settings cog on the launcher on the left, go to software and sources, then the 'additional drivers/hardware' tab
[17:04] <Mendax> why does it seem like I have been banned from ##chat, when I haven't doen anything wrong
[17:04] <Mendax> sounds like adriver issue
[17:04] <daftykins> Mendax: nobody here cares about that channel. go ask in #freenode
[17:04] <Mendax> what is the problem
[17:05] <therue> i picked the nvidia proprietary.. the one that says recommended
[17:05] <Mendax> not getting any response at the bootloader ARE YOU
[17:05] <therue> i belive it's nvidia 331
[17:05] <therue> but that's not the latest driver though.. the latest is 340.58
[17:05] <flaiks> for some reason
[17:05] <daftykins> Mendax: are you a bot?
[17:05] <flaiks> nautilus wont let me add any folders to the left pane
[17:05] <Mendax> def not
[17:05] <Mendax> yiou know that
[17:05] <daftykins> Mendax: please leave then, unless you have an ubuntu support query.
[17:06] <Mendax> I can help you support your device
[17:07] <karab44> guys why do I need pulseaudio?
[17:07] <therue> so ya daftykins, any ideas? :D
[17:07] <daftykins> karab44: unless it's taking your family hostage, i would just accept it and use the computer.
[17:07] <daftykins> therue: nope
[17:08] <daftykins> therue: i don't really know how you could quantify this claim of 'Windows looking better'
[17:08] <karab44> daftykins: it only causes problems
[17:08] <ralph> I have no clue what I'm doing with the wireless...can someone walk me through this?
[17:09] <therue> i linux the videos just come out more grainy
[17:09] <nedal> OerHeks: I was looking for something simplier, like basic things
[17:09] <therue> it's the same for images and videos.. any graphics really, even my desktop dont look as bright/clear
[17:09] <therue> but video is most noticeable, 'cuz the grainy images is very noticeable
[17:10] <nedal> scarlson1: I don't get what you said, if it's a linux thing ... well I m a new user of it
[17:11] <sacarlson1> nedal: spice is an electronics simulator
[17:11] <sacarlson1> nedal: you can simulate simple circuits or very complex
[17:11] <azaskun> there is a similar program that dragon naturallyspeaking for ubuntu?
[17:11] <daftykins> ralph: does that thing have a wired network port that you can plug into your router directly with?
[17:12] <Mendax> dows any of you actually use ubuntu
[17:12] <Mendax> ?
[17:12] <ralph> daftykins: yes, upstairs. I wont be able to see what you say. so I'll have to run back and forth lol
[17:12] <yeats> therue: you *can* install the latest nvidia driver from nvidia's site, but you'll have to re-install it after every kernel upgrade (or set up dkms or the like)
[17:12] <CraigyDavi> I'm trying to get the user "craig" to be able to use all commands without a password or without using sudo - pretty much like a root account. I have added the line "craig   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" to /ect/sudoers but nothing seems to happen, anyone know why?
[17:12] <daftykins> ralph: but then you'd be online from the device right... via freenode webchat?
[17:13] <ralph> daftykins: possibly
[17:13] <yeats> therue: I've also seen success with older versions of the driver depending on the age of the card
[17:13] <ralph> daftykins: Ill give it a shot
[17:13] <ralph> hold o
[17:13] <ralph> n
[17:13] <nedal> Scarlson1: is it like oregano ?
[17:13] <OerHeks> Mendax, yes, do you have a support question?
[17:14] <felon> high
[17:14] <ralph1> daftykins: I'm here
[17:15] <daftykins> ralph1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:15] <daftykins> ralph1: lspci | pastebinit
[17:15] <ash`> CraigyDavi: impossible
[17:16] <ash`> CraigyDavi: the sudoers is coupled with sudo
[17:16] <squinty> nedal:  maybe check at http://www.linuxalt.com/   or similar
[17:16] <OerHeks> ash` +1
[17:16] <ralph1> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9152350/
[17:16] <sacarlson1> nedal: http://easy-spice.sourceforge.net/documentation.html
[17:16] <daftykins> ralph1: realtek is your wired, intel 6235 is your wireless.
[17:16] <daftykins> ralph1: ifconfig -a | pastebinit
[17:17] <ralph1> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9152378/
[17:17] <OerHeks> CraigyDavi, if you want the whole terminal session to be root, use: sudo -i
[17:17] <OerHeks> CraigyDavi, but carefull, you might mess up things
[17:17] <CraigyDavi> ash`, ah I see
[17:18] <sacarlson1> nedal: yes looks like oregano also interfaces to ng-spice  maybe it's better I'm not sure
[17:18] <daftykins> ralph1: does "rfkill list all" show some output? if so, run "rfkill list all | pastebinit"
[17:18] <CraigyDavi> OerHeks, Thanks I'll try be careful :)
[17:18] <OerHeks> * don't run gui app as root
[17:18] <ralph1> daftykins: no
[17:18] <daftykins> ralph1: what version are you on? "cat /etc/issue"
[17:19] <ralph1> daftykins: ubuntu 14.04
[17:19] <ralph1> LTS
[17:19] <daftykins> ralph1: run a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and see if any packages want to be installed
[17:19] <ralph1> daftykins: they do
[17:19] <ralph1> install?
[17:19] <nedal> Scarlson; Thanks . You helped a lot, I found what I was looking for
[17:19] <daftykins> ralph1: yep
[17:19] <ubuntuaddicted> how would I set it up IF i wanted a certain x server configuration if i use lightdm.  i can choose a different session but that doesn't change what the x server does.
[17:20] <ralph1> daftykins: almost done
[17:21] <ubuntuaddicted> basically i want it so that if i choose an openbox session i want 2 different X servers to run. 1 on 1 monitor and the other on the other monitor
[17:21] <daftykins> ubuntuaddicted: sounnds like you want to make life unreasonably difficult for yourself
[17:22] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, that's what I do. :)  i need 2 X servers running though.
[17:22] <daftykins> why?
[17:22] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, to eliminate screen tearing on my second monitor (my gaming monitor)
[17:23] <daftykins> lol
[17:23] <daftykins> that's a ridiculous approach
[17:23] <ralph1> daftykins: it's done
[17:23] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, it's a limitation of X
[17:23] <daftykins> ralph1: reboot
[17:23] <ralph1> bbl
[17:24] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, i've spent that last 3 days attempting to get rid of the tearing and finally found out that X can only sync to 1 display, not both.  so 1 screen will be tear free because X can sync to that display BUT the other display "can" have tearing because X isnt' sync'ing to it's refresh rate
[17:24] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, and yes I've tried compton and kwin (compositors)  to get rid of the tearing
[17:25] <daftykins> different screen types is it?
[17:26] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, no, they're both 1920x1080 monitors. both have 60Hz refresh rates, they're just not the same exact model
[17:26] <daftykins> ah well good luck with that.
[17:26] <ubuntuaddicted> so back to my original question, how can I make x server launch 1 server on 1 monitor and another server on another monitor?
[17:27] <timvisher-xubunt> anyone know how to view past notifications in xubuntu?
[17:27] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: why is it that I have two monitors on this system and they seem to  work ok together?
[17:27] <timvisher-xubunt> dropbox is yelling at me with a fairly lengthy command and i'd rather just copy and paste it rather than trying to remember it or google it
[17:27] <ubuntuaddicted> timvisher-xubunt, you could try /var/log/messages
[17:27] <ralph> daftykins: It hung on boot and then loaded me into busybox
[17:27] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, what's desktop manager do you use?  also, you game? if so, what games?
[17:28] <timvisher-xubunt> ubuntuaddicted: sadly, that file doesn't exist?
[17:28] <daftykins> ralph: ooh-err, tried holding left shift on boot?
[17:28] <Mendax> Ubuntu is spyware
[17:28] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: no I don't game.  how can I find out what manager I'm running?
[17:28] <ubuntuaddicted> timvisher-xubunt, i'm not sure what notification system it's from. you could check syslog
[17:28] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, do you run Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu or which distro
[17:29] <ralph> daftykins: what happened to the comp?
[17:29] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: I run mate
[17:29] <timvisher-xubunt> yep. it's in syslog :)
[17:29] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, try to play this in fullscreen on each of your monitors and tell me if you get screen tearing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xkNy9gfKOg
[17:29] <daftykins> ralph: it's too far away for me to read its' mind right now, sadly
[17:30] <ralph> daftykins: I mean, what do you think happened?
[17:30] <timvisher-xubunt> now anyone mind telling me if this looks safe? `echo fs.inotify.max_user_watches=100000 | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf; sudo sysctl -p`
[17:30] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, mate uses gnome
[17:30] <daftykins> ralph: no idea.
[17:30] <ubuntuaddicted> timvisher-xubunt, there ya go. :)
[17:30] <ralph> shit
[17:30] <ralph> I hope I haven't lost all of my school work
[17:30] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: I see mdm in ps -A  is that the screen manager?
[17:30] <daftykins> ralph: doubt it. boot a USB flash drive of 14.04.1 and backup your data.
[17:31] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, that's your login manager i believe
[17:31] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, i said, you're using gnome. i'm not sure what compositor gnome has in by default if any at all.  what graphics card/driver do you use?
[17:32] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: yes it plays ok but has some jumpy ness maybe that's what you mean by tearing?
[17:32] <timvisher-xubunt> meh. yolo...
[17:33] <ralph> daftykins: hard disk is encrypted, no key either. Also, I just tried to boot with noapci so I could see whats going on
[17:33] <ralph> it's hanging when after it checks my rear webcam
[17:33] <daftykins> ralph: what about just picking an older kernel
[17:33] <daftykins> ralph: ugh at encryption.
[17:33] <ralph> yeah
[17:33] <daftykins> why don't you have the key written down?
[17:33] <ralph> Ive had my comp stolen before
[17:33] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: grafics just come out of the intel i5
[17:33] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, screen tearing is a horizontal line because 2 images from the video buffer are shown on the screen at the same because the X server isn't sync'd to that monitors refresh rate
[17:34] <ralph> daftykins: obviously because I'm dumb
[17:34] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing
[17:35] <assemblyx> is it possible to have a vpn connection go through my proxy server?
[17:35] <daftykins> ralph: so, tried an older kernel? you can do it... i believe in you...
[17:35] <squinty> heh
[17:35] <ralph> daftykins: how?
[17:35] <ralph> with advanced?
[17:35] <daftykins> ralph: holding left shift at boot to get GRUB
[17:35] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: ya it does have that like steps about or 4 or more down the screen
[17:35] <ralph> okay
[17:35] <ralph> well
[17:35] <ralph> good start
[17:35] <ralph> i got to the password login
[17:35] <assemblyx> is it possible to have a vpn connection run through my proxy server?
[17:36] <ralph> assemblyx: yes
[17:36] <ralph> daftykins: and the wifi is working
[17:36] <daftykins> assemblyx: HTTP proxy? they're incompatible things
[17:36] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: and this is due to me having two monitors?
[17:36] <ralph> assemblyx: you have to use a socks proxy
[17:36] <ralph> daftykins: that was a close one
[17:36] <ralph> I was sweating bullets
[17:37] <ralph> daftykins: so, what now?
[17:37] <daftykins> ralph: so, know what you're gonna do now? 1) backup data 2) write down that key
[17:37] <ralph> daftykins: ahhhhaha
[17:37] <ralph> Of course that
[17:37] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, sort of yes
[17:37] <ralph> But I mean, is this issue permanent now?
[17:37] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, it's a very complicated mess to explain. it has to do with how the video is displayed on the screen.
[17:37] <daftykins> ralph: well i have a feeling an older kernel is working with the wireless, maybe the update earlier (and even before that) a newer kernel was on that isn't working. hard to say.
[17:38] <ralph> daftykins: any way to set my comp to use this kernel instead of the newer one?
[17:38] <safinaskar> what is ubuntu analogue of http.debian.net?
[17:38] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: in short it's due to my not so good graphics card
[17:38] <daftykins> ralph: yeah, remove the newer
[17:38] <safinaskar> i. e. i want service which automatically redirect me to nearest ubuntu mirror
[17:38] <ralph> daftykins: how do I do that?
[17:38] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, no
[17:38] <daftykins> safinaskar: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[17:39] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, has nothing to do with the quality of the graphics card.  it has to do with the display server, X server
[17:39] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: I think I can unplug one monitor and still see the same thing to verify
[17:39] <daftykins> safinaskar: if you're using desktop, there's a feature in the settings to select the best mirror.
[17:39] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: oh so this can be fixed with software cool
[17:39] <daftykins> ralph: identify it, then remove linux-image-3.x.x-blah
[17:40] <ralph> thanks
[17:41] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, if you switch to only 1 monitor and still see screen tearing there's things you can do to correct this behavior and 1 easy way to sync to vblank, setting vsync. that's basically telling the X server to sync to the monitors refresh rate
[17:41] <safinaskar> daftykins: thanks. but i still need some autoredirector
[17:42] <daftykins> safinaskar: what? no you just configure the different mirrors...
[17:42] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: and that's done in xorg.conf some place?
[17:43] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, im not sure how to turn on vsync when using an intel gpu/drivers
[17:43] <safinaskar> daftykins: i wrote universal tool for generating sources.list.   this tool just writes http.debian.net (redirector service) for debian.   i need same for ubuntu
[17:44] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: well it's not seen in my gui for monitor settings so I guess I'll just live with it
[17:44] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, yeah, i'm having troubles of my own eleminating screen tearing with a GTX 760 so I can't help you sorry
[17:45] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: that's ok, it doesn't bother me,  I've never really noticed it till now looking for it
[17:45] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, i understand. i hate screen tearing while i'm gaming. very annoying
[17:46] <merpnderp> How would I find out if Unubtu runs on these awesome super cheap laptops? http://store.hp.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/us/en/mdp/Laptops/hp-stream-notebook-13-135509--1
[17:47] <servernode> How to set http header to show public address instead of local ip?
[17:48] <sacarlson1> safinaskar: I thought they had something like that, that would scan to find the best mirror then set it for you
[17:48] <ubuntuaddicted> merpnderp, it looks like they're similar to chromebooks. it uses the cloud
[17:48] <xyphus> i have some queries
[17:48] <xyphus> is anyone online??
[17:48] <ubuntuaddicted> yes
[17:48] <kyle_Austin> Yeah...
[17:49] <ubuntuaddicted> merpnderp, so what i'm saying is look into how to install ubuntu on a chromebook and maybe, just maybe it's similar to how you would install ubuntu on those laptops you linked ot
[17:50] <ubuntuaddicted> merpnderp, here ya go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DWIJFtuY1A
[17:51] <merpnderp> ubuntuaddicted: I'm thinking I need to look at which device drivers are required and if Ubuntu supports them. Wish HP just sold them with Ubuntu already installed.
[17:51] <xyphus> i have some problems with backbox linux.
[17:51] <ubuntuaddicted> merpnderp, watch that video and it should fill you in
[17:53] <merpnderp> ubuntuaddicted: thanks :)
[17:56] <kingwill101> hi everytime i use apt i get this error: Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildSignaled: Process org.freedesktop.PackageKit received signal 11   any suggestions???
[18:00] <servernode> How to set http header to show public address instead of local ip? Anyone?
[18:01] <ubuntuaddicted> is anyone familiar with how to get 2 x servers to start IF i choose a certain session at the lightdm login screen?
[18:04] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: nvidia-settings can give you a xorg.conf configured for two separate X servers running at once
[18:04] <sacarlson1> servernode: I think there is a dhcp server method that can provide local names on the net, not sure how it works
[18:05] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, it's not working for whatever reason. and when I view ps aux | grep X it only shows 1 x server running
[18:05] <sacarlson1> servernode: oh https header to display it on a website?  I'll have to look
[18:05] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: well how'd you configure it?
[18:05] <servernode> sacarlson1: Thx
[18:06] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, i used nvidia-settings to put Xscreen0 on 1 monitor and Xscreen1 on another monitor. saved it to xorg.conf and rebooted and it didn't work
[18:07] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, here's a screenshot http://gyazo.com/a005c91d450d3fca918bca5d03551746  and here's my xorg.conf  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9153467/
[18:09] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, also, i don't believe nvidia-settings is setting up the second x server to run on a different virtual terminal, for example tty8.  as I can see by ps aux | grep X there's only 1 x server running
[18:11] <CarlFK> apt-get source gstreamer1.0-plugins-base... what do I do to build that? (before I go hacking the change i want to make)
[18:11] <teward> CarlFK: is there something wrong with just installing that?
[18:11] <teward> instead of building?
[18:11] <CarlFK> teward: it doesn't have my mod ;)
[18:11] <DeaDSouL> Hi, if a directory's name starts with '-' (dash)... how can I rename it from terminal.. I tried mv.. but it doesn't work... it thinks the dash is a part of the command option
[18:12] <servernode> sacarlson1: I don't know if i expressed myself good enough, but my problem lies in that when I'm trying to reach my website from outside my local network it does not work because the server insists on identifying with it's local ip address instead of "plantbaserat.ddns.net".
[18:12] <CarlFK> i'm assuming all apt-get source gives me something that has a well defined build process, like whatever lp does when you upload to a PPA
[18:13] <teward> CarlFK: it downloads the source package, yes.  It's up to you to modify it according to what you need
[18:14] <CarlFK> teward: before i modify, I wanted to make sure I can build it as is
[18:14] <teward> CarlFK: ah, well, you'd need pbuilder or such to build the actual package
[18:14] <sacarlson1> servernode: I think I understand you want a website (local?) to see not only the ip address but the host name of the clients computer that accessing the website on a local net
[18:14] <teward> CarlFK: but otherwise you could upload to a PPA - if it's the `apt-get source` package then it should autobuild, but you'll need pbuilder or sbuild set up and configured to build locally
[18:16] <trism> CarlFK: once you have run: apt-get build-dep package-name; you can generally build it with: dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -b; without needed to set up pbuilder (assuming you have dpkg-dev and fakeroot installed)
[18:16] <sacarlson1> servernode: oh then I was wrong you just need to change the servers hostname
[18:16] <CarlFK> trism: thanks.  I figured there was something like that
[18:17] <CarlFK> trism: and thank you for picking up the licked cookie ;)
[18:18] <servernode> got disconnected
[18:19] <sacarlson1> servernode: oh maybe you just need to setup port forwarding on your router to point to the server?
[18:19] <servernode> sacarlson1: done
[18:19] <sacarlson1> servernode: so that didn't work?
[18:20] <servernode> Port forwarding worked in that matter that the browser get forwarded to 192.168.1.100 (server on lan)
[18:20] <sacarlson1> servernode: then you also need to setup the virtual settings in apache if that's what your using
[18:20] <Guest13632> hi all i did a fresh install xubuntu and installed all updates but now on youtube cant see the play/pause button  or the volume button its totally black how can that be?
[18:21] <servernode> sacarlson1: I'm not familiar with virtual settings
[18:21] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, On firefox?
[18:21] <sacarlson1> servernode: are you using apache?
[18:21] <servernode> sacarlson1: Yes
[18:21] <servernode> sacarlson1: LAMP
[18:22] <sacarlson1> servernode: so it works from outside but not from local?
[18:22] <servernode> sacarlson1: And I have a Prestashop (ecommerce) setup
[18:23] <servernode> sacarlson1: I can visit the website from another computer within the LAN
[18:23] <sacarlson1> servernode: or it works on local but not from outside,  or never works when you use your dns name?
[18:23] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: yes it is on firefox and when i disable flash the videos keep playing and i dont think its something with adblock plus i really dont know
[18:24] <sacarlson1> servernode: so by name example.com you can reach your server on lan?
[18:24] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, Start FF without the addons running
[18:24] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: i will try it 1 sec
[18:24] <servernode> sacarlson1: And when I visit the website from my dns-name (plantbaserat.ddns.net) the url in my browser changes to 192.168.1.100 and the page doesn't load
[18:24] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, It's in the help tab in FF.
[18:25] <Guest13632> yes i found it
[18:25] <Guest13632> not its working
[18:25] <Guest13632> now its working
[18:25] <servernode> sacarlson1: from a local computer i can reach if I type 192.168.1.100 in the browser
[18:25] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, Be sure to preference with nicks of the one your addressing when here.
[18:26] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: its working how can i now look for the problem? i have adblock plus with all filters and betterprivacy  do u think it can be one of this two things?
[18:26] <jak3000> hi all
[18:26] <jak3000> i do this: ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.162/24 up  and then:  route add default gw 192.168.0.254   how to make this changes permanently (when i rebooth the server, again need type these 2 commands) thanks
[18:27] <servernode> sacarlson1: seems like the web-server responds like if it "is" it's local ip
[18:27] <jak3000> for enable the network
[18:27] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, Probably, I would remove one at a time until you find the culprit, there is a #firefox channel as well if needed.
[18:27] <servernode> sacarlson1: wich works on lan
[18:27] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: thanks very much for your help your the best man !!!!
[18:27] <sacarlson1> servernode: I just went to that site and see the same thing
[18:28] <servernode> sacarlson1: ;)
[18:28] <sacarlson1> servernode: but the dig plantbaserat.ddns.net  returns what looks like valid wan address
[18:28] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, No problem.
[18:28] <sacarlson1> servernode: so I should assume you have the apache configs not setup correctly
[18:29] <jak3000> sacarlson1 any advice for me?
[18:29] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: i already found the problem it was user agent overrider this addon gives a bug on youtube  when activated also the youtube logo dissaperes but now i know the problem
[18:30] <sacarlson1> servernode: it's like it has some proxy thing setup?
[18:30] <servernode> sacarlson1: I have by trial and fail come this far without knowing anything at all following lots and lots of guides, but with this I havent even been sure on what to search for
[18:30] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, Ah, yes that addon works best when a website wants like IE 8 or before.
[18:30] <servernode> sacarlson1: No proxy set up what I know of
[18:30] <servernode> sacarlson1: apache configs could be it
[18:31] <sacarlson1> servernode: can you look in /var/log/apache  and see if it does see the trafic?
[18:31] <sacarlson1> servernode: I'm not even totaly sure it makes it to the correct server
[18:32] <Guest13632> bubbasaurres: last question maybe u know a solution for this to when i disable flash the youtube is still playing the movies instead asking to activate flash why is that? (is disable flash for supercookies)
[18:32] <sacarlson1> servernode: do you have your server setup as static?
[18:32] <sacarlson1> static ip
[18:32] <servernode> sacarlson1: Yes, static
[18:32] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, I would use noscript to filter flash, not sure how you turning it off.
[18:33] <bubbasaures> you're*
[18:33] <sacarlson1> jak3000: you should be able to set that up in /etc/networks/interfaces
[18:33] <servernode> sacarlson1: wrote privately
[18:33] <cholcobo[]> so i have ubuntu on virtualbox but it won't go full screen
[18:33] <cholcobo[]> it's stuck on 640x480
[18:33] <cholcobo[]> anybody know what to do?
[18:33] <jak3000> ok, tanks sacarlson1
[18:33] <jak3000> testing
[18:34] <tigerren> hello,everybody
[18:34] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: if there are supercookies on my pc they can reveal my real ip if i use vpn but how can i track down the supercookies? i already use betterprivacy but i heard some supercookies  cant be deleted
[18:34] <jak3000> sacarlson1 worked thanks
[18:34] <jak3000> how to upgrade my pakages for install ubuntu-server the lastest version?
[18:34] <cholcobo[]> Guest13632, the best option
[18:34] <cholcobo[]> is to refrain from using computers
[18:34] <cholcobo[]> Guest13632, that is the only way
[18:34] <k1l> cholcobo[]: install guest-additions in the vbox guest
[18:34] <cholcobo[]> get off the internet
[18:35] <cholcobo[]> i mean, nobody likes you anyway so that's reason enough
[18:35] <Guest13632> cholcobo[]: i dont understand it? what is the best option?
[18:35] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, Not an area I have messed with or even care about is all, hiding a IP I only do here.
[18:36] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: oke thanks anyway have a nice day !
[18:36] <flaiks> its actually mind blowing how much faster 14.04 is than osx yosemite
[18:36] <bubbasaures> you to
[18:37] <squinty> Guest13632:  might want to google  "bleachbit super cookies"   bleachbit is available via the standard repo's
[18:37] <cholcobo[]> guest13632 the CIA is listening to everything you say right now
[18:38] <thexder1> Hello, does anyone know what cifs_mount return code -115 means?
[18:38] <k1l> Guest13632: youtube sues html5, too
[18:38] <Guest13632> squinty: i once used bleachbit and it f*cked my pc when i used wipe free space but i will take a look at it
[18:38] <k1l> *uses
[18:38] <Guest13632> k1l:ahh thanks
[18:39] <reisio> thexder1: the source code knows
[18:39] <Guest13632> cholcobo[]: the cia can listen what they want  and yes i know they can track everybody down with browser fingerprint
[18:39] <l0rdn1x> lmao
[18:39] <thexder1> reisio, I was hoping to not have to go through the source code to find out.
[18:39] <squinty> Guest13632:  please don't respond to obvious trolls
[18:40] <Guest13632> squinty: haha ok i knew it was a troll
[18:47] <posthuman> im running ubuntu 12.04 lts with qemu/kvm. i ve installed 8 windows server 2012 VMs and noticed that %CPU (looking at"top") is about 30-60% for each PID related to qemu-system-x86. While %Cpu(s) is around 19,4 be   in total usage. Can u please explain what is happening here ?
[18:48] <reisio> posthuman: it seems as though you're using your computer
[18:48] <D41LY5H4D0W> Hello
[18:49] <reisio> 'lo dshadow
[18:49] <BanHammor> Hi.
[18:51] <posthuman> reisio:  why does it sometimes show about 104% CPU usage on some hosts while the average CPU(s) usage is about 20% ?
[18:51] <posthuman> *hosts = VMs
[18:51] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know how to launch 2 xservers on 2 different monitors? and be able to use the same mouse/keyboard between them>
[18:52] <bekks> The cpu usage inside a vm is irrelevant, actually.
[18:52] <bekks> You have to measure the cpu consumption of the vm on the host, to get comparable results.
[18:54] <posthuman> thank u bekks for your answer.  I am not talking about the cpu usage inside a vm  but what  top  shows for each  qemu-system-x86  running on my kvm host
[18:56] <posthuman> so there are  eight  qemu-system-x86 PIDs running each 70% CPU usage within   top  but the average %CPU(s) at the headlines of top usage is round about 10%-20%.
[18:59] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: I can run two totaly different computers with 2 servers with the same mouse and keyboard and 2 monitors using synergy
[18:59] <reisio> posthuman: so what's the problem?
[19:00] <reisio> sacarlson1: he's talking about a single box
[19:00] <reisio> and won't listen to advice given
[19:00] <sacarlson1> reisio: I've also used it on a single box with virtualbox
[19:00] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: http://synergy-project.org/
[19:00] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, im aware of that. that's not what I want. thanks though
[19:01] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, i use synergy to manage my server. :)
[19:01] <posthuman> reisio:  i dont get  how  8x 70% usage  equal  20% total CPU usage. Im sure its just me beeing stupid but might u just explain it to me :)
[19:01] <bekks> There is no need for synergy in conjunction with vbox, since vbox supports mouse/keyboard integration. :)
[19:01] <reisio> sacarlson1: still two :p
[19:01] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: ya I can even control my android phone with it too ha ha
[19:01] <reisio> posthuman: what do you get if you understand it?
[19:02] <sacarlson1> bekks: but if you want to experiment with synergy and you only have one computer (like me)  it can be done
[19:02] <bekks> sacarlson1: I know it can be done - but I dont see a practical reason for it :)
[19:02] <bekks> sacarlson1: besides "curiousity" :)
[19:03] <reisio> posthuman: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1185981#p23452473
[19:03] <reisio> moreover: you gain nothing by answering the question
[19:04] <flaiks> is it possible to show the menus in unity by default ?
[19:06] <reisio> flaiks: something like http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html
[19:07] <k1l> flaiks: press super+a
[19:08] <fmoo> Is there best practices for bug reporting (e.g., re-testing on a clean profile?) I can find docs on?
[19:09] <fmoo> I've got some clowny stuff happening with the vpn editing in network manager since updating to 14.10
[19:09] <flaiks> reisio, nah, i want to show all the time instead of only showing when you hover over lol
[19:09] <posthuman> reisio: thank u very much :) i guess i now know where to start
[19:15] <D41LY5H4D0W> hello
[19:16] <D41LY5H4D0W> do anybody knows how can i torify my chat
[19:16] <D41LY5H4D0W> ??
[19:16] <reisio> torify mychat
[19:16] <D41LY5H4D0W> xchat!!
[19:17] <l0rdn1x> D41LY5H4D0W, just use ssl to connect to IRC, tor is blocked by IRC servers.
[19:17] <Moter8> Hey, just wanted to ask if installing ubuntu through Wubi is still recommended?
[19:17] <llutz> D41LY5H4D0W: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorifyHOWTO/XChat
[19:17] <Moter8> I'm on a win8.1 x64 machine.
[19:19] <D41LY5H4D0W> lordnlx how i do that
[19:20] <Moter8> D41LY5H4D0W, http://i.imgur.com/KE8VTt2.png
[19:20] <Moter8> depends on your client
[19:20] <DJones> D41LY5H4D0W: It might be best if you join #freenode and ask about using tor for freenode irc
[19:21] <Moter8> he will get told to google
[19:21] <D41LY5H4D0W> thanks
[19:22] <D41LY5H4D0W> ok, thanks
[19:22] <DJones> D41LY5H4D0W: Just thinking that thats the main support channel for the freenode irc network, I'd ignore what motor8 said, sounds like made upinfo
[19:23] <flaiks> there we go
[19:23] <flaiks> screw xchat
[19:23] <flaiks> on that weechat.
[19:23] <Silenced> what the best application for IRC ?
[19:23] <flaiks> Silenced: irssi or weechat
[19:23] <flaiks> Xchat feels old
[19:23] <SpaghettiCat> BitchX
[19:24] <Silenced> Thunderbird ?
[19:24] <SpaghettiCat> pidgin
[19:24] <Silenced> Isn't it good ?
[19:24] <DJones> Silenced: There isn't really a best app for anything, its what suits you best, I use irssi running on a server
[19:24] <dorkusmaximus> ircII-EPIC
[19:25] <Silenced> Djones: Thanks man !!
[19:25] <neurosis-> hexchat is nice
[19:25] <DJones> Silenced: But there's a big learning curve because its command line based rather than a GUI
[19:26] <Silenced> Djones: U means irssi ?
[19:26] <DJones> Silenced: Yes
[19:26] <bekks> Silenced: Most likely, an IRC application suits best for IRC. Thunderbird is a mail client, pidgin is an instant messenger, hexchat, weechat, irssi, etc. are IRC applications.
[19:26] <Silenced> Djones: Thanks buddy , I love command line
[19:27] <sharkasdf> Trying to install ubuntu from usb, but I dont have install from usb on my boot order. I just have hard drive, floppy diskette drive, atapi cd rom drive and network adaptor. Whcih one would it be?
[19:27] <Raven67854> sharkasdf, Some USB devices can show up as a HD.
[19:27] <bekks> sharkasdf: Noone of the named. Your computer has to be able to boot from USB.
[19:27] <sharkasdf> its 10 years old
[19:28] <Raven67854> Probably can't boot to usb
[19:28] <bekks> sharkasdf: Then it wont boot from USB at all, most likely.
[19:28] <Silenced> My 20 year Old computer has USB bootable
[19:28] <bekks> Silenced: 20 years ago, there was no USB. Move on please :)
[19:28] <bubbasaures> sharkasdf, That old, check the minimal ubuntu needed, there are lighter setups.
[19:28] <neurosis-> Check your BIOS
[19:29] <BanHammor> Silenced: you are a wizard, considering USB was started in...1995?
[19:29] <sharkasdf> Like Linuxmint
[19:29] <sharkasdf> ?
[19:29] <bekks> BanHammor: In 1996. :)
[19:29] <bubbasaures> sharkasdf, Like lubuntu
[19:29] <ianorlin> that is 18 years old
[19:29] <bprompt> sharkasdf:      if you put in the usb stick before booting up and go into setup/bios screen, does it show the usb stick as a boot choice?   some older machines would show it if plugged in at boot in setup/bios and you can pick it from there
[19:29] <bekks> sharkasdf: Linux Mint isnt Ubuntu minimal.
[19:30] <Silenced> 10 years OLD :P I m sorry :P
[19:30] <sharkasdf> Ok. Thank you for your help. I found it in the BIOS. The hard drive had a + next to it that allowed me to expand it and see the usb and hard drive. I've never seen that before
[19:30] <sharkasdf> Someone stole my last one. This one will have to do
[19:30] <Silenced> bekks: It has pentium III running in it
[19:31] <ianorlin> I would definetly try lubuntu or something lighter
[19:31] <daftykins> Pentium III? bury it.
[19:31] <flaiks> daftykins: agreed
[19:32] <sharkasdf> I need something right now. I have LinuxMint 17 and Ubuntu 14.04. Which would be lighter do you know?
[19:32] <ikonia> neither
[19:32] <flaiks> sharkasdf: is it running on a pentium 3? I would go with neither, I would do lubuntu
[19:32] <neurosis-> xubuntu is that light
[19:32] <flaiks> sharkasdf: mint uses cinnamon, which is still not 'light'
[19:33] <bprompt> sharkasdf:     how much ram do you have?   1gb?  ddr1? ddr2? ddr3?   what cpu speed?   what would "lighter" stand for ?
[19:33] <sharkasdf> 1gb ddr 1. Its an AMD hold on let me check the model
[19:33] <flaiks> sharkasdf: back in the day on a p4 i would just run arch and something super light(flux, openbox, dwm)
[19:33] <bprompt> hmm
[19:33] <Silenced> Essentials that a Ubuntu user must know ?
[19:34] <ikonia> Silenced: https://help.ubuntu.com
[19:34] <bprompt> sharkasdf:    ddr1..... single core 1.3ghz?
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[19:34] <des__> hi anyone use citadel email server i am stuck trying to get the active directory to work
[19:34] <neurosis-> http://www.howtogeek.com/172987/revive-your-old-pc-the-3-best-linux-systems-for-old-computers/
[19:34] <ikonia> howtogeek = poor
[19:35] <SpaghettiCat> I don't he's pour with all that ad revenue
[19:35] <bprompt> DIY !== poor; per se
[19:35] <SpaghettiCat> *poor
[19:36] <sharkasdf> ok this is what i got. Athlon 64 2.0ghz
[19:36] <sharkasdf> Athlon 64 processor 3200+ 1800mhz
[19:37] <sharkasdf> 1254MiB ram, not sure what kind
[19:37] <flaiks> sharkasdf: I personally would run something super light, xubuntu or lubuntu
[19:37] <flaiks> sharkasdf: what kind of GPU ?
[19:38] <sharkasdf> Well I wish I could run something smaller, but thats not an option.
[19:38] <neurosis-> I have a old Pc I think its like 10yrs old and it is running debian 7
[19:38] <sharkasdf> I only have those 2. My internet is not fast enough nor do I have the money to download a new OS
[19:38] <bekks> sharkasdf: you dont need money for downloading Ubuntu.
[19:38] <ikonia> I suggest not using either
[19:39] <neurosis-> bekks no its free
[19:39] <sharkasdf> Graphics is Radeon Xpress 200 RS480M
[19:39] <sharkasdf> I do for internet data though
[19:39] <sharkasdf> It's expensive =
[19:39] <sharkasdf> =\
[19:39] <bprompt> sharkasdf:      are your two choices due to bandwidth constraints.. linuxmint and ubuntu 14.04?
[19:39] <sharkasdf> Yes.
[19:40] <sharkasdf> I pay by the MB
[19:40] <bprompt> sharkasdf:      are your two choices  "only" due to bandwidth constraints.. linuxmint and ubuntu 14.04?
[19:40] <sharkasdf> bprompt yes
[19:42] <flaiks> sharkasdf: ah yeah, What i would reccomend doing is going to a library and downbloadin it
[19:42] <bprompt> sharkasdf:     then I gather the lightweight, by definition, would be linuxmint then
[19:42] <flaiks> sharkasdf: or if you're a student download it on the schools internet
[19:42] <flaiks> sharkasdf: slap it on a usb and take it home and burn it
[19:43] <bekks> linux mint? lightweight? lol :)
[19:43] <bekks> USe an an ubuntu minimal.
[19:43] <bprompt> or just go to starbucks, get a chai tea, and download it there :P
[19:43] <flaiks> bprompt: capitol idea.
[19:43] <sharkasdf> ?
[19:43] <ianorlin> yeah lubuntu has more lightweight stuff than linux mint
[19:43] <flaiks> sharkasdf: go to starbucks and download it on their wifi
[19:43] <ianorlin> or even just a window manager if you want to go that way
[19:43] <flaiks> sharkasdf: dont get a chai latte though lol
[19:43] <ianorlin> that depends on wifi chip
[19:44] <ianorlin> if it is some broadcom might need to plug it into ethernet
[19:44] <bprompt> ianorlin:     many other distributions are lighter than linuxmint... .but sharkasdf    is saying that he already downloaded only those two, Mint and 14.04... and due to MB/s pricing charges, he/she'd rather settle for the lighter of those
[19:45] <neurosis-> linuxmint Is generally one g i run Linux Mint
[19:45] <ianorlin> !info openbox
[19:45] <bekks> If he already downloaded both - he should use Ubuntu,.
[19:45] <zgn> after booting a ubuntu 14.04 usb ihadsetup useing win7 and unetbootin, when i try to bootusb i get error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found and it drops to grub rescue>
[19:45] <zgn> what do i do
[19:45] <sharkasdf> bprompt: yes. my only option due to bandwidth
[19:45] <flaiks> bekks: i feel unity would be way "heavier" than cinnamon
[19:45] <ianorlin> or could just download lightweight window manager won't be that much
[19:46] <neurosis-> Elementary OS is super light and small
[19:46] <zgn> Can anyonehelp me?
[19:46] <bekks> flaiks: Nothing on this planet forces you to use Unity or Cinnamon.
[19:46] <flaiks> sharkasdf: are you with comcast or something ?
[19:46] <flaiks> bekks: true story
[19:46] <zgn> can someone help me:(
[19:46] <bekks> flaiks: sudo apt-get lubuntu-desktop; done :)
[19:46] <bekks> !patience | zgn
[19:46] <flaiks> bekks: wasnt thinking too far intoi it, working on a huge node.js app at the same time
[19:49] <sharkasdf> flaiks, no i live in zambia. 3rd world internet blows
[19:49] <sharkasdf> I wish i had comcast
[19:50] <flaiks> sharkasdf: ah okay
[19:52] <neurosis-> sharkasdf what os have you downloaded
[19:52] <sharkasdf> Linuxmint 17 and ubuntu 14.04
[19:52] <sharkasdf> Its one or the other
[19:53] <neurosis-> All I can say is from experience ubuntu to didn't do so well on an older computer
[19:53] <bekks> neurosis-: So dont use Unity but one of the more lightweight desktop environments.
[19:54] <yeats> neurosis-: sharkasdf: use Lubuntu - it's excellent and very low footprint
[19:54] <Silenced> How to add environment variables in ubuntu ?
[19:54] <flaiks> anyone have any experience with photoshop cs6 + wine ?
[19:54] <neurosis-> bekks true
[19:54] <ianorlin> !purelxde
[19:55] <bprompt> sharkasdf:     linuxmint is ubuntu-based.... the selling point of it, is that is lighter, thus why I said "by definition"
[19:55] <ianorlin> that would give less download
[19:55] <ianorlin> if you have ubuntu downloaded already
[19:55] <ianorlin> but may take more time
[19:55] <yeats> flaiks: you probably need to ask in #winehq - but I'll recommend gimp as a functional replacment
[19:56] <flaiks> yeats: nah, ive tried gimp, no good
[19:57] <neurosis-> flaiks https://www.winehq.org/
[19:59] <flaiks> neurosis-: thanks
[19:59] <flaiks> neurosis-: managed to find a guide on askubuntu.com
[20:01] <sharkasdf> yeats I dont have lubuntu
[20:01] <flaiks> any reccomendations for good VM software ?
[20:01] <flaiks> anything similar to vmware fusion would be major
[20:02] <yeats> sharkasdf: see ianorlin's link about pure lxde
[20:03] <yeats> flaiks: KVM
[20:03] <sharkasdf> Ok maybe I will try that. Thank you yeats/ianorlin
[20:03] <yeats> sharkasdf: totally worth it
[20:04] <owner_> owner
[20:05] <timvisher-xubunt> anyone familiar with fixing 14.04 laptop brightness controls?
[20:07] <timvisher-xubunt> this and various other things doesn't seem to do anything http://itsfoss.com/fix-brightness-ubuntu-1310/
[20:09] <sloantothebone> Help me!!!!
[20:09] <neurosis-> flaiks are you running vmware?
[20:09] <timvisher-xubunt> sloantothebone: are you being attacked?
[20:09] <sloantothebone> Startup applications is gone!
[20:10] <sloantothebone> I've tried reinstalling gnome-session-bin but it didn't work! Am I the only one, or is this the result of an update?
[20:10] <flaiks> neurosis-: no
[20:10] <k1l> sloantothebone: what ubuntu is that? what desktop? what error? what did you do?
[20:11] <flaiks> neurosis-: just figured if there was something similar to vmware fusion it'd be easier for photoshop, im having a hell of a time getting it running
[20:11] <sloantothebone> The gnome-session-bin reinstallation was a success but I don't have gnome-session properties (14.04)
[20:11] <sloantothebone> I don't know what I did
[20:11] <yeats> flaiks: run windows in VirtualBox - it would be easier than trying to use Wine
[20:11] <Zido> does Ubuntu run on systemd?
[20:11] <neurosis-> o ok cool
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Zido: We're transitioning to systemd
[20:11] <k1l> sloantothebone: what did you do? what error do you get?
[20:12] <k1l> Zido: no, not in general
[20:12] <flaiks> lol
[20:12] <Zido> why is Ubuntu transitioning to systemd?
[20:12] <flaiks> skype froze my system
[20:12] <neurosis-> i run win 8.1 in VMware Player
[20:12] <flaiks> my mouse is locked :/
[20:12] <k1l> Zido: because debian decided against upstart.
[20:12] <Zido> k1l; so Ubuntu does what Debian does?
[20:13] <sloantothebone> ~$ gnome-session-properties
[20:13] <sloantothebone> The program 'gnome-session-properties' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[20:13] <sloantothebone> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-bin
[20:13] <Zido> k1l; are you aware of the systemd controversy that's been bloating up the news lately?
[20:13] <k1l> Zido: no. but since all big distros will change to systemd there is no sense in running upstart alone since systemd couples a lot of services to systemd.
[20:14] <yeats> !debian | Zido
[20:14] <k1l> Zido: yes we are. but that is more a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic since we try to solve actual tehcnical issue in here
[20:14] <Zido> k1l; sorry
[20:15] <sloantothebone> I typed sudo apt-get remove gnome-session-bin && sudo apt-get install gnome-session-bin and nothing went wrong except I get the same error when I try to run gnome-session-properties
[20:15] <k1l> sloantothebone: again: what did you do? there is no reason to gnome not to work for no reason
[20:15] <sloantothebone> I didn't do anything!
[20:15] <k1l> sloantothebone: ...
[20:15] <k1l> sloantothebone: what did you do before the error came up?
[20:16] <sloantothebone> One day I searched for it and it was gone!
[20:17] <k1l> sloantothebone: *sigh* so you mean a ghost deleted stuff from your system and one day you think "well, i want to see if a program is installed" and then you see its gone?
[20:17] <k1l> sloantothebone: did you install/remove stuff? did you add 3rd party repos or PPAs? did you remove desktops?
[20:17] <timvisher-xubunt> so grub doesn't seem to be the answer to the brightness controls
[20:18] <flaiks> that was messed up
[20:18] <flaiks> opened skype
[20:18] <flaiks> locked my mouse
[20:18] <sloantothebone> Ok, I found out about this when I searched "start" in the Dash, looking for startup applications, and it was gone. I looked on google and finding http://askubuntu.com/questions/452661/where-is-start-up-applications-in-14-04-unity which told me another way to open it is to type gnome-session-properties in the terminal. The rest is history.
[20:18] <neurosis-> flaiks that sucks
[20:18] <sloantothebone> kil: a ghost, a virus, or a wormhole the point is I don't know.
[20:19] <flaiks> neurosis-: tell me about iut
[20:19] <sloantothebone> I was considering removing Uget from startup
[20:19] <flaiks> it
[20:19] <flaiks> neurosis-: i think it was because it was the first itme i ever launched it, got flooded with notifications from chats from literally forever
[20:19] <sloantothebone> I installed unity tweak tool, could that have caused it?
[20:20] <k1l> sloantothebone: you are using unity?
[20:20] <neurosis-> flaiks i was just saying i run vm player
[20:20] <neurosis-> it works good for me
[20:20] <sloantothebone> yes
[20:21] <Zido> yes
[20:21] <flaiks> neurosis-: ah aoky
[20:21] <flaiks> neurosis-: you ever used vmware fusion before ?
[20:21] <k1l> sloantothebone: please do a "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[20:21] <sloantothebone> I once tried installing kubuntu-desktop but I didn't like it but couldn't change it back to ubuntu and everything got worse when I tried to fix it so I reinstalled ubuntu over everything
[20:22] <sloantothebone> I already tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:22] <neurosis-> flaiks no you?
[20:22] <flaiks> neurosis-: yeah its insanely good, there's nothing like it
[20:23] <flaiks> neurosis-: you can install windows/mac annd it runs the programs outside of the "VM" persay
[20:23] <flaiks> neurosis-: it will run the OS's apps as if they were native apps, unfortunatly it's not available for linux
[20:23] <neurosis-> I'm going to check it out thanks
[20:23] <k1l> sloantothebone: hmm. works for me on unity 14.10.
[20:24] <neurosis-> o i see the win only
[20:24] <k1l> sloantothebone: maybe make a relogin?
[20:24] <neurosis-> lol
[20:24] <JaY_DeE> r
[20:24] <neurosis-> you can to that in vm player its called unity
[20:25] <neurosis-> to run programs outside of the vm
[20:25] <flaiks> neurosis-:  ? link ?
[20:25] <flaiks> neurosis-: because i would rather do that to run photoshop and dick around with wine
[20:25] <neurosis-> http://bruce.krash.net/?p=183
[20:26]  * sloantothebone wonders how to manually edit startup
[20:26] <k1l> sloantothebone: did you relogin?
[20:26] <flaiks> neurosis-: damn
[20:26] <flaiks> neurosis-: thanks
[20:27] <neurosis-> its cool
[20:27] <flaiks> neurosis-: yeah thats exactly what I was looking for
[20:32] <neurosis-> i think you can get vbox in the Ubuntu Software Center if you don't like vm player
[20:33] <bekks> you can get it from their official website, too.
[20:33] <AlexPortable> Can I move my ubuntu harddisk to another pc?
[20:34] <AlexPortable> Or will this cause driver issues?
[20:34] <bekks> AlexPortable: you can easily copy it.
[20:34] <AlexPortable> no I mean move the whole dissk
[20:34] <AlexPortable> I want to swap 2 diskss
[20:34] <bekks> So do it.
[20:34] <AlexPortable> won't it cause any issues?
[20:34] <bekks> AlexPortable: That depends on your hardware.
[20:34] <AlexPortable> how can I find out?
[20:35] <flaiks> neurosis-: no i think vmware will do just fine
[20:35] <AlexPortable> if it causes issues can I just move the disks back or willl this not work?
[20:35] <flaiks> it has unity mode which it exactly what imlooking for neurosis-
[20:35] <bekks> AlexPortable: you need to compare the hardware of both computers.
[20:35] <neurosis-> flaiks cool
[20:35] <OerHeks> roll back videodriver to nouveau, and you'll be fine
[20:35] <AlexPortable> bekks: they are quite different
[20:35] <AlexPortable> video driver is xorg now
[20:35] <bekks> AlexPortable: "xorg" is no video driver.
[20:36] <AlexPortable> well it says so
[20:36] <bekks> AlexPortable: Where does what say so?
[20:36] <bekks> AlexPortable: Which graphics hardware do you have?
[20:36] <AlexPortable> the one is amd v140, not sure what gpu. the other one is intel something with nvidia 6300
[20:37] <bekks> AlexPortable: you need to find out the cou of that amd v140.
[20:37] <bekks> AlexPortable: just take a look at "lspci | grep VGA"
[20:38] <bekks> s/cou/gpu/
[20:39] <AlexPortable> amd radeon hd 4200 from the top of my head
[20:39] <bekks> AlexPortable: Just run the command I gave you :)
[20:39] <AlexPortable> I'm not on the pc atm
[20:39] <bekks> So your question cannot be answered.
[20:40] <AlexPortable> lol
[20:40] <bekks> AlexPortable: Without knowing your hardware - how are we supposed to tell you "you need to do this or that with the GPU drivers."?
[20:40] <AlexPortable> well it's radeon hd 4200
[20:42] <bekks> AlexPortable: Then you will have to uninstall the drivers for that GPU and install the drivers for the Nvidia GPU.
[20:43] <AlexPortable> ok
[20:43] <daftykins> 4200 is old generation and unsupported by fglrx on 14.04
[20:43] <daftykins> so you can't use anything other than the open source driver anyway
[20:43] <AlexPortable> so what should I do?
[20:43] <daftykins> get a new card
[20:43] <AlexPortable> it's a laptop...
[20:43] <AlexPortable> cards can't be changed
[20:44] <daftykins> i haven't been following the conversation though, i just glanced in
[20:44] <bekks> USe the opensource driver
[20:44] <daftykins> yeah i understand how hardware works :) i just wasn't here
[20:44] <AlexPortable> openssource driver will work fine?
[20:44] <daftykins> well it's your only choice.
[20:44] <bekks> AlexPortable: You have no other choice.
[20:44] <AlexPortable> the reason I want to swap is because my system1 (the intel one) won't shutdown on ubuntu 10.04
[20:44] <AlexPortable> 14.04*
[20:44] <bekks> AlexPortable: Thats no valid reason for changing systems :)
[20:44] <AlexPortable> and I have linux mint on the v140 / hd 4200 one, but i can't print there. it just says 'done (printed'
[20:45] <AlexPortable> but prints nothing
[20:45] <estudiante> hola
[20:46] <AlexPortable> estudiante: hello there
[20:46] <Zippie> Hello!!!
[20:46] <estudiante> hello
[20:46] <estudiante> yuo ply minecraft
[20:46] <Snwspeckle> Question, I am trying to install lua-expat version 1.3.0-1 but every time I run sudo apt-get install lua-expat it says I have the newest version (1.2.0)
[20:46] <Zippie> This is awsome...my first time on a UBUNTU chat...sorry people I'm a newby...
[20:47] <daftykins> Zippie: support questions only in here, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:47] <neurosis-> Zippie its all good
[20:47] <AlexPortable> Anyone can maybe help me with getting my system to actually shutdown?
[20:47] <Zippie> Well this wgy I'm here battling to get my Cannon printer installed
[20:47] <AlexPortable> then I don't have to reinstall
[20:47] <bekks> AlexPortable: You dont have to reinstall at all, because that windows habbit doesnt fix issues.
[20:48] <emx> does anyone know a good guide how to get from ubuntu core rootfs to a configured linux box?
[20:48] <Snwspeckle> Any ideas whats wrong with lua-expat?
[20:48] <bekks> AlexPortable: What exactly happens when you issue "sudo init 0" in a terminal? Beware, that will shutdown your system.
[20:48] <AlexPortable> bekks: well I meant putting debian or mint on it or something else
[20:48] <dm7freek> Soooooo.... I locked my workstation and got some food and came back. Now, I see the login screen, and everything is normal EXCEPT the text box for password input wont load!!! what do I do?
[20:49] <bekks> AlexPortable: "that windows habbit doesnt fix issues". If you want to put Mint or Debian onto it, do it - but that will not fix your issues.
[20:49] <solsTiCe> dm7freek: happened to me. I rebooted
[20:49] <dm7freek> solsTiCe: I would usually do that, but this time it would be particularly annoying to have to do that
[20:49] <dm7freek> UBUNTU NINJAS ASSEEEEEEMMMMBBBLLLLEEE
[20:50] <kyle_Austin> Anyone know how to run QT Creator from command line?
[20:50] <bekks> kyle_Austin: "qtcreator"?
[20:50] <km4> hi, why i dont have folder /etc/shells ?
[20:50] <Zippie> Does anybody know where I could get some good Linux tutorials?
[20:50] <kyle_Austin> Correct
[20:50] <bekks> km4: Because it is a file.
[20:50] <kyle_Austin> i am trying to use qmake and having strange results
[20:51] <AlexPortable> bekks: how do you know it won't solve my issues? Ubuntu 10.04 ran fine, but 14.04 only gives problems
[20:51] <dm7freek> solsTiCe: Is it a commin issue for you?
[20:51] <dm7freek> common*
[20:51] <bekks> AlexPortable: So did you do what I told you? :)
[20:51] <Snwspeckle> Any ideas ? haha
[20:51] <km4> bekks: then where i can customaizing my zsh ?
[20:52] <bekks> km4: In your .zshrc file e.g.
[20:52] <AlexPortable> bekks: working on it
[20:52] <jeffspeff> i've just installed 14.04lts on an old laptop. the wifi chipset is broadcom. after the install i did updates. i saw under "additional drivers" it showed the broadcom wireless device. i chose to install it. it then errored out and crashed. i rebooted, but now it doesn't show the device/driver available under "additional drivers" and the wifi isn't working. i'm brand new to ubuntu and deb based systems.
[20:52] <jeffspeff> running dmesg | grep broadcom or dmesg | grep bcm doesn't show anything.
[20:52] <Kurlon> Afternoon all.  I assume the odds of Request-Tracker 4.2.8 or 4.2.4 being brought over from vivid or utopic to trusty (which is on 4.0.19) are slim given it's not just a straight drop in upgrade?
[20:53] <timvisher-xubunt> hmm... finally found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight#The_.2BAC8-sys.2BAC8-class.2BAC8-backlight_interface which i suspect i should've been trying to use this whole time :
[20:54] <dm7freek> where mah ninjas at?
[20:54] <PeterA_> I have an external monitor connected to my laptop
[20:55] <k1l> dm7freek: can you keep this channel clear for ubuntu support? thanks
[20:55] <timvisher-xubunt> it's times like these that i remember why i like macs :)
[20:55] <PeterA_> But the 12" laptop screen has the same resolution as the 24" external monitor
[20:55] <solsTiCe> it happend with 14.04 sometimes. really annoying. I have the impression it's gone since I upgraded to 14.10.
[20:55] <k1l> PeterA_: change the resolutions in system settings.
[20:56] <PeterA_> So when I plug it in everything is massive on the external or tiny on the laptop
[20:56] <k1l> PeterA_: like you would do  on any other OS
[20:56] <PeterA_> How can
[20:56] <PeterA_> How can I change the resolution past the monitor's hardware?
[20:56] <dm7freek> solsTiCe: 14.04 is LTS tho, shouldn't the fix be backported?
[20:56] <k1l> PeterA_: past the monitors hardware?
[20:56] <dm7freek> k1l: trying to get some myself tbh
[20:57] <solsTiCe> dm7freek: I have no idea if it's a reported bug
[20:57] <PeterA_> External is 1080p, I can't set it past that. I suppose I could lower the resolution on the laptop display, but that seems dumb
[20:57] <dm7freek> solsTiCe: ah! maybe I can report it. do you know where to go?
[20:57] <k1l> PeterA_: you can set different resolutions.
[20:58] <Snwspeckle> Why is my apt-get not grabbing the newest version of lua-expat and it thinks version 1.2.0 is the newest but really version 1.3.0 is
[20:58] <PeterA_> I don't want to lower the quality of the laptop screen though:(
[20:58] <solsTiCe> Petazz: you an't set diffrent dpi for each monitor. that's a shame of X11
[20:58] <k1l> Snwspeckle: which ubuntu are you on?
[20:58] <solsTiCe> dm7freek: launchad.net
[20:59] <AlexPortable> bekks: same as normal shutdown. Asking all remainig processes to terminate. Ok. Killing all remaining processes. Fail. Deactivating swap. Mount / is busy. Will now halt
[20:59] <PeterA_> So there's no solution?
[20:59] <k1l> PeterA_: i dont understand where your issue is right now
[20:59] <bekks> AlexPortable: So the system shutdown, but does not turn off? Thats an ACPI bug in your BIOS then.
[20:59] <Snwspeckle> k1l, 14.04 version
[20:59] <AlexPortable> bekks: 10.04 worked fine
[21:00] <solsTiCe> dm7freek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1311316
[21:00] <AlexPortable> No issues at all
[21:00] <k1l> !info lua-expat trusty | Snwspeckle
[21:00] <AlexPortable> 14.04 just cant shutdown. Is it really my bios?
[21:00] <k1l> Snwspeckle: who says it should be 1.3 in 14.04?
[21:00] <Snwspeckle> k1l, According to launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lua-expat/1.3.0-1
[21:00] <AlexPortable> bekks: 14.04 just cant shutdown. Is it really my bios?
[21:01] <Snwspeckle> And my prosody XMPP server isn't working becuse of version 1.2.0
[21:01] <PeterA_> kll: I want to use the laptop screen and the external at the same time. I don't want to lower the resolution of the laptop screen, but since the large external and the small laptop screen have the same physical resolution (the hardware is 1080p), I can't set either past that
[21:01] <k1l> Snwspeckle: i think you dont know that versions on a release get freezed.
[21:01] <PeterA_> So things look massive on the external or tiny on the laptop
[21:01] <bekks> AlexPortable: Yes, it is, most likely. You could try adding "acpi=off" to your kernel command line.
[21:02] <Snwspeckle> k1l, What do you mean "freezed"?
[21:02] <AlexPortable> bekks: how can I add that?
[21:02] <k1l> Snwspeckle: look on the right handside. it only says utopic which is 14.10
[21:02] <dm7freek> solsTiCe: oh nice! fixed 9-17 means it won't be pushed for a while you think?
[21:02] <AlexPortable> bekks: and how does that relates to 10.04 being able to shutdown just fine?
[21:02] <k1l> Snwspeckle: before a release the software gets freezed so there are no version updates.
[21:02] <bekks> AlexPortable: BEcause 10.04 handled (due to a different kernel) ACPI differently.
[21:02] <k1l> Snwspeckle: this lists the versions and the releases: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lua-expat
[21:03] <bekks> AlexPortable: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2217602
[21:03] <bynarie> hey, im trying to get to the nvidia 3d settings.. running nvidia-settings takes me to a generic screen with no 3d options. i have installed nvidia binary driver
[21:03] <bynarie> any ideas?
[21:03] <AlexPortable> bekks: can I use the old kernel or not recommended? Also how can I add it to my kernel
[21:03] <Snwspeckle> k1l, So is there any way to update to 1.3.0?
[21:03] <km4> anyone nstal zsh-plugin ?
[21:03] <bekks> AlexPortable: Do not use that ancient kernel anymore.
[21:03] <k1l> Snwspeckle: see if a PPA offers a newer version
[21:03] <bekks> k1l: How does that poll help you?
[21:03] <PeterA_> kll: Is there a solution besides zoom each app depending on what screen it's on or lowering the laptop resolution?
[21:04] <PeterA_> Basically I'm looking for virtual high resolution on an external
[21:04] <k1l> Snwspeckle: see the link i posted and see at the bottom saing: other versions of ....
[21:04] <Kurlon> k1l: Outside of a PPA, is there a normal process for newer major releases to end up getting backported to an LTS repository?
[21:04] <AlexPortable> bekks: you mean add acpi=off to grub?
[21:04] <Snwspeckle> k1l, ah ok thanks!
[21:05] <k1l> Kurlon: security and bug patches get backported
[21:05] <bekks> AlexPortable: To the kernel command line. The article given just explains how to do it properly.
[21:05] <k1l> Kurlon: and for special software like browsers there are updates. xorg, drivers and kernel get backported with the enablement stack for the LTS
[21:06] <solsTiCe> dm7freek: look at comment #59
[21:06] <Kurlon> k1l: Ok, that tells me I should be able to push for RT to be bumped to 4.0.22 as it's bug fixes on top of 4.0.19, but no chance of getting 4.2.x as it's a major ver bump.
[21:06] <k1l> Kurlon: but in general, no. in special: talk to the maintainer
[21:06] <Kurlon> k1l: Thank you for clarifying that.  Now I have a sense of direction on this project. :D
[21:06] <k1l> Kurlon: depends. some times only 4.0.19 gets patched to 4.0.19-ubuntu3.
[21:07] <solsTiCe> dm7freek: or you could try https://launchpad.net/~3v1n0/+archive/ubuntu/unity-tests
[21:07] <k1l> Kurlon: it really depends on what the rest of the packages will do if that package is updated. lts is meant to be stable so not too much changes there.
[21:07]  * dm7freek dubs solsTiCe a Ubuntu ninja
[21:08] <dm7freek> solsTiCe: comment #14 was what I needed :)
[21:08] <k1l> PeterA_: if i understand you correct: you want 1080p on both monitors but want different dpi?
[21:08] <AlexPortable> bekks: well the article isn't clear. One says update grub, someone else says remove Cairo dock, someone else says install WiFi driver
[21:08] <bekks> AlexPortable: the article is very clear, it tells you how to tell GRUB to change the kernel command line.
[21:09] <bekks> And installing wifi drivers will not change the kernel command line to contain "acpi=off".
[21:09] <PeterA_> kll: yeah
[21:09] <k1l> PeterA_: ok, that will not work :/
[21:10] <PeterA_> So I have to lower the laptop res?
[21:10] <Zephyr1139> !partition
[21:11] <Snwspeckle> k1l, I got it working, thanks!
[21:12] <k1l> PeterA_: you need to find a dpi compromise
[21:12] <PeterA_> Any way to set up automatic zoom when I move applications between screens?
[21:13] <therue> weechat any good?
[21:13] <Zephyr1139> I am installing an additional HD into my dual booted desktop PC. What "partion type" should I use for this new drive? I want to be able to read and write to it from either OS (Windows Vista and Ubuntu).
[21:14] <pbx> PeterA_, i don't think so. i use compiz grid keybindings to move windows, but except for full-screen ones they don't auto-adapt
[21:14] <pbx> i do recommend taking advantage of compiz grid though
[21:17] <PeterA_> Dang it. Oh well I'll figure something out
[21:19] <flaiks> yeh
[21:19] <flaiks> vmware player in unity mode is wicked, can run photoshop without dealing all that BS
[21:19] <Zephyr1139> !LBA
[21:20] <AlexPortable> bekks: thanks it worked!!!
[21:21] <bow84> iho
[21:21] <flaiks> therue: yes, i switched from xchat
[21:21] <flaiks> therue: i enjoy it more, much lighter
[21:21] <therue> ya i'm considering trying that :D
[21:21] <flaiks> therue: what you on now ?
[21:22] <jhutchins_wk> irssi ftw
[21:22] <therue> hexchat
[21:22] <therue> well i'm actually on my windows right now
[21:22] <therue> lol
[21:22] <therue> hey since i just installed my linux
[21:22] <therue> was wondering if anyone could recommend some good software to download
[21:22] <jhutchins_wk> Lots of us run a central instance and we can access it through screen and putty or linux terminal.
[21:22] <bprompt> therue:    firefox :P
[21:22] <therue> like essential stuff for monitoring your system, music, video, cool useful applet, desklet,
[21:23] <bekks> AlexPortable: you're welcome. :)
[21:23] <therue> browsers take so much cpu in linux :(
[21:23] <bprompt> !conky | therue  maybe?
[21:23] <bprompt> hmm
[21:24] <therue> hmm conky looks cool :D
[21:27] <sparr> When I use `man` I see numbered lines. The numbering screws up word wrapping in my console. How can I disable the line numbers, or fix the wrapping?
[21:28] <dm7freek> man uses less i believe. try man less?
[21:28] <flaiks> man
[21:28] <flaiks> netflix slows my system down quite a bit
[21:28] <flaiks> oh BTW
[21:28] <bekks> Dont use netflix then :)
[21:28] <flaiks> is it possible to snap windows into quartters in unity
[21:28] <flaiks> rather than halves ?
[21:28] <flaiks> if that makes sense
[21:29] <flaiks> i was looking through the settings and couldnt find anything
[21:29] <rgenito> it looks like apt-get thinks i have a 32bit OS =[
[21:29] <rgenito> gcc-4.8-multilib : Depends: libc6-dev-i386 (>= 2.11)
[21:29] <rgenito> is this the case?
[21:29] <rgenito> any idea how i fix this? =\
[21:31] <daftykins> flaiks: no, the halves is a windows copy anyway
[21:33] <AlexPortable> What is casual photo editting software for ubuntu? I want to apply layers like black/white and other stuff?
[21:33] <k1l> gimp?
[21:34] <k1l> if its only easy stuff like cutting, rotating try shotwell
[21:36] <sparr> dm7freek: thanks. that explains it. new question :)
[21:36] <sparr> I'm using `less -N` to get line numbers. This results in lines wider than my terminal (by about the width of the line numbers). How can I fix that?
[21:37] <dm7freek> sparr: what machine are you on?
[21:37] <Pici> sparr: try using less -SN
[21:38] <bprompt> sparr:    are you just grabbing a page from the man pages and you want line numbers?
[21:38] <AlexPortable> k1l: not cutting. Only apply layerd
[21:38] <AlexPortable> Layers*
[21:39] <bprompt> sparr:     I use konqueror, and it has a man_kio    or kde i/o widget, that "htmlizes" the man pages... and you can grab the source and edit it away
[21:48] <Zephyr1139> I am using a removeable IDE drive bay. The bios recognizes the added HD but this causes the system to hangs at a blinking cursor before the grub boot loader on the primary drive loads. With out the removeable drive plugged in the system boots as normal. I used a USB to IDE adapter to mount the drive on my laptop so that I could format it as a FAT32 type 75GB single partition. Anybody have any ideas wh
[21:48] <Zephyr1139> at could be hanging the bootup?
[21:49] <bekks> Zephyr1139: Because your computer tries to boot from it, without success.
[21:51] <Zephyr1139> bekks, I checked the boot order... it's not set as the disk to boot from. It doesn't even have a boot flag enabled (by fdisk).
[21:51] <sparr> dm7freek: iterm2 on osx, connected to ubuntu 14.04 via ssh, with bash for the shell.
[21:51] <sparr> bprompt: I'm doing "man foo", and it's giving me line numbers because my $LESS has "-N" in it (I think)
[21:52] <sparr> bprompt: I'm just reading man pages, not trying to edit things
[21:52] <bekks> Zephyr1139: The boot flag is irrelevant since two decades :)
[21:53] <master_> Lynne.Naelitz@GrantStreet.com
[21:53] <daftykins> master_: why are you pasting that here?
[21:53] <master_> im looking for a friend Lynne.Naelitz@GrantStreet.com
[21:53] <Lunario> i am looking for a way to play anything on ubuntu and listen to it wirelessly on earphones. do you know any good equipment for that?
[21:54] <k1l> master_: this is not the right channel
[21:54] <master_> what is the rght channel?
[21:54] <sparr> Pici: -S makes it not wrap oddly, but now the text that would have wrapped just disappears off the right side of the terminal
[21:54] <Pici> sparr: press your right arrow
[21:54] <coventry> I'd like to hibernate without typing my password every time.  pm-hibernate works.  I found the command "dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate", but this seems to have no effect.  Any suggestions?
[21:54] <k1l> master_: please ask in #freenode
[21:54] <dieguezz> hi, how can i check if kernel was configured with genkernel?
[21:54] <master_> ok
[21:54] <coventry> BTW, That command was suggested at http://askubuntu.com/questions/356979/how-to-assign-a-shortcut-key-to-send-my-system-into-hibernation
[21:55] <emx> is there a manual on how to build up a ubuntu core rootfs?
[21:55] <k1l> emx: for arm?
[21:55] <emx> k1l, yes
[21:55] <k1l> emx: see the topic in #ubuntu-arm
[21:55] <sparr> Pici: I don't want to scroll right. I want the man page to wrap normally, like it does without -N
[22:01] <Zephyr1139> bekks, tried a new HD formatted the same way (I've got a bunch of spare drives). This one booted at the terminal briefly stated "no active parition" before displaying the GRUB boot menu.
[22:08] <emx> k1l, k, thanks
[22:10] <solsTiCe> ubuntu use dnsmasq by default ? network-manager depends on dnsmasq-base ?
[22:16] <lynne_21> lots of people on today
[22:16] <Joe_knock> Hello
[22:17] <Joe_knock> I'd like to change my IP address for my desktop machine to static, but my interfaces file has this: auto lo
[22:17] <Joe_knock> iface lo inet loopback
[22:17] <k1l> Joe_knock: you can do this with networkmanager
[22:17] <Joe_knock> do I just adjust the file as per these instructions: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/ ??
[22:18] <therue> anyone know the difference between weechat and weechat curses?
[22:20] <Joe_knock> k1l: I don't see any options for changing to "static" in network manager
[22:20] <trism> therue: weechat is just an empty package that depends on weechat-curses
[22:21] <lynne_21> rub your feet on the ground for static
[22:21] <k1l> Joe_knock: there is
[22:21] <Joe_knock> k1l: Is it "manual" ??
[22:21] <k1l> Joe_knock: yes
[22:22] <Joe_knock> k1l: What about the "network" and "broadcast" IP addresses? Not needed?
[22:24] <k1l> Joe_knock: come on.
[22:24] <k1l> Joe_knock: choose manual, then click on add and add the ip adresses
[22:24] <Joe_knock> k1l: Am I doing something wrong?
[22:25] <Joe_knock> aah okay. let me try that.
[22:25] <Joe_knock> thank you
[22:25] <Logern> I am IRC;ing from telnet
[22:25] <l0rdn1x> lol
[22:25] <JYD> Hey guys, since light-locker is horribly broken,, and there seems to be no intention on fixing it I need to get rid of it and revert to xscreensaver. Anything I need to be aware of before I remove light-locker and install xscreensaver?
[22:25] <JYD> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=392777
[22:26] <Joe_knock> JYD: Remember to purge and not just remove
[22:26] <JYD> I'm affected by the preceding ^ bug
[22:26] <JYD> Joe_knock, Right on. Thanks.
[22:26] <JYD> Anyone else caught up in this light-locker BS?
[22:28] <JYD> In addition to that bug,, light-locker seems to cause the black screen of death on unlock.
[22:29] <JYD> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1259339
[22:29] <JYD> http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[22:29] <JYD> Guys,,
[22:29] <JYD> If this is such a known and widespread issue,, why the hell is it still in the LTS?
[22:29] <JYD> No entiendo wey..
[22:29] <bubbasaures> !patience | JYD
[22:33] <JYD> Since light-locker is a failed attempt at aesthetics > stability, can we please revert to a functioning but ugly xscreensaver?
[22:33] <JYD> Complaint ^. Not trolling.
[22:34] <daftykins> JYD: nobody here is official enough to actually take your comments and do anything about it
[22:35] <JYD> daftykins, Understood.
[22:36] <JYD> OK, so here goes. Nuking light-locker. Thanks guys.
[22:36] <Zephyr1139> JYD, Is your power management set up to "hibernate" when your laptop lid is closed?
[22:37] <deejayv> lucy ita
[22:37] <JYD> Zephyr1139,
[22:37] <JYD> oops,, Zephyr1139 no.
[22:37] <JYD> Lock,
[22:37] <JYD> and it has no effect,, still hibernates.
[22:37] <JYD> I had to edit acpi settings to override it.
[22:38] <avid_fan> Zephyr1139: mine is set to the default "suspend"
[22:38] <JYD> I'm sorry.
[22:39] <JYD> blah,, logind settings.
[22:39] <Zephyr1139> JYD, go through all of the power management conditions and make sure 'hibernate' or 'suspend' are not a selected option.
[22:40] <JYD> Zephyr1139, Just confirmed, no hibernate settings.
[22:40] <JYD> All set to lock
[22:40] <JYD> And when I set it withing power manager it has no effect.
[22:40] <JYD> within, even.
[22:40] <Zephyr1139> avid_fan, I haven't had much success with either.  Perhaps I don't have enough swap space?
[22:43] <Zephyr1139> JYD, it's gotta be the friggin screen saver then (as you've probably discovered)
[22:44] <JYD> Yea, that's where the bread crumbs lead to.
[22:45] <Zephyr1139> JYD, is this a new SSver your trying out?
[22:45] <abhinav> hello
[22:45] <abhinav> i am trying to make my own applicationindicator
[22:45] <abhinav> but I am not finding good resources
[22:45] <JYD> No, default 14.01 light-locker package id broken.
[22:46] <JYD> 14.04
[22:46] <abhinav> can someone point me to some good resources for development of applicationindicator ?
[22:46] <JYD> And I just want to get rid of it,, and revert to xscreensaver.
[22:47] <avid_fan> JYD: I'm actually running the Cinnamon version of Linux Mint, with litle to no modifications from stock install. But in the past I will admit that too have had issues with power management, differing models of hardware, and differing screen savers.
[22:47] <avid_fan> JYD: My aged Dell Latitude and most versions of Linux Mint have been playing nicely for some time.
[22:48] <anonymous__> #ubuntu
[22:48] <anonymous_> test
[22:48] <anonymous__> Sup
[22:48] <anonymous_> SUUUUUP
[22:49] <bubbasaures> !topic
[22:49] <avid_fan> anonymous_: Whaaaaaaaasssuuuuuuuuupppppp?
[22:49] <anonymous_> WASSSSSUUUUUBBBBB
[22:49] <JYD> We should setup up a bug bounty.
[22:50] <k1l> anonymous_: anonymous__ avid_fan drop that.
[22:51] <anonymous__> This OS will be shut down due to criminal activity with these users. -Agent 007
[22:51] <JYD> I'll donate 1 BTC to address the light-locker bugs once and for all. Stank about it.
[22:51] <bazhang> JYD, you're on MINT?
[22:51] <avid_fan> k1l: Roger roger
[22:52] <JYD> In fact,, I'll give 1 BTC to see it dropped from LTS until it's fixed,, and then another 1 BTC to fix it.. $700+-.
[22:52] <JYD> I'm using xubuntu at present.
[22:53] <k1l> JYD: best is if you talk on the bugreports to the maintainers
[22:53] <bazhang> JYD, lets not talk about payment here, there are avenues for that (ie elsewhere)
[23:00] <JYD> I can't fix the issue. I don't have a dog in the fight. I would love however, that any LTS put stability over aesthetics. It's frustrating as a user, to see that my bug is listed as a "Known problem" on an LTS that was release 6 months ago.
[23:00] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here use nvidia-settings to adjust their fan speed? when I enable the coolbits option and then check the box for adjusting it, and move the slider down to some lower number, click apply it just jumps back up to 43% fan speed. what gives?
[23:00] <JYD> And:http://xubuntu.org/news/laptop-users-fix-available-for-the-black-screen-on-unlock-bug/
[23:00] <JYD> does not work.
[23:01] <JYD> k1l, bazhang. Thanks.
[23:03] <k1l> JYD: i can understand your frustration having a bug. but ranting and flaming in here doesnt help anyone and the motivation of people to help you gets samcked down. open a bug or contribute to an existing bug and help it get solved. talk to the maintainer. but ranting in here is just pure annoying.
[23:03] <tumlar> hi
[23:03] <JYD> k1l, Understood. Here's the thing. I did all that.
[23:03] <tumlar> that chat is ...
[23:04] <tumlar> hide ip
[23:04] <ki7mt> fftwf-wisdom -v -n -c -o ./fftw_wisdom.dat
[23:04] <JYD> k1l, BTW, I'm not flaming anyone.
[23:04] <JYD> :/
[23:04] <ki7mt> Whoops, sri, wrong window.
[23:05] <Zangune> JYD hi, I am with you, but I believe this is not something will happen anymore
[23:05] <Zangune> lol
[23:05] <JYD> Zangune, Forgive me?
[23:05] <Zangune> JYD hi, I am with you, but I believe this is not something will happen anymore
[23:06] <Zangune> JYD ;)
[23:06] <JYD> Zangune, Slainte.
[23:07] <Zangune> JYD I am sorry to keep you here if you have to go, that was just my idea, nothing more to say :)
[23:08] <ranger81> How do I change virbr0 ip address
[23:08] <ranger81> I have ubuntu host and a nested ubuntu KVM in it, I want these two to talk to each other
[23:08] <ranger81> First host - host ip eth0 - 172.16.106.131, virbr0 - 192.168.22.1, VM ip eth0- 192.168.22.2
[23:08] <ranger81> Second host - host ip eth0 - 172.16.106.132, virbro - 192.168.22.1, VM ip eth0- 192.168.22.2
[23:08] <ranger81> Now I need VM from host 2 to talk to VM running in host 1
[23:09] <eurythmia> How do I find out what my audio output device is? In settings->sound I can see that it's my HDMI/Display port, but I'm looking for hwX:X that I can use with jackd
[23:09] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here setup a noise gate in pulseaudio?
[23:10] <JYD> Yea, I learned not to fight argumentative IRCOPS back in the unet/efnet days. Only get's people upset and disrupts networks. It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. On which note.
[23:10] <therue> test
[23:10] <JYD> Vamos!
[23:11] <godbod>  Hello, why do we sometimes need to launch top in batch mode?
[23:11] <Zangune> ranger81 I guess ifconfig will help you
[23:13] <ranger81> Zangune: what should be the gateway for nested KVM vm?
[23:14] <tencendur> are there any "under the hood" ramifications if I manually change the hostname file to another hostname?
[23:15] <karab44> what is the latests ubuntu kernel and how can I update my 14.04 ?
[23:15] <tony_> how do I get back to having the side panels in Ubuntu 14.10
[23:15] <genii> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[23:15] <k1l> karab44: 14.04 got 3.13. when the next pointrelease there will be a new kernel. the backported from 14.10
[23:16] <eurythmia> ... figured it out ... it requires some trial and error though: get the results of "aplay -l | grep card" and then test various cards with "aplay -D plughw:X,Y /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav" where X is the number of the card, and Y is the number of the device
[23:16] <karab44> wow, great news k1l thank you. So what kernel is inside 14.10?
[23:16] <k1l> karab44: 3.16
[23:17] <karab44> and when can we expect that release?
[23:17] <Bashing-om> !host | tencendur
[23:17] <k1l> !releaseschedule
[23:17] <k1l> !14.04
[23:17] <Bashing-om> !hosts | tencendur
[23:17] <karab44> I have X99 motherboard and it's not fully supported by 3.13 and I've heard that later kernels solve present issues.
[23:17] <karab44> later = newer :D
[23:18] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[23:18] <karab44> you know what I mean
[23:18] <noahki> I get lag after update to 14.10 whenever I move a window, this seems to go away when using GNOME Fallback. I have correct graphics drivers.
[23:18] <k1l> karab44: newer is not always better.
[23:18] <karab44> but this time it should
[23:18] <k1l> karab44: so on february the 5th
[23:19] <godbod>  hello all, why top needs to be launched in batch modH
[23:19] <Zangune> ranger81 if I read well the two machines needs the same gateway: 192.168.22.1
[23:19] <karab44> k1l: ok I see that release schedule but I can't really fully understand when I can expect that 3.16 kernel
[23:20] <karab44> is it 5th feb?
[23:20] <karab44> it's not there
[23:20] <k1l> karab44: with the .2 release
[23:20] <Bashing-om> tencendur: OK, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/change-hostname-ubuntu1404/ . IF you change '/etc/hosts' make sure you make the same change in '/etc/hostname' .
[23:20] <ranger81> Zangune: yes
[23:20] <k1l> karab44: its this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[23:21] <nopf> godbod: do we?
[23:22] <karab44> omg on feb 16?
[23:22] <karab44> Tell me it's on my birthday
[23:22] <tencendur> Bashing-om: thx
[23:22] <ShalokShalom> hi there, can anyone link me the source of the "Check disc for defects" code, please ? (GFXBoot)
[23:23] <Bashing-om> tencendur: :) little thing.
[23:23] <karab44> k1l: very nice overview by the way. Thank you
[23:23] <bubbasaures> ShalokShalom, fsck?
[23:24] <bubbasaures> !fsck
[23:25] <dinkel>  /msg NickServ identify kaas
[23:25] <k1l> karab44: if you really need a new kernel you can try the mainline kernel. but that is not supported from your side here
[23:25] <k1l> !mainline | karab44
[23:25] <ubuntuaddicted> when I open audacity it's not showing my webcam mic as a choice. i see this in the terminal. how can I fix? ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1022:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[23:25] <ShalokShalom> bubbasaures: thanks a lot :)
[23:25] <k1l> *from our side
[23:26] <Zangune> ranger81 and, if I read well again, port forwarding is what you need
[23:26] <catalogue> hey all, i'm trying to uninstall the chromium app launcher
[23:26] <catalogue> no freaking clue how it ended up on my computer and no clue why i can't easily find a way to delete it
[23:26] <bekks> catalogue: So you want to uninstall chromium?
[23:27] <catalogue> bekks, no, just the app launcher that seems to be integrated into my os
[23:27] <bekks> Which app launcher?
[23:27] <karab44> k1l: is it risky?
[23:28] <ranger81> Zangune: where do I configure port forwarding and how
[23:28] <k1l> karab44: it will not burn you pc to ashes. but things can not work that used to work on the ubuntu 3.13.
[23:28] <catalogue> bekks: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2044781/the-new-chrome-app-launcher-googles-backdoor-into-the-offline-world.html
[23:29] <k1l> catalogue: you are on ubuntu?
[23:29] <catalogue> k1l, yes
[23:29] <k1l> catalogue: which exactly?
[23:29] <catalogue> 12.04
[23:29] <bekks> catalogue: there is no chrome (not chromium) app launcher on non-Windows, as the article states.
[23:30] <k1l> catalogue: did you install that manually? add a 3rd party repo? install it by .deb package?
[23:30] <catalogue> k1l, randomly appeared after i installed a chrom extension
[23:30] <catalogue> bekks, what?
[23:31] <Zangune> ranger81 this should help http://serverfault.com/questions/555366 make suitable to your needs
[23:31] <bekks> catalogue: http://www.omgchrome.com/enable-chrome-app-launcher-linux/ enabling/disabling it, perfectly described.
[23:32] <ranger81> Zangune: thanks. I will take a look.
[23:32] <Zangune> ranger81 you are welcome
[23:32] <catalogue> bekks, ?? you mean the 2 sentence afterthought at the bottom of the page, which doesn't work?
[23:32] <k1l> catalogue: run chrome://flags/#enable-app-list in chrome and set it to disable
[23:33] <Core__> Hello, I have created an encrypted drive, how may I automate the mounting of this?
[23:33] <k1l> catalogue: i dont think it "just came there". so i would suggest you just revert the settings you did then
[23:33] <catalogue> k1l, i went to chrome://flags and found the setting, but doesn't seem to be enabled. don't want to click the enable button
[23:33] <ranger81> Zangune: right now, VM in one host is able to reach another host. I just need to find out how to forward packets from destination host to destination VM
[23:33] <ranger81> Zangune: Do you think I should just enable iptables forwarding?
[23:33] <LinuxDummy> Just curious. Is Ubuntu the same as Debian that SuperUser need to be part of a Group Policy in order to have Super User Status?
[23:34] <catalogue> k1l, definitely did randomly appear, after i installed an extension called postman
[23:34] <Zangune> ranger81 yes, to me this is the key
[23:34] <catalogue> er, randomly = against my intent
[23:34] <k1l> catalogue: are you talking about webapps possibly? you can disable them in unity-tweak-tool
[23:35] <bubbasaures> LinuxDummy, No it already is accessible by sudo
[23:35] <k1l> LinuxDummy: the root account is not enabled on ubuntu. so you use sudo to get programs the root permissions
[23:35] <catalogue> k1l, not sure what it is. it's listed as an applicaiton
[23:35] <k1l> !sudo | LinuxDummy
[23:36] <k1l> catalogue: try disabling webapps in unity-tweak-tool
[23:36] <catalogue> k1l, i need to download another program now?
[23:36] <LinuxDummy> I have use sudo and read and was told that my nickname must be part of a group in order for the apt-get argument work. Otherwise, no group no apt-get.
[23:37] <bubbasaures> LinuxDummy, If you make a user you have to put them in, the install user has sudo
[23:37] <LinuxDummy> Even with the password in root the error message states you don't have permission to ussure that command.
[23:38] <LinuxDummy> The Debian folks tell me that you must be part of a GROUP in order to have Super User Operator Status.
[23:39]  * ZerOlegend is away: grabbing dinner
[23:39] <bubbasaures> LinuxDummy, This is not debian, you are not making any sense.
[23:39] <k1l> LinuxDummy: yes sudo group
[23:40] <k1l> LinuxDummy: but we cant help you on debian in here. debian handles that differently
[23:40] <User123xy2> Hi I have a question about Webhosting on ubuntu.
[23:40] <User123xy2> Can somebody help me please?
[23:40] <catalogue> k1l, were you saying that i need to download that new program to get rid of it?
[23:40] <LinuxDummy> I am not asking for a Debian question. I was just in passing asking the strategy of the Linux permissions and group policy.
[23:40] <k1l> catalogue: i dont know what you actually have running there.
[23:41] <User123xy2> Me?
[23:41] <k1l> catalogue: i am just guessing what that thing could be and try to get a solution for removing it.
[23:41] <Zangune> User123xy2 please just ask :)
[23:42] <k1l> catalogue: the more exact detailed you describe what you did and what it is the better people can help you. "i did nothing and suddenly there was that app" is hard to support
[23:42] <LinuxDummy> K11 Sudo Group is what the references were referring to.
[23:42] <w00tburger> so I gad come accross an old ubuntu install and apparently I am not using httpd. is their an easy trick to see what the heck I am running?
[23:42] <User123xy2> Zangue thanks, I have a problem that ftp host and apache2 and mssql php5 are all set up. I have also upload the files to the /var/www/   directory but they are just not displaying as you can see 167.114.97.248
[23:42] <k1l> LinuxDummy: you are way to vague.
[23:42] <catalogue> k1l, i downloaded an extenion called 'postman' and it appeared. literally. that's why i'm so upset about it
[23:43] <k1l> LinuxDummy: tell me your actual ubuntu issue. then we can try to solve that
[23:43] <LinuxDummy> K11 I have always used sudo and was allowed into the root directory, however, even root has rules as well.
[23:43] <k1l> catalogue: so maybe its a webapp? are you running unity?
[23:43] <l0rdn1x> lol
[23:44] <k1l> LinuxDummy: what is your actual issue?
[23:44] <catalogue> k1l, yeah it might be a web app. yes i believe i have unity
[23:44] <LinuxDummy> K11, when into root I am restricted in doing sudo apt-get    sorry phone
[23:45] <k1l> LinuxDummy: dont be root
[23:46] <catalogue> k1l: check out the first comment here: http://lifehacker.com/googles-chrome-app-launcher-runs-chrome-apps-from-the-838022840
[23:46] <k1l> catalogue: did you try to remove postman form chrome?
[23:46] <catalogue> k1l, yes.
[23:46] <User123xy2> :/
[23:47] <macifikation> any one willing to help?
[23:47] <bubbasaures> !ask | macifikation
[23:47] <macifikation> ok sorry
[23:48] <nmvictor> whats the latest version? left when it was 12.0
[23:48] <User123xy2> I have a problem that ftp host and apache2 and mssql php5 are all set up. I have also upload the files to the /var/www/   directory but they are just not displaying as you can see 167.114.97.248
[23:48] <bekks> nmvictor: LAtest version of what?
[23:48] <nmvictor> bekks: ubuntu
[23:49] <bekks> nmvictor: 14.10, and 14.04 for LTS.
[23:49] <nmvictor> wow, gotta grab that and see whats new.
[23:49] <nmvictor> bekks:thanks
[23:49] <macifikation> ok i have a old Dell Dimension 4500 that i would like to get going for my son. I had ubuntu on this thing years ago but dont remember what release it was. I was wondering if anybody could help out and let me know what release would work for it?
[23:50] <catalogue> k1l, looks like this is by design and google has no intent of disabling it: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=298849
[23:50] <catalogue> k1l, thank you for the help though.
[23:51] <k1l> catalogue: see if something is in "~/.local/share/applications"
[23:52] <godbod>  Hello all, does top command uses tty ?
[23:52] <daftykins> macifikation: it would be handy to know the full hardware spec of that system, given Dell do many ranges under the same number
[23:52] <catalogue> k1l, yep, 5 files. should i clear them out?
[23:52] <systemddd> macifikation:  consider lubuntu for something that old...spec-wise.
[23:53] <macifikation> give me a few and i can get it brb
[23:53] <k1l> catalogue: try renaming for the start
[23:53] <User123xy2> Please, can somebody help me..?
[23:53] <systemddd> I have a p4 system with 1.5GB of ram and lubuntu 14.04 on it.  It doesn't fly, but it is usable.
[23:54] <daftykins> User123xy2: 14.04 has the docroot under /var/www/html/
[23:55] <User123xy2> So this means I have to create the html folder since I have deleted it and then re-assign the functions of the ftp account and then it should work?
[23:56] <User123xy2> and of course upload the data to /www/html
[23:56] <catalogue> k1l, :)) commented out the file chromium-app-list.desktop. thank you!!
[23:57]  * ZerOlegend is back (gone 00:18:20)
[23:58] <catalogue> good evening all. take care
[23:58] <bazhang> disable that ZerOlegend
[23:58] <teward> ZerOlegend: please turn that stuff off - away messages are frowned upon in the ubuntu channels...
[23:59] <macifikation> ok this what i got its a P4 at 2.26GHz, 1GB ram. anything else?
[23:59] <daftykins> User123xy2: or modify your default sites-available