[00:27]  * ianorlin has an idea that he launched xterm as root with sudo or something to break it
[05:20]  * ianorlin is trying to test vivid and update packages but I have been getting 404 on apt-get update for the past two days
[05:20] <ianorlin> is there a way to change mirror to try to debug
[05:20] <ianorlin> this only happens on vivid
[06:35] <Unit193> ianorlin: What's your sources.list look like?  Generally use us.archive.ubuntu.com, though mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/US.txt might be great for you too.
[08:14] <jf21> hello everybody ! I just have a question of newbie : how to get the update notification and not a window minimized ?
[08:26] <silverlion> jf21 frankly I'm not quite sure if I get the question right. Can you rephrase?
[08:27] <jf21> Sorry for my english, I'm french ! ;-)    I'd just like to have an indicator near the clock to notify an update of the system.
[08:29] <silverlion> that's something you set in your update-manager (don't know the correct name)
[08:29] <silverlion> but in lubuntu there is no "icon" that's indicating an update like you are used from windows
[08:29] <silverlion> the notifications are done with little windows in the upper right corner
[08:30] <silverlion> the only distro that does indicate an update with an icon is - as far as I know - unity
[08:31] <jf21> OK, Thaks a lot ! I just saw a new window opened. With Mint, there is an icon (Mate or Cinnamon)
[09:52] <km4x> hi, can i have windows 8.1 and lubuntu ? i install first lubuntu and then install win8.1 and i cant swap my system in start
[09:53] <silverlion> km4x : you need to do it exactly the other way round
[09:53] <silverlion> install 8.1 first, leave space for your lubuntu and then install lubuntu
[09:53] <silverlion> that works for me with win7 and 14.04
[09:55] <km4x> hm no other way :> ?
[09:55] <silverlion> nope
[09:55] <silverlion> because if you install lubuntu before windows the masterboot record of windows will override the grup which is needed for switching between the systems
[09:55] <km4x> ok then i try this
[09:56] <silverlion> I'll be around for a bit ^^
[09:56] <silverlion> so if there's questions just ask
[09:57] <km4x> maybe i can reinstall lubuntu now and its works ?
[09:58] <silverlion> km4x : you can try but I'd suggest to start over from scratch to erase the masterboot record
[15:34] <janolap1> Hi there, I have installed Lubuntu but I don't have sound in firefox. wxl helped me, the sound was activated but today, no more sound...
[15:35] <wxl> janolap1: what did we do beofre?
[15:36] <janolap1> Note that to have my sound sytem working, I had to add the line : options snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=1 in the  /etc/modprob.d/alsa-base.conf
[15:36] <wxl> janolap1: is that line still there?
[15:37] <janolap1> wxl : Yes
[15:38] <janolap1> but I don't know wich card is used with alsa : C-Media CMI8738 or intel ICH7
[15:38] <wxl> janolap1: most likely the intel
[15:40] <janolap1> wxl : by default, in alsamixer, the C-Media is used.
[15:40] <wxl> aye
[15:40] <wxl> so you've got a couple solutions:
[15:40] <wxl> but before i get to that
[15:41] <wxl> maybe we could figure out how to get the c-media working?
[15:41] <janolap1> wxl : Last time, I don't remember to have changed this value...
[15:41] <wxl> or is there some other problem with it?
[15:41] <janolap1> the c-media was working
[15:41] <wxl> hm
[15:41] <wxl> curious
[15:42] <wxl> `lspci -vvnn` will give you lots of information on all your pci devices, including your sound cards. pastebin that up, please.
[15:43] <janolap1> This is : http://pastebin.com/PV22LNrc
[15:44] <wxl> well it's definitely using a different driver: sndcmipci so that setting should have no affect on it
[15:44] <wxl> curious that there's two entries
[15:45] <wxl> oh well it probably makes some kind of sense :)
[15:45] <janolap1> In Alsa mixer, there is 3 card : 2 C-Media CM8738 and one Intel ICH7
[15:45] <wxl> in any case your device id is 13f6:0111
[15:45] <janolap1> hummm
[15:46] <janolap1> I post something like that on the lubuntu list... can't remember...
[15:48] <janolap1> but no trace of this post in the mailing list. May be I did a mistake...
[15:49] <janolap1> wxl : ok, that's the good device id. I used the page : https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=43564 to solve my issue.
[15:49] <wxl> the old one you mean janolap1
[15:50] <janolap1> wxl : yes, the old one (2 days ago). and now, I try a youtube video, and no sound...
[15:50] <janolap1> The only thing I have tried between is the 0ad game...
[15:50] <wxl> well i guess you can toggle the thing in alsamixer
[15:51] <wxl> the ich7 still works, right?
[15:51] <janolap1> I have never tried the ich7
[15:51] <wxl> just switch it in alsamixer
[15:52] <wxl> i can assure you that the fix you did is for the ich7
[15:52] <janolap1> ok, I choose via F6 the intel ICH7 ?
[15:52] <wxl> yep
[15:52] <janolap1> ok, done.
[15:53] <janolap1> I'm on the "play" view
[15:54] <janolap1> Everything is MM
[15:55] <janolap1> I have Master, Master Mono, HeadPhone Jack S, PCM, Line, Line Jack Sense, CD, Mic, Mic Boost (+20db), Mic Select, Phone, Aux, Mono Output Select, External Amplifi, Stereo Mic.
[15:56] <wxl> if everything is MM that's what you want
[15:57] <janolap1> The volume is set to 100 for all vumeters (Master, Master Mono, PCM, Line, CD, Mic, Phone, Aux)
[16:04] <janolap1> wxl : I really don't know what's going wrong...
[16:04] <wxl> janolap1: you still have no sound even though you've chosen the ich7?
[16:04] <wxl> ?
[16:05] <janolap1> wxl : no sound...
[16:05] <wxl> weird
[16:05] <wxl> try it with both of the other two
[16:05] <janolap1> May be should I restart Firefox...
[16:05] <wxl> might help
[16:05] <wxl> i've found firefox to not be very good with changes
[16:05] <wxl> you can test sound on the command line
[16:06] <janolap1> wxl : So I have to leave this IRC (chatzilla)
[16:06] <wxl> aplay some-file
[16:06] <wxl> i'll be here
[16:06] <janolap1> ok
[16:10] <janolap1> wxl : no soudn even after restarting firefox. I'm searching a wav to play with aplay. Do you know where I can find one ?
[16:10] <wxl> janolap1: archive.org
[16:11] <janolap1> wxl : Ok I've found one.
[16:12] <janolap1> wxl : no sound...
[16:12] <janolap1> even with aplay.
[16:12] <wxl> janolap1: with all three cards?
[16:12] <janolap1> trying the other ones
[16:15] <janolap1> wxl : no sound for the 3 cards
[16:15] <janolap1> :-(
[16:15] <wxl> that's bizarre
[16:15] <wxl> i'm a wee bit stumped by that
[16:16] <wxl> i might give you the advice i avoid like the plague: install pulseaudio
[16:16] <wxl> if it does nothing, then remove it, but it often magically resolves tricky audio problems
[16:16] <janolap1> wxl : I've installed with synaptic 0ad. Could it install other packages that make problems ?
[16:17] <janolap1> 0ad, the game
[16:17] <wxl> !info 0ad
[16:17] <wxl> huh i can't imagine any package would cause problmes
[16:17] <janolap1> I don't know but it installed things...
[16:17] <wxl> everything installs things :)
[16:17] <janolap1> :-)
[16:18] <janolap1> ok, let's install pulseaudio
[16:19] <janolap1> wxl : sudo apt-get install pulseaudio ?
[16:20] <janolap1> wxl : pulseaudio installed !
[16:21] <janolap1> then ?
[16:21] <wxl> see what happens :)
[16:22] <janolap1> no sound with aplay
[16:22] <wxl> maybe a reboot is necessary
[16:22] <wxl> sorry i don't use pulseaudio
[16:22] <janolap1> wxl : Ok see ya
[16:23] <wxl> k
[16:27] <janolap1> wxl : when the xfce comes up, the volume panel shwoed me the sound was muetted. and after unmetting it, it's working !!!
[16:27] <janolap1> unmuting
[16:27] <wxl> yay
[16:28] <janolap1> wxl : but I don't understand why... working a time and after. was it muted but not shown in alsamixer ?
[16:28] <wxl> perhaps
[16:28] <janolap1> ok, thanx !
[16:45] <User_7326107> Hello, I have a noob-question for which I didn't want to open a thread. Maybe someone here has a quick answer.
[16:45] <wxl> !ask | User_7326107
[16:48] <User_7326107> I'm trying Lubuntu on a Dell Studio 1555 and in the TryLubuntu environment the WIFI does not work. It is not available among the networks. I connected the laptop with a cable and checked for additional drivers. A broadcom proprietary driver came up which it refused to apply. Is this because I'm running in the TryLubuntu environment? I was using a live-USB including reserved space for storage.
[16:48] <wxl> lspci | grep 4e14
[16:49] <wxl> give me the results fo that in a pastebin
[16:50] <wxl> oops that's 4e4 :)
[17:14] <User_22801> wxl: lspci | grep 4e4 doesn't result in anything. Do you need to see the whole list I get from lspci?
[17:24] <wxl> User_22801: yep
[17:48] <User_22801> wxl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9199669/
[17:58] <wxl> User_22801: do it again with lspci -vvnn please
[18:00] <User_22801> wxl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9199851/
[18:01] <wxl> there it is
[18:01] <wxl> so you have a bcm device 14e4:1698
[18:01] <wxl> it's using the tg3 kernel driver which is weird
[18:01] <wxl> !bcm43
[18:02] <wxl> !bcm
[18:02] <wxl> that's what i wanted
[18:02] <wxl> bcm5784m
[18:02] <wxl> that's a new one on me
[18:05] <wxl> oh
[18:05] <wxl> derp
[18:05] <wxl> sorry it's still the morning here User_22801
[18:06] <wxl> that link is totally applicable to you
[18:06] <wxl> you have a 14e4:4315 bcm4312 which is using b43-pci-bridge
[18:06] <wxl> you can use the regular b43 driver
[18:07] <wxl> do `sudo apt-get -y install firmware-b43-installer`
[18:07] <wxl> then you can restart or:
[18:07] <User_22801> Will installing this work from the TryLubuntu environment?
[18:07] <wxl> yep
[18:07] <wxl> then to load the new drivers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Switching_between_drivers
[18:08] <User_22801> ok, will try this. Thanks a lot, wxl!
[18:09] <wxl> np User_22801
[19:15] <JmiXIII> Hi
[19:16] <holstein> o/
[22:59] <akiva-thinkpad> wxl, ping
[23:19] <akiva-thinkpad> and I diconnected
[23:19] <akiva-thinkpad> disconnected*
[23:21] <wxl> hey akiva-thinkpad just about to head out unfortunately