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ChrisPScott, should I go and give it a try building 0.98.5 for 14.04.LTS01:28
ScottKChrisP: Yes.  Go for it.03:01
ChrisPJust one probably important question Scott, will it have the .deb extension?03:48
ChrisPShould say is it correct to have the .deb extension? I ran the example as per the pbuilder link you sent and it appears to have worked correctly03:50
jrwrenjak3000: you get those iptables rules sorted?04:15
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lordievaderGood morning.09:47
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rbasakScottK: sorry, I didn't have my away status set. I don't see ChrisP online right now. I'm not going to be in much over the next two weeks - on holiday, then moving house, swap days from the Canonical sprint I've just come back from, etc.12:07
rbasakBut I'd be happy to work with ChrisP on this channel or joining Hangouts etc to train more people up for server packaging when I'm back.12:07
lnxmenWould I ask about creating virtual host in Apache2?13:08
lnxmenI followed this tutorial - https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts13:09
lnxmenBut step 7 gives me "Host not found".13:09
lordievaderlnxmen: In step 6 is it pointing to an existing ip address?13:22
lnxmenYes.13:22
lnxmenThis address in web browser redirects me to /var/www/html/index.html13:22
lnxmenIf default host is enabled.13:22
lordievaderlnxmen: What is the output of 'host <vhost>'?13:23
lnxmenHost example.com not found: 2(SERVFAIL)13:24
lordievaderlnxmen: Could you pastebin your /etc/hosts file?13:26
nunizacuops i hit 40413:27
lnxmen1I had delay in internet access. Did you write anything?13:28
lordievaderlnxmen: Could you pastebin your /etc/hosts file?13:29
lnxmen1surely13:29
lnxmen1here you are: http://pastebin.com/QhCeZLCi13:30
lordievaderlnxmen1: There is no example.com in there?13:31
lnxmen1Host plikoshare.com not found: 2(SERVFAIL)13:32
lnxmen1It should be.13:32
nunizacucouse it is not on any dns server13:32
nunizacu/etc/host is local13:32
lnxmen1So then, why OVH control panel shows appropiate preview od domain?13:33
lordievaderHmm, I thought host did check /etc/hosts...13:33
nunizacudid you register plikohare.com domain ?13:34
lnxmen1yes13:34
lnxmen1It's already in my OVH control panel.13:34
lnxmen1I may change anything I want.13:34
lnxmen1But preview is quite good.13:34
nunizacuwierd, dig shows no soa record13:34
nunizacuno A record13:34
lnxmen1It shows html file I created while following the tutorial13:34
nunizacuwait a second13:35
lordievaderI don't think this is a "real" domain...13:35
nunizacuseams it is registered13:36
lordievaderWhy else would it be defined in /etc/hosts...13:36
lnxmen1I do not know.13:36
nunizacuwait wait i check it in few more ways13:36
lnxmen1I added these lines.13:36
lnxmen1(as it's shown in tutorial)13:36
nunizacuthey arent needed for anything13:37
nunizacumaybe for shortcuts or internal networking13:37
lordievaderlnxmen1: Did you reboot after adding the line to /etc/hosts? It might be that it is loaded once at boot.13:37
lnxmen1No.13:37
lordievadernunizacu: It's there for testing the vhost.13:37
nunizacufor domains you need registered domain and dns server with proper records13:38
lnxmen1I have registered domain.13:38
lordievadernunizacu: For testing purposes /etc/hosts is just fine.13:38
lnxmen1DNS server provides OVH, I think.13:38
nunizacuhow much time ago?13:38
lnxmen1about 2 days.13:39
nunizacuwell, i check it on many many dns servers and none sees it, ill check registration13:39
nunizacuyou shure its plikoshare.com ?13:39
nunizacuno typo?13:40
lnxmen1Absolutely.13:40
lnxmen1plikoshare.com // copied from OVH panel.13:40
nunizacuif dns around the world doesnt see soa record it wont work13:40
lnxmen1What should I do, then?13:40
lnxmen1I may add, that it worked yesterday.13:40
lnxmen1But I reinstalled server to Ubuntu 14.1013:41
nunizacuwell for me it looks like dns problem13:41
lnxmen1But reinstalling server should not affect dns...13:41
nunizacudomain IS registered thats for sure ill check ns servers13:41
lnxmen1Do you want dns entries?13:42
nunizacurather dns server names13:42
nunizacuand check if domain is pointed to those dns13:42
lnxmen1NS entries?13:42
nunizacuNS enteries means what dns servers has info about domain13:43
lnxmen1DNS management: vps116055.ovh.net , sdns2.ovh.net13:43
lnxmen1Both are active.13:43
nunizacuthis dns doesnt heard of your domain13:45
lnxmen1Is it a matter of time? Or I did something wrong?13:45
nunizaculooks like your domain points do dns that have no idea of your domain13:46
nunizacuwait a second13:46
lnxmen1Really strange, because it had idea yesterday.13:46
nunizacuthis is vps or dedicated?13:47
lnxmen1vps13:48
lnxmen1I found something.13:48
lnxmen1DNS server is not supported by OVH.13:48
lnxmen1That's a message I can see.13:49
nunizacuwell i just foud out you should use different dns13:49
nunizacuthose dns u use are for dedicated servers13:49
lnxmen1So, what DNS should I add?13:50
lnxmen1http://imgur.com/I4ZfveE13:50
nunizacuproper dns are ns108.ovh.net and dns108.ovh.net13:51
nunizacufor vps13:51
nunizacuu use dns for dedicated server13:51
lnxmen1Okay, it was added by OVH.13:51
lnxmen1I did not change it before.13:52
nunizacuwierd thing13:52
nunizacui dont use ovh so i can only be so much helpful13:52
lnxmen1I am immensely grateful. Thank you.13:53
nunizacuwell problem is your domain doesnt point to any dns and have no soa record13:53
nunizacubut if it has wrong dns provided it wont have it13:54
lnxmen1If I have NS records, so DNS servers should not be the same?13:54
lnxmen1ns110.ovh.net. and dns110.ovh.net.13:54
lnxmen1You provided 108 *13:54
nunizacuovh site states 108 is proper dns for vps13:55
nunizacuns108 and dns10813:55
lnxmen1Yes, I added them in DNS management.13:55
nunizacufirst clean up dns management13:56
nunizacuor use some sane dns service like cloudns13:56
nunizacui have reaally lot of entries there, they probide much geolocated dns server, are fast and cheap13:57
lnxmen1DNS Management operations are pending.13:58
lnxmen1It's not my choice what DNS server should I use.13:58
nunizacuwell, someone is point a gun at you and say use ovh dns for your domain?13:59
nunizacui had ovh servers and never use their dns and never bought domain from them13:59
nunizacuyou can buy cheper and for the rest buy better dns service13:59
nunizacubtw for file hosting you should rather look for hosting not vps14:00
lnxmen1Next time I won't do the same mistake.14:00
lnxmen1I know. It's testing site.14:00
nunizacusomthing with lot of space and bandwidth14:00
nunizacunot to mention they are cheaper14:01
nunizacui got plenty of TB of storage and this is not even close for serious file hosting14:02
lnxmen1As I said, it's only testing site.14:03
lnxmen1Design, user space...14:03
lnxmen17 GB free space. ^14:03
nunizacueven thou i have servers in england, poland, germany, sinapore, rpa, germany, lithuania, vietnam, japan14:03
nunizacuoh and china14:03
lnxmen1"Welcome to ClouDNS!", let's see.14:04
nunizacuits very googd service14:04
nunizacuit has problem with unusual domains but so i have to run my own secondary for those, but anyway i never had any problem with it14:05
lnxmen1Is there support for PayPal?14:05
nunizacui dont remember, i think i used credit card14:05
nunizacubut for one site free service should be enough14:06
nunizacui think free serveice has 10 zone or entries limit or someting14:06
nunizacuenoguth for fileshare.com and www.fileshare.com14:07
nunizacubut for serious hosting look for something other than vps, those arent meant for hosting14:07
nunizacuunless you run torrent or rsync server14:07
lnxmen1Okay, I will keep it in mind.14:08
nunizacunot to mention they usualy have more bandwidth and space and are cheaper (sometime free)14:08
nunizacuand there are a lot of fileshare services14:08
nunizacui dont know what exact pupose of your service is14:09
nunizacuif you want another rapidshare be prepared for thousands bucks per month for start14:09
lnxmen1When do you think OVH DNS will be refreshed?14:10
nunizacu1-2 days14:10
nunizacudomain dns take some time to propagate14:10
nunizacuif you have some bucks in pocket just trasfer your domain to cloudns14:11
nunizacuyou will have peace for lifetime14:11
ScottKrbasak: Great.  I've been giving him some help as his particular interest to start with was clamav, but any help you can give would be great.14:11
nunizacubut really, what exactly you want to host?14:12
lnxmen1Peace in IT is boring.14:12
nunizacufileshare have petabytes of storage14:12
lnxmen1I want to host testing site.14:12
lnxmen1I got project, VPS and domain and I have to code some PHP files.14:13
nunizacui think i dont understand you14:13
lnxmen1Just code.14:13
nunizacuso either i dont get what are you doing, your domain name or your pupose14:13
nunizacuplikoshare sound like fileshare14:14
nunizacuwich is public file hosting service wich you wont compete if you arent using 500 euros as toilet paper14:15
lnxmen1Yep.14:15
lnxmen1I am pretty aware of that./14:15
nunizacuthey dont use vps, they have own datacenters, gigabytes of unlimited bandwith and petabytes of storage14:16
lnxmen1Yep, you're right.14:16
nunizacuso i dont gont know what are you trying to do14:16
lnxmen1What if it's just shape?14:16
lnxmen1I am trying to fulfill someone's expectations.14:17
nunizacui dont wont to be pain in the ass but what you want it to be?14:17
lnxmen1Rewrite PHP modules, create new HTML/CSS design. That's all.14:18
nunizacumaybe you will host few files, quickly run of space and bandwidth14:18
nunizacuit's cheaper to do it on home server14:18
lnxmen1Yes, you're right.14:18
nunizacubut why buy domain for that?14:20
lnxmen1This VPS and domain is just for provide actual process of `developement`.14:20
lnxmen1I really do not know.14:20
lnxmen1I did not buy, I just got it.14:20
lnxmen1For me, localhost is sure enough.14:20
nunizacuso you dont pay for the service?14:20
lnxmen1No.14:20
lnxmen1That's the point.14:21
nunizacuyeard of of localtunnel.me ?14:21
lnxmen1Nope.14:21
lnxmen1Wait a minute. Brb14:21
nunizacuits good for developement on home server14:21
nunizacuworks evern if you dont have domain of puplic ip14:21
nunizacuwhatever i wouldnt help some madman who want to make another fileshare14:22
nunizacuthere is so many file hosting services with a lot of money there is no point unless you are a billionare14:23
nunizacueven if i have free everthing excluding current, only one of my server takes 1000 wats14:24
nunizacuanother 2x75014:24
nunizacumy bill for power usage is enormous14:25
nunizacuadd 5 isp's14:25
nunizacuso i have some redundancy14:25
nunizacui already pay lot for everything and im closed alpha state14:26
nunizacubut having server with 64k bogomips costs14:28
lnxmen1I am a madman!14:41
nunizacuwell, i can be such madman for a price14:44
nunizacubut waste my time for free... im to old for that14:45
nunizacui start doing that when i will be at least 85 yo14:45
lnxmen1nunizacu: Give me your PayPal mail then, I will send you some bucks for beer.14:59
nunizacuwhat did i do you want to send me money?15:00
lnxmen1You helped me.15:00
lnxmen1At least I think you helped me.15:00
nunizacuwell, im very gratefull but i maybe recosider it when it will start working15:01
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nunizacui feel wierd someone wants to buy me a beer just for some minior help15:02
lnxmen1Okay. That's honourable.15:02
lnxmen1Why is it weird for you?15:03
nunizacui didnt get a penny for helping yet15:03
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lnxmen1yet.15:04
lnxmen1It's a matter of time.15:04
nunizacumost of peple consider themself such gurus they think helping them is privilage15:05
lnxmen1Although Ubuntu is Open Source and most of help is for free.15:05
nunizacuwell, i help anyone for free if i can but sice most peple appriciate helping by treating me like idiot i dont even tell that i work as natwork admin and promgramist for bout 17 years and im after 2 univeristies15:06
nunizacuso i pretend idiot, it makes my life more calm15:07
nunizacui have enough to do in work15:07
lnxmen1Wow, enormously great experience.15:14
lnxmen1Pretending idiot makes life more calm in general.15:15
* ktosiek never mastered that trick15:18
lnxmen1It's hard to do.15:20
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lnxmen1nunizacu: He said, that his system/idea has great earning possibilities, so it will be quite popular.15:40
nunizacutell him i have great possibility to be president of the universe15:41
nunizacui have great idea and system to do it15:41
lnxmen1I asked three/four times about it.15:41
lnxmen1Is there any point doing it more?15:42
nunizacui just need 2 bilion people sign my petition to start my campain15:42
lnxmen1I mean, I do not want to twist him. It's his, personal, decision.15:43
lnxmen1And, what is more important, his money.15:43
lnxmen1I may do it first.15:43
nunizacuwell, im glad its not my problem15:43
lnxmen1Not mine too.15:43
lnxmen1At least now.15:44
nunizacuwell, working is always a problem, especialy on stupid ideas15:44
nunizacuit may be only worthwile if you paid good15:44
lnxmen1Yep, that is the point.15:44
nunizacui might consider doing such stupid things for at laest 100$ for beggining, if its not much work15:45
nunizacuif it wasnt stupid i mith do it for free15:46
lnxmen1What about 350$ for beginning?15:46
nunizacuwell, i can be an idiot for that much for a while15:47
lnxmen1Only first milestone...15:47
teward!offtopic15:47
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:47
tewardi think you're starting to venture off the point of the channel, guys15:47
lnxmen1teward: sorry15:47
nunizacujust msg me if you want to venture bout that15:47
lnxmen1kk15:48
nunizacuthanks for remainding i forgot what channel is this15:48
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