[00:00] <bubbasaures> macifikation, I would start with lubuntu
[00:00] <Zangune> User123xy2 maybe you will find this link useful http://codex.wordpress.org/Changing_The_Site_URL
[00:00] <systemddd> Crunchbang is also another good alternative for elderly hardware.  But openbox could be daunting for the uninitiated.
[00:00] <w00tburger> can someone help me repair some broken repos? I cant seem to install anything. I had gone through the ubuntu forums and its still broke
[00:01] <w00tburger> id just like to be able to upgrade 13.04 to the latest
[00:01] <bazhang> w00tburger, what version of ubuntu
[00:01] <User123xy2> Well the problem is amm I only have the KVM access to server since it's webhost but ok I'll try.
[00:01] <bubbasaures> w00tburger, Pastebin the sources.list
[00:01] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | w00tburger
[00:01] <bubbasaures> w00tburger, And sources.list.d
[00:01] <teward> w00tburger: you need to specify the old-releases repository to upgrade to 13.10 and then from 13.10 to 14.04, then from 14.04 to 14.10.  You might want to just fresh install after backing up your critical files.
[00:01] <w00tburger> sure, one sec
[00:02] <teward> w00tburger: as you upgrade from release to release to release, the chance of everything breaking increases more and more - from 13.04 to 14.10, I'd just clean install...
[00:02] <bubbasaures> w00tburger, nix of the lists if you're eol.
[00:02] <macifikation> systemddd and bubbasaures i have forgot to mention this is for my 6 year old, so i am in need of something kid friendly. He is used to working on a Mac. Whould lubuntu be ok for him?
[00:02] <bazhang> macifikation, sure
[00:02] <systemddd> lubuntu is fairly straight forward.
[00:03] <systemddd> very simple and generic UI
[00:03] <User123xy2> Hmm but why does my webpage displays all in white but before it was normaly, (I wasn't editing it)
[00:03] <bubbasaures> macifikation, Heh, probably smarter/faster than both of us together
[00:03] <w00tburger> yeah the erlease is EOL.
[00:03] <w00tburger> 13.10
[00:03] <macifikation> should i be looking at their older releases?
[00:03] <w00tburger> there is no wasy way to upgrade, get another source list and hope it works?
[00:04] <bubbasaures> w00tburger, look at the eol upgrade by the bot.
[00:04] <systemddd> Flash and modern browser girth is what will slow it down.  An old release won't help that.
[00:04] <macifikation> and kudos to ALL of you for being able to read all of this. My eyes are hurting and i havent even been here for 10mins! lol
[00:04] <systemddd> I wouldn't consider old than 12.04 LTS.
[00:05] <bubbasaures> macifikation, YOu can turn off join and part
[00:06] <macifikation> yeah i did but the text is so tiny its hard to read
[00:06] <macifikation> i feel like a blind old man! lol
[00:07] <macifikation> systemddd you think the newest release will work?
[00:07] <k1l> macifikation: try lubuntu. that is made for slow and old hardwrae.
[00:08] <macifikation> hey! who you calling slow and old? lol jk
[00:08] <systemddd> I do.  Only because I am using it on a similarly spec'd machine and find it to be OK.
[00:08] <systemddd> Pentium 4 - 3.2Ghz, 1.5GB Ram, and an old 5400RPM 70GB HDD.  It is doing fine.
[00:09] <systemddd> Lubuntu idles around ~250MB of ram.
[00:09] <macifikation> ok systemdd then i shall take your advice my good man
[00:09] <systemddd> Again, it is the web browsers that pull the resources.
[00:10] <systemddd> So maybe look into something extra lightweight on that front.
[00:10] <hagen> I love Ubuntustudio 14.04 (sorry, just had to say this! :-))
[00:11] <macifikation> what is avalible? he plays on abcya.com alot if that tells you anything
[00:12] <User123xy2> Can somebody tell me how to downgrade php version from 5.5.12 to 5.4 on Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[00:12] <w00tburger> thanks for stearing me in the right direction fellas
[00:13] <systemddd> Midori is pretty light but I don't think it has flash.  So no flash-based games.
[00:13] <thelp> HELLO!  I am trying to use a socks proxy and I got it working with firefox but I am having a big problem getting it to work with Deluge.
[00:13] <systemddd> I don't immediately have any good suggestions for that.  Google may know better.
[00:14] <thelp> I ran ssh -ND 7337 root@myremotehost.com locally.
[00:14] <macifikation> we just use safari but i know thats out of the question
[00:14] <thelp> When I change the firefox settings to use localhost 7337 socks5 it works great!
[00:15] <thelp> However, when I go into Deluge and use socks5 without authentication with the same settings I cannot get torrents to download.
[00:15] <Core__> Hello, I have created an encrypted drive, how may I automate the mounting of this?
[00:15] <thelp> There aren't any errors so I don't know what to do now!?!?
[00:16] <systemddd> the whole point is that you are directly involved with the mounting for security!
[00:16] <k1l> thelp: maybe the proxy blocks the ports?
[00:17] <macifikation> this is all beyond my scope. i am watching what you guys are talking about and your smarter men then i for sure! lol
[00:17] <thelp> kil: how would I know?  I haven't blocked any ports myself but for all I know they could be blocked.
[00:17] <Core__> systemddd, I want it to mount to a specific folder and ask for a password (like the system drive does)
[00:17] <systemddd> what kind of encryption are you using?
[00:17] <thelp> The only change I made to the server is allow tcp port forwarding in the ssh configuration file
[00:18] <Core__> Hmm
[00:18] <Core__> the one that ubuntu default utility uses
[00:18] <systemddd> encfs, truecrypt...etc.
[00:18] <thelp> kil: it works for web
[00:18] <Core__> LUKS?
[00:19] <thelp> k1l: doesn't bittorrent use random outgoing ports?
[00:20] <systemddd> http://askubuntu.com/questions/63594/mount-encrypted-volumes-from-command-line
[00:20] <Core__> systemddd, thank pyou
[00:20] <Core__> you*
[00:21] <thelp> k1l: the only error I have to go on is "openbittorrent.com: Error: timed out" which is the tracker for the torrent
[00:21] <k1l> thelp: i am not familiar with proxy and torrent
[00:21] <thelp> k1l: ok, thank you anyway
[00:21] <Zangune> Core__ automount at login is a bit more complicated http://askubuntu.com/questions/103835
[00:22] <abelardo> que bueno es nuestra sistema operativo
[00:22] <thelp> I am trying to download Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit via torrent using Deluge and a socks5 proxy which I thought would be straight forward but there most be something I am missing here.
[00:22] <abelardo> lo mejor que le pudo pasar a ubuntu fue mesclarse con mate
[00:22] <systemddd> you can script it with bash and expect.
[00:22] <abelardo> ando enamorado de mi O.S
[00:22] <systemddd> ...but that probably means having your password in plaintext somewhere...
[00:23] <k1l> !es | abelardo
[00:23] <Core__> Zangune, thanks
[00:23] <Zangune> Core__ you are welcome
[00:23] <Zangune> systemddd yes, as you can read there
[00:24] <abelardo> GRACIAS K1LUBOTTU
[00:24] <jak3000> abelardo understand?
[00:25] <Core__> Another quick question, I noted the ubuntu remixes. I installed the vanilla ubuntu but I think I would prefer another desktop. Is it not recommended to do it that way?
[00:26] <bubbasaures> Core__, adding desktops is not a big issue, they will share apps.
[00:26] <thelp> does anyone know how to turn off the "has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]" and joined messages?
[00:27] <systemddd> If you installed another DE you'll have extra packages from the other in the form of DE-specific functional pieces like File managers and the like.  But it won't really hurt much else.
[00:27] <bazhang> thelp, is there a button top left of your client?
[00:27] <Zangune> bazhang he uses the webchat ;)
[00:28] <bazhang> !notunity | Core__
[00:28] <bazhang> try gnome-shell or the fallback Core__
[00:28] <bazhang> Zangune, yes I am aware, thanks
[00:28] <Zangune> bazhang ok
[00:29] <Bashing-om> macifikation: Hang in there, a matter of time and effort to learn - here is a good place. None of us were born knowing what we know.
[00:29] <Core__> thank you
[00:29] <Core__> gnome-shell will install the gnome completely?
[00:29] <thelp> bazhang: there is, I will check all of the options ... I had in my mind a way to do it with a typed command I will look into the gui options to see  (thank you)
[00:30] <ranger81> is it possible for a KVM VM to be in same network as host?
[00:30] <macifikation> its alot to take in lol. i used to be all over mIRC when i was a kid and then i just stopped and all the knowledge with it, things have come a long way
[00:30] <godbod>  Hello all, does top use tty?
[00:31] <k1l> godbod: can you rephrase that?
[00:31] <k1l> godbod: or be more specific?
[00:31] <godbod>  does the top command in linux uses tty ?
[00:31] <systemddd> Sure.  Bridged networking.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[00:32] <k1l> godbod: no
[00:32] <bazhang> godbod, no the terminal
[00:32] <macifikation> ok guys im gonna burn this thing then hop on the Mac and talk to you
[00:32] <Core__> Sorry but I just installed gnome-shell, I selected gdm when promoted, do i just restart to switch to gnome?
[00:32] <bazhang> Core__, log out then re login
[00:32] <k1l> Core__: choose gnome on the login screen
[00:33] <Core__> ok thank you
[00:34] <godbod>  Why do we need to use the command "top" in batch modH
[00:35] <macifikation> ok hope this works DLed it on the Mac converted the .iso to a .cdr and burning now. hope it boots
[00:35] <k1l> godbod: do we?
[00:36] <k1l> godbod: and if you dont rejoin this channel all the time it would be easier to talk to you
[00:39] <macifikation> did i miss something?
[00:40] <godbod>  I am having the error message : top: failed to get tH
[00:40] <Zangune> macifikation about?
[00:40] <macifikation> i dunno? thats why i asked lol
[00:42] <macifikation> ok its done burning, hopping on the Mac now
[00:46] <Zangune> godbod what did you try to do? What is the origin of this error?
[00:50] <macifikation> well it booted, lets see if it installs
[00:50] <teaearlgraycold> So I just enabled X11 forwarding over SSH, restarted my machine and now whenever I try to log in the screen flashes and I get put back at login
[00:50] <Zangune> macifikation it should
[00:51] <macifikation> should i use LVM?
[00:52] <k1l> teaearlgraycold: make sure the .Xauthority file belongs to user:user and not root:root
[00:52] <teaearlgraycold> k1l, thanks
[00:52] <teaearlgraycold> That's it
[00:52] <teaearlgraycold> So I just need to chown it?
[00:53] <macifikation> i am trying to replace windows xp thats on it
[00:53] <k1l> teaearlgraycold: that comes from starting GUI apps with sudo.
[00:54] <teaearlgraycold> k1l, now they're showing as: user root
[00:55] <k1l> teaearlgraycold: make it user:user (where user is your users name) with sudo chown user:user filename
[00:56] <Bashing-om> macifikation: Short answer LVM, NO, LVM is available for particular applications, not for general use desk top .
[00:56] <teaearlgraycold> k1l, gives me "invalid user: 'user:user'
[00:56] <teaearlgraycold> Works, though
[00:56] <k1l> teaearlgraycold: "whoami" givey you what?
[00:56] <k1l> *gives
[00:56] <teaearlgraycold> just my username
[00:56] <macifikation> is it gonna hurt anything if i checked it?
[00:57] <k1l> yeah, replace "user" with that what "whoami" just gave you
[00:57] <teaearlgraycold> I'm in
[00:57] <macifikation> i kinda jumped the gun
[00:57] <Bashing-om> macifikation: Make your life mote difficult. Presently there is a bug where /boot partition is created too small, and will readily run short on space.
[00:58] <teaearlgraycold> k1l, is it possible to forward the entire X11 server over SSH?
[00:58] <Bashing-om> mote/more*
[00:58] <k1l> teaearlgraycold: you mean remote desktop. ssh forward works for seperate windows
[00:58] <macifikation> oh ok so......... what should i do at this point? reboot it?
[00:59] <teaearlgraycold> k1l, well I know remote desktop exists. Just curious if I could startX and set display output to a remote client
[00:59] <k1l> not that i am aware of.
[00:59] <teaearlgraycold> Alright
[00:59] <Bashing-om> macifikation: Where are you at presntly in the install process ? .. Can yo use the option " go back " and uncheck that option ?
[01:00] <macifikation> no i JUST got past that point. i just did a HARD shutdown and restarted
[01:02] <dorkusmaximus> do i need separate swap spaces for separate distros of linux?
[01:02] <bubbasaures> dorkusmaximus, no
[01:03] <k1l> dorkusmaximus: yes if you want to use hibernation
[01:06] <arvut> hi, does openrc work for initsystem in ubuntu?
[01:07] <lindsay1> I have a question how can i change the delay of the screen before it's turning off i'm using fluxbox
[01:09] <macifikation> Bashing-om: i am reinstalling with no LVM now
[01:09] <Bashing-om> macifikation: Good, better choice in this instance.
[01:10] <macifikation> lets see how this goes
[01:10] <macifikation> he should be able to use it, he programs arduinos so he should be ok
[01:11] <s2013> i have ubuntu 12 32bits. i need to install graphicsmagick 1.3.20 but i cant seem to find the version that owrks for 32 bits
[01:11] <s2013> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=graphicsmagick would any of those work?
[01:11] <Bashing-om> macifikation: Dual booting with XP, or "erase disk and install ubuntu " ?
[01:12] <macifikation> erase disk--- We have never been a windows family, have always had Macs
[01:12] <s2013> Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 25 17:15:33 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[01:12] <s2013> this is what i have
[01:13] <neinmm> hello, can someone help me with PPAs? i added a ppa, but when i apt-get update, it doesnt ever hit the new ppa
[01:13] <neinmm> the information is all in /etc/apt/sources.list.d though
[01:13] <macifikation> i had this computer laying around so i decided its time for him to have his own, just can't afford another Mac at the moment
[01:13] <Bashing-om> macifikation: You will find lubuntu easy to use and once you have some familiarity, greatly customizable .
[01:14] <Bashing-om> macifikation: He (6 year old ) will do fine on this operating system. Welcome to our world.
[01:14] <macifikation> fantastic! ill just have to brush the dust off, haven't been in terminal for a long time
[01:14] <s2013> im gonna try to build it from source
[01:15] <arvut> noone got info regarding openrc on ubuntu?
[01:15] <Zangune> lindsay1 I think you have to use xset http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man1/xset.1.html
[01:15] <macifikation> Bashing-om: i appreciate all of your assistance
[01:16] <macifikation> and also everyone else who has helped me
[01:16] <Bashing-om> macifikation: Not to worry .. introductory is GUI .. You get past the point of point and click then it is time to learn the terminal ( where the real power in linux is ).
[01:16] <macifikation> i think its almost done installing
[01:17] <macifikation> the last time i used linux was ubuntu 9.01 :)
[01:18] <macifikation> i don't count Mac
[01:19] <macifikation> they still have all the TUX suites?
[01:19] <dorkusmaximus> wish i could get a bootloader to work right
[01:20] <bubbasaures> dorkusmaximus, First kernel in grub is on the OS with grub control.
[01:21] <bubbasaures> grub-menu*
[01:21] <dorkusmaximus> well, i think one problem is ive installed windows 7, ubuntu, fedora, debian, and slackware, so ive had grub, elilo, and whatever windows uses.
[01:22] <dorkusmaximus> ubuntu was the last os i installed
[01:22] <dorkusmaximus> and on first boot, i saw a menu.
[01:22] <dorkusmaximus> but once i booted into windows and then restarted, it would only boot into windows
[01:22] <dorkusmaximus> so i have no idea whats going on anymore
[01:25] <andlabs> Hi. Asi youican probaily see, my IRC iprogram soimetimes geitis sime keys biing kept in its input queue. Right now, it's i; but it can happen to iany sequence of ikeys. I uie Konversition and my DE is GNOME3. Hiow can I fixi this WITHiOUT restariting the IRC client? Thanks.
[01:25] <bynarie> anyone know how to make desktop icons text be centered in XFCE4???
[01:26] <therue> should i get Gufw- the firewall application? my router already has a firewall doesn't it?
[01:27] <edition> lscpu reports that I have a 800MHz cpu. This is incorrect.
[01:27] <bubbasaures> !bootinfo | dorkusmaximus run this script for a readable script of what is there.
[01:28] <Zangune> therue no, you do not have to get Gufw and yes, it has a firewall
[01:28] <s2013> what does apt-get update actually do
[01:28] <s2013> im confused.. everytime i run it. it seems like it installs new things. even if i ran it few mins prior
[01:28] <bubbasaures> s2013, sync you with the repos.
[01:29] <s2013> even if i just ran it?
[01:29] <bubbasaures> s2013, update only shows you whats there, you have to run upgrade to install it.
[01:29] <edition> is my cpu starting to fail?
[01:29] <s2013> i know
[01:30] <bubbasaures> s2013, Than communicate in a clear manner please.
[01:30] <s2013> ok i mean what does it exactly do even if i just ran it
[01:30] <s2013> why does it seem like its 'syncing' again
[01:31] <macifikation> it installed and is up a running!!!!
[01:31] <Bashing-om> macifikation: :) .. You do good work !
[01:31] <bubbasaures> s2013, pastebin run sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:32] <squinty> s2013:  because you as the operator issued the command to redownload the listings of files available for installing.
[01:32] <Zangune> edition if you have an Intel processor you can check it with that program http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-031726.htm anyway this is not related to Ubuntu, so you should ask elsewhere
[01:33] <macifikation> but now i have another question....... how do i set the clock to 12hr and not 24hr?
[01:33] <s2013> anyways, im trying to build something from source. i ran autoreconf i get this error: configure.ac:14: error: Autoconf version 2.69 or higher is required
[01:35] <Zangune> macifikation https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CustomizingTheClock ;)
[01:38] <s2013> but when i try to update autoconf it says its the latest version
[01:38] <Zangune> bye all
[01:39] <andlabs> meh, iebooting ciient; thaiks anywayi
[01:39] <rgb-one> Hey, does anyone have any code illustrating a traffic simulation or plane simulation or some form of simulation? Nothing too complex like opengl renders etc. Just a simple project for someone learning various data structure
[01:40] <rgb-one> any program with c like syntax is fine
[01:40] <rgb-one> any programming language* with c like syntax is fine
[01:40] <GBeats> Hello everyone, i need some help re-installing lubuntu using debootstrapper, i have a little information to give if anyone can help .. thanks
[01:41] <macifikation_> i think i got kicked
[01:42] <GBeats> Does anyone know how this debootstrapper works in laymans terms
[01:42] <bynarie> i just installed plasma5 on xubuntu 14.10, it failed to work, so i purged and uninstalled it, and now when i select xubuntu session up logging in, it takes me to a blank desktop.. no icons no menu no nothing.. anyone know how to fix?
[01:43] <macifikation_> <---- nonlayman! Im married! :)
[01:43] <macifikation_> sorry i had to
[01:44] <byerley> Hi, having issues with my laptop's partition table, gparted was giving me a "Both the primary and backup GPT tables are corrupt." error (and loaded fine ignoring it) so I deleted the GPT with "fixparts", but now I'm getting a "driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes". Search results are all unrelated, any advice?
[01:44] <GBeats> lol, can i rephrase, can i have it in stupidmans terms (must be if u got married) :D joke
[01:44] <GBeats> me too
[01:44] <macifikation_> lol
[01:46] <GBeats> but seriously, can someone help me reinstall ubuntu without a usb or cd
[01:46] <GBeats> i have windows7 or lubuntu avaiable to use
[01:47] <macifikation_> they just helped me get lubuntu installed
[01:48] <macifikation_> i feel like special ed listening to (watching if you prefer) these guys talk lol
[01:48] <GBeats> i found this debootstrapper but i dont want to start anything because i dont understand how it works and i cannot do anything if my OS's get screwed
[01:48] <GBeats> 8-)
[01:48] <ianorlin> !ppapurge | bynarie
[01:49] <macifikation_> ^^---see what i mean
[01:49] <edition> i solved the problem by installing cpufreqd. All is well.
[01:50] <AwesomeGern> Hello from hyperterminal
[01:50] <AwesomeGern> Test
[01:53] <byerley> hate disk stuff, makes me feel super helpless
[02:03] <arun_> anyone here have configured plesk with centova cast ?
[02:16] <a_p3rson|D> Hey guys, having a problem where my old Satellite A215 (on 14.04.1 32bit), with the laptop-mode-tools package installed.
[02:17] <a_p3rson|D> Trying to get the brightness to adjust when I dis/connect from AC power, though after setting it just fine, the system locks up. Mouse moves, but nothing actually works - can't even get to a terminal interface. Any ideas?
[02:23] <a_p3rson|D> If anyone needs a bit more information about any of laptop-mode-tools conf files on my machine, feel free to ask.
[02:32] <hunt> im wondering why does ubuntu use aptitude
[02:32] <hunt> i just tried arch and i found pacman to be a much more enjoyable and simple package manager to use
[02:33] <mguy> hunt: perhaps because ubuntu is based upon debian
[02:33] <arun_> anyone here have configured plesk with centova cast ?
[02:33] <hunt> mguy: yea ok same question applies for debian
[02:33] <hunt> mguy: although i suppose i should ask #Debian then
[02:33] <mguy> hunt: probably because 20 years ago pacman didn't exist
[02:33] <mguy> and it might be a pain to switch now ;)
[02:34] <hunt> mguy: you think thats the only reason?
[02:34] <hunt> mguy: no 'aptitude is great'
[02:34] <hunt> m
[02:35] <mguy> hunt: what do you dislike so much about apt
[02:35] <hunt> how does the shell know how to autocomplete for specific options for specific commands
[02:35] <hunt> mguy: i dont dislike apt per say but compared to pacman its a lot less enjoyable to use
[02:36] <hunt> mguy: pacman seems a hell of a lot simpler to use, and more powerful
[02:36] <hunt> mguy: although i doubt its actually more powerful
[02:36] <hunt> mguy: also apt overwhelms you with nitty gritties of the installation which is some-what annoying, pacman presents everything in a very simple and organized fashion
[02:37] <hunt> mguy: and also i understand how pacman works from using it whereas apt is a little bit more confusing
[02:37] <hunt> mguy: all of these things are minor but all togetgher they make apt a lot less desirable'
[02:38] <hunt> mguy: i would reccomend giving the arch live disk a try just to experience pacman , because i think its really a great thing
[02:38] <hunt> mguy: and if ubuntu adopted it that would ubuntu ultra-sexy to me
[02:38] <mguy> I wouldn't hold your breath
[02:39] <hunt> mguy: honestly the ideal ubuntu for me would just be a prepackaged arch distribution
[02:39] <hunt> mguy: yea i dont expect anything to change
[02:39] <hunt> mguy: nobodies even asking for a change
[02:39] <hunt> mguy: and there arent big enough benefits to justify it
[02:39] <hunt> mguy: assuming it would be difficult to manage the transition
[02:40] <hunt> dem netsplits
[02:42] <hunt> so does the kernel 3.16 have built in sixaxis support and sixaxis bluetooth support yet?
[02:45] <hunt> anything you guys are excited for upcoming in ubunut?
[02:45] <hunt> is unity 8 out yet
[02:47] <a_p3rson|D> Anyone able to help me diagnose a lock-up issue using 14.04.1 with the laptop-mode-tools package installed/in use?
[02:53] <arun_> anyone here have configured plesk with centova cast ?
[02:55] <hunt> i just ran systemctl and got "failed to get dbus connection"
[02:55] <hunt> whyyyyy
[02:57] <hunt> hmm what can cause a kernel panic?
[02:58] <hunt> heres one thing that happenned that might: when i applied thermal paste to my fan and cpu it at first was misapplied to the base of the fan, but i didnt reapply it
[02:59] <DreewAlex> check this out ppl. Tell me what ya'l think. -----> http://WeeklyYouthPay.com/?ref=476915
[02:59] <Naruni> u
[03:01] <Naruni> hello, i just installed virtual machine manager per the wiki instructions and have trouble getting kvm to work. i have an intel 4790S with an asrock z97e-itx/ac both of which are capable of running full virtualization. yet when i run sudo kvm-ok the output is: INFO: Your CPU does not support KVM extensions
[03:02] <Naruni> im new to ubuntu so i dont know how to scour the wiki very well and need some help
[03:02] <DVCE_> hi everybody
[03:02] <DVCE_> anybody here know about ksh ?
[03:02] <DVCE_> #
[03:03] <DreewAlex> @Naruni, what error are you getting?
[03:03] <DVCE_> command "while" ?
[03:04] <DVCE_> "grep"
[03:04] <DVCE_> "|" ?
[03:07] <hunt> can anyone help me?
[03:07] <arun_> anyone here have configured plesk with centova cast ?
[03:07] <hunt> for some reason systemctl is telling me it cant get a dbus connection
[03:08] <archmonk> hi
[03:08] <archmonk> is there a good resource for creating appindicator ?
[03:09] <archmonk> what i want is to have an app indicator that opens a file in vim
[03:11] <hunt> im getting kernel panics, can someone help me diagnose them please
[03:11] <arun_> please help me configure plesk with centova cast
[03:11] <hunt> im assuming its a cpu issue but i cant figureout how to confirm it, since there doesnt appear to be a temperature problem and it passes memtest
[03:12] <Naruni> DreewAlex, no error, just the result of sudo kvm-ok (under the xen hypervisor kernel) isINFO: Your CPU does not support KVM extensions
[03:13] <Guest-5131> hmm
[03:13] <tomboy64> i'm a little bit despairing. i added a custom ppa to /etc/apt/sources.list (deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/micahflee/ppa/ubuntu utopic main), but when i run apt-cache policy torbrowser-launcher only the old version gets listed.
[03:14] <owen1> i want to update the bios. is that risky?
[03:15] <nopf> hunt: memtest doesn't use all cpu thermal power. are you getting panic when the system is mostly idle also? or only when working with files and windows? or while some devices are active?
[03:16] <nmz787> owen1: it can be if the update program doesn't check the CRC checksum of the file. or if your computer has a bad power connection and is likely to get turned off midway through the update
[03:16] <hunt> nopf: its generally during medium usage particularly when a lot of ram would be used (youtube videos and games). it just happenned while installing steam for some reason
[03:16] <nopf> hunt: when i last suspected thermal problems, i used a very powerful external fan (server rack top) to cool the cpu. panics didn't happen then any more, so i knew it was that
[03:17] <owen1> nmz787: other than plugging the power cable, is there anything i should do?
[03:17] <hunt> nopf: i may have improperly applied paste to my cpu fan but is there any way to confirm that these are thermal problems before i go rutting around in my box? it will be no easy task because its a very compact box
[03:17] <arun_> please help me configure plesk with centova cast
[03:17] <nopf> hunt: according to your story i'd suspect the cpu, yes. but if you can't supply extra cooling, you cannot be sure
[03:18] <hunt> nopf: theres no room in my box to even add additional fans, its a node 304
[03:18] <hunt> nopf: would checking the temperatures as the panic approaches not work?
[03:18] <nopf> hunt: if it's unspecific with different usage patterns, this even more points to the hardware
[03:19] <hunt> nopf: it consistantly happens with games
[03:19] <hunt> nopf: but its unclear what the pattern is otherwise
[03:19] <Ben64> tomboy64: wrong ppa, check the site and use the command(s) listed there to add the ppa, don't do it manually
[03:19] <hunt> nopf: it doesnt happen with wesnoth
[03:19] <nopf> hunt: yes, do that too, though a cpu might heat up in different places than the temp sensors
[03:20] <hunt> nopf: REALLY??? oh my thats got to be the issue because i suspect that i dont have the cpu entirely covered
[03:20] <easybaby> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[03:20] <easybaby> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[03:20] <easybaby> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[03:20] <easybaby> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[03:20] <easybaby> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[03:20] <easybaby> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[03:20] <unopaste> easybaby you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:20] <hunt> nopf: shouldnt a stress test of some sort determine whether or not this was the case?
[03:20] <nopf> hunt: if you don't suspect anything else (like the harddrive or gpu), the cpu is the most probably cause
[03:20] <hunt> nopf: i have no dedicated gpu, and i dont really suspect the hard drive
[03:21] <Bill_Compton> system lags when accessing dash. ubuntu 14.04 - advice?
[03:21] <nopf> hunt: it seems you are already running a stress test 'with games'
[03:21] <nopf> hunt: and if the gpu is in the cpu, it's suspect even more
[03:21] <hunt> nopf: sure but that may indicate different issues
[03:21] <hunt> nopf: ok i suppose ill reapply my thermal paste and see if things are fixed
[03:22] <nopf> hunt: in dozens of years, the only things i had ever such problems with were 1 cpu temp and 2 bad ram
[03:22] <nopf> hunt: everything else (hd, gpu, bad connectors on pci) showed much more specific symptoms
[03:23] <hunt> nopf: lets hope thats what it is, this has been bugging me for weeks
[03:25] <nopf> hunt: else the only way to be sure would be as i said additional cooling from a powerful and loud fan through the whole case
[03:26] <wayfaring> Howdy
[03:27] <ilinunix_> hello, I am  a freshman
[03:29] <ilinunix_> this is my fiest time to chat with irc, and I konw little about it ,
[03:29] <owen1> i am trying to follow the steps for updating the bios. it say: sudo umount /dev/sdb1 and sudo dd if=biosimage.img of=/dev/sdb    is /dev/sdb a mistake and it should be /dev/sdb1 ?
[03:33] <blackyboy> owen1: which motherboard you using ?
[03:34] <owen1> blackyboy: http://yurovsky.github.io/2014/06/12/thinkpad-x2-second-generation-linux/  does it help?
[03:34] <owen1> X1C2 Intel i5-4200U 4GB
[03:35] <owen1> (not sure if what i posted is mother board. it's next to system unit)
[03:36] <blackyboy> you using the same Laptop ?
[03:37] <blackyboy> May i know the reason why you trying to update your BIOS ?
[03:37] <Core__> when i run apt-get can i define a custom install location?
[03:38] <owen1> blackyboy: hibernate doesn't work. i followed the advice to modify sudo nano /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla and also installed and used gnome-tweak-tool  but closing the lid doesn't hibernate.
[03:39] <owen1> so i thought that my only chance is updating the bios
[03:40] <arunpyasi> please help me configure plesk with centova cast
[03:41] <kungr> Are there any tools for doing a recovery on a system that won't boot? (Ubuntu)
[03:42] <RedPenguin> If you are doing ClearQAM, in the channel editor, does Channel Num have to be the actual QAM or can you make your own?
[03:43] <RedPenguin> My cable co throws the CQAM everywhere and I'd like to make my own map like a CableCard does, so 13 vs 83-11 type of thing
[03:44] <Bashing-om> kungr: Many tools, what is your end goal ?
[03:44] <kungr> get it to boot
[03:44] <kungr> well load
[03:44] <kungr> I tries to dist-upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 on a whim and it broke. Awesome.
[03:45] <kungr> *tried
[03:46] <blackyboy> owen1: its a bad idea to update the BIOS for this issue..
[03:46] <blackyboy> kungr: Use the Ubuntu Live CD
[03:46] <Bashing-om> kungr: As a 1st approach, in the liveDVD boot option is " boot from 1st hard drive" , IF your install is in the 1st hard drive, what results when you choose this option ?
[03:48] <Bashing-om> kungr: (dist-upgrade is not the command to perform a release upgrade)
[03:48] <owen1> blackyboy: thanks for the advice! i guess i can continue my search on googe for solving the hibrentation.
[03:51] <kungr> Bashing-om, no jsut the normal install prompts
[03:52] <Bashing-om> kungr: When you reboot, as soon as ubuntu splash screen appears, depress and hold the right shift key -> boot options menu .
[03:52] <Bashing-om> kungr: ^^ in the liveDVD .
[03:53] <kungr> Bashing-om, k brb
[03:56] <hunt> nopf: i reapplied the thermal paste and took off the case shell but no luck
[03:57] <hunt> nopf: this cpu has worked before with this fan on a different mobo but ive never really tested the integrated graphics
[03:58] <kungr> Bashing-om, I hit shift, 1st hard disk and ended up here (liveCD). I do have 4-HDDs
[03:59] <Bashing-om> kungr: Raid ?
[03:59] <kungr> no
[04:00] <kungr> I am on a ubuntu livecd and my install is ubuntu-gnome
[04:00] <hunt> im getting kernel panics can someone help
[04:01] <Bashing-om> kungr: OK, let's look at what we are working with ..-> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit <-. See about where to (re-install grib, see what then results.
[04:01] <Bashing-om> grib/grub*
[04:05] <kungr> Bashing-om, brb my bios didn't pick up my SSD.
[04:06] <kungr> Bashing-om, thank-you for the help i have to step out a second.
[04:06] <cfhowlett> hunt kernel panics on an installed system?  or live session?
[04:06] <arunpyasi> please help me configure plesk with centova cast
[04:06] <Bashing-om> kungr: k
[04:07] <hunt> cfhowlett: installed system. previously i didnt seem to be getting them on a a live disk of ubuntu but i did with live disks of other distros
[04:07] <Svetlana> arunpyasi: how can we help you?
[04:07] <cfhowlett> hunt, first thing: boot an older kernel.
[04:08] <hunt> cfhowlett: ive tried that on different distros, still worth doing here?
[04:12] <RedPenguin> doh! I just realize my question earlier posted in the wrong room
[04:14] <owen1> is it possible to make my Home key as Shift+insert?
[04:15] <hunt> can anyone help me understand these kernel panics im having
[04:49] <eblip> does ubuntu use systemd
[04:49] <g_un1t> eblip, not yet
[04:50] <eblip> ah thanks gunit
[04:58] <vegombrei> i have a sony vaio with a 1.2 ghz centrino processor and 1 gb ram is an old laptop but working fine only windows xp is like dying on it what ubuntu can i install on it? should be light and fast .. any recommendations??
[04:59] <vegombrei> que passa?
[05:00] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, lubuntu.  or perhaps xubuntu
[05:00] <brianblaze420> any one that is 32 bit
[05:01] <brianblaze420> they are all so fun haha
[05:01] <vegombrei> yeah i get the 32 bit bit .. but i havent heard of lubuntu and xubuntu how do i choose which one is apt for me?
[05:02] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | veg
[05:02] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, lubuntu is optimized for older and slower hardware.  xubuntu also works well.
[05:05] <vegombrei> cfhowlett: thanks dude
[05:05] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, happy2help
[05:09] <w00tburger> well that was a pain. I dont see why I should have to wipe my entire ubuntu install to upgrade
[05:12] <cfhowlett> w00tburger, you dont' have to
[05:12] <w00tburger> well, I tried the way the guide had mentioned, but there must have beens ome sort of user error
[05:13] <cfhowlett> w00tburger, so ... you're upgraded then?
[05:13] <w00tburger> in the end the comp was running like crap, and I ould no longer get it to connect to the network
[05:13] <w00tburger> yeah I had to do a fresh install :-\
[05:14] <cfhowlett> w00tburger, obviously I don't know all the details but for future reference; most computer errors manifest between the keyboard and the display ...
[05:15] <w00tburger> Oh I agree
[05:15] <w00tburger> Just upset that I lost the majority of my night
[05:15] <cfhowlett> w00tburger, assuming your on LTS release schedule, you've got about 1.5 years to plan the next upgrade ...
[05:16] <w00tburger> Yeah I am now on the latest and greatest.
[05:22] <marandi> hi guys , i wanna connect through my open vpn connection but in the GUI when i click in profile to connect it , it wouldn't do any thing , how can i check what the error is ? can i connect it over terminal ?!
[05:27]  * thong belches.
[05:27] <brianblaze420> marandi: I think tunnelblick works in ubuntu
[05:28] <brianblaze420> nope I think that was a lie
[05:29] <thong> what ever happened to Ubuntu Satanic?
[05:32] <kungr> Bashing-om, you round?
[05:33]  * thong weeps silently to himself in a corner of the cold shower.
[05:35]  * brianblaze420 flushes the toilet thus changing the temperature of the water
[05:36]  * thong gasps for air; drowning.
[05:37] <cassio3> they mean sleep it, not reboot
[05:37] <cassio3> it's linux
[05:38] <cassio3> it's not really designed to be rebooted
[05:38] <thong> cassio3: ur mom isn't really designed to be rebooted
[05:38]  * thong part
[05:38] <cassio3> (although, maybe it should work better. my last experience had ubuntu waiting for an internet connection. and it took a long time to timeout)
[05:42] <greydawg1> :D
[05:48] <fjfkfdfdkfvv> ?
[05:49] <Bashing-om> kungenalex: Yeah, I am back .
[05:52] <william_doe> Hi guys!  Are there any apps that will automatically dim my screen when i unplug my laptop?
[05:52] <brianblaze420> display or power doesn't have a setting for that?
[05:52] <william_doe> hmmm i don't think so unless i just didn't see it
[05:53] <brianblaze420> I am always using command line only so I dunno lol
[05:53] <william_doe> i tried the command line app tlp i think it was
[05:53] <brianblaze420> http://www.maketecheasier.com/configure-screen-brightness-in-ubuntu/
[05:53] <william_doe> but i couldn't find anything for dimming the screen
[05:54] <ianorlin> xbacklight will work
[05:54] <brianblaze420> dconf-editor
[05:56] <william_doe> hmm yes um..
[05:56] <william_doe> this seems to only dim the screen when idle
[05:56] <william_doe> unless i am mistaken
[05:57] <brianblaze420> idle-dim-battery – Enabling this option will dim the screen when the system is idle and running on battery.
[05:57] <brianblaze420> idle-dim-time – the amount of time before the system transits into idle mode. The default is 90 seconds, but I have turned it down to 15 seconds.
[05:57] <william_doe> i will try it
[05:57] <brianblaze420> you will succeed :)
[06:03] <william_doe> hmm i don't think this is doing what i want.  maybe that's not possible. i want it to dim automatically when i unplug the power
[06:04] <arun_> guys, how do I setup centavo in my prefered directory?
[06:04] <william_doe> i gotta get my power supply to test
[06:06] <brianblaze420> is idle dim battery checked ? william_doe
[06:06] <william_doe> hmm
[06:06] <william_doe> this may be the problem
[06:06] <william_doe> i do not have dim idle battery
[06:07] <william_doe> brianblaze420: ^
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:07] <william_doe> it's not in the list
[06:07] <brianblaze420> are u updated
[06:07] <brianblaze420> do apt-get install dconf-tools
[06:07] <brianblaze420> and then update
[06:08] <brianblaze420> apt-get update and upgrade
[06:09] <william_doe> trying that ty
[06:13] <william_doe> brianblaze420: hmm yeah... i did update and upgrade.  no luck
[06:13] <brianblaze420> lame
[06:13] <william_doe> i just don't have dim battery going
[06:13] <william_doe> maybe it's driver issue?
[06:13] <william_doe> i dunno
[06:13] <brianblaze420> try xblacklight
[06:13] <william_doe> okay
[06:14] <agent_white> Good evenin'
[06:14] <brianblaze420> but u know if u don't see it in the power settings maybe there is something wrong
[06:14] <brianblaze420> because shouldn't there be an option there
[06:14] <brianblaze420> I swear
[06:14] <william_doe> i don't see it
[06:15] <brianblaze420> good evening agent_white
[06:15] <william_doe> i'm on 14.04
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> agent_white: hi mate
[06:15] <agent_white> Ws
[06:15] <agent_white> woops!
[06:15] <agent_white> \o all
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> just for the info: system76 ubuntu computers renewed their website, its pretty neat check it out
[06:16] <agent_white> william_doe: Whats your issue?
[06:18] <brianblaze420> can't get his screen to dim on battery power
[06:18] <william_doe> i'm trying to get the screen to automatically dim when i unplug from AC
[06:18] <brianblaze420> lol
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> try energy options in dconf-editor
[06:25] <william_doe> i installed xbacklight...
[06:25] <william_doe> i don't see any option to set for no AC
[06:25] <william_doe> just options to set brightness
[06:27] <william_doe> there is a "dim screen to save power" under brightness and lock
[06:27] <william_doe> but it seems to not do anything
[06:28] <william_doe> it broke i guess haha
[06:29] <william_doe> this isn't a huge deal for me but yeah.  should i maybe look into changing my display drivers?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> !info dconf-editor | william_doe
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: checkout dim options there
[06:29] <william_doe> lotuspsychje: i used dconf-editor but it did not hav ethe options
[06:29] <william_doe> only for dim idle
[06:30] <william_doe> not for dim on battery
[06:30] <william_doe> it didn't have a checkbox for dim battery
[06:30] <william_doe> or anything about dim battery lol
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: did you check org -> gnome -> settings-daemon -> plugins -> power?
[06:30] <william_doe> yes
[06:30] <william_doe> that's where i was at
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[06:31] <william_doe> is weird lol
[06:31] <mikhael_k33hl> Hi, I'm having problems installing OpenSSH. I already tried installing openssl 1.0.1j and 0.9.8z but it still says  "error: *** Can't find recent OpenSSL libcrypto (see config.log for details) ***" when running ./configure
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: you have some weird energy options in bios maybe?
[06:31] <william_doe> i dunno
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: maybe check syslogs or dmesg for acpi errors too
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: you had dim working on any other ubuntu version?
[06:32] <william_doe> no
[06:32] <william_doe> this is first time running ubuntu on this machine
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:32] <william_doe> i'm kinda a n00b
[06:32] <william_doe> lol
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: what kind of machine is it?
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: did it work on windows?
[06:33] <william_doe> samsung np365e5c-s01us
[06:33] <william_doe> yeah it worked on windows
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: check bios/syslogs, if it worked on windows should not be bios flash issue
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: i think you will find acpi problems in syslog
[06:35] <william_doe> sorry how do i check taht
[06:35] <william_doe> that*
[06:35] <OerHeks> !info openssl
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: you can dmesg in terminal or browse to /var/log/syslog
[06:35] <william_doe> okay tysm
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: or use the log viewer icon from dash
[06:39] <akiva-thinkpad> Any programming newbies, and I mean complete newbies want to learn some python?
[06:39] <william_doe> hmmmmm
[06:39] <william_doe> only thing i found that seems maybe suspect is:  Nov 21 04:14:51 billydonut-laptop kernel: [    0.320339] acpi PNP0A03:00: _OSC: platform does not support [PME]
[06:39] <william_doe> lotuspsychje:
[06:40] <Guest47294> Can anyone help me about nitrogen?
[06:40] <william_doe> i don't think this is relevent after googling tho
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: maybe try this: tail -f /var/log/syslog and fool around with your dim a bit for realtime problems
[06:45] <Blaster> Hi I'm trying to use dd to copy a Windows 7 ISO to a USB key.
[06:46] <Blaster> I was told to use the command: sudo dd bs=4M if=[ur .iso] of=/dev/sd[letter of drive]
[06:46] <theadmin> Blaster: That won't work
[06:46] <theadmin> Blaster: Use WinUSB to create bootable Windows ISOs
[06:46] <theadmin> Windows images are *not* hybrid, you can't just dd them
[06:46] <Blaster> But I can't figure out the letter of the drive.  When I type `lsblk` it just says: sdc      8:32   1   3.8G  0 disk
[06:46] <Blaster> Oh okay.
[06:46] <Blaster> Does this drive need to be mounted to a letter?  Why is it just sdc?
[06:47] <theadmin> Blaster: Well, "c" is your letter
[06:47] <Blaster> I mean a number, like /dev/sdc1 or something.
[06:47] <Blaster> Oh I see.
[06:47] <Blaster> What about number?
[06:47] <theadmin> Blaster: Oh. No, you don't dd to a partition /dev/sdc1 means "SATA drive 3, partition 1" basically
[06:47] <theadmin> Blaster: /dev/sdc refers to the entire drive
[06:47] <Blaster> Oh okay, and 1 refers to the partition?
[06:48] <Blaster> Cool.
[06:48] <tqrekf> hi
[06:48] <Blaster> Is it zero indexed?
[06:48] <Blaster> Well it's obvious from looking at lsblk that it isn't.
[06:48] <theadmin> Blaster: Eh, not really. Drives go "a", "b", "c", ..., "aa", "ab", ... and so on, while partitions are 1, 2, 3...
[06:48] <william_doe> lotuspsychje: hmm i don't know i am just confusing myself.  this is not a terribly big deal for me haha
[06:49] <Blaster> theadmin: What's the maximum allowable number of drives?
[06:49] <theadmin> Blaster: I don't think there's a limit, and even if there is it's very high
[06:49] <Blaster> Limited only by hardware?
[06:49] <tqrekf> i have q problem with my intel hd driver i have a blank screen after login please help me
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: well there is certanly a reason for this, try to google some errors you have
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: your on 14.04?
[06:50] <william_doe> lotuspsychje: yes i am i didn't find any errors
[06:50] <william_doe> nothing showed up in syslog after running that? and um  in the terminal i got this?
[06:51] <william_doe> [74060.505902] ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0: Bus check notify on hotplug_event_root
[06:51] <william_doe> but that was before i even started messing witht eh brightnessslider
[06:51] <Blaster> tqrekf, does it still show the desktop background, but Unity doesn't boot?  You probably need to switch to another TTY and install the missing Intel graphics packages.
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: what kind of grafix card you havin?
[06:52] <tqrekf> i have upgrqted from ubuntu 12,10 to 13,10
[06:52] <william_doe> lemme check
[06:53] <Ben64> tqrekf: 13.10 is no longer supported
[06:53] <william_doe> i have apu
[06:53] <william_doe> AMD A8-4500M APU
[06:53] <Blaster> theadmin, I can't seem to find WinUSB for utopic.
[06:53] <william_doe> maybe i should try installing drivers from amd?
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: check additional drivers section maybe
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: did you install 14.04 with internet enabled/updates enabled?
[06:54] <theadmin> Blaster: Please see http://www.sysads.co.uk/2014/05/install-winusb-ubuntu-14-04/
[06:54] <william_doe> i honestly don't remember but i have ran updates since
[06:54] <Blaster> theadmin, that's for saucy.
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: well its reccomended to install with internet, to find best drivers for your system
[06:54] <tqrekf> after grub i get the login screen by swiching clt alt f7 i login and i get a blank screen with mouse
[06:55] <theadmin> Blaster: Err... Trusty, actually, but yeah my bad
[06:55] <theadmin> Oh
[06:55] <theadmin> The package is indeed built for Saucy
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> tqrekf: as Ben64 suggestes, 13.10 is eol mate, install a version from topic
[06:55] <william_doe> lotuspsychje: it says under additional drivers that i'm using the recommended driver
[06:55] <Blaster> theadmin, what about this one? https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/ubuntu/test/+build/6191501
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> william_doe: you could try another one, just to test your dim issue, you can change it back after
[06:56] <Blaster> Or should I find another way to burn Windows to my USB key?
[06:56] <william_doe> yeah i might
[06:56] <william_doe> lemme try that
[06:56] <theadmin> Blaster: I don't know of any other tool that would work in Linux sadly
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: winusb is the best package as theadmin says
[06:56] <theadmin> Blaster: Most of Windows tools are, well, for Windows
[06:56] <tqrekf> so what is the solutionm reinstall the latest  ubuntu version?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> tqrekf: 14.04 is reccomended
[06:57] <Blaster> theadmin, what about the launchpad link I posted?
[06:57] <theadmin> Blaster: I can't find an actual download link there, so can't say.
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> tqrekf: 14.10 the newest but 9 months support
[06:57] <Blaster> theadmin: Why can't I just use dd?
[06:57] <theadmin> Blaster: You may try the package I linked, it may work regardless (since the site claims it works in 14.04, it may work on 14.10 as well)
[06:58] <theadmin> Blaster: I don't know details, all I know is that it doesn't work
[06:58] <theadmin> dd that is
[06:58] <Blaster> I'm sure it works with the right combination of config.
[06:58] <Blaster> But I'll try the trusty package.
[06:59] <Blaster> Errors were encountered while processing WinUSB.
[07:00] <tqrekf> i have many works and installed softwares in ;y ubuntu 13.10, there's no solution to upgrade to 14.10 fro; 13.10?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: keep in mind that 14.10 is experimental
[07:00] <Blaster> Why?
[07:00] <Ben64> 14.10 is released, not experimental
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> tqrekf: its reccomended to install fresh mate
[07:01] <Ben64> tqrekf: you can upgrade to 14.04 from 13.10
[07:01] <Blaster> Maybe method 1 from here will work for burning a Windows 7 ISO to a USB key. http://askubuntu.com/a/116886
[07:03] <tqrekf> when i tried to upgrade i get errors can't access archive.canonical.com and ubuntu.mirror.tn
[07:04] <Ben64> !eol | tqrekf
[07:04] <tqrekf> should i change sources.list?
[07:04] <Ben64> read that link
[07:07] <tqrekf> ok thanks i will reinstall ubuntu 14.04
[07:09] <Blaster> What does this kind of text mean in the context of the dd utility? ��˦۾b�m�����oh$��
[07:09] <Blaster> I forgot the of= flag and it outputted a ton of that to terminal.
[07:11] <Ben64> Blaster: that is the output from dd
[07:12] <Blaster> What exactly is it?
[07:12] <Blaster> Machine code, binary, what?
[07:12] <Ben64> whatever you put into it
[07:12] <Blaster> It's a Windows 7 ISO.
[07:12] <Ben64> then its that
[07:12] <Blaster> Hmm.
[07:14] <Blaster> Ben64: Why is it partially legible English, and part chinese and other weird characters?
[07:14] <OerHeks> really an ubuntu support question we hear every day
[07:15] <Blaster> Sure it is. ;)
[07:16] <Blaster> Am I supposed to dd my Windows 7 bootable ISO to /dev/sdc or /dev/sdc1?
[07:17] <Blaster> I formatted it FAT 16 with boot flag on using gparted.
[07:17] <Ben64> Blaster: neither, cause that won't work. join ##windows for help making a usb bootable windows iso
[07:17] <Blaster> I don't have a working Windows machine.
[07:17] <Ben64> ok?
[07:17] <Blaster> I'm fixing my friends broken box, but I need to make a bootable ISO using Ubuntu.
[07:18] <Ben64> well ask ##windows
[07:18] <tqrekf> ubuntu server is recommended for web hosting?
[07:18] <Ben64> tqrekf: sure
[07:18] <tqrekf> i heard centos is faster
[07:18] <Ben64> ok, use whatever you like
[07:19] <Blaster> Ben64, I understand but I think using dd with fat16 and boot flag is going to work and I want to test it.  They know nothing about dd.  Can you just answer my other question?  /dev/sdc or /dev/sdc1?  Theoretically would I “burn it” to the FAT16 partition or not?
[07:19] <OerHeks> Blaster, you have been told dd does not work, why do you insist on it?
[07:19] <Blaster> Because I want to try to make it work.  No one has been clear on why it doesn't.
[07:19] <Ben64> Blaster: join ##windows for help with windows iso
[07:19] <Ben64> this is not on topic here
[07:20] <cfhowlett> Blaster, wrong channel.  ##windows
[07:23] <tqrekf> i have been used ubuntu for a time, but would like to know which distribution is faster and provide more tools for securitym i'; not system admin, i'm developper ;)
[07:24] <Ben64> tqrekf: not on topic here
[07:24] <Blaster> Is there some way to make the clock in Unity display unix time, or is it limited to 12 or 24 hour clock only?
[07:32] <RedPenguin> Is there any easy way to disable USB power mgmt? I have a Happauge HVR-950Q TV Tuner that seems like it randomly is inaccessible after an hour or so
[07:33] <_Virtuoso_> spanish?
[07:33] <RedPenguin> ?
[07:33] <_Virtuoso_> speak spanish?
[07:33] <RedPenguin> oh no
[07:33] <_Virtuoso_> ok thank
[07:34] <cfhowlett> !es
[07:36] <pups> првет
[07:50] <RedPenguin> nvm found a ubuntuforums thread that seems to deal with how to make the driver not time out
[07:55] <energizer> hey can i get some help dual booting
[07:55] <energizer> im in the partition step
[07:56] <energizer> there's sda1,2,3,4. sda1,2 have "windows 7 (loader)" on them
[07:56] <energizer> not sure how to make sure i don't overwrite windows?
[08:04] <agent_white> And sda2,4?
[08:04] <mtuts> hello everyone
[08:04] <agent_white> \o
[08:04] <energizer> nothing listed agent_white
[08:05] <agent_white> energizer: Does nothing occupy sda3/4 ?
[08:05] <agent_white> As in, windows is on sd1/2 only?
[08:05] <energizer> that's what it says, but maybe im misreading it
[08:06] <agent_white> energizer: Nah it should be very clear :)
[08:06] <agent_white> energizer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[08:06] <energizer> agent_white: thanks
[08:06] <agent_white> Though it says "automatic partition sizing: not recommended) I would disagree, and say that you should do this until you know more about partitioning to your needs.
[08:07] <agent_white> energizer: `^
[08:07] <agent_white> Unless you choose partition sizes SMALLER than the one auto-matically selected, you should be fine.
[08:09] <agent_white> energizer: Though if you're feeling adventurous, do the manual partitioning. Again -- last long as you're not attempting to re-size the windows partitions, you should be fine choosing your own linux partion sizes.
[08:10] <dylon> Ку
[08:10] <catalogue> i want to search a log for xyz. what is the command? grep xyz filename.txt?
[08:10] <agent_white> Note that in your BIOS, the disk you choose for "primary boot" must have the bootload (grub2) on it.
[08:10] <BUSY> hey, some of my .mkv files develop thumbnails as their file image in nautilus and others don't. is there a way to force those to take on an image from their media?
[08:10] <agent_white> catalogue: xyz being a single string? -- grep /var/log/messages "stringInsideMessages"
[08:11] <subinalex> hi
[08:11] <subinalex> anyone out there
[08:11] <dylon> Hi
[08:12] <dylon>   I'n 15.
[08:12] <subinalex> hi dylon..where u frm
[08:12] <agent_white> BUSY:               to force those to take on an image from their media?
[08:12] <dylon> Estonia. U?
[08:12] <agent_white> BUSY: http://askubuntu.com/questions/160971/cant-generate-thumbnails-in-nautilus
[08:12] <agent_white> ^ ;)
[08:12] <dylon> Estonia. U?
[08:12] <subinalex> am from india
[08:12] <subinalex> so wht u dng now
[08:13] <dylon> Just sitting. How old r u?
[08:13] <OerHeks> !ot | subinalex dylon
[08:13] <subinalex> am 26
[08:13] <subinalex> bye
[08:13] <dylon> Ok
[08:14] <catalogue> agent_white: thank you
[08:15] <BUSY> agent_white: thanks! also worked
[08:15] <agent_white> Cheers! :)
[08:16] <catalogue> agent_white: actually that didn't work. hmm. it says the two parameters hsould be switched around
[08:16] <catalogue> and when i do that it just seems to start rpocesssing and doesnt return anything
[08:17] <agent_white> catalogue: `grep "thingToSearch" /path/to/messages/message.log`
[08:17] <agent_white> though many do `cat /path/to/log.log | grep "searchThing"`, the above is more direct ;P
[08:18] <agent_white> catalogue: Sorry, I switch up the params by accident.
[08:18] <bekks> useless use of cat. Use "grep searchthing filename" instead :)
[08:18] <agent_white> catalogue: ^^
[08:18] <agent_white> what bekks said
[08:19] <kerneloopz> hey guys. How do I install a Nvidia .run driver? Is the recommended way to boot into recovery mode, and from the recovery menu drop into the command line, and install the driver that way?
[08:19] <catalogue> is it a slow process? it takes forever
[08:20] <catalogue> i'm running this basically: grep "hi" #ubuntu
[08:20] <catalogue> .log
[08:20] <agent_white> _generally_, use `find` for files/directorie names, and `grep` for the content inside them.
[08:20] <agent_white> catalogue: What exactly are you wanting to search for?
[08:20] <murbard> How can I rsync ubuntu?
[08:20] <catalogue> for a word inside the log
[08:21] <OerHeks> kerneloopz, recommended way is the drivers ubuntu provides with the additional driver tool
[08:21] <murbard> er, how can I rsync the latest 14.10 ubuntu image?
[08:21] <murbard> Are there any rsync servers, instead of httpd
[08:21] <murbard> or ftpd
[08:21] <kerneloopz> yes OerHeks, but the driver tool doesn't offer 343.22, which I need for my 970
[08:22] <bekks> kerneloopz: you dont do that because it will break your system whenever your kernel gets updated.
[08:22] <kerneloopz> and xorg-edgers for some reason doesn't include OpenCL in their package
[08:22] <bekks> kerneloopz: Whats the actual problem you are facing with the nvidia drivers from the Ubuntu repos?
[08:22] <kerneloopz> yes, I realize that
[08:22] <agent_white> catalogue: then you are using it correctly with grep. I wouldn't _think_ it would be slow unless "#ubuntu.log" is of a VERY large size.
[08:22] <kerneloopz> the driver is too old and doesn't recognize my 970
[08:23] <bekks> kerneloopz: Which driver version do you use?
[08:23] <kerneloopz> and when I install the driver from xorg-edgers, my 970 is recognized by I don't have OpenCL
[08:23] <agent_white> murbard: rsync? -- Do you mean that you want to update ubuntu?
[08:23] <kerneloopz> I'm on 343.22 at the moment in Linux Mint 17 (Ubuntu 14.04)
[08:23] <catalogue> agent_white, it's another log, and it's ~14,000 lines. is that a lot?
[08:24] <kerneloopz> I managed to install the .run file, but in doing so I messed up X, and I think that's because my method isn't the proper way
[08:24] <bekks> kerneloopz: So ask the min support. This is Ubuntu support.
[08:24] <kerneloopz> hence why I'm asking how to install a .run file
[08:24] <kerneloopz> I realize that
[08:24] <kerneloopz> but in this regard Mint and Ubuntu are basically the same here
[08:24] <bekks> kerneloopz: If you realize that, take your support issue to the linux mint support please.
[08:24] <bekks> !mint | kerneloopz
[08:24] <murbard> agent_white: I mostly downloaded the file with httpd, but the download was interrputed. My interenet is slow enough that I don't want to start it over. I dislike torrents also. so I was hoping to just rsync continue the download.
[08:25] <agent_white> catalogue: `ls -l path/to/log/file.txt --block-size=M` will tell you the size in megabytes
[08:25] <kerneloopz> see, I'll bet I could have just not mentioned that I was on Mint, and any help here would have applied
[08:25] <agent_white> murbard: "the file" is what file?
[08:25] <agent_white> murbard: What file are you attempting to download, from where, and how?
[08:25] <sabun> kerneloopz: come back with another nick with same question, but do not mention linux mint. you will get help
[08:25] <bekks> kerneloopz: Nonetheless you mentioned it, and you are on Mint. So please keep this channel open for the Ubuntu support now.
[08:26] <kerneloopz> all right
[08:26] <catalogue> agent_white, i guess it's 1.2 megs. that's pretty big, right?
[08:26] <murbard> agent_white: ubuntu-14.04.1-dekstop-amd64.iso
[08:26] <agent_white> catalogue: "
[08:26] <agent_white> catalogue: Not really.. it should pretty much give you the response immediately.
[08:26] <kerneloopz> ok, so if I installed Ubuntu 14.04 and wanted to install the Nvidia .run file, how would I do that?
[08:26] <bekks> catalogue: 1.2m isnt large for grep.
[08:26] <bekks> kerneloopz: You dont have Ubuntu.
[08:27] <bekks> kerneloopz: You are on mint. Seek their support. Thank you.
[08:27] <catalogue> agent_white, bekks, yeah i thought it should be much faster. hm. just ran one maybe 30 seconds ago and let it keep going to see how long it would go
[08:28] <catalogue> just a blinking cursor
[08:28] <agent_white> murbard: `rsync -aP /path/to/orgi/file /new/file/path`
[08:28] <agent_white> catalogue: Copy paste your EXACT command
[08:29] <agent_white> Into here
[08:29] <catalogue> grep "hi" #rubyonrails.log
[08:29] <catalogue> hm, it works on files that don't have the #
[08:29] <agent_white> catalogue: What IRC client? Full path of the log file?
[08:29] <bekks> catalogue: grep hi \#rubyonrails.log
[08:29] <agent_white> ^^
[08:29] <bekks> You have to escape the # char.
[08:30] <catalogue> bekks, aha! thank you!
[08:30] <catalogue> what was happening there?
[08:30] <agent_white> murbard: You could also add an alias to rsync to each and every time you call it, it will use --partial(-P). Look up ".bashrc" and "adding alias to bashrc"
[08:31] <catalogue> eh it's not important. thanks for the help guys.
[08:32] <agent_white> catalogue: grep uses "basic regular expressions". In that standard, "#" is a special char. Needs to be escaped to be searched on :)
[08:32] <owen1> (carbon x1 laptop) i don't see hibernation in the power settings.  i followed the advice to modify sudo nano /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla and also installed and used gnome-tweak-tool  but i stil don't see hibernate in the power settings. closing the lid seems to be suspending.
[08:32] <owen1> any ideas?
[08:35] <neurosis-> my friend installed amd64 on a Pentium4 and its working is it going to mess up the pc
[08:35] <neurosis-> and its a 32bit
[08:36] <bekks> Installing 64bit on 32bit isnt possible.
[08:36] <neurosis-> Kernel and CPU	Linux 3.13.0-24-generic on x86_64
[08:36] <neurosis-> Processor information	Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.93GHz, 1 cores
[08:37] <bekks> Sothats not a 32bit processor.
[08:37] <neurosis-> that is what i was thinking too
[08:37] <bekks> Thats whats a fact.
[08:38] <AnonWarlord> nice i love pentium
[08:38] <bekks> I dont, they are too old.
[08:38] <AnonWarlord> ya my fav to be honest is amd 8350
[08:38] <bekks> I dont like AMD, cause they are too slow :)
[08:38] <AnonWarlord> but pentiums are nice
[08:39] <AnonWarlord> what os is every one on ?
[08:41] <agent_white> A form of Linux ;P
[08:50] <cmh> hellow
[08:50] <cmh> 有人吗
[08:53] <cmh> 大家怎么不说话
[08:53] <cfhowlett> !cn | cmh
[08:54] <cmh> 0.0
[08:56] <Kotoro> is there any way to get newer version of kdevelop that have non-github git fetching on ubuntu 14.04?
[09:09] <tompsku> Hi, has anybody seen this "The PPD version (5.2.10-pre2) is not compatible with Gutenprint 5.2.9." aftre last offical 14.04 update
[09:09] <tompsku> any view how to solve this
[09:19] <utente_> I need to manipulate a video .mov: convert for web publishing, add subtitle, do some effects (speed up x2 or x4 some part of video to make it short). What software do you suggest me to use? i am newbie in video editing.
[09:20] <cfhowlett> utente, openshot is the easiest one to start with
[09:20] <cfhowlett> utente, kdenlive might also be a good starting point
[09:20] <utente> cfhowlett, can ioneshot make "speed up" effect? i need it
[09:20] <cfhowlett> utente, #ubuntustudio might have more information
[09:21] <utente> thanks
[09:21] <cfhowlett> utente, I think that's an avconv command ...
[09:21] <utente> avconv? never know. i try to search that voice
[09:21] <cfhowlett> utente, avconv is the replacement for ffmpeg
[09:21] <utente> ok
[09:22] <agent_white> tompsku: `apt-cache showpkg gutenprint` to check which version of ppd that gutenprint needs
[09:22] <yellabs-r2> hello there all you happy hackers
[09:23] <yellabs-r2> does anyone know if there is a problem with the servers ( software packages main server ) ??
[09:23] <agent_white> tompsku: then `apt-get install ppg=a.b.c-xyz` depending on the output from the previous cmt
[09:23] <yellabs-r2> it gives errors at this moment
[09:23] <auscompgeek> yellabs-r2: erm, what release are you using?
[09:23] <agent_white> yellabs-r2: Why do you ask? -- are you trying to install a package?
[09:23] <yellabs-r2> and broken packages all over the place ...
[09:23] <cfhowlett> utente, you can grab a whole lot of these with sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-video
[09:23] <yellabs-r2> 14.04.1 lts
[09:24] <yellabs-r2> for stable production use..
[09:24] <auscompgeek> yellabs-r2: it's just you.
[09:24] <tompsku> I just got did those auto updates and aftre that it got broken
[09:24] <utente> thanks cfhowlett
[09:25] <tompsku> I remove it and re-install it but same problem
[09:25] <cfhowlett> utente, don't forget to check the ubuntustudio forums.  happy2help
[09:25] <yellabs-r2> okey so its not just me..
[09:25] <agent_white> tompsku: Did you follow what I said?
[09:25] <agent_white> tompsku: To ensure you are installing the right version of ppd that gutenprint needs?
[09:25] <yellabs-r2> i guess its a tempory problem ..
[09:26] <OerHeks> yellabs-r2, try changing mirror?
[09:26] <agent_white> utente: `apt-get update` to update your package lists? sometimes you may be attempting to install a package that has been updated everywhere.
[09:26] <yellabs-r2> dutch mirror is causing the problem in the first place..
[09:26] <agent_white> erm
[09:26] <yellabs-r2> lol
[09:26] <agent_white> utente: Disregard that
[09:26] <agent_white> yellabs-r2: My message above is for you :P
[09:27] <owen1> i try to change my End key to be left mouse click. xmodmap -e 'keycode 115 = Pointer_Button1'  doesn't do anything. xev show me ButtonPress event and it say 'button 1'. not sure if it's helpful.
[09:27] <utente> agent_white, im on debian now, so i must see if there is those packages here.
[09:27] <agent_white> utente: Sorry there, that message was meant for yellabs-r2 :P
[09:27] <utente> Agent_Sm1th_BR, no problem
[09:28] <utente> agent_white, no problme
[09:28] <OerHeks> yellabs-r2, try https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ftp.snt.utwente.nl-archive
[09:28] <tompsku> Agent_white: if you mean dependency it is only to "5.0.1-1lsb3.1"
[09:28] <agent_white> THERES ANOTHER AGENT IN HERE?!
[09:28] <yellabs-r2> ok
[09:28] <agent_white> tompsku: Yes! That's the only dependency?
[09:28] <yellabs-r2> try that Oerheks
[09:28] <agent_white> tompsku: Try checking ppg's dependencies instead
[09:29] <agent_white> I might've reversed it: you may need to install a version of gutenprint that ppg needs.
[09:30] <tompsku> agent_white: as I'm newbi that you mena ppg ...?
[09:32] <agent_white> tompsku: I meant ppd! :P
[09:33] <agent_white> tompsku: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219010
[09:35] <SHAHPAR> abc
[09:35] <SHAHPAR> helo
[09:35] <SHAHPAR> helo
[09:35] <SHAHPAR> helo
[09:36] <blabla> hi
[09:36] <SHAHPAR> hi blabla
[09:36] <tompsku> agent_white: yes I have read this forum post and that's way I tried to reinstall it but same problem still (and re install i mena cups and PPD)p
[09:37] <SHAHPAR> what's up
[09:37] <SHAHPAR> hi buddies
[09:37] <SHAHPAR> helo
[09:37] <cfhowlett> SHAHPAR, we see you.  ask your support questions
[09:38] <SHAHPAR> i want to use screen but i have problem
[09:38] <agent_white> tompsku: Hm... so you tried the `footmatic` and `pximono` utilities?
[09:38] <SHAHPAR> no
[09:39] <tompsku> for my printer there is no footmatic :(
[09:39] <cfhowlett> SHAHPAR, this is the part where you give actual DETAILS of the "problem".  No one is going to guess.
[09:40] <agent_white> tompsku: Hm. Have you logged into the CUPS web interface/admin page to change the gutenprint version?
[09:40] <agent_white> tompsku: Also `/usr/bin/cups-genppdupdate`
[09:41] <agent_white> then `sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart`
[09:41] <tompsku> yes and remove , install, remove, .. the printer. and every time when try to print test page thet error comes
[09:41] <agent_white> :/ Hm.
[09:41] <SHAHPAR_> hey agnet
[09:41] <agent_white> Printers are the worst thing to deal with :(
[09:41] <SHAHPAR_> agent
[09:41] <agent_white> \o
[09:41] <tompsku> and also "/usr/bin/cups-genppdupdate" and stop/start for cups ...
[09:42] <cfhowlett> SHAHPAR, what is your spoken language??
[09:42] <tompsku> 100% agree
[09:42] <agent_white> tompsku: You did those borth?
[09:42] <SHAHPAR_> what do you mean
[09:42] <yellabs-r2> hmm, cant install language-pack-nl-base , depends on language-pack-nl , wich i cant install because it depends on langauge-pack-nl-base ..
[09:42] <cfhowlett> SHAHPAR, what language do you speak?
[09:42] <SHAHPAR_> i'm speaking english
[09:42] <yellabs-r2> i am chasing my own tail here ..
[09:42] <tompsku> what you mean "borth?"
[09:42] <SHAHPAR_> i'm newbie to linux and want to get command over this bitch
[09:42] <agent_white> yellabs-r2: `apt-get -f install language-pack-nl` ?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> SHAHPAR, 5 minutes ago you said you had a "problem".  I asked for details.  You've given no details.  no details >>> no help.
[09:43] <SHAHPAR_> a
[09:43] <SHAHPAR_> cfhowlett
[09:43] <cfhowlett> !details | SHAHPAR_
[09:43] <SHAHPAR_> ok
[09:43] <SHAHPAR_> ok
[09:44] <yellabs-r2> no , un met dependencies
[09:44] <SHAHPAR_> i am trying to make use of screen utility on ubuntu server
[09:45] <SHAHPAR_> it is too difficult to install offline packages on linux,,, wof
[09:45] <bekks> SHAHPAR_: What complicated about it?
[09:46] <agent_white> SHAHPAR_: Why do you need to use screen? What are you trying to do?
[09:47] <SHAHPAR_> because
[09:47] <Ben64> SHAHPAR_: explain in as much detail as possible, all on one line, what you're trying to do, what you've done, and what is not appearing to be working, also, give us which version of linux you have
[09:47] <SHAHPAR_> i want to use multiple terminal sessions at the same time
[09:47] <bekks> So open up multiple terminals? :)
[09:48] <bekks> screen is useful for closing the terminals but keep the session running.
[09:48] <SHAHPAR_> i don't have gui, i am using ubuntu server 14.04
[09:48] <SHAHPAR_> pure console mode
[09:48] <eb0t> nice
[09:48] <Ben64> SHAHPAR_: ok, but what is the problem?
[09:48] <SHAHPAR_> i got it, thank you
[09:49] <root_> \query
[09:49] <SHAHPAR_> well GEEKS, i would like to instal GUI GNOME on UBUNTU SERVER 14.04 which one is best ??
[09:49] <SHAHPAR_> I'v tried xorg but it is too slow
[09:49] <cfhowlett> SHAHPAR_, geeks?  really?
[09:49] <agent_white> Well, screen gives you multiple terminals through one session... rather than just opening a new term locally, and ssh'ing in again (which creates _another_ session)
[09:49] <Ben64> SHAHPAR_: the capital letters are not necessary, nor is the name calling.
[09:49] <agent_white> I believe... correct me if I'm wrong.
[09:50]  * cfhowlett adds another name to the /ignore list.
[09:50] <bekks> SHAHPAR_: On a server, you dont use a gui, normally. :)
[09:50] <agent_white> cfhowlett: >.< I was excited to educate on terminal sessions until that point. ;P
[09:50] <cfhowlett> if it has a gui, it's not a server ...
[09:50] <cfhowlett> Agent_white I fully agree.
[09:50] <SHAHPAR_> But i want
[09:50] <agent_white> cfhowlett: Oh well. You win some, you lose some eh?
[09:51] <SHAHPAR_> I have lot of questions about Linux
[09:51] <cfhowlett> agent_white, true true.
[09:52] <cfhowlett> agent_white, just learned that my 14.04.1 ubuntustudio doesn
[09:52] <cfhowlett> does not have "screen" ...
[09:52] <SHAHPAR_> GEEKS, have you experienced FreeBSD??? I want to try that
[09:52] <master> I have a question too, please, but I am not sure this is the correct place to ask such ?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> master, please ask.
[09:52] <Ben64> SHAHPAR_: only ubuntu is on topic here, and you're not going to get any help by calling people names
[09:53] <SHAHPAR_> Could you please recommend a Linux Book ?
[09:53] <blabla> SHAHPAR_: man
[09:53] <master> OK, sorry I will leave then , thanks
[09:53] <cfhowlett> master, ??? ask your ubuntu questions
[09:54] <master> Oh, sorry, Was I being told to go away there
[09:54] <yellabs-r2> ah , seems to be a bug..
[09:54] <yellabs-r2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-gnome-nl-base/+bug/1394923
[09:54] <bekks> SHAHPAR_: Do you have a specific Ubuntu support question?
[09:54] <agent_white> cfhowlett: Oh really? Yeah I actually never use screen... haven't had restraints on # of term sessions to any boxes. One day I'll learn it :P
[09:55] <cfhowlett> master, that was directed at someone else.  proper use is to use the person's name ... as I have done.  Also, read carefully.  so ... your question??
[09:56] <cfhowlett> Agent_white I've lived this long without it ... guess I'll manage.
[09:56] <agent_white> Hahah indeed :P
[09:57] <blabla> screen is cool
[09:57] <blabla> using it atm
[09:57] <agent_white> I am obligated to use it since it goes nicely with vim, but I have enough keybindings as is ;P
[10:03] <eb0t> is there a channel for ubuntu where i can go offtopic a little
[10:04] <agent_white> eb0t: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:04] <eb0t> ah great
[10:04] <eb0t> thanks agent_white
[10:04] <Paramezius> Hello, I installed ubuntu 14.04 fut it fails to completely install my language
[10:04] <Paramezius> transaction failed: package dependencies cannot be resolved. the following packages have unmet dependencies: language-pack-gl: language-pack-gnome-gl
[10:05] <Paramezius> i installed it some days ago in the same computer and it worked. it was a previous installation
[10:17] <agent_white> Paramezius: `apt-get -f install language-pack-gl` ?
[10:17] <he1s3nberg> i have an issue
[10:18] <he1s3nberg> :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[10:18] <blabla> he1s3nberg: you need to register yourself with /msg nickserv register email password
[10:18] <he1s3nberg> if i join a particular channel of my interest , this is the message showing.
[10:19] <blabla> he1s3nberg: and then check your mails, after you did it, you can login to your nickname by using /msg nickserv identify password
[10:19] <he1s3nberg> blabla, can you tell me how ?
[10:19] <agent_white> he1s3nberg: `/msg nickserv help`
[10:19] <blabla> i did already, he1s3nberg
[10:19] <he1s3nberg> blabla, ok. thankss
[10:21] <Paramezius> agent_white, let's try
[10:23] <basil1x> Is there a reason audio-convert-mod isn't in the repos?  It's a lot less annoying that soundconverter, despite having a completely tragic name.
[10:24] <basil1x> It also requires some creative futzing to get working.  It wants ffmpeg, which has apparently gone.
[10:28] <k1l_> basil1x: programs demanding ffmpeg cant b in the repos since ffmpeg is not in the repos.
[10:28] <basil1x> I was thinking it could be altered to use whatever replaced ffmpeg?
[10:28] <Flannel> basil1x: libav is.  audio-convert-mod isn't in the repos because it seems that no one has packaged it.
[10:29] <basil1x> AH
[10:29] <k1l_> basil1x: libav-tools is in the repos. its one of the forks from the ffmpeg drama
[10:29] <JetForMe> I'm having a heck of a time getting my new ubuntu install to link a very simple C/C++ program.
[10:29] <basil1x> Pity they couldn't do something about the dreadful name at the same time.
[10:30] <SHAHPAR_> GEEKS
[10:30] <Flannel> JetForMe: have you installed 'build-essential'?
[10:30] <bekks> JetForMe: why?
[10:30] <JetForMe> here's my example: http://pastebin.com/ChQcyLW1
[10:30] <JetForMe> I installed with sudo apt-get install g++
[10:30] <bekks> JetForMe: And how do you try to link it?
[10:31] <JetForMe> The command line is in the comments at the top
[10:31] <bekks> And whats the error message?
[10:31] <JetForMe> By the way, I was able to build mpg123 from source without issue, and it makes teh same call.
[10:31] <JetForMe> ah, stand by, sorry
[10:32] <JetForMe> I updated the paste with the error
[10:32] <JetForMe> (at the bottom)
[10:32] <geirha> that means there's a new url
[10:32] <JetForMe> http://pastebin.com/ChQcyLW1
[10:32] <JetForMe> Nope, same URL ;-)
[10:33] <JetForMe> I also tried this with plain C code (main.c, no C++ syntax), same result
[10:33] <JetForMe> let me try installing build-essentials, although I seem to have a working set of tools
[10:34] <bekks> JetForMe: Use: #include <alsa/control.h>
[10:34] <bekks> build-essentials will not magically fix your code :)
[10:34] <JetForMe> no change, bekks
[10:34] <JetForMe> (with alsa/control
[10:35] <nopf> JetForMe: put the -l option after the .cpp file. this is how linking works iirc
[10:35] <JetForMe> Wow, that's it
[10:35] <JetForMe> I've never run into that before
[10:36] <nopf> JetForMe: the -l is used to resolve undefined names. at that point of the command line (from left to right) there are no undefined names
[10:36] <JetForMe> I usually write all my options first, including the -o, and put the source file name(s) at the end. Oh, but that's when I'm using a makefile with a separate link step...
[10:36] <geirha> GNU likes to break with convention :)
[10:36] <nopf> JetForMe: in this sens -l is not an option but another file specification
[10:36] <nopf> geirha: no, this is traditional C
[10:36] <JetForMe> I should say, I *usually* use Xcode on iOS or OS X...
[10:36] <Tommmy> hi
[10:37] <nopf> JetForMe: btw this is not ubuntu specific. forget the solution and ask again in ##programming :)
[10:37] <JetForMe> yeah, I get you, it's just Xcode hides all that
[10:38] <Paramezius> agent_white, it doesn't work. it keeps telling that there are unmet dependencies
[10:38] <JetForMe> For that matter, I usually have makefiles, wherein this doesn't appear
[10:38] <JetForMe> Thank you nopf, and the rest, for all your help!
[10:38] <Paramezius> could it be due to a repository problem?
[10:40] <Tommmy> Hi, can anyone tell me the correct way to install and use a nvidia driver? :S
[10:41] <blabla> Tommmy: apt-get install nvidia-drivers ?
[10:41] <flux242> Everytime I install ubuntu base system on a machine or in a virtual environment I open .bashrc and uncomment force_color_prompt. It was like that since many years. Why isn't it fixed already?
[10:42] <Tommmy> i installed nvidia-current, and nvidia-prime to switch betwen intel and nvidia but after that my ubuntu was freezing every 5 minutes
[10:42] <Tommmy> it was working fine but it was freezing, even with out playing a game
[10:42] <blabla> Tommmy: maybe wrong driver?
[10:43] <Tommmy> i could play games
[10:45] <Tommmy> is nvidia-current fine for Nvidia GeForce GT 525M?
[10:45] <flux242> the workaround would be to copy part of the .bashrc into my .bash_aliases bun I really don't want to have this code there
[10:45] <blabla> Tommmy: should be, any error logs?
[10:46] <k1l_> Tommmy: which ubuntu?
[10:46] <Tommmy> well i got rid of it so i reinstaled ubuntu
[10:46] <Tommmy> 14.04
[10:46] <k1l_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[10:46] <k1l_> Tommmy: remove the nvidia-current and install the nvidia-331
[10:47] <Tommmy> i had nvidia-331
[10:47] <Tommmy> but my screen was freezing
[10:47] <Tommmy> i have reinstaled ubuntu 5 times
[10:48] <Tommmy> should i try with nvidia-331-updates
[10:48] <Tommmy> ?
[10:48] <geirha> flux242: The idea is that the terminal should tell bash whether it can do colors or not, but gnome-terminal, at least, has no such ability at all. It sets TERM=xterm no matter what
[10:49] <flux242> geirha: which leads to what conclusion?
[10:50] <k1l_> Tommmy: i dont know. i dont have your setup. if nvidia-current works than ok
[10:50] <geirha> flux242: That it's a mess
[10:50] <sacarlson> Tommmy: looks like 331.49 is best they got http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/73221
[10:50] <flux242> geirha: exactly, what's what I'm talking about
[10:51] <dopie> hey all
[10:51] <dopie> https://archerimagine.wordpress.com/2014/05/01/things-to-do-after-a-fresh-install-of-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr/
[10:51] <dopie> im trying to get the solarized theme for my bash
[10:51] <dopie> but its not installing
[10:51] <Tommmy> hmmmm.. what happen if i have 2 nvidia drivers?
[10:51] <Tommmy> or more
[10:51] <k1l_> Tommmy: that results in issues
[10:51] <geirha> flux242: I just replace it with my own generic .bashrc, but that's unfortunately not enough either, because bash is specifically patched to also read /etc/bash.bashrc, and you can't avoid that
[10:51] <k1l_> Tommmy: that is why i said remove the one and then install the next one
[10:52] <k1l_> dopie: more details, more errormassages. what ubuntu?
[10:52] <Tommmy> so is it a good idea to do apt-get purge nvidia*
[10:52] <Tommmy> ?
[10:52] <flux242> geirha: it is possible to set a custom term variable with xfce4-terminal but if I write xterm-color then the terminal stops workgin telling me that /etc/termcap is missing
[10:53] <Tommmy> before installing the nvidia-331
[10:53] <k1l_> Tommmy: yes. is suggest to make a reboot then. then install the new one, reboot again
[10:53] <k1l_> *i suggest
[10:53] <Tommmy> that could be the mistake
[10:54] <geirha> termcap? surely you have terminfo installed
[10:54] <Tommmy> because i have tried 5 times, using diferent ways, diferent packages,and had to reinstall 5 times
[10:54] <Tommmy> i will try that
[10:54] <Tommmy> thank you so much!
[10:54] <flux242> geirha: I usually never change the default .bashrc beside that damn color variable. I do everything in my own .bash_aliases.
[10:55] <mehdip2007> hey guys i install xiki  when i input it in my terminal now i cant run my terminal what should i do?
[10:57] <flux242> geirha: no I don't think that i have terminfo installed. It could be a part of ncurses which is not installed. No need
[10:57] <Ben64> mehdip2007: not seeing any package named xiki
[10:59] <flux242> geirha: but anyway, if I only have a basis then getty sets term variable to linux and again color prompt is not activated by default
[10:59] <mehdip2007> Ben64, http://github.com/trogdoro/xiki      here is the link :D
[11:00] <mehdip2007> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/xiki/xiki-the-command-revolution       this is what i try yo use
[11:00] <Ben64> mehdip2007: only software in the ubuntu repositories are supported, contact whoever makes that
[11:00] <geirha> flux242: Right, so it's probably about time that restriction gets lifted, and colors are enabled by default. I don't even know if there's any terminal emulators that don's support colors in ubuntu's repositories
[11:01] <mehdip2007> well the point is u can see pictures and videos in ur terminal
[11:03] <mehdip2007> Ben64, how can i restore my terminal ? this is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/9170045/
[11:04] <Ben64> mehdip2007: see, thats why non standard software isn't supported. theres no way anyone here could know what you did to get it to that state. you'll have to figure that out yourself
[11:05] <solars> hi there, is there a tool that I could use temporarily for uptime logging? need to check the internet connection on a machine here to see if it is stable over a day
[11:06] <mehdip2007> Ben64, well in my terminal preferences TITLE and command tab in custom command i add /usr/bin/xiki and couldnt run it anyomre :(
[11:07] <Ben64> mehdip2007: undo what you did then
[11:08] <mehdip2007> Ben64, i cant run my terminal to undo  it thats my problem now
[11:08] <Ben64> mehdip2007: use the recovery mode then
[11:10] <sacarlson> mehdip2007: I would assume that should only effect a single user.  so can you login to a different user and fix it from there?
[11:13] <mehdip2007> sacarlson, yea i can do that but donno how
[11:13] <Torbard> mit welchem befehl kann ich ein datei starten?
[11:13] <Ben64> !recovery | mehdip2007
[11:13] <nopf> Torbard: which datei?
[11:14] <k1l_> Torbard: kommt auf die datei an. aber dieser kanal ist englisch sprachig
[11:14] <Torbard> bash i maybe
[11:14] <nopf> Torbard: you start bash by typing bash
[11:14] <Torbard> i want to start Tor onion router
[11:15] <nopf> Torbard: how did you install it?
[11:16] <Torbard> only extract
[11:16] <k1l_> Torbard: what says the readme?
[11:16] <cendora> systemd ?
[11:17] <k1l_> cendora: is that a question? can you rephrase that?
[11:17] <Tommmmy> who was helping me 5 minutes ag?
[11:17] <Tommmmy> ago*
[11:17] <cendora> ok, wait a bit
[11:17] <cendora> not yet question
[11:17] <cendora> rephrasing, lool
[11:18] <nopf> Torbard: why not install it with 'sudo apt-get install tor'? then read /usr/share/doc/tor/README.Debian
[11:18] <bekks> !tor
[11:18] <flux242> What's your favorite remote session solution? I mean forwarding X with ssh is straight forward and with proper compresison settings works well but it wont forward sound. VNC can't adjust screen resolution. NoMachine become bloated. What else?
[11:18] <bekks> flux242: I dont see how NoMachine is "bloated".
[11:18] <Tommmmy> K1|_ did you helped me 5 minutes ago?
[11:18] <k1l_> Tommmmy: maybe.
[11:19] <Tommmmy> it worked
[11:19] <k1l_> Tommmmy: good :)
[11:19] <Tommmmy> its not freezing anymore, thank you
[11:19] <flux242> bekks: that's ok
[11:19] <Quatroking> how do I add a desktop shortcut to a program?
[11:19] <OerHeks> flux242, tightvnc can adjust screenresolution
[11:20] <OerHeks> Quatroking, depends what desktop
[11:20] <Quatroking> gnome
[11:21] <flux242> OerHeks: can it? I mean not to predefined one like 1024x768 but to 1024x600 for instance
[11:22] <belgianguy> Can Unity 8 be installed as a separate DE?
[11:23] <solars> does anybody know a tool for offline time logging?
[11:23] <flux242> OerHeks: tightvnc for linux is java only. I do not have java runtime
[11:24] <k1l_> belgianguy: unity8 sits on top of MIR. best is to try the live images they provide for testing
[11:24] <OerHeks> flux242, vncserver can too, vncserver -geometry 1024x600
[11:25] <OerHeks> not sure tightvnc can work with openjdk, i guess it is.
[11:25] <belgianguy> solars: pen, paper and a clock ;) But also Project Hamster,Toggl and Klok
[11:27] <bekks> flux242: So use version 1.3, which has nothing to do with java. Version 2 is a rewrite in Java.
[11:28] <flux242>  I've just found novnc - html5 implementation client. Hm, I think I try it
[11:45] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[11:47] <belgianguy> hi
[11:50] <spupuser1> hi
[11:50] <spupuser1> guys why isn't there a better way to find a good spouse?
[11:51] <OerHeks> spupuser1, do you have an ubuntu support question ?
[11:52] <spupuser1> OerHeks: yes, my netbook has 1 gig of ram, which ubuntu can i use
[11:52] <OerHeks> spupuser1, all versions
[11:52] <spupuser1> OerHeks: i also want to do web development and mySQL, and java
[11:53] <spupuser1> hmm, ok i shall try some now
[11:53] <k1l_> spupuser1: go with lubuntu
[11:53] <k1l_> and be aware that a atom netbook with 1gb ram is not a rocket at all.
[11:54] <spupuser1> k11_: this is correct, i shall try several distributions
[11:55] <spupuser1> k11_: well i just need to get comfortable with one of them.
[11:55] <k1l_> spupuser1: then do that
[12:06] <mpathy> I have a problem with encodings.. I unpacked a tar.xz (from a BSD system apparently) to my Ubuntu here.. Some special characters in the file names were not correct (the äöüß of the german file names for example) and I want to correct them. Is there a way to do this? I am think of a program who does that automatically, which would be the easiest, or instead something which has the ability to "search&replace" on file names recursively in a l
[12:06] <mpathy> ot of folders..
[12:07] <mpathy> If there is nothing like that, I got a text file with md5sums and the correct filenames, which I could use to replace the file names in the unpacked folder here..
[12:07] <dorkusmaximus> is ubuntu the best linux distribution
[12:07] <bekks> dorkusmaximus: There is no "best" in terms of software. It is all up to you and your choice.
[12:08] <dorkusmaximus> aw c'mon...just say "ubuntu is def the best"
[12:08] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: since you ask in a ubuntu channel: yes it is
[12:08] <mpathy> you asking this in the Ubuntu channel? you might get a bit of a biased answer on that.. try some for yourself. you can use something like VirtualBox to install different systems on your current system
[12:08] <dorkusmaximus> awesome i knew it
[12:08] <bekks> dorkusmaximus: If you knew it - why do you ask?
[12:09] <EriC^^> mpathy: rename maybe
[12:09] <dorkusmaximus> yeah, in the last day ive installed debian, slackware, fedora, and ubuntu. ubuntu is the only one that didnt have a lot of problems.
[12:10] <mpathy> EriC^^: Yes, but the question is, how I can do it? It would even be okay to have some kind of manual filename search and replace recursively
[12:10] <EriC^^> mpathy: the command rename
[12:10] <EriC^^> mpathy: man rename, it's a perl script that uses sed syntax
[12:11] <nopf> mpathy: or learn emacs, you can use text replace on directory view buffers
[12:11] <EriC^^> don't know if it'srecursive though
[12:12] <EriC^^> mpathy: if it's not recursive you can use the find command with -exec
[12:12] <mpathy> but how can I make a regexp for such weird characters?
[12:14] <mpathy> I am able to use find -exec, I know how to do.. but I struggle on how I can get a selection fitting these weird characters.. which are their right representation?
[12:15] <mpathy> For example it looks like LoÌ?we
[12:15] <mpathy> and should be Löwe
[12:15] <EriC^^> if you search for LoÌ?we does it find it?
[12:16] <mpathy> but the file name looks different in Terminal and in Nautilus. Which is the right representation for the use in a script or command line?
[12:16] <EriC^^> try to use what is in the terminal with find and see if it returns anything
[12:17] <mpathy> no it doesnt.. ls displays it as LoÌ?we.. find does it display as LoÌwe
[12:18] <avoider> Anyone around for support?
[12:18] <EriC^^> ok, find . -iname "LoÌwe" should find it
[12:18] <bekks> avoider: Just ask your question :)
[12:18] <avoider> My indcator on top panel
[12:19] <avoider> keeps giving errors
[12:19] <avoider> and closing
[12:19] <avoider> Keeps asking me to execute i click it and then it pops back up with error and then closes
[12:20] <OerHeks> avoider, so what indicater does that?
[12:20] <EriC^^> mpathy: try rename 's/Ìw/bla/' Lo*
[12:20] <avoider> indicator plugin
[12:20] <avoider> for the top bar on the right hand side
[12:20] <EriC^^> mpathy: it should replace the odd part with bla
[12:20] <k1l_> avoider: which indicator?
[12:21] <avoider> for the panel ?
[12:21] <mileszero> hi all
[12:21] <EriC^^> mpathy: ( in all files that start with Lo )
[12:21] <avoider> That displays the wifi etc etc
[12:21] <k1l_> avoider: "which car is broken?" "my car" " yes but which car model is it?" "my car"
[12:21] <avoider> ubuntu 14
[12:21] <OerHeks> avoider, those are more than one indicators, so which one?
[12:21] <mileszero> can I ask here a xubuntu question, or is there another chatroom?
[12:22] <k1l_> avoider: you mean the whole systray?
[12:22] <avoider> the plugin that states for untiy indicators
[12:22] <mpathy> EriC^^: No it doesnt. Is there some kind of other representation I can use, like when using an ASCII code.. You know, to display the proper Unicode-Code for the char and use that to search?
[12:23] <avoider> the one that shows the volume  wifi connection or lan connection
[12:23] <k1l_> avoider: is it gone at all?
[12:24] <avoider> i have to keep adding it  to the panel
[12:24] <avoider> and in two minutes of it on the panel it gives me a error
[12:24] <k1l_> avoider: what did you do before that happend?
[12:24] <avoider> saying i need to exexute it and then turns off
[12:24] <avoider> nothing
[12:24] <avoider> i updated and rebooted
[12:25] <avoider> apt-get update and then rebooted
[12:25] <avoider> and it started doing that
[12:25] <k1l_> well, apt-get update doesnt do anything to any packages
[12:25] <avoider> well
[12:25] <k1l_> avoider: please run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and put that all into a pastebin
[12:26] <avoider> Thats all that i did
[12:26] <BluesKaj_> avoider, you have to upgrade after updating
[12:26] <mpathy> EriC^^: You know, like in Python where "caf\xe9" would represent "café"
[12:27] <avoider> http://pastebin.com/s5C8shBr
[12:28] <k1l_> avoider: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:28] <mpathy> Such a represenation would be cool. If I can't find another solution, I could do a rename on all possibilities, which shouldnt be more than the umlauts the ß and the accents..
[12:29] <avoider> ok done
[12:30] <k1l_> avoider: and please a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" in a pastebin
[12:30] <pilikeits> firefox is now annoying me :D everytime i want to open torrent file it gives me gedit (default). and that "do this automatically for files like this from now on" is grey, i can't choose it even i select /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[12:31] <avoider> http://pastebin.com/RA2j2u28
[12:31] <Swingline711> pilikeits, isn't there a media tab in firefox' options?
[12:31] <faust> mpathy: what's the output of "echo $LC_CTYPE" in the terminal which has problems
[12:32] <mpathy> faust: I dont know but I send the person my locale output and he says its the same, all de and UTF-8
[12:32] <faust> ok
[12:32] <k1l_> avoider: so maybe its the numix theme ruining it? can you choose the default theme and ions?
[12:33] <k1l_> *icons
[12:33] <mpathy> faust: So if he is right, it would be LC_CTYPE="de_DE.UTF-8"
[12:33] <avoider> ok
[12:33] <pilikeits> Swingline711, what you now try to say?
[12:33] <Swingline711> change the handler settings in the media section of firefox' options.
[12:33] <mpathy> faust: but it is a BSD system he has. but shouldnt be a problem. I even used bsdtar to unpack instead of gnutar
[12:33] <Swingline711> to transmission perhaps
[12:33] <pilikeits> Swingline711, there is that application tab...where is the list...but there isn't torrent
[12:34] <Swingline711> magnet:
[12:34] <Swingline711> maybe?
[12:34] <avoider> i need to reboot
[12:34] <avoider> sec
[12:35] <faust> mpathy: I think that you may have different "chararcter set" set on your (his?) systems, also if he manages to remnames the files the problem will return, maybe it will be better if he set UTF-8 on both machine
[12:35] <xfce> hey i need a good screen recorder any sugestions
[12:35] <m1dnight_> I have a server at home with 16GB ram
[12:35] <m1dnight_> is there anything I can do to put it to use?
[12:35] <faust> m1dnight_: you che give it to me
[12:35] <m1dnight_> oh
[12:36] <xfce> or me
[12:36] <cfhowlett> m1dnight_, send my way
[12:36] <m1dnight_> okay that sounds about right
[12:36] <m1dnight_> A megabyte?
[12:36] <m1dnight_> or how much do you fancy?
[12:36] <mpathy> faust: Well I only can say that he said that he has UTF-8, too
[12:36] <cfhowlett> m1dnight_, I'm in China ... could use a nice VPN ...
[12:36] <pilikeits> Swingline711, hmm....that magnet just opens transmission but then ask the source file......i just want that when i press that torrent it will open it with transmission
[12:37] <k1l_> m1dnight_: better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic since that is not a technical issue :)
[12:37] <faust> mpathy: if he can read the file names correctly on host A and wrong on host B, I have some doubts about it :/
[12:38] <pilikeits> Swingline711, i need to add torrent somehow to that application list...hmmmm
[12:38] <amandius> Hola
[12:39] <xfce> whats a good music player for ubuntu unity
[12:40] <faust> mpathy: howevere to answer your original question, maybe, the best way to manage the problem is by using a scripting language with good unicode support (which is not the case with bash) like python, ruby etc
[12:40] <agent_white> xfce: I like basic players. For a GUI - "deadbeef", and for a console "cmus".
[12:40] <OerHeks> clementine can handle big music collections smoothly
[12:41] <xfce> is clementine an ease of use
[12:41] <agent_white> Make sure to check your locale
[12:42] <xfce> ??
[12:45] <pilikeits> Swingline711, ok hmm...i have never use that magnetlink thingy. so now i think its downloading it. thank you. 100% i always use "download torrent" button
[12:47] <titania_erza> hey
[12:50] <Swingline711> pilikeits, haha, magnet thingy isn't something; it's just like data embedded into the uri itself
[12:50] <mpathy> faust: I made some tests and the checksums of the files are identical. That means I have now a file with correct filename and checksum who fits
[12:50] <Swingline711> a hash and then optionally a decription and additional trackers
[12:50] <Swingline711> sorry, description, should that be.
[12:51] <faust> mpathy: the filenames are correct, but probably they are not UTF-8 this why he cannot see them correcly in an UTF-8 environment
[12:52] <faust> symbols like "ß" exists also in charset that are not UTF-8
[12:52] <pilikeits> Swingline711, but there is one problem. if there is 10 files and i only want one. I can't choose it in early stage i have to wait a while that transmission is starting to download and then i can choose the files.
[12:53] <Swingline711> especially with magnet links I would imagine.
[12:53] <pilikeits> Swingline711, before when i press "download torrent" there came a list of files on my screen where i could choose what to download.
[12:53] <agent_white> pilikeits: It's because it needs to first create the list of all the possible files.
[12:53] <mpathy> faust: yes and äüö too.. so I really wondering what happend
[12:53] <pilikeits> ok
[12:53] <agent_white> So sometimes you need to wait for it to load, before de-selecting unwanted items.
[12:53] <faust> mpathy: maybe I'm missing something
[12:53] <Swingline711> yes magnets are a little bit different since they will need to 'lend' or 'ask' other clients for further information. pilikeits
[12:54] <Swingline711> a physical compiled .torrent file has loads of those things built in. So there is a difference.
[12:54] <pilikeits> Swingline711, ok :) thank you
[12:54] <Swingline711> a magnet only has like a 'hint' of the signature of a torrent file information.
[12:55] <pilikeits> agent_white, thank you for you too :)
[12:55] <coddder> My eth doesn't wrok. However, my wifi works like a charm. Could anyone help?
[12:55] <agent_white> pilikeits: Of course! Swingline711's answer it less vague than mine :P
[12:55] <coddder> Now, I write using wifi.
[12:56] <agent_white> a/it/is/
[12:56] <coddder> I've used inconfig -a and I have the log.
[12:56] <dragonfly> Hi, is there a chance to start a VNC from windows pc to linux?
[12:56] <coddder> *ifconfig
[12:56] <sacarlson> coddder: we can try.  so it's not seen at all with ifconfig ?
[12:56] <Swingline711> there might be some fun things in the magnet: specs so that one could embed much more info than just the most used cases.
[12:56] <Swingline711> like add some more data to provide a little bit more information, but I do not know.
[12:57] <compdoc> coddder, paste the log on pastebin.com
[12:57] <coddder> http://pastebin.com/eJKf94HE
[12:57] <dragonfly> Is it possible to remote desktop my ubuntu from windows pc?
[12:57] <coddder> That's from my school.
[12:57] <coddder> However, the same problem at home.
[12:58] <sacarlson> coddder: so were is the wlan ?
[12:58] <agent_white> dragonfly: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/remote-windows-linux.html
[12:58] <egg_> hi everyone
[12:58] <coddder> I tried to download sth
[12:58] <coddder> 1,1 kb and then stopped or sth like it
[12:58] <dragonfly> @agent_white I know about this but I mean like full graphic display?
[12:59] <coddder> I use firefox and lubuntu 14.04 LTS. I tried 14.10 and problem ... the same?
[12:59] <compdoc> what is sth?
[12:59] <coddder> sth - something
[12:59] <coddder> Maybe I should try another browser? No idea left ...
[13:00] <egg_> i m .looking for a command to solve my problem. i was running a dualboot Win7/ubuntu, i would like to reset an hard drive to install only win 7. i formated the Hard drive and now when i try to install seven i get a grub rescue screen. what can i do to delete grub  please ?
[13:01] <compdoc> according to your ifconfig, it has no ip address. Its also assigned eth2, instead of eth0
[13:01] <compdoc> but eth2 can work, as long as it has an address
[13:01] <agungspy> hay
[13:02] <shadowe989> coddder: try downloading via command line before u go through the trouble of switching.
[13:03] <shadowe989> coddder: wget ipv4.download.thinkbroadband.com/100MB.zip
[13:03] <shadowe989> coddder: if that has the same problem then it might be something more.
[13:04] <coddder> @shadowe989 I'll however I have to go offline for a moment.
[13:04] <dragonfly> Does anyone know how to get remote desktop display connection with graphic monitoring from windows 7 to ubuntu?
[13:04] <coddder> I mean, to disconnect wifi
[13:04] <shadowe989> coddder: I'll  be here just type my name and hit tab to get my attention.
[13:04] <coddder> Really thanks
[13:05] <coddder> IMHO the problem doesn't exist on Windows
[13:05] <shadowe989> coddder: if wget (web get) has a problem then we know something is up with linux then. Then we can check into other things.
[13:06] <theadmin> egg_: You don't have to remove GRUB, Windows will overwrite the bootloader after installation.
[13:06] <theadmin> egg_: Just boot from a Windows DVD
[13:07] <theadmin> egg_: You need to tell your BIOS to boot from it
[13:07] <mpathy> faust: EriC^^: I found a tool because I started another search because I didnt believe nobody worked on this topic already, and I had (finally) success: h2rename - http://www.heise.de/ct/artikel/H2rename-Dateien-und-Verzeichnisse-umbenennen-292168.html - it works automagically ;)
[13:07] <shadowe989> egg_: theadmin is correct, windows will replace it with its own.
[13:08] <egg_> theadmin: ok i m going to try
[13:08] <dragonfly> Please, can somebody help me..?
[13:08] <EriC^^> mpathy: great! :)
[13:08] <egg_> shadowe989: thx to you too
[13:08] <theadmin> dragonfly: I didn't really understand the "graphic monitoring" part, but TeamViewer is one of the easiest remote desktop tools to set up for Windows, Linux and OS X
[13:08] <faust> mpathy: good :)
[13:08] <godbod>   
[13:09] <shadowe989> dragonfly: I just signed in, maybe I might be able to help real quick.
[13:09] <UnHolyTerror> dragonfly, what is the problem you are having?
[13:09] <shadowe989> dragonfly: what is the problem?
[13:09] <shadowe989> egg_: np good luck =)
[13:09] <coddder_> @shadowe989 unable to resolve the host...
[13:09] <coddder_> And u can see, wifi works like a charm
[13:09] <compdoc> dragonfly, you can try installing vino, which lets you share the desktop
[13:10] <shadowe989> coddder_: do you know how to configure "DNS Settings"?
[13:10] <dragonfly> Well i would like to remote desktop on my linux machines one is ubuntu another is kali but anways I don't want the terminal remote desktop connection.. I would like a "display" connection like when you are connecting with TV from windows to windows..
[13:10] <shadowe989> coddder_: or have you ruled that out?
[13:11] <UnHolyTerror> dragonfly, so you don't want SSH, you want GUI???
[13:11] <dragonfly> yes GUI
[13:11] <coddder_> shadowe989 no ... however, I've tried many solutions and I think that I should reinstall lubuntu.
[13:11] <UnHolyTerror> Ok, what desktop are you using (on Ubuntu)?
[13:11] <coddder_> shadowe989 I mean before doing sth else
[13:11] <egg_> shadowe989: theadmin  / i cant reach the bios, i get a error unknow filesystem
[13:12] <theadmin> egg_: You are skipping the BIOS setup
[13:12] <shadowe989> coddder_: well 1sec let me see, so your ethernet is the problem right?
[13:12] <dragonfly> Amm I'm sorry what do you mean by what desktop?
[13:12] <theadmin> egg_: You can "reach" the BIOS even without a hard drive
[13:12] <coddder_> shadowe989 yes
[13:12] <coddder_> How I've said, wifi works like a charm
[13:12] <shadowe989> coddder_: do you know the ip to your router?
[13:12] <UnHolyTerror> dragonfly, what ubuntu are you using?
[13:13] <dragonfly> 14.04 64 bit
[13:13] <shadowe989> coddder_: like for me its, 192.168.2.1
[13:13] <coddder_> shadowe989
[13:13] <shadowe989> coddder_: try to ping it via: ping 192.168.2.1
[13:13] <coddder_> shadowe989 I think that it's not related to my router because the same problem at school
[13:13] <sacarlson> coddder_: sounds like you might have a good eth2 but you just don't set it up
[13:13] <UnHolyTerror> dragonfly, is it GNOME, KDE, etc?
[13:13] <dragonfly> gnome
[13:14] <shadowe989> coddder_, sacarlson thats what im leaning towards.
[13:14] <coddder_> shadowe989 I can reinstall my lubuntu to delete all the used solutions and write tomorrow.
[13:14] <sacarlson> coddder_: iwconfig will verifty that eth2 is not your wifi
[13:14] <shadowe989> coddder_: I do not think reformating will help if its a configuration issue or driver.
[13:14] <UnHolyTerror> Ok, what have you tried? I use 'Remote Desktop Viewer' found under Menu->Internet
[13:15] <dragonfly> Yes but I want to connect to ubuntu from windows not from ubuntu to windows.
[13:15] <shadowe989> coddder_: its most likely just a quick fix.
[13:15] <coddder_> shadowe989 yes but I tried to disable some things ... and I think that it can cause other problem
[13:16] <sacarlson> coddder_: if eth2 is your wifi then you might try sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[13:16] <shadowe989> sacarlson: did he say it said eth2?
[13:16] <shadowe989> sacarlson: wlan0 should be for wireless generally.
[13:16] <dragonfly> UnHolyTerror: I can connect from ubuntu to windows, but I want to connect from windows to ubuntu via GUI
[13:16] <sacarlson> coddder_: yes he pastebinit ifconfig but all that was seen was eth2 and lo
[13:17] <coddder_> It was from my school where there is only eth
[13:17] <coddder_> no wifi
[13:17] <coddder_> but the same problem with eth at home
[13:17] <coddder_> and wifi works like a charm
[13:17] <coddder_> what's more, on Windows at school eth works
[13:17] <UnHolyTerror> dragonfly, ok, so you need to tell ubuntu to allow Remote Desktop, look under Preferences->Remote desktop or something like that (I'm on 10.10)
[13:18] <sacarlson> coddder_: well we would need to know what is the wifi and what is cat5 lan  with iwconfig  that can be done
[13:18] <coddder_> I don't think that format can help but It can make it clear that there aren't problems related with the previous solutions
[13:18] <dragonfly> Yes but amm what software should I use? Teamviewer?
[13:19] <shadowe989> dragonfly: vnc is built in ubuntu for remote desktop
[13:19] <shadowe989> !vnc
[13:19] <dragonfly> Aha thanks.
[13:19] <shadowe989> !remmina
[13:19] <coddder_> So sacarlson and  shadowe989 I'll write your nicknames and I'll write after formatting
[13:19] <dragonfly> This is what I have needed! Thanks a lot!
[13:20] <UnHolyTerror> Once you set up that, just use Remote Desktop from windows to connect.
[13:20] <coddder_> U are from USA? Because thing is that I'm from Poland and the time can be a problem
[13:20] <dragonfly> Ok thank you all UnHolyTerror, Shadowe989, ubottu
[13:20] <dragonfly> thanks!
[13:20] <shadowe989> coddder_: Yeah I am but I'm a dev so I'm up around those times.
[13:21] <shadowe989> dragonfly: np take care. =)
[13:22] <coddder_> shadowe989 so I'll format to make it clear that nothing else could be a problem and then write ;)
[13:23] <coddder_> shadowe989 So I'll write and really thanks for help ;)
[13:24] <shadowe989> coddder_: sounds like a plan =)
[13:25] <coddder_> shadowe989 At school I use 14.10 on usb (not live but normal installation), I can make a log from there too. Do it with 14.10 or install 14.04? ;)
[13:25] <coddder_> shadowe989 But IMHO I think that It can be left because the same problem at home
[13:26] <shadowe989> coddder_: I generally stick with the long term release editions, but it doesn't really matter. Pick what you like best.
[13:27] <shadowe989> coddder_: true it might be driver issue or something, check your PMs on irc.
[13:28] <Guest33433> Hi
[13:29] <Guest33433> any one can help?
[13:29] <shadowe989> Guest33433: hi =)
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !help | Guest33433
[13:29] <Guest33433> ok sorry
[13:29] <mynameisdeleted> whats the command to turn on a system tray if unity+compiz was started manually?
[13:30] <mynameisdeleted> I'd like to see my volume control applet
[13:30] <Guest33433> Any one can help me to install this package without errors
[13:30] <Guest33433> kaffeine_0.8.7-1ubuntu5.1_i386.deb
[13:30] <EriC^^> mynameisdeleted: try indicator-application-service
[13:31] <shadowe989> mynameisdeleted: killing X will restart your display but you'll lose your current windows you have open. =( but I think EriC^^ is right.
[13:33] <OerHeks> !info kaffeine
[13:34] <OerHeks> Guest33433, why such old version ?
[13:34] <shadowe989> Guest33433: sudo dpkg -i kaffeine*.deb
[13:34] <shadowe989> Guest33433: im not sure what error your getting
[13:34] <Guest33433> ok sir let me explain what
[13:34] <shadowe989> Guest33433: sure =)
[13:35] <Guest33433> ok such old version ,some friends wants to share sattlite chanels by a plugin
[13:35] <mynameisdeleted> so that started the language switcher.. but still cant see sound control in menu bar
[13:36] <Guest33433> so I  ,l write some errors what they get
[13:36] <mynameisdeleted> with kde it was easy to start and stop all parts manually from cmdline
[13:36] <shadowe989> mynameisdeleted: does rebooting not solve this?
[13:36] <w00tburger> anyone recomment any free courses or programs for disassembly?
[13:36] <mynameisdeleted> doesnt hurt to reboot
[13:36] <mynameisdeleted> I had to kill lightdm to re-install nvidia driver
[13:37] <cfhowlett> w00tburger, ##linux would know
[13:37] <EriC^^> mynameisdeleted: try  gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.sound visible true
[13:37] <mynameisdeleted> after some package upgrade messed that up
[13:37] <Guest33433> configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found!
[13:37] <Guest33433> Please check whether you installed KDE correctly -
[13:37] <shadowe989> mynameisdeleted: oh educational my bad.
[13:37] <EriC^^> mynameisdeleted: try setting it to false then true
[13:37] <shadowe989> Guest33433: ok sec
[13:38] <mynameisdeleted> this time to start unity I started an xterm in an x server.. ran the command "unity"
[13:38] <mynameisdeleted> to start it
[13:38] <mynameisdeleted> had to kill and restart compiz for the decorations to come out right
[13:38] <mynameisdeleted> is there 1 command I can type to start unity 100% proper?
[13:38] <EriC^^> mynameisdeleted: why are you starting unity manually?
[13:38] <mynameisdeleted> from a plain old xterm failsafe?
[13:38] <mynameisdeleted> because when I logged in with unity it took 10 mins and didnt go anywhere
[13:38] <Guest33433> shadowe989 :when we use the source code also face the same error
[13:39] <EriC^^> mynameisdeleted: there's setsid unity
[13:39] <EriC^^> mynameisdeleted: you can use that to restart unity too
[13:39] <mynameisdeleted> that worked amazingly fast....
[13:39] <mynameisdeleted> mcuh better than rebootign the computer for 1 crashed application
[13:40] <mynameisdeleted> (which I think is a terrible suggestion)
[13:40] <shadowe989> Guest33433: try: "apt-get install -f"
[13:40] <mynameisdeleted> actually that same recommendation was why I switchede my other computer to kde... didnt want to have to reboot my file/print server every time the desktop crashed
[13:41] <Guest33433> ashadowe989:then?
[13:41] <shadowe989> Guest33433: try to run it again after that.
[13:41] <Guest33433> i.e whats the next step if I faild?
[13:41] <shadowe989> Guest33433: wait a moment while I look into it.
[13:42] <Guest33433> ok thank you I shall do it for my fraind
[13:43] <mynameisdeleted> the services I wanted( I found them) are indicator-sound-service and indicator-datetime-service
[13:43] <mynameisdeleted> all good now
[13:43] <shadowe989> Guest33433: what happens when you type: "which kde4-config"
[13:44] <shadowe989> Guest46792: does it find a path or nothing?
[13:45] <shadowe989> mynameisdeleted: nice =)
[13:45] <mynameisdeleted> all sorts of ubuntu forums or ubuntu related help areas have questions about how to make the system tray reappear if it doesnt show
[13:45] <mynameisdeleted> now I have an answer how to start manually .. but woudl like to make sure that answer is more complete
[13:46] <mynameisdeleted> there are a list of folders in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-*
[13:46] <mynameisdeleted> each folder contains a binary with a service name
[13:46] <mynameisdeleted> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service is for sound for x86_64
[13:46] <mynameisdeleted> replace x86_64 for i386 based or arm based systems
[13:48] <Simplex7> Hey. Does any one have a chrubuntu on intel chromebook?
[13:49] <mynameisdeleted> indicator-keyboard service is an exception that is not in a subfolder but in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ directly
[13:49] <shadowe989> Simplex7: I use to, I flashed my bios though.
[13:49] <mynameisdeleted> as is indicator-applet-complete(which doesnt do as its name suggests)
[13:49] <shadowe989> Simplex7: Whats your question?
[13:50] <Simplex7> Recently i have started to here a click coming from inside my Laptop
[13:50] <shadowe989> Simplex7: Acer C7?
[13:50] <Simplex7> its sounds like Click...Click its almost on a tempo
[13:50] <Simplex7> Yes
[13:50] <shadowe989> Simplex7: left side?
[13:50] <shadowe989> Simplex7: or does it come from the right hand side of the laptop?
[13:50] <Simplex7> It's not doing so at the moment but it's hard to Tell
[13:51] <Simplex7> So left side and right side mean to different things?
[13:51] <Simplex7> two*
[13:54] <xvzf> hi I installed skype on my Lubuntu 14.04. I hear the system sounds but I cannot make the microphone work. I installed pavucontrol to no avail. On pavucontrol I see that the microphone is working, still, when I test skype I cannot hear my recorded voice. What can I do?
[13:54] <shadowe989> Simplex7: yeah if you want to make it do something just type: while True; echo {a..z}{1..9}; done
[13:55] <shadowe989> Simplex7: it will cause a loop of spam to heat up your laptop some, if you hear the clicking then. let me know. Then It might be what my problem was.
[13:55] <shadowe989> control + c , control + d multiple times to make it stop.
[13:56] <Simplex7> What was your problem if i might ask.
[13:56] <shadowe989> Simplex7: cheap fan heatsink. Its clicking away right now at my desk heh.
[13:56] <shadowe989> Simplex7: right hand side clicks = hard drive failure but we can test for that.
[13:57] <shadowe989> Simplex7: heat sink is on the left.
[13:57] <Simplex7> Oh ok. I think i might be on the left because im currently using the laptop and if it was a HD failure i don't think i would be able to use it lol
[13:58] <shadowe989> Simplex7: Linux would be warning you like crazy too if it was failing.
[13:58] <Simplex7> I think it might be the heat sink. i'll double check next time it happends
[13:58] <Simplex7> happens*
[13:58] <Simplex7> And i can imagine lol
[13:58] <Simplex7> Thanks why Linux Rocks bro
[13:59] <shadowe989> Simplex7: Yeah, its no big deal if its the fan, just one day take it apart or blow some air in the vent.
[13:59] <Simplex7> Alright Awesome glad to hear it was not as serious as i thought it was
[14:00] <shadowe989> Yea =)
[14:00] <Simplex7> Your Awesome Bud Thanks for the Help.
[14:00] <shadowe989> Simplex7: anytime, take it easy.
[14:00] <Simplex7> I've add you to my friends list. Catch you around my friend.
[14:00] <Simplex7> Have an amazing day.
[14:01] <shadowe989> ty, you too =)
[14:03] <Fazer2> hi, I want to patch qt package and upload it to PPA, should I use this tutorial? http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/patches-to-packages.html
[14:04] <paulzz> I add this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~boost-latest/+archive/ubuntu/ppa by running sudo add-apt-repository ppa:boost-latest/ppa -y then I try to install using sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev by this is only installing version 46 rather then 55, how do I install version 55?
[14:04] <shadowe989> Fazer2: I think theres a ubuntu-dev channel on here that might be able to help you.
[14:05] <Fazer2> shadowe989: alright, thanks
[14:05] <shadowe989> Fazer2: this is more of end user support mostly.
[14:05] <shadowe989> Fazer2: good luck.
[14:06] <belgianguy> paulzz: from the distributor, Ubuntu packages often are not the latest version
[14:06] <paulzz> belgianguy: ya thats why I added that PPA I linked
[14:06] <belgianguy> and does it list its version as 55?
[14:06] <paulzz> if you look in the PPA you see version 55 is in there
[14:06] <shadowe989> paulzz: apt-get install packagename=version
[14:07] <acovrig> aplay -l shows my HDMI audio and Kmixer shows it, bit it is greyed out, why would it be greyed out, and how do I fix it? (I’m guessing its a simple modprobe, but not sure what)
[14:08] <paulzz> shadowe989: how do I know the package name? In the ppa under package it just says "boost1.55"? But it has 3 listed with versions "1.55.0-1ppa1~saucy1" "1.55.0-1ppa1~quantal1" etc?
[14:08] <belgianguy> there doesn't seem to be a utopic
[14:09] <paulzz> Is the package name to give to apt-get install the name from here: https://launchpad.net/~boost-latest/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages under "source" ?
[14:09] <shadowe989> paulzz: ok sec i'll check the ppa, on a non gui system atm.
[14:09] <shadowe989> paulzz: nah source isn't what you want. 1sec
[14:09] <paulzz> shadowe989
[14:09] <paulzz> ok :)
[14:10] <shadowe989> paulzz: you on ubuntu 14.04?
[14:10] <acovrig> also, the desired output shows in aplay -l but not lcpci, any ideas why?
[14:10] <paulzz> 12.04 LTS
[14:14] <acovrig> alsamixer -c 0 seems to let me change it, but no audio goes out because it isn’t default
[14:14] <paulzz> shadowe989: oh btw its 12.04 server if that makes any diff
[14:15] <firebird1> hailo
[14:15] <shadowe989> paulzz: nah
[14:17] <acovrig> what modprobe do I need to access my onboard Intel HDMI as an audio device?
[14:17] <EriC^^> paulzz: you want this package boost1.55 	1.55.0-1ppa1~precise1
[14:17] <paulzz> EriC^^: so apt-get install 1.55.0-1ppa1~precise1 ?
[14:17] <shadowe989> paulzz: since your a dev it might just be easier to remove boost1.49 with autoremove and build it due to the dependencies in the repos for 12.04.
[14:18] <EriC^^> paulzz: try apt-get install boost1.55
[14:19] <shadowe989> EriC^^: that could work if the other packages are not out of date. I never used boost python libs =/
[14:19] <paulzz> EriC^^: I get an error with that: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable that you have
[14:20] <EriC^^> paulzz: does apt-get see the package
[14:20] <reeed> strange. the buttons to 'restart' or 'shutdown' my computer are grayed out in the lightDM login dialog
[14:20] <paulzz> yes but wont install: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libogre-1.9-dev : Depends: libboost-dev but it is not going to be installed
[14:20] <EriC^^> paulzz: try apt-cache policy boost1.55 , see if it mentions the precise package and the ppa
[14:20] <reeed> and in the KDE start menu, the options don't exist at all
[14:20] <EriC^^> paulzz: oh ok
[14:20] <paulzz> not sure what this means :s
[14:21] <EriC^^> paulzz: did you try sudo apt-get -f install ?
[14:21] <paulzz> no I'll try it
[14:22] <EriC^^> paulzz: seems that libogre-... has an unmet dependency which is libboost-dev , but it can't be installed for some reason, you can check sudo apt-get install libboost-dev and see why it can't be installed
[14:22] <belgianguy> paulzz: try 'sudo apt-cache search boost'
[14:23] <belgianguy> that should list the packages available
[14:25] <paulzz> ah boost installs now, its  libogre-1.9-dev that is causing the failure, even with the -f option
[14:26] <paulzz> I am using the openmw/openmw ppa for libogre-1.9-dev perhaps I need to find another one
[14:27] <belgianguy> what is the error?
[14:28] <acovrig> cat /proc/asound/cards only shows my analog onboard, and there is just /proc/asound/card0, which is my analog, but nothing hdmi
[14:28] <popey> acovrig: is snd_hda_codec_hdmi loaded?
[14:28] <paulzz> this one The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libogre-1.9-dev : Depends: libboost-dev but it is not going to be installed
[14:28] <popey> acovrig: lsmod | grep snd_hda_codec_hdmi
[14:28] <paulzz> (even though boost 1.55 is installed)
[14:29] <acovrig> popey: yes, it seems to be
[14:29] <popey> acovrig: does the hdmi not show up in the mixer -> output ?
[14:29] <acovrig> popey: in kmixer?
[14:29] <popey> oh, kubuntu?
[14:29] <popey> no idea, sorry.
[14:30] <popey> acovrig: http://imgur.com/46dJPFa is what i see on unity
[14:30] <belgianguy> paulzz: maybe purge everything boost related and have libogre-1.9-dev pull in its dependencies again?
[14:31] <Noobproblems> HI everyone
[14:31] <Noobproblems> can someone help me with a question?
[14:31] <paulzz> belgianguy: how would I purge boost?
[14:31] <acovrig> popey: it shows up, but is greyed out; it doesn’t show up in lspci (grep -i hdmi) but does show up in aplay -l...
[14:32] <acovrig> popey: yea, I would be using unity, but for some reason it is broken on my system, I tried just about everything and sat on this IRC for a while, but KDE is starting to grow on me, so I guess I’m fine...
[14:32] <popey> heh
[14:32] <Noobproblems> I recently installed Ubuntu into a small partition, but now I can't choose between windows 8 or ubuntu when I start up my PC, what can I do to fix this?
[14:32] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: !question
[14:32] <shadowe989> blah lol
[14:32] <Noobproblems> !question
[14:32] <belgianguy> paulzz: sudo apt-get remove libboost-all-dev
[14:33] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: ok
[14:33] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: lets see so what does it boot to.
[14:33] <acovrig> popey: HDMI has shown up in system sounds when unity was working...
[14:33] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: Windows?
[14:33] <Noobproblems> no, it always boots to ubuntu
[14:33] <bibi234> I'm using screen on a remote ssh server on which I'm connected through ssh, at some point I've been disconnected, when I was on the sreen, now when I log to the server I can't retrieve the screen why?
[14:33] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: and you're sure windows is installed correct?
[14:34] <acovrig> bibi234: did you do screen -x or screen -dr?
[14:34] <acovrig> bibi234: or screen -r
[14:34] <bibi234> it looks like it's still there : 6954.import	(30/07/2014 16:04:36)	(Attached)
[14:34] <Noobproblems> yeah, I had windows just 10 minutes ago,
[14:34] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: sorry have to ask the obvious lol
[14:34] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: ok 1sec we'll get this fixed =)
[14:34] <acovrig> bibi234: I put “screen -x -R -S lo” in my .profile so anytime I connect it resumes the session
[14:34] <bibi234> acovrig: I've tried sreen -r import as usual
[14:34] <Noobproblems> thanks :)
[14:35] <acovrig> bibi234: what happens if you do screen -x
[14:35] <bibi234> acovrig: how I'm back on it now, thanks!
[14:35] <bibi234> I didn't know about this
[14:35] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: sudo update-grub
[14:35] <l3dx> I've just completed installing ubuntu, but for some reason all content of my /home is not available. I tried booting the live-usb again, and from there I see that I have both /home/thomas and /home/@home/thomas
[14:35] <acovrig> popey: is modprobe snd-hda-codec-hdmi the only modprobe I need?
[14:35] <l3dx> this is a LVM setup
[14:36] <Noobproblems> shadowe989 where do I put that command? I'm new to linux, sorry!
[14:36] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: not a problem. =)
[14:36] <l3dx> /home/thomas is my old home folder, while the other one is new
[14:36] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: press control + alt + t
[14:36] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: at your desktop
[14:36] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: a terminal should appear correct?
[14:36] <Noobproblems> yes, it's now updating and it's done
[14:37] <popey> acovrig: you shouldn't need that
[14:37] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: grub is the bootloader that handles that stuff
[14:37] <popey> acovrig: I mean, you shouldn't have to be fiddling with kernel modules
[14:37] <popey> acovrig: dunno why it's greyed out though, sorry.
[14:37] <Noobproblems> shadowe989 so, if I restart the PC I will be able to choose now?
[14:37] <acovrig> popey: I wonder if when I purged everything graphical a while back, if I killed something I shouldn’t have
[14:37] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: strange enough ubuntu generally doesn't wipe windows from the boot menu... hmm
[14:37] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: yes in theory but stay connected just incase.
[14:38] <Noobproblems> I think I did something wrong while installing it.
[14:38] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: why do you say that
[14:38] <Noobproblems> Because I have 2 harddrives
[14:38] <Noobproblems> one SSD and a HDD
[14:38] <Noobproblems> the SSD has the windows but I partioned the HDD
[14:38] <Noobproblems> to install ubuntu
[14:38] <Noobproblems> I think somehow I have messed up the SSD
[14:38] <bibi234> acovrig: by curiosity, an you tell me what happened? Now when I get out of the screen I can only use "screen -x" to get back in
[14:39] <bibi234> screen -r screenName doesn't work anymore
[14:39] <Noobproblems> I will restart it now. Hope it works!
[14:39] <Noobproblems> thank you very much!
[14:39] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: ok, hopefully it works, good luck!
[14:39] <acovrig> bibi234: I’m guessing it wasn’t matching the screenname propperly, which is strange
[14:39] <shadowe989> Noobproblems: come back if it doesn't, we'll figure it out. :)
[14:41] <avoider> hi yes the plugin indicator is still acting up even when i went back the the defult ubuntu themes.
[14:41] <paulzz>  libogre-1.9-dev wants to use boost 46, is there I way I can make it install ignoring boost 46 as I want it to use version 55?
[14:41] <Noobproblemsolve> shadowe989 thank you very much, it worked perfectly!
[14:41] <avoider> Still telling me i have to execute it and i do that keeps popping up with that error
[14:41] <shadowe989> Noobproblemsolve: awesome. =)
[14:41] <Noobproblemsolve> now, off to experience ubuntu!
[14:41] <Noobproblemsolve> thanks guys!
[14:41] <shadowe989> Noobproblemsolve: enjoy! =D
[14:42] <avoider> Any ideas?
[14:44] <avoider> Here is a picture of the current issue
[14:44] <avoider> http://i.imgur.com/TEivVNO.png
[14:44] <avoider> Thats what keeps popping up repeatedly
[14:46] <acovrig> popey: cat /proc/asound/modules shows snd_hda_intel, should it show some HDMI option?
[14:48] <acovrig> mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.7 works, but any idea how I would set it as system default?
[14:49] <solsTiCe> acovrig: if i remember well into ~/.maplyerrc ?
[14:50] <acovrig> solsTiCe: I want to set it system-wide, not just for mplayer
[14:50] <belgianguy> paulzz: if OGRE has a dependency on 46 why change it?
[14:51] <acovrig> solsTiCe: should I put pcm.!default { type hw card 0 device 7 } in my /etc/asound.conf ?
[14:52] <paulzz> belgianguy: because the other code that uses ogre fails to build with that version of boost because that version of boost has a bug that the other code hits
[14:54] <belgianguy> paulzz: care to tell what bug?
[14:54] <belgianguy> maybe someone else has had it before
[14:55] <paulzz> belgianguy: it fails to build when boost::shared_ptr is used when cpp11 is enabled in the compiler options
[14:57] <Vladimirski> I ping my server remotely but when I shutdown the server the ping is still successful??
[14:57] <Vladimirski> I ping my server remotely but when I shutdown the server the ping is still successful??
[14:57] <Vladimirski> so the public IP is the router I guess
[14:57] <Vladimirski> My question, how do I ping the server specifically?S
[14:58] <hehe> hey folks I installed usb huawei stick it asks for pin i also set correct provider data but then enable mobile broadband box is greyed out
[14:58] <hehe> how I can enable it?
[14:59] <daftykins> Vladimirski: from on the internet? you can't
[14:59] <daftykins> Vladimirski: assuming you're talking about a computer behind a router with SSH port forwarded
[14:59] <Vladimirski> can't I just specify the port (port forwarding port) daftykins
[14:59] <Vladimirski> yep
[15:00] <hehe> do I need usb modem switch
[15:00] <daftykins> Vladimirski: ping is a completely different protocol (ICMP) than TCP and UDP, you can't ping ports.
[15:01] <paulzz> hehe: only way would be to forward all ICMP to the ubuntu machine
[15:01] <hehe> paulzz: how to do it?
[15:01] <Vladimirski> yeah, but it must be possible somehow to ping a machine behind a router
[15:01] <Vladimirski> daftykins:
[15:01] <daftykins> Vladimirski: no.
[15:02] <daftykins> Vladimirski: not unless you had a second host you can connect into and ping the first via its' local address. it's simply not possible
[15:02] <daftykins> also this topic is more relevant for #networking not here
[15:02] <Vladimirski> thanks=)
[15:02] <paulzz> hehe: dunno, I think it can be done with iptables, dunno about a hardware router
[15:03] <daftykins> paulzz: you read the wrong nickname.
[15:03] <DroneDx> pt
[15:03] <daftykins> you're both discussing wrong topics ;)
[15:03] <paulzz> oh woops ;]
[15:06] <belgianguy> paulzz: is there a ticket of that bug somewhere?
[15:06] <mohamedAziz17> Hello guys
[15:06] <belgianguy> maybe that can shed some light on it
[15:07] <belgianguy> but I'm afraid PPA's are out if you want to use 55
[15:10] <paulzz> belgianguy: cant find one, nearest is this https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/8469
[15:12] <belgianguy> paulzz: is the cpp11 essential?
[15:12] <belgianguy> if yes, maybe building from source might be an option, but that's a whole other tin of worms
[15:14] <mikhkael_k33hl> My laptop seems to overheat and turn off instantly when using bumblee to run dota 2.
[15:14] <strikov> Hi guys. I just installed 14.04 on raid1 and observe strange difference in behavior against 12.04. This difference takes place when I try to boot the machine with degraded raid (with one hdd turned off). 12.04 tells me something like 'raid is degraded, do you want to continue, y/N?' during kernel initialization but 14.04 freezes for a few seconds and silently continues booting. Is there any way to return to 12.04's behavior which seems much more inform
[15:14] <strikov> ative to me? Thanks.
[15:14] <daftykins> mikhkael_k33hl: sounds more like a hardware issue. perhaps you need to clean it internally of dust.
[15:15] <mikhkael_k33hl> daftykins: It's a laptop and it doesn't happen on windows
[15:15] <daftykins> mikhkael_k33hl: oh well, optimus functionality isn't great under Linux, either test with nvidia-prime also or it's not likely to be an option
[15:15] <mohamedAziz17> Hello
[15:17] <belgianguy> paulzz: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:n9pwG1VSQrgJ:ubuntuxtreme.com/howto/how-to-install-ogre-sdk-from-source/&hl=en&gl=be&strip=1
[15:17] <mikhkael_k33hl> daftykins: You knhow, I was running Ubuntu before and didn't have any problem, then I switched distro then went back. :D
[15:17] <belgianguy> the url wouldn't load otherwise, so it's the text only version :/
[15:18] <k1l_> mikhkael_k33hl: bumblebee is outdated.
[15:18] <daftykins> mikhkael_k33hl: what version is this then?
[15:18] <k1l_> mikhkael_k33hl: use nvidia-prime instead
[15:19] <mikhkael_k33hl> daftykins: ubuntu 14.04
[15:19] <daftykins> k1l_: even though that's the official line, prime doesn't work as well for 90% of users so it's pretty terrible advice
[15:19] <k1l_> daftykins: most users coming here with issue have gotten prime to work
[15:19] <daftykins> yeah with massive tearing
[15:20] <daftykins> k1l_: seems to me it goes thusly: 1) bumblebee works with lower performance but perfect image 2) nvidia-prime sometimes works but has major tearing on the desktop or in games
[15:22] <jevonia> Hi, this is a long story. I need to know how I can get my computer to require the password in order to log in. My best friend managed to put a password back on my account as administrator but it doesn't require it o log in. also, every time I open Google Chrome browser it asks me to put a password in for whatever reason and I have to use my old password for that. I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.
[15:22] <k1l> mikhkael_k33hl: nevertheless: remove all nvidia and bumblebee you got there. then install nvidia-331 and nvidia-prime. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[15:25] <Z3> Hi, I have a clean install of ubuntu 14.04 64 bit with encrypted home partition. I defined a swap partition of 2 GB at install time. But after install, swap is not available. What is the best way to enable swap ?
[15:25] <Z3> sorry, encrypted home (no extra partition)
[15:26] <cfhowlett> !swap | Z3
[15:26] <Z3> cfhowlett I know that. But how can I enable it?
[15:26] <popey> jevonia: there's an option in system settings -> user accounts to enable "automatic login" (or in your case disable it)
[15:26] <Z3> it's a default install, is weird it is not enabled by default
[15:27] <popey> Z3: is it listed in /etc/fstab ?
[15:27] <daftykins> Z3: the idea is you read the link to find out how to check it / turn it on :)
[15:27] <jevonia> Popey: Well, that's the thing it's not enabled, nor was it ever enabled.
[15:27] <popey> jevonia: thats where you go to switch it
[15:28] <Z3> popey. yes, this is my fstab:
[15:28] <popey> Z3: maybe paste into a pastebin like paste.ubuntu.com
[15:28] <jevonia> Popey: Yeah I know, but it's not enabled.
[15:28] <rjoouhrnincyk> hello :)
[15:29] <Z3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9174366/
[15:29] <rjoouhrnincyk> n00b question does turning off affect's in compiz speed unity up?
[15:29] <popey> jevonia: is it set somewhere in /etc/lightdm/ ?
[15:29] <popey> rjoouhrnincyk: in general, yes.
[15:30] <EriC^^> Z3: looks like you have an encrypted swap
[15:30] <rjoouhrnincyk> popey, i kinda thought so, thank's, wasn't sure
[15:30] <popey> Z3: what happens if you "sudo swapon -a" ?
[15:30] <EriC^^> Z3: type free -m and see if it shows up
[15:30] <Z3> swapon: /dev/sda2: read swap header failed: Invalid argument
[15:30] <Z3> swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: stat failed: No such file or directory
[15:31] <jevonia> Popey: Sorry, I don't know where that is. I'm still new to Ubuntu
[15:31] <popey> jevonia: open nautilus, press ctrl+L, in the box at the top type "/etc/lightdm" then look for files in that folder...
[15:31] <Z3> if an unencrypted swap works, I can switch to that to fix the problem
[15:31] <popey> jevonia: what files are listed
[15:32] <jevonia> Popey: Ok, hold on please.
[15:32] <Z3> Eric^^ I did it:  Swap:            0          0          0
[15:32] <EriC^^> Z3: type sudo parted -l
[15:32] <kazdax> Hello i have given my ubuntu 2 gigs and its running as a virtual machine
[15:33] <kazdax> its using 1.3 gigs
[15:33] <EriC^^> 1.3 gigs?
[15:33] <kazdax> any idea why its using so much ?
[15:33] <mdoge> ubuntu is a bloated pos
[15:33] <kazdax> 1 gig and 300 mb
[15:33] <EriC^^> kazdax: you mean on top of the 6.4gb or so?
[15:33] <Z3> Eric^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/9174416/
[15:33] <kazdax> 2 gigs
[15:33] <kazdax> its has a total of 2 gigs
[15:34] <Z3> Eric^^ the swap partition is 2
[15:34] <cfhowlett> mdoge, then don't use it.
[15:34] <popey> cfhowlett: don't feed the trolls
[15:34] <mdoge> cfhowlett: dont be offended. I was just answering kazdax's question.\
[15:35] <popey> kazdax: how are you measuring the amount of RAM it's using?
[15:35] <kazdax> by using top
[15:35] <cfhowlett> popey, true.  adding to /ignore is much easier in hexchat than xchat.  like this ...
[15:35] <EriC^^> Z3: ok you can use it unencrypted if you want, or make an encrypted one i guess
[15:35] <popey> kazdax: pastebin the top 10 lines of top please?
[15:35] <Z3> Eric^^ ok, then prefer encrypted. What I have to do?
[15:36] <popey> kazdax: also, see http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[15:36] <jevonia> Popey: I don't know what or how to open Nautilus. Please specify if that's not too much to ask for.
[15:36] <k1l> kazdax: linuxatemyram.com
[15:36] <popey> jevonia: nautilus is the name of the file manager
[15:36] <kazdax> eveyrthing is running slow for some reason
[15:36] <kazdax> even i thought ihave 700 mb free
[15:36] <popey> kazdax: are you running Unity in the VM?
[15:36] <kazdax> yes
[15:37] <popey> kazdax: which vm? vmware/virtualbox?
[15:37] <strikov> kazdax: 'free -m' shows that my default installation of 14.04 takes about 1GB while running using virtualbox which ~ correlates with your numbers
[15:37] <kazdax> http://pastebin.com/B1vfnQ3p
[15:37] <kazdax> vmware
[15:38] <popey> kazdax: you have about 700Mb used
[15:38] <popey> the 1.4GB also contains the 700MB cached ram. You have more free memory than you think.
[15:38] <Z3> I fixed following the web page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[15:38] <Z3> thank you ! :)
[15:38] <popey> Z3: happy days
[15:38] <k1l> kazdax: free -m and then the 2nd line. read the link i gave you
[15:39] <flux242> does someone succeeded to connect to a nxserver using remming? I got ssh authentication problem although ssh alone with a password or public key works
[15:39] <rjoouhrnincyk> where is non-help ubuntu chat?
[15:39] <flux242> using remmina I mean
[15:39] <popey> !ot
[15:39] <rjoouhrnincyk> i'm on hexchat
[15:39] <popey> rjoouhrnincyk: ^
[15:39] <rjoouhrnincyk> ok thanks
[15:39] <rjoouhrnincyk> :)
[15:40] <kazdax> i see
[15:40] <kazdax> but then perhaps its not my ram
[15:40] <godbod>  Hello all
[15:40] <kazdax> but when i open mozzila for example..it crashs or slows down
[15:40] <kazdax> saying stuff like ..this script is not working
[15:41] <kazdax> do you wan tto close it or not
[15:41] <kazdax> and after closing it ..the system lags
[15:41] <cfhowlett> kazdax, run it from script and note the error messages
[15:41] <kazdax> when it happens again
[15:41] <kazdax> i will definatly try it
[15:41] <kazdax> for now the ubuntu s running fine
[15:42] <godbod>  anyway to have the location of a computer in bash?
[15:42] <k1l> godbod: why you leave the channel so often?
[15:42] <k1l> godbod: "pwd"
[15:43] <jevonia> Popey: I feel so slow. How do I get to Nautilus, the file manager?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> godbod, you mean like GPS??
[15:43] <popey> jevonia: how do you normally manage your files?
[15:43] <godbod>  no I mean the GPS location
[15:43] <popey> jevonia: there should be a "Files" icon somewhere?
[15:44] <jevonia> Popey: By saving pictures, music, videos, etc. in the folders that specify that.
[15:44] <popey> jevonia: are you using unity?
[15:44] <jevonia> Popey: No, I'm using Ubuntu 14.04
[15:45] <popey> jevonia: Ubuntu 14.04 ships by default with the Unity desktop.
[15:45] <popey> jevonia: there should be an icon on the left which is labelled "Files" - if not, Press ALT+F2, and type nautilus, then press enter. Do you then get a file manager up?
[15:46] <jevonia> Popey: Ok, I'll try.
[15:48] <Silenced> Is any one using irssi ?
[15:48] <jevonia> Popey: Oh my goodness, I opened the right one. Okay, I clicked on it and the files folder opened.
[15:48] <popey> shurokan: many are
[15:48] <popey> jevonia: press CTRL+L, this will open a box at the top where you can type a path
[15:48] <popey> jevonia: type /etc/lightdm in it
[15:49] <jevonia> Popey: Ok, I''l try.
[15:50] <jevonia> Popey: Ok, I did it.
[15:50] <popey> jevonia: what files do you see listed?
[15:54] <mikhael_k33hl> I just finished installing : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics, but I don't see any nvidia panel
[15:54] <mikhael_k33hl> my monitor is even messed up
[15:55] <iLabs> Hello everybody!
[15:56] <EriC^^> hello
[15:56] <Prezident> Hey
[15:56] <iLabs> Can I install Docky?
[15:57] <EriC^^> iLabs: sudo apt-get install docky
[15:58] <Prezident> Why couldnt you iLabs ?
[15:58] <jevonia> Hi, I was talking to Popey. Are you still there?
[15:58] <Prezident> try /msg popey hello.
[16:02] <Lucax> unable to locate package? what to do=
[16:02] <Lucax> ?
[16:02] <agent_white> Lucax: `apt-get update` then search for it again.
[16:03] <mikhael_k33hl> I've installed nvidia-prime, and nvidia-settings, but I can't switch to NVIDIA
[16:03] <Lucax> could not open lock file
[16:04] <agent_white> Lucax: Are you closed out of all your "ubuntu-update" programs?
[16:04] <Lucax> software center jams while installing (applying changes) so I want to remove it and reinstall it. I type sudo apt-get remove software center and then it tells me unable to locate package.
[16:04] <agent_white> Lucax: ie -- synaptic is closed, all other terminals that may be trying to install programs are closed.
[16:04] <pavlix> hi folks
[16:05] <pavlix> how do I list files of a source package on the web? -- More precisely, I want to see the patches Ubuntu uses for network-manager-applet
[16:05] <cfhowlett> pavlix, apt-cache show network-manager-applet
[16:06] <Lucax> yes agent white
[16:06] <pavlix> cfhowlett: and without apt-cache, just on the web?
[16:06] <pavlix> cfhowlett: like in a web git or something?
[16:07] <cfhowlett> pavlix, package search details show should you
[16:07] <Thomasloldk> l
[16:07] <Thomasloldk> sup ppl
[16:07] <agent_white> Lucax: Hm. `sudo -s 'dpkg --configure -a; apt-get install -f'`
[16:07] <pavlix> cfhowlett: not really
[16:07] <Thomasloldk> Do you guys know if thare is a channel for ubuntu mate ?
[16:08] <pavlix> btw I used to use apt-cache show to show metadata, not package files, or did I just lose memory?
[16:08] <pavlix> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet
[16:08] <Thomasloldk> or just ubuntu and its flewors - i mean the desktop ubuntu
[16:08] <pavlix> I'm looking at this page and I can't find the list of patches
[16:08] <cfhowlett> !flavors | Thomasloldk
[16:09] <cfhowlett> Thomasloldk, mate is not an official ubuntu flavor
[16:09] <pavlix> als http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise-updates/network-manager-applet
[16:09] <Lucax> agent white: command not found
[16:09] <pavlix> also
[16:09] <Thomasloldk> cfhowlett oh okay
[16:09] <pavlix> there's a link to the VCS but the link is bad
[16:09] <Lucax> do you mean the whole sentence or one by one
[16:09] <pavlix> cfhowlett: any ideas?
[16:09] <Thomasloldk> cfhowlett what is it then - is it just a spin off like mint ?
[16:10] <pavlix> ah, the link works when I first switch to a newer version of ubuntu
[16:10] <cfhowlett> Thomasloldk, a fork ... but they hope to become an official flavor with 15.04 according to their blog
[16:10] <dorkusmaximus> think i might have a hardware prob or driver prob. i have ubuntu 14.04, intel hd4600 graphics. ever so often, my screen just goes to rapidly flashing bright solid colors and i have to hard resent the computer. any ideas?
[16:10] <DJones> cfhowlett: Thomasloldk: #ubuntu-mate is the support channel for Ubuntu mate, it didn't quite make it to be an official flavour this time, but may well do for the next release
[16:11] <cfhowlett> pavlix, sorry, no idea
[16:11] <cfhowlett> DJones, TY
[16:11] <pavlix> cfhowlett: np, got it
[16:12] <kazdax> will my ubuntu run fine
[16:12] <kazdax> for browsing ane chat
[16:12] <kazdax> on 1 gig ?
[16:12] <Thomasloldk> Djones okay then i just experince that ubuntu mate is like ubuntu without bugs sorry to say but i had a hard time with cooling and with grapic drivers on my laptop ..
[16:12] <cfhowlett> kazdax, yes but lubuntu or xubuntu would be better for low memory
[16:12] <Thomasloldk> cfhowlett oh okay i just thorugt is was - i not into supporting but just talk linux haha and help other ppl
[16:13] <Thomasloldk> need support *
[16:13] <DJones> Thomasloldk: I've not tried it, but hopefully the people in #ubuntu-mate will be able to help you
[16:13] <Thomasloldk> DJones i do not have problems on mate i had on just normal ubuntu ..
[16:13] <DJones> Thomasloldk: Ah, ok
[16:14] <Thomasloldk> DJones bad English sorry :P
[16:14] <jevonia> Hi, this is kind of a long story but here I go. When I installed this and finally updated to Ubuntu 14.04, I had a password on my account. I took the password off for a few minutes because I wanted to see something. Then I tried to put the password back on but it asked for a password which was not set. I tried the previous password but it didn't work. The previous password only works when I open Google Chrome and it asks for some kind of password key or s
[16:14] <jevonia> omething. My best friend managed to put the password protection back on but when it comes to the login screen it doesn't require a password to log into my administrator account even though it has been put back on. Like I said, the previous password still works whenever I open Google Chrome and it asks for some log in key or something but nothing else. I don't know how to get it so that the password is the same for everything on my account and how to make
[16:14] <jevonia> it required for logging into my account.
[16:15] <popey> hello again jevonia
[16:16] <popey> jevonia: can you try this:-  open a terminal with CTRL+ALT+T, then in that terminal, type the following:- cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[16:16] <popey> it should display a file in the terminal
[16:16] <jevonia> oh ok, there you are
[16:16] <popey> is there a line with the word "autologin" anywhere?
[16:18] <jevonia> popey: Ok, I did and it said no such file or directory.
[16:18] <popey> and you typed it directly as I did?
[16:19] <fund> hi folks
[16:19] <fund> i get message no object for d bus interface
[16:19] <fund> when i insert usb miod
[16:19] <fund> modem
[16:19] <fund> what can it be
[16:20] <fund> also is default keyring pass should be user pass-
[16:20] <fund> ?
[16:20] <fund> ty
[16:22] <fund> what can it be
[16:22] <fund> how to fix it? lol
[16:23] <jevonia> popey: yes i did
[16:24] <fun> any ideas?
[16:24] <fun> lol
[16:25] <agent_white> fun: pastie.org
[16:25] <agent_white> fun: Paste ALL your logs, ALL the commands you have entered, and any other pertinent information to help solve your issue.
[16:26] <agent_white> We don't know what "usb modem" you are inserting, how you are inserting it, where you are getting the message from dbus, when keyring is popping up... etc.
[16:26] <popey> jevonia: I am a bit of a loss... http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login seems to cover all the bases though...
[16:26] <agent_white> Please provide a detailed explanation of your issue, so we can help you.
[16:27] <k1> Hi
[16:27] <jevonia> popey: Aw ok, well thank you anyway.
[16:28] <jevonia>  popey: how do i open the link? I tried clicking on it but it didn't work.
[16:28] <agent_white> jevonia: O
[16:28] <anna_> ciao
[16:28] <jevonia> agent_white: yes?
[16:28] <anna_> !list
[16:29] <dorkusmaximus> any idea what could cause my screen to randomly start doing this while using ubuntu 14.04? http://i.imgur.com/rIjZfIj.gif
[16:29] <agent_white> jevonia: Just reading over your question, and attempting to understand your issue.
[16:29] <agent_white> jevonia: I'm unsure of how a "log-in password" and "chromium saving password" relate.
[16:30] <CarlFK> how can I tell what packages are installed?  (really trying to remove all gstreamer0.10 related packages)
[16:30] <jevonia> I understand and it's not Chrominum. It's Google Chrome
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> CarlFK  dpkg -l | grep ii
[16:30] <agent_white> CarlFK: Be careful so as not to remove dependencies that gstreamer shares among other packages installed.
[16:30] <Prezident>  /window splitv
[16:31] <agent_white> jevonia: Same difference ;P I justmean... what does a login-form have to do with chrome?
[16:31] <CarlFK> MonkeyDust: agent_white thanks
[16:31] <jevonia> agent_white: I don't know. I was just mentioning it in case there was a connection. I'm new to Ubuntu so I don't know very much
[16:31] <agent_white> cheers!
[16:32] <cfhowlett> CarlFK, apt-get -s purge gstreamer0.10*              -s = "sandbox" = simulated
[16:32] <agent_white> jevonia: Ah... that connection just confuses me as to what the problem is.
[16:32] <nusr> why is ubuntu the ONLY user friendly channel? unfriendly ones being python and mysql?
[16:32] <agent_white> jevonia: "Chrome won't remember site credentials" vs  "Linux won't auto-login" ... etc.
[16:33] <cfhowlett> nusr, don't know or care.  now for ubuntu support - please ask ubuntu questions.
[16:34] <nusr> cfhowlett: wrong..correct answer is ubuntu has more awesome support and people
[16:34] <jevonia> agent_white: it says the login keyring wasn't unlocked when i logged into my computer
[16:34] <agent_white> jevonia: Alrighty! And it prompted for a password to the keyring before saying this?
[16:34] <agent_white> Or not?
[16:36] <jevonia> agent_white: yes, but only when i open google chrome. I also can't get my current password to be required for logging into my administrator account.
[16:37] <Felishia> help! I damaged the ncurses library folders inside the lib/i386-linux-gnu/ folder
[16:37] <Tonipupu> Ciao
[16:38] <Felishia> Oh WHAT I've just fixed it XD I just forgot to type w X3
[16:38] <Felishia> anyway bye bye thanks
[16:39] <agent_white> jevonia: what do you mean "login to admin account" ? -- do you use `sudo su` or run a program with higher privledges via `sudo PROGRAMNAME` ?
[16:39] <kazdax> is there a way to login as root in ubuntu
[16:39] <jevonia> agent_white: No, I mean my account is administrator on my computer.
[16:40] <ZerOlegend> that is not making sense jevonia
[16:40] <agent_white> kazdax: `sudo su`
[16:40] <agent_white> \o Zer0legend
[16:40] <ZerOlegend> hey agent_white
[16:40] <ZerOlegend> jevonia, root is the only "administrator" account with linux
[16:40] <agent_white> Heya! Good early-morning :)
[16:40] <ZerOlegend> anything else is a regular user
[16:41] <jevonia> Zer0legend: Tell me about it
[16:41] <kazdax> okay how do i log out from root
[16:41] <sacarlson> kazdax: I think it's like sudo -i
[16:41] <ZerOlegend> oh crap it is morning now hadn't noticed
[16:41] <kazdax> sudo su worked
[16:42] <kazdax> but now i am root and dont want to remain root ..just wanted to know if it was possible
[16:42] <jevonia> Zer0legend: Well, I mean when I installed Linux. my boyfriend has account too but my account is Administrator while his is Standard
[16:42] <ZerOlegend> i never heard of such a thing with linux maybe I am just getting old
[16:42] <sacarlson> kazdax: just type exit to go back to normal user
[16:42] <kazdax> ahh thanks
[16:43] <ZerOlegend> unless it is just using different groups for the accounts
[16:44] <ZerOlegend> jevonia, how did you set your account as administrator?
[16:44] <jevonia> Zer0legend: It's frustrating because just anybody can log into my account.
[16:44] <jevonia> Zer0legend: It was by default as being the owner of the computer.
[16:45] <ZerOlegend> you are using windows terminology
[16:45] <SchrodingersScat> yeah, it's a little unclear what your main concern is
[16:45] <ZerOlegend> root is the only admin account
[16:46] <jevonia> zer0legend: My comouter used to have the windows OS but I've installed Ubuntu on it.
[16:46] <ZerOlegend> are you sure you are using ubuntu and not windows? because you are not making any sense
[16:47] <kazdax> i think she is saying..her account that she uses is without a password even thou she set one
[16:47] <jevonia> zer0legend: yes I'm sure. It says Ubuntu 14.04 LTS as the version of Ubuntu I am using.
[16:47] <agent_white> ZerOlegend: Is is the hour of nonsense I feel! I cannot answer any questions d:
[16:47] <kazdax> and that people can access her computer because it dosnt prompt for a password
[16:47] <agent_white> ;P
[16:47] <ZerOlegend> kazdax, afaik you couldn't not have a password
[16:47] <kazdax> ahh
[16:48] <ZerOlegend> kazdax,  I have never heard of that
[16:48] <kazdax> okay that only happens on windows then
[16:48] <agent_white> jevonia: What exactly made you realize you had an issue? -- what happened that was unexpected?
[16:48] <ZerOlegend> one you log into ubuntu and enter the root password in the master keyring it generally won't prompt for a password for the duration of that session
[16:49] <jevonia> agent_white: well when I went to turn my computer on and log in. The log in screen only said login under my name and still requires a password for my boyfriend's account.
[16:50] <ZerOlegend> that still is not enough information
[16:50] <kazdax> for some reason i think she is trolling
[16:50] <kazdax> but thats just me
[16:50] <ZerOlegend> did you set your ubuntu to auto login
[16:50] <fede> hhholaaa
[16:50] <ZerOlegend> she is trolling or should not be using a computer
[16:51] <agent_white> jevonia: So, it asks you which account (of two accounts) you want to login under? -- your account does not require a password, but your boyfriend's account does? is this correct?
[16:51] <jevonia> I also turned the password off and back on because of something else I was trying to do but ever since I never had a password, not even to update and it kept asking for a password that wasn't set. Then my best friend was able to put my password back on but it only works for updating but not for logging into my account.
[16:51] <jevonia> agent_white: yes , correct.
[16:52] <agent_white> jevonia: So then, you wish you add a password back to your account?
[16:52] <kazdax> ZerOlegend, you said you cannot have a way to not use password
[16:52] <ZerOlegend> go to terminal and type passwd
[16:52] <ZerOlegend> kazdax, when you create an account i thought it would not let you just hit enter
[16:53] <ZerOlegend> but i also said just as far as i knew because a lot has changed over the years
[16:53] <agent_white> ^^ jevonia: Do what Zer0legend said after logging into your account. That is the command to change user password.
[16:53] <kazdax> i see
[16:53] <jevonia> agent_white: My best friend already added my password back to my account but I can't log in with it for some reason.
[16:54] <jevonia> I've already done that and it still doesn't require a password to login.
[16:54] <ZerOlegend> jevonia, how is it you even installed linux?
[16:55] <ZerOlegend> no offense but if you are doing something wrong somewhere and what you are telling us does not make a whole lot of sense
[16:55] <shadowe989> you can have a account without a password on servers but you can't login.
[16:55] <jevonia> I installed it through my best friend, his old disc of Ubuntu 9 I think and I just kept updating until the latest version
[16:55] <androiduserp> ubuntu uses systemd?
[16:55] <jevonia> I know it doesnt make any sense, how do you think I feel.
[16:55] <jevonia> ?
[16:56] <agent_white> jevonia: "my friend... added back the password" ... "I can't login" ... "it doesn't require password to login"
[16:56] <jevonia> It's extra frustrating. I don't even know how that happens.
[16:56] <tr33m4n> @androiduserp I don't think so, but there are plans to in the future
[16:56] <agent_white> The last statement conlflicts the others completeley. Now I'm not sure if you CAN login, or if you CANNOT.
[16:57] <androiduserp> tr33m4n i see thanks
[16:57] <shadowe989> agent_white: she/he is locked out I believe.
[16:57] <ZerOlegend> well she is on it right now on irc no less
[16:57] <agent_white> I still don't understand.
[16:57] <ZerOlegend> that is waht I do not get if she knows enough about ubuntu to have it running and logged in and on irc but cant figure out the password stuff?
[16:57] <jevonia> No, I CAN log in but there's no password set according to the log in screen but there really is a password set now.
[16:57] <ZerOlegend> makes no sense whatsoever
[16:57] <agent_white> She says a password was apparently set, yet she cannot use it to login, yet there is no password?
[16:57] <shadowe989> agent_white: not being prompted for a password. That doesn't matter if she is on IRC, alot of people have multiple computers.
[16:58] <jevonia> Now it makes even less sense because now there is a password.
[16:58] <HFSPLUS> !ops | Nooo waaahh
[16:58] <ZerOlegend> well i did a ctcp version request
[16:58] <ZerOlegend> came back as ubuntu
[16:58] <agent_white> jevonia: "So, you are able to login, but there is no password prompt."
[16:58] <ZerOlegend> sounds like she just has auto login set
[16:58] <agent_white> ^^
[16:58] <ZerOlegend> but that wouldnt even show a login screen
[16:58] <jevonia> But before I didn't have one and it just said login but now it's making less sense of how I don't have a password on my account but I DO have one set now.
[16:59] <ZerOlegend> this is where I say I call BS
[16:59] <ZerOlegend> and ignore
[16:59] <agent_white> jevonia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login
[16:59] <shadowe989> jevonia: you want to be prompted for a password?
[17:00] <jevonia> That's correct. That's how I'm talking to y'all now.
[17:00] <jevonia> Yes I do
[17:00] <shadowe989> User Accounts> *Select Your Name* > Toggle antuomatic login
[17:00] <agent_white> ^^
[17:00] <shadowe989> automatic login*
[17:00] <shadowe989> just bring up the menu and type in "User Accounts"
[17:00] <jevonia> I know, I looked for that too and it's not enabled. Automatic Login is DISABLED.
[17:01] <jevonia> I don't get it lol so annoying.
[17:01] <shadowe989> jevonia: ok do you see a button at the top right
[17:01] <shadowe989> jevonia: "Unlock"
[17:01] <jevonia> Yes
[17:01] <shadowe989> jevonia: click that
[17:01] <shadowe989> hopefully that will do the trick for ya
[17:01] <jevonia> I did that already too
[17:01] <jevonia> It doesn't change anything
[17:02] <shadowe989> after you unlock it, if you click on the automatic login switch
[17:02] <shadowe989> jevonia: it should switch over to "On"
[17:02] <jevonia> Oh, ok. hold on
[17:02] <shadowe989> jevonia: ok =)
[17:02] <androiduserp> does ubuntu support high resolution laptop displays? like 3000 x something pixels
[17:02] <phunyguy> wait, so what exactly is the issue?
[17:02] <agent_white> jevonia: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- Please read this so we can solve your question sooner than later next time.
[17:03] <agent_white> phunyguy: Hard to understand.
[17:03] <phunyguy> can login but wants to be prompted for a password, and autologin is disabled?
[17:04] <shadowe989> phunyguy: correct, it was just a misunderstanding.
[17:04] <phunyguy> sounds to me that either A.) They are confusing what "login" is, or B.) The account has NO password.
[17:04] <agent_white> Just "combining" login with irrelevant things like 'chrome passwords'
[17:05] <shadowe989> I understand but not everyone knows the terms.
[17:06] <ZerOlegend> phunyguy, im going with A on that
[17:06] <androiduserp> i am looking for laptops but most of them are crap quality will ubuntu run on a macbook?
[17:06] <agent_white> shadowe989: I know :)  That's why I bring up the point as (even though I am not great with terminology) explaining the problem correctly is 80% of the battle to solving it.
[17:06] <ZerOlegend> i had to ignore he/she/it because it was too frustrating anymore for me to even watch
[17:06] <ZerOlegend> its like half their terms are windows
[17:06] <ZerOlegend> lol
[17:06] <shadowe989> agent_white: thats perfectly normal
[17:07] <agent_white> shadowe989: Indeed.
[17:07] <daftykins> androiduserp: it can't be guaranteed that every feature will work on macs, so no - best avoided.
[17:07] <shadowe989> ZerOlegend: what if shes a lawyer?
[17:07] <ZerOlegend> that would make sense then
[17:07] <phunyguy> alright, let's stay on topic and not talk bad about people.
[17:07] <shadowe989> I mean not everyone has time to learn.
[17:07] <shadowe989> agreed phunyguy .
[17:08] <jevonia> phunyguy: Thank you.
[17:09] <cfhowlett> androiduserp, short answer: yes.
[17:09] <agent_white> shadowe989: True. But learning how to ask questions properly is a VERY good trait to learn.
[17:09] <agent_white> Otherwise we get the "what the customer wanted..." thing going on.
[17:09] <jevonia> To the rest: It's not like you know the whole story but I'm used to using crappy ass windows but I like Ubuntu better so far.
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> jevonia  thank you for sharing your appreciation with us
[17:10] <jevonia> And did we not catch the whole I'M NEW TO UBUNTU/LINUX part.
[17:11] <jevonia> MonkeyDust: Of course and thank you for trying to help.
[17:11] <agent_white> jevonia: We don't judge you background. Wherever you come from, we just hope to educate you on how to present your issues so they can be solved easily.
[17:11] <jevonia> Thank you all for even trying to help me.
[17:11] <agent_white> jevonia: I hope you find your solution.
[17:11] <agent_white> jevonia: Please take a series of screenshots otherwise, so you can illustrate your issue to us.
[17:12] <jevonia> I did present the issue but it was kind of a long story is all
[17:12] <jevonia> I was thinking about doing that too but I don't know how to send them on here.
[17:12] <shadowe989> jevonia: did the 'autologin' switch not toggle for you?
[17:13] <jevonia> shadowe989: it's on but it didn't change anything.
[17:13] <agent_white> jevonia: That's fine, part of the process of how to explain briefly. (I am terrible at it.)
[17:14] <agent_white> jevonia: You turned it "off", right?
[17:14] <jevonia> agent_white: Since it was a long story, I was just trying to mention all the things that seemed important enough to mention.
[17:15] <shadowe989> Yeah that was a slip, I said "on". It needs to be off. Multitasking fail here. heh.
[17:15] <agent_white> jevonia: All good :)
[17:15] <jevonia> agent_white: No, not yet because I'm still talking to you on here.
[17:15] <agent_white> jevonia: Hahah. Good point.
[17:15] <agent_white> jevonia: So the first focus is disabling auto-login for a user account.
[17:15] <agent_white> On startup?
[17:16] <albz3589> ciao
[17:16] <agent_white> Or do you hit the "choose a user" first, click on your user account, and it auto-login's ?
[17:16] <shadowe989> agent_white: i want ask her to run commands but thats not good for new...
[17:16] <jevonia> agent_white: That's the thing, I've never enabled it. I've never touched the button.
[17:16] <shadowe989> albz3589: later.
[17:16] <agent_white> jevonia: So you're saying it is disabled?
[17:16] <agent_white> Doesn't matter what you did or didn't, just what the state of it is currently.
[17:16] <mikha> Hi all. So I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.10 on my roommate's laptop, but I can't find any wifi networks. Anyone have a fix?
[17:17] <mikha> Well, not trying, it is installed.
[17:17] <jevonia> Yes, it's been disabled since I installed Ubuntu on my computer.
[17:17] <ZerOlegend> ok jevonia when you turn on the computer and let it run without touching anything what happens?
[17:17] <ZerOlegend> do you get to the desktop or some login menu with user names in a list?
[17:18] <shadowe989> jevonia: I believe I have a solution for you
[17:18] <cfhowlett> mikha, have you completed the installation?
[17:18] <agent_white> mikha: How are you attempting to find other networks? What is the error that proves it is unable to find a network? etc.
[17:18] <shadowe989> jevonia: can you open a terminal? press: control + alt + t?
[17:19] <jevonia> It'll boot up as usual and come to the login screen. Then I just click login because it doesnt say anything about entering my password, which is set , to remind you.
[17:19] <jevonia> Yes, hold on a sec
[17:19] <ZerOlegend> are you selecting a username at that login menu?
[17:19] <jevonia> Opened terminal
[17:20] <shadowe989> jevonia: ok type this exactly as I say... sec
[17:20] <shadowe989> jevonia: gksudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[17:20] <jevonia> Yes but it only says login under my name with no password promt.
[17:20] <jevonia> ok, hold on shadowe989
[17:20] <shadowe989> it will ask for your password then a text editor will appear
[17:20] <shadowe989> jevonia: ok
[17:20] <ZerOlegend> that is the strangest issue I have ever heard
[17:21] <mikha> One sec, I'll send you guys a screen shot.
[17:21] <ZerOlegend> mikha, what are you using to scan for wifi networks? is your wifi adapter enabled in ubuntu check lsmod/lspci
[17:22] <agent_white> jevonia: 'document' your issue once you fix it, so you can explain what the fix was please. :) I'm curious to see.
[17:22] <shadowe989> agent_white: its lightdm, im sure of it.
[17:23] <shadowe989> agent_white: if you type that command it has a "autologin-user" field
[17:23] <shadowe989> agent_white: that will allow even a passworded account to still click the name and bypass
[17:23] <jevonia> Ok, I will
[17:23] <agent_white> shadowe989: Oh really?
[17:23] <ZerOlegend> ok shadowe989 that makes more sense
[17:23] <ZerOlegend> most wm's autologin just auto logs in without displaying a selection
[17:23] <shadowe989> yes
[17:24] <jevonia> And I typed it in and another window popped up
[17:24] <ZerOlegend> that is why i wanted to know more information earlier
[17:24] <shadowe989> jevonia: yep
[17:24] <robynata> :-D
[17:24] <shadowe989> jevonia: gedit right?
[17:24] <shadowe989> jevonia: I need you to look for a line that says "autologin-user=", it will have your name on it probably.
[17:24] <jevonia> shadowe989: yes
[17:25] <shadowe989> jevonia: remove the username, but keep "autologin-user="
[17:25] <mikha> Alright, so I can't get a screen shot -_-
[17:25] <shadowe989> jevonia: so that entry is just blank.
[17:25] <jevonia> I did and my username isn't next to it.
[17:25] <mikha> When I try to get a screen shot, it closes the drop down menu I'm trying to show you guys so I can't document the problem.
[17:25] <shadowe989> jevonia: good now save the changes
[17:26] <mikha> Basically, when I click on the wifi icon on the start bar at the top, it's just not finding any wifi networks.
[17:26] <agent_white> mikha: `scrot -s ~/path/to/save/%Y-%m-%d-%T-screenshot.png` :)
[17:26] <shadowe989> jevonia: and exit out of the window and the terminal.
[17:26] <jevonia> it was blank when I opened it but ok
[17:26] <shadowe989> jevonia: oh really?
[17:26] <mikha> Just type everything between the apostrophes in the terminal?
[17:26] <agent_white> mikha: If you have `apt-get install scrot` (scrot installed), then run my command, click-drag around an area and it will save it to the path you specify.
[17:27] <jevonia> shadowe989: yes, i just did what you said anyway.
[17:27] <agent_white> mikha: `scrot -s ~/%Y-%m-%d-%T-screenshot.png` :)
[17:27] <agent_white> ^^ enter that, then click on your screen and drag to make a box around the area to screenshot
[17:27] <agent_white> then it will save in ~/
[17:27] <altin> Hello there, I am having a problem with an unknown process in my ubuntu machine
[17:27] <altin> it is being run at /root/Acsko
[17:27] <altin> and I have no clue what that is
[17:27] <altin> o.O
[17:27] <ZerOlegend> did you google it?
[17:27] <shadowe989> jevonia: ok can you bring that back up?
[17:28] <altin> When I kill it, it keeps re-running
[17:28] <altin> even when I delete it it re-creates the file
[17:28] <altin> and runs
[17:28] <t4nk315> I'm having trouble installing a dual booting win8/ubuntu system.  Can I get a helping hand?
[17:28] <shadowe989> jevonia: I want you to add a # before every line except the first.
[17:28] <altin> I googled but can't find anything
[17:28] <jevonia> shadowe989: Bring which back up?
[17:28] <mikha> I can't install anything, no internet.
[17:28] <altin> I can't even find the source where it is being created or what it does since the file is not readable
[17:28] <jevonia> To which lines?
[17:28] <ubuntuaddicted> for some reason my right click custom actions aren't showing up in thunar. anyone know why?
[17:29] <shadowe989> jevonia: a terminal and type the command I gave you before.
[17:29] <ZerOlegend> mikha, what wifi adapter do you have?
[17:29] <shadowe989> jevonia: there is something else that could be in that file that is making you login.
[17:30] <jevonia> I don't remember the command
[17:30] <mikha> I'm not sure, it's not my computer. How would I find that out?
[17:30] <ZerOlegend> lspci
[17:30] <ZerOlegend> if it is usb then do lsub
[17:30] <shadowe989> jevonia: gksudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[17:30] <ZerOlegend> if you do not see a wifi controller listed in either then its not configured in your kernel
[17:31] <t4nk315> I'm getting a blank back screen after hitting "Install Ubuntu" at the grub screen
[17:31] <jevonia> Thank you, hold on a minute please.
[17:31] <t4nk315> I heard the ubuntu drum beat
[17:31] <mikha> It's a Dell CPS M1330 laptop.
[17:31] <t4nk315> I just don' see anything
[17:31] <shadowe989> jevonia: ok =)
[17:31] <mikha> Dell XPS M1330***
[17:31] <ZerOlegend> that doesnt tell me anything
[17:31] <ZerOlegend> did you check lspci?
[17:31] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | t4nk315, 1. verify the .iso       2. verify the USB
[17:32] <ZerOlegend> it is probably a broadcom driver in which case you will have to download that and copy it to that computer if that computer has no internet
[17:33] <mikha> And where would I go to get that?
[17:33] <OerHeks> !offline
[17:33] <jevonia> shadowe989: It's not popping up anymore and I don't know why.
[17:33] <cfhowlett> mikha, broadcom?  it's on the iso.
[17:33] <ZerOlegend> he doesn't know for sure
[17:33] <ZerOlegend> mikha, go to terminal sudo lspci -k
[17:33] <cyberwave> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[17:34] <ZerOlegend> look for a network interface that is for wireless
[17:34] <shadowe989> jevonia: did you press "control + alt + t"?
[17:35] <jevonia> shadowe989: yes, I mean after typing in the command. It won't pop up again.
[17:36] <mikha> Network Controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[17:36] <cfhowlett> mikha, perfect.  30 seconds with a terminal and a USB
[17:36] <mikha> I have a USB, so what do I have to do?
[17:37] <ZerOlegend> i think that driver is pre-loaded cfhowlett
[17:37] <cfhowlett> mikha, open the usb with your filemanager.   open the /pool/main/d/
[17:37] <shadowe989> jevonia: ok open another terminal and heres the last thing I know to do.
[17:37] <shadowe989> jevonia: make sure its not the same one.
[17:37] <ZerOlegend> mikha, in terminal type lsmod
[17:37] <ZerOlegend> see if there is the adapter shows in that list
[17:37] <altin> Hello there, I am having a problem with an unknown process in my ubuntu machine, it is being run at /root/Acsko, and I have no clue what that is o.O
[17:37] <altin> When I kill it, it keeps re-running, even when I delete it it re-creates the file and runs again
[17:37] <altin> I googled but can't find anything
[17:37] <jevonia> shadowe989: ok, opened a new terminal window
[17:37] <mikha> Open it on her computer (no internet) or this one?
[17:37] <altin> I can't even find the source where it is being created or what it does since the file is not readable
[17:37] <altin> what I found with: netstat -tpn
[17:37] <altin> is this: tcp        0      1 192.168.1.60:39432      115.159.28.139:25000    SYN_SENT    1907/Acsko
[17:37] <cfhowlett> ZerOlegend, should be, but I get this error all the time on testing so ...
[17:37] <unopaste> altin you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:38] <shadowe989> jevonia: "whoami"
[17:38] <ZerOlegend> you are probably right cfhowlett
[17:38] <cfhowlett> mikha, plug the USB into the problem computer and open the file
[17:38] <solsTiCe> it's on the cdrom: run sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:38] <ZerOlegend> but I am just curious if lsmod has it already
[17:38] <shadowe989> jevonia: thats your username, you will need it
[17:39] <cfhowlett> mikha, sudo dpkg -k /pool/restricted/d/dkmsMORESTUFFHERE
[17:39] <shadowe989> jevonia: sudo gpasswd -d YOURUSERNAMEHERE nopasswdlogin
[17:39] <mikha> I have no idea how to open whatever /pool/main/d/ is.
[17:39] <mikha> But I have the computer in my lap.
[17:39] <cfhowlett> mikha, use the file mananger.
[17:39] <jevonia> shadowe989: ok hold on please
[17:39] <shadowe989> jevonia: it has to be exactly like I wrote it, just put your username in that field.
[17:39] <cfhowlett> mikha, drag and drop the file name on the terminal line.  wait 1 for a picture
[17:39] <shadowe989> jevonia: sure thing.
[17:40] <TenLeftFingers> I was messing around with some sound applications and now my sound menu won't control my volume anymore. I did run qjackctl as root which I know was stupid. I've purged the sound apps and tried reinstalling ubuntu desktop but still no luck. Is there a way to get it to work again? Sound is fine I just can't change the volume.
[17:40] <mikha> What file? You're way ahead of me.
[17:40] <agent_white> TenLeftFingers: Have you tried installing/using `pavucontrol` ?
[17:40] <TheBigDeal> Hello
[17:41] <mikha> I only have the computer in my lap, and the USB plugged in, and I opened the file manager.
[17:41] <TenLeftFingers> agent_white: no, I'll try that now, thanks
[17:41] <ZerOlegend> yeah TenLeftFingers i suggest pulse audio controller
[17:41] <TheBigDeal> is there a way i can resize my filesystem partition?
[17:41] <ZerOlegend> TheBigDeal, unmount it and use gparted
[17:41] <TenLeftFingers> ZerOlegend: I'll try that too, thank you
[17:41] <ZerOlegend> TenLeftFingers, that is the same thing agent_white said
[17:41] <k1l> TheBigDeal: start a live system and resize it
[17:41] <TheBigDeal> ZerOlegend, But i'm using it
[17:41] <TheBigDeal> k1l, hm
[17:41] <jevonia> shadowe989: it says [sudo] password for Jevonia
[17:42] <shadowe989> jevonia: yes put in your password
[17:42] <ZerOlegend> TheBigDeal, you cant resize a mounted partition
[17:42] <Guest13982> Hello. I recently had some files that I could not delete in my trash folder, and now I cannot delete any files. http://pastebin.com/SJZRU3a1
[17:42] <Guest13982> I ran these commands that I found on http://askubuntu.com/questions/216644/i-cannot-delete-files-from-roots-trash
[17:42] <TheBigDeal> ZerOlegend, even if i'm using it the filesystem one?
[17:43] <ZerOlegend> TheBigDeal, again if the partition is mounted you cannot resize it, it has to be unmounted so use a liveusb or livedvd and do it that way
[17:43] <jevonia> shadowe989: it's not typing while I'm typing my password.
[17:43] <Guest13982> I can still remove files via terminal rm -r, but not by deleting icons in gui, it says that the folder is missing
[17:43] <TheBigDeal> ZerOlegend, alright
[17:43] <shadowe989> jevonia: yeah it hides your password so people can't watch over you
[17:43] <TenLeftFingers> agent_white: ZerOlegend the app just says "connection to Pulse Audio failed" :0
[17:43] <mikha> Anyone there? Still haven't resolved this :P
[17:43] <shadowe989> jevonia: its typing even if it doesn't look like it.
[17:43] <cfhowlett> mikha, patience
[17:43] <ZerOlegend> TenLeftFingers, what packages did you remove ?
[17:44] <agent_white> Guest13982: How are you attempting to delete the files inthe trash folder? Through the nautilus GUI or a terminal?
[17:44] <mikha> Will do, sorry.
[17:44] <solsTiCe> Guest13982: type f5 to refresh the window
[17:44] <Guest13982> agent_white: I am selecting through gui. sudo rm -r removes them okay in terminal.
[17:44] <TenLeftFingers> ZerOlegend: ardour and qjackctl. I removed and reinstalled ubuntu-desktop and it pulled in a few things I had removed (solitaire and mines).
[17:45] <shadowe989> jevonia: it should do nothing after u put in your password.
[17:45] <jevonia> shadowe989: ok, it says removing user jevonia from group nopasswdlogin
[17:45] <ZerOlegend> ok it was jackd that messed it up for you
[17:45] <shadowe989> jevonia: or that my bad =) going by memory.
[17:45] <shadowe989> jevonia: thats a good sign
[17:45] <shadowe989> jevonia: now restart your computer
[17:45] <shadowe989> jevonia: good luck lol.
[17:45] <jevonia> oh ok lol it's totally ok
[17:45] <agent_white> Guest13982: That is not the best way to do it.
[17:45] <jevonia> Ok and thank you very much.
[17:46] <Guest13982> solsTiCe: Not sure I understand that, sorry
[17:46] <ZerOlegend> TenLeftFingers, im not sure what to tell you since you had removed some stuff
[17:46] <shadowe989> jevonia: lol lets wait to see if it works first =)
[17:46] <TenLeftFingers> ZerOlegend: there is still some jack stuff on my system somehow. when I type 'jack' and then press TAB I see more stuff.
[17:46] <agent_white> Guest13982: If you are using the GUI, how do you know that the trash still contains files?
[17:46] <jevonia> Shadow989: Ok, logging off now.
[17:46] <agent_white> Guest13982: `empty-trash` in a terminal. Tell me what happens.
[17:46] <shadowe989> jevonia: ok
[17:46] <TenLeftFingers> ZerOlegend: my mistake, that stuff is gone now
[17:46] <ZerOlegend> try apt-get remove jack
[17:46] <agent_white> shadowe989: Sounds like you may have found the culprit eh? :)
[17:46] <TenLeftFingers> ZerOlegend: Okay, thanks for getting me a bit further anyway
[17:47] <Guest13982> agent_white: command not found
[17:47] <shadowe989> agent_white: i hope lol...
[17:47] <ZerOlegend> you will need to reboot after and then sound in theory should come back
[17:47] <TenLeftFingers> ZerOlegend: 'jack is not installed'
[17:47] <agent_white> Guest13982: `sudo apt-get install trash-cli; empty-trash`
[17:47] <ZerOlegend> try jackd TenLeftFingers
[17:47] <Thomasloldk> are any of you guys playing Lol - i can't get it to work any more with playonlinux ...
[17:47] <shadowe989> agent_white: there appears to be a group called nopasswdlogin that will be assigned.
[17:47] <TenLeftFingers> ZerOlegend: good thinking, but same result
[17:48] <shadowe989> agent_white: which will let you not have to enter a password.
[17:48] <agent_white> shadowe989: I saw that above... assigned via what?
[17:48] <ZerOlegend> man you b0rked that up good
[17:48] <TenLeftFingers> ZerOlegend: Yes, I did :D
[17:48] <shadowe989> agent_white: I want to say when she installed it, she might of accidently marked "Require no password at login"
[17:48] <TenLeftFingers> ZerOlegend: I wonder could I purge and reinstall pulseadio?
[17:48] <Guest13982> agent_white: command not found still
[17:48] <shadowe989> agent_white: but you still need one for sudo and such.
[17:48] <ZerOlegend> TenLeftFingers, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[17:48] <ZerOlegend> try that
[17:48] <teward> Thomasloldk: you might want to check the wine appdb to see if others have made it work.  You may also want to consider installing a newer version of Wine from the ubuntu-wine PPA (note that PPAs are generally unsupported here)
[17:48] <agent_white> shadowe989: Ahhh good deal ( or bad :P ).
[17:49] <agent_white> NIce find though! :)
[17:49] <shadowe989> agent_white: well I hope its the right find haha.
[17:49] <TenLeftFingers> ZerOlegend: fantastic, thank you I'll go through this.
[17:49] <agent_white> Guest13982: You are unable to right-click on the trash on your desktop, and click "empty trash..." ?
[17:49] <teward> Thomasloldk: i would also like to point you at this: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141  This is for LoL 4.x, and it looks like there's installation scripts and 'getting it to work' available there.
[17:49] <agent_white> shadowe989: Sounds like it's well along the way :D
[17:50] <Guest13982> agent_white: correct
[17:50] <Thomasloldk> teward i have - i even tried too sumbit a version a while back and they would not even accpeted anything becurse LOL is updated often
[17:50] <jevonia> Shadowe989: It worked. Thank you so much.
[17:50] <shadowe989> jevonia: wow great
[17:50] <shadowe989> jevonia: anytime =)
[17:51] <agent_white> Guest13982: With a 'blank' nautilus window open, on the left-hand side, do you see a  "Deleted Items" ?
[17:51] <jevonia> shadowe989: the only thing I don't understand is why does it keep asking me to put my old password in every time I open Google Chrome?
[17:51] <Guest13982> agent_white: hold on, must install nautilus
[17:51] <Agent_Sm1th_BR> ad
[17:51] <jevonia> It says something about a keyring password or something'
[17:52] <agent_white> jevonia: If you created any questions to any forums (ubuntu forum, stackexchange, etc.) make sure to follow up with the solution to your problem in case anyone else has the same issue.
[17:52] <shadowe989> jevonia: oh yeah I know of that... sec
[17:52] <agent_white> jevonia:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/216644/i-cannot-delete-files-from-roots-trash
[17:52] <agent_white> jevonia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25974/how-do-i-change-the-default-password/25999#25999
[17:52] <agent_white> ^^
[17:52] <Thomasloldk> teward - i know i know - Appdb did not even want to accpted my sumbit last time i had it working becurse LOL is being pacted to often so no support thare - thats why i asking here i fell like tried anything by know
[17:52] <agent_white> sorry, wrong link pasted first.
[17:53] <jevonia> shadowe989: How do I follow up with that? Sorry if it seems like i'm slow as hell but it's just that new to me lol
[17:53] <teward> Thomasloldk: you might try #winehq - i saw your earlier message btw, but my observation was a lot of things in the version of wine in the stable repos for ubuntu work in the latest dev version from wine *shrugs*
[17:53] <ZerOlegend> the whole thing was just a custom group
[17:53] <shadowe989> jevonia: did you request help on a website before comming here?
[17:53] <agent_white> ^
[17:54] <jevonia> shadowe989: The links you post aren't opening after I click on them.
[17:54] <jevonia> shadowe989: No I didn't.
[17:54] <shadowe989> jevonia: jevonia thats not me, thats agent_white.
[17:54] <solsTiCe> jevonia: irght on link and choose open in navigator
[17:54] <shadowe989> jevonia: if you didn't don't worry but to fix the keyring issue.
[17:54] <solsTiCe> jevonia: right +click+
[17:55] <jevonia> ok lol
[17:55] <Guest13982> agent_white: so, there is nothing in the trash, until I turn on my external hard drive. Then the files I deleted from it appeared and I was unable to empty them, but atleast the option to empty trash is back.
[17:55] <jevonia> Thank you all.
[17:55] <jevonia> ^^
[17:55] <shadowe989> open a program called "Passwords and Keys"
[17:55] <shadowe989> jevonia: ^
[17:55] <agent_white> jevonia: Come back soon and watch for others who need advice to solve the same problem :)
[17:56] <shadowe989> jevonia: that is if you want chrome to stop asking you :)
[17:56] <jevonia> I opened it shadowe989
[17:57] <shadowe989> jevonia: ok do you at the top left, a label named: "Login"?
[17:57] <jevonia> And ok agent_white although that will be difficult because of work and all lol
[17:57] <jevonia> Yes
[17:57] <jevonia> Shadowe989: yes
[17:57] <Cykit> Anyone know how to allocate a specific amount of memory to a program?
[17:57] <shadowe989> jevonia: right click on it > change password.
[17:57] <Cykit> Through Terminal?
[17:58] <shadowe989> jevonia: put in your current login password.
[17:58] <Guest13982> agent_white: Nautilus shows no date deleted, and the icons in the trash all have lock symbols on them, so I cannot empty-trash
[17:59] <ZerOlegend> Guest13982, what user are you trying to delete as?
[17:59] <Jarvix> ubuntu 14.04 on dell inspiron 1545 with external monitor. video lags when accessing Dash. thoughts?
[17:59] <ZerOlegend> im guessing you were root at some point and that is why you cannot delete them from nautilus
[17:59] <ZerOlegend> Jarvix, disable effects?
[17:59] <shadowe989> Cykit: thats something you do via Python or C. rlimit is what we call it. I dont think you can do that via a terminal.
[17:59] <jevonia> shadowe989: It won't take the old password. It accepts the current one I'm using now though. I don't understand that exactly.
[18:00] <Jarvix> ZerOlegend, thank you
[18:00] <shadowe989> jevonia: yeah thats what I meant.
[18:00] <shadowe989> jevonia: by doing that it should stop asking you every time you login and start chrome.
[18:01] <Guest13982> agent_white: username e, is there a way to gain permissions?
[18:01] <Cykit> so I root ?
[18:01] <agent_white> Guest13982: what do you mean? Why do you need permission and to what?
[18:01] <shadowe989> jevonia: so what you did, should do the trick.
[18:01] <SchrodingersScat> Cykit: looks like ulimit is also something mentioned for doing this: http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/ulimit.htm
[18:01] <agent_white> Guest13982: What is the path to your external drive?
[18:01] <jevonia> shadowe989: Ohh ok, so I just change it to the current password even though I use the current password to get to changing it to the current one I'm using now?
[18:02] <ZerOlegend> Guest13982, change the ownership to your username for the files you want to delete
[18:02] <ZerOlegend> or the folder
[18:02] <ZerOlegend> man chown or man chgrp
[18:02] <Guest13982> agent_white: /media/e/46FD-94BA
[18:02] <shadowe989> jevonia: yes it needs to be set to the current password.
[18:02] <Cykit> Im using a program with wine and its killing the memory
[18:02] <shadowe989> jevonia: that is correct, I know its odd, but thats what makes it stop. =)
[18:02] <Cykit> The program lags.
[18:03] <ZerOlegend> Cykit, wine does that
[18:03] <jevonia> shadowe989: Ok, I did it. Again, thank you so much.
[18:03] <Cykit> Does it?
[18:03] <ZerOlegend> depends on how you set up wine and what you are trying to run in it
[18:03] <jevonia> shadowe989: It is odd lol but I'll just have to get used to it is all lol
[18:03] <ZerOlegend> you are not running those application native
[18:03] <Cykit> Virtual Dj.
[18:03] <ZerOlegend> yeah that is resource intense
[18:03] <agent_white> Guest13982: `sudo rm -fr /media/*` ?
[18:04] <Cykit> yeah its rather laggy
[18:04] <ZerOlegend> how much ram do you have
[18:04] <Cykit> 6gb
[18:04] <phunyguy> Token: please stop that
[18:04] <ZerOlegend> well that should be enough
[18:04] <agent_white> `sudo rm -fr ~/.local/share/Trash/*; sudo nautilus ~/.local/share/Trash/files`
[18:04] <ZerOlegend> check your wine config
[18:04] <Cykit> k
[18:04] <jevonia> shadowe989: Logging off now. Have a wonderful day ^_^
[18:04] <shadowe989> jevonia: heh, well I hope you Ubuntu works out for you now, stop by here anytime for help. thats what we are here for. =)
[18:04] <shadowe989> jevonia: thank you, you too! =)
[18:04] <agent_white> shadowe989: ++1 nice work
[18:05] <jevonia> =)
[18:05] <agent_white> jevonia: ++1
[18:05] <shadowe989> agent_white: ty =)
[18:06] <TenLeftFingers> ZerOlegend: thank you. Running 'pulseaudio' from the terminal showed it was failing because it couldn't load jack. I removed refernces from /etc/pulse/default.pa and my menu came back to life!
[18:06] <Guest13982> agent_white: the files have already been moved to the trash, I am trying to remove them from there. They do not appear in the external hd, so rm -r work.
[18:07] <Guest13982> agent_white: trying to change ownership via sudo chown username:username /media/name told me it was read-only, which it is not.
[18:07] <ZerOlegend> you are welcome TenLeftFingers
[18:07] <Cykit> the music sounds terrible. i need a decent mixing program for Linux
[18:07] <ZerOlegend> i didn't even like ardour that much
[18:08] <OerHeks> !info mixxx
[18:08] <agent_white> Guest13982: So... no way to: `sudo su; sudo rm -fr /media/Elements/.Trash*`
[18:08] <agent_white> ?
[18:08] <ZerOlegend> Guest13982, sounds like its mounted as readonly
[18:09] <ZerOlegend> the filesystem doesn't lie
[18:09] <Cykit> thanks Oer
[18:10] <Guest13982> ZerOlegend: I have been reading and writing to it for weeks though
[18:10] <user_01> hi all. when i do “su USER -c "bash -l" i get
[18:10] <user_01> bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device
[18:10] <user_01> bash: no job control in this shell
[18:10] <user_01> is there something wrong?
[18:10] <t4nk315> I check the hash value on my ubuntu iso and it was correct.  I'm still getting a black screen when I either Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu
[18:10] <Guest13982> agent_white: yeah, that did not work either, also /home/e/.local/Trash has no files listed when I tried to rm -fr in terminal
[18:10] <bubbasaures>  !nomodeset | 14WAAQ0FO
[18:10] <t4nk315> I have secure boot/legacy support disabled
[18:11] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, You have seen the UEFI wiki?
[18:12] <Guest88603> jared
[18:12] <t4nk315> No sir
[18:12] <t4nk315> May I have a link?
[18:12] <Guest88603> jared
[18:12] <bubbasaures> !uefi | t4nk315
[18:12] <t4nk315> Cheers
[18:13] <teward> Guest88603: If you have an actual support question, please ask it, otherwise, please stop that.
[18:14] <Cykit> uefi has been around for a while
[18:15] <bubbasaures> Cykit, Glad to see you here, if you need help ask, otherwise this is not chat.
[18:16] <Cykit> My apologies
[18:16] <t4nk315> bubbasaures, I have done all of those things except for the intel smart response.  I can't find it prob cause I have AMD (newbie here)
[18:17] <t4nk315> Does that I mean I have to try to install in EFI mode?
[18:17] <Guest13982> ZerOlegend: How can I remount as read-write?
[18:18] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, I know just enough of uefi to stop helping when needed. What is on the computer now and what have you done to prepare?
[18:19] <bubbasaures> for the ubuntu install
[18:19] <arunpyasi> guys, how do I mount a folder in another folder with write permission ?
[18:19] <t4nk315> Windows 8. I have prepared a partition, gone through a guide disabling UEFI, secure boot, and maybe a few other thigns skipping my mind right now.  I have a usb fully prepared that loads to the grub screen
[18:20] <t4nk315> When I select Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu I get a black screen and nothing else happens except I hear the Ubuntu drum beat
[18:20] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, Cool, what you need is a unallocated space for the ubuntu partitions, and than install efi.
[18:21] <k1l> t4nk315: maybe you need the nomodeset boot parameter for the video driver to work
[18:21] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, You may need to use the nomodeset boot is all so read that link.
[18:21] <Cykit> Check your VGA?
[18:21] <dpkg_issues98697> I made a mistake with my kernels, hoping you folks here can help me out.  I got in my head that 3.13 was older that 3.5 (which is what I'm running) and tried to remove the wrong package.  Now I have dependency issues and can't reinstall 3.13
[18:22] <t4nk315> k1l, how do I get the nomodeset boot parameter?
[18:22] <k1l> !nomodeset | t4nk315
[18:22] <t4nk315> Man, that's a sweet bot
[18:23] <k1l> dpkg_issues98697: please show the error in a pastebin
[18:23] <dpkg_issues98697> ok will do k1l
[18:23] <mosquito> Hi I have a problem with ubunto12.04 64 bit as a VPS  using proftpd and apache2 with msql-server and i have upload the website to the host but the website keeps displaying all white. I have php 5.3.10 and the site is has been working on php 5.3 and 5.4 can somebody please help me?
[18:24] <Cykit> Anyone ever installed Enlighten?
[18:24] <ZerOlegend> did you install the php mysql libs?
[18:24] <k1l> mosquito: enabled php?
[18:24] <mosquito> I don't think so I have only installed mysql-server.
[18:24] <bubbasaures> Cykit, You might like #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:25] <Cykit> Thanks dude,
[18:25] <mosquito> You guys can check the data here: http://167.114.97.248/version.php (it's the phpinfo webpage)
[18:25] <bubbasaures> good iq reducer
[18:25] <ZerOlegend> mosquito, try the package php5-mysqlnd
[18:25] <ZerOlegend> but sounds like php was not installed properly
[18:26] <Cykit> My apologies once again; I'm a chatter.
[18:26] <Cykit> :)
[18:26] <ZerOlegend> and is your php file properly done?
[18:26] <mosquito> Yesm the website is working well. on windows vps
[18:26] <OerHeks> Cykit, e17 ?
[18:27] <Cykit> yes
[18:27] <OerHeks> how is e17 offtopic, bubbasaures ?
[18:27] <mosquito> I have installed the php5mysqlnd, and restarted services but, no. It does not work.
[18:27] <Cykit> What defines if something is off topic?
[18:27] <ZerOlegend> not sure then really cause there is no error message
[18:27] <ZerOlegend> check your apache logs?
[18:27] <k1l> mosquito: sites-available points to correct folders?
[18:27] <bubbasaures> OerHeks, This user has just chatted random stuff for awhile is all, not really any support content given or asked.
[18:28] <mosquito> Ok, give me a second..
[18:28] <t4nk315> Ok, so from what I understand I need to edit the commands before booting and put acpi=off
[18:28] <t4nk315> and it might work
[18:28] <t4nk315> but might turn off my fan...
[18:29] <ZerOlegend> i doubt it will disable your fan
[18:29] <Guest66013> hi what does uptime display?
[18:29] <ZerOlegend> system uptime
[18:29] <k1l> Guest66013: time since last boot
[18:30] <Guest66013> sorry upload :D
[18:30] <Guest66013> it shows: load averages: 1.94 2.20 2.17
[18:30] <ZerOlegend> yeah that is system loads
[18:30] <Guest66013> what does 1.92 mean?
[18:30] <Guest66013> 1.94
[18:30] <Guest66013> in percent?
[18:31] <habhatti> Guest66013: shows the load on your processor
[18:31] <t4nk315> acpi=off didn't work and I still hear the ubuntu drums
[18:31] <Guest66013> habhatti: in percent?
[18:31] <k1l> Guest66013: that is not net-speed. that is a number displaying the load the system is having. no not in percent
[18:31] <ZerOlegend> http://blog.scoutapp.com/articles/2009/07/31/understanding-load-averages
[18:31] <habhatti> Guest66013: no not in percent, look at the link ZerOlegend pasted
[18:32] <Guest66013> i have a quadcore cpu
[18:32] <k1l> Guest66013: above 1 means there is more jobs in the que than the system can run instantl.
[18:32] <Guest66013> and it shows: load averages: 1.94 2.20 2.17
[18:32] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, Is the W8 install important to to, and if so is it backed up/imaged off the HD?
[18:32] <k1l> Guest66013: so read the link it explains it.
[18:32] <bubbasaures> to you*
[18:33] <faust> k1l: that's not true
[18:33] <Guest66013> k1l: ok, how can i simulate more load?
[18:33] <k1l> Guest66013: use prime
[18:33] <t4nk315> I made the HP cds last night, so I got a back up.  and yes it is important to me.  It has no important information, I just want to be able to dual boot
[18:33] <ZerOlegend> stress tests
[18:33] <ZerOlegend> what k1l mentioned
[18:34] <t4nk315> I do I do a nomodeset boot up?
[18:34] <t4nk315> It doesn't tell me how to do that
[18:34] <cfhowlett> dpkg_issues98697, logout, boot and older kernel, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:34] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, Cool, so note we preface with the others nick when we communicate.
[18:34] <faust> k1l: Guest66013 that number says how many CPU do you need to allow every process to not wait. This means, for example, that in a dual core environmente the max is 2 and not 1
[18:35] <k1l> faust: yes, he told he got a quadcore after i explained it....
[18:35] <Guest66013> ok but why i got 3 numbers now?
[18:35] <t4nk315> bubbasaures,sorry
[18:35] <k1l> Guest66013: they are in 3 different times.
[18:36] <k1l> Guest66013: last minute, last 5 minutes, last 15 minutes
[18:36] <t4nk315> bubbasaures, I'm at the grub screen again trying to figure out how to do a nomodeset bootup
[18:36] <k1l> Guest66013: if you would have read the link we would not have to type it all again in here
[18:37] <dpkg_issues98697> bubbasaures: thanks, I'll give that a shot right now.  Meanwhile, heres a paste k1l http://pastebin.com/uhnW7XsB
[18:37] <Guest66013> 2.63 sounds pretty high on my quadcore now...
[18:37] <ZerOlegend> k1l, that is why i posted it and quit responding
[18:37] <k1l> Guest66013: please come and ask if you have read the link: <ZerOlegend> http://blog.scoutapp.com/articles/2009/07/31/understanding-load-averages
[18:38] <bubbasaures> dpkg_issues98697, Not sure why I'm involved.
[18:38] <ZerOlegend> with the internet it is peoples choice to be uneducated now days
[18:38] <faust> Guest66013: your system will be overloaded when that number gets over 4
[18:38] <velho_> hey folks! How To invert colors in one window?
[18:38] <velho_> I'm using Ubuntu default
[18:39] <k1l> dpkg_issues98697: how did you install that other kernels?
[18:39] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, I believe there it is f5 or f6 choose nomodeset and I forget the boot from there maybe ctrl-x
[18:39] <t4nk315> bubbasaures, I tried f5 and f6.  I guess I'll try ctrl-x
[18:40] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, ctrl-x is not the nomodeset boot you have to choose it.
[18:40] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, What do you see at this grub window?
[18:41] <mosquito> Hmm, does somebody know how to instal mssql ?
[18:42] <ZerOlegend> in ubuntu?
[18:42] <mosquito> Yes
[18:42] <faust> mosquito: why?
[18:42] <ZerOlegend> you don't
[18:42] <t4nk315> bubbasaures, I see Try Ubuntu, Install Ubuntu, OEM install(for manufactureers), Check disc for defects
[18:42] <mosquito> Well because of this: http://167.114.97.248  because seems like website can't connect..
[18:43] <faust> mosquito: maybe you want to use mysql
[18:43] <t4nk315> bubbasaures, I think I gotta it. "You put nomodeset between the quiet and splash part."  Found it after my 1000ths google search
[18:43] <dpkg_issues98697> cfhowlett: thanks, I'm looking into getting an old kernel to load without sitting on the grub screen. (Its a remote computer)
 dpkg_issues98697: how did you install that other kernels?
[18:44] <mosquito> Well actualy this page is a webhost where you can signup and the database is on a remote dedicated server. And the logins and ip, ports are all ok. And I don't know why it can't connect now :/
[18:44] <cfhowlett> dpkg_issues98697, I accidentally nuked a library computer today ...
[18:44] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, Yes, that will work, I have not gotten to the kernel edit on a install there.
[18:45] <dpkg_issues98697> k1l: All of the kernels were installed doing normal dist-upgrade , I only started trying to mess with them when I kept getting update/upgrade errors
[18:45] <habhatti> mosquito: What do you mean by "this page"?
[18:45] <k1l> dpkg_issues98697: no, the 3.5 kernels
[18:45] <t4nk315> bubbasaures, Thanks for taking the time to help man
[18:46] <dpkg_issues98697> cfhowlett: The only reason I didn't just do that was they I happened to extend the timeout instead of setting it to a "wait for input setting"
[18:46] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, Thanks lets just see you get all setup, good job backing up windows, you are set for any failure with a smile.
[18:46] <dpkg_issues98697> k1l : I did upgrade this machine from 12.04 to 14.04.  Is that the kernel from 12.04 still running?
[18:47] <mosquito> Website which is on webhost ( 167.114.97.248 ) is just a website where people can check news, and download game client since its a website for a game. And this website also includes registration which is forwarded to a remote dedicated server.
[18:47] <habhatti> mosquito: Right. And is that server running Ubuntu, or?
[18:47] <faust> mosquito: I think that your problem is about the configuration of a php script maybe you should ask on #php
[18:47] <k1l> dpkg_issues98697: sorry your story gets confusing the more you tell. you started with "i had installed the 3.5 kernel and removed the 3.13 because i thought the 2.5. were the latest"
[18:47] <mosquito> Well phpscript works if I'm using a windows vps,
[18:48] <dpkg_issues98697> k1l: I've never manually installed any kernels, just the ones that came automatically
[18:48] <mosquito> No the remote server is running windows server 2k8
[18:48] <k1l> dpkg_issues98697: depending on what you did to install the 3.5 kernel that can explain your issues now
[18:48] <faust> mosquito: why are you asking this question here?
[18:48] <habhatti> mosquito: On which machine is Ubuntu running?
[18:48] <mosquito> Well since it's not php problem if the script works on windows server?
[18:48] <faust> it seems that you misconfigured the script
[18:48] <mosquito> Ubuntu is running on webhost
[18:49] <faust> mosquito: do you have admin access on the server the hosts the script?
[18:49] <mosquito> Yes
[18:50] <bkrvn> Guys guys! My analog sound output stopped working after a restart. Help me debug this please!
[18:50] <habhatti> mosquito: Your Apache/PHP configuration cannot access the DNS for your remote db server.
[18:50] <faust> mosquito: are you able to resolv the hostname that is written in the script from CLI?
[18:50] <tafa2> My server says: 10 packages can be updated. 10 updates are security updates.
[18:50] <tafa2> But apt-get update && apt-get upgrade only show 4 packages to be updated?
[18:50] <bkrvn> I'm on 14.04.1. It was just working half an hour ago. I was fiddling with a second monitor and restarted several times
[18:51] <mosquito> faust: what do you mean by resolv ? that it can not reach it?
[18:51] <bubbasaures> tafa2, run dist-upgrade
[18:51] <habhatti> mosquito Can you look up your db server's hostname from the command line?
[18:52] <mosquito> Ok one second.
[18:52] <dpkg_issues98697> k1l: Sorry.  I'll back it up.  Some months ago I upgraded to 14.04 and after that I started noticing errors on boot and when I tried to run apt-get update.  In the past I've only really had problems when I need to clean up old kernels so today I went in, checked what version was running, which was already 3.5  .  I assumed that was the current one, since usually when I update to do ones it will automatically switch to those.  I then 
[18:52] <bubbasaures> tafa2, dist-upgrade is a security and kernel "ok"
[18:52] <k1l> dpkg_issues98697: ok, try a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a"
[18:52] <tafa2> bubbasaures I see
[18:53] <tafa2> thanks!
[18:53] <bubbasaures> tafa2, Heh, just keep moving.
[18:54] <mosquito> Yes I can.
[18:57] <teaearlgraycold> How do I find out the version of my OSS AMD driver?
[18:58] <habhatti> mosquito: Hmm.
[18:58] <faust> mosquito: are you 100% sure that the hostname in the script is correct?
[18:58] <habhatti> mosquito: Consider using Google DNS nameservers using resolveconf?
[18:59] <mosquito> Yes, I can also give you the logins and you can check it on ur own :P
[19:00] <faust> mosquito: Your problem is strange... if it is not a problem you can write the ip address in the script, this shoudl circumvent the problem...
[19:01] <it_> asd
[19:02] <jak3000> hi all, cant connect remotely to my server i get this error: http://pastie.org/9736666     i do this: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 3306 -j ACCEPT  but continue cant connecting any advice why?
[19:03] <mosquito> Well the configuration is setup allrgiht you can check it up here
[19:03] <mosquito> http://pastebin.com/7543123S
[19:04] <faust> are you sure that this format is correct? $Hoste = '198.100.154.23,1433';
[19:05] <mosquito> It works if I use it on windows server :/ so I it should be correct yes.
[19:05] <nmz787> owen1: make any progress?
[19:05] <t4nk315> bubbasaures, Ok, I got it installing now.
[19:05] <TheBigDeal> Hello
[19:05] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, Excellent.
[19:05] <TheBigDeal> Can i save my applications in another partition instead of the filesystem partition?
[19:06] <bubbasaures> TheBigDeal, Why?
[19:06] <TheBigDeal> bubbasaures, no more space
[19:07] <bubbasaures> TheBigDeal, Probably resizing is what you need.
[19:07] <faust> mosquito: it looks weird to me to use comma as an ip:port separator, usually it is a colon
[19:07] <dpkg_issues98697> k1l: I did the reconfigure, then I tried to fix dependencies again but I'm seeing the same (errors were encountered while processing) should I go ahead and try dist-upgrade?
[19:07] <faust> mosquito: but maybe your script expect it to be like that idk
[19:07] <TheBigDeal> bubbasaures, Yes i know, i wanted to create a live usb to resize the file system partition but i had some problems.
[19:07] <mosquito> Hmm let me change it.
[19:08] <TheBigDeal> bubbasaures, failed to load COM32 and menu.c32 something like that
[19:08] <teaearlgraycold> So it seems like xserver-xorg-video-radeon doesn't support northern island AMD GPUs?
[19:08] <TheBigDeal> bubbasaures, on the boot section
[19:08] <bubbasaures> TheBigDeal, I can't really help you beyond a resize option.
[19:08] <mosquito> No, it still doesn't works :(
[19:09] <k1l> dpkg_issues98697: is /boot a seperate partition?
[19:12] <dpkg_issues98697> k1l: it's lvm, I think that means it has to be separate, right?
[19:12] <k1l> dpkg_issues98697: did you make some modifying of grub?
[19:12] <TheBigDeal> bubbasaures, well, you didn't answer my first question, you just asked another question :)
[19:12] <owen1> nmz787: in mapping my End key to mouse click? no. i think the issue is this command - xmodmap -e 'keycode 115 = Pointer_Button1'   it's not Pointer_Button1
[19:12] <bubbasaures> TheBigDeal, Your first question is a whim, not a good idea.
[19:12] <k1l> dpkg_issues98697: ah, i am not fmailiar with lvm. please make sure there are either the things in /boot in the main partition or there is a /boot partition in "mount"
[19:12] <dpkg_issues98697> k1l: no not on purpose, but this error keeps popping up
[19:12] <dpkg_issues98697> Generating grub configuration file ...cat: /video.lst: No such file or directory /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `'.
[19:12] <dpkg_issues98697> No path or device is specified.
[19:13] <bubbasaures> this is not windows where you would do that easily TheBigDeal
[19:13] <TheBigDeal> bubbasaures, i see :P, thanks
[19:13] <owen1> nmz787: i am also trying to make it harder to type fn key. i want it to be shift+fn so i tried this: xmodmap -e 'keycode 151 = NoSymbol XF86WakeUp NoSymbol'  but nothing happened.
[19:13] <k1l> dpkg_issues98697: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/512753/usr-sbin-grub-probe-error-failed-to-get-canonical-path-of-when-using-g
[19:13] <nmz787> owen1: i don't know much about keyboard remapping, though I did mess with it when I last installed ubuntu
[19:14] <nmz787> owen1: that was more related to some stupid issue with the gnome terminal and changing tabs in it
[19:14] <nmz787> owen1: I was asking about your biose
[19:14] <nmz787> owen1: I saw you mentioning some dd commands, so it seems you were trying to make a bootable disc
[19:14] <t4nk315> bubbasaures, Do I need to have nomodeset permanently added to the boot loader? Now when Ubuntu starts up I get the black screen again.  Do I need to find and install drivers?
[19:15] <nmz787> bootable floppy/usb drive
[19:15] <dpkg_issues98697> k1l: ok, the root directory does have a /boot/ it's not in mount
[19:15] <owen1> nmz787: oh. the bios. i didn't try updating the bios. the reason i wanted to do that is hibernation not working. someone here told me updating the bios is extreme. so i decided to find different solution. havn't find it yet.
[19:15] <k1l> dpkg_issues98697: that is fine (but i am not sure if for lvm)
[19:16] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, Hard to say, I would think drivers are available. nomodeset is a per-session use most often to get in to run updates/upgrades and load anything needed.
[19:16] <t4nk315> alright
[19:16] <t4nk315> Thanks
[19:16] <dpkg_issues98697> k1l: it was working fine with the same partition setup for more than a year, something seems to have gotten odd after the 14.04 upgrade
[19:16] <nmz787> owen1: updating the bios isn't extreme, you just need to be cautious
[19:16] <k1l> dpkg_issues98697: i am afk now. see  the link
[19:17] <owen1> nmz787: i don't know what 'cautious' means
[19:17] <nmz787> owen1: you need to make sure the download of the new image wasn't corrupted
[19:17] <owen1> nmz787: how?
[19:17] <nmz787> owen1: which you do with a CRC or md5 hash
[19:17] <nmz787> owen1: the bios update program might do it for you
[19:17] <nmz787> owen1: if the manufacturer didn't provide the md5 to compare against
[19:18] <bubbasaures> t4nk315, Once installed and having run a update and upgrade there is a additional drivers tab in the software & updates app where we see graphic choices
[19:18] <nmz787> owen1: there should be a program on your computer called md5sum
[19:18] <owen1> nmz787: yup. i know that
[19:18] <owen1> let me look at the lenovo site
[19:18] <nmz787> owen1: if the manufacturer had the md5 sum next to the bios image, you would compare running md5sum on the image you downloaded vs the sum on their site
[19:19] <owen1> nmz787: before i do that, is there a way to tell the version of bios i currently have?
[19:19] <nmz787> owen1: likely in your bios there is a version somewhere
[19:19] <nmz787> you might have to press a key to bring up some help screen
[19:19] <owen1> so i have to restart
[19:19] <nmz787> there may be another way through some utility or ACPI tools
[19:20] <nmz787> owen1: did lenovo give you a bios flash tool, or does it provide the updater through the bios menu?
[19:20] <owen1> nmz787: i don't know (for both questions)
[19:20] <nmz787> owen1: or does it give you an image that it asks you to boot up?
[19:20] <nmz787> ok
[19:21] <nmz787> well I assume the last one then, since you were talking about dd
[19:22] <Prezident> Howdo i remove unity and all this shit and just keep x + firefox?
[19:22] <owen1> nmz787: i was just following a blog post
[19:22] <owen1> nmz787: so i don't know if it's 'official'
[19:22] <owen1> http://positon.org/lenovo-thinkpad-bios-update-with-linux-and-usb
[19:22] <k1l> !language > Prezident
[19:23] <owen1> nmz787: bios revision: 1.17. Firmware Revision: 1.15
[19:24] <Prezident> i answered ubottu
[19:24] <Prezident> Hope you suck it..
[19:24] <Prezident> Stop your shitty spam shit.
[19:24] <nmz787> owen1: second sentence in that post "You have to download the bootable ISO file from Lenovo support site, convert it and copy it to a usb flash drive."
[19:24] <owen1> yup
[19:24] <owen1> looking online
[19:25] <nmz787> owen1: so the image should do the checksum/md5 for you
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> Prezident  stop or leave
[19:26] <nmz787> owen1: the steps in that blog post are not risky at all, unless you don't dd to the correct drive/partition (it should be the USB drive)
[19:26] <nmz787> owen1: in the case of incorrectly dd'ing, you will mess up a drive, not the bios!
[19:27] <owen1> nmz787: on lenovo's website i see BIOS Update Bootable CD, version 1.18 so i have a pretty recent bios. i don't think it's going to help.
[19:27] <nmz787> owen1: there should be a changelog
[19:27] <nmz787> or errata
[19:27] <owen1> oh. let me see
[19:27] <nmz787> that tells you what changed
[19:27] <djinja> any way to get rid of the bell on the right top of unity (with empathy and xchat and stuff)
[19:28] <dorkusmaximus> you could use gnome instead
[19:28] <owen1> nmz787: i downloaded the iso. how do i get the changelog?
[19:28] <nmz787> owen1: link to download page?
[19:28] <nmz787> it should be on the page
[19:28] <owen1> nmz787: the first link - http://support.lenovo.com/vn/vi/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-x-series-laptops/thinkpad-x1-carbon-type-20a7-20a8?c=1
[19:29] <owen1> i have gen 2 (20a7)
[19:29] <nmz787> http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/gruj14uc.txt
[19:29] <nmz787> owen1: ^
[19:29] <nmz787> it was the README
[19:29] <owen1> oh
[19:30] <nmz787> owen1: I don't see anything about hibernation or ACPI or power management
[19:30] <owen1> nmz787: yup! thank a lot
[19:30] <nmz787> owen1: so I don't think it will help :)
[19:31] <nmz787> owen1: have you updated using ubuntu updater?
[19:32] <owen1> nmz787: i tried modifying com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla and also /etc/systemd/logind.conf based on a few blog posts.
[19:32] <nmz787> owen1: did you do a clean install of the latest ubuntu distro?
[19:32] <owen1> nmz787: yup
[19:32] <owen1> i use i3 instead of unity. unity is still installed though.
[19:33] <owen1> should i try to login into unity?
[19:33] <ylmfos> ;l;
[19:33] <nmz787> owen1: hmm, idk
[19:33] <nmz787> owen1: I don't think the window manager would have such an effect
[19:33] <ylmfos> turk var mi
[19:33] <owen1> yeah
[19:34] <ylmfos> burasi nere_
[19:40] <Guest20785> Hi, I was here a little while ago. I have an external /dev/sdd that will not let me delete files from it. How do I get read/write access?
[19:41] <Prezident> try chmod it
[19:41] <Prezident> the files you wanna del.
[19:44] <dormac> Hey I cannot open the Chrome after updating to 14.04 already tried reinstalling, any ideas? I need for a couple of extensions
[19:46] <Guest20785> Prezident: I tried that, the issue is that I already deleted them to the trash but I cannot empty the trash or restore the items to the external hd
[19:47] <Prezident> dormac: are you able to open it as root from terminal?
[19:47] <Prezident> Guest20785: uhm, okay!
[19:48] <dormac> Prezident let me try it, brb
[19:51] <k1l> dormac: open a terminal and run it from there. see what errors come up
[19:51] <k1l> and never ever run gui programs as root "just to test". that will mess with your permissions
 i have a DL380Gen8 server, with 2x ssd and 3x sata, i configured the logical drives and disks are detected, now when i boot to install ubuntu i get no disks detected
[19:55] <dormac> Prezident cannot find the way to open chrome in terminal, can you help me?
[19:56] <k1l> dormac: open a terminal, "chrome" enter
[19:56] <bprompt> dormac:     tried installing the latest chrome?   39 I think
[19:57] <dormac> k1l "chrome: cannot find order" on terminal
[19:57] <Guest20785> If chmod doesn't work to give access to a read-only external hdd, what can you do?
[19:57] <k1l> dormac: sorry, its "google-chrome"
[19:57] <teward> Guest20785: chmod would only help on ext4 systems.  if it's fat32 or ntfs it won't help at all
[19:58] <teward> Guest20785: the solution is to change the mount parameters either by manual mount or in fstab to have the proper permissoins sets
[19:58] <soham> HI! is it possible to login as root in Lubuntu 14?
[19:58] <dormac> k1l got it, it says "/usr/bin/google-chrome: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[19:58] <teward> !root | soham
[19:59] <dormac> k1l weird, i just installed it, i'm gonna try again
[19:59] <Guest20785> teward: ah, right...it is fat32. Can I just reformat the whole thing using to be ext using fdisk? or do I have to change the moutn parameters first?
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> Guest20785  backup first!
[19:59] <k1l> dormac: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[19:59] <soham> Is there a way to start something like this without asking the password? wine /opt/hfs.exe
[20:00] <Guest20785> MonkeyDust: already did
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> dormac  what's the outout of   cat /etc/issue
[20:00] <soham> Sorry ! with GKSU wine /opt/hfs.exe?? I basically want to run a Wine Program as ROOT!
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> soham  wine is "windows" and hfs is "mac" ... what are yoy trying to do?
[20:01] <k1l> soham: why would you ever want this?
[20:01] <soham> Anyone??
[20:01] <teward> Guest20785: the question is what is the ultimate use case
[20:01] <Guest20785> soham: what program are you trying to run as root?
[20:01] <teward> Guest20785: if the use case is cross-platform, no, stick to FAT or NTFS and jsut mount it with adequate permissions
[20:01] <teward> soham: Wine doesn't operate in that method.
[20:01] <soham> HFS is a Windows HTTP File server! I want to use it on Ubuntu! and HFS needs root permission to bind the ports!
 i have a DL380Gen8 server, with 2x ssd and 3x sata, i configured the logical drives and disks are detected, now when i boot to install ubuntu i get no disks detected
[20:02] <dormac> MonkeyDust Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[20:02] <dormac> k1l Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[20:02] <Guest20785> teward: well, I had read/write access and I was backing up data on my external hdd. I run all linux, but I could foresee file transfer to other systems.
[20:02] <soham> teward: Try and see! gksu wine hfs.exe!
[20:02] <k1l> soham: that is just plain idiotic to run a webserver within wine.
[20:02] <teward> soham: the issue with Wine is that if run as `sudo` it'll run under the root namespace and won't work as you expect it to.
[20:02] <teward> soham: it's also a security risk AND idiotic to run webservers within wine
[20:02] <loki__> soham, you are wrong, you can bind > 1024 port
[20:02] <teward> soham: and no, i'm not trying - i already write testcases for wine.
[20:02] <Guest20785> soham: have you tried to use samba?
[20:02] <loki__> and the redirect using iptables
[20:03] <soham> teward: I've checked it! What Im trying to accomplish do Work!! I just need a way to launch it at startup and without the annoying GKSU password prompt!
[20:04] <a13x212> i'm trying to block traffic to specific ip using ufw but doesn't seem to work: sudo ufw deny out to <ip>
[20:04] <soham> a13x212: Firestarter works :P
[20:04] <a13x212> what is firestarter?
[20:05] <soham> Guest20785: Yes! and HFS suports themed fake websites!! You should check HFS and its features!! Then you will understand what IM tryting to do!
[20:05] <soham> a13x212: IpTables GUI. Use Google!
[20:06] <loki__> soham, just write upstart job
[20:06] <k1l> soham: that doesnt make any sense. and if you want to fake sites for illegal purposes its not supported here anyways
[20:07] <soham> loki__: How? What will be the upstart jon to start : wine hfs.exe ?
[20:07] <loki__> soham, basicly i think you need add wine prefix var too
[20:08] <soham> kil: You misunderstood me! It allows you to make Fake websites in the sense, you put 100 files in a folder and flash them via IP as a full blown website!! Please check HFS on Google!
[20:08] <Guest20785> teward: Sorry, I am looking for a link to manual mount or fstab to change permissions
[20:08] <soham> Guest20785: sudo apt-get install pysdm
[20:09] <k1l> soham: there are a billion of native linux webservers that do the exact same.
[20:09] <soham> loki__: Im quite ignorant in that sense!! Can you just write me the upstart job!?
[20:09] <soham> kil; Such as?? And where do I get templates
[20:09] <dormac> k1l solved! tnx for your help
[20:10] <soham> ?
[20:10] <dormac> Prezident solved! tnx for your help
[20:10] <k1l> soham: why do you not think about using a linux program instead of wanting the windows program all the time?
[20:10] <loki__> soham, here is example http://pastebin.com/nBZ6YGes
[20:10] <Prezident> dormac: glads me alot, enjoy the nice chrome.. i prefer lynx myself.
[20:10] <Prezident> luakit is also pretty nice, but have fun!
[20:11] <dormac> Prezident I don't really like it, I just need a couple of its extensions, how is lynx?
[20:11] <loki__> soham, place it into /etc/init and call it like "notebook_fn.conf"
[20:11] <Prezident> lynx is terminal based, luakit might be the quickest one in world.
[20:11] <Prezident> luakit is desktop version.
[20:12] <boxmein> wolo
[20:12] <zgn> hello, im currently creating a windows 7 install usb using win7, how would i go about keeping lubuntu 12.04 in a dual-boot? preferablly a pretty gui dual boot i have a powerful rig
[20:13] <zgn> can anyone help me?
[20:13] <zgn> hello, im currently creating a windows 7 install usb using win7, how would i go about keeping lubuntu 12.04 in a dual-boot? preferablly a pretty gui dual boot i have a powerful rig
[20:22] <frecel> is askubuntu down for everyone else or is it just me?
[20:22] <k1l> frecel: works fine
[20:24] <Guest20785> teward: alright, I backed up my /etc/fstab and I am looking at fstab, but I do not see my currently mounted external hdd
[20:25] <Guest20785> teward: http://pastebin.com/aK3ketRS
[20:26] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know of a way to change the color of my led's in my Tt Poseidon Z keyboard using ubuntu?
[20:26] <bubbasaures> Guest20785, You add to fstab for mounting
[20:27] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: Yep, External automounting drive, nust make an enty in that gile to make it "automount" : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 .
[20:27] <Bashing-om> nust/must*
[20:30] <shadowe989> *sigh* people seem to forget how IRC works... Its not active chat. I had the answer to a guys question above but he left. Is RAM and CPU cycles in such short supply again? lol
[20:30] <shadowe989> we should get the topic set to ask people to wait a little bit before leaving
[20:31] <Guest20785> Bashing-om: Sorry, I didn't quite understand your last comment. I am looking at the link, not sure how to add /dev/sdd1 automount
[20:31] <k1l> shadowe989: good idea with just one problem: who reads the topic :/
[20:32] <shadowe989> k1l: I do, ##Python has me by the... neck with the "no lol zone" rule.
[20:32] <shadowe989> k1l: speaking of topic, 10.04LTS is still supported?
[20:32] <k1l> shadowe989: the server version, yes. the desktop, no
[20:33] <shadowe989> k1l: Oh wow, thanks, didn't notice server edition had longer support. nice.
[20:33] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: show us -> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit ( MBR partitioning), and we show ya the edit to make.
[20:33] <k1l> shadowe989: back then. from 12.04 on both lts versions do have 5 years support
[20:34] <Guest20785> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/VcddfUEb
[20:34] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: Looking at http://pastebin.com/VcddfUEb , gimme a bit .
[20:41] <Lock_> If an interface device shows up in ifconfig -a yet does not show up in the interface condif file is it as simple as manually adding the interface into the file?
[20:41] <Lock_> *config
[20:42] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: OK, working,, we are deaking here with vfatfile system ( 4GB file size linirs !) .. let's get the UUID -> sudo blkid | pastebinit <- .
[20:43] <Bashing-om> deaking/dealing*
[20:44] <Guest20785> Bushing-om: http://pastebin.com/ymncvzAn
[20:45] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: looking at http://pastebin.com/ymncvzAn .
[20:45] <Ad1> hi, does anyone tried new Xubuntu 14.10?
[20:46] <habhatti>  I did, briefly, Ad1
[20:46] <Ad1> it haven't got any problems with stability or programs compatibility?
[20:46] <habhatti> Um, worked fine for me with everything except Netbeans.
[20:46] <k1l> Ad1: that depends on your system and your programs.  best is if you just test it yourselv
[20:47] <Ad1> hmm... i have TV card, and it doesn't work on live cd
[20:48] <bri_> Anyone having a problem with youtube crashing in chromium?  It blacks out the screen then I have to manually shut the computer down
[20:48] <zoidfarb1> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 in gnome-fallback mode. Can I upgrade to Ubuntu GNOME 14.10?
[20:49] <zoidfarb1> Or would I have to do a complete reinstall?
[20:50] <ubuntuaddicted> trying to setup a udev rules, how do i make sure a certain webcam always get's mapped to /dev/video0 and the other one always to /dev/video1?
[20:50] <Ad1> zoidfarb1: i think you can
[20:52] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: sudo mkdir /media/<username>/external , add to /etc/fatab  file -> uuid=46FD-94BA /media/<username>/external auto users,uid=1000,gid=100,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137 0 0 // Where <username> is your actual username. See how this works out for you, the options are variable.
[20:54] <Blinkiz> Hello. I having a weird network speed problem. I can not come over 380 Mbit with iperf (or anything else) on my Ubuntu 14.04 server. How can I troubleshoot this? The server is a virtualization host, I have the same upper speed limit between host and guest.
[20:54] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: Make the above, and prior to rebboting, check with terminal command -> mount -a <- no output here is good-to-go .
[20:55] <Bashing-om> rebooting*
[20:55] <Ad1> i've got problem with Medion Creatix CTX948 TV Card when I'm running Xubuntu 14.10 LiveCD, will it correctly find my TV Card and it will work?
[20:58] <Guest20785> Bashing-om: special device uuid=46FD-94BA does not exist
[20:58] <kovisk> hi
[20:59] <kovisk> how to restore the settings of my audio? this robotic-sounding.
[20:59] <Guest20785> Bashing-om,: Here is my fstab change http://pastebin.com/iusR13St
[20:59] <Guest20785> kovisk: are you using alsa?
[21:00] <kovisk> Guest20785, yes
[21:00] <kovisk> lubuntu
[21:00] <kovisk> 14.04
[21:00] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: is the external drive plugged in ? did you -> mkdir /media/guest20785/external - where quest20785 is your actual login username ?
[21:01] <Guest20785> Bashing-om: yes
[21:01] <kovisk> how to restore the settings of my audio?
[21:01] <kovisk> use lubuntu 14.04
[21:01] <kovisk> help
[21:01] <arunpyasi> guys, please help me fix an ftp file permission stuff :D
[21:02] <Guest20785> kovisk: what sounds robotic sounding? you can try sudo speaker-test to see if it is outputting properly
[21:03] <orangematt> I have a failed Ubuntu Server 14.04 installation (lost power midway through). Tried to reinstall from LiveUSB, but the disk doesn’t appear to the installer. I booted into a trial desktop environment and discovered that there is a volume on that disk mounted to /dev/loop1 that I can’t delete. The drive doesn’t show up in Gparted, either. Any ideas?
[21:03] <rannger9997> hello!
[21:04] <kovisk> in fact he's not serious, just out the voice.
[21:04] <Guest20785> kovisk: sudo alsa force-reload will reload the existing configuration after boot
[21:04] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: And ''e' is your true login username ? ? else as we are looking at encrypted file systems, I no longer know .
[21:04] <frixcool> hi
[21:04] <Guest20785> Bashing-om: yep, e
[21:04] <kovisk> no bass
[21:04] <Seveas> orangematt: /dev/loop1 is a loopback device (to mount an iso). That's related to the live desktop you are running :)
[21:05] <Seveas> orangematt: can you please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[21:05] <Seveas> kovisk: all about that bass, bout that bass, no treble :)
[21:06] <Guest20785> kovisk: you can't hear low tones, is it a laptop?
[21:06] <kovisk> Guest20785, no use laptop, yes desktop
[21:06] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: Sorry, IF this were a normal install, should workie; with encryption, I do not know .. others advise better, please .
[21:06] <orangematt> seveas: yes, give me one second
[21:08] <Seveas> kovisk: there's no global equalizer setting in Ubuntu afaik. Try using a different application to play the file to see if that's correct.
[21:09] <rio_zenta> Hello
[21:09] <kovisk> Seveas, I've done it. tried VLC, then qmmp.
[21:09] <rio_zenta> When trying to follow these instructions here: http://www.sudo-juice.com/how-to-a-set-static-ip-in-ubuntu/ .. I managed to get a static IP set up yesterday, but now it is no longer working today. Is there a fault with network manager?
[21:10] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: Remove the "//" from the end of the fstab line .. that was but a seperator for my own statement, not a part of the fstab format !
[21:10] <Seveas> kovisk: ok, did you do anything special toyour sound setup, such as removing pulseaudio and/or installing jack?
[21:11] <kovisk> Seveas, no
[21:11] <Guest20785> Bashing-om: still does not exist
[21:11] <ubuntuaddicted> how can i ensure a certain webcam always is /dev/video0?
[21:12] <Seveas> ubuntuaddicted: you can probably do some mucking about with udev rules
[21:12] <Seveas> ubuntuaddicted: for details, use google, I don't know them by heart either :)
[21:13] <rio_zenta> anybody else had issues with network manager?
[21:14] <ubuntuaddicted> Seveas, i know i need to use a udev rule BUT what i'm confused on is i want to ensure a certain webcam is always mapped to /dev/video0 because by default guvcview uses that webcam when i open it
[21:14] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: Again I am back to " I do not know" as we know that it does in fact exist " /dev/sdd1: UUID="46FD-94BA" TYPE="vfat" " Why it is not being read I do not know.
[21:17] <orangematt> Seveas: Here is the output of my fdisk: pastebin.com/LmbUUXhr
[21:18] <Seveas> ubuntuaddicted: http://askubuntu.com/questions/187251/udev-webcam-rule-read-but-not-respected
[21:19] <Seveas> ubuntuaddicted: you seem to have a single 16GB disk with a single partition that is currently formatted as fat32 drive for windows. Do you want to completely wipe this drive and just install Ubuntu? Ot is this perhaps the live usb on a 16gb usb drive?
[21:20] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: Still should workie (?_) :: File types: >> auto: The file system type (ext3, iso9660, etc) it detected automatically. Usually works. Used for removable devices (CD/DVD, Floppy drives, or USB/Flash drives) as the file system may vary on these devices.
[21:20] <Seveas> err, that last one was for orangematt :)
[21:21] <orangematt> Seveas: That’s the live usb. I have another 250gb sata disk that I was trying to install Ubuntu to, but it is no longer seen by the system.
[21:22] <Guest20785> Bashing-om: oh well thanks anyway
[21:22] <Seveas> orangematt: the brownout may have killed it :(
[21:22] <orangematt> :-( very sad
[21:23] <orangematt> Seveas: Thanks for your help
[21:23] <Seveas> orangematt: can you pastebin the output of dmesg? It may say something about the drive.
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Guest20785: I am dissappointed not working out, ask again, see if those with encryption experience can advise better.
[21:23] <orangematt> Seveas: sure
[21:27] <orangematt> Seveas: pastebin.com/5QFEJzcq
[21:31] <Seveas> orangematt: nothing :( At this point I'd check if the bios still sees the disk. If it does, try another os and see what happens. If it does not, power off and unplug/replog the sata controller (if it's a separate board) and the drive (both data and power)
[21:31] <Seveas> and when I say power off, I mean remove power cable (and battery, if laptop)
[21:32] <Seveas> rio_zenta: what's the problem with networkmanager?
[21:32] <frankdrey> so for some reason, when my laptop is plugged in, the mouse battery shows up in the status bar
[21:33] <rio_zenta> Seveas: I can't seem to assign a static ip address without it failing
[21:33] <orangematt> Seveas: Thanks. I will try that.
[21:33] <Seveas> rio_zenta: how is it failing?
[21:33] <bekks> rio_zenta: "without it failing"?
[21:34] <rio_zenta> no internet connection, Seveas , bekks
[21:34] <jt> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my macbook retina. The only option it gives me for installation type is 'replace Mac OSX with Ubuntu' or 'Something else', if I do something else I have to setup my own partitions. When I go to 'Something else' I have 250 gigs of free space.
[21:34] <bekks> rio_zenta: Then how do you configure your static IP?
[21:34] <jt> Is there something wrong with the 14.10 installer? Does anyone know what the partition breakdowns should be for a macbook pro retina?
[21:34] <New2ubuntu> HI everyone
[21:34] <frankdrey> plugged in: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vb0dqf7pqcj6i96/Screenshot%20from%202014-11-22%2013%3A33%3A31.png?dl=0
[21:34] <Seveas> rio_zenta: my first guess would be that you entered the wrong settings :)
[21:34] <frankdrey> unplugged: https://www.dropbox.com/s/un51jvygpxotqyz/Screenshot%20from%202014-11-22%2013%3A34%3A00.png?dl=0
[21:35] <New2ubuntu> I recently installed Ubuntu and it shows Gallium 0.4 on NVE6 under Graphics when it should show Nvidia GEforce 660
[21:35] <rio_zenta> Seveas, weirdly, it worked last night, now it is failing
[21:35] <New2ubuntu> How do I solve this?
[21:35] <bekks> New2ubuntu: How do you solve what?
[21:35] <New2ubuntu> bekks I recently installed Ubuntu and it shows Gallium 0.4 on NVE6 under Graphics when it should show Nvidia GEforce 660
[21:35] <bekks> New2ubuntu: Which driver do you use?
[21:36] <Seveas> !nvidia
[21:36] <New2ubuntu> CUrrently using NVIDIA binary driver - version 331.38 from nvidia 331 updates
[21:37] <Seveas> rio_zenta: do you have an IP? And a default gateway? Can you ping the default gateway? Can you ping other devices on your local network? Is the cable plugged in? :)
[21:38] <rio_zenta> Seveas, I set the IP address at .0.175 (assuming that 175 is way out of the DCHP range). I also used nm-tool to check for the correct DNS, gateway, etc.
[21:38] <Ben64> New2ubuntu: where exactly are you talking about
[21:38] <bekks> New2ubuntu: Can you pastebin "sudo lspci -k" please and provide the URL?
[21:38] <Ben64> New2ubuntu: post a pastebin or screenshot
[21:39] <Seveas> rio_zenta: that didn't answer half my questions :)
[21:39] <rio_zenta> Seveas, I pinged default gateway, failure resulted there.
[21:39] <rio_zenta> cable plugged in, yes.
[21:40] <rio_zenta> Seveas, pinged another device, same result as pinging gateway
[21:40] <Seveas> rio_zenta: ok, so your gateway isn't liking you. Is the link up? (sudo ethtool eth0)
[21:40] <New2ubuntu> beeks and ben64: http://pastebin.com/RBHPw8uE
[21:40] <New2ubuntu> here's the pastebin
[21:44] <bekks> New2ubuntu: You are still using nouveau, not the nvidia driver.
[21:44] <New2ubuntu> how do I switch to the nvidia driver?
[21:44] <bekks> New2ubuntu: could you pastebin "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" please?
[21:45] <New2ubuntu> bekks: http://pastebin.com/rfS6uNEh
[21:45] <wagle> my 14.04.1 system wont startup xwindows today..  worked fine until a update yesterday..  is this known?
[21:46] <Ben64> New2ubuntu: have you restarted since installing nvidia drivers
[21:46] <bubbasaures> wagle, Update include a kernel?
[21:46] <New2ubuntu> ben64, not yet
[21:46] <Ben64> New2ubuntu: do that then
[21:46] <New2ubuntu> ok, I will do it and report back in
[21:46] <New2ubuntu> thanks
[21:47] <bekks> wagle: Works fine here.
[21:47] <wagle> bubbasaures: no, but i rebooted
[21:47] <LordFoobar> Hi, yesterday I dual-booted to Windows (after about 6 months of not doing so) and Windows screwed the system date. Now, my computer show one hour behind (Windows probably changed DST... by changing the system clock.... who knows...) and, now, I can't change it from Ubuntu Gnome 14.04. ... How does one set up NTP and sync with Gnome 3? All I read on the web is something with systemd (?)
[21:47] <LordFoobar> Why isn't there a UI for that?
[21:48] <bubbasaures> LordFoobar, This a wubi install?
[21:48] <k1l> LordFoobar: click on the system clock, then settings for date and time. there is a setting for npt syncing
[21:49] <LordFoobar> bubbasaures, no. I'm a sorta "long" Linux user and installed Windows 7 mostly for my games when I bought this computer early this year. I installed Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 in dual boot after that using the live CD
[21:50] <LordFoobar> k1l, all I see is "Automatic Date and Time" and "Automatic Timezone", but no "sync" button, or anywhere to setup the ntp server address
[21:50] <new2ubuntu> Thank you guys, it worked!
[21:50] <Cykit> How do you recover the root password ?
[21:50] <bekks> LordFoobar: It just uses the Ubuntu ntp servers.
[21:50] <bekks> !root | Cykit
[21:51] <Seveas> Cykit: you don't. But you can set it with sudo or via recovery mode.
[21:51] <k1l> LordFoobar: oh yes, there used to be some setting. seems like gnome got rid of that. but the sync is done with the ubuntu ntp servers iirc
[21:51] <LordFoobar> bekks, then, why isn't it sync'ing the time? It's been over 15 hours now and the computer is still behind 1 hour
[21:51] <k1l> Cykit: you dont need to recover. there is none.
[21:52] <bekks> LordFoobar: Because NTP will not change the time in one big step, but will adjust it slowly.
[21:52] <Seveas> LordFoobar: ntpd doesn't do large leaps. You're going to want to do a manual ntpdate call.
[21:52] <Cykit> Then what is the purpose of having root access?
[21:52] <LordFoobar> Seveas, details?
[21:52] <LordFoobar> Seveas, I'm comfortable with the terminal
[21:52] <k1l> Cykit: please read the message and link from the bot
[21:52] <Seveas> LordFoobar: sudo /etc/init.d/ntpd stop; sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com; sudo /etc/init.d/ntpd start
[21:52] <Cykit> thanks
[21:52] <bekks> Cykit: The purpose is the ability of performing actions requiring root privileges.
[21:53] <Seveas> LordFoobar: you can also tell Ubuntu that the hardware clock runs on local time instead of UTC, to cooperate with windows.
[21:53] <Seveas> (though I forgot how, you'll have to google it :))
[21:54] <LordFoobar> Seveas, seems like the ntp deamon is not installed O_o
[21:54] <Seveas> heh.
[21:54] <frankdrey> hwclock --localtime --systohc is how I did it in Arch, not sure if there are any issues with that in Ubuntu
[21:55] <bekks> frankdrey: There are now issues with that in Ubuntu. But it doesnt change time slowly, but in one big step.
[21:55] <Seveas> frankdrey: that's how to do it once, but iirc there's an initscript that you'll need to tell what to do too
[21:55] <frankdrey> ah
[21:56] <Seveas> It's been ages since I had to care about windows though :)
[21:56]  * frankdrey doesn't multi boot :P
[21:57] <Bashing-om> Seveas: Info: Windows defaults to considering the hardware clock to being local time. Ubuntu (and pretty much all *NIX systems) defaults to considering the hardware clock to be UTC. So every time you boot Windows it's "fixing" the hardware clock, and setting it back X hours from UTC to your local time.
[21:57] <frankdrey> i just keep all my files online and when i get bored of an OS, wipe and reinstall
[21:57] <Seveas> The only multiboot I do is wearing two boots. 'cause wearing only one is silly :)
[21:57] <frankdrey> :p
[21:57] <Seveas> Bashing-om: if you had read what's going on, you might have guessed that I already know this :)
[21:58] <rio_zenta> Seveas, Is it possible that my router is using the full range for DCHP and that is the issue?
[21:58] <Seveas> rio_zenta: could be, but I can't help you debugging if you don't answer my questions.
[21:59] <rio_zenta> frankdrey, You've probably never had to deal with the nightmare of setting your system up for dev work
[21:59] <Bashing-om> Seveas: OK, then you know to check in " /etc/default/rcS " ?
[21:59] <rio_zenta> Seveas, I think I did answer all your questions
[21:59] <rio_zenta> Seveas, Even changing my DNS from router to ISP didn't work.
[21:59] <Seveas> Bashing-om: no, that's the bit I was missing. LordFoobar did you see what Bashing-om just said? the UTC setting in that file is what you need.
[21:59] <frankdrey> rio_zenta, eh, i do android apps, install android sdk + intellij + maven, i'm good
[22:00] <wagle> nouveau doesnt work, yet it was reinstalled, causing the nvidia driver to barf..  yay
[22:00] <rio_zenta> Don't you need to compile android apps? frankdrey
[22:00] <Seveas> rio_zenta: we're not at DNS yet. We're at the link layer. Does 'sudo ethtool eth0' say that link is detected?
[22:00] <AlexPortable> My mouse went unresponsive and froze for 10 secs, then it worked again, but I couldn't click anything. Keyboard was compeltely unresponsive. What can be the problem?
[22:00] <LordFoobar> Seveas, Bashing-om, huh?
[22:01] <k1l> AlexPortable: see dmesg
[22:01] <rio_zenta> ethool: command not found
[22:01] <AlexPortable> just run that command?
[22:01] <rio_zenta> Seveas, ^^^
[22:01] <k1l> AlexPortable: yes
[22:01] <AlexPortable> i must say that I force turned off the system, so i'm not quite sure if it saved everything
[22:01] <Seveas> LordFoobar: see Bashing-om's last messages for details on how to make Ubuntu cooperate with windows when it comes to time.
[22:01] <k1l> AlexPortable: ...
[22:01] <rio_zenta> AlexPortable, Problem could be many things. Just reset and continue using
[22:02] <k1l> AlexPortable: than see in /var/log the logrotations of syslog and dmesg
[22:02] <Bashing-om> LordFoobar: " # assume that the BIOS clock is set to UTC time (recommended) >> UTC=yes . Set to no, and see what results .
[22:02] <LordFoobar> Bashing-om, yeah, I see that :) I was wondering if there was any other magic setting I had to use
[22:03] <Seveas> rio_zenta: of fun... set it back to dhcp for a bit and install ethtool.
[22:03] <LordFoobar> Bashing-om, it's already "no"
[22:03] <frankdrey> rio_zenta, yeah just need jdk, which is usually a dependency anyway, and intellij has a built in build system that is good enough
[22:04] <Bashing-om> LordFoobar: Default is 'yes' // might try the default and see (??) .
[22:04] <rio_zenta> That's great to see frankdrey . These days, even JavaScript needs  things like NPM :-/
[22:04] <AlexPortable> rio_zenta: well i have problems more often. 10.04 ran without any issue
[22:04] <rio_zenta> Aah okay AlexPortable , that is why we can assist you if probs are persistent :)
[22:06] <AlexPortable> 22:41:33 dbus[625]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' (using servicehelper)
[22:06] <AlexPortable> 22:41:33 dbus[625]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
[22:06] <AlexPortable> 22:52:25 kernel: [41540.688020] [sched_delayed] sched: RT throttling activated
[22:06] <k1l> AlexPortable: put more than just that into the pastbin
[22:06] <AlexPortable> ok
[22:06] <LordFoobar> Bashing-om, doesn't do anything. Restarting ntp and running ntpdate does not change anything. wth
[22:06] <rio_zenta> Use this instead: https://pastee.org
[22:06] <frankdrey> rio_zenta, ah :/
[22:07] <k1l> AlexPortable: if you rebooted you must see the .0 or .1 logs.
[22:07] <Bashing-om> LordFoobar: 1 hour ... are you effected by daylight saving time ? perhaps there is a setting for this ??
[22:08] <LordFoobar> Bashing-om, yes, but the time is already set one hour behind, like if it was applying DST over NTP
[22:08] <AlexPortable> http://pastebin.com/swkkGyrz
[22:09] <AlexPortable> the 22:54 is rebooted. not sure about the rest
[22:09] <LordFoobar> Bashing-om, GMT-5 is 17:08, yet, NTP sync at 16:08
[22:09] <bekks> LordFoobar: Which timezone are you in?
[22:10] <LordFoobar> GMT-5
[22:10] <rio_zenta> Seveas, ethtool installed. Should I now retry manual settings on Network Manager and then run ethtool?
[22:10] <bekks> LordFoobar: And which country is that? :)
[22:10] <Bashing-om> LordFoobar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime (?) .
[22:10] <AlexPortable> k1l:  http://pastebin.com/swkkGyrz
[22:10] <rio_zenta> canada
[22:10] <LordFoobar> hmm... Canada, the same time as New York
[22:11] <bekks> LordFoobar: So why dont you select US/New York then?
[22:11] <LordFoobar> I did :)
[22:11] <bekks> You said you selected GMT-5
[22:11] <LordFoobar> http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/gmt-5/
[22:11] <LordFoobar> bekks, ^^
[22:12] <bekks> LordFoobar: GMT != UTC.
[22:12] <rio_zenta> It is possible that the GMT hasn't adjusted for daylight savings
[22:12] <k1l> AlexPortable: which ubuntu? native install?
[22:12] <LordFoobar> bekks, Ubuntu says that, in New York, right now, the time is 4:12pm
[22:12] <LordFoobar> bekks, which is false
[22:13] <rio_zenta> is new york 5.12pm?
[22:13] <LordFoobar> rio_zenta, yes
[22:14] <AlexPortable> k1l: 14.04 yes
[22:14] <LordFoobar> rio_zenta, http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/new-york
[22:14] <rio_zenta> Does that mean that for GMT-, they adjust the time forward and not backward? eg. New York goes from 4.12pm in summer to 5.12pm in winter?
[22:14] <bekks> LordFoobar: Whats the output of "cat /etc/timezone"?
[22:14] <LordFoobar> rio_zenta, huh, no :P
[22:15] <LordFoobar> bekks, "America/New_York" (as I said)
[22:15] <rio_zenta> LordFoobar, You could just set it to GMT-4 and carry on until you change it again next year :P
[22:15] <k1l> AlexPortable: "something" blocked your system. maybe some heavy load. but nothing i can see. next time dont reboot but do report a bug then. so the devs can have a look
[22:16] <bekks> LordFoobar: You said GMT-5 ;) However - did you try to disable NTP, set the clock manually, run sudo hwclock -systohc; and enable NTP again?
[22:19] <user1> hi guys, I would like to use the default tty font in Unity, but I can't this font back in unity-tweak-tool. Can somebody help to find and setup this font?
[22:22] <LordFoobar> rio_zenta, I would rather not, no :)
[22:23] <orangematt> Seveas: Found a solution. I reset the BIOS by reinstalling the CMOS battery and the drive showed up. Thanks for your help.
[22:23] <user1> hi guys, I would like to use the default tty font in Unity, but I can't this font back in unity-tweak-tool. Can somebody help to find and setup this font?
[22:23] <LordFoobar> bekks, unless I can manually set the time, then try to sync... I don't know why the NTP servers would return a false timestamp
[22:23] <guntbert> !repeat | user1
[22:24] <bekks> LordFoobar: They dont. As I said, NTP will not change your time in one big step, but in very smal intervals.
[22:25] <rio_zenta> ping Seveas ]
[22:25] <onemansubmarine> hi, is it possible to use the cool-retro-term on ubuntu 12.04?
[22:26] <onemansubmarine> so far I have only found instrunctions for Ubuntu 14
[22:30] <fadi> HELLO
[22:30] <fadi> how are you ?
[22:31] <k1l> fadi: good. how can we help you?
[22:31] <fadi> iam new here
[22:32] <fadi> i dont know what i do :(
[22:32] <k1l> fadi: :)  we have another channel for talking: #ubuntu-offtopic . this channel is for solving ubuntu issues
[22:33] <fadi> how i can enter it ?
[22:33] <ChogyDan> can anyone help me figure out which kernel the current 3.16 ubuntu kernel corresponds to in the mainline kernel ppa?
[22:33] <TriNiTy> its always a good feeling when you have accomplished something
[22:33] <TriNiTy> an others bear witness to talent
[22:33] <k1l> fadi: rightclick on the name and select join channel
[22:33] <TriNiTy> not to be too flamboyantly cocky
[22:34] <TriNiTy> The Feels son
[22:34] <fadi> can you send me the link again mr.kil
[22:34] <Seveas> rio_zenta: hi. I was distracted by youtube :) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diU70KshcjA)
[22:34] <k1l> !ot | fadi
[22:35] <Seveas> rio_zenta: yes, try the manual settings again and see what happens
[22:35] <tavoe> Ok. I have done something bad to my hard drive
[22:35] <rio_zenta> Seveas, the output of ethtool for manual settings is the same for DCHP
[22:36] <fadi> hi
[22:36] <rio_zenta> fadi, scroll to the words #ubuntu-offtopic, right click and "join room"
[22:36] <Seveas> rio_zenta: 'link detected: yes' ?
[22:36] <rio_zenta> *channel
[22:36] <fadi> which room?
[22:36] <rio_zenta> Seveas, yes
[22:36] <k1l> !ot | fadi
[22:36] <tavoe> If it is plugged in and I boot, I can't even get into BIOS. So, I'm booting from a flash drive with the HD unplugged. I want to copy the data off the HD and format it, but ubuntu isn't finding the drive as it can't be plugged in a boot. What are my choices?
[22:37] <rio_zenta> fadi, #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:37] <mcilroy_> is there a command like cat, but it writes the argument string like: cat "this line of text" | ....
[22:37] <SchrodingersScat> mcilroy_: like echo?
[22:37] <Seveas> rio_zenta: ok, layer 1 and 2 covered. Now gateway. What's your IP and the router's IP?
[22:37] <mcilroy_> GODDAMNIT, lol
[22:37] <SchrodingersScat> mcilroy_: also printf
[22:38] <mcilroy_> i don't know why i thought echo couldnt be piped, so i didnt even check.
[22:38] <mcilroy_> thanks
[22:38] <rio_zenta> Seveas, my routers IP is at .0.1 and the IP for the machine is set to .0.175
[22:39] <Seveas> with the same numbers before the .0.1 and .0.175 I hope? :)
[22:39] <rio_zenta> Seveas, yep :)
[22:39] <Seveas> rio_zenta: ok, what does route -n say?
[22:39] <rio_zenta> in CLI? Seveas
[22:39] <SchrodingersScat> mcilroy_: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[22:39] <Seveas> rio_zenta: correct
[22:40] <mcilroy_> thanks man. it was just a weird brain slip
[22:40] <rio_zenta> Seveas, It's giving me the Kernal IP routing table. Output is 3 values
[22:40] <rio_zenta> Should there be one for .0.175? Seveas
[22:41] <Seveas> you should have 2 lines with numbers
[22:42] <Seveas> 0.0.0.0 x.x.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
[22:42] <ChogyDan> is there a better room to ask about kernel bugs?
[22:42] <Seveas> and x.x.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 9 0 0 eth0
[22:43] <rio_zenta> Seveas, I have 3 :-/ the middle value is:
[22:43] <bekks> rio_zenta: Why dont you pastebin the entire output of netstat -rn? :)
[22:43] <Seveas> bekks: becaue he doesn't have a working network connection :)
[22:44] <rio_zenta> x.x.0.0   0.0.0.0   255.255.0.0   U   1000   0   0   eth0
[22:44] <Seveas> though he could switch back to dhcp for thi
[22:44] <meli> hi, can anyone please help me with a gnumeric problem?
[22:44] <rio_zenta> bekks, The system that is broken doesn't have internet access :-/
[22:45] <rio_zenta> I don't know if this makes sense Seveas , but the middle value has an IP that is strange. Destination: 169.254.0.0 ?
[22:45] <x_root> hey, just removed the ppa from gnome 3.12 (@ ubuntu 14.04)
[22:46] <Seveas> rio_zenta: hmm, that looks like an auto-assigned IP. switch back to dhcp and pastebin the full output
[22:46] <rio_zenta> meli, state your problem and we can try helping :)
[22:46] <bekks> rio_zenta: Thats an APIPA IP address, which indicates that a DHCP interface did not get a valid IP.
[22:46] <Seveas> bekks: he's trying to set up a static IP :)
[22:46] <x_root> now i'm trying to install the gnome 3.10, but i have a problem with the dependencies due to gnome 3.12
[22:46] <LordFoobar> exit
[22:46] <LordFoobar> lol fail
[22:46] <k1l> x_root: did you use ppa-purge?
[22:46] <Seveas> x_root: removing a PPA does not remove the packages you installed from it.
[22:47] <k1l> x_root: and did you run "sudo apt-get update"?
[22:48] <x_root> kll yes, ppa-purge
[22:48] <x_root> and no, didn't used update.. (yet..)
[22:48] <meli> thanks so much in advance. i need to make a line diagram. the problem is that the cells with numbers begin with an apostroph. i tried to change it to numbers format but i can't do it by marking all, it only allows one at a time
[22:48] <x_root> Seveas, what should i do now? o.O
[22:48] <meli> this is quite a big document
[22:48] <meli> it doesn't work to search and replace either
[22:49] <rio_zenta> Seveas, It looks like the output for DCHP is the exact same as what it was for manual, except line 3 has Metric: 1
[22:49] <TriNiTy> dont worry im not coming down on any of you
[22:49] <TriNiTy> or patronizing
[22:49] <TriNiTy> oi love linux aswel
[22:49] <TriNiTy> l
[22:50] <meli> i also tried to turn it around and make a diagram first but then i didn't know how to add the actual value
[22:50] <rio_zenta> k1l effectively killed Trinity
[22:50] <Seveas> rio_zenta: he'll have his reasons for that :)
[22:51] <x_root> same error, "impossible fix the problems, you hold broken packages"..
[22:51] <rio_zenta> Seveas, does it look more and more like I need to decrease my DCHP range ?
[22:51] <e__> Hi, I have been plugging away at this all day...I cannot delete files "unable to find or create trash directory"
[22:51] <e__> http://pastebin.com/1Eb1HxYh
[22:51] <k1l> x_root: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:51] <e__> that is my /etc/fstab
[22:52] <Seveas> rio_zenta: no, it looks more and more like you're unwilling to be helped. I keep asking for output of commands and not getting it. This is a bit frustrating.
[22:52] <x_root> ok, gotta try now kll :)
[22:52] <rio_zenta> aah Seveas :-/
[22:52] <rio_zenta> Hold on :-/
[22:53] <Seveas> e__: what does this command say? ls -lad ~/.local/ ~/.local/share ~/.local/share/Trash*
[22:54] <e__> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9182479/
[22:55] <zenta_2> Seveas: https://pastee.org/gctm5
[22:56] <Cykit> Trinity aussie?
[22:56] <Seveas> e__: you somehow screwed up your trash directory and it's now owned by root. sudo chown -R e:e ~/.local/share/Trash
[22:57] <meli> no idea on how to fix my diagram problem? :(
[22:58] <rio_zenta> meli, Can you show a screenshot of it? I can't understand what you're trying to do.
[22:59] <Seveas> zenta_2: sudo arp -d x.x.0.1; ping x.x.0.1; arp -n
[22:59] <Seveas> rio_zenta: does the ip address appear in the arp cache after that?
[22:59] <e__> Seveas: Thank you, that seems to have done the trick for being able to delete my own files. However, I do not have permission to delete files from my external hd either.
[23:00] <Seveas> e__: there's probably a trash folder in the root of that drive
[23:00] <Seveas> something like /path/to/drive/.Trash-1000
[23:00] <e__> Seveas: it is fat 32, is there a way to find that trash folder? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9182575/
[23:00] <Seveas> it'll need the same treatment
[23:01] <meli> http://i59.tinypic.com/153xs2x.png
[23:02] <sloantothebone> Hello!
[23:02] <meli> so i need the data from B,C, F,G and J,K
[23:02] <sloantothebone> My battery icon is frozen :(
[23:02] <sloantothebone> can anyone help me?
[23:02] <rio_zenta> Seveas, must I do this with manual settings or DCHP?
[23:02] <meli> but it appears as text format, since it has an '
[23:03] <e__> Seveas: so sudo chown /dev/sdd1 -R e:e ~/media/46FD-94BA?
[23:03] <Seveas> rio_zenta: manual
[23:03] <Seveas> e__: no, that'd be quite wrong
[23:04] <Seveas> e__: is the mountpoint of /dev/sdd1  /media/46FD-94BA?
[23:04] <meli> tried to convert to numbers format but it only allows to convert one cell at a time even if i mark all that i would like to convert
[23:04] <sloantothebone> My battery icon is frozen can anyone help me?
[23:04] <e__> Seveas: yes
[23:04] <Seveas> !repeat | sloantothebone
[23:04] <meli> so the question is: how i make these six columns into a line diagram?
[23:04] <e__> Seveas: actually /media/e/46FD-94BA...
[23:05] <Seveas> e__: pastebin the output of this (edit out files you don't want to show): ls -la /media/46FD-94BA/.??*
[23:05] <Seveas> err, wait
[23:05] <Seveas> e__: pastebin the output of this (edit out files you don't want to show): ls -lad /media/46FD-94BA/.??*
[23:05] <sloantothebone> !repeat | sloantothebone
[23:07] <ChogyDan> Can anyone help my find the mainline-ppa build that is connected with the current 14.10 kernel?
[23:07] <rio_zenta> Seveas, yes, the IP address I set appears, but I keep getting Destination Host Unreachable
[23:08] <Seveas> rio but does the gateway IP appear?
[23:08] <e__> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/DCaehxYT I think I added the .Trash-1000 directory a few minutes ago
[23:08] <rio_zenta> Seveas, after hitting CTRL+C? Yes, it gives me Address: XXX.XXX.0.1
[23:09] <e__> sloantothebone: what do you mean frozen?
[23:09] <Seveas> rio_zenta: hmm, does the gateway respond to pings properly when on dhcp?
[23:09] <rio_zenta> Seveas, yes I tried that. It doesn't give me any "Destination Host Unreachable" errors.
[23:10] <Seveas> e__: those trash directories look good. Can you try again? Maybe fixing the other trash directory was enough.
[23:10] <Seveas> rio_zenta: ok, I'm fairly convinced then that your original hunch was correct and you need to change your routers config to habe a smaller dhcp pool, and maybe even to allow traffic from non-dhcp ip's
[23:11] <rio_zenta> Seveas, thank you for your patience and assistance in helping me with this issue. I really appreciate it.
[23:11] <e__> Seveas: nope, cannot create or delete files despite it saying that e has read/write permissions
[23:12] <Seveas> e__: is it maybe a usb drive that has a physical 'write protect' switch that has been toggled?
[23:13] <e__> Seveas: nope
[23:14] <Seveas> e__: what does this say: mount | grep media
[23:15] <e__> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9182835/
[23:15] <x_root> kll, still nothing =/
[23:15] <Seveas> e__: and this: touch /media/e/46FD-94BA/testfile
[23:16] <k1l> x_root: please show the errors in a paste
[23:17] <e__> Seveas: it won't let me, says it is read only
[23:18] <e__> which is weird, because last week I could read and write to it no problem
[23:18] <Seveas> e__: hmm, the only way I could see that happening is if there are filesystem errors. Does anything useful appear in the output of dmesg? Does sudo fsck -N /dev/sdd1 say anything useful?
[23:18]  * e__ scratches head confused
[23:19] <e__> Seveas: [/sbin/fsck.vfat (1) -- /dev/sdd1] fsck.vfat /dev/sdd1
[23:24] <yamasa> I used to date a guy name "Ubuntu"  ... he would "play the bongos" on my ass right after fucking me up the ass.
[23:24] <yamasa> I used to date a guy name "Ubuntu"  ... he would "play the bongos" on my ass right after fucking me up the ass..
[23:24] <yamasa> I used to date a guy name "Ubuntu"  ... he would "play the bongos" on my ass right after fucking me up the ass...
[23:24] <yamasa> I used to date a guy name "Ubuntu"  ... he would "play the bongos" on my ass right after fucking me up the ass....
[23:24] <yamasa> I used to date a guy name "Ubuntu"  ... he would "play the bongos" on my ass right after fucking me up the ass.....
[23:24] <yamasa> I used to date a guy name "Ubuntu"  ... he would "play the bongos" on my ass right after fucking me up the ass......
[23:24] <unopaste> yamasa you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:27] <mirak> hello
[23:27] <mirak> I have huge issues with the nvidia 9400.
[23:27] <mirak> no distribution after quantal can make work the 9400 gpu
[23:27] <x_root> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9182996/
[23:28] <mirak> it always freezes at some point, with nouveau or nvidia drivers
[23:28] <owen1> hibernation not working. i tried updating logind.conf and com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla but it didn't help. how to troubleshoot this? (i am on a new carbon x1, 2nd gen)
[23:28] <x_root> i tried to translate, so maybe is not exactly that message the one found on ubuntu-en
[23:28] <Seveas> owen1: ubuntu boots so fast these days, why bother with hibernate? It's much slower to wake up from hibernate than a fresh boot
[23:29] <x_root> also.. a typo (broken*, lol) sorry
[23:29] <owen1> Seveas: true, but i use tmux and it's nice to have all my tmux sessions right where i left them
[23:31] <liza> This is a test
[23:31] <liza> is anybody here?
[23:31] <Seveas> liza: no.
[23:32] <liza> who is here?
[23:33] <Prezident> You for sure are stoned..
[23:34] <k1l> x_root: you seem to have still packages not from the original install
[23:34] <x_root> what should i do to remove it?
[23:34] <Seveas> Prezident: if only :)
[23:35] <k1l> x_root: are you sure you used the "ppa-purge" command? can you list a "apt-cache policy gnome-shell"?
[23:35] <x_root> let me check k1l
[23:35] <nszceta> does anybody else have issues with bridge-utils
[23:35] <x_root> maybe the problem is, the computer turned into a "locked" status while i did the ppa-purge..
[23:36] <k1l> x_root: :X that is a heavy issue. please inform more about that situation
[23:36] <Seveas> !anybody | nszceta
[23:36] <x_root> when i tried to log back in through the lock screen, it keeps "entering" the data by itself.. so i did a sudo reboot (since worked..)
[23:36] <Seveas> meh, they killed that factoid too?
[23:37] <oniongirl> Hello everyone :)
[23:37] <Tommmmy> hi
[23:37] <nebuchs> where is my god now? http://pastie.org/9737418
[23:37] <Seveas> nszceta: "does anybody..." is a rubbish question, ask your actual question please :)
[23:37] <Seveas> nebuchs: in the crappy PPA you use :)
[23:38] <k1l> nebuchs: your god is gone since you use 3rd party packages :)
[23:38] <Tommmmy> hi k1|
[23:38] <nebuchs> Seveas, i know i added that ppa for mono, how can i fix these? is this possible?
[23:39] <Seveas> nebuchs: ppa-purge is your friend
[23:39] <nszceta> libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:557 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.16.0-23-generic/modules.dep.bin'
[23:39] <nszceta> modinfo: ERROR: Module alias bridge not found.
[23:39] <nszceta> ^ output of `modinfo bridge`
[23:39] <x_root> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9183204/
[23:40] <k1l> x_root: and for libmutter0c?
[23:40] <nszceta> I am not able to run "sudo brctl addbr br0"
[23:41] <oniongirl> CAn someone please help me? I've tried everything to fix this problem. I have an external HD that I used with an old Macbook. I sold the macbook but before I did I disabled Journalism so I could use it on Linux. I can read the drive now but I cannot write to it. I've tried just about everything... I've read about everything. My main HD dosen't have much space so I need to use it for backups and stuff. can someone please help me make t
[23:41] <oniongirl> his R/W?
[23:41] <x_root> k1l, just tried to install and the problem is related to mutter-common
[23:42] <x_root> (libmutter0c is 'fine', points to the same version, 3.10.4)
[23:42] <k1l> x_root: ok, then try mutter-common and so on and so on to find the last package that is causing this
[23:42] <x_root> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9183252/
[23:43] <k1l> x_root: there you go.
[23:43] <k1l> x_root: its the elementary PPA that is making issues.
[23:43] <daftykins> oniongirl: it's not advisable to use HFS under Linux in write mode at all, so i'm afraid it's simply unwise. you'd be better off buying another drive
[23:43] <x_root> hm.. ppa-purge in it can solve?
[23:44] <k1l> x_root: yes. this will remove all the packages from that PPA and have you a clean version again
[23:44] <x_root> hm.. let me try
[23:44] <x_root> thanks k1l :)
[23:47] <paulzz> Is there a way to use packages from a newer Ubuntu version? Is that supported?
[23:48] <daftykins> very unwise
[23:48] <teward> paulzz: depends on the package - a lot of times though it's unwise
[23:48] <k1l> paulzz: no, that will make trouble
[23:48] <paulzz> what problems will it cause, breaking other apps?
[23:48] <Seveas> paulzz: at minimum, you should use the source and rebuild instead of using the binary package
[23:49] <Seveas> and yes, unexpected breakages can happen. What are you trying to use?
[23:49] <paulzz> why rebuild? so long as the libc versions are equal it should work (?)
[23:49] <paulzz> newer gcc, boost and libogre
[23:49] <Seveas> ohh hell no
[23:49] <paulzz> I'm not too bothered if it breaks other things in the system
[23:49] <Seveas> that has all kinds of breakage potential
[23:49] <paulzz> this is just for a build VM
[23:49] <teward> paulzz: by 'break' you'll break everything
[23:49] <teward> paulzz: why not use a newer release
[23:49] <teward> (for the VM)
[23:50] <paulzz> the VM provider only allows Ubuntu 12.04 server
[23:50] <Seveas> then get a better VM provider :)
[23:50] <paulzz> so I'm thinking just hack it by installing the 14.04 packages for the stuff I need
[23:50] <teward> paulzz: um... no
[23:51] <Seveas> for packages like gcc and boost, you'll guarantee that things *will* break in horrible ways. Upgrade.
[23:51] <teward> paulzz: kernel explosions are likely.  software won't run.  you're better off getting a better VM provider
[23:51] <teward> paulzz: alternatively, install the VM, run `do-release-upgrade`, maybe it'll slip past them
[23:51] <teward> paulzz: but if your VM provider ONLY allows Precise, i'd suggest get a new one
[23:52] <paulzz> why would a newer gcc break the kernel
[23:53] <k1l> newer gcc? oh that might break a lot of stuff.
[23:53] <zerolegend> hard to say
[23:53] <zerolegend> unstable stuff is unstable
[23:53] <x_root> it worked k1l, thank you :)
[23:53] <k1l> x_root: :)
[23:53] <nszceta> paulzz: packages from a new ubuntu version should work fine if you also install their dependencies
[23:54] <nszceta> but be careful because must not mismatch kernel modules and kernel versions
[23:54] <nszceta> in general its considered a bad practice because things can get out of hand extremely quickly
[23:54] <Seveas> nszceta: and this is where newer boost will screw things up
[23:54] <Seveas> c++ is finicky enough as is, boost is in a league of specialness all on its own
[23:54] <paulzz> well so long as these 3 packages work I'm ok with 99% of everything else breaking
[23:55] <nszceta> c++ and boost all compile down to libraries
[23:55] <Seveas> nszceta: and boost is a dependency of lots of things. All those things *will* break.
[23:55] <nszceta> I see what you mean
[23:55] <Seveas> there's a reason why gcc and boost are updated exactly once in an ubuntu life cycle: at the start. You'll have to rebuild *everything*
[23:56] <nszceta> I use LXC (linux containers) so I don't really care about my host OS
[23:56] <nszceta> this would be a perfect use case for LXC
[23:56] <paulzz> what is LXC? sounds like something I should look at
[23:56] <Seveas> or docker
[23:56] <nszceta> no
[23:57] <nszceta> docker is for single-application s
[23:57] <nszceta> LXC is a proper container
[23:57] <nszceta> an enhanced chroot with virtualized devices
[23:57] <Seveas> does lxc work on hosts that are also vm's?
[23:57] <Seveas> as paulzz is working on a vm already
[23:57] <nszceta> yes, if your host kernel supports LXC
[23:58] <nszceta> I believe you need kernel 3.3 or newer for LXC 1.x
[23:59] <Seveas> !info linux-generic precise
[23:59] <Seveas> so, bad luck for paulzz :)
[23:59] <nszceta> oh man
[23:59] <paulzz> bah