| dylan | Can anyone help me? | 00:07 |
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| frenchguy | Hi i have a problem to restart Xubuntu after the update to 14.10 | 00:08 |
| === mnepton is now known as mneptok | ||
| head|tail | Anyone know of a theme with no side borders? It's something I like from oxygen | 05:29 |
| holstein | http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=123744 might be what you want.. though, i havent tried it | 05:30 |
| head|tail | hmm will try... Who's idea was it to set the highlight color to pink, unicorns are silver, fur/horn/blood | 05:31 |
| holstein | head|tail: ? | 05:31 |
| head|tail | someone set the theme colour override to pink | 05:32 |
| holstein | head|tail: unicorns are fictional.. | 05:32 |
| head|tail | xfce has not changed much in 3 years, I wonder what it's plans are for the future | 05:39 |
| head|tail | I'm guessing it's jsut sitting back waiting for wayland to mature | 05:39 |
| head|tail | and then there's the matter of gtk vs qt... | 05:39 |
| holstein | its not qt | 05:40 |
| holstein | there is an upstream xfce community | 05:40 |
| head|tail | ah, forgot it's on FN | 05:41 |
| aynrand420 | does anyone use nba.tv | 06:56 |
| aynrand420 | it looks so good on windows but so bad on xubuntu | 06:56 |
| evo | at least it works. most of the time when i try to stream a game, it's streamed in Microsoft Silverlight so i cant watch | 07:00 |
| aynrand420 | dang | 07:03 |
| === RayneSplit is now known as Rayne | ||
| xubuntu937 | hello | 09:09 |
| xubuntu937 | i have some problems installing xubuntu 14.04.1 LTS using my legacy graphics nvidia GeForce 8600GTS. | 09:10 |
| xubuntu937 | Anyone there to help me getting this to resolution 1680x1050 ? | 09:11 |
| avoider | Anyone around for some simple support? | 09:16 |
| avoider | I keep getting a error for the indicator bar on the top right | 09:16 |
| avoider | keeps crashing | 09:16 |
| avoider | out of no where | 09:16 |
| avoider | Running xubuntu 14 | 09:16 |
| avoider | Clean install | 09:16 |
| avoider | its the Plugin Indicator plugin" unexpectedly left the panel, do you want to restart it? | 09:18 |
| avoider | i click excute and it keeps coming back | 09:18 |
| avoider | with that same error | 09:18 |
| elfy | avoider: I've had the same issue off and on - not had any luck with working out what's going on though | 09:29 |
| avoider | erm | 09:32 |
| avoider | I should of stuck to xubuntu 12 | 09:32 |
| avoider | seems like 14 is unstable | 09:32 |
| avoider | even know they say it is etc etc | 09:33 |
| elfy | avoider: well - you and I are the only people that I know of who see this particular issue | 09:37 |
| avoider | Intresting... my mate who is sysadmin etc told me this version of ubuntu is unstable even though it says stable. | 09:38 |
| avoider | And i would have nothing but issues | 09:38 |
| avoider | Im using other peoples wifis so i dont have the bw or the time to download older copy. | 09:39 |
| Meerkat | Can I force the desktop icons in Xubuntu to not move around after I put them where I want them? | 10:15 |
| elfy | Meerkat: I believe that there is a fix in the proposed repository bug 1365965 | 10:22 |
| ubottu | bug 1365965 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu Trusty) "[MRE] Please update xfdesktop4 to 4.11.8 in Trusty" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365965 | 10:22 |
| elfy | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed | 10:22 |
| elfy | disable it after you've upgraded that package | 10:22 |
| onr | is 14.10 worth installing? | 11:05 |
| flux242 | onr: no | 11:05 |
| onr | thanks | 11:06 |
| flux242 | onr: 14.04 lts is the way to go | 11:06 |
| onr | flux242: oh right, 14.04 is LTS | 11:07 |
| onr | no need for pink unicorns | 11:08 |
| artag | i've got another weird one that's only appeared since I put 14.04 on | 11:30 |
| artag | If I plug an arduino in, it shows up as /dev/ttyACM0 as it should | 11:31 |
| artag | I can connect to that with screen, cat it, etc etc | 11:31 |
| artag | all works fine | 11:31 |
| artag | But the arduino app itself (whicj I didn't intentionally upgrade) doesn't seem to see the device | 11:31 |
| artag | it won't do a terminal emulator on it, it won't send programs, and the list of possible serial ports is greyed out | 11:33 |
| artag | yet I can run avrdude (which is what the arduino IDE uses to program) and that works fine | 11:33 |
| artag | I do seem to have a ridiculous number of jre and jdks installed so it may be a java issue | 11:34 |
| Meerkat | elfy, oh wow. that's beautiful! I didn't expect that. :) Will check it out. | 11:37 |
| suncokret | hello | 11:47 |
| suncokret | i have 3 icons in launcher on panel but it show me only 1, how to set to see all icons? | 11:48 |
| onr | you need a launcher for each icon | 11:49 |
| suncokret | now it show only 1 and beside that icon is little triangle and when i go to it then it show me other 2 icons | 11:50 |
| suncokret | so only solution is launcher for each icon? | 11:51 |
| onr | yup | 11:51 |
| suncokret | thanks | 11:51 |
| suncokret | and how i can put icon for network on the panel? | 11:51 |
| onr | you can drag and drop items from main menu to panel and it will create a launcher automatically | 11:51 |
| onr | network icon must be part indicator plugin iirc | 11:52 |
| onr | right click > panel > new item > network monitor | 11:53 |
| avoider | Anyone around yet? | 11:53 |
| suncokret | thanks, i install xfce on lubuntu and i didn't know to do that on panel | 11:54 |
| avoider | Anyone know how to fix the indicator panel issue? | 11:56 |
| avoider | or any ideas for that matter. | 11:58 |
| suncokret | <onr> right click > panel > new item > network monitor | 12:03 |
| suncokret | there is no network monitor | 12:04 |
| avoider | ? | 12:13 |
| suncokret | i can't fint how to disable moving deleted files to recycle bin in thunar | 12:15 |
| avoider | is there no1 here yet for support? | 12:17 |
| mileszero | hi all | 12:24 |
| mileszero | I have one question, when I install in 14.10 Firefox, I always get 33.0, but current is 31.1.1, how can I change this ? | 12:25 |
| koegs | avoider: what do you need to fix? | 12:29 |
| mileszero | sorry, mean 33.1.1 | 12:32 |
| Alexfrench | hello all | 13:21 |
| TokenRingJoe | Are there plans for a 14.10 minimal ISO? | 13:57 |
| cfhowlett | !mini | 13:58 |
| ubottu | The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 13:58 |
| TokenRingJoe | Most recent version on that page is 14.04. Tried going to the release folder as well. No minimal | 14:00 |
| cfhowlett | TokenRingJoe, so I see. IDK. No official word that .mini has been dropped. | 14:01 |
| TokenRingJoe | Thanks. I will see if I can slim down the Desktop version a bit then. | 14:02 |
| Meerkat | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ | 14:09 |
| Meerkat | looks like it is there but no one has updated the ubuntu help wiki. | 14:09 |
| cfhowlett | Meerkat, whoa you dug DEEP to find that! good job. Yeah, someone dropped the ball on the updating wikie | 14:11 |
| Meerkat | not sure if you're being sarcastic, because it wasn't very hard to find. I'm in the progress of figuring out how to edit the page. | 14:12 |
| cfhowlett | Meerkat, 1. no sarcasm 2. truly appreciative. | 14:13 |
| cfhowlett | Meerkat, you'll need to sign in with your launchpad account I believe. Then edit and save. | 14:14 |
| Meerkat | All right, done. Please check to make sure everything is proper. :) | 14:37 |
| cfhowlett | Meerkat, link please? | 14:38 |
| Meerkat | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 14:38 |
| cfhowlett | !cookie | Meerkat, nicely done! | 14:39 |
| ubottu | Meerkat, nicely done!: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 14:39 |
| avoider | Anyone here for some quick support | 14:46 |
| avoider | ? | 14:46 |
| avoider | Here is a picture of the current issue | 14:47 |
| avoider | http://i.imgur.com/TEivVNO.png | 14:47 |
| avoider | seems there is a issue with the indicator plugin | 14:47 |
| elfy | avoider: I assume you're using 14.04 or 14.10 ? | 14:52 |
| avoider | 14.10 | 14:53 |
| elfy | ty for that | 14:54 |
| avoider | yw | 14:54 |
| elfy | I did report it - been marked as a dupe of a private one, that's 15.04 though | 14:56 |
| avoider | So what do i do? | 14:56 |
| flux242 | avoider: this is not 14.10 specific problem because I've seen it before. But I can't remember the solution | 14:57 |
| elfy | avoider: currently I wait for reboot and add it - not got a solution - hope that flux242 remembers :) | 14:58 |
| avoider | so i just have to wait for a update | 14:59 |
| avoider | basically? | 14:59 |
| flux242 | avoider: start it from console, maybe it'l spew some debug output | 14:59 |
| avoider | i dont know how to do that. | 14:59 |
| avoider | farly new too linux on desktop | 14:59 |
| flux242 | avoider: it is basically a plugin for xfce4-plugin. Kill the xfce4-plugin process and start it from the terminal. | 15:06 |
| flux242 | avoider: no, I mean kill xfce4-panel process | 15:06 |
| GridCube | avoider, to do what flux242 is telling you, you need to open a terminal, go to the start button and type "terminal" launch the application there, then run xfce4-panel -r to restart it | 15:07 |
| Meerkat | cfhowlett, I noticed that mini.iso links to outdated ubuntu versions result in 404s. Do you think it is okay to delete those entries? | 15:14 |
| Meerkat | regarding https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 15:15 |
| cfhowlett | Meerkat, as no one has taken the initiative to correct, no one will complain. go wild. | 15:15 |
| avoider | flux242: | 15:19 |
| avoider | after i did that it forced me to reboot and when i logged back in | 15:19 |
| avoider | i got a error msg | 15:19 |
| avoider | came up with a popup | 15:19 |
| flux242 | avoider: what did you do? killin a process should not result in rebooting | 15:19 |
| avoider | Sorry , Ubuntu 14.04 has experience an internal error | 15:20 |
| avoider | but wont let me copy/ paste the details | 15:20 |
| avoider | Do you think i should just re install ubuntu? | 15:21 |
| flux242 | you mean ubuntu instead of xubuntu? | 15:23 |
| avoider | no i mean | 15:23 |
| avoider | xubuntu | 15:23 |
| avoider | like install a brand new copy | 15:23 |
| flux242 | well reinstalling always is an option | 15:24 |
| avoider | i just noticed it was 14.04 anyway | 15:25 |
| avoider | so im just downloading 14.10 | 15:25 |
| avoider | I didnt have anything much to backup anyways ... but a background.. | 15:26 |
| avoider | im just really hopeing this dont happen | 15:26 |
| flux242 | avoider: no, 14.04 is fine! | 15:26 |
| avoider | Yeah but 14.10 is latest | 15:26 |
| flux242 | 14.04 is LTS | 15:27 |
| avoider | Sorry what does LTS mean? | 15:27 |
| flux242 | !lts | 15:27 |
| ubottu | LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Xubuntu will be supported for 3 years. The current LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) | 15:27 |
| avoider | so 14.10 wont be supported for long ? | 15:28 |
| xangua | 9 months | 15:28 |
| cfhowlett | avoider, in many ways 14.10 - bleeding/bloody edge. it's great if you have a high tolerance for breaking and fixing your system. LTS is less bleeding edge AND has 3 years of support. non-LTS - 9 months. | 15:29 |
| avoider | so its best i download 14.04 | 15:29 |
| avoider | ? | 15:29 |
| avoider | for every day use | 15:29 |
| GridCube | if you want, for me its the same | 15:29 |
| cfhowlett | avoider, up to you. I find LTS only is WAY less painful | 15:29 |
| avoider | ok ill do that | 15:30 |
| GridCube | but i understand what im doing 43% of the time | 15:30 |
| avoider | I just don't want to get thos errors again | 15:30 |
| cfhowlett | avoider, I update every 2 years. for me = great! for others ... maybe not. | 15:30 |
| avoider | I thought it was because it was older verson | 15:30 |
| cfhowlett | avoider, actually NEWER versions are more prone to breakage. | 15:30 |
| cfhowlett | avoider, if you go with trusty 14.04.1 is the latest. | 15:32 |
| flux242 | avoider: have you upgraded the system after installation? | 15:32 |
| avoider | yeah im downloading now in trasnsmisson | 15:32 |
| avoider | Do you think its going to fix thos errors? | 15:32 |
| === _ben_lowery|afk is now known as _ben_lowery | ||
| avoider | Its just werid i had them because i didnt mod or edit anything. | 15:33 |
| avoider | This was already a fresh install | 15:33 |
| flux242 | avoider: don't upgrade right after installation! Play with the system to check if everything is ok, then upgrade | 15:33 |
| avoider | You mean when it asks you to upgrade after you install ? | 15:34 |
| flux242 | yeah | 15:34 |
| avoider | Then if everything works for a day or two then do the upgrade you saying? | 15:35 |
| avoider | Ill be back after i reinstall guys... | 15:36 |
| wildforruss | Hi, I just installed 14.04 on my machine, and the dvd drive wont work vlc, keeps giving a demux error. When i run it from terminal, the drive shows up undr xfburn, but it wont detect blank disk or play a dvd, ir will however read a data-cd | 16:17 |
| deshipu | !dvd | wildforruss | 16:19 |
| ubottu | wildforruss: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 16:19 |
| wildforruss | Yes that information was observed and followed. | 16:22 |
| deshipu | then no other ideas | 16:24 |
| Alexfrench | http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html | 16:25 |
| wildforruss | Well playback isnt so much important as burning my homemade videos | 16:26 |
| holstein | wildforruss: i would test that the device is functioning properly.. i had a suse install from years ago that i percieved couldnt play or write or read DVD's.. but, after testing for literally hours/days, i found the hardware (the optical drive) was bad, and would only read cd's.. | 16:29 |
| wildforruss | Hmm, good point. | 16:31 |
| wildforruss | try it in another system* | 16:34 |
| wildforruss | close | 16:34 |
| wildforruss | exit | 16:35 |
| Ad1 | hi, does anyone tried new Xubuntu 14.10? | 20:45 |
| Ad1 | it haven't got any problems with stability or programs compatibility? | 20:46 |
| knome | Ad1, what's the real question? | 20:46 |
| knome | depends on your hardware, but no, shouldn't be too different from 14.04 | 20:46 |
| Ad1 | hmm... i have TV card, and it doesn't work on live cd | 20:47 |
| Ad1 | xubu14.10 | 20:47 |
| knome | does it work on 14.04? | 20:47 |
| Ad1 | it was working on 14.04, but few days ago it stoped | 20:48 |
| knome | sounds like an update to hardware-related packages | 20:48 |
| Ad1 | i think with some upgrade | 20:48 |
| Ad1 | yeah, i think so | 20:48 |
| knome | do you have any idea which update might have caused it? | 20:49 |
| Ad1 | is there any option to lock old driver? | 20:49 |
| Ad1 | no, i don't watch TV everyday | 20:49 |
| knome | if you can pinpoint the package and its failing package version, theoretically yes | 20:49 |
| knome | though the better option would be to report that to the package maintainer and get this regerssion fixed there | 20:50 |
| Ad1 | how can I report it? :D | 20:50 |
| knome | well... in terminal ubuntu-bug packagename | 20:51 |
| knome | but you'd have to know what's causing it breaking first | 20:51 |
| Ad1 | well, it's difficult to check it | 20:51 |
| knome | i understand | 20:52 |
| Ad1 | i think it could be problem with some drivers package, maybe the modprobe saa7134 | 20:52 |
| knome | one option is to browse through /var/log/apt/history.log | 20:52 |
| Ad1 | my TV Card is Medion Creatix CTX948 | 20:53 |
| knome | sorry, i don't know the hardware or anyting related to it | 20:53 |
| Ad1 | now i can't check it, cause i'm running livecd, and old system is destroyed by formating hdd :D | 20:53 |
| knome | right | 20:54 |
| knome | maybe you should install 14.04 | 20:54 |
| knome | and try to see at which point the card stops working with the updates | 20:54 |
| knome | to try to pinpoint the problematic update/package | 20:54 |
| knome | keep other updates/installations at minimum | 20:55 |
| Ad1 | well, I was reinstalling my system few tims | 20:55 |
| Ad1 | times* | 20:56 |
| Ad1 | once 14.10, once 14.04, and my TV Card don't work :/ | 20:56 |
| Ad1 | i guess it could be a problem with config files, because when i was reinstalling Xubuntu, I wasn't format my /home partition | 20:58 |
| Ad1 | but just map it to /home | 20:58 |
| Ad1 | with all my data and config | 20:58 |
| Ad1 | now i've copied all my data from my home directory to other disk, and format those partitions: /, /boot, /home | 20:59 |
| Ad1 | i don't know how it works on livecd with devices like TV Card, but I'm afraid it still could not work | 21:00 |
| Ad1 | if it will work fine, then I will install Xubu14.10, otherway 14.04 | 21:02 |
| Ad1 | maybe my tv card is damaged? hmm... | 21:15 |
| xubuntu26w | In the panel items shud it be one or two indicator plugins (external) ? | 21:48 |
| xubuntu18i | A new user is on the go | 22:59 |
| fhenning09 | anyone kno low resourse dock 4 xfce? | 23:29 |
| fhenning09 | know | 23:29 |
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