[09:47] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:58] <Mikaela> hi
[09:58] <elfy> morning lordievader Mikaela
[10:00] <lordievader> Hey Mikaela, elfy. How are you doing?
[10:01] <elfy> all good here thanks - you?
[10:01] <lordievader> Doing good too :)
[10:02] <lordievader> Finally made the effort of setting up a binhost for my gentoo installs :D
[10:02] <Mikaela> I am trying to ask how do I report to KVIrc bug tracker and being harassed, and you?
[10:03] <lordievader> Mikaela: Hmm, that ain't nice... People should encourage bug reporting.
[10:04] <Mikaela> I don't personally use it, but I have friends using it and they are having issues with SASL, because KVIrc apparently only supports DH-BLOWFISH that was dropped in new ATheme that is in 7 networks including freenode testnet and will be come to freenode too.
[12:13] <Mikaela> lordievader: elfy: https://zero.mikaela.info/?9af805c231e0fac8#8azg97D1K+S2ybDvkhTXEd+Mi9KMb+mn9yGAxkQ7kkQ= & https://zero.mikaela.info/?3cce165843089510#FAWwrUKMp0AwWldKtNoqtMGMsttJGf02hkemNBufDhY=
[12:13] <Mikaela> not very encouraging to try to help them next time
[12:16] <lordievader> Now ain't that lovely :P
[12:17] <elfy> :|
[12:19] <elfy> I'll guess it's not an ubuntu channel then
[12:30] <Mikaela> it was #kvirc, if that happened at Ubuntu channel, action would probably be took in less than 10 minutes
[12:31] <elfy> yep
[12:32] <k1l_> if you encouter issues on #ubuntu channel you are free to talk to the operators on #ubuntu-ops
[12:32] <elfy> and #freenode if it's not *buntu but on freenode somewhere
[12:33] <elfy> doesn't stop it feeling crap at the time - might make it better in future for someone else
[12:34] <Mikaela> usually ubuntu channels have bot for ! ops and usually channel ops highlight to it anyway. #freenode is nowadays only telling to contact channel's own ops.
[12:36] <elfy> oh - didn't know that
[12:37] <Mikaela> I am mostly idling there and if I have understood correctly, #ubuntu-ops doesn't want people who aren't ops idling there.
[12:38] <k1l_> Mikaela: yes, its a team channel and only team members should idle there. users can join there when they have issues.
[12:38] <Mikaela> ok
[12:40] <k1l_> and we have #ubuntu-offtopic for the chitchat :) this is a unstable release support channel
[12:40] <Mikaela> but this is nicer channel than -offtopic :(
[12:41] <elfy> yes we know - and when people need support any offtopic chat stops
[12:43] <k1l_> that is not what the guidelines advice :/  you could contribute to -offtopic to make it a nicer channel
[13:10] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning all
[15:08] <teward> is 15.04 going to transition to systemd at some point?
[15:08] <elfy> that was the word - whether there'll be a new word I don't know
[15:11] <teward> elfy: is there a mailing list entry somewhere?
[15:11] <teward> elfy: that's what i heard last as well, but as I don't have all my emails in front of me I'm curious where that announcement ended up
[15:12] <elfy> just seen it on a blog is all - nothing on -dev nor -release mailing lists that I've seen
[15:13] <elfy> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22401/systemd-transition/
[15:13] <elfy> possibly find more in there
[15:14] <elfy> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-systemd-transition
[15:16] <BluesKaj_> teward, I heard rumours that systemd would default on 15.10
[15:28] <teward> BluesKaj_: yeah, i heard rumors the transition was going to start in 15.04, and i heard the 15.10 rumors as well
[15:28] <teward> isn't transition partly dependent on Debian's transition?
[15:30] <BluesKaj_> yes teward, most likely, but not a sure thing i think
[15:30] <teward> BluesKaj_: right, that's what I thought
[15:32] <BluesKaj_> since Mr Shuttleworth seems to be transistioning ubuntu to a more independent OS ..who knows how far he's taking it
[15:32]  * teward shrugs
[15:33] <BluesKaj_> yeah well I'm sticking with Kubuntu
[21:01] <BluesKaj> Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch