[00:02] <jmux> There was definitly too much wine in todays desert (and it was too fluid - well) :-)
[00:08] <JackWolfSkin_> I am not sure there is such a thing as too much wine :O
[00:09] <valorie> the wolfskin even has a tail, nice
[00:09] <valorie> I suppose when drinking wine, if you can no longer stand
[00:10] <valorie> you can sit and drink more
[08:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:25] <sgclark> hiyas
[08:26] <lordievader> Hey sgclark, how are you?
[08:27] <sgclark> can't sleep, it is actually late night here :(
[08:28] <lordievader> Hmmm :(
[08:46] <valorie> sgclark: if only you were in munich helping them with that plum vodka
[08:46] <sgclark> hehe I know!
[09:01] <yofel> We'll see how far we'll get with that ^^
[09:41] <Riddell> hola
[09:42] <sgclark> hiyas
[09:42] <lordievader> o/
[09:42] <ovidiu-florin> We Have ȚUICĂ for anyone who wants in the lobby :D
[09:50] <Riddell> it's not for breakfast!
[10:12] <Riddell> valorie: awake?
[10:12] <Riddell> valorie: did anyone bring the qca issue to you?
[10:12] <valorie> yup
[10:12] <valorie> yes
[10:12] <valorie> Martin wrote to me
[10:12] <valorie> and Lydia has now read it, so we are on the case
[10:13] <valorie> PM if you want to know more
[10:16] <Riddell> great
[10:53] <JackWolfSkin_> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9169920/
[10:57] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: http://paste.kde.org/pmzibhget
[10:58] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: actually, better http://paste.ubuntu.com/9169984/
[10:58] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9170003/
[10:59] <shadeslayer> yofel: ^^
[11:07] <shadeslayer> sgclark: you just got volunteered to package qca
[11:07] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: ^
[11:07] <sgclark> huh?
[11:10] <sgclark> dunno what that is.
[11:10] <shadeslayer> ask JackWolfSkin_
[11:11] <sgclark> well, I need sleep soon, 3am and I have not been able to sleep at all tonight :(
[11:13] <JackWolfSkin_> pft
[11:13] <JackWolfSkin_> it's mighty complicated bullshit anyway
[11:13] <JackWolfSkin_> gives me a headache
[11:14] <sgclark> well that certainly does not sound like a good task for someone suffering from insomnia heh
[11:14] <sgclark> I will stick to my merges, thanks lol
[11:45] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[11:45] <sgclark> hiiyas
[11:57] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: do you have any photos?
[11:57] <Riddell> I want to blog
[12:00] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[12:00] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: where?
[12:00] <ovidiu-florin> one moment
[12:04] <ovidiu-florin> https://apollo.geekaliens.com:8001/public.php?service=files&t=b91dfb35065c1c3aaa96841efb38cd9a upload photos please, use the WiFi password
[12:30]  * Riddell publishes http://jriddell.org/2014/11/22/blog-move-bug-squashing-party-in-munich/
[12:35] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: inoticoming
[12:39] <JackWolfSkin_> shadeslayer: inotifywatch maybe
[12:44] <Riddell> 12:34 < bcooksley> in short: what you want to do is possible only with D7 / Wordpress, and you'll have to configure it just right
[12:44] <Riddell> conclusion of ben about our new website
[13:00] <soee_> im not sure what is teh topic, but i never agree with: possible only with D7 / Wordpress ?
[13:02] <soee_> btw there is somethin wrong with konversation, it does not highlight channel when new messages are posteed
[13:58] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: http://paste.kde.org/p2k8xqfm2
[13:58] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: gets triggered even when the file hasn't been fully written
[13:58] <shadeslayer> I: Processing calamares_0+git20141120.71_amd64.changes.tmp.1416664643.502511978.28002.2144120825
[14:15] <JackWolfSkin_> ubottu: find sys/filio.h
[14:16] <JackWolfSkin_> ubottu: ping
[14:16] <JackWolfSkin_> y u hate me?
[14:20] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: because you have a silly nickname
[14:20] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: fu
[14:23] <JackWolfSkin_> YOFEL BROKE ALL THE CI
[14:23] <yofel> \o/
[14:23] <yofel> git is weird
[14:23] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: I need a whiteboard  to talk about kci
[14:27] <Riddell> you'd need to kick the akonadi people out their room
[14:28] <JackWolfSkin_> why is dan not in this channel here
[14:29] <BluesKaj> maybe akonadi can be wrtitten out of kubuntu as a default altogether, now there's a thought :)
[14:30] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: because he's a red hat man?
[14:30] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: they are using the board right now dan said
[14:30] <BluesKaj> make it an option in the repos
[14:30] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: so, I used to hang out in fedora-kde
[14:31] <BluesKaj> or repackage akonadi as an available package 
[14:33] <Riddell> BluesKaj: akonadi is due to be rewritten so it's not a separate server anyway
[14:33] <Riddell> don't you read my blog post which I published over an hour ago?!
[14:33] <JackWolfSkin_> !
[14:33] <yofel> <- fixed the ci
[14:34] <JackWolfSkin_> ci so slo
[14:35] <Riddell> not as slow as compiling libreoffice
[14:35] <JackWolfSkin_> needs more cores and ssd
[14:35] <JackWolfSkin_> problem solved
[14:36] <Riddell> I have ssd and icecream
[14:36] <JackWolfSkin_> needs moar ramz then
[14:36] <soee_> i think i china there is now most powerful pc
[14:36] <JackWolfSkin_> actually depending on unit size icecream might actually be counterproductive
[14:51] <yofel> Riddell: hm, just found this in kanagram:
[14:51] <yofel> Maintainer: Debian/Ubuntu Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>
[14:51] <yofel> X-Ubuntu-Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>
[14:52] <yofel> any idea who invented that?
[14:52] <Riddell> nope
[14:52] <Riddell> best fix it
[14:52] <yofel> ack
[14:59] <JackWolfSkin_> yofel: btw http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/ci-tooling.git/tree/lib/lp.rb :P
[15:01] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did you see we missed this last weekend? http://blogs.fsfe.org/rcarreras/?p=155
[15:01] <shadeslayer> :O
[15:01] <shadeslayer> boo
[15:07] <Riddell> but RMS on Wednesday :)
[15:24] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:24] <shadeslayer> not really interested tbh
[15:24] <shadeslayer> but meh
[15:28] <Riddell> "join us now and share the sofware..."
[15:31] <yofel> why for Bavaria's sake do we have a phonon4qt5 package that has phonon4qt5experimental split out but doesn't actually work without it?!? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9174381/
[15:31] <yofel> or am I reading this wrong o.O?
[15:33] <Riddell> why does phonon4qt5experimental exist at all?
[15:33] <Riddell> blame the phonon maintainer
[15:34] <JackWolfSkin_> shadeslayer: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon5/orchestration/view/head:/bot/upstart/neonbot.conf
[15:56]  * Sick_Rimmit appears with a flash...
[16:20] <Riddell> o
[16:21] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: coming to fosdem?
[16:21] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: It's not definite, but I think it is very likely.
[16:21] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: talks being accepted now :)
[16:21] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I would really like to, be a chance to hang out with some of the Kubuntu gang
[16:22] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I like talking :-)
[16:22] <Riddell> it's a pretty intense event
[16:22] <Sick_Rimmit> I don't know too much about it really.. 
[16:23] <Sick_Rimmit> I probably ought to, but having never been I never looked up to find out what I was missing
[16:23] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm going to test the water with the AtRandom gang, see if they're up for it
[16:23] <Riddell> it starts off with lots of beer
[16:23] <Riddell> continues the next day with about 3 keynote rooms and about 30 dev rooms
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> Right, excellent
[16:24] <Riddell> followed by more beer
[16:24] <Riddell> followed by lots more dev rooms, and stalls
[16:24] <Riddell> we'll need lots of help on the stall
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I'm getting to old for all that Beer, I can't handle the following day
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> :-(
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> or that day after that
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> :-(
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> sometimes, even the day after that
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> lol 
[16:24] <Sick_Rimmit> :-)
[16:25] <Riddell> me too, I have to leave early usually and take taxis around the place
[16:25] <Riddell> the good news is the ubuntu community fund will pay for a decent hotel
[16:25] <yofel> hm... If I would try to go I would need to get there friday evening and leave sunday afternoon (and get some ~200€ for the train ticket)
[16:26] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I think I can get there on the Train from Exeter, via the EuroStar, which works out well
[16:26] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Do you mean the Ubuntu fund would pay for my accomodation /
[16:27] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I wanted to ask about something else
[16:27] <Sick_Rimmit> I run the ExeterLUG.. 
[16:27] <Sick_Rimmit> Next month I am going to be focusing them on Kubuntu Bug Fixing, and Development, and how to get involved
[16:28] <Sick_Rimmit> Wondering if we could get one of the other members of Kubuntu-devel to join us via Hangout, and do a short presentation on How to get involved
[16:28] <Sick_Rimmit> My cunning plan is to then sign them all up to launchpad, and the Kubuntu mailing list ;-)
[16:30] <Sick_Rimmit> It's on Friday 12th December in the evening, would be 8pm GMT, 9PM CET 
[16:31] <JackWolfSkin_> has anyone seen my pants?
[16:32] <Sick_Rimmit> Er no, perhaps you could pastebin a copy ?
[16:33] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: I expect they're under your trousers?
[16:33] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: yes ubuntu fund is there from donations that need to be used up so just say you're into kubuntu
[16:33] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: I guess it would help if you became a kubuntu member but otherwise I can just apply for you
[16:34] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I thought I was a Kubuntu Member, I am on Launchpad, and I even have me own business cards :-)
[16:35] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: nope, it's a bit more formal than that, see https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#.7Ekubuntu-members
[16:35] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: If I am not a Kubuntu member I would like to get that sorted
[16:36] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: have you made a significant and sustained contribution to kubuntu?
[16:37] <Sick_Rimmit> I like to think so, I have been involved for 4 or 5 years
[16:37] <Sick_Rimmit> I know I'm still getting my head around packaging...
[16:37] <Riddell> doing stuff like getting your whole lug to switch to kubuntu and become contributors is definately significant :)
[16:38] <Sick_Rimmit> Of course If I am compared to scarlet well then I'm rubbish
[16:38] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: yes I should be free that day says my calendar
[16:38] <Riddell> we're all rubbish compared to scarlett
[16:38] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Can I book you for that Hangout for the LUG on the 12th ?
[16:40] <Sick_Rimmit> I deployed Kubuntu on LTSP across 4 sites, interconnected via WAN with KDE on the desktop, and OpenOffice training etc.. etc..
[16:40] <Sick_Rimmit> Google Rick Timmis Super Tramp 
[16:40] <Riddell> sounds like a +1 fro me
[16:40] <Sick_Rimmit> That was another KDE deployment
[16:40] <yofel> make a wiki page about you that lists all that and I think we'll manage to get you in ;)
[16:40] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: you'd need to organise a meeting of the kubuntu council, start a doodle poll with some days/time and send it out
[16:41] <yofel> Sick_Rimmit: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Membership
[16:42] <Sick_Rimmit> OK I will look at the stuff on kde.org, and get it sorted
[16:43] <Riddell> great :)
[16:51] <Riddell> KDE file dialog working again in libreoffice!
[16:51] <Sick_Rimmit> OK, I see what needs to be done. I'll get on to that, I am in the process of rebuilding my website, so I put up a Kubuntu section, add it all to that and then organise a Council meeting
[16:51] <yofel> Riddell++
[16:55] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: ooh did you see my remade website?
[16:56] <Sick_Rimmit> No where is it too
[16:56] <Riddell> jriddell.org
[16:56] <Riddell> wordpress
[16:56] <Riddell> can you test comments are working?
[16:57] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: did you see the comment on facebook about the video with you in it?  "bit of a shoreditch beard" 
[16:58] <Sick_Rimmit> No don't do facebook,
[16:58] <Riddell> a holdout
[16:58] <Sick_Rimmit> I sure will test your comments on your site
[16:59] <Sick_Rimmit> Going to have to go again now, my Girls want me to watch Xmas movie with them :-)
[16:59] <Sick_Rimmit> ttfn
[16:59] <Riddell> tell them it's november
[16:59] <Sick_Rimmit> lol
[17:01] <Sick_Rimmit> Alison ( my wife ) said to tell you, It's only 5 weeks to go, best you get off up the town shopping ;-)
[17:02] <Riddell> fortunatly us Catalans don't exchange presents until the coming of el tres reyes on jan 6th
[17:02] <Riddell> means we can buy stuff in the january sales :)
[17:05] <Sick_Rimmit> My wife's a Devonian, she too buys the presents in the January sales, and keeps it all in my Office !! Grrrr
[17:05] <Sick_Rimmit> right, I really got to go..
[17:05] <Sick_Rimmit> See you all later
[17:08] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: why does 14.10 still have cards?
[17:10] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: turns out we're not pefect and didn't get everything done
[17:43] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_, shadeslayer: run icecream!
[17:43] <JackWolfSkin_> go eat my shoe
[17:44] <shadeslayer> %
[17:44] <shadeslayer> ^
[17:45] <shadeslayer> I ain't running no icecream
[17:46] <lordievader> You guys are making me hungry for icecream.... XD
[17:54] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9177077/
[17:57] <JackWolfSkin_> HAI GUIS I JUST UPLOADED KCM WHOOPSIE MAKE SURE IT BUILDS KTHXBAI
[18:08] <soee> :)
[18:57] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: google: oh my zsh
[18:58] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: actually google: powerline might give similar results
[19:27] <shadeslayer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/56369
[19:27] <yofel> how dare they say that! :D
[19:32] <Riddell> oh my god
[19:32] <Riddell> libreoffice compiled
[19:32] <Riddell> and my patch worked
[19:33] <yofel> \o/
[19:40]  * ScottK has to say that Harald is looking very serious for Harald in his photo on jr's blog.
[19:42] <yofel> yes, that was due to him pretending that he's a non-alcoholic
[19:44] <lordievader> Hooray
[19:48] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: deleted
[19:51] <JackWolfSkin_> yofel: pretending Oo
[19:52] <Riddell> to be fair, he hasn't had any alcohol since getting to Bavaria so maybe he really isn't an alcoholic
[19:54] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: dantti is going to make my kubuntu-driver-manager upload ftbfs :'<
[19:54] <Riddell> oh?
[19:55] <JackWolfSkin_> no debconf-kde release => no qapt release => missing dep
[19:59] <soee> a raw concept of a Develoeprs section (without any styling yet etc.) http://kubuntu.dev.soee.pl/
[20:00] <soee> maybe ill skip the text under profile, and the small circle image on the thumb is a placeholder for falg
[20:00] <soee> *flag
[20:02] <yofel> so, is a tagging pattern like "ubuntu/4%4.14.3-0ubuntu1" something we can agree on for debian git?
[20:02] <yofel> maxy didn't mind
[20:02] <yofel> (the % is the : from the epoch, dunno why gbp replaces that)
[20:03] <yofel> that's with: git-buildpackage --git-ignore-branch --git-tag-only --git-sign-tags --git-debian-tag='ubuntu/%(version)s'
[20:04] <ScottK> yofel: ":" isn't legal in a git tag
[20:04] <yofel> ok, I thought as much
[20:04] <yofel> sadly debcommit hardcodes "debian/%s", so we can't use that for tagging
[20:14] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: want to go and buy me a beer?
[20:26] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: huh?
[20:29] <JackWolfSkin_> ehm
[20:29] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell, shadeslayer, yofel: why does kubuntu have an outdated about-distro?
[20:30] <Noskcaj> Is anyone working on the libinfinity 0.6 transition? (kte-collaborative and libqinfinity need work)
[20:31] <yofel> JackWolfSkin_: I think the issue came up, everyone was confused about the implementation and forgot about it
[20:31] <JackWolfSkin_> what?
[20:31] <Riddell> JackWolfSkin_: because you haven't bought me a beer yet?
[20:31] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: that was in jul you bastard
[20:32] <Riddell> 1.50+git20140731.1
[20:32] <Riddell> what's the current version?
[20:33] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: 1.1
[20:33] <Riddell> well 1.50 sounds newer then
[20:33] <JackWolfSkin_> Riddell: that's only in next?
[20:34] <Riddell> oh I've not synced everything from next to archive yet
[20:34] <Riddell> feel free to do so
[20:35] <JackWolfSkin_> that snapshot has no l10n
[20:40] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: idk, probably apachelogger's fault
[20:40] <JackWolfSkin_> bastard
[21:03] <ScottK> yofel: debcommit should be fixed. 
[21:06] <Noskcaj> kte-collaborative and libqinfinity will both need git snapshots for the new libinfinity
[21:10] <yofel> ScottK: debian #708201
[21:13] <JackWolfSkin_> Noskcaj: more like needs releases 
[21:13] <Noskcaj> JackWolfSkin_, That would also work
[21:14] <yofel> just nag scummos for a kte-coll. release
[21:26] <shadeslayer> someone rewrite debcommit in ruby plz
[21:26]  * ScottK votes for Haskell. 
[21:29] <yofel> debian seems to like ocaml
[21:32] <Riddell> yofel: allee: shadeslayer, JackWolfSkin_: who's around on monday want to go to http://hintquest.com/en/ ?
[21:32] <yofel> not me
[21:32] <shadeslayer> I have a flight at 10
[21:32] <ScottK> Ocaml would work too. 
[21:32] <JackWolfSkin_> I have a train at 12
[21:33] <Riddell> or how about the surf wave? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXxSNUKp_Xw
[21:35] <allee> The suffers are cool.   If you have not seen it.  Try.
[21:36] <allee> On Monday I've several meetings at work and dancing lessions in the evening :-(
[21:59] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: this paint stripped in delicious
[21:59] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: this paint stripper in delicious
[22:02] <shadeslayer> ^^
[22:02] <shadeslayer> is
[22:04] <Riddell> kubotu!
[22:05] <Riddell> awooga
[22:05] <JackWolfSkin_> LAWL
[22:05] <yofel> whaaaaaa
[22:07] <yofel> kubotu: have a cookie
[22:09] <Riddell> soee: today's image boots into plasma 5
[22:09] <Riddell> lordievader: ↑
[22:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: https://github.com/shadeslayer/static-generator/blob/master/generate_html.rb
[22:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: so much better :P
[22:13] <shadeslayer> actually
[22:13] <shadeslayer> I need to push a patch there
[22:13] <JackWolfSkin_> patches are evil.
[22:13] <shadeslayer> not if they're in ruby
[22:16] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: ping
[22:23] <soee> ;o
[22:25] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: paint stripper, Riddell got a stripper that paints clearly
[22:26] <shadeslayer> making good use of the Ubuntu funds
[22:26] <shadeslayer> :P