[01:28] <ChrisP> Scott, should I go and give it a try building 0.98.5 for 14.04.LTS
[03:01] <ScottK> ChrisP: Yes.  Go for it.
[03:48] <ChrisP> Just one probably important question Scott, will it have the .deb extension?
[03:50] <ChrisP> Should say is it correct to have the .deb extension? I ran the example as per the pbuilder link you sent and it appears to have worked correctly
[04:15] <jrwren> jak3000: you get those iptables rules sorted?
[09:47] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:07] <rbasak> ScottK: sorry, I didn't have my away status set. I don't see ChrisP online right now. I'm not going to be in much over the next two weeks - on holiday, then moving house, swap days from the Canonical sprint I've just come back from, etc.
[12:07] <rbasak> But I'd be happy to work with ChrisP on this channel or joining Hangouts etc to train more people up for server packaging when I'm back.
[13:08] <lnxmen> Would I ask about creating virtual host in Apache2?
[13:09] <lnxmen> I followed this tutorial - https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[13:09] <lnxmen> But step 7 gives me "Host not found".
[13:22] <lordievader> lnxmen: In step 6 is it pointing to an existing ip address?
[13:22] <lnxmen> Yes.
[13:22] <lnxmen> This address in web browser redirects me to /var/www/html/index.html
[13:22] <lnxmen> If default host is enabled.
[13:23] <lordievader> lnxmen: What is the output of 'host <vhost>'?
[13:24] <lnxmen> Host example.com not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
[13:26] <lordievader> lnxmen: Could you pastebin your /etc/hosts file?
[13:27] <nunizacu> ops i hit 404
[13:28] <lnxmen1> I had delay in internet access. Did you write anything?
[13:29] <lordievader> lnxmen: Could you pastebin your /etc/hosts file?
[13:29] <lnxmen1> surely
[13:30] <lnxmen1> here you are: http://pastebin.com/QhCeZLCi
[13:31] <lordievader> lnxmen1: There is no example.com in there?
[13:32] <lnxmen1> Host plikoshare.com not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
[13:32] <lnxmen1> It should be.
[13:32] <nunizacu> couse it is not on any dns server
[13:32] <nunizacu> /etc/host is local
[13:33] <lnxmen1> So then, why OVH control panel shows appropiate preview od domain?
[13:33] <lordievader> Hmm, I thought host did check /etc/hosts...
[13:34] <nunizacu> did you register plikohare.com domain ?
[13:34] <lnxmen1> yes
[13:34] <lnxmen1> It's already in my OVH control panel.
[13:34] <lnxmen1> I may change anything I want.
[13:34] <lnxmen1> But preview is quite good.
[13:34] <nunizacu> wierd, dig shows no soa record
[13:34] <nunizacu> no A record
[13:34] <lnxmen1> It shows html file I created while following the tutorial
[13:35] <nunizacu> wait a second
[13:35] <lordievader> I don't think this is a "real" domain...
[13:36] <nunizacu> seams it is registered
[13:36] <lordievader> Why else would it be defined in /etc/hosts...
[13:36] <lnxmen1> I do not know.
[13:36] <nunizacu> wait wait i check it in few more ways
[13:36] <lnxmen1> I added these lines.
[13:36] <lnxmen1> (as it's shown in tutorial)
[13:37] <nunizacu> they arent needed for anything
[13:37] <nunizacu> maybe for shortcuts or internal networking
[13:37] <lordievader> lnxmen1: Did you reboot after adding the line to /etc/hosts? It might be that it is loaded once at boot.
[13:37] <lnxmen1> No.
[13:37] <lordievader> nunizacu: It's there for testing the vhost.
[13:38] <nunizacu> for domains you need registered domain and dns server with proper records
[13:38] <lnxmen1> I have registered domain.
[13:38] <lordievader> nunizacu: For testing purposes /etc/hosts is just fine.
[13:38] <lnxmen1> DNS server provides OVH, I think.
[13:38] <nunizacu> how much time ago?
[13:39] <lnxmen1> about 2 days.
[13:39] <nunizacu> well, i check it on many many dns servers and none sees it, ill check registration
[13:39] <nunizacu> you shure its plikoshare.com ?
[13:40] <nunizacu> no typo?
[13:40] <lnxmen1> Absolutely.
[13:40] <lnxmen1> plikoshare.com // copied from OVH panel.
[13:40] <nunizacu> if dns around the world doesnt see soa record it wont work
[13:40] <lnxmen1> What should I do, then?
[13:40] <lnxmen1> I may add, that it worked yesterday.
[13:41] <lnxmen1> But I reinstalled server to Ubuntu 14.10
[13:41] <nunizacu> well for me it looks like dns problem
[13:41] <lnxmen1> But reinstalling server should not affect dns...
[13:41] <nunizacu> domain IS registered thats for sure ill check ns servers
[13:42] <lnxmen1> Do you want dns entries?
[13:42] <nunizacu> rather dns server names
[13:42] <nunizacu> and check if domain is pointed to those dns
[13:42] <lnxmen1> NS entries?
[13:43] <nunizacu> NS enteries means what dns servers has info about domain
[13:43] <lnxmen1> DNS management: vps116055.ovh.net , sdns2.ovh.net
[13:43] <lnxmen1> Both are active.
[13:45] <nunizacu> this dns doesnt heard of your domain
[13:45] <lnxmen1> Is it a matter of time? Or I did something wrong?
[13:46] <nunizacu> looks like your domain points do dns that have no idea of your domain
[13:46] <nunizacu> wait a second
[13:46] <lnxmen1> Really strange, because it had idea yesterday.
[13:47] <nunizacu> this is vps or dedicated?
[13:48] <lnxmen1> vps
[13:48] <lnxmen1> I found something.
[13:48] <lnxmen1> DNS server is not supported by OVH.
[13:49] <lnxmen1> That's a message I can see.
[13:49] <nunizacu> well i just foud out you should use different dns
[13:49] <nunizacu> those dns u use are for dedicated servers
[13:50] <lnxmen1> So, what DNS should I add?
[13:50] <lnxmen1> http://imgur.com/I4ZfveE
[13:51] <nunizacu> proper dns are ns108.ovh.net and dns108.ovh.net
[13:51] <nunizacu> for vps
[13:51] <nunizacu> u use dns for dedicated server
[13:51] <lnxmen1> Okay, it was added by OVH.
[13:52] <lnxmen1> I did not change it before.
[13:52] <nunizacu> wierd thing
[13:52] <nunizacu> i dont use ovh so i can only be so much helpful
[13:53] <lnxmen1> I am immensely grateful. Thank you.
[13:53] <nunizacu> well problem is your domain doesnt point to any dns and have no soa record
[13:54] <nunizacu> but if it has wrong dns provided it wont have it
[13:54] <lnxmen1> If I have NS records, so DNS servers should not be the same?
[13:54] <lnxmen1> ns110.ovh.net. and dns110.ovh.net.
[13:54] <lnxmen1> You provided 108 *
[13:55] <nunizacu> ovh site states 108 is proper dns for vps
[13:55] <nunizacu> ns108 and dns108
[13:55] <lnxmen1> Yes, I added them in DNS management.
[13:56] <nunizacu> first clean up dns management
[13:56] <nunizacu> or use some sane dns service like cloudns
[13:57] <nunizacu> i have reaally lot of entries there, they probide much geolocated dns server, are fast and cheap
[13:58] <lnxmen1> DNS Management operations are pending.
[13:58] <lnxmen1> It's not my choice what DNS server should I use.
[13:59] <nunizacu> well, someone is point a gun at you and say use ovh dns for your domain?
[13:59] <nunizacu> i had ovh servers and never use their dns and never bought domain from them
[13:59] <nunizacu> you can buy cheper and for the rest buy better dns service
[14:00] <nunizacu> btw for file hosting you should rather look for hosting not vps
[14:00] <lnxmen1> Next time I won't do the same mistake.
[14:00] <lnxmen1> I know. It's testing site.
[14:00] <nunizacu> somthing with lot of space and bandwidth
[14:01] <nunizacu> not to mention they are cheaper
[14:02] <nunizacu> i got plenty of TB of storage and this is not even close for serious file hosting
[14:03] <lnxmen1> As I said, it's only testing site.
[14:03] <lnxmen1> Design, user space...
[14:03] <lnxmen1> 7 GB free space. ^
[14:03] <nunizacu> even thou i have servers in england, poland, germany, sinapore, rpa, germany, lithuania, vietnam, japan
[14:03] <nunizacu> oh and china
[14:04] <lnxmen1> "Welcome to ClouDNS!", let's see.
[14:04] <nunizacu> its very googd service
[14:05] <nunizacu> it has problem with unusual domains but so i have to run my own secondary for those, but anyway i never had any problem with it
[14:05] <lnxmen1> Is there support for PayPal?
[14:05] <nunizacu> i dont remember, i think i used credit card
[14:06] <nunizacu> but for one site free service should be enough
[14:06] <nunizacu> i think free serveice has 10 zone or entries limit or someting
[14:07] <nunizacu> enoguth for fileshare.com and www.fileshare.com
[14:07] <nunizacu> but for serious hosting look for something other than vps, those arent meant for hosting
[14:07] <nunizacu> unless you run torrent or rsync server
[14:08] <lnxmen1> Okay, I will keep it in mind.
[14:08] <nunizacu> not to mention they usualy have more bandwidth and space and are cheaper (sometime free)
[14:08] <nunizacu> and there are a lot of fileshare services
[14:09] <nunizacu> i dont know what exact pupose of your service is
[14:09] <nunizacu> if you want another rapidshare be prepared for thousands bucks per month for start
[14:10] <lnxmen1> When do you think OVH DNS will be refreshed?
[14:10] <nunizacu> 1-2 days
[14:10] <nunizacu> domain dns take some time to propagate
[14:11] <nunizacu> if you have some bucks in pocket just trasfer your domain to cloudns
[14:11] <nunizacu> you will have peace for lifetime
[14:11] <ScottK> rbasak: Great.  I've been giving him some help as his particular interest to start with was clamav, but any help you can give would be great.
[14:12] <nunizacu> but really, what exactly you want to host?
[14:12] <lnxmen1> Peace in IT is boring.
[14:12] <nunizacu> fileshare have petabytes of storage
[14:12] <lnxmen1> I want to host testing site.
[14:13] <lnxmen1> I got project, VPS and domain and I have to code some PHP files.
[14:13] <nunizacu> i think i dont understand you
[14:13] <lnxmen1> Just code.
[14:13] <nunizacu> so either i dont get what are you doing, your domain name or your pupose
[14:14] <nunizacu> plikoshare sound like fileshare
[14:15] <nunizacu> wich is public file hosting service wich you wont compete if you arent using 500 euros as toilet paper
[14:15] <lnxmen1> Yep.
[14:15] <lnxmen1> I am pretty aware of that./
[14:16] <nunizacu> they dont use vps, they have own datacenters, gigabytes of unlimited bandwith and petabytes of storage
[14:16] <lnxmen1> Yep, you're right.
[14:16] <nunizacu> so i dont gont know what are you trying to do
[14:16] <lnxmen1> What if it's just shape?
[14:17] <lnxmen1> I am trying to fulfill someone's expectations.
[14:17] <nunizacu> i dont wont to be pain in the ass but what you want it to be?
[14:18] <lnxmen1> Rewrite PHP modules, create new HTML/CSS design. That's all.
[14:18] <nunizacu> maybe you will host few files, quickly run of space and bandwidth
[14:18] <nunizacu> it's cheaper to do it on home server
[14:18] <lnxmen1> Yes, you're right.
[14:20] <nunizacu> but why buy domain for that?
[14:20] <lnxmen1> This VPS and domain is just for provide actual process of `developement`.
[14:20] <lnxmen1> I really do not know.
[14:20] <lnxmen1> I did not buy, I just got it.
[14:20] <lnxmen1> For me, localhost is sure enough.
[14:20] <nunizacu> so you dont pay for the service?
[14:20] <lnxmen1> No.
[14:21] <lnxmen1> That's the point.
[14:21] <nunizacu> yeard of of localtunnel.me ?
[14:21] <lnxmen1> Nope.
[14:21] <lnxmen1> Wait a minute. Brb
[14:21] <nunizacu> its good for developement on home server
[14:21] <nunizacu> works evern if you dont have domain of puplic ip
[14:22] <nunizacu> whatever i wouldnt help some madman who want to make another fileshare
[14:23] <nunizacu> there is so many file hosting services with a lot of money there is no point unless you are a billionare
[14:24] <nunizacu> even if i have free everthing excluding current, only one of my server takes 1000 wats
[14:24] <nunizacu> another 2x750
[14:25] <nunizacu> my bill for power usage is enormous
[14:25] <nunizacu> add 5 isp's
[14:25] <nunizacu> so i have some redundancy
[14:26] <nunizacu> i already pay lot for everything and im closed alpha state
[14:28] <nunizacu> but having server with 64k bogomips costs
[14:41] <lnxmen1> I am a madman!
[14:44] <nunizacu> well, i can be such madman for a price
[14:45] <nunizacu> but waste my time for free... im to old for that
[14:45] <nunizacu> i start doing that when i will be at least 85 yo
[14:59] <lnxmen1> nunizacu: Give me your PayPal mail then, I will send you some bucks for beer.
[15:00] <nunizacu> what did i do you want to send me money?
[15:00] <lnxmen1> You helped me.
[15:00] <lnxmen1> At least I think you helped me.
[15:01] <nunizacu> well, im very gratefull but i maybe recosider it when it will start working
[15:02] <nunizacu> i feel wierd someone wants to buy me a beer just for some minior help
[15:02] <lnxmen1> Okay. That's honourable.
[15:03] <lnxmen1> Why is it weird for you?
[15:03] <nunizacu> i didnt get a penny for helping yet
[15:04] <lnxmen1> yet.
[15:04] <lnxmen1> It's a matter of time.
[15:05] <nunizacu> most of peple consider themself such gurus they think helping them is privilage
[15:05] <lnxmen1> Although Ubuntu is Open Source and most of help is for free.
[15:06] <nunizacu> well, i help anyone for free if i can but sice most peple appriciate helping by treating me like idiot i dont even tell that i work as natwork admin and promgramist for bout 17 years and im after 2 univeristies
[15:07] <nunizacu> so i pretend idiot, it makes my life more calm
[15:07] <nunizacu> i have enough to do in work
[15:14] <lnxmen1> Wow, enormously great experience.
[15:15] <lnxmen1> Pretending idiot makes life more calm in general.
[15:18]  * ktosiek never mastered that trick
[15:20] <lnxmen1> It's hard to do.
[15:40] <lnxmen1> nunizacu: He said, that his system/idea has great earning possibilities, so it will be quite popular.
[15:41] <nunizacu> tell him i have great possibility to be president of the universe
[15:41] <nunizacu> i have great idea and system to do it
[15:41] <lnxmen1> I asked three/four times about it.
[15:42] <lnxmen1> Is there any point doing it more?
[15:42] <nunizacu> i just need 2 bilion people sign my petition to start my campain
[15:43] <lnxmen1> I mean, I do not want to twist him. It's his, personal, decision.
[15:43] <lnxmen1> And, what is more important, his money.
[15:43] <lnxmen1> I may do it first.
[15:43] <nunizacu> well, im glad its not my problem
[15:43] <lnxmen1> Not mine too.
[15:44] <lnxmen1> At least now.
[15:44] <nunizacu> well, working is always a problem, especialy on stupid ideas
[15:44] <nunizacu> it may be only worthwile if you paid good
[15:44] <lnxmen1> Yep, that is the point.
[15:45] <nunizacu> i might consider doing such stupid things for at laest 100$ for beggining, if its not much work
[15:46] <nunizacu> if it wasnt stupid i mith do it for free
[15:46] <lnxmen1> What about 350$ for beginning?
[15:47] <nunizacu> well, i can be an idiot for that much for a while
[15:47] <lnxmen1> Only first milestone...
[15:47] <teward> !offtopic
[15:47] <teward> i think you're starting to venture off the point of the channel, guys
[15:47] <lnxmen1> teward: sorry
[15:47] <nunizacu> just msg me if you want to venture bout that
[15:48] <lnxmen1> kk
[15:48] <nunizacu> thanks for remainding i forgot what channel is this
[18:02] <Kutakizukari> http://virtualmin.com/node/35338#comment-140719
[18:11] <rio_zenta> Hello
[19:47] <pmatulis> hello