[01:16] <ryukafalz> So what's the app situation like these days? Haven't given Ubuntu Touch a try in a while.
[01:23] <melvster> does anyone here actually use ubuntu touch to connect to IRC?  if so, could you recommend an app?
[01:35]  * ryukafalz wonders if Communi has an Ubuntu Touch UI
[02:09] <melvster> oh irccloud is there!
[02:11] <Elleo> cwayne, popey: got cutespotify working again, just need to finish making it resolution independent and then I can see about hacking in url-dispatcher and possibly suspension prevention (for the unconfined version)
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> you guys read this1 yet?
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/11/ubuntu-phone-partner-bq-november-event
[06:58] <dragon_> Hi
[06:59] <dragon_> I'm looking to port Ubuntu touch onto an Asus Transformer tablet T100TA
[06:59] <dragon_> I was wondering if anyone has tried this before?
[13:50] <cwayne> popey: thanks for lettin untappd through :)
[13:51] <cwayne> rsalveti: heya, don't suppose you'd want to help me try and port oneplus one to ubuntu :P
[14:30] <popey> cwayne: np, unpublished my app
[14:31] <cwayne> popey: you could've left it up, but either way works I suppose :)
[14:31]  * cwayne should write a tutorial on using online-accounts in webapps
[14:31] <cwayne> it's much easier than I expected
[14:31] <popey> makes no sense having both really
[14:31] <popey> especially as mine is broken
[14:31] <popey> yes, yes you should
[14:32] <popey> would be good on developer.ubuntu.com
[14:32] <cwayne> i'll try and do that today
[14:32] <popey> nice one
[14:32] <cwayne> in between my mini self-scope-sprint
[14:32] <popey> let mhall119 know, he can publish it there
[14:39] <cwayne> will do
[15:32] <taiebot> Hey i have a suggestion for the webapps. Could the header bar be also a link to the home page of the webapp? For the moment its just a previous button but it would be nice to have a home button on top instead of the title.
[15:33] <ogra_> taiebot, i was thinking about suggesting to use the favicon as home button (so you dont waste extra space)
[15:33] <ogra_> file a whishlist bug agaiinst webbrowser-app
[15:34] <taiebot> Ok will do. its just the header bar is sitting there quite empty does not feel very integrated to the system.
[15:36] <ogra_> well, its is most of the time only tthere for a back button
[15:57] <cwayne> woo, got a dictionary scope done
[15:57]  * cwayne is on a roll
[16:07] <cwayne> im really loving the automated reviews into the store
[16:18] <bangmode> howdy
[16:19] <bangmode> im looking for a new nexus 4 16 gb for usage with ubuntu, but it seems to be sold out everywhere... does anyone here know some online shop still sellin it?
[16:23] <pngo_> Is there a documentation or something explaining how to make app running all the time? Music-app must use it. I would like to stream audio via mplayer but as soon as screen becomes black, mplayer stops working.
[16:23] <ahayzen> pngo, we have exceptions across the platform
[16:28] <pngo_> ahayzen, so id there a way to add mplayer to that exception?
[16:28] <pngo_> so is .....
[16:29] <ahayzen> pngo_, from my understanding, not currently unless you are called com.ubuntu.music ;) ... i'm sure there will be in the future as we need to remove our hacky ways ... we are waiting for background playlists support within media-hub for this
[16:29] <pngo_> ahayzen, thank you
[16:30] <ahayzen> pngo_, i'm sure jhodapp may be able answer your questions more clearly if he is about
[16:34] <pngo_> ahayzen, do you know is I can call music-app from terminal. I'm thinking to pipe music to music player ex. mplayer | music-app, but I'm not sure how to call it
[16:34] <ahayzen> pngo_, i don't think that would work
[16:35] <ahayzen> pngo_, you really want to tell media-hub to play the stream
[16:35] <ahayzen> pngo_, then it'll continue playing when the screen is off .. or at least has the possibility it might ;)
[17:15] <ogra_> pngo_, there are no exceptions, there are services your app can use (music-app has no exception at all)
[17:15] <ogra_> but these services are only provides to QML or via C++ ...
[17:15] <ahayzen> ogra_, we have a lifecycle exception though ?
[17:16] <ogra_> you would have too write a C++ wrapper for mplayer to make that work
[17:16] <ogra_> ahayzen, not for music-app, only for the media-hub service
[17:16] <ahayzen> ogra_, no we do...
[17:17] <ogra_> (there used to be one for music-app in the past, that should hevae been dropped a while ago when the media-hub grew that feature)
[17:17] <ahayzen> ogra_, media-hub doesn't meet our requirements yet though...hang on let me find the code
[17:17] <ogra_> if ti hasnt been dropped yet, thats definitely a bug
[17:17] <ahayzen> yeah it is
[17:18] <ahayzen> we are waiting for background playlists
[17:18] <ogra_> oh, i thought that had landed
[17:18] <ahayzen> ogra_, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/unity-mir/trunk/view/head:/src/modules/Unity/Application/application_manager.cpp#L217
[17:18] <ahayzen> ogra_, nope not yet
[17:19] <ogra_> ouch
[17:19] <ahayzen> ogra_, i think that is the *last* exception... once background playlists are done in media-hub then we are a 'normal' app
[17:19] <ogra_> well, in any case new apps shouldnt count on any exceptions anymore
[17:19] <ahayzen> ogra_, yeah exactly
[17:20] <ogra_> there are a few services that are allowed to run and apps need to use them ... if they dont, they will just get suspended
[17:21] <ogra_> (and afailk that is only media-hub and the push-service atm)
[17:22] <ogra_> you would first have to pacckage mplayer as a click ... with all its deps anyway ,,, and then teach it to talk to media-hub ...
[17:22] <ogra_> in the end writing a player from scratch would be a lot less work ;)
[17:23] <ogra_> (since thats possible in 20-50 lines of QML ... and it will use hardware decoding)
[17:25] <ogra_> heh, the store seems to have a busy weekend, tons of new apps today
[17:34] <cwayne> ogra_: some of that was me :P
[17:37] <ogra_> yep, i see it :)
[17:37] <ogra_> and some was me :)
[17:37] <cwayne> :)
[17:38]  * ogra_ is sad that his phone doesnt survive more than 3-2h before hanging hard today though 
[17:38] <cwayne> mines been pretty solid
[17:38] <cwayne> more solid than my desktop lately in fact
[17:38] <ogra_>  havent had to reboot that much in the last few weeks
[17:38] <cwayne> i get a hard freeze at least once a day
[17:38] <cwayne> i'd gone months without one before last week :/
[17:39] <ogra_> intel graphics ?
[17:39] <cwayne> amd
[17:39] <ogra_> ah
[17:39] <K1773R> cwayne: memtest
[17:39] <cwayne> yeah, i should
[17:39] <cwayne> but that would dig into my scope-writing time :)
[17:40]  * ogra_ could live with losing one desktop here ... that my phone hangs hard with the supposed golden milestone is kind of more worrying atm
[17:49] <xplt> Hi all! I have a question: what are "Kits" and why I can't "Autocreate" one (and do I actually need them if I use the emulator?)?
[17:51] <bangmode> hi again
[17:51] <bangmode> can anyone help me finding a new unused nexus 4 16 gb i cant find it in any online store
[17:52] <xplt> After entering my password, I get this: http://pastebin.com/Q2m5HZrk
[17:52] <xplt> Or do I need additional packages?
[17:53] <xplt> Hm...
[17:56] <pngo_> ok I'm trying another approach, I read that it is possible to adb to localhost but in order to do that I need to add adbkey.pub to ./data/misc/adb/adb_keys. I can not do that do to permission. Any ideas?
[17:56] <xplt> Ugh. Yeah, I haven't had needed packages. But since Qt Creator/Ubuntu SDK asked for my password why couldn't it do it automatically?
[17:58] <ogra_> pngo_, key auth is completely disabled in ubuntu adbd
[17:59] <ogra_> oyu can use phablet-shell (from the phablet-tools package),, that will enable tcp forwarding and run a ssh login via the adb connection though
[18:00] <ogra_> xplt, you might have more luck in #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:01] <xplt> Oh
[18:01] <xplt> thanks
[18:01] <ogra_> (most app devs hang around here as well, but might not watch this channel for SDK questions... specifically on a sunday)
[18:16]  * popey looks at the store spam
[18:17] <popey> expecting http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/graph.png to get an up-tick tomorrow
[18:17] <cwayne> how many apps made it in today?
[18:18] <popey> about 15
[18:18]  * popey looks at ogra_ 
[18:18] <cwayne> nice
[18:21] <cwayne> popey: i was only 5 of em :)
[18:22] <popey> "only" ☻
[18:24] <xplt> "today"? ;)
[18:26] <cwayne> yes and yes :)
[19:01] <popey> cwayne: still about? can you drop in #ubuntu-app-devel ? got someone with a question you may be able to answer
[19:03] <taiebot1> Is the youtube scope broken on rtm? on vivid the images of the video and the link to the video never gets downloaded. Everything looks ok until you click on one icon and you will see the bug
[19:23] <cwayne> \o/ more progress http://people.canonical.com/~cwayne/preview.png
[20:46] <melvster> adb shell gives me : device not found
[20:46] <melvster> but it's there connected in the file manager
[22:17] <melvster> hmmm
[22:17] <melvster> adb devices
[22:17] <melvster> is empty
[22:28] <pngo_> melvster , is developer mode on?
[22:50] <melvster> pngo_: I think so, I recently flashed the devel channel, does that reset developer mode to off?
[22:51] <melvster> ah ha
[22:51] <melvster> it's off
[22:53] <melvster> worked
[22:56] <melvster> oh i had to set a pin :(
[22:58] <melvster> yay adb shell works :)