[00:00] <nszceta> maybe paulzz can install a newer kernel
[00:00] <nszceta> shouldn't break much if anything
[00:00] <nszceta> upgrade kernel and install LXC and then do all your heavy lifting in the containers
[00:00] <Thev> how do i install linux from the boot
[00:00] <Thev> computer is way to slow to boot from the live cd
[00:00] <nszceta> wot
[00:01] <Thev> so is there a way i cant just start the installation
[00:01] <nszceta> ?????
[00:01] <nszceta> Thev: how much RAM do you have in this computer
[00:01] <Thev> its a pentium 3 at 512mb ram
[00:01] <nszceta> btw Thev you can dd the image to a usb key and try to start it that way
[00:01] <Thev> but it just stays stuck at checking battery stat
[00:01] <godbod>  Hello everyone.
[00:01] <Thev> this old laptop doesnt have a usb port
[00:02] <nszceta> Thev: what ubuntu version
[00:02] <nszceta> its probably stuck as in totally stuck so you might need to try an alternative ubuntu image or even another distro
[00:02] <Thev> well its based on ubuntu i burned bodhi since i need something somall
[00:02] <Thev> since this comp can only read cd's
[00:03] <nszceta> I would highly recommend Arch Linux for such a slow computer
[00:03] <Thev> so i hit ctrol alt f11
[00:03] <k1l> try with a lubuntu iso.
[00:03] <Thev> but i dont know the command to start the install
[00:03] <nszceta> for what
[00:03] <k1l> that is the best you can do, beside trying a minimal install. but i dont think your system got PAE anyways
[00:04] <Thev> cant do lubuntu the image is 700
[00:05] <Thev> wont fit on cd
[00:05] <godbod>  what is lubuntu?
[00:05] <Thev> im currently at this commandline bodhi@bodhi:~$
[00:05] <paulzz> what is the default gcc version in 14.04? is it 4.9?
[00:05] <Thev> but was wondering if there is a command to start the install i cna type at that
[00:05] <nszceta> wtf
[00:06] <nszceta> this isn't ubuntu Thev
[00:06] <nszceta> you need to go to the support channel for your distro
[00:06] <Thev> sigh no one is there
[00:06] <nszceta> damn man
[00:06] <nszceta> you might want to consider giving up on that distro in that case
[00:06] <nszceta> no community = no solutions to problems
[00:07] <Thev> well i dont know any distro small enough
[00:07] <nszceta> what happens when you try ubuntu or its spin Lubuntu
[00:07] <k1l> !lubuntu > godbod
[00:07] <Thev> lol i cant since those images are 700mb
[00:07] <Thev> wont fit on a cd
[00:07] <nszceta> yes they do
[00:08] <Thev> cd is of 700mb only?
[00:08] <k1l> Thev: we cant support other OS in here. so please ask the support from that OS you use
[00:08] <nszceta> Thev: CD is 700 MB
[00:08] <nszceta> if your burner complains, turn on overburning
[00:08] <nszceta> burn at slow speed, 1x
[00:08] <Thev> k
[00:08] <Thev> ima download ubuntu
[00:08] <nszceta> k
[00:09] <Thev> but can i install ubuntut without booting form that live cd
[00:09] <Seveas> stick it on a usb drive
[00:09] <Thev> computer doenst have a usb drive
[00:09] <k1l> i doubt the old machine can boot from usb
[00:09] <Thev> and i just checked ubuntu is 900mb
[00:10] <Thev> it wont fit on the cd
[00:10] <k1l> Thev: Lubuntu
[00:10] <k1l> !lubuntu | Thev
[00:10] <Seveas> ubuntu won't run on a computer so old it doesn't have a usb drive
[00:10] <Thev> well if this system runs windows xp fine
[00:10] <Seveas> s/drive/boot capability/
[00:10] <Flannel> Thev: Put it on a DVD?
[00:10] <k1l> yeah. thats what i thought too. i am not sure if Lubuntu needs PAE too.
[00:10] <godbod>  what's the last version of kde ?
[00:10] <Thev> im sure it cna run linux
[00:10] <Seveas> Thev: yes, and XP is now 13 years old.
[00:11] <k1l> Thev: then find a linux that supports that old hardware
[00:11] <Seveas> Ubunto from 10 years ago (13 years ago there was no Ubuntu) will work fine on it.
[00:11] <Seveas> and the cd's for Ubuntu 4.10 are smaller than 650MB :)
[00:11] <kostkon> Thev, linux is the kernel. You could try a super lightweight distro, like puppy, slitaz etc.
[00:12] <Thev> but i need to be able to start the install without booting from the live cd
[00:12] <Thev> the ram sucks so i wont be able to actually go into the live cd and install
[00:12] <paulzz> why not boot the cd?
[00:12] <Seveas> Thev: Ubuntu 4.10 had a separate text-based install cd
[00:13] <k1l> sadly 4.10 is out of support.
[00:13] <Seveas> as is the ancient hardware he's trying to shoehorn a modern Ubuntu on
[00:13] <k1l> Thev: see if the 12.04 lubuntu install got a alternate install cd
[00:13] <Seveas> the best thing to do with it is to set it on fire :)
[00:14] <Thev> lol
[00:14] <Thev> true
[00:14] <Thev> its my uncles computer lol
[00:14] <oniongirl>  CAn someone please help me? I've tried everything to fix this problem. I have an external HD that I used with an old Macbook. I sold the macbook but before I did I disabled Journalism so I could use it on Linux. I can read the drive now but I cannot write to it. I've tried just about everything... I've read about everything. My main HD dosen't have much space so I need to use it for backups and stuff. can someone please help make thi
[00:14] <oniongirl> s R/W?
[00:14] <Thev> he wnted to know if i culd make it faster
[00:14] <Thev> figured if i culd get linux running but o wells
[00:14] <Seveas> oniongirl: as explained before: HFS write support for linux is nonexistent.
[00:14] <tytan> oniongirl how is the drive formatted?
[00:15] <oniongirl> It HFS+
[00:15] <Seveas> Thev: you can make it faster by throwing it off a high building :)
[00:15] <godbod>  oniongirl did you try giver right to read to the HD?
[00:15] <oniongirl> yes i did
[00:15] <godbod>  chmod 755 <> to the HD for instance
[00:15] <Seveas> oniongirl: back up what's on there and reformat as something linux can write to.
[00:15] <Seveas> godbod: that won't help. linux can't write to HFS+
[00:15] <Thev> nvm got it to load
[00:16] <Thev> edited thecommands just now
[00:16] <Thev> remove something casper
[00:16] <Thev> rofl
[00:16] <estudiante> udiante
[00:16] <oniongirl> Seveas,  thats not true it can write to HFS+ If it is not Journalized
[00:16] <estudiante> hola
[00:16] <Thev> noooo a mexican
[00:16] <oniongirl> Only with Journallism on it cant be R or W
[00:16] <Thev> lol
[00:16] <Thev> jk
[00:16] <Seveas> !uy | estudiante
[00:16] <Seveas> hmm
[00:16] <estudiante> Cabron No Mamames
[00:16] <Seveas> !es | estudiante
[00:16] <godbod>  :-O
[00:17] <Thev> hable en ingles
[00:17] <godbod>  ubottu can you speak in english please?
[00:17] <Thev> puta
[00:17] <estudiante> Hellou¨*
[00:17] <godbod>  what's that?!
[00:17] <k1l> Thev: enough of that
[00:18] <Thev> porque?
[00:18] <Thev> sigh
[00:19] <k1l> Thev: enough of your non-ubuntu support and bad language in here. please keep this channel clear for users who want to solve ubuntu issues. thanks
[00:20] <Thev> so any distros built on top of ubuntu would be offtopic?
[00:20] <Flannel> Thev: yes.
[00:20] <mGuv> Is this a place I can get support or should that be taken elsewhere?
[00:20] <kostkon> Thev, official derivatives are supported though
[00:20] <Daekdroom> mGuv, this is - the - place for support
[00:20] <kostkon> mGuv, this is the place
[00:21] <Thev> okay so i have a question im running ubuntu 2
[00:21] <Thev> would that count as support
[00:21] <pilikeits> hi all. i have to watch one silverlight video with my ubuntu. how i can do it? i installed moonlight version, but i can't see it
[00:22] <mGuv> okay thanks, I'm using Ubuntu Server 14.04 and for the life of me can't get mysql-server to install correctly.
[00:22] <mGuv> It's locking up whilst installing after prompting me it can't set the root password
[00:22] <mGuv> can't find any info in logs either
[00:22] <xangua> pilikeits: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[00:23] <godbod>  I have heard that ubuntu uses information given in the Ubuntu One search bar. Is that true? Ca we still consider Ubuntu an free software?
[00:23] <Seveas> mGuv: have you installed mysql before on this server?
[00:23] <xangua> moonlight stopped being developed years ago and not even when it was supported all silverlight features
[00:23] <Seveas> godbod: you should /nick slowpoke and stop trolling
[00:23] <mGuv> Seveas, not that I'm aware but someone mentioned mysql may have been part of the ubuntu install, and I may have goofed it up
[00:24] <godbod>  that is not trolling Seveas
[00:24] <godbod>  I am asking the question to know.
[00:24] <Thev> is windows 8 better than ubuntu?
[00:25] <cynicallemon> is margerine better than butter?
[00:25] <nemith> I can't belive that
[00:25] <Seveas> mGuv: sudo find /var/lib/mysql/ -type d -- is there anything besides 'test', 'mysql' and 'performance_schema'?
[00:25] <godbod>  LOL
[00:25] <Seveas> k1l: looks like you're going to get busy... :/
[00:26] <mGuv> Seveas, there's no test, just the root mysql folder, mysql and perf_schema
[00:26] <peepsalot> anyone here running cinnamon desktop on ubuntu 14.10?
[00:26] <k1l> guys, keep it to ubuntu support please. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat. thanks
[00:26] <peepsalot> is there any stable-ish (not nightly) repo that has cinnamon 2.4
[00:27] <peepsalot> built for ubuntu
[00:27] <mGuv> it says the mysql service is installed but it doesn't ever return after doing sudo service mysql start, nor can I connect to it with mysqladmin (probably because i have no idea what the root password is)
[00:27] <gamzera_> guys, can you suggest me some general channel on irc freenode?
[00:27] <pilikeits> xangua, THANK you SIR!! :D very  very much :)
[00:27] <mGuv> tried to set the root password via dkpg-reconfigure but that also throws the failed to set password error
[00:27] <kostkon> !alis | gamzera_
[00:27] <godbod>  gamzera_ you have many channels
[00:27] <pilikeits> xangua, its working now :)
[00:27] <Seveas> mGuv: ok, it's a new install. remove mysql-server, rm -rf /var/lib/mysql and try again :)
[00:27] <godbod>  what do you want to know about ?
[00:27] <oniongirl> Is it possible to change the format of a disk from HFS+ To like FAT or whatever without losing the data?
[00:27] <gamzera_> godbod: I need some general one..
[00:28] <gamzera_> godbod: I want to hear feedback on one product that I am currently making
[00:28] <k1l> gamzera_: #freenode for freenode support please
[00:28] <Seveas> oniongirl: no.
[00:28] <Marasgeon> greetings, I have a specific SD card which I can't open and view it's files, Ubuntu recognize it but it says unknown format, any suggestions?
[00:28] <bubbasaures> peepsalot, You have the Ubuntu repos; supported and PPA's technically not here.
[00:29] <bubbasaures> Marasgeon, What is it's format?
[00:29] <Seveas> Marasgeon: can you open it on another computer/os? If so, find out how it's formatted (and maybe reformat to fat32 while you're at it)
[00:29] <peepsalot> bubbasaures, what?
[00:29] <Marasgeon> yes it is formatted in fat 32
[00:30] <Marasgeon> I can open it in Windows
[00:30] <Seveas> Marasgeon: it may have been removed without properly unmounting / "removing safely". Run a disk checker under windows.
[00:31] <Marasgeon> Yeah I try to reformat it but the proccess stopped
[00:31] <bubbasaures> peepsalot, This channel supports what is in it's repos. Any other are 3rd party and not supported here generally. Not to complicated now.
[00:31] <Marasgeon> I used gparted but it says error input output
[00:32] <Seveas> Marasgeon: that's starting to look more like physical damage.
[00:33] <Marasgeon> Seveas: So I guess I save my files from Windows, but why windows can open the card?
[00:33] <Seveas> Marasgeon: can it read all the files? Can it format the drive?
[00:34] <Marasgeon> yeah it has my pictures which I can view, I can format it but Ubuntu keep saying Unknown format
[00:34] <bubbasaures> peepsalot, Cinnamon has been reintroduced to the 14.10 release, appears to be 2.2.16-3,  2.4 is in a PPA as far as I can tell.
[00:34] <mGuv> Seveas, still getting the same issue, even after rm -rfing it
[00:38] <yadnus> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[00:38] <yadnus> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[00:38] <yadnus> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[00:38] <Seveas> mGuv: can you pastebin the full output of the install attempt?
[00:38] <yadnus> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[00:38] <yadnus> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[00:38] <Seveas> k1l: you have another customer
[00:39] <Marasgeon> Seveas: Is there a possibility that physical damage came from improper unmount?
[00:39] <Seveas> Marasgeon: I doubt it.
[00:39] <Marasgeon> Seveas: So if windows can open the card means there is no physical damage?
[00:40] <bubbasaures> Marasgeon, MS partitions can be messed up needing a chkdsk enough grub wont read them right, or linux will mount.
[00:41] <godbod>  www.google.com
[00:41] <Seveas> Marasgeon: I didn't say that. I asked whether it could open *all* files and reformat. If it also can't, there's physical damage and it's time to throw out the sd card.
[00:42] <mGuv> Seveas, what log would that be? the dpkg one?
[00:42] <Marasgeon> bubbasaures and Seveas thanks a lot for your help, have a good night!
[00:42] <Ranieri_> Hey ubuntu guru's.
[00:43] <Ranieri_> I'm looking to copy a file, but to a different directory.
[00:43] <Ranieri_> I know the basics of the cp utility, but not sure how to copy the file to my designated directory.
[00:43] <mGuv> Seveas, not sure if what you wanted but: http://pastebin.com/4sv4UZtF
[00:43] <usr13> Ranieri_: man cp
[00:44] <k1l> Ranieri_: cp file /path/to/new/folder/
[00:44] <Seveas> mGuv: not the log, the output of the apt-get command.
[00:44] <Ranieri_> k1l: And it will give it the same name, but in that designated folder?
[00:44] <Seveas> Ranieri_: cp my.file path/to/new/dir/
[00:44] <k1l> Ranieri_: yes
[00:44] <usr13> Ranieri_: It will give it a new name if you tell it to
[00:44] <Seveas> dammit k1l :P
[00:44] <k1l> Ranieri_: if you want to rename (too) use mv.
[00:45] <hipitihop> I'm trying to setup auto hide on my top panel. Looked about google but 14.04 does not seem covered, anyone know how
[00:45] <usr13> cp my.file /path/to/new/dir/  #To leave file name as is
[00:45] <k1l> hipitihop: i dont think that will work with unity
[00:45] <Ranieri_> ^ what if I want it changed?
[00:45] <Seveas> Ranieri_: cp my.file /some/other/dir/new.filename
[00:45] <usr13> cp my.file /path/to/new/dir/New-File-Name  #To use new file name
[00:46] <Ranieri_> jesus, that's pretty easy
[00:46] <Ranieri_> The man pages aren't as nice as you guys
[00:46] <mGuv> Seveas, oh right, my bad, http://pastebin.com/vvJf64cA   that last dialog I can't seem to actually hit that OK and/or it just gets stuck
[00:46] <usr13> Ranieri_: Sure they are, just more detial than you might want at times.
[00:46] <bubbasaures> hipitihop, The gnome shell does and other buntu's just not unity.
[00:47] <usr13> Ranieri_: The man files are your friends.
[00:47] <Ranieri_> usr13: more like, the man files is that friend that is extremely smart, so he explains everything like you have a masters degree in english
[00:48] <nopf> Ranieri_: if this is all new stuff to you, i definitely suggest you always use the 'cp -iv path1 path2' form. even i do it for years now. always -iv ... with cp and mv
[00:48] <Seveas> mGuv: hmm, bizarre. Try purging the packages instead of deleting (apt-get remove --purge). And rm -rf /etc/mysql as well as /var/lib/mysql
[00:48] <mGuv> Seveas, I purged everything before at one point but not in conjuction with removing the dirs, so will try
[00:49] <Ranieri_> nopf: I'll try it, thankz
[00:49] <zykotick9> Seveas: fyi, "apt-get purge foo" is shorter to type ;)
[00:49] <Seveas> mGuv: at this point I'm guessing there's a stale password in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf, and that's easier to fix than explaining how to recover myslq's root password :)
[00:49] <keiran230> Other than /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/network/interfaces.d, if I have a route which is appearing by default and needs to be manually route del'd every time I reboot, where should I be looking to remove the incorrect setting? In RHEL it would be /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-eth*. In ubuntu - I'm not sure.
[00:49] <mGuv> also, after it fails to install
[00:49] <mGuv> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:49] <mGuv> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:49] <mGuv> is there anyway around that, I just sudo reboot >_>
[00:49] <Seveas> zykotick9: 'apt-get purge' is too new for me :)
[00:50] <keiran230> lsof /var/lib/dpkg might tell you what's touching it?
[00:50] <k1l> mGuv: dont open several programs that use the package system
[00:50] <Seveas> mGuv: what terminal do you use?
[00:50] <usr13> mGuv: You more than likely have another app using it.
[00:50] <owen1> i am trying to figure out the keycode of the volume key. xev show me focusout and focusin event but i don't see keycodes - http://paste.ubuntu.com/9184384/
[00:50] <Seveas> or are you not installing with apt-get?
[00:50] <mGuv> I am using apt-get, sshing in from Windows using Putty
[00:50] <Seveas> keiran230: /etc/network/interfaces or in NetworkManager
[00:51] <keiran230> ubuntu server, btw
[00:51] <zykotick9> mGuv: if you _really_ don't have any other package-manager-type software open, or running, see "/msg ubottu aptlock" for info removing the lock.
[00:52] <keiran230> wait a sec I think I know what I effed up.
[00:52] <mGuv> zykotick9, okay thanks. If it helps, it because I had to bail out and force an apt-get install to quit, so chances are, it's probably created a new terminal instance
[00:52] <whodevil> hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a qemu vm. For some reason the graphics are all screwy. I tried changing around the graphics type using the -vga option. Does anyone have any other suggestions I might try? Thanks!
[00:52] <usr13> mGuv: ps aux |grep apt
[00:52] <keiran230> found the typo ._.
[00:52] <keiran230> 'network' instead of 'netmask'
[00:53] <Seveas> keiran230: fail :)
[00:53] <keiran230> <3
[00:53] <keiran230> I have 10 subinterfaces and one had a typo effing up all of them
[00:54] <keiran230> thanks
[00:54] <usr13> What is a "subinterface"?
[00:55] <nopf> whodevil: mostly use '-vga vmware', yes?
[00:55] <paulzz> can I just upload a prebuilt DEB file to a PPA?
[00:56] <usr13> paulzz: If you have access to it, sure.
[00:56] <mGuv> now it just seems frozen on "Setting up mysql-server-5.5 (5.5.40-0ubuntu0.14.04.1) ...
[00:56] <mGuv> "
[00:56] <mGuv> hasn't even asked for a password this time...
[00:56] <usr13> paulzz: ... but not sure I understand your question.
[00:56] <Seveas> usr13: like eth0:1, one way of assigning multiple IP's to an interface
[00:56] <paulzz> usr13: I have a .deb file I've built and want to host it in my PPA
[00:56] <Seveas> paulzz: no. Only source packages.
[00:57] <usr13> Seveas: Oh, so another name for alias
[00:57] <Seveas> mGuv: for how long has it been hanging? It may simply take a while.
[00:57] <paulzz> Seveas: any other hosting or whatever where I can just put deb files?
[00:57] <Seveas> mGuv: open another ssh session and do ps auxf to see what's happening
[00:58] <Seveas> paulzz: you can host it yourself, use reprepro or dpkg-scanpackages to generate a repo
[00:58] <paulzz> Seveas: so then other machines and download and install the deb package?
[00:58] <usr13> Seveas: (never heard it called subinterface...)
[00:59] <mGuv> Seveas, it appears to be waiting on mysql start, the same command I can't get to work either after the botched install
[00:59] <usr13> mGuv: What command?
[00:59] <Seveas> mGuv: hmm, can you pastebin the mysql log?
[01:00] <mGuv> usr13, after the first install went wrong, even if it does 'install' sudo service mysql start never actually does anything and that terminal just waits forever
[01:00] <zyphoid> I'm having an issue with a new install, occasionally the top bar and side bar fail to load, desktop icons still present, alt+t fails to bring up terminal, ctrl+f1 works, reinstalled all unity,compiz,ubuntu-desktop components, restarting lightdm gets me back to login but after login top and side bar vanish again, tried swapping out graphic cards issue remains, changed between drivers, issue still present
[01:00] <Seveas> (/var/log/mysql/error.log)
[01:01] <Seveas> mGuv: and while you're at it, also the output of ps auxf | cat
[01:02] <trwsdfa> #c
[01:03] <mGuv> Seveas, hmm interesting, InnoDB: Error: io_setup() failed with EAGAIN after 5 attempts.
[01:03] <mGuv>  /var/log/mysql/error.log has that
[01:04] <oniongirl> Hello everyone. Just a quick question. Im using Xubuntu and I have been having some problems with my hard disk and im thinking of upgrading to an SSD. My questions is this: What is the best way to make a complete backup of my system? I've spent a lot of time and energy getting everything like I want it and if I get a new HD I dont want to start over from scratch. I'm looking for something that will back up everything and allow me to r
[01:04] <oniongirl> e-install it on the new HD.
[01:05] <k1l> oniongirl: i thought we had the specifics cleared
[01:05] <Seveas> mGuv: is maybe an old mysql instance still running (this is what I suspected when I asked for the ps output)
[01:05] <whodevil> nopf: yeah, that's what I used, for some reason the graphics look all garbled
[01:06] <oniongirl> k1l, i dont think I asked about backups before.
[01:06] <oniongirl> if so I;ve forgotten
[01:06] <mGuv> Seveas, the only other ps to do with mysql is /usr/sbin/mysqld
[01:06] <k1l> oniongirl: i am sorry. i thought that was about the hfs+ again
[01:07] <oniongirl> k1l,  no, I want to back up my entire system so that if/when I upgrade to an SSD I want my system back exactly how it is now down to the wallpapers.
[01:07] <k1l> oniongirl: you can do a full image and put that image back in place after the new hdd is build in. contra: you need 1:1 the space for backup
[01:08] <oniongirl> awesome, so the prog is called Contra?
[01:08] <paulzz> won't that make the sector size the same too, might be a bad idea if its not a good size for ssds
[01:08] <usr13> Seveas: Not sure mGuv understood you.  I think  you meant ps auxf |pastebinit  ?
[01:08] <usr13> Seveas: (You said ps auxf | cat)
[01:09] <k1l> oniongirl: or you "just" copy your /home and /etc to a external drive (which can use filepermissions) and copy them back after you installed the new system
[01:09] <k1l> oniongirl: no, "contra" = downside
[01:09] <k1l> !backup | oniongirl
[01:09] <oniongirl> oh ok. I got it
[01:09] <oniongirl> Thank you!
[01:10] <slowmc> oniongirl : have a look at clonezilla
[01:13] <Seveas> usr13: I meant | cat. It avoids line trimming :)
[01:13] <mGuv> Seveas, this? http://pastebin.com/UH7sGa6x I don't see anything that would cause issues
[01:14] <publishable> News flash:
[01:14] <Seveas> mGuv: how about the mysql log?
[01:14] <publishable> POOP IS FUCKING POOP!
[01:15] <Seveas> that's no news...
[01:15] <BGL> hi, i just finished installing 14.04.1 & would like to access the machine via vnc or rdp, when i run the listening client for remmina, and set it to listening vnc (it says vnci) & port 5900 w/pw i cannot connect to the machine
[01:15] <mGuv> Seveas, this one? http://pastebin.com/S6k41MBg
[01:15] <usr13> Seveas: ps auxf |cat|pastebinit
[01:16] <Seveas> mGuv: yeah that one
[01:16] <Seveas> it has a hint as to what could fix it: InnoDB: You can disable Linux Native AIO by setting innodb_use_native_aio = 0 in my.cnf
[01:18] <Seveas> mGuv: are you on a VPS?
[01:19] <mGuv> Seveas, aye
[01:19] <mGuv> and yeah, putting innodb_use_native_aio = 0 actually lets me start mysql...
[01:19] <usr13> details details ...
[01:19] <Seveas> looks like the VPS provider is stingy with your async I/O allowance. Haven't seen this error before. Thanks for showing me something new :)
[01:19] <mGuv> weirdly, I have another vps with the same people, same plan, that had no issues...
[01:20] <mGuv> sorry had*
[01:20] <mGuv> so I never thought to blame that
[01:20] <usr13> could be different server
[01:21] <mGuv> Seveas, yeah, that's sorted it, just used dpkg-reconfigure to reset the root password, then tested it with mysqladmin -u root -p status
[01:22] <mGuv> and actually got statistics now
[01:22] <mGuv> thanks guys for being paitent, I'm fairly new to running a linux server D:
[01:22] <usr13> BGL: Can you ping it?
[01:22] <BGL> yes
[01:23] <usr13> BGL: "listening client"?
[01:24] <BGL> in remmina i chose vnc listening or whatever it says in the drop down and hit connect and it says it's listening
[01:24] <BGL> i don't have the machine in the same room otherwise i'd say exactly what that drop down option is, but it's the only listening option
[01:24] <usr13> BGL: That's interesting. ("listening")
[01:25] <usr13> BGL: You might try x11vnc and tightvnc client
[01:25] <BGL> it says listening on port 5900 for incoming vnci connection
[01:26] <usr13> BGL: But remmina is a client
[01:26] <BGL> well in the drop down menu options
[01:26] <BGL> hold on
[01:27] <BGL> there is a drop down "vnc incoming connection"
[01:27] <BGL> i'm assuming this is how you would get a vnc client to connect to it..
[01:27] <BGL> it asks for a port username/password
[01:27] <BGL> i hit connect, and then it is "listening on port 5900 for incoming vnci connection"
[01:27] <usr13> BGL: So you have rdesktop on the server and remmina on client side?
[01:28] <BGL> i have ultra vnc on my windows box (& remote desktop if needed) i would like to be able to vnc or rdp into my ubuntu machine
[01:28] <BGL> what do i need to do to accomplish that
[01:28] <usr13> BGL: You might try x11vnc and tightvnc client
[01:29] <BGL> when i went to the software center i didn't even see x11vnc
[01:29] <usr13> BGL: Or just tightvcn both ends
[01:29] <BGL> i can look around though
[01:29] <lotuspsychje> goog morning to all
[01:29] <BGL> i didn't see that either actually heh
[01:29] <BGL> is the search results intentionally limited in the software center or what
[01:29] <usr13> BGL: Maybe it has been removed?
[01:30] <usr13> BGL: But don't think so...
[01:30] <usr13> !info x11vnc | BGL
[01:31] <BGL> ok i see that here i'll try that out thanks
[01:31] <usr13> BGL: There is also tightvncserver and tightvncviewer
[01:31] <usr13> BGL: Ok
[01:32] <lotuspsychje> just be carefull with vnc, as it is very vulnerable
[01:33] <usr13> BGL: There is also x2goclient &  x2goserver
[01:34] <usr13> BGL: Yea, I just use x11vnc and tightvncviewer becasue it is easy.  It is not secure, so don't leave it running while connected to an untrusted network.
[01:35] <zyphoid> sure hope he is connecting to the vps via vpn first and the vnc is for localhost only
[01:35] <lotuspsychje> and never run it while your away :p
[01:36] <usr13> zyphoid: I thought he was on an internal LAN.
[01:36] <usr13> lotuspsychje: You are assuming he is connected to an untrusted network.
[01:37] <BGL> it's just on an internal lan at my house, this x11vnc seems to be working
[01:37] <zyphoid> he said it was a remote vps
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> usr13: vnc can be exploited on many ways
[01:37] <usr13> zyphoid: Oh, I did not catch that.
[01:37] <paulzz> lotuspsychje: how?
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> internal/external
[01:38] <usr13> BGL: Disreguard what I said.  You ar connecting to a vps?
[01:38] <lotuspsychje> paulzz: vnc,ssh,ssl gets hammered every second of the day with bruteforce/scanners
[01:38] <usr13> zyphoid: If he is trying to connect to a VPS, what I suggested will not work anyway.
[01:38] <BGL> i'm simply connecting to a machine that in the back room
[01:39] <paulzz> lotuspsychje: assuming strong passwords that shouldnt be a problem though
[01:39] <BGL> shoudln't be rocket science, not even sure why ubuntu didn't come with the capability packaged with it
[01:39] <BGL> i had it working but just broke it somehow
[01:39] <lotuspsychje> paulzz: how sure are we linux rootkits can bypass stuff these days?
[01:40] <usr13> BGL: Ok, sorry for the confusion, zyphoid jumped to an erroneous conclusion.
[01:40] <usr13> BGL: Then see what is broke.
[01:40] <paulzz> lotuspsychje: if that can easily be bypassed then the same should apply to anything else
[01:41] <usr13> BGL: nmap is your friend
[01:41] <lotuspsychje> paulzz: remember shellshock was just fixxed recently...
[01:41] <BGL> i've got it working but it says it won't save any settings/password cuz it's only for this session, and to run it manually for those options heh
[01:41] <usr13> lotuspsychje: Most of us do not have an outsid IP in the first place, so...
[01:41] <paulzz> lotuspsychje: by that logic you should never run anything externally facing, ever
[01:41] <D41LY5H4D0W> hello
[01:42] <usr13> lotuspsychje: (In reference to VNC being exploited
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> usr13: i know you want to help him, i agree vnc is easy to use, but also a danger
[01:42] <D41LY5H4D0W> how can i find information about my hardware?? i want to know wich is my motherboard
[01:42] <usr13> lotuspsychje: Not so much if you are behind several NAT routers.
[01:42] <BGL> i'll be honest i don't have my patience for linux unfortunately
[01:42] <SomeGuyhere> Wondering if someone can help me with deleting some old kernel files in the /boot folder
[01:42] <Ranieri_> Yo possibly my only friends
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> paulzz: im just looking at facts mate..
[01:43] <Ranieri_> I want to create a tar file because all these files are getting annoying, how do I do that
[01:43] <isaaclw> where's the best place to ask questions about network-manager's openvpn in ubuntu?
[01:43] <usr13> BGL: Then my solutions should work for you.
[01:43] <paulzz> lotuspsychje: so then what would you suggest for this guy?
[01:43] <Ranieri_> isaaclw: #openvpn
[01:43] <D41LY5H4D0W> Hello?
[01:43] <BGL> i got it working until the ubuntu machine re-boots i guess heh, then i have to configure it again
[01:44] <lotuspsychje> paulzz: vnc over ssh or just x11vnc as usr13 suggest is good, but i just warn about vnc dangers
[01:44] <usr13> BGL: script it
[01:45] <D41LY5H4D0W> how can i find information about my hardware?? i want to know wich is my motherboard
[01:45] <usr13> BGL: If you had it working once, just duplicate what you did before and save it in a script.
[01:46] <BGL> that makes no sense to me because i'm used to vnc server software that installs, you set a password, you're done, there's there's nothing more involved to keep it working or saving settings
[01:46] <usr13> BGL: As to your not having patience with Linux;  I should warn you;  If you use Linux long enough, you'll no longer have patience with the other OS.
[01:46] <lotuspsychje> !info dmidecode | D41LY5H4D0W
[01:47] <BGL> i wish lol
[01:47] <explodes> Hello! Why is telepathy-indicator automatically running? Do I need this "service"
[01:47] <isaaclw> Ranieri_: the issue is with the network-manager-openvpn package and the dns tools that involve the "new" way ubuntu 14.04 handles resolv.conf now, though. it seems #openvpn isn't familiar with that.
[01:47] <usr13> BGL: Your wish will soon come true.
[01:47] <BGL> i barely had the patience for getting this to work, ot understanding why it didn't just come with ubuntu, or why ubuntu didn't come with its own functional out of the box
[01:47] <usr13> BGL: For VNC?
[01:48] <paulzz> BGL: Prob because most people wont use it, its a security risk, and it would bloat the iso size
[01:48] <explodes> Also why the fudge is it connecting to the internet.
[01:48] <BGL> usr: really for any remote desktop server capability
[01:49] <paulzz> BGL: X supports remoting
[01:49] <usr13> BGL: I think Ubuntu has rdesktop by default
[01:49] <lotuspsychje> paulzz: checkout fail2ban on ssh, and you will see how much hammering youl get a day
[01:49] <usr13> !info rdesktop | BGL
[01:50] <Bashing-om> someone: Release 14.04, AND not at 100% capacity, -> sudo apt-get autoremove <- now removes the old kernels ( leaving current and one less ) .
[01:51] <BGL> you're right it does, however.. by sheer brilliance it doesn't show up when you search for remote desktop, vnc, or rdp
[01:51] <usr13> BGL: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/rdesktop.list
[01:51] <BGL> only by specific name is it showing up in the search
[01:51] <BGL> that is actually what i used to use
[01:51] <BGL> this is why i say i don't have the patience
[01:51] <usr13> BGL: Are you 14.04?
[01:51] <BGL> yes
[01:51] <BGL> why wouldn't rdesktop be returned under the search for remote desktop, vnc or rdp terms?
[01:52] <usr13> BGL: Well, I dono.  I'm still on 12.04
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> usr13: time to install trusty fresh, its amazing :p
[01:52] <Ranieri_> Can someone help me with the tar utility before I kill myself
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: make your life easy and install rar
[01:53] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: Rar is for grandmothers that can't use the tar utility
[01:53] <usr13> lotuspsychje: Oh I know.  I've installed it a number of times, (for others).  (Just 2 days ago on the last one...)
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: you just wanna tar an archive?
[01:53] <zyphoid> tar -zxvf works for most
[01:53] <Ranieri_> WHAT DO THOSE MEAN
[01:53] <Ranieri_> -zxvf
[01:53] <paulzz> Ranieri_: man tar
[01:53] <Ranieri_> If one more person leads me to the man pages I'm not only killing myself, I'm gonna kill myself, ressurect myself, and kill myself again
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> usr13: same here, many uefi boxes run so fantastic on it
[01:54]  * Ranieri_ goes to man pages
[01:54] <paulzz> Ranieri_: hmm ok, so I'll load the man pages, read what z c v and f mean, then copy paste it to you?
[01:54] <Ranieri_> paulzz: lol
[01:54] <Ranieri_> paulzz: I'm going
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: dont shoot yourself over a man page :p
[01:55] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: Don't worry, making a new "Information System" called Ranieri, that will link you to videos of me taking a shit on a man page while explaining the utility to you properly.
[01:55] <k1l> Ranieri_: any reason why we have to type all that is written in the manpages anyway? :)  if there is something you dont understand you can ask but it doesnt make sense if we just type the manpage again
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: try to keep language familly friendly
[01:56] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: sorry, excuse me
[01:56] <Ranieri_> k1l: Yea, I'll give the man's a try ;)
[01:57] <Ranieri_> k1l: Let me tackle my man page anxiety
[01:57] <Ranieri_> k1l: For example, a utility has commands such as -u, -x, etc right?
[01:58] <Ranieri_> k1l: What about double minus signs  --
[01:58] <Ranieri_> k1l: wtf are those
[01:58] <daftykins> Ranieri_: please clean up after yourself, after each suicide
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: i think you best focus on what your goal is..
[01:58] <zyphoid> -- are for words instead of the single letter version
[01:58] <cynicallemon> Ranieri_: do you have man anxiety?
[01:58] <Ranieri_> OMG zyphoid: THE FIRST PERSON TO HELP ME
[01:58] <linuxmint> Hello, could I get some help using GParted to format my USB. I formated to FAT32, the USB is recognised, but won't open for files to be added to?
[01:58] <Ranieri_> Give zyphoid a metal plz
[01:58] <Ranieri_> cynicallemon: Yes\
[01:59]  * lotuspsychje thought a terminal was inviting
[01:59] <k1l> Ranieri_: please stop that drama. you can ask specific questions and get specific answers. the whole drama only demotivates volunteers and spoils the room for other users who seek for help, thanks
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: what happens when you drag files to usb?
[01:59] <Ranieri_> k1l: Sorry, I'm just pissed
[02:00] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: the files go back to the original location.
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: no errors?
[02:01] <Ranieri_> What does verbosely mean?
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: doublecheck /var/log/syslog or dmesg
[02:01] <Ranieri_> I see it a lot in man pages/programming things/websites/things/things
[02:01] <usr13> Ranieri_: details
[02:01] <zyphoid> ;eve; of detail the program tells you during operation
[02:02] <paulzz> Verbosity is speech or writing which is deemed to use an excess of words. The opposite of verbosity is succinctness, which can be found in plain language (including Plain English), and laconism.
[02:02] <Ranieri_> so when using it in a command, it explains everything or gives you a lot of information?
[02:02] <k1l> more information
[02:03] <Ranieri_> k1l: oh sweet
[02:03] <paulzz> Ranieri_: instead of just saying "Creating archive" it might say "enumerating files" "found X files" "adding file B to archive"
[02:03] <Ranieri_> paulzz: ahhhh
[02:03] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/97TXDPXG
[02:03] <Ranieri_> Thanks k1l and paulzz , you guys are extremely helpful while I struggle through Ubuntu
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: on wich ubuntu are you exactly?
[02:04] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 12.04.
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: fat32 is the default layout on your usb stick?
[02:05] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: yes.
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: did you try ntfs if its possible?
[02:06] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: yes, just tried now using GParted.
[02:06] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: computer might need a reboot, as the USB selection is going funny.
[02:11] <linuxmint> reboot seemed to have fixed the USB issue.
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> !yay | linuxmint
[02:11] <linuxmint> that is, the 5th time a reboot happened.
[02:11] <linuxmint> lucky :-)
[02:12] <Ranieri_> k1l: I'm gonna stop being annoying if you link me to a website that gives me information on utilities, shell programming, and general questions regarding Ubuntu
[02:13] <zyphoid> http://www.google.com
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> !manual | Ranieri_
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> !bash | Ranieri_
[02:14] <Ranieri_> perfect, thanks lotuspsychje
[02:15] <Ranieri_> https://help.ubuntu.com is the official ubuntu webpage?
[02:15] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje, https://help.ubuntu.com is the official ubuntu webpage?
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: try www.ubuntu.com
[02:16] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: kk thx
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: try to investigate yourself a bit now
[02:16] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: I like being hand held into things...
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: well ubuntu is  world you have to experience yourself mate
[02:17] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: that was deep
[02:17]  * Ranieri_ looks outside the window at the stars
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: we showed you the toolz, now explore!
[02:17] <jost> Hi! Since the update to XUbuntu 14.10, Tooltips in firefox are messed up. They appear, but are just black boxes (maybe the font color was just set to black, the background is usually black). It works correctly after I uninstall a plugin and restart firefox with the restart-button that appears afterwards. But after the next reboot the problem reoccurs.
[02:17]  * Ranieri_ smiles, and wipes tear off left cheek
[02:18] <zyphoid> just dont lose that install disk
[02:18] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: I love you </3, but it's time we part ways, while I explore
[02:18]  * Ranieri_ hugs lotuspsychje
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> jost: did you try firefox on another user?
[02:19]  * Ranieri_ gets on sailboat, and drifts away, looking back at lotuspsychje as he waves and puts his arm around his son
[02:19] <jost> lotuspsychje: no
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: plz stop it, keep the channel clean for support only
[02:19]  * Ranieri_ cries
[02:19] <Ranieri_> Ok fine
[02:19] <zyphoid> I'm having an issue with a new install, occasionally the top bar and side bar fail to load, desktop icons still present, alt+t fails to bring up terminal, ctrl+f1 works, reinstalled all unity,compiz,ubuntu-desktop components, restarting lightdm gets me back to login but after login top and side bar vanish again, tried swapping out graphic cards issue remains, changed between drivers, issue still present
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> jost: maybe try just for testing
[02:20] <mxgms> someone wants to test crypto email with me?
[02:20] <jost> lotuspsychje: I will, thanks for the tip
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: what ubuntu version?
[02:20] <zyphoid> 14.10
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: 14.10 has lot of users with screen issues
[02:21] <zyphoid> all nvidia users?
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: all kinds of users, not sure whats happening exactly
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: black screens after login etc
[02:21] <zyphoid> should I go back to 12.04?
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: i suggest 14.04 all the way
[02:22] <paulzz> why not try 14.04
[02:22] <zyphoid> tried 14.04 same issues
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: any ubuntu version that worked well on your machine?
[02:22] <paulzz> hmm maybe a kernel issue then
[02:23] <zyphoid> all prior to the 14 series
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: yeah might be like paulzz suggests
[02:23] <gotcha> hey guys, quick question, if i installed ubuntu server, how can i make sure all default repositories are enabled? im trying to install irssi and it cant find it for some reason
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: what kind of grafix card you havin?
[02:23] <paulzz> gotcha: try apt-get update
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> !repo | gotcha
[02:24] <zyphoid> 550ti, 9800gt,7600
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: thats not an optimus card or something right?
[02:24] <zyphoid> no three modles of nvidia cards
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: you got 3 cards in your pc?
[02:25] <zyphoid> no tried them all, was thinking it was just the 550 then went back the the previous and reinstalled, same issue present on all cards
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: did you install ubuntu with cable and updates enabled during setup?
[02:26] <zyphoid> yes
[02:26] <gotcha> thanks guys
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: fresh or upgrade?
[02:26] <zyphoid> fresh
[02:26] <zyphoid> been working this issue for a week now
[02:27] <zyphoid> stumped so I came here
[02:27] <paulzz> I assume the live cd GUI works?
[02:27] <zyphoid> perfectly
[02:27] <jost> lotuspsychje: thanks for the hint, it works fine with other users
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: i had something similar on a X800 ati once, folowed me on serveral ubuntu versions
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> jost: might have been a profile issue then
[02:28] <paulzz> maybe check that kernel version and gfx driver the live cd is using, then try to grab those
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: maybe also test a xubuntu or something
[02:29] <huchangguo> hello
[02:29] <paulzz> huchangguo: yes indeed
[02:29] <zyphoid> last time I tried xubuntu the vpn functionality was totaly borked
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: no screen issues there?
[02:30] <zyphoid> program issues
[02:30] <zyphoid> like installed programs not mapped correctly
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: maybe 14.++ versions are getting too heavy for your cards?
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: those are rather older cards?
[02:31] <zyphoid> doubt it, back on the 550 atm
[02:31] <zyphoid> and had the issue before I got on here
[02:31] <paulzz> cant be if the live cd works :)
[02:31] <zyphoid> suprised I have stayed here as long as I have actually
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: well thats weird indeed, as i never seen any machine go weird yet on 14.04
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: good idea from paulzz to check the driver loaded in livecd
[02:32] <zyphoid> meneither, tried loading lime but to my suprise I can not longer inject modules
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: i would try 14.04 fresh, and start from there see if you can fix issues
[02:33] <zyphoid> I'll try the livecd drivers in the morning
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: any errors in logs would be usefull also
[02:34] <Ranieri_> How do I finger people?
[02:34] <Ranieri_> finger user?
[02:34] <zyphoid> yeah well been doing full formats during the installs
[02:34] <zyphoid> logs are light
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: well anything related to lightdm or compiz issues might be usefull
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: or problems with card
[02:35] <Pinkamena_D> I use google chrome often, I hav not changed anything recently. Chrome will not launch from the launcher or terminal. Terminal gives no output at all, it just waits forever and never starts. Sudo has the same problem.
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: a nomodeset install could be usefull aswell
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: did you install web version?
[02:36] <Ranieri_> k1l: Run the who utility, and can you explain the 2nd column to me?
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | zyphoid
[02:36] <zyphoid> I'll try those
[02:36] <Pinkamena_D> 'web version'?
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: how did you install chrome?
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: and wich ubuntu version do you have?
[02:37] <Pinkamena_D> god it was a while ago, but I believe I just downloaded the .deb and user dpkg -i
[02:37] <Pinkamena_D> 14.04
[02:37] <linuxmint> thanks for helping with the USB. So, now I'm installed Ubuntu 14.04, but the monitor resolution isn't right after trying all resolution settings, no sound and Wi-Fi won't setup?
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: maybe try a reinstall
[02:38] <Pinkamena_D> I suppose, sucks to lose everything I was working on
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: maybe chromium test
[02:38] <Pinkamena_D> chromium is fine
[02:39] <arun_> hi all
[02:39] <Pinkamena_D> it just heppened that I had everything open in regular chrome =P
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: try creating another user, and start chrome from there, see what happens
[02:39] <Ranieri_> What does :0 or pts/0 mean, and why am I logged in twice?
[02:45] <coax> oh
[02:47] <Psy_Ser> Could I get some help with Notepad++? It's not ubuntu, but I'd appreciate it.
[02:47] <Ranieri_> Psy_Ser: What's up?
[02:47] <Pinkamena_D> lotuspsychje, I had hit the return key on the purge command before I had time to try your suggestion, but I am happy to report that the reinstall worked without losing my data and work. Thanks for trying to help me!
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Pinkamena_D
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> Psy_Ser: ubuntu support only here mate
[02:47] <linuxmint> Can I get some support for an Ubuntu 14.04 related issue. Monitor reslution won't work after trying each one.
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: did you check your additional drivers section?
[02:48] <Psy_Ser> I'm trying to reconfigure key designations for a game. I just need to know how to write for the keys z and x.
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> Psy_Ser: try ##windows for win software
[02:49] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: not sure, as I can't see my notes on how to configure monitors. Will try to access it.
[02:49] <Psy_Ser> XD That'll help, too.
[02:49] <Psy_Ser> Ty
[02:51] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: ok, Drivers seem to be installing.
[02:53] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: Driver Manager seemed to have a default: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau. I changed this to nvidia-331 (recommended).
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: maybe better luck with monitor after eboot on that driver
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> reboot
[02:54] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: ok, waiting for Applying changes... to complete.
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: did you install ubuntu with ethernet cable/updates during install?
[02:55] <arun_> has anyone here used deepin desktop ?
[02:56] <squirtle_51> Hello, everybody.
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> arun_: try #deepin, ive read something about it on OMGubuntu recently
[02:56] <ncarrillo> hi
[02:56] <jhelbling> hellooo
[02:57] <squirtle_51> Does anybody know rsync and cron well enough to tell me if a command will sync folders on two PCs on an hourly basis?
[02:57] <KeithIMyers> How are you planning to sync the files, scp?
[02:58] <squirtle_51> rsync and ssh
[02:58] <KeithIMyers> Or rsync
[02:58] <KeithIMyers> It should be easy, setup key based logins between the 2 boxes and add this cron
[02:59] <squirtle_51> I want to know if the rsync command will work before I add it to cron. And then run ssh-keygen?
[03:00] <KeithIMyers> rsync -avz /home/username/folder_to_sync root@999.999.999.999:/home/username/folder_to_sync
[03:00] <daftykins> squirtle_51: you test with practice, not asking someone to look at a command
[03:00] <Ben64> root? root is usually disabled and that won't work
[03:00] <squirtle_51> daftykins: Good point.
[03:00] <arun_> lotuspsychje: haven't u installed its de ?
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> arun_: no im on unity
[03:01] <KeithIMyers> It should as long as you setup the ssh keys under the user that you are running the crontab from. You also need to have write access to the destination folder or enable the root account
[03:01] <arun_> lotuspsychje: unity sucks for me :D
[03:02] <KeithIMyers> You can use ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id to easily setup key based authentication
[03:02] <KeithIMyers> Unity is not bad but I am a Gnome user
[03:03] <jhelbling> arun_, old laptop?
[03:03] <squirtle_51> Thanks. If I use the --relative command with rsync, I can sync ~/foo on source with ~/foo on the destination and ~/bar on source with ~/bar on the destination, correct?
[03:03] <squirtle_51> In the same command, I that is.
[03:05] <Ben64> squirtle_51: you should really be using full paths
[03:06] <KeithIMyers> To be honest, I have not played with --relative but full paths are generally considered to be best
[03:06] <KeithIMyers> What Ben64 said
[03:06] <arunpyasi> nope, I don't really like it UI
[03:06] <arunpyasi> jhelbling: ^^
[03:09] <Ranieri_> Where would I find the source code for the tar utility?
[03:09] <lunawalt> @search The Art of Asking
[03:09] <unopaste> lunawalt: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
[03:10] <linuxmint> Would I be able to get some help in making sound work on Ubuntu 14.04 with an HDMI cable please?
[03:10] <Ben64> linuxmint: looks like you
[03:10] <Ben64> 're on linux mint, not ubuntu
[03:11] <linuxmint> Ben64: good one. Mint uses Ubuntu.
[03:11] <jhelbling> Ranieri_, apt-get source tar
[03:11] <linuxmint> Anyways, I'll solve on my own. Thanks anyway.
[03:11] <Ranieri_> jhelbling: Thank you handsome
[03:11] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint - Have you checked the sound settings to see if the HDMI audio shows up there
[03:11] <KeithIMyers> Arg, he left
[03:11] <Ben64> KeithIMyers: thats fine, mint isn't supported here anyway
[03:12] <Ranieri_> jhelbling: Doesn't work, says something about git and version control
[03:12] <jhelbling> ?
[03:13] <Ben64> Ranieri_: that command downloads the source and puts it in the current directory
[03:19] <Ranieri_> Ben64: No, it's an error message
[03:19] <Ben64> Ranieri_: pastebin it
[03:19] <Ranieri_> KK
[03:20] <Ranieri_> Ben64: How do you copy and paste txt from the shell?
[03:20] <Ben64> ctrl+shift+c
[03:20] <Ranieri_> Ahh kk
[03:21] <Ranieri_> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/tp5dVTFh
[03:21] <Ranieri_> Ben64: I even gave you the ls command to show it's not in wd
[03:22] <Ben64> Ranieri_: seems like you have some weird stuff going on with your repositories
[03:22] <Ranieri_> What are these "repositories" everyone talks about.
[03:22] <Ben64> !repository
[03:23] <Ranieri_> Thank you
[03:24] <jhelbling> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/tar/tar-latest.shar.gz
[03:24] <jhelbling> ups
[03:24] <KeithIMyers> You can just do a "git clone git://git.gag.com/debian/tar"
[03:25] <jhelbling> wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/tar/tar-latest.tar.gz
[03:25] <Ranieri_> Ben64: Reading the article, basically .rpm, etc is an archive for downloading a particular file(s).
[03:25] <Ben64> rpm is for redhat based distros
[03:26] <Ranieri_> Why do different distros need different "packaging schemes"
[03:26] <Ben64> different ways of doing stuff
[03:26] <Ranieri_> Ben64: -___-
[03:27] <KeithIMyers> Ranieri_ - There are benefits and shortfalls to each packaging scheme. Ubuntu uses debian packages which are simple and work well. RPM packages are also just as good but have some differences. Ubuntu is also moving towards "click packages" in the future as it has a few security benefits
[03:28] <Ranieri_> KeithIMyers: ahh cool, Thanks :D
[03:28] <KeithIMyers> Click Packages wont completely overtake deb packages on ubuntu but will be the perfered method
[03:28] <anta-pala> всем привет!
[03:28] <Ranieri_> KeithIMyers: What exactly is a deb package? A collection of files?
[03:29] <Ranieri_> KeithIMyers: or is it more similar to a .msi file?
[03:29] <Ranieri_> !Package | Ranieri_
[03:30] <KeithIMyers> @Ranieri_ basically similar to a msi in principle. A deb package is a archive of files and binaries along with a few post and pre-install scripts.
[03:30] <Ranieri_> KeithIMyers: ah I c
[03:34] <Ranieri_> KeithIMyers: can you answer an unrelated question?
[03:35] <SchrodingersScat> !ask
[03:38] <nOTewARe2> I have a WD mybook live cloud drive and I was wondering if there is software for ubuntu? I see windows and mac.
[03:40] <KeithIMyers> nOTewARe2 - not that I know of. Does yours have the option to activate a FTP server? I have a WD Cloud Router with a 1TB drive on it and use FTP to access the content
[03:45] <nOTewARe2> KeithIMyers: yes it does have FTP.
[03:45] <SchrodingersScat> should be able to access that several different ways then, can probably add it through nautilus
[03:46] <KeithIMyers> @nOTewARe2 - Great, you can also use CIFS as well using "sudo mount.cifs //ip.address.of.mybook/public /mnt -o username=admin,password=admin_passwd_on_mybook "
[03:46] <KeithIMyers> But FTP is by far easier to setup
[03:47] <KeithIMyers> Use Nautilus to mount it and save it as a bookmark to easily re-connect to it between sessions
[03:48] <KeithIMyers> Although not wise, you can even setup something like port forwarding and accessing the MyBook FTP service remotely if you run a DynDNS service. It would be best to setup a VPN or SSH tunnel if you need remote access
[03:51] <Jarvix> how do you add a function/ command entry to the right-click context menu?
[03:52] <KeithIMyers> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NautilusScriptsHowto
[03:52] <k2gremlin> Anyone here familiar with Plex on Ubuntu Server?
[03:52] <Kotoro> odd, for some reason fetch in kdevelop on ubuntu is only showing CVS, no subversion, no github, no git...
[03:52] <Jarvix> ty KeithIMyers
[03:52] <KeithIMyers> @k2gremlin - I dabbled with Plex a bit in the past, cast say I am an expert
[03:53] <Kotoro> its v4.7 those options ought to be available...
[03:53] <k2gremlin> KeithIMyers, I have it installed and it says its running but I cant web to it from my PC :(
[03:53] <nOTewARe2> thanks guy for the answers. That will give me something to work on.
[03:53] <k2gremlin> Its running on a VM right now
[03:54] <KeithIMyers> @Kotoro - Do you have git installed - sudo apt-get install git git-core gitk git-el git-gui git-sh git-stuff gitg
[03:54] <k2gremlin> tried http://<ip>:32400/web but no go... <ip> is IP of the VM and is reachable
[03:54] <Prezident> How do i remove dead screens from screen -ls?
[03:55] <KeithIMyers> @k2gremlin is the VM local or hosted remotely (a VPS from a provider)?
[03:55] <DFeniks> maybe offtopic but is there any browser for old pc? something more advanced then lynx (or was it linx?) but not so heavy as firefox?
[03:56] <Prezident> try luakit DFeniks
[03:56] <KeithIMyers> @DFeniks how old?
[03:56] <KeithIMyers> Text based?
[03:56] <k2gremlin> local.... esx is .21 and VM is .22
[03:56] <Kotoro> there is no package git-stuff
[03:56] <k2gremlin> I plan on intergrating my cisco switches later with seperate vlans and such.  Just want to get the basic install in
[03:56] <DFeniks> 800mhz processor 512 ram
[03:57] <DFeniks> 512mb
[03:57] <Kotoro> installing the rest
[03:57] <KeithIMyers> k2gremlin - Have you made sure that the plex server is running
[03:57] <Kotoro> had just regular git package and its dependencies
[03:57] <KeithIMyers> @Kotoro - once done, re-install KDevelop
[03:58] <ubuntuaddicted> why is windows 7 so dumb? it won't mount an NFS share
[03:58] <k2gremlin> KeithIMyers, 1 moment, updating something :P CLI hogged up lol
[03:58] <Jarvix> any open source lynda.com how to equivalent? (new ubuntu user)
[03:59] <KeithIMyers> @DFenkis - You could try Midori, It is the browser of choice for the Raspberry Pi which has similar sppecs
[04:00] <Prezident> Aha, screen -wipe id worked fine :)
[04:00] <Kotoro> didn't do anything CVS is still the only option listed
[04:00] <k2gremlin> KeithIMyers, restarted the service... running now :) Able to web lol
[04:00] <Kotoro> other than "from file system"
[04:00] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - StackExchange / UbuntuAnswers are the first that come to bind. Not as good but it works
[04:00] <KeithIMyers> @k2gremlin - I love it when it is that easy :)
[04:00] <ubuntuaddicted> Jarvix, what are you looking for?
[04:01] <ubuntuaddicted> Jarvix, a tutorial for what exactly?
[04:01] <k2gremlin> Ok next question KeithIMyers, I have my external connected to my main PC for now.. going to dedicated a HDD to the server next weekend. Is there anyway to see that drive over the network to the Plex server?
[04:01] <Jarvix> i just want to get familiar with the OS and i want to know how i can mold the experience to fit me
[04:01] <Jarvix> and be stable at the same time
[04:01] <ubuntuaddicted> Jarvix, ubuntuforums.org is a great resource, as well as #ubuntu on freenode
[04:02] <Kotoro> KeithIMyers its still only listing the CVS and filesystem options...
[04:02] <ubuntuaddicted> k2gremlin, you need to share it over SMB or NFS
[04:02] <KeithIMyers> @k2gremlin - Thats a fun one. It is possible but not the easiest thing to do in VMWare
[04:02] <k2gremlin> lmfao
[04:02] <Jarvix> other than forum/IRC, are there any informative sites that would essentially be ubuntu manuals, etcc
[04:02] <ubuntuaddicted> k2gremlin, unless i jumped in the conversation late. sorry
[04:03] <Kotoro> before i updated to unicorn from trusty it was at least showing github, i just wanted regular git
[04:03] <k2gremlin> I just tried adding the network path \\PCNAME\G\Movies didnt work haha
[04:03] <KeithIMyers> @k2gremlin you mount it on the host and setup a share. Use ssh-fs, SMB or NFS to moun
[04:03] <ubuntuaddicted> Jarvix, man foo
[04:03] <Kotoro> now neither are there
[04:03] <Kotoro> even though the version incremented to 4.7 from 4.6....
[04:03] <Jarvix> @ubuntu... man foo from cmd line?
[04:03] <k2gremlin> Ok ill look into that tomorrow. Thanks for the help
[04:03] <KeithIMyers> Kotoro - Let me see what I can find. I am not really a fan of KDevelop and have not used it
[04:04] <k2gremlin> goal tonight was to get the base plex installed :P
[04:04] <Kotoro> I primarily use fedora and i'm trying to help my friend set up the same environment for linux XD
[04:04] <KeithIMyers> I know git support was added to 4.1 but I have not used it
[04:04] <Jarvix> says no entry for man foo..so im guessing i dl it
[04:04] <Kotoro> and he uses ubuntu
[04:05] <Kotoro> mainly because its friendly to amd drivers
[04:05] <KeithIMyers> What version of KDevelop are you running again?
[04:05] <Kotoro> plugin was deactivated by default
[04:05] <Kotoro> that might fix it
[04:06] <Kotoro> it did
[04:06] <Kotoro> good
[04:06] <Jarvix> cant install it... what am i missing?
[04:06] <Kotoro> it was 4.7 Keith :P
[04:07] <KeithIMyers> Ahh, not sure why it was disabled but glad to hear you see it now
[04:09] <Jarvix> http://pastebin.com/3eFgMRYm
[04:10] <k0nichiwa> transmission daemon config file i suspect download speed set to 0 would be unlimited
[04:10] <k0nichiwa> but why dont they document that in the docs ?  for fcks sake
[04:11] <k0nichiwa> does anyone know if this is the case ?
[04:11] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - Try something like man ssh
[04:12] <KeithIMyers> k0nichiwa - 0 is unlimited
[04:12] <k0nichiwa> thanks
[04:12] <KeithIMyers> NP
[04:12] <k0nichiwa> why dont they say that in the docs for the params ?
[04:12] <Jarvix> no go
[04:13] <k0nichiwa> its crazy .. who in their right mind would doucment that param w/o saying 0 is unlimited
[04:13] <KeithIMyers> @k0nichiwa - I believe it was on the GUI
[04:13] <KeithIMyers> @k0nichiwa - I believe it was on the GUI
[04:13] <k0nichiwa> oh wait there is anothe param, enabled
[04:13] <k0nichiwa> so it doesnt even matter
[04:13] <k0nichiwa> hah
[04:13] <Jarvix> how do you pull up the man contents?
[04:13] <k0nichiwa> i should have read the next line
[04:14] <Blaster> What's the best FS type for a USB drive for sharing files with Windows?
[04:14] <Blaster> NTFS?
[04:15] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - The man contents are not the easiest thing to browse
[04:15] <Jarvix> im unable to pull up a single page. where can i find a list of man cmds
[04:15] <Blaster> Nevermind, rhetorical question.
[04:15] <KeithIMyers> @Blaster - Fat32 is still the best unless you need to share large files. NTFS sometimes likes to act funny
[04:16] <Blaster> 500mb archives.
[04:16] <Blaster> Does that indicate a large file to you?
[04:17] <KeithIMyers> @Blaster - No, Fat32 does not work well when files get around 3.4 GB
[04:17] <linuxmint> Any suggestions on Ubuntu 14.04 sound. I unplug the HDMI cable and plug the HDMI cable in and no sound?
[04:17] <Blaster> KeithIMyers: What about 6 archives totaling 3.4 GB?  And what's so special about that number?
[04:18] <Jarvix> anyone know of a free equivalent to this::  http://goo.gl/9o3JvV
[04:18] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - man is a bit strange when it comes to indexing. There is no "Table of Contents" - All man pages are stored at /usr/share/man
[04:18] <k0nichiwa> transmission config has pper port 51413
[04:18] <KeithIMyers> @Blaster - Fat32 has a limit of 3.8 GB
[04:18] <k0nichiwa> thats not a typical bittorrent port i dont think
[04:18] <Blaster> KeithIMyers, maybe the bugs you've experienced with NTFS have been when ms-dos wasn't the partition table format.
[04:19] <Jarvix> KeithIMyers, did you catch the link i put up?
[04:19] <owen1> i can't shutdown my machine with 'sudo halt'. it never turned off so my only way is the power button. any idea where to start my investigation?
[04:19] <KeithIMyers> @ Blaster - I have tried with msdos. The problem comes in when the drive is not unmounted properly, you need to run a windows checkdisk on the drive before Linux will mount it
[04:19] <owen1> (ubuntu 14.10 on carbon x1 2nd gen)
[04:19] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - Yes. One moment
[04:20] <Jarvix> KeithIMyers, ty, i dont mean to come off rude
[04:20] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint - Check the sound menu in the control panel and see if you have the HDMI device listed there
[04:20] <Blaster> KeithIMyers, thanks.
[04:20] <k0nichiwa> bittorent uses 6881–6990 or something
[04:20] <owen1> also hibernation doesn't work. any tips would be appreciated.
[04:21] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: yes, Sound Preferences shows HDMI there.
[04:21] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: I disabled Sound on BIOS, to avoid any MOBO sound conflict.
[04:21] <KeithIMyers> Jarvix - It seems that you are looking for some getting started tutorials. Let me see what I can find
[04:21] <KeithIMyers> @Linuxmint - Do you have the HDMI device selected? If so, sound should work without issue
[04:23] <KeithIMyers> BRB, need to plug in my laptop
[04:23] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: the Analogue is highlighted. I highlight the HDMI and Close Sound Prferrences, but when I go back, the Analogue is highlighted? Not sure if that is a problem for the Hardware tab. The Output tab has the HDMI selected.
[04:24] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: When sound did work on the new install about 1 hour ago, I unplugged the HDMI cable and when I plugged the HDMI cable in again, I noticed the Sound Preferences Output tab selected Analogue. I changed to HDMI, but no sound.
[04:25] <Jarvix> KeithIMyers, ty. i apologize that i didnt mention that at the first, lol.
[04:27] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint - That is strange, you should be able to simply select it and have it work
[04:27] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - Still looking through YouTube to see if there are any good ones. Many of the ones I am seeing are ok but not complete
[04:27] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: yes, noone can fix it. It just works after a fresh install, but when unplugging and pluggin HDI cable in, sound stops?
[04:28] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: I need to unplug/plug in, as I need Ethernet connection to download initial install updates to make monitor, Wi-Fi work.
[04:29] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: then I can move computer to spot where Wi-Fi is, but sound breaks.
[04:29] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint, that is strange. I dont use HDMI for sound with the exception of putting an emulator on the TV to play a game a few months ago, I have not done it since
[04:29] <linuxmint> Thanks, have to go now. No sound, so will try again in a few weeks.
[04:30] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint - I would put something in the forums if I were you. Maybe someone has come across this before
[04:30] <Jarvix> thank you, KeithIMyers ... do you know of any comprehensive written sources?
[04:30] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: thanks, yes, I have tried everything. Forums, chat, but noone can fixit.
[04:31] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=178564
[04:31] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint - Have you tried to use the Ubuntu Forums?
[04:32] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: no, I though the Ubuntu forums might be reticent.
[04:33] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint - While "Mint" distros are not officially supported on the ubuntu forums, it never hurts to ask as Mint is built from the Ubuntu source tree
[04:34] <ChogyDan> Jarvix: there was an ubuntu manual
[04:34] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - https://ubuntu-manual.org/ this seems to be good
[04:41] <k0nichiwa> can ssh tunnelling work in such a way -- i direct brwoer to localhost:2222 and it tunnels to my rmobe server as localhost there ?
[04:41] <zgn> hey guys! my graphics card hdmi output is not fitting on my tv, the display is too big, what do i do?!?!
[04:41] <k0nichiwa> i dont have ssl set up for my server and i need to do some config by http , dont want it in the clear
[04:44] <zgn> hey guys! my graphics card hdmi output is not fitting on my tv, the display is too big, what do i do?!?!
[04:44] <metamp> what's the resolution of the tv ?
[04:44] <KeithIMyers> k0nichiwa - What service are you trying to tunnel?
[04:45] <KeithIMyers> @zgn - Search in the Dash for "Displays" and you can adjust the display settings there
[04:45] <k0nichiwa> http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/ssh-tunnel.html
[04:45] <k0nichiwa> that may be what i want .. looks like it
[04:45] <k0nichiwa> that should let me do http://localhost:2000 and have it go to port 80 on my server
[04:45] <k0nichiwa> so its encrypted
[04:46] <k0nichiwa> ha !! it worked !!!!!!
[04:46] <KeithIMyers> @k0nichiwa - That guide looks like it will accomplish exactly what you are wanting
[04:46] <k0nichiwa> wow that was eaier than i expected
[04:47] <k0nichiwa> great im going to use phpmyadmin to set up may database
[04:47] <k0nichiwa> and i realied i was about to use the root passwd w/o encryptin
[04:47] <KeithIMyers> @k0nichiwa - Pro Tip : Look at "autossh", it will do the same thing as "ssh" but rebuild the tunnel if it goes down for any reason
[04:48] <KeithIMyers> If you have that with ssh key auth, it is seamless to you
[04:49] <SchrodingersScat> !info mosh
[04:49] <k0nichiwa> what i fi want to use my server as a proxy
[04:49] <SchrodingersScat> man ssh
[04:49] <SchrodingersScat> look for tunnels
[04:49] <k0nichiwa> is there a way to direct to a port that then reflects back out as port 80 to the outside ?
[04:49] <cynixx3> look at tinyproxy
[04:49] <k0nichiwa> just using ssh i mean ?
[04:50] <k0nichiwa> i gues you need a proxy sevice running on the server
[04:50] <KeithIMyers> To tunnel everything through ssh? Look at sshuttke
[04:50] <KeithIMyers> sshuttle does not need a proxy on the remote server
[04:50] <KeithIMyers> I use it when I am on public WiFi to encrypt all traffic
[04:50] <SchrodingersScat> k0nichiwa: you can also have ssh link ports, there's many options
[04:51] <k0nichiwa> thanks i copied all this to notes to look at later
[04:56] <Jarvix> KeithIMyers, ChogyDan, thank you for the help. i appreciate it
[04:56] <KeithIMyers> NP Jarvix
[05:16] <Ranieri_> Okay, I have a friend that wants Ubuntu
[05:16] <Ranieri_> How do I put the "ubuntu image" onto a DVD
[05:17] <bynarie> what OS are you on now>?
[05:18] <Jarvix> where can i find GTK themes compatible with ubuntu 14.04?
[05:23] <xangua> gnome-look.org Jarvix
[05:24] <Jarvix> ty xangua , what version gtk ships with 14.04?
[05:25] <Ranieri_> What's an ISO image?
[05:27] <bynarie> Ranieri_, it is basically a zip file containing an operating system installation
[05:27] <bynarie> you usually burn isos to cds or to usb flash drive
[05:28] <bynarie> ok
[05:28] <Ranieri_> Yea, giving it the prefix "live"
[05:29] <Ranieri_> So /dev/sdc is a physical hard drive?
[05:31] <Ranieri_> How is a Windows partition different then a "Linux" or w/e partition
[05:31] <bynarie> /dev/sdc is a physical device yes, but i dont know for sure if its a HD or not.. depends on how many hds you have... you're first HD would be /dev/sda
[05:31] <__john_doe__> morning guys, can someone can someone tell me if there's a way to fix screen lock problem on ubuntu 14.04 gnome session flashback?
[05:31] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Isn't that paradoxical?
[05:31] <bynarie> no
[05:32] <Ranieri_> bynarie: How? The Whole filesystem itself is your hdd, then you have a directory for it?
[05:33] <bynarie> in unix, you have partitions(/dev/sda, /dev/sdb/ sdc/ sdd etc...) but its not a folder
[05:33] <DeaDSouL> hi
[05:33] <bynarie> for example.. i have 2 HD... the first is /dev/sda, second is /dev/sdb
[05:33] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Yes, it is
[05:33] <Ranieri_> ls /dev/sda
[05:33] <Ranieri_> It's a folder alright.
[05:33] <bynarie> when i plug a flash drive in, it is /dev/sdc
[05:34] <cynixx3> Less a folder than the root directory of your hard drive.
[05:34] <Ranieri_> Yes, that makes sense
[05:34] <Ranieri_> Plugging in a flash drive makes sense, because you can access it's contents at /dev/whatever
[05:34] <bynarie> it APPEARS to be a folder, but its really not
[05:34] <bluethundr> hey all.. what's the ubuntu package equivalent to RedHat / CentOS "devel packages" ?
[05:34] <Ranieri_> bynarie: I don't follow you.
[05:34] <bynarie> well you access the flash drive wherever the mount point is
[05:35] <bluethundr> for instance what would the apt-get equivalent be of yum install openssh-devel
[05:35] <bynarie> ok.... right now i have /dev/sdb mounted at "/"
[05:35] <cynixx3> bluethundr, have you looked at the extras repository?
[05:35] <Ranieri_> bynarie: OHHH
[05:35] <bluethundr> cynixx3: not yet
[05:36] <bynarie> you could mount a flash drive like so "sudo mount /dev/sdc /home/bynarie/flash"
[05:36] <DeaDSouL> the default behaviour in my ubuntu for dual monitors, is showing them next to each other... how can I change it to make it cloning (mirror) ?
[05:36] <Ranieri_> bynarie: You mount HDD's/Flash Drives/whatever at specific directories?
[05:36] <bynarie> yep
[05:36] <Ranieri_> ahhh
[05:36] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Cool xD
[05:36] <bynarie> most devices are auto mounted
[05:37] <bynarie> but if you manually mount somethin, you have to make a dir for it first... "mkdir /home/bynarie/flash"
[05:37] <bynarie> then mount it
[05:37] <Ranieri_> ^ :O
[05:37] <Ranieri_> That makes sense
[05:37] <bynarie> when i was first new to linux, it took me a while to understand the whole /dev/sda sdb thing
[05:37] <Ranieri_> But, when it comes to partitioning and filesystems (Fat, ext2, etc) it starts to stop making sense.
[05:38] <Ranieri_> bynarie: I'm in your shoes
[05:38] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Your past shoes.
[05:38] <bynarie> well, windows is usually ntfs or fat32
[05:38] <bynarie> linux = ext2/3/4
[05:38] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Okay, so it's a particular way the HDD saves data structures
[05:38] <Ranieri_> ?
[05:38] <bynarie> honestly, i dont know
[05:39] <Ranieri_> bynarie: lol
[05:39] <bynarie> haha
[05:39] <Ben64> Ranieri_: its an operating system thing
[05:39] <Ben64> hard drive doesn't know or care about filesystems, it just does 0's and 1's
[05:39] <bynarie> but i know that windows cant normally access ext4 filesystems without special software
[05:39] <bynarie> but linux CAN access ntfs and fat32
[05:40] <Ranieri_> bynarie: HAHAHAHAHAHA 1 - 0 for Linux
[05:40] <DeaDSouL> anyone please?
[05:40] <bynarie> exactly
[05:40] <bynarie> im sick of windows
[05:40] <bynarie> its slow
[05:40] <Ranieri_> DeaDSouL: Repeat question, we were talking about filesystems and what not
[05:40] <cynixx3> Sorry DeaDSouL I do not know much about multiple monitors.
[05:40] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Has it's merit... .NET framework is crazy
[05:41] <bynarie> yes unfortunately windows is much neccessary
[05:41] <Ranieri_> ^ yup
[05:42] <bynarie> actually, .NET is my programming strength.. c#
[05:42] <cynixx3> is windows really necessary or just a terrible roach that wont die?
[05:42] <Ranieri_> Nice, how does that work since your on ubuntu?
[05:42] <bynarie> dual boot
[05:42] <Ranieri_> bynarie: oh lmao
[05:42] <bynarie> well, more like quadruple boot
[05:43] <bynarie> ubuntu, linux mint, windows, freebsd
[05:43] <bynarie> hah
[05:43] <Ranieri_> LOLOL
[05:44] <Ranieri_> Windows 7?
[05:44] <bynarie> 8.1
[05:44] <Ranieri_> ew
[05:44] <bynarie> i tried the new windows 10 dev preview
[05:44] <bynarie> its junk
[05:44] <DeaDSouL> I'm pluging hdmi from my tv to my laptop.. and create a new user account using xbmc-session... what I want is, once I boot the system, it should mirror the laptop-display, even when I logged-in
[05:45] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Windows is cursed... every other OS is good
[05:45] <bynarie> i agree
[05:45] <Ranieri_> bynarie: lol
[05:45] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, are you using gnome or kde?
[05:46] <DeaDSouL> sorry... let me say it again... I'm connecting my laptop to my tv via hdmi, the system has a dedicated user for the xbmc app and session... how can I make the tv mirrors what the laptop shows, and turning off the laptop display ?
[05:46] <vicente> hello
[05:47] <DeaDSouL> ubuntu unity
[05:48] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, what brand graphics card do you have?
[05:48] <bynarie> omg unity
[05:48] <bynarie> i hate unity
[05:48] <cynixx3> aka gnome
[05:49] <bynarie> gnome3
[05:49] <bynarie> yea
[05:49] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, do you know what kind of graphics card your running?
[05:49] <DeaDSouL> ati
[05:49] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: ati
[05:50] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, have you installed the radeon graphics card driver?
[05:52] <Ranieri_> cynixx3: Closed-source drivers?
[05:53] <Ranieri_> cynixx3: I thought you had to program them in C yourself
[05:55] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: yes I did... well, I have 2 account on that system, first one uses unity, and I can set it up from the gnome-control-center... but the second account uses the xbmc-standalone session.. so,,, I copied the ~/.config/monitors.xml from the first account to the second and changed the permissions... but still didn't work... so, I was wondering which file in /etc/ I should
[05:55] <DeaDSouL> modify to make it mirrors the display as default behaviour ?
[05:56] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, one moment let me do a little research.
[05:58] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: sure
[06:03] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, I remember editing my monitor settings but I am unable to find the file I used when I did so. I am still looking but its not looking good.
[06:04] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: thanks man i really appreciate your help :)
[06:07] <Bashing-om> cynixx3: DeaDSouL :: Maybe /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the file you have in mind ? - If it exists .
[06:07] <bynarie> i thought they(who?) got rid of the xorg.conf file
[06:08] <bynarie> anyone in here successfully installed plasma5 on xubuntu ?
[06:09] <Bashing-om> bynarie: No, just if DKMS is in effect the file is not required, But if it exists it will be honored .
[06:09] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: no it doesn't
[06:09] <OerHeks> lol bynarie, plasma5 is for KDE
[06:09] <bynarie> yea i know
[06:09] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: there is file called xorg.conf.original-0, has "# NOXORGCONFEXISTED: No X.org configuration file existed when this backup was created."
[06:09] <bynarie> i wanted to test out plasma5 tho
[06:10] <cynixx3> So the xorg.conf has been replaced by another conf file.
[06:11] <cynixx3> or was it just removed bynarie?
[06:11] <bynarie> what? the xorg.conf file? mine has never existed
[06:12] <OerHeks> xorg.conf is not there by default
[06:13] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, check out this page: http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=174854
[06:15] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: sure, I will... thanks
[06:30] <WyZeGuY> hi i'm here asking a stupid basic question that i'm sure everyone else in here besides myself knows. i have an asus q502la, which from what i've been able to gather after crap tons of research and constantly losing focus, has an intel 7260 series wifi card that isn't preloaded with the ubuntu installation. how to i install the driver, or patch it if need be?
[06:32] <cynixx3> its unusual that the generic driver is not working for your wifi card.
[06:33] <WyZeGuY> that's what i thought too. it was the featured laptop at best buy, which i figured meant it was popular, which i in turn figured someone would have made a driver for it, but maybe i'm a horrible googler
[06:33] <cynixx3> Are you sure the wifi card is on?
[06:33] <WyZeGuY> spent about 4 hours last night, and several hours tonight looking up how to do this. i'm empty-handed, and only just now thought, well why don't i ask irc
[06:34] <cynixx3> There may be a Fn + F3 key combo that would cycle the power of your card.
[06:34] <WyZeGuY> i didn't specifically turn it off. it had windows on it prior, and wifi was working. do i have to manually turn it on to use it?
[06:34] <WyZeGuY> ok i'll check
[06:36] <WyZeGuY> i'm trying all the Fn combinations, and it's not doing anything. the icon at the top right says "Enable Networking" and it's checked
[06:37] <cynixx3> Is there an Enable WiFi option?
[06:37] <WyZeGuY> no
[06:37] <cynixx3> :(
[06:37] <WyZeGuY> i just went to edit connections, and eternet shows up, but not wifi
[06:40] <cynixx3> open a terminal and try iwconfig
[06:40] <cynixx3> bltldhvkjlgubkkfjnjcuncrlriic
[06:41] <WyZeGuY> it says, "eth0 no wireless extensions. lo no wireless extensions."
[06:42] <cynixx3> okay, I am not sure what you have run across in your research but you may want to give this page a try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide/Drivers
[06:42] <cynixx3> It sounds like you may be missing your generic driver.
[06:43] <bubbasaures> page after page on that wifi at askubuntu
[06:47] <_unreal_> WyZeGuY, lspci |grep wireless
[06:48] <WyZeGuY> Intel wireless 7260 [8086:08b1] .. i'm looking through that guide now
[06:48] <_unreal_> err just lspci
[06:56] <maciwl> hi
[06:56] <WyZeGuY> hi
[06:56] <maciwl> does anyone know whats up if ifconfig wlan0 still shows a connected interface but iwconfig wlan0 shows that it's not associated
[06:57] <WyZeGuY> for wifi? that's what i'm trying to figure out too
[06:58] <maciwl> yeah for wifi
[06:58] <maciwl> mine connects for a bit then just stops working all together
[06:58] <WyZeGuY> oh shit i can't even get the right driver. you're further along than me
[06:58] <maciwl> i'm using the intel iwlwifi driver
[06:59] <WyZeGuY> i'm supposed to be using that. 7260 series. but i don't know what to do
[07:01] <cynixx3> maciwl, not associated should mean that its just not connecting to a wifi network. Try removing the security and then connecting.
[07:01] <maciwl> right now it's open
[07:01] <maciwl> no security
[07:01] <maciwl> how do i re-connect?
[07:02] <maciwl> sudo ifconfig wlan0 down; sudo ifconfig wlan0 up does nothign
[07:02] <cynixx3> click the wifi symbol in the top right and select the network you want to join.
[07:02] <maciwl> i'm running headless
[07:02] <maciwl> just commandline
[07:02] <cynixx3> hum good question then.
[07:02] <maciwl> if i reboot the wireless connects and works for a few minutes
[07:03] <cynixx3> even if the network is open?
[07:03] <maciwl> then it just drops association
[07:03] <maciwl> i'm using my mac laptop internet connection sharing as the AP though
[07:03] <maciwl> yeah no encryption here, it's open
[07:04] <cynixx3> Are you positive the problem is with ubuntu and not the imac?
[07:04] <maciwl> how can i be sure
[07:04] <maciwl> the mac has essentially no configuration options
[07:04] <cynixx3> do you have another device that would stay connected longer. Like your phone?
[07:04] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3 if i chose lvm and encryption, and encrypt my home folder, during install, would that prevent my wifi driver from being recognized?
[07:05] <cynixx3> No, drivers are not in your home directory.
[07:06] <maciwl> in ubuntu what's a way to get iwconfig to re-associate with an AP
[07:06] <maciwl> from the command line
[07:06] <maciwl> right now wlan0 is configured in /etc/network/interface
[07:07] <cynixx3> iwconfig wlan0 ap off
[07:07] <cynixx3> then run your command to associate again.
[07:08] <maciwl> what is the command to associate?
[07:08] <cynixx3> iwconfig wlan0 ap auto
[07:08] <maciwl> hmm
[07:09] <maciwl> tried those it still says ESSID: Off/any Access POint: Not-Associated
[07:09] <maciwl> maybe it's the intel wifi driver
[07:09] <cynixx3> have you tried ifconfig ?
[07:10] <cynixx3> so like ifconfig wlan0 down
[07:11] <maciwl> yeah tried that
[07:11] <maciwl> nothing
[07:12] <cynixx3> Explain nothing. Error message? Successful?
[07:12] <maciwl> no error message
[07:12] <maciwl> and no state change
[07:12] <maciwl> after ifconfig wlan0 down and up, it comes up with the same ip address
[07:12] <cynixx3> could you pastebin a ifconfig result here?
[07:12] <maciwl> but iwconfig still shows that it's not authenticated
[07:12] <maciwl> cant copy and past as i'm running the commands on another machine
[07:13] <cynixx3> if you used ifconfig to bring down the interface then you should not be able to authenticate.
[07:13] <maciwl> wlan0 was confiured with dhclient
[07:13] <maciwl> sorry i mean associate
[07:13] <maciwl> i do ifconfig wlan0 down; ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:14] <maciwl> and then iwconfig still shows that it's not associated with an AP
[07:15] <cynixx3> I had to look up dhclient. Lets not worry about that for now
[07:15] <cynixx3> if you run ifconfig what does the wlan0 line say?
[07:16] <maciwl> Link encap: Ethernet HWaddr:a0:a8:cd:62:c6:2c
[07:17] <cynixx3> Does the forth line say UP?
[07:19] <maciwl> yeah: UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[07:19] <cynixx3> So I am trying to think of the most common things that would make a wifi connection just drop after a successful connection.
[07:20] <cynixx3> The only things I am really coming up with are interference, not really connecting in the first place, Wrong channel/ security, or someone hijacking your connection.
[07:20] <maciwl> my phone is on the AP now let's see if it has any problems
[07:20] <maciwl> could be the intel firmware
[07:21] <cynixx3> Why would you think that?
[07:21] <maciwl> ok so i rebooted the device
[07:21] <maciwl> and it is now associated
[07:21] <cynixx3> the ubuntu device?
[07:21] <cynixx3> or the imac?
[07:21] <maciwl> the ubuntu device
[07:23] <maciwl> i guess my question is
[07:24] <maciwl> does doing: `sudo ifconfig wlan0 down; sudo ifconfig wlan0 up` force the wireless interface to try to re-associate with my AP?
[07:24] <maciwl> i tried looking in the logs for reasons why it might un-associate but found nothing
[07:30] <arun_>  I needed one who  can install deepin de in his ubuntu right now
[07:31] <Ben64> arun_: deepin is not supported here
[07:31] <cynixx3> maciwl, ifconfig down will disable the interface. its like unplugging the ethernet cord.
[07:32] <maciwl> yeah well it's strange that when i type ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:32] <maciwl> it says the interface is UP but iwconfig says it's not associated with the AP
[07:32] <WyZeGuY> i don't even have the driver at all. how do i get the wifi driver installed? it needs intel 7260 series, and it's not loaded
[07:33] <maciwl> i just updated the intel firmware for iwlwifi
[07:33] <maciwl> so let's see if that does anything
[07:34] <maciwl> WyZeGuY: what kernel version are you using
[07:34] <maciwl> WyZeGuY: run: uname -a
[07:34] <WyZeGuY> 3.13.0-32-generic
[07:35] <WyZeGuY> x86-64 bit
[07:35] <maciwl> WyZeGuY: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=iwlwifi-7260-ucode-22.24.8.0.tgz
[07:35] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, copied from intel: The Linux drivers are part of the upstream Linux kernel, and are available through the regular channels, distributions or The Linux Kernel Archives. Intel supports use of the drivers only in the kernel version the driver was a part of.
[07:36] <maciwl> WyZeGuY: extract that archive and then do: sudo cp iwlwifi-7260-8.ucode /lib/firmware
[07:38] <WyZeGuY> "no such file or directory"
[07:41] <cynixx3> you dont have a /lib/firmware?
[07:41] <WyZeGuY> yes i do, i just opened it up
[07:41] <cynixx3> did you extract the file you downloaded?
[07:42] <WyZeGuY> it says the iwlwifi... folder "no such file or directory" but i just extracted it to my desktop
[07:42] <cynixx3> in console give us the return from the pwd command.
[07:43] <cynixx3> and locate iwlwifi-7260-8.ucode
[07:43] <WyZeGuY> "cp: cannot stat 'iwlwifi-7260-8.ucode-22.24.8.0': No such file or directory
[07:44] <cynixx3> I hear you. Run pwd and locate.
[07:44] <cynixx3> you want your "Print Working Directory" to match the directory returned from the locate command.
[07:45] <WyZeGuY> i typed pwd and hit enter, then locate iwlwifi... and enter and tried again, still tells me no such file
[07:46] <cynixx3> check that your file was really extracted.
[07:46] <cynixx3> tar -xcf iwlwifi.....
[07:46] <WyZeGuY> i see it on my desktop. the location is /home/hong/desktop/
[07:46] <cynixx3> crap my bad its xzf
[07:46] <maciwl> damn the ubuntu machine dropped association again
[07:47] <cynixx3> :(
[07:47] <maciwl> the wireless interface is still up though, nothing interesting in dmesg
[07:48] <WyZeGuY> but apparently that ucode file already exists in my firmware folder
[07:49] <cynixx3> cp -f?
[07:49] <cynixx3> maciwl, is there any interesting information in sudo lshw -C wlan0
[07:50] <WyZeGuY> "cp: missing file operand"
[07:50] <maciwl> i just rebooted again
[07:50] <maciwl> but lshw doesnt even display anything
[07:50] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, are you su?
[07:50] <WyZeGuY> i tried it again as sudo, yes
[07:51] <cynixx3> still fails?
[07:51] <WyZeGuY> the battery was about to die and i left my charger at school, so i just turned it off. thanks anyway. guess i'll just keep trying again monday
[07:52] <TTN> Hi all :)
[07:52] <TTN> I read the man pages of ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase. It states that printf '%s' 'passphrase' | ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ./wrapped-passphrase can be used to try a unwrap the file, which works, but I would like to replace 'passphrase' with a variable. Ideas anyone? I had $word as the variable but misteriously, it doesn't work. doing echo $word returns the expected value for $word..
[07:52] <cynixx3> Sorry you didnt make any progress WyZeGuY
[07:53] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3 thanks for assisting. i know you didn't have to try to help, but i appreciate it
[07:53] <cynixx3> Your welcome.
[07:53] <maciwl> ${word} maybe?
[07:54] <WyZeGuY> what do you think i should do when i try again? the ucode file already exists in the /lib/firmware folder, but clearly ubuntu isn't recognizing it as the driver.
[07:55] <maciwl> WyZeGuY: try `sudo lsmod | grep iwlwifi`
[07:55] <maciwl> and `dmesg | grep iwlwifi`
[07:56] <WyZeGuY> to get the wifi model?
[07:56] <cynixx3> Check the driver. md5sum both files, check permissions of the file in /lib/firmware.
[07:56] <cynixx3> if that returns a version or model then the driver should be working.
[07:56] <TTN> maciwi, thanks I tried that , nogo. the funny thing is I had it working before.
[07:56] <cynixx3> at that point it would be another problem down the line.
[07:56] <WyZeGuY> maciwl, when i looked earlier, it said something like 8086:somenumber.
[07:57] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3, so since it returned a version number, then the computer IS recognizing the driver?
[07:57] <auscompgeek> WyZeGuY: but are there any errors?
[07:58] <cynixx3> TTN, I would recommend checking your quotes. `is for console ' are for variables and " for content. I think, I do get ' and " a little confused.
[07:58] <WyZeGuY> auscompgeek, when i've tried other commands people have told me, terminal told me "eth0 not connected" and "lo not connected" or something like that
[07:58] <maciwl> TTN: try: printf %s $word | ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ./wrapped-passphrase
[07:59] <auscompgeek> WyZeGuY: no, I mean is the kernel showing any errors in dmesg?
[07:59] <cynixx3> eth0 is your wired connection and l0 is a loopback port.
[07:59] <maciwl> you don't need the single quotes
[07:59] <maciwl> or look up shell escaping stuff
[08:00] <WyZeGuY> network manager doesn't show the wifi connection at all
[08:01] <maciwl> WyZeGuY: dmesg | grep iwlwifi will show you snags
[08:02] <cynixx3> maciwl, and your dmesg shows no reason for the network disassociation?
[08:02] <maciwl> nope
[08:02] <maciwl> how can i get better networking logs?
[08:03] <maciwl> i would think a 'disassociation' event would be logged somewhere
[08:03] <william_doe> +32................63528983+
[08:03] <cynixx3> sudo lshw -C wlan0
[08:03] <cynixx3> lshw takes a while to run.
[08:03] <maciwl> that command doesnt output anything
[08:04] <maciwl> it briefly shows: PCI (sysfs)
[08:05] <cynixx3> and then for me in about 2 minutes you will see a larger block of output.
[08:05] <cynixx3> maybe run sudo lshw -C wlan0 > lshw.log
[08:05] <maciwl> nah it just returns a shell prompt after 2 seconds
[08:06] <TTN> thanks maciwl, didn't work..
[08:06] <TTN> I'll do some reading then
[08:06] <cynixx3> then skip the -C
[08:06] <maciwl> TTN it's a shell escape problem
[08:07] <Novice201y> Hello. Do Fedora and Ubuntu use different versions of Kernel? On Ubuntu Fn Keys for brightness work, on Fedora - don't.
[08:07] <TTN> maciwl, sweet. now I know where to look :)
[08:09] <cynixx3> Fedora is a red hat version and ubuntu is a different branch. They will most likely use different versions.
[08:10] <cynixx3> But the brightness issue is probably related to  another part of the fedora system.
[08:11] <cynixx3> maciwl, I dont know of a better wireless log than dmesg, lshw gives good hardware information and settings but not a association log.
[08:25] <arun_> anyone here familiar with Anope ?
[08:27] <_thewarlock_> Hello People ! I am New here !!!
[08:27] <cynixx3> hello
[08:28] <cynixx3> its kind of slow at this time of night.
[08:32] <_thewarlock_> I am From India, its luckily noon ! :P
[08:32] <cynixx3> Cool. Hows the weather there?
[08:35] <arun_> hi guys
[08:45] <avocado1> Where does pidgin save chat logs?
[08:47] <enchilado> avocado1: on http://www.irssi.org/
[08:47] <_Druid_> mby on ~/.purple
[08:48] <avocado1> _Druid_: Thanks
[08:51] <wgetME> anyone using Ubuntu on MBP ?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> wgetME, skip the survey, state your problem.
[08:52] <wgetME> cfhowlett: does it work fully including the battery ?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> !mac | wgetME,
[08:53] <AbstractD> Has anyone experienced a problem when trying to install EMACS24 from Synaptic pkg mgr? choosing extra packages always causes Synaptic to complain about dependencies when trying to install newer, other software.
[08:53] <cfhowlett> wgetME, dozens of configurations and hundreds/thousands of different use profiles.  the literal answer to your question is "yes".  So?  STATE YOUR PROBLEM or do the survey in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:53] <cfhowlett> !poll | wgetME
[08:55] <wgetME> cfhowlett: ok I get it
[08:55] <cfhowlett> wgetME, pm?
[08:55] <wgetME> cfhowlett: you on Macbook Pro ?
[08:56] <andreas_> hi
[08:56] <andreas_> hi
[08:56] <AbstractD> CF: That's what wGetMe said.
[09:02] <mbfff> Hello! Windows keeps asking a user/password for my share on restart. I have followed several suggestions via ubuntu forums and stack overflow. no dice.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> AbstractD, sorry, no knowledge or idea about emacs
[09:04] <AbstractD> The issue is not so much with emacs, it's with dependency hell
[09:04] <AbstractD> in general.
[09:06] <AbstractD> Say I mark 150 packages to install--Synaptic does not denote any broken packages, yet some library ends up breaking.  The whole of saying this is, we moved away from Windows due to .DLL hell, now we have a more secure OS with lib dependecy hell.  There is only only flavor of *nix that I know of that isolates every app and its lib dependcies into their own separate directory, and that's PC-BSD.
[09:07] <cfhowlett> AbstractD, this is what the CLI would install for emacs24  http://ur1.ca/iv3ud
[09:11] <AbstractD> Anyone else?
[09:24] <nebuchs> I've added bad ppa to my system and now "gstreamer1.0-plugins-good : Depends: libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 (>= 1.5.0.1+git20140905.a2122f04-0ubuntu1~14.04~ricotz0) but 1.2.4-1~ubuntu1 is to be installed", i did ppa-purge, autoclean, autoremove, everything but this package still keeps giving error, why this package still depends on that package?
[09:25] <fahad_IT> hello
[09:29] <Artemis3> nebuchs, uninstall the package it then install again?
[09:31] <nebuchs> Artemis3, i uninstalled almost everything related, but somehow this package depends that package, there must be hidden cache
[09:33] <DJJeff> after I purge network-manager-(gnome) how do I get back my eth0:1 and eth0:2 that I have in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:33] <DJJeff> I have ifupdown installed
[09:35] <AbstractD> hang on NEBUCHS.. seeing about getting an answer for you
[09:35] <DJJeff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9192568/
[09:36] <DJJeff> with this I only got eth0 back not eth0:1 or eth0:2
[09:36] <DJJeff> I was also told to leave out the gateway on the virtual interfaces
[09:37] <DJJeff> or ubuntu would hang on startup for 60 seconds
[09:39] <nebuchs> AbstractD, now i am trying to do force version with synaptic
[09:43] <WyZeGuY> anyone here?
[09:43] <DJJeff> nope sorry
[09:43] <DJJeff> only robots at this hour
[09:43] <WyZeGuY> are you looking for help too, or just hanging out here?
[09:44] <DJJeff> even the robots here are trying to get some sleep
[09:44] <AbstractD> I'm thinking that you have mismatched versions of shared libraries, however the bungholes over at Debian are not of much use.
[09:44] <WyZeGuY> jeff do you know how to set up wifi in ubuntu?
[09:44] <AbstractD> Cute, DJ
[09:45] <DJJeff> tried WICD?
[09:45] <AbstractD> Cute.
[09:45] <DJJeff> WyZeGuY: have you tried WICD for wifi
[09:45] <WyZeGuY> E: Unable to locate package wicd-daemon
[09:45] <WyZeGuY> it's not hooked up to the internet
[09:46] <DJJeff> odd I got
[09:46] <DJJeff> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[09:46] <DJJeff>   python-wicd wicd wicd-daemon wicd-gtk
[09:46] <DJJeff> your sources list is broken? try (sudo) apt-get update first
[09:46] <nebuchs> AbstractD, thanks, now i am trying to fix it with synaptic manually :/
[09:47] <AbstractD> DJ: You didn't get his ver. of Ubuntu
[09:47] <WyZeGuY> updating, everything failed to download or fetch, because it's not hooked up to the internet
[09:47] <DJJeff> oh
[09:47] <DJJeff> you will need to be online to get the packages
[09:47] <WyZeGuY> i know, which is why i'm trying to get the internet on it
[09:47] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: you don't need wicd, networkmanager (comes installed by default) works just fine. What's the problem?
[09:48] <WyZeGuY> it won't hook up to the internet :-?
[09:48] <DJJeff> networkmanager sucks balls
[09:48] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: where does it fail? Authenticating to the wifi, dhcp, routing, dns?
[09:48] <Seveas> DJJeff: watch your languae please.
[09:48] <DJJeff> WyZeGuY: what have you tried so far
[09:48] <WyZeGuY> i click on the network manager icon, and no connections are available
[09:49] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: what kind of wifi card/chip do you have?
[09:49] <WyZeGuY> jeff, i've been searching for the last 3 nights, spending about 4 hours a night on average, following all sorts of guides, how tos and faqs. i've tried lots of stuff
[09:49] <DJJeff> WyZeGuY: try lspci in terminal and check if you card is listed
[09:49] <WyZeGuY> seveas, i'm not sure. i think it's intel 7620
[09:49] <WyZeGuY> hold on, i'll do lspci again
[09:50] <Seveas> that should work fine. Is the wifi maybe disabled with a hardware switch?
[09:50] <DJJeff> WyZeGuY: also check iwconfig for something like (wlan0, wlan1...)
[09:50] <WyZeGuY> hold on, i'm going to try just one step at a time and report to you guys what i see
[09:51] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: but we have so many iodeas and suggestions, hurry up :P
[09:51] <WyZeGuY> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7620 (rev cb) ..... so it sees my wireless card, right?
[09:51] <WyZeGuY> under lspci command, whatever that means
[09:51] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: yup
[09:51] <DJJeff> sudo rfkill unblock wifi
[09:51] <DJJeff> sudo rfkill list all
[09:51] <DJJeff> check for hardware or software lock on it
[09:52] <AbstractD> NEBUCHS: I think you'll have to fix thru through synaptic.  Do a search for Gstreamer and possbily FORCE uninstall everything - g-bad, g-good, b-whatever the heck else.. remove it ALL
[09:52] <WyZeGuY> ok, i did rfkill unblock and list, and it says nothing's blocked
[09:53] <WyZeGuY> Abstractd, don't i need internet to use synaptic?
[09:53] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: ok, sudo iwlist scan
[09:53] <Seveas> does it see your network?
[09:53] <WyZeGuY> eth0 interface doesn't support scanning. same with lo
[09:53] <WyZeGuY> only those two
[09:54] <DJJeff> no wlan0 shows up ?
[09:54] <WyZeGuY> no
[09:54] <DJJeff> so your kernal is missing the wireless modules
[09:54] <WyZeGuY> lib/firmware, right?
[09:55] <DJJeff> lsmod would give you a good place to start looking
[09:55] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: did rfkill actually list a wireless connection?
[09:55] <DJJeff> I have no clue what intel uses as I have atheros (ath9k)
[09:55] <WyZeGuY> jeff, under lsmod, i don't know what i'm looking at except a big list. seveas i'll recheck
[09:56] <Seveas> the 7620 is a pretty new chip
[09:56] <WyZeGuY> seveas, yes, rfkill list all shows "1:asus-wlan: wireless LAN"
[09:56] <Seveas> which Ubuntu version are you using?
[09:57] <WyZeGuY> the most recent, as of 3 days ago
[09:57] <WyZeGuY> from their wbesite
[09:57] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: http://askubuntu.com/questions/498567/intel-ac-7620-no-internet-still-connected-to-network
[09:58] <WyZeGuY> ugh another guide... ok i'll look at it
[09:58] <Seveas> this one is specific to your chip
[09:59] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: also, does this show any errors: dmesg | grep iwlwifi ; grep iwlwifi /var/log/syslog
[10:00] <WyZeGuY> seveas, when i typed it in, nothing even came up in terminal
[10:00] <DJJeff> can I have networkmanager "manage" eth0 but leave eth0:1 eth0:2 "unmanaged"?
[10:01] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=145805 has some more tips
[10:01] <Seveas> especially the post by rual93 on Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:56 am
[10:02] <WyZeGuY> i don't understand how you guys can go through pages and pages of online info. i love computers, but i need to see things to understand. but most of you real geniuses can just read through stuff online and know what they're talking about
[10:02] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: it's called experience :)
[10:02] <DJJeff> im not reading crap I just know this because I do it daily
[10:02] <DJJeff> as a hobby and a career
[10:03] <DJJeff> I get stuck too we all do
[10:04] <Seveas> stuck like glue
[10:04] <DJJeff> things change all the time and break things and fix others
[10:04] <DJJeff> its all in good fun
[10:05] <WyZeGuY> i'm on http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi, how do i know which one to download?
[10:05] <DJJeff> and I just fixed my problem woohoo
[10:06] <DJJeff> https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Multiple_IP_addresses_on_One_Interface
[10:06] <WyZeGuY> there are three 7260s on there
[10:07] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: which kernel version do you have? (uname -r output)
[10:08] <WyZeGuY> oh ok, uname -r output didn't do anything, but i redid uname -a, and it shows 3.13, so i guess that's the one :- ?
[10:09] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: yeah, the middle one
[10:09] <WyZeGuY> ok so this is the same file i was working with yesterday, trying to get
[10:09] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: also, that means you're *not* running the latest Ubuntu
[10:09] <Seveas> you're running 14.04, not 14.10
[10:10] <WyZeGuY> and i think it already exists in my /lib/firmware folder. the same filename and filesize is already there
[10:10] <WyZeGuY> seveas, why would that be? i downloaded straight from their site
[10:10] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: I guess they maket the LTS version more prominent
[10:10] <cfhowlett> Seveas, the latest LTS version is 14.04.1 ...
[10:11] <Seveas> cfhowlett: and the latest Ubuntu version is 14.10 :)
[10:11] <WyZeGuY> ok yea, about this computer says ubtuntu 14.04 lts
[10:11] <cfhowlett> Seveas, pick your poison.  14.10 = bleeding edge = bloody edge.
[10:12] <cfhowlett> WyZeGuY, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade your presently installed OS with upgraded packages
[10:12] <Seveas> 14.10 is just as broken as 14.04 :)
[10:12] <Seveas> maybe a little less even
[10:15] <WyZeGuY> ok so i cp'd the iwlwifi ucode to /lib/firmware .....
[10:17] <DJJeff> also $ sudo cat /etc/*release*
[10:18] <DJJeff> will show what version you are running
[10:18] <Seveas> lsb_release -a :)
[10:18] <cfhowlett> cat /etc/issue
[10:18] <DJJeff> or that
[10:18] <DJJeff> or that too
[10:18] <Seveas> yay redundancy :)
[10:19] <WyZeGuY> No LSB modules are available
[10:19] <DJJeff> yup
[10:19] <Seveas> that's normal. It still shows you what you are running :)
[10:19] <WyZeGuY> is that good or bad?
[10:19] <DJJeff> # cat /etc/issue
[10:19] <DJJeff> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[10:19] <WyZeGuY> oh, wait, but that doesn't turn my wifi on, does it?
[10:19] <DJJeff> silly \n and \l
[10:19] <DJJeff> no
[10:19] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: nope
[10:20] <WyZeGuY> :-
[10:20] <DJJeff> just checks what version of ubuntu you have
[10:20] <WyZeGuY> :-| then why did i just do that?
[10:20] <DJJeff> to help us aid you better?
[10:20] <Seveas> DJJeff: that's not silly, that tells your console where to show the login prompt :)
[10:20] <WyZeGuY> oh, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[10:20] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: try 14.10. You never know :)
[10:21] <WyZeGuY> so reinstall?
[10:21] <DJJeff> do not bite the hand thats trying to help you
[10:21] <WyZeGuY> lol i wouldn't, i use that proverb all the time. i was just confused
[10:21] <DJJeff> a dist upgrade should work for you
[10:21] <bobface> Hi there- I have 14.10 on a HP laptop with AMD FireGL card. glxinfo -info shows render as gallium llvmpipe unless I run as sudo, then it show gallium on AMD RV635
[10:21] <Seveas> DJJeff: not without a network connection :)
[10:21] <WyZeGuY> for a dist upgrade, don't i need internet first?
[10:22] <DJJeff> ahhhhhh
[10:22] <WyZeGuY> so i should reinstall right?
[10:22] <DJJeff> 2:22 am for me
[10:22] <WyZeGuY> with hey me too. central time
[10:22] <bobface> how come sudo is required to use HW renderer?
[10:22] <Seveas> DJJeff: /bin/sleep 8h && sudo make me a sandwich :)
[10:23] <DJJeff> thanks Seveas
[10:23] <WyZeGuY> oh no no no no plz plz, i've been trying for days to get wifi no /bin/sleep plz plz
[10:23] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: just download 14.10 and try with that
[10:23] <WyZeGuY> *literally just sighed*
[10:23] <WyZeGuY> ok i will
[10:25] <WyZeGuY> utopic unicorn?? lol wth
[10:25] <DJJeff> I am scared now to do service networking restart good thing I have backups
[10:25] <DJJeff> *holds breath*
[10:26] <DJJeff> oh poo on a stick
[10:26] <DJJeff> start: Job is already running: networking
[10:26] <WyZeGuY> it's going on a couple minutes man start breathing agian
[10:27] <WyZeGuY> *punches you in the stomach to make you stop holding your breath and breath again
[10:27] <WyZeGuY> oops
[10:27] <WyZeGuY> *punches you in the stomach to make you stop holding your breath and breath again*
[10:28] <WyZeGuY> a
[10:28]  * enyc blinks
[10:28] <DJJeff> woah flood of text
[10:28] <DJJeff> and ..... SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[10:28] <WyZeGuY> on your other screen?
[10:28] <DJJeff> jump for joy
[10:29] <DJJeff> ifconfig does not like virtual interfaces very much
[10:29] <Seveas> DJJeff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010KyIQjkTk
[10:29] <WyZeGuY> seveas and djjeff, would it be a good idea for me to remove all of the other wifi drivers in /lib/firmware?
[10:30] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: no, that's not a very good idea
[10:30] <WyZeGuY> i mean besides the 7260 that i need?
[10:30] <WyZeGuY> maybe those are tripping it up?
[10:30] <DJJeff> Seveas: that youtube wont play in my vlc player
[10:31] <DJJeff> sad panda now
[10:31] <DJJeff> probley a good thing not into bad rap songs
[10:32] <DJJeff> stupid flash player crashing my firefox
[10:32] <DJJeff> I always play my youtube in VLC
[10:32] <DJJeff> lots of love for VLC <3
[10:33] <Seveas> I don't use flash for youtube. html5 <3
[10:35] <DJJeff> taadaa........ https://bpaste.net/show/7c4353eb76d2
[10:36] <DJJeff> took some hard work but I got it now.....
[10:36] <alpamega> ciao
[10:36] <Seveas> *slowclap*
[10:36] <alpamega> !list
[10:37] <DJJeff> so does ifupdown have a restart command or a gtk gui
[10:38] <sacarlson1> DJJeff: I'm not sure but it might be what network-manager uses
[10:38] <Seveas> sacarlson1: it's not.
[10:38] <DJJeff> network-manager causes problems when I use airmon-ng for wifi hacking
[10:39] <DJJeff> I dislike network-mannager
[10:39] <DJJeff> also I need my eth0:1 to be up 24/7 because its doing naughty things
[10:40] <DJJeff> like capturing router traffic in a DMZ
[10:40] <Seveas> network-manager is great unless you want to do tricky things, like multiple IP addresses. Or more than one VPN
[10:41] <DJJeff> yes
[10:41] <DJJeff> which is what I have in my setup
[10:41] <WyZeGuY> more than one vpn? isn't that basically what tor is for?
[10:41] <DJJeff> I use network manager on my laptop its great
[10:41] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: tor is the opposite of a vpn
[10:42] <Seveas> vpn keeps your data secure, tor makes it widely available
[10:42] <WyZeGuY> oh hiding in plain sight
[10:42] <Seveas> not even that
[10:42] <Seveas> tor is considered so broken these days that any benefits it says it have are really lies
[10:43] <WyZeGuY> do you think it's true that if everyone used it, that it would be more efficient?
[10:43] <sacarlson1> Seveas: well that's good to know.  I have a friend using it for bad things
[10:43] <DJJeff> people can see what your surfing that just cant see who is surfing it
[10:43] <DJJeff> over tor
[10:43] <Seveas> DJJeff: oh they can. Tor is broken.
[10:44] <DJJeff> really?
[10:44] <WyZeGuY> seveas then why not submit the bugs you know of to the tor developers?
[10:44] <DJJeff> I only use tor on IRC to stop me from getting DDoS attacked
[10:44] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: because they already know. It's not bugs in the software but in the underlying ideas behind tor.
[10:44] <WyZeGuY> hahahahaha
[10:45] <WyZeGuY> djjeff, i was thinking i'd been ddosed before. all at once, a bunch of colorful blocks from thousands of usernames all flooded my screen. any idea what that was?
[10:45] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: that's not a ddos. That's just idiots flooding channels.
[10:46] <WyZeGuY> identically at the same second?
[10:47] <DJJeff> ddos is an attack where your internet no longer works you are denied service to internet
[10:47] <DJJeff> because you are under a flood attack of internet packets
[10:47] <DJJeff> from zombie computers
[10:47] <WyZeGuY> :-0
[10:47] <DJJeff> irc floods are just lame and so 1990s
[10:48] <WyZeGuY> that would be horrible
[10:48] <WyZeGuY> yea i remember floods back in the 90s too. on AIM tho, cuz i was a kid and didn't use irc
[10:48] <WyZeGuY> life without internet is no life at all
[10:48] <hatem_> hallo
[10:50] <WyZeGuY> speaking of internet. still trying on 14.04.1 to get wifi, while this computer downloads 14.10 ... oh wait, don't need that 0. ubunto 14.1 there we go. so the readme says to configure the kernel by going to Device Drivers -> Generic Driver Options -> Userspace firmware loading support ... lol i can't find that
[10:52] <bonhoeffer> when i log in I get 7 packages can be updated. 7 updates are security updates. — i do sudo apt-get update and apt-get upgrade but that doesn’t take care of it
[10:53] <WyZeGuY> try sudo do it do it now
[10:59] <DJJeff> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:59] <DJJeff> might be kernel updates
[11:00] <DJJeff> ok now 3am dead tired good luck in your upgrade WyZeGuY
[11:00] <WyZeGuY> thank djjeff
[11:00] <WyZeGuY> *thanks
[11:03] <Seveas> bonhoeffer: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. If that doesn't work, pastebin its output
[11:03] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[11:04] <bonhoeffer> now it says: *** System restart required ***
[11:04] <bonhoeffer> which is annoying — this site is running lots of web sites
[11:04] <bonhoeffer> and i thought linus bragged that he never restarted
[11:05] <OerHeks> bonhoeffer, that is up to you. and Linus never said you never need a reboot.
[11:05] <bonhoeffer> so what technically requires a reboot?
[11:06] <Seveas> bonhoeffer: if you want high uptime, build an HA system with multiple machines. per-machine uptime is irrelevant, rebooting to apply security updates for e.g. the kernel or glibc outweigh uptime.
[11:06] <bonhoeffer> good point
[11:08] <Ugb8> Hey guys, I just had installed ubuntu on a system with a GT210 and proprietary Nvidia drivers, but all my videos are lightly stuttering with any video player, even with xbmc and vdpau enable, any idea ?
[11:11] <snuskgubben> do you lovley ubuntu-gurus have got a bash channel?
[11:13] <bazhang> #bash
[11:13] <snuskgubben> Thanks :)
[11:13] <test__> hello
[11:13] <WyZeGuY> olleh
[11:18] <LinuxInside1> hello?
[11:18] <WyZeGuY> ?olleh
[11:19] <snuskgubben> Tarf?
[11:19] <WyZeGuY> ?fraT
[11:20] <snuskgubben> traf!
[11:20] <WyZeGuY> !frat
[11:20] <WyZeGuY> !fart
[11:20] <bazhang> WyZeGuY, cut that out
[11:20] <WyZeGuY> lol :-( moodkiller
[11:21] <bazhang> the chat channel is #ubuntu-offtopic WyZeGuY
[11:21] <WyZeGuY> ok
[11:21] <ManDay> What is "Ubuntu Tablet", actually? I've just seen this impressive video with Shuttleworth on the website but I can't find any place where it can be downloaded?
[11:21] <bazhang> !touch | ManDay
[11:22] <ManDay> bazhang: Thanks!
[11:24] <Samurairm> hi
[11:25] <Samurairm> hou we connectwithout knowing the key wpa? telecom italia
[11:25] <Samurairm> pvt?
[11:25] <Samurairm> i m an italian boys
[11:25] <Samurairm> boy
[11:26] <johndoedoe> hi, ubuntu peepl, Anyone knows a simple video player where I can see accurate frames or milli seconds. Its for cutting afterwards. Ta anyway
[11:26] <OerHeks> Samurairm, likely not, get that WPA key first.
[11:26] <novato_br> hi, how can I calculate amount of memory to spend with 7zip ?
[11:26] <novato_br> is there any 7z calculator of memory?
[11:27] <johndoedoe> Samurairm: wps I think you mean
[11:27] <OerHeks> johndoedoe, i think he means WPA2
[11:27] <Seveas> johndoedoe: cinelerra or openshot come to mind
[11:27] <Samurairm> jes wps
[11:28] <Seveas> novato_br: That depends on the file you're (de-)compressing
[11:28] <johndoedoe> OerHeks: :p wps
[11:28] <novato_br> I want to compress it
[11:28] <Samurairm> wpa key
[11:29] <novato_br> I'd like to know how to calculate, apparently any settings that I put on 7zip, it's told me that is not possible, because there is not memory enough
[11:29] <johndoedoe> Seveas: cinelerra I will not use, kde app. Openshot, maybe yes. I'll give it a shot. Pitivi maybe also
[11:30] <Seveas> novato_br: how much memory do you have?
[11:30] <Samurairm> i calculate wpa modem alice telecom-italia?
[11:30] <novato_br> 8GB
[11:30] <novato_br> I'm running windows 7 ultimate
[11:30] <Seveas> novato_br: then ask in a windows channel. This channel is for Ubuntu support.
[11:30] <Seveas> shoo
[11:31] <Ugb8> Any idea on how I can troubleshot my stuttering video playback with a GT210 and prorietary drivers ? here is my vdpauinfo : http://pastebin.com//0j6RVGxt
[11:31] <novato_br> the problem is not with windows
[11:31] <novato_br> the problem is the software settings
[11:31] <Seveas> then come back when you fail to compress with 7z on Ubuntu.
[11:31] <novato_br> ok
[11:42] <LinuxInside> hello.
[11:43] <_thewarlock_> M having problems playing an mp3 cd
[11:43] <_thewarlock_> it shows blank
[11:44] <ManDay> _thewarlock_: What do you mean it shows blank?
[11:45] <_thewarlock_> whenever I open its window, it displays nothing, Completely Empty
[11:46] <LinuxInside> is your cd reader able to read this cd format that you have? i don't know
[11:46] <ManDay> _thewarlock_: Open a terminal and type   mount    press Enter, what's the last entry?
[11:46] <ManDay> (Rather, paste the whole output if you can)
[11:47] <_thewarlock_> yea it did on windows, i recently shifted to Ubuntu n m a complete  noob at it
[11:53] <LinuxInside> is your cd mounted in /media/<your name>/<name od the cd>/?
[11:55] <LinuxInside> when yes type in a termianl: cd /media/<your name>/<name of the cd>/ and than type ls and say what is there.
[11:55] <LinuxInside> if there nothing?
[11:55] <LinuxInside> in the terminal?
[11:55] <maks> Salam
[11:57] <dreamcat4> hello. i'm on 14.10 and am a bit concerned about WINE
[11:57] <maks> Prompt, Django project must be in a virtual environment?
[11:57] <dreamcat4> apt says it needs to install 176 packages for wine, as it's dependancies
[11:58] <dreamcat4> doesn't that sound a bit crazy to anyone else here ?
[11:58] <WyZeGuY> seveas, hey i'm back
[11:58] <WyZeGuY> running 14.1 live right now, and wifi isn't showing on it
[11:59] <LinuxInside> what wifi card do you have?
[11:59] <WyZeGuY> intel 7260
[12:00] <WyZeGuY> the filename is iwlwifi-7260-8.ucode. it's already in my /lib/firmware
[12:00] <LinuxInside> i had the same problem with a laptop.
[12:01] <WyZeGuY> this is an asus q502la
[12:01] <WyZeGuY> it has 14.04 installed right now, but i'm running 14.10 live and it's still not picking up
[12:01] <WyZeGuY> linuxinside did you fix it before?
[12:02] <LinuxInside> no but when i installed ubuntu and the update was finished it worked
[12:02] <WyZeGuY> update or upgrade?
[12:02] <LinuxInside> i installed ubuntu over ethernet
[12:02] <WyZeGuY> any idea on how to get it when you don't have access to the cable?
[12:03] <sgen> does restarting openssh-server via 'sudo service ssh restart' change the rsa host key or am I being man in the middled?
[12:05] <OerHeks> sgen, no. about man-in-the-middle, why do you think that?
[12:05] <LinuxInside> noas far as I do not know.
[12:06] <maks> l
[12:06] <LinuxInside> why man-in-the-middle?
[12:07] <sgen> OerHeks: http://pastie.org/private/tbkyl9qwhxokqpl2cfwgvg
[12:07] <LinuxInside> no thats onlny a warning
[12:07] <sgen> the warning continues and says something about a mitm
[12:07] <LinuxInside> the computer things that it is a mitm attack
[12:07] <sgen> Well Ive never seen that warning before
[12:07] <sgen> So Im asking
[12:08] <sgen> I figured lo
[12:08] <OerHeks> sgen did your host-ip change ?
[12:09] <OerHeks> then the ssh key does not match anymore
[12:09] <sgen> OerHeks: not sure, Ive been connecting via dns for a while.
[12:09] <sgen> It happened after I restarted the ssh server. I ssh
[12:09] <WyZeGuY> um, wait so every time you encounter dns spoofing, it's a hacker?
[12:09] <LinuxInside> is the IP behind the DNS a static or a dynamic IP?
[12:10] <WyZeGuY> or do legitimate websites use it too?
[12:10] <sgen> 'd fine without issue, restarted the server to change the ssh port to something other than 22 and tried to ssh again. then I go this.
[12:10] <sgen> should be static actually
[12:10] <OerHeks> sgen good to mention that, did you change enything else too?
[12:11] <sgen> OerHeks: nothing
[12:13] <OerHeks> sgen,  regenerate your keys, now you know what happens when something changes.
[12:14] <sgen> OerHeks: So I have nothing to worry about? Doesnt the change in IP indicate an issue considering that my vps has a static ip?
[12:15] <OerHeks> sgen no, the change of port used, caused this likely
[12:15] <sgen> ahh
[12:17] <xyzwhatever> when I put a usb stick in, it says "unable to mount location    not authorized" :((((((((((((((
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> xyzwhatever: try sudo
[12:18] <xyzwhatever> ok
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> xyzwhatever: what partition is your usb formatted in?
[12:19] <xyzwhatever> FAT32
[12:20] <xyzwhatever> it says my stupid user is not in sudoers file :(
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> xyzwhatever: maybe try gparted and reformat the usb
[12:20] <LinuxInside> than you must login as root and change the sudo file!
[12:20] <embik> isn't root deactivated by default on Ubuntu?
[12:21] <LinuxInside> or do that as root
[12:21] <LinuxInside> actually already
[12:21] <k1l_> xyzwhatever: do you have sother user accounts on your system?
[12:21] <xyzwhatever> i dont know the root passwort i guess
[12:22] <k1l_> there is no root password.
[12:22] <LinuxInside> xyzwhatever: thats not good
[12:22] <k1l_> xyzwhatever: are there other user accounts on that system?
[12:22] <k1l_> LinuxInside: that is very good.
[12:22] <xyzwhatever> yes many accounts
[12:22] <LinuxInside> k1l_: what?
[12:22] <k1l_> LinuxInside: ubuntu does not have a enabled root password. so dont mix things here please
[12:23] <LinuxInside> k1l_: oh raelly? sorry.
[12:23] <k1l_> xyzwhatever: can you loginto a user account that got admin permissions? is this your pc?
[12:24] <xyzwhatever> k1l_   nope its not mine :( i dont have admin :( ok i dont use usb then
[12:24] <dcmwai> Hello all.
[12:24] <embik> hello :)
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> dcmwai: welcome
[12:25] <k1l_> xyzwhatever: ok, then there is not much you can do. the admin needs to put your account into some gropus so you can do what you want.
[12:25] <dcmwai> Anyone have any guide on openproject installation.
[12:25] <dcmwai> I try to follow https://www.openproject.org/download/packaged-installation/
[12:25] <dcmwai> But can't seem to get the package.
[12:26] <oomf> hello
[12:26] <sgen> somethings still up
[12:26] <oomf> anyone here?
[12:26] <LinuxInside> hello!
[12:26] <oomf> hi
[12:26] <oomf> hi
[12:26] <embik> dcmai: did you run the terminal commands?
[12:26] <oomf> i need some help
[12:27] <oomf> im trying to install vlc
[12:27] <embik> *dcmwai
[12:27] <dcmwai> embik: Yes
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> oomf: sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:27] <k1l_> oomf: "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[12:27] <oomf> i know but
[12:27] <oomf> ill paste the error
[12:27] <LinuxInside> ok
[12:27] <dcmwai> I'm using Gentoo normally.
[12:27] <embik> dcmwai: are you getting any error?
[12:28] <oomf> heres my error
[12:28] <oomf> http://pastebin.com/0wuUZ24M
[12:28] <k1l_> dcmwai: please show a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[12:28] <sgen> Im still getting the error when I try to ssh into my vps http://pastie.org/private/aj66otmpfu0hih1sdy44dg
[12:29] <embik> oomf: what Ubuntu version are you using?
[12:29] <OerHeks> oomf, what ubuntu version?
[12:29] <oomf> uhhhh
[12:29] <dcmwai> https://community.openproject.org/topics/3519
[12:29] <k1l_> oomf: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in a pastebin please
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> dcmwai: your on ubuntu server 64bit?
[12:29] <embik> oomf: what does "lCCsb_release -a
[12:30] <k1l_> dcmwai: see my paste request. and what ubuntu are you on?
[12:30] <embik> woops
[12:30] <dcmwai> lotuspsychje: Yea.
[12:30] <embik> oomf: what does "lsb_release -a" says in terminal?
[12:30] <dcmwai> 14.04 64
[12:30] <sgen> w/e I just deleted my known hosts. the VPS's ip matches
[12:30] <dcmwai> k1l_: sorry was outside.
[12:30] <k1l_> dcmwai: wait: https://deb.packager.io/gh/opf/openproject  is not available. so openproject needs to fix that
[12:31] <dcmwai> k1l_:  I think im right as well ;)
[12:31] <dcmwai> k1l_: Thank you for confirmating.
[12:32] <oomf_> ok im back
[12:32] <embik> welcome back ;)
[12:32] <oomf_> what did u guys want me to do again
[12:32] <Diogo> Hi
[12:32] <embik> what does "lsb_release -a" say on your terminal?
[12:32] <Diogo> :D
[12:32] <k1l_> k1l_> oomf: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in a pastebin please
[12:32] <Diogo> Hey guys
[12:33] <Diogo> I'm new and need some help
[12:33] <Diogo> :S
[12:33] <embik> hi Diogo, no problem
[12:33] <embik> what's your issue? :)
[12:33] <oomf_> http://pastebin.com/1SFJ0WA0
[12:33] <oomf_> there ya go
[12:33] <Diogo> Ok so using the software manager I have installed deluge, a torrent
[12:33] <Diogo> or a torrent downloader
[12:33] <oomf_> what do now
[12:33] <embik> oomf_, you are using an ubuntu version with no support
[12:33] <k1l_> oomf_: raring is end of life. you need to update asap
[12:34] <embik> it is outdated
[12:34] <k1l_> !eolupgrades | oomf_
[12:34] <oomf_> so i cant get vlc?
[12:34] <Diogo> Im using linux mint
[12:34] <Diogo> aaand
[12:34] <embik> yes
[12:34] <oomf_> or something to play mp4/3 files
[12:34] <k1l_> oomf_: your system is insecure and vulnerable for a 14 year old
[12:34] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues, Diogo
[12:34] <OerHeks> !mint
[12:34] <oomf_> so what do
[12:34] <embik> install 14.04 LTS
[12:34] <k1l_> oomf_: see the bots message
[12:34] <Diogo> What do you mean
[12:35] <embik> Diogo, you are not using Ubuntu, you are using Linux Mint
[12:35] <oomf_> ok well i have that video application
[12:35] <Diogo> I know
[12:35] <embik> this is an ubuntu channel
[12:35] <oomf_> but it doesnt have the codecs
[12:35] <k1l_> embik: oomf_ no need to reinstall. you can upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04
[12:35] <Diogo> but Mint is a type of ubuntu right?
[12:35] <embik> yeah, but not supported here
[12:35] <k1l_> Diogo: use the support channel that is made autojoin in your irc client. thanks
[12:35] <embik> k1l_ are the upgrade routines still available for 13.04?
[12:35] <OerHeks> Diogo do you go with your Toyota to a Mercedes dealer?
[12:35] <oomf_> so basicallly the only thing i can do is upgrde
[12:36] <embik> yes and you should
[12:36] <LinuxInside> I have a question to ubuntu 14.04. When i lock my screen with STRG+ALT+L and i don't move my mouse then the screen darknes up. How can i stop that?
[12:36] <k1l_> embik: yes, see the bots message
[12:36] <Pantsu> LinuxInside: man xset
[12:36] <oomf_> but wait can i get the codecs for rythmbox or videos?
[12:37] <embik> oomf_: the package repositories for 13.04 are shut down
[12:37] <embik> you cannot install anything
[12:37] <Pantsu> oomf_: install gst-plugins-(good,bad,ugly) etc
[12:37] <Pantsu> install/build
[12:37] <k1l_> oomf_: you have no choice besides making your system supported again with going the upgrades
[12:37] <oomf_> god damnit
[12:37] <k1l_> Pantsu: dont do that
[12:37] <Pantsu> but you really should upgrade
[12:37] <OerHeks> Pantsu, useless, his release is EOL
[12:37] <yeats> oomf_: back up your files onto external media and reinstall ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[12:37] <oomf_> i will updte
[12:37] <oomf_> but i want to watch this video
[12:38] <oomf_> before tommorow
[12:38] <oomf_> but i guess thats now possible
[12:38] <embik> it is not
[12:38] <OerHeks> oomf_, you want but you can't right now
[12:38] <Pantsu> oomf_: download any live image, boot it and watch it from it?
[12:38] <oomf_> live image?
[12:38] <k1l_> oomf_: yes. update to 13.10 then 14.04 and than you can watch movies again
[12:39] <oomf_> ok then what are the default codecs for video
[12:39] <embik> oomf_: you should mind release circles next time :) i propose you use the LTS version 14.04, this will get updates for max 5 years
[12:39] <oomf_> myabe i can convert my video
[12:40] <yeats> !eolupgrade | oomf_
[12:40] <oomf_> yea i know i need to upgrade
[12:40] <yeats> oomf_: that's really your only option (at least it's all that would be supported in this channel ;-) )
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> oomf_: download vlc
[12:40] <k1l_> lotuspsychje: dont do that
[12:40] <oomf_> but what about the default codecs that come with the videos appliction
[12:41] <WyZeGuY> a
[12:41] <cfhowlett_> ask #mint
[12:41] <k1l_> oomf_: first make the upgrades. than you can go to the "vlc issue" :)
[12:41] <embik> the time you waste for wondering if you could convert the video (for what you need another application, most likely), you could backup your data and do the upgrade :)
[12:41] <oomf_> ok then
[12:42] <oomf_> i just downloaded some killer porn i wanted to watch tonight
[12:42] <embik> xd
[12:42] <oomf_> guess i gotta wait till tommorow
[12:42] <WyZeGuY> killer porn? is that the kind where they rape then murder?
[12:42] <oomf_> nope
[12:42] <oomf_> its featuring alexis texas
[12:42] <WyZeGuY> oh that's good for a second there i thought you were deranged
[12:43] <oomf_> one of the greatest porn stars
[12:43] <oomf_> of all time
[12:43] <k1l_> oomf_: drop that topic in here please.
[12:44] <oomf_> well thanks for all your help
[12:44] <nbat> hello! does somebody know how to skip partman in installer via preseed file?
[12:44] <oomf_> is there a commnd where i can update
[12:44] <usr13> oomf_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:44] <k1l_> oomf_: did you read the bots message? it was linked to you twice
[12:45] <embik> usr13: nope
[12:45] <usr13> embik: What?
[12:45] <oomf_> oh my bd
[12:45] <k1l_> !eolupgrade > oomf_
[12:45] <k1l_> usr13: upgrading a 13.04
[12:45] <embik> usr13: you cannot upgrade your ubuntu version with that
[12:46] <oomf_> oh
[12:46] <usr13> oomf_: sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:46] <nbat> how to skip automatic partitioning while installing the system?
[12:47] <usr13> embik: I know, but he just asked about update not for a distribution upgrade
[12:47] <cfhowlett_> bad command and wrong place for support ...
[12:47] <embik> usr13: distribution upgrade is the topic all the time :)
[12:48] <usr13> oomf_: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[12:48] <Deepfriedice> nbat: There should be a "manual partitioning" checkbox during the install.
[12:48] <k1l_> usr13: he runs a 13.04 and needs to adjust to old-releases first. but if he sticks to the wiki page he will accomplish
[12:49] <nbat> Deepfriedice: I mean to skip automatic partitioning completely and use own script for automatic partitioning and mounting, so that the installer will just take the state and install the system on it
[12:50] <usr13> k1l_: I see.  And we have already told him what to do. So he is just taking up space?
[12:50] <k1l_> usr13: i think he just needs some time to read the wiki page and will succeed then. :)
[12:51] <usr13> Yea ok.  Sorry.  I saw a question, I answered the question, (as was stated)....
[12:51] <k1l_> usr13: no biggie :)
[12:52] <LinuxInside> how does ist work with xset? I have no idea how can i stop darking up my screen in the screen lock mode.
[12:52] <LinuxInside> with STRG+ALT+L
[12:54] <usr13> LinuxInside: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9195437/
[12:55] <usr13> LinuxInside: Where ever you put it, just make a startup script that says xset what-ever...
[12:55] <Novice201y_> Hello. I'm logged in Ubuntu 14.10 on PC where disc is fully encrypted (done during Ubuntu installation). How can I remove encryption without reinstalling whole system?
[12:55] <viic_> hey
[12:55] <viic_> i use ssh a lot and in my /tmp folder i have noticed strange directories; like pulse-* and ssh-*. Should i remove them?
[12:56] <usr13> LinuxInside: But I do not know what you mean by "ist"
[12:56] <usr13> (don't know what "ist" is)
[12:56] <viic_> ps aux displays "ssh-agent", but my all ssh connections are closed (and ss prints no results). What happen?
[12:57] <usr13> viic_: That is normal
[12:57] <usr13> viic_: if you have sshd running
[12:57] <nbat> can somebody help to understand some automatic installer (partman, preseed) recipe things: "$defaultignore" and "$lvmignore" and how to create a physical lvm volume explicitly and use it for a VG, and then create in there some logical disks?
[12:57] <usr13> viic_: Oh well maybe not.
[12:57] <usr13> viic_: who
[12:58] <viic_> usr13: so even im not connected to ssh at the moment?
[12:58] <usr13> viic_: Look and see:  who
[12:58] <usr13> viic_: (Disregard my first response...)
[12:59] <viic_> no other users are logged in
[12:59] <viic_> (speaking of who)
[12:59] <usr13> viic_: (I looked to see if it was normal or not but inadvertently  looked at a box that has an ssh session active.)
[13:00] <viic_> so what having ssh-agent running (even i'm not connected to the internet!) and having ssh-* files in /tmp means?
[13:00] <viic_> is it something wrong, or it's supposed behavior?
[13:01] <viic_> who displays only one entry
[13:01] <usr13> viic_: How many users are logged in?
[13:01] <viic_> only me
[13:01] <usr13> viic_: Ok.
[13:01] <viic_> who:   root tty7
[13:01] <lnxmen> Hello
[13:01] <usr13> viic_: Your user name is "root"?
[13:02] <viic_> yup, I've logged as root to check that issue
[13:02] <viic_> other users are logged out (machine is after reboot)
[13:02] <rootgenie> How can i change the calendar system language?
[13:02] <usr13> viic_: So you have activated the root account on this system?
[13:02] <viic_> what do you mean?
[13:03] <viic_> ok, here how it looks like:
[13:03] <usr13> viic_: Are you logged into the xserver as root?
[13:03] <viic_> yup
[13:03] <usr13> viic_: Why?
[13:03] <viic_> xserver is graphical interface?
[13:03] <usr13> viic_: What is the user name, (the one you created when y ou installed?
[13:03] <usr13> Yes gui
[13:04] <viic_> Wait, I'll explain it a little bit clear.
[13:04] <usr13> viic_: Please do.
[13:04] <viic_> I have three accounts on the system: root, A, B. Each of them ran ssh on the system (but they closed the connection). After reboot, I've noticed in /tmp 3 directories ssh-*
[13:05] <viic_> When I log in (xserver) from A, or B, or root
[13:05] <usr13> viic_: So you have a regular user named "root"?
[13:05] <rootgenie> How can i change the calendar system language?
[13:05] <belgaat> Hi, Howcome I don't have ffprobe? Ffmpeg is installed tho.
[13:06] <viic_> and do ps aux | grep "ssh", I got entry:  "ssh-agent"
[13:06] <viic_> usr13: no, root is root-user
[13:06] <viic_> id  --> uid=0; gid0=; groups=0
[13:06] <usr13> viic_: What is user name you used when you first installed?
[13:06] <viic_> other users are non root
[13:06] <viic_> root?
[13:06] <viic_> i guess
[13:07] <usr13> viic_: OK. Well that is the one and only name I would NOT use.
[13:07] <viic_> is this issue somehow related to my problem? :)
[13:07] <viic_> with ssh-*
[13:07] <usr13> viic_: For rather obvious reasons:  It is *very* confusing.
[13:08] <viic_> root has root priviledges
[13:08] <viic_> as I said uid=0
[13:08] <usr13> viic_: admin priviledges
[13:08] <dorkusmaximus> will ubuntu benefit much if i upgrade from 4gb to 8gb?
[13:08] <viic_> but how is this related to my issue?
[13:08] <ikonia> dorkusmaximus: depends what you are doing
[13:08] <usr13> viic_: Look at the first line of /etc/group
[13:09] <kish> HI!
[13:09] <usr13> viic_: All I am saying is that "root" is not a good name for a user.
[13:09] <kish> How do I list what files have been installed when i ran apt-get install <file>
[13:09] <kish> I know I can run a find that lists all the new programs
[13:09] <kish> but I don't know if tht is optimal
[13:09] <viic_> usr13: so this talk was all about root-issue, and it's not related to my main problem with ssh-*? :)
[13:10] <usr13> viic_: Correct
[13:10] <viic_> thanks for wasting my time on offtopic then :)
[13:10] <viic_> anyone else could help me then?
[13:10] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning all
[13:10] <usr13> viic_: Oh, so you don't care about anyone else's time?
[13:10] <viic_> what are /tmpssh-* and /tmp/pulse-*  files?
[13:10] <test__> hi
[13:10] <viic_> user1: nope, 'cos it was your choice to offtopic me :)
[13:11] <dorkusmaximus> ikonia: usullay not much, although sometimes i run a virtual machine or two. ive been giving the virtual machines 768mb or 1.5gb of ram, depending. but i could give them more if i upgrade to 8
[13:11] <test__> i am trying to configure VPN connection in ubuntu 14.04
[13:11] <usr13> viic_: Sure is.  Good luck getting help from *anyone*.
[13:11] <ikonia> dorkusmaximus: always better to have more, but you won't notice any "response" difference
[13:11] <test__> ipvanish
[13:11] <test__> but it is hell slow
[13:11] <ikonia> viic_: man ssh-agent
[13:12] <test__> is it normal ?
[13:12] <dorkusmaximus> ikonia: oh...well that sux
[13:12] <viic_> ikonia: thank you :). So as I understand, ssh-agent will runs always when I login via gui?
[13:13] <ikonia> the agent runs as a process, but each user has a session
[13:13] <viic_> it's related to my login to the system, and it has nothing to my remote connections with ssh?
[13:13] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: can you pastebin a "free -m" ?
[13:14] <dorkusmaximus> ok one sec
[13:14] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: but more ram only makes advanteages if you really use ram heavy applications. a general desktop should work fine with way under 4GB. most ram is used for buffers and cache there
[13:15] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/YAzUxwm2
[13:15] <viic_> ikonia: I mean, that ssh-agent is not related to "ssh"? When I connect to remore machine via ssh (ssh account@remote.serv -i key) then ssh-agent has nothing to do with that connection, right? All it takes care is about login/logout to my local machine?
[13:15] <ikonia> viic_: it manages the auth of that connection
[13:15] <ikonia> viic_: again "man ssh-agent"
[13:16] <k1l_> d0rkusmaximus: see. you have 3.1GB free ram right now. 1.1GB are used for buffers and cache.
[13:16] <mjayk> is there a gnome ubuntu channel
[13:17] <k1l_> well no, 1.1GB are not even used anyway. (thats what i wanted to say)
[13:17] <viic_> "Through use of      environment variables the agent can be located and automatically used for      authentication when logging in to other machines using ssh"  - ok, got it now
[13:17] <viic_> ikonia: but why after reboot i still have more than one ssh-* in /tmp? Shoudn't be these files removed
[13:17] <ikonia> depends, on many things
[13:17] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, this is with virtual machines open: http://pastebin.com/sQrgBiQ7
[13:17] <ikonia> viic_: what's the actual problem ?
[13:19] <viic_> ikonia: I have no ssh connections to remote machine. I'm after reboot. I see 3 directories ssh-* in my /tmp. Shoudn't I have only one? The rest should be removed after reboot?
[13:19] <ikonia> viic_: depends on what those connections are to, from,
[13:19] <ikonia> viic_: depends how your ssh agent is configured
[13:19] <k1l_> d0rkusmaximus: see, still 0.9GB free :) so you could give your vboxes more ram anyway if needed. "more ram is always better" but not really needed. if you want to increase the ram usage on vbox then it would make sense.
[13:19] <ikonia> viic_: I would not waste time worrying about this
[13:21] <viic_> ikonia: are these files in ssh-* contain any secret information? Just wondering, what's the potential risk, if someone manage to steal ssh-* content
[13:21] <ikonia> viic_: no they are not
[13:21] <ikonia> they are basically socket files
[13:21] <dorkusmaximus> k1l_: ok. it seems to still run smooth with 2 VM's open. bogs down with 3 open, but then i dont really have any reason to have 3 open at once.
[13:22] <viic_> ikonia: and one more question, I've asked before. There are also pulse-* files in /tmp. WHat are these files?
[13:22] <ikonia> same thing, pulse audio
[13:22] <viic_> what to "man" to read more about it?
[13:23] <ikonia> read about pulse audio
[13:24] <viic_> ikonia: ok, thank you a lot :)
[13:25] <dorkusmaximus> damn, i shouldnt have opened 3 vm's. i cant hardly move the mouse pointer on the linux box anymore
[13:26] <dorkusmaximus> i think im gonna have to hard power off
[13:27] <monika_> kh
[13:28] <userubuntu> my screen autimatically turns of while watching youtube i have power managamenet all disabled but this happens any idea? I am using xubuntu 14.04. Thanks
[13:29] <compdoc> userubuntu, maybe your vid card is overheating. does it have a fan? is it clogged with dust?
[13:29] <userubuntu> yeah this happens only when watching youtube no problme  on vlc and all
[13:29] <dorkusmaximus> check your settings under brightness and lock tab?
[13:31] <userubuntu> yup not working :(
[13:32] <dorkusmaximus> you got some legacy screensaver program running? sometimes programs like vlc have a setting to ignore the screensaver, whereas youtube wont
[13:32] <userubuntu> nope i havnt have anything running except the screensaver service from xubuntu
[13:36] <belgianguy> userubuntu: both in Flash and HTML5 ?
[13:36] <userubuntu> no idea abt html5 but flash the monitor dims
[13:37] <belgianguy> Flash here is able to pass by the 'screensaver', eg the screen locks but the movie keeps playing, until the end, and then it's stuck there
[13:37] <userubuntu> yeah thats the thing movie plays but screen dims
[13:37] <userubuntu> we could hear sound..screen dosnt get locked
[13:38] <belgianguy> userubuntu: IIRC you can force it into HTML5, not that it solves your issue, but it would point to Flash as being the culprit
[13:39] <userubuntu> i triend installing caffein as listed here but the programme doesnt exucet http://askubuntu.com/questions/171143/how-to-prevent-my-screen-from-either-dimming-or-the-screen-lock-starting-when-wa
[13:41] <belgianguy> userubuntu: yeah I have it installed as well, but it doesn't help, or isn't able to stop the screen from dimming
[13:41] <userubuntu> i see..so i guess its a known bug?
[13:50] <softballs> anyone that could help me with gdb/valgrind?
[13:55] <dorkusmaximus> hmm
[13:55] <dorkusmaximus> damnit
[13:55] <dorkusmaximus> system monitor says "swap not available"
[13:55] <dorkusmaximus> i have a swap partition
[13:56] <dorkusmaximus> cat /etc/fstab
[13:56] <k1l_> can you pastebin "mount" and "cat /etc/fstab" and "sudo fdisk -l" (small L at the end)
[13:56] <d0rkusmaximus> k
[13:56] <d0rkusmaximus> one sec
[13:57] <wgetME> hi, We want to buy two new PC for Office use, printing/scanning/word/excel/web, we want to know what is the potential of Ubuntu 14.04 in our use case also what kinda hardware would be best for a 5 yrs of use from now?
[13:58] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/3N1vNYgR
[13:58] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, LTS has 5 years of support so 14.04 >> 16.04
[13:58] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, word?  excel?  on linux?  no: libreoffice, openoffice or kinsoft WPS
[13:59] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: LibreOffice is most loved by the users of my office too, so that would be fine, Is Flash supported ?
[13:59] <wgetME> as we might need flash for various sites as of now
[13:59] <cfhowlett_> !flash | wgetME,
[14:00] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: is Flash outdated on Linux ?
[14:00] <k1l_> d0rkusmaximus: ah its a gpt hdd. so please use gdisk instead of fdisk
[14:00] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, no, flash is doable
[14:00] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, and here is mount: http://pastebin.com/aesi6eHM
[14:01] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: ok, do we need to install Antivirus and internet security ?
[14:01] <cfhowlett_> !virus
[14:01] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: ok I like your way to explaining things with links and all
[14:01] <wgetME> way of*
[14:01] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: Paid/Commercial Support ?
[14:01] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, if i try sudo gdisk -l, it gives me this: Problem opening -l for reading! Error is 2.
[14:01] <wgetME> like a number to dial ?
[14:02] <cfhowlett_> wgetME fwiw: there is a list of compatible and OEM hardware.  paid support is available from canonical.
[14:03] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: ok, thanks for information, are scanners/printer supported by Ubuntu ?
[14:03] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, check it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[14:03] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: ok
[14:04] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, more updated info:  http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[14:04] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: one more question, if I am planning to buy stuff under a 5 yr hardware warranty program, should I go with i5 4th gen 3.3 Ghz or i3-4130 is just fine ?
[14:05] <k1l_> d0rkusmaximus: sgdisk -p
[14:05] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, my opinion: lots of memory, i7 chipset
[14:05] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: for office use ?
[14:05] <OerHeks> i5 is a beast too
[14:05] <wgetME> i5 3.3 ghz quad core
[14:05] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, consider a custom build, too.
[14:05] <wgetME> or i3 3.4 ghz dual core
[14:05] <wgetME> are the option we have
[14:05] <cfhowlett_> i3 is still being made???  :)
[14:06] <wgetME> ya
[14:06] <wgetME> i3-4130 is a powerful processor
[14:06] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, unless you are doing graphics type stuff ... sounds like you've got a plan
[14:06] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: seriously i7?
[14:06] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: we might do basic picture editing
[14:07] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: is Autodesk supported ?
[14:07] <wgetME> dwg viewer
[14:07] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, ignore that.  I forgot not everyone runs my use case.  speaking of GPU: intel graphics or nvidia.  avoid amd for now.
[14:07] <dorkusmaximus> k1l_: there is no output for sgdisk -p or sudo sgdisk -p. it just gives me the command line again.
[14:07] <k1l_> i hate gpt
[14:07] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, autodesk ... that's a pretty special use and isn't known for great linux support ... but let me look again
[14:08] <dorkusmaximus> sudo swapon -s doesnt show anything. but i definitely have a swap partition
[14:08] <dorkusmaximus> ubuntu just isnt using it
[14:08] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: ok, isn't i3-4130 with 8gig of RAM and 7200rpm HDD enough for 5 yrs of decent performance ?
[14:08] <wgetME> with Ubuntu
[14:09] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: see in whatever program can list gpt stuff if its sda6 still a swap and if the blkid is matching
[14:10] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, I would guess so, but the critical issue is going to be needs not seeing a lot of active autodesk users mentioning linux.  I suppose dual boot is an option?
[14:10] <dimas_> hi
[14:10] <dorkusmaximus> k1l_: ok, i used sudo gdisk and then p to print. /dev/sda6 is 4gb of swap space
[14:10] <nedal> Hi, I m new on linux. I was using windows and I really love the linux word. the thing that I cant use to is those commands, should I know them all? Besides, why working as root is dangerous ?
[14:11] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: sudo blkid and see if the uuid is mtching the one in fstab
[14:11] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: no only Ubuntu
[14:11] <wgetME> no Windows licenses at all
[14:12] <wgetME> we want to switch to GNU/Linux fully
[14:12] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, there are autodesk FOSS alternatives but if you need autodesk specifically, linux doesnt seem to offer much support
[14:12] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/7rHNzyk3
[14:12] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, nice.  I'm certain there's a a channel/resource/history for that but I'm not up on the subject.
[14:12] <EriC^^> nedal: no you don't need to know all the commands, but the more you know the easier doing tasks will be and you'll be able to do more stuff, just learn as you go, about root it's dangerous as any mistake in a command could damage your system.
[14:13] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, see linuxCAD
[14:13] <k1l_> d0rkusmaximus: blkid doesnt even list swap?
[14:13] <dorkusmaximus> nope, no /dev/sda6 output from blkid
[14:13] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: ok I would use it, so i3-4130 enough ? or should buy i5 ?
[14:14] <k1l_> d0rkusmaximus: is it a swap format at all?
[14:14] <dorkusmaximus> ya, the gdisk output is above that. it shows code 8200 which is swap
[14:14] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, ram.  Lots and lots of ram.  especially for graphics ...
[14:15] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: 8 GB is fine ?
[14:16] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, fire up your software center and search for CAD.  I'd say 8 gb is the MINIMUM.  Test the rendering with Inkscape scenes and you'll see what I mean.
[14:16] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: i dont know. i hate gpt stuff and have no experience with that. you could do a sudo mount -a and see the error. or look into dmesg what is says for swap.
[14:16] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, RAM and gpu memory are the key considerations I would say.
[14:16] <frecel> does anyone know what package is the command apt from? I don't mean apt-get apt-cache etc. I mean the new apt command that allows to do sudo apt install [package] instead of sudo apt-get install [package]
[14:17] <nedal> EriC^^: I'm using Ubuntu, but I heard that there is other distributions more interesting . is it true? knowing that I'm just an amateur but also a network engineering student
[14:17] <dorkusmaximus> k1l_: ok, thanks. ill see what i can figure out. i just started using gpt this past week.
[14:17] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: I would go with i5 then
[14:17] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, actually there are a couple of design studios I can point you towards ... wait 1
[14:17] <EriC^^> !info apt | frecel
[14:19] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: maybe gpt swap doesnt have uuids. so use sda6 in fstab
[14:19] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, private message??
[14:20] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: sure
[14:20] <dorkusmaximus> k1l_: i have a new drive. i used clonezilla to put everything on the new drive last night. would the UUID change during a clone?
[14:24] <Galadriel_LOTR> lut!
[14:24] <gubano> Hi. Which ports do i need to open in my firewall to allow ubuntu software updater communication?
[14:25] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, looks like UUID changes when clonezilla is used: http://fogproject.org/forum/threads/imaging-linux-systems-uuid-for-swap-not-matching-on-deployed-systems-eh.10901/ so i guess maybe thats my prob. ill try using the device name like you suggested
[14:27] <OerHeks> gubano, port 22 i guess
[14:28] <Galadriel_LOTR> where are you from?
[14:28] <gubano> Oerheks: tried but it didnt work
[14:31] <EriC^^> gubano: try port 80
[14:32] <OerHeks> EriC^^ good one
[14:32] <gubano> eric: port 80 and 443 is already open.
[14:32] <OerHeks> dns port 63?
[14:33] <johan__> hello
[14:33] <OerHeks> see #methode 2 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity/Firewall
[14:33] <gubano> yeah, port 53 (which i assume is what you ment) is open
[14:33] <gubano> ok, will check the link
[14:34] <EriC^^> OerHeks: it might be closed, who knows
[14:34] <nedal_> Hi, I would like to know what does the total number on ls -l command refers to
[14:38] <gubano> is there any difference using software update vs apt-get ?
[14:39] <uranellus> nedal_: It's the count of 512-byte blocks used by the files in the directory.
[14:40] <plotino> hello
[14:40] <plotino> updating debian from squeeze to wheezy
[14:40] <plotino> as GUI currently only twm wors properly
[14:41] <plotino> gnome shell crash while gnome classic is worngly displayed: black borders with no menus
[14:41] <DJones> plotino: For debian support, you'll need to ask in #debian
[14:41] <plotino> can u hep me?
[14:41] <android22> apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:41] <OerHeks> plotino, wrong channel for support.
[14:41] <plotino> i suppose the problem is not distro dependent
[14:41] <embik> so what?
[14:41] <embik> there is #debian
[14:42] <NikTh> plotino:  I suppose it is distro depended and also depends on how you tried to upgrade.
[14:42] <android22> apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:43] <cfhowlett_> plotino, debian not supported here.  go to #debian
[14:43] <felon> whats a good program to create a virtual hotspot for my other devices in ubuntu 14.04
[14:43] <dorkusmaximus> k1l_: swap works now...i had to reformat the partition with mkswap. then it gave me a new UUID and i pasted into fstab.
[14:44] <nedal_> uranellus_: can you explain more? why exactly 512 byte blocks ? plus, if there is a sub-directory in the listing how is it expressed on the total number?
[14:44] <NikTh> felon: I think the pre-installed network manager can handle hotspots, but I've never tried.
[14:46] <android22> felon: you can google for "ubuntu softap"
[14:46] <Awzuu> Question: Can anyone say me why backports are active by default in Ubuntu Server 14.04?
[14:48] <cfhowlett_> Awzuu, pretty sure they are NOT active by default, but if so .. turn em off!
[14:48] <android22> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[14:48] <OerHeks> Awzuu, that is default since 11.10
[14:48] <cfhowlett_> OerHeks, on server only?  cuz I have to set the desktop manually ...
[14:49] <Awzuu> OerHeks: Can you say me why backports are active by default. I think such packages are not good at productive systems
[14:49] <OerHeks> cfhowlett_, i guess 14.04/10  desktop too, i have them on.
[14:52] <NikTh> 9 mothns from October is June or July ?
[14:52] <cfhowlett_> NikTh, use finger and toes ... you'll get it
[14:53] <OerHeks> 8 months from now, NikTh
[14:53] <NikTh> cfhowlett_:  I've used them already but I need a confirmation, use yours as well and tell me :)
[14:54] <Seveas> If you need confirmation for this, it's time to go back to kindergarten
[14:54] <OerHeks> Awzuu, yes, there are reasons not to enable it, though those backports are requested by the community, not bu default.
[14:54] <OerHeks> *by
[14:54] <Awzuu> Are at Ubuntu Server 14.04 only 'main' and 'restricted'-packages or also 'universe' or 'multiverse'. Don't know how to check
[14:55] <Seveas> Awzuu: Ubuntu server uses the same repos as Ubuntu, so you have universe and multiverse too
[14:55] <OerHeks> Awzuu, nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:56] <EriC^^> Awzuu: type cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:56] <NikTh> Ok, let me reveille what was my thought at first time :  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases is there a typo or not ? (for Unicorn EOL)
[14:56] <Awzuu> Sorry, I meant if I install Ubuntu: Are there packages installed from 'universe' or 'multiverse' by default.
[14:57] <BluesKaj_> Awzuu, both
[14:57] <NikTh> Awzuu:  Here you can see the default pre-installed packages for Ubuntu 14.04 : http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.manifest
[14:57] <Awzuu> BluesKaj_: How can I check which packages?
[14:58] <EriC^^> Awzuu: that's the list of the packages on the live session, not the installed one
[14:58] <Awzuu> NikTh: Thank you, but I know this page. Unfortunately it doesn't show from which components the packages are
[14:59] <Seveas> NikTh: that is probably just a simple mistake.
[14:59] <Seveas> Awzuu: no Ubuntu variant installs packages from universe by default.
[14:59] <BluesKaj_> Awzuu, you can check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[14:59] <Seveas> s/no/no supported/
[15:00] <NikTh> EriC^^:  Those packages I thought there are the packages will be installed by default in a fresh installation, isn't that true ?
[15:01] <Awzuu> Sevas: And from multiverse?
[15:01] <Seveas> Awzuu: same.
[15:01] <Awzuu> BluesKaj_: Well, is there a command I can see all my installed packages with their component (main, restricted, ...)?
[15:02] <ajinkya> hello everyone
[15:02] <EriC^^> NikTh: no, those are the packages in the live session, for instance gparted is there but it's removed before the installation finishes.
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> Awzuu  try apt-cache show [package]
[15:03] <Seveas> Awzuu: not that I know of. You could get somewhere with dpkg -l, xargs and apt-cache policy :)
[15:03] <EriC^^> Awzuu: this would list all the packages that are installed by default along with the info of where they came from gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u | xargs apt-cache show
[15:04] <BluesKaj_> Awzuu, not that I know of , you choose aparticular package in the package manager and check the repos component
[15:04] <NikTh> EriC^^: Correct. Gparted is a good example. So where someone can find the packages that will be installed by default in a fresh Ubuntu installation?
[15:04] <Seveas> Hello ajinkya! How can we help you?
[15:04] <EriC^^> NikTh: check the command above
[15:04] <NikTh> EriC^^: I mean, some list like manifest (online).
[15:04] <EriC^^> NikTh: /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz
[15:04] <ajinkya> Hello guys , I am using linux mint 17, I am developing one java application , for that i want to access system inbuilt word dictionary. So is there any solution for this ?
[15:05] <Seveas> !mint | ajinkya
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> ajinkya  ask in the mint channel
[15:05] <ajinkya> oopss
[15:05] <ajinkya> sorry guys
[15:05] <NikTh> Seveas: Thanks for the confirmation. I will correct the wiki page. :-)
[15:05] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, https://www.reddit.com/r/cad/comments/2lvayj/buying_a_new_cad_desktop_machine_how_specd_out_is/
[15:06] <Awzuu> Thank you, EriC^^. But normally all packages which are installed by default comes from main and restricted, correct?
[15:06] <paul_> Hi Guys... If using the backup utility in Ubuntu 14 .. when it creates a second back up does it just add new items ?
[15:07] <EriC^^> Awzuu: i guess so, if you add | grep universe to the command it returns nothing
[15:08] <Seveas> Awzuu: correct.
[15:09] <NikTh> Awzuu: Main and Restricted it says here too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[15:10] <BluesKaj_> Awzuu, why don't you tell us your real concern here, why are you worried about which package repos are default?
[15:10] <Guest47059> الو
[15:10] <Awzuu> BluesKaj_: Only because of interest
[15:11] <Guest47059> Hi
[15:11] <Guest47059> I am just trying the server :)
[15:11] <OerHeks> Awzuu, one option during install, is giving Landscape control over updates ;-)
[15:12] <NikTh> BluesKaj_: a potential "real" concern could be : Is Ubuntu a real open source distribution? Is Ubuntu includes any closed source/restricted software by default ?
[15:12] <Guest47059> Hi people, may I ask you to help me to install windows driver for my USB Oscilloscope on Ubunto?
[15:12] <OerHeks> NikTh, closed software not, you must enable it yourself
[15:12] <teward> Guest47059: have you checked if there's a Linux driver?
[15:13] <NikTh> OerHeks:  ;-)
[15:13] <Guest47059> Yes there is not
[15:15] <BluesKaj_> NikTh, OerHeks answered your question
[15:15] <flexus> Guest47059: you may check if kernel finds the scope
[15:17] <NikTh> BluesKaj_: Well, was not actually my question, but a potential newcomer Ubuntu user concern, that reads false accusations "here and there" in the web :-)
[15:18] <dinosaur_> Could you please help me setting up exim4 on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[15:18] <BluesKaj_> NikTh, just remind the potential new Ubuntu user that the repos are virus free so far
[15:18] <dinosaur_> I installed it, but when I issue service exim4 start, I can't see anything in ps auwx | grep exim
[15:19] <ikonia> dinosaur_: what are you trying to do with exim ?
[15:21] <dinosaur_> ikonia: I want to set this server up so I could send mails with it. I tried: echo "Test" | mail -s "Test" root and it gave me :
[15:21] <dinosaur_> "/home/dragon/dead.letter" 9/200
[15:21] <dinosaur_> . . . message not sent.
[15:21] <dinosaur_> */usr/lib/sendmail: No such file or directory as the first line
[15:21] <ikonia> dinosaur_: you want to send them externally or internally ?
[15:22] <dinosaur_> ikonia: for a good start, it will be enough for me if I will be able to send them to root. Finally, I would like to be able to send them to my host machine.
[15:22] <ikonia> your host machine ?
[15:22] <ikonia> dinosaur_: you know ubuntu comes with postfix installed by default that is already setup to send internal mail ?
[15:23] <dinosaur_> ikonia: but I would like to learn exim
[15:23] <ikonia> ok, so learn exim then
[15:24] <dinosaur_> ikonia: do you know why it returns the error messages I presented?
[15:24] <ikonia> how did you install exim
[15:24] <dinosaur_> apt-get install exim4 and then dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
[15:25] <ikonia> did you remove postfix
[15:25] <dinosaur_> update-exim4.conf then
[15:25] <dinosaur_> No, I did not remove postfix
[15:25] <WyZeGuY> http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=oDNbp2S
[15:25] <dinosaur_> Should I?
[15:25] <WyZeGuY> http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=lw8UVCH
[15:25] <ikonia> dinosaur_: well 2 mta's won't work
[15:25] <ikonia> WyZeGuY: top
[15:25] <ikonia> stop
[15:25] <dinosaur_> ikonia: OK, I will try that, thanks
[15:25] <WyZeGuY> i'm providing screenshots of my terminal and what it says about wifi
[15:26] <WyZeGuY> ikonia ^
[15:26] <ikonia> WyZeGuY: explain your problem - don't just paste random screen shots
[15:26] <dinosaur_> ikonia: apt-get remove postfix returned package postfix is not installed
[15:26] <ikonia> dinosaur_: so exim should have removed it then, which is good
[15:26] <ikonia> dinosaur_: so the first thing is to try to get exim started
[15:26] <ikonia> dinosaur_: then find out where the symlink to sendmail is - and why it's missing
[15:26] <ikonia> then sort your ocnfig
[15:26] <ikonia> config
[15:26] <WyZeGuY> ikonia, sorry, i figured the picture was worth more. i've tried explaining it to several linux users, and no one knows what to do, but most people agree there is a solution
[15:27] <ikonia> no-one knows what to do - but they know there is a solution, seems pointless
[15:28] <WyZeGuY> i know, that's why i figured i'd show you guys screenshots. maybe someone would see what the problem was
[15:28] <ikonia> just expain the problem
[15:28] <ikonia> or at least a summery
[15:28] <WyZeGuY> ok here we go again
[15:28] <SchrodingersScat> !details
[15:28] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: is this a Lenovo?
[15:29] <WyZeGuY> what's a lenovo?
[15:29] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: a brand of laptop
[15:29] <dinosaur_> ikonia: which exim returns nothing, is this OK?
[15:29] <WyZeGuY> no an Asus
[15:29] <WyZeGuY> Asus q502la
[15:29] <ikonia> dinosaur_: don't worry about that -
[15:30] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: and which ubuntu?
[15:30] <ikonia> dinosaur_: it should be in /usr/sbin
[15:30] <ikonia> dinosaur_: check it is
[15:30] <WyZeGuY> wifi won't work. Asus Q502L, Intel 7260 card, driver is in the /lib/firmware folder, not being recognized by computer.
[15:30] <dinosaur_> ikonia: A lot of exim binaries there, but not "exim" itself
[15:30] <WyZeGuY> may i post the screen shots now?
[15:31] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: you already did.
[15:31] <WyZeGuY> there are more
[15:31] <ikonia> dinosaur_: check what the startup script is trying to call
[15:31] <ikonia> WyZeGuY: "not working" isn't helpful
[15:31] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: so i shall ask for the second time, which ubuntu version?
[15:31] <WyZeGuY> i tried all of the wifi inquiry commands i could find on google
[15:31] <ikonia> explaining what you've done to get it working, and in what way it's failing
[15:31] <WyZeGuY> 14.10
[15:31] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: do you have an interface besides eth0 from "ifconfig -a" ?
[15:32] <WyZeGuY> daftykinsjust eth0 and lo
[15:32] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: and "rfkill list all" ?
[15:32] <WyZeGuY> that's in one of my screenshots
[15:32] <WyZeGuY> nothing's blocked
[15:33] <WyZeGuY> i could post all of my screenshots...?
[15:33] <ikonia> stop with screen shots
[15:33] <ikonia> just give the info you are asked for
[15:33] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: how many more are we talking? images of text are incredibly inefficient
[15:33] <WyZeGuY> 6 total
[15:34] <dinosaur_> ikonia: It will take some time, but I got the idea perhaps I should install daemon-heavy or light, not just exim4 itself?
[15:34] <WyZeGuY> including ifconfig, iwconfig, lspci, rfkill, modinfo, lsmod, iwlist scanning
[15:34] <ikonia> dinosaur_: why would you do that ?
[15:35] <WyZeGuY> daftykins, may i PM you the screenshots?
[15:35] <DemHydraz> Hello, I have changed my locale today, and I accidentally closed the 'Rename default folders' prompt thing, how can I reopen it?
[15:35] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: type sudo modprobe iwlmvm
[15:35] <WyZeGuY> ok
[15:35] <WyZeGuY> nothing came up
[15:36] <dinosaur_> ikonia: because /usr/sbin/exim4 is tried to be called in the startup script, but it does not exist. Perhaps it is necessary to install the daemon. OK, let's see. BRB
[15:36] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: from 'ifconfig -a' ?
[15:37] <ikonia> dinosaur_: sorry, I don't understand why you want to install non-exim packages to fix exim
[15:37] <Awzuu> Another question: If I buy webspace from a webhoster I can upload data with FTP for example and in the FTP-program I have only access to my website-dictionary. How can I configure my Ubuntu Server to offer this solution for other people?
[15:37] <ikonia> Awzuu: you don't
[15:37] <ikonia> Awzuu: you learn the basics of web hosting before offering it to other people
[15:38] <Awzuu> ikonia: Well, of course. But it would be interesting how is works.
[15:38] <ikonia> Awzuu: it works by locking the directories via permissions
[15:38] <frankfurt> weerwr
[15:39] <ikonia> or setting the root of the server to an isolated area
[15:39] <zykotick9> Awzuu: ftp servers usually have a chroot-type feature...
[15:39] <SchrodingersScat> !sftp
[15:39] <Awzuu> zykotick9: As far as I know chroot is not a security feature in Linux, is it?
[15:40] <zykotick9> Awzuu: it is... kinda...
[15:40] <ikonia> Awzuu: this goes back to the "learn the basics" approach
[15:41] <bigsyesser> ikonia: You tell them boy.
[15:42] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: follow this or install a newer kernel to solve your problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242147&p=13112184#post13112184
[15:44] <zykotick9> Awzuu: fyi, from proftpd, i guess they call it DefaultRoot http://www.proftpd.org/docs/howto/Chroot.html
[15:45] <zykotick9> ^ ftp needs to die in a fire
[15:48] <ChoiKyuSang> choiks〃test
[15:49] <zykotick9> ChoiKyuSang: test failed ;)
[15:49] <ChoiKyuSang> yes, tset complete.
[15:49] <ChoiKyuSang> test
[15:49] <ChoiKyuSang> choks is my linux virtual machine
[15:52] <daftykins> !test | ChoiKyuSang
[15:53] <choiks> I need only '〃' character
[15:55] <AstroRyan> hey there does anyone know where i can connect to linux mint channel?
[15:55] <DJones> !mint | AstroRyan
[15:55] <ChoiKyuSang> ##linuxmint
[15:55] <ChoiKyuSang> and irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint-chat
[15:57] <AstroRyan> thanks
[16:00] <sere> anyone know how to stop mini dlna media server from running at startup?
[16:03] <curt> Hi guys, my "additional drivers" section is not showing any nvidia drivers at all and I cant activate my nvidia card with prime
[16:03] <curt>  I resolved this issue last week by removing a PPA for xorg edgers and reverting to the original and everythign worked great
[16:03] <curt>  but now its back to showing no drivers, im not sure if its because of a software update or what
[16:05] <Ingrid23>  There is no such thing as Free Porn http://bitly.com/1nx3K4c
[16:06] <SchrodingersScat> !spam | Ingrid23
[16:06] <cfhowlett_> Ingrid23, go away
[16:06] <curt> I really want to click that link but I also dont
[16:06] <curt> can anyone help me with my video card issue? I ha resolved it last week, everythign worked fine but now im back to showing no drivers in "additional drivers" and only my intel card works
[16:06] <JYD> Guys,, what am I missing? I ditched light--locker(purged btw) and installed xscreensaver. Now 2 things happen,, in the "screensaver" settings dialog I enabled "lock screen after 10 minutes". In 10 minutes,, the screen goes blank,, however it doesn't lock it until after about 30 minutes. And the second thing,, the xscreensaver login dialog is blank(can't see it) however I can see the mouse, and I can input the password blindly, although it works. What
[16:06] <JYD> the f.
[16:07] <JYD> For some reason,, I remember pre 14.04 when xscreensaver was the default,, there were more options within the power-manager and xscreensaver dialog.
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> JYD  ok, but drop the strong language
[16:09] <jhutchins_wk> JYD: Options are bad.  The powers that be have decided that screensavers are old and no longer relevant.
[16:09] <jhutchins_wk> JYD: You will conform.
[16:11] <MarkNew2Ubuntu> Hi guys im new to ubuntu and im having an issuse with brightness on my Sony Vaio laptop. Can anyone help?
[16:12] <cynixx3> MarkNew2Ubuntu, usually you can fn+rightarrow.
[16:12] <EriC^^> MarkNew2Ubuntu: what's the problem?
[16:12] <MarkNew2Ubuntu> the function key dont change brightness and the brightness app in settins wont change it either
[16:13] <JYD> MonkeyDust, Did "f" offend you?
[16:13] <JYD> Did "f" offend anyone?
[16:13] <saverio> buona sera a tutti
[16:13] <JYD> Are we boys or men?
[16:13] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: What are earth? You in the matrix or something? KDE thinks they're still relevant :P
[16:13] <OerHeks> channelpolicy, JYD
[16:13] <cynixx3> :( I wonder if you need a monitor driver. Never needed that for linux before though. so I dono.
[16:14] <EriC^^> MarkNew2Ubuntu: try xbacklight
[16:14] <EriC^^> MarkNew2Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xbacklight
[16:15] <JYD> OerHeks, Well if it's policy.
[16:15] <cynixx3> JYD. Try the Brightness and Lock app to change the 30minute time limit.
[16:16] <MarkNew2Ubuntu> ok ive installed it
[16:16] <JYD> cynixx3, Forgive me I'm using xubuntu.
[16:17] <JYD> Or should I say XFCE
[16:17] <EriC^^> MarkNew2Ubuntu: ok, try xbacklight -set 40
[16:17] <JYD> Don't have a Brightness and Lock app
[16:18] <MarkNew2Ubuntu> the command didnt change anything
[16:19] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: Seriously, it's in the mailing list.  Screensaver = bad.
[16:19] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: Show me this travesty
[16:20] <SecEng> So i am having an issue install ubuntu. I have used the same install media on the same HW 5 times, trying to get 3 more built. and it fails to install trying to DL the kernel
[16:20] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: Sorry, you'll have to find it yourself.  A little google for screensaver 14.04 should do it.
[16:20] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: k
[16:20] <SecEng> the error says the image cant be authenticated, and -y was used without --force-yes
[16:21] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: um?
[16:21] <JYD> Nooooobody knows the trouble I've seen. Nobody knows but Jeeeesuuuus.
[16:22] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: I was a little surprized (not much considering recent gnome policy), I used my Ubuntu system 99% for a slideshow.
[16:22] <cynixx3> kinda of overkill for a slide show system.
[16:22] <SecEng> anyone have any suggestions? i tried switching mirrors
[16:23] <SecEng> 14.04.1 server
[16:23] <cynixx3> wouldnt damn small linux be better for just running a slideshow jhutchins_wk?
[16:24] <jhutchins_wk> cynixx3: No need for economy, the box was perfectly capable of running ubuntu.  Also served for ubuntu reference, ssh terminal, misc. Linux tasks.  Gone now.
[16:24] <k1l> SecEng: show the error in a pastebin.
[16:25] <cynixx3> jhutchins_wk, so what problem are you having?
[16:25] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: I have 0 problems with xscreensaver on Xubuntu; I dunno what they're talking about.
[16:26] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: It's disabled on recent releases, there's a workaround but it requires some configuration.
[16:27] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: They think that it's a waste of power, potentially distracting in public environments or multi-user applications.  Something like that, it's not like I memorize and permanently link dumb stuff.
[16:27] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: I was running xfce too.
[16:27] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: Well that I could understand, I guess.
[16:27] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: No workaround needed btw... just purge light-locker firts
[16:27] <SonikkuAmerica> *first
[16:29] <jhutchins_wk> Yeah, I fixed it a couple months ago when 12.04 auto-updated to 14.04 but the system's gone now and I've moved on.
[16:29] <SecEng> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9198589/
[16:29] <sere> anyone know how to stop mini dlna media server from running at startup?
[16:31] <cynixx3> SecEng, is that paste from an attempted upgrade?
[16:32] <SecEng> fresh install
[16:32] <SecEng> i am at a corporate environment, with a proxy
[16:32] <cynixx3> a fresh install is failing. Are you sure the install DVD has been verified?
[16:33] <cfhowlett> also verify the .iso
[16:33] <SecEng> i did verify media and that came back clean.
[16:34] <SecEng> also, i used this media (USB drive) 5 other times 1 month ago on the exact same HW
[16:34] <cynixx3> I find it odd that in your paste linux-headers are considered an extra package.
[16:34] <SecEng> it looks like its trying to download the files
[16:34] <SecEng> from the mirror, in fact almost every file from the install was downloaded (it seems like), my proxy is logging all the requests
[16:35] <guest-QI8Zz7> Hello
[16:35] <guest-QI8Zz7> where can I go to for issues with Ubuntu?
[16:36] <k1l> guest-QI8Zz7: this is the right channel
[16:36] <teward> guest-QI8Zz7: you're in the Ubuntu community support channel, you can start here.
[16:36] <guest-QI8Zz7> Ok thanks
[16:36] <gothic1> Who decides which fonts get standardly installed for all the unicode
[16:36] <gothic1> Somebody decided to standardly give you a horrible, unreadable font, for the Gothic language.
[16:37] <gothic1> Which doesn't even match the actual ancient Gothic manuscripts.
[16:37] <cynixx3> :(
[16:37] <gothic1> I want to know who decided that and why.
[16:37] <cfhowlett> gothic1, because there are no ancient goth ubuntu users
[16:37] <k1l> gothic1: no. it is just that gothic is not a that big issue to most users. not to say all user beside a handfull of others
[16:37] <k1l> gothic1: so file a bug for that and contribute that "the right" font is used
[16:38] <cfhowlett> gothic1, tis ^^^^
[16:38] <cfhowlett> *this*
[16:38] <gothic1> cfhowlett: Then you are wrong, because I 'm a regular contributor at the Gothic wikipedia, and I use linux, but I currently simply can't read articles well, because there are dozens of good fonts, but for some reason the worst font was choosen for Linux.
[16:38] <gothic1> k1l: Where can I file a bug?
[16:38] <k1l> !bug | gothic1
[16:38] <BluesKaj> standardly? there's a new one
[16:40]  * cfhowlett thinks "Now if only someone would fix that funky Klingon font!"
[16:41] <gothic1> cfhowlett: But Klingon uses Latin script.
[16:41] <gothic1> cfhowlett: So that's different.
[16:41] <nedal_> Hi, I want to know the block size of my file system. what command should I use ?
[16:41] <gothic1> cfhowlett: But I registered a Launchpad account, but if I want to file a bug against a program, I don't really know which program to mention,
[16:42] <daftykins> nedal_: might be best if you tell us what you're trying to do
[16:42] <k1l> gothic1: we cant help you with that issue in here. please file a bug for the fonts and see if you can solve it with the maintainers
[16:42] <nedal_> I m trying to figure out what the total number on ls -l command refers to
[16:43] <cynixx3> nedal_,  to your first question. blockdev --getbsz /dev/sda
[16:43] <gothic1> k1l: Ok, if you explain me where at Launchpad.net I can report bugs
[16:43] <k1l> nedal_: for folders its just 4096
[16:45] <k1l> gothic search for the package/program, then on the right side on that packages page its "report a bug"
[16:45] <nedal_> so what s the relation between 4096 and the total number ?
[16:45] <k1l> gothic1: or you use ubuntu-bug packagename     in terminal
[16:45] <gothic1> k1l: Well, the package/program is the whole ubuntu system at which the font is used. It's a system font.
[16:45] <gothic1> so the packagename is:   ubuntu
[16:45] <gothic1> ?
[16:46] <gothic1> As it's the whole of ubuntu
[16:46] <k1l> gothic1: wait
[16:46] <k1l> gothic1: last time you said its the specific font that got the wrong unicodes in it. why not file it against that?
[16:46] <cynixx3> nedal_, its the number of bytes the folder information uses.
[16:47] <k1l> gothic1: you need to get your facts as right as possible. if you just keep on rambling "all ubuntu is crap because my special font is not included" the motivation of others to help you is lowest possible. adress the bug to the right place so the riight maintainer/dev will look at it
[16:48] <k1l> gothic1: so get to know which font you actually use and in which package that is included on ubuntu. that is the packge to file the bug to
[16:48] <nedal_> cynixx3 so there is no mathematics relation ?
[16:49] <k1l> nedal_: its no relation.
[16:49] <gothic1> k1l: Let me try to explain it clearly. The font is attached to the right unicode. But it's like this, this is the standard K in the font which Linux has choosen: http://static.memrise.com/uploads/things/images/20285994_131016_1606_45.png, and this the standard R: http://static.memrise.com/uploads/things/images/20286002_131016_1609_28.png
[16:49] <k1l> nedal_: its just "this is a folder so we give it the number 4096"
[16:49] <cynixx3> nedal_, in what way? All folders take 4096 bytes (or bites not sure)
[16:49] <k1l> nedal_: if you want to know the size use "du"
[16:49] <gothic1> k1l: This makes it impossible for me to distinguish the two letters well. Also, the creator, Mike Everson, for some reason choose to make the D into a symbol which the original Gothic didn' t even have: http://static.memrise.com/uploads/things/images/20285987_131016_1606_13.png
[16:49] <EriC^^> nedal_ is talking about how he can calculate the total in ls -l
[16:49] <naurio> Hi, i
[16:50] <gothic1> k1l: And the B had a much smaller extension at the right side: http://static.memrise.com/uploads/things/images/20285985_131016_1606_30.png
[16:50] <cynixx3> nedal_, du -sh .
[16:50] <k1l> gothic1: honestly i dont care about the details of fonts.
[16:50] <gothic1> k1l: In other words, this font is horrible. So I want a global change of it. Because other fonts actually made the things which I mentioned in the right way.
[16:50] <naurio> Hi, i'm trying to setup an minimal system based on xfce ontop of ubuntu minimal
[16:50] <gothic1> k1l: I DO care, because these details make a text unreadable.
[16:50] <gothic1> k1l: If I try to read an article at the Gothic wikipedia, I can't, because the font is horribly done.
[16:50] <k1l> gothic1: but no dev or maintainer will change anything if you file the bug against the wrong packages.
[16:50] <naurio> but I stumble upon an problem with network-manager-gnome
[16:50] <nedal_> cynixx3 I get 3,2G what does it mean ?
[16:50] <k1l> gothic1: stop
[16:51] <cynixx3> that folder has 3.2 gigs of data in it.
[16:51] <naurio> the applet shows fine, but if i click on any wifi connection the password dialog does not pop up. Any ideas what
[16:51] <gothic1> k1l: So I need to file against a font package
[16:51] <cfhowlett> gothic1, so install the font you want and set your system defaults.  fixed.
[16:51] <naurio> what's missing (sorry stupid keyboard)
[16:51] <gothic1> cfhowlett: If there was a simple way to do that, I would do it. But Ubuntu and it's manuels are very unclear about that.
[16:52] <cynixx3> nedal_, the du command reports the disk usage for the requested directory. -sh is asking for a summery and human readable format
[16:52] <nedal_> Eric^^ yes, still trying to
[16:52] <k1l> gothic1: your issue right now is to search what font you actually use (keep in mind browsers might use different ones) and then file a bug against the package that contains that font.
[16:52] <gothic1> cfhowlett: And the method with k1l explained to me previous time only changed the bold text in the font which I choose, for one session. Now it's al undone.
[16:52] <gothic1> k1l: Yes, I tried to find the font, but it's unfindable.
[16:53] <gothic1> Again, I 'm a total noob, and I need step-by-step explanations with regards to Ubuntu, to know what to do.
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> gothic1  some 20 people in ##fonts, better ask there
[16:53] <albert> shuang
[16:53] <cynixx3> nedal_, the du command should show you the results of total ls -l field multiplied times your blocksize.
[16:53] <cynixx3> but du is more accurate than ls block size.
[16:54] <cynixx3> is that the answer your looking for nedal_?
[16:55] <nedal_> cynixx3 nit exactly, Eric^^ understood what I m looking for. It s how can I calculate the total in ls -l
[16:56] <ankit> hi
[16:56] <k1l> nedal_: you cant.
[16:57] <cynixx3> nedal_, why do you want to calculate it? I assumed to determine the disk usage.
[16:58] <nedal_> cynixx3, I thought that there is a relation between total and the blocksize
[16:58] <cynixx3> more the number of blocks rather than the size of them.
[16:59] <kate_r_> hi
[17:00] <NanoSector> Hey ho. My Ethernet fails to connect, it'll just stick at connecting, and eventually disconnect
[17:00] <cynixx3> I believe ( I may be wrong) the total in ls -l is the number of blocks that folder uses. blockdev --getbsz 'yourhd' reports blocksize.
[17:00] <NanoSector> My Ethernet adapter is online and detected
[17:00] <cynixx3> multiply one times the other should give you a ROUGH estimate of total volume used. But du is much more accurate.
[17:01] <kate_r_> about how many ports could a ubuntu box leave open at any one time?
[17:01] <kate_r_> especially for bittorrent
[17:01] <cynixx3> kate_r_, 65,000
[17:01] <kate_r_> cynixx3: but is that the theoretical or practical maximum?
[17:02] <cynixx3> nearly practical. Thats about how many ports are in the IP protocol.
[17:03] <cynixx3> ~1000 are reserved for various reasons. Leaving that many ports open is a huge security risk though.
[17:03] <nedal_> cynixx3, you might be right because the total number is less in each sub-directory .. It make sens
[17:03] <cynixx3> your basically running without a firewall at that point. What are you really trying to do with bittorrent?
[17:04] <kate_r_> cynixx3: i just wonder how many torrents could a ubuntu box serve
[17:04] <kate_r_> cynixx3: the ports will only be used for outgoing connections though
[17:04] <Dondopa> I have a problem. My Acer P3 Wireless cover keyboard is detected by Ubuntu 14.04 Bluetooth GUI but it says it failed when I tried to pair it.
[17:05] <cynixx3> How many torrents it can serve is more of a question of processor ability and ram size. ports are often not a problem.
[17:05] <nedal_> cynixx3_ always about the command ls -l , the second column is about the number of hard links right?
[17:05] <Dondopa> Is there anyway that I can use my bluetooth keyboard if the bluetooth gui is not working?
[17:06] <Dondopa> What do I need to install to get this thing working?
[17:06] <kate_r_> cynixx3: ah okay
[17:07] <cynixx3> nedal_, could I send you what I am using to answer your questions? http://go2linux.garron.me/command-ls-file-permissions
[17:08] <cynixx3> nedal_, I mainly just pay attention to the permissions and the owner of the file
[17:10] <NanoSector> So I guess noone can help with the ethernet problem?
[17:10] <TLF> Hello. I'm unable to use my own webcam in webrtc neither in chromium nor firefox, can anyone help me?
[17:11] <zyxon> howdy folks, I just installed Utopic on my system and I need help with getting the right resolution (1080p) with my freshly installed fglrx. I did notice that I'm lacking an /etc/X11/xorg.conf. could you guys pooint me to the right direction?
[17:11] <streulma> hello, is it an option to set the fan option in BIOS by "Fan Always On" on Off ? Does it work with Ubuntu?
[17:11] <cfhowlett> !fans | streulma
[17:11] <nedal_> cynixx3, the link is so useful thanks
[17:11] <Wachu> streulma, it should work
[17:11] <NanoSector> streulma, BIOS settings override ubuntu settings
[17:11] <solsTiCe> zyxon: mosst of the time now, you don't need a xorg.conf anymore
[17:12] <cfhowlett> !fan | streulma
[17:12] <zyxon> solsTiCe, okay then :) how do I get the right resolution?
[17:12] <streulma> I'm getting a white page :)
[17:12] <solsTiCe> on the command line there is xrandr, or in system settings > display and choose the right resolution
[17:13] <solsTiCe> zyxon: ^
[17:13] <Jarvix> how do you display user pic in panel
[17:13] <belgianguy> what is the dev channel for Ubuntu?
[17:13] <tyrog> Hi is it safe to install ubuntu in a btrfs partition or should stick with Ext4 for now? Thanks
[17:13] <zyxon> solsTiCe, my resolution doesn't show up in system settings or xrandr
[17:14] <cynixx3> Too many questions and not enough answerers. Sorry guys
[17:14] <Dondopa> Is there a way to connect my bluetooth cover keyboard on my Acer P3-171?
[17:15] <Dondopa> I am using the GUi but it failed to pair it
[17:15] <tyrog> Hi is it safe to install ubuntu in a btrfs partition or should stick with Ext4 for now? Thanks
[17:16] <cynixx3> Dondopa, you should be able to but you would most likely need to install some more bluetooth package. Unfortunately I dont know which one's. take a look at the software manager
[17:16] <OerHeks> belgianguy, ubuntu-devel but i think you better contact a team tru launchpad, you won't find support for apps there
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> tyrog  btrfs is safe, but i guess it's not supported here, because it's in experimental stage
[17:16] <tyrog> MonkeyDust: If it's experimental then it's not a good idea maybe, what do u think?
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:16] <chachin> wtf 1700 users
[17:16] <cynixx3> 1690 afk
[17:17] <chachin> 1702 on my irc
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> numbers numbers!
[17:17] <anonymus> hurr durr, someone using flinch? :D
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> !btrfs | tyrog
[17:18] <solsTiCe> it is pased the stage od experimental. It's the default fs in opensuse now
[17:18] <tyrog> MonkeyDust: thank you. For now I will stick with ext4, when I reinstall for the next LTS then I will probably use btrfs. Thanks
[17:18] <TLF> no idea of WebRTC here? :(
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> TLF  #ubuntu-studio is multimedia dedicated, maybe you find help there
[17:22] <TLF> MonkeyDust: thanks, but it seems it's an invite-only channel, how can I join?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> TLF  by registering
[17:23] <TLF> MonkeyDust: where? I'm already a freenode registered user
[17:23] <faust> TLF: #ubuntustudio
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> TLF  odd. ask in #freenode, maybe
[17:23] <TLF> MonkeyDust, faust: thanks
[17:23] <dorkusmaximus> whats the command in ubuntu to see if my memory is running in dual channel mode?
[17:24] <cynixx3> solsTiCe, it looks to me like the btrfs may be default but only on the newest kernel. Ubuntu's kernel is further behind and not as ready for btrfs
[17:24] <faust> TLF: if you have set the user mode to disable forward you will see a "+i" instead of a forward
[17:24] <TLF> faust: thanks
[17:24] <Kutakizukari> With this command "sudo chown -R ghost:ghost /var/www/ghost/" what does the "ghost:ghost" part do?
[17:24] <faust> TLF: 'welcome
[17:25] <cynixx3> Kutakizukari, sets the user and usergroup
[17:26] <cynixx3> for a www directory you may want to think about trying user ghost group nobody or apache.
[17:26] <OerHeks> dorkusmaximus, maybe ' sudo dmidecode | grep "ECC"   ' can tell
[17:26] <belgianguy> OerHeks MonkeyDust: it's a generic question, about how DE's function, what languages and frameworks are used etc
[17:27] <belgianguy> eg what makes a Unity, GNOME or Cinnamon
[17:27] <user1> hi guys, what is the fontname of that appears in boot-up mode in Ubuntu?
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  that question would be for #ubuntu-offtopic, i guess
[17:29] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: that would be okay
[17:31] <riki> ciao
[17:31] <riki> !list
[17:32] <nedal_> Hi again .. what does the command "echo $SHELL" give ?
[17:32] <belgianguy> it prints the SHELL environment variable
[17:32] <daftykins> the clue is in the command
[17:33] <Dondopa> This is so stressful
[17:35] <belgianguy> Dondopa: what is?
[17:36] <solsTiCe> cynixx3: ubuntu 14.10 is currently at 3.16 it is not far behind 3.17.4 which is the current stable kernel version
[17:36] <cynixx3> Good to know
[17:36] <dorkusmaximus> cpsp
[17:38] <nedal_> cynixx3  do you know what does the command "echo $SHELL" give ?
[17:39] <EriC^^> nedal_: the path to your shell
[17:39] <cynixx3> nedal_, belgianguy already answered that. its the kind of shell you are using. Most common is bash, there is also sh, ksh, tsh, and others.
[17:40] <cynixx3> and EriC^^ is right more than which one its the path to which one.
[17:41] <ai6pg> to find path, use 'which shellname e.g. which tcsh >   /usr/bin/tcsh
[17:42] <nedal_> ah okey. Thanks guys
[17:42] <Dondopa> Setting up bluetooth keyboard and mouse
[17:42] <Seven_Six_Two> zsh is my fav
[17:44] <cynixx3> Dondopa, what brand of laptop?
[17:44] <Dondopa> Acer P3
[17:44] <Dondopa> 171
[17:44] <Dondopa> Ultrabook
[17:44] <cynixx3> and your using ubuntu 14?
[17:44] <Dondopa> Yes
[17:44] <cynixx3> okay so you should already have the drivers.
[17:45] <guest217> hi
[17:45] <cynixx3> what problem are you having / where are you in the setup process?
[17:45] <Dondopa> The bluetooth mouse connected and paired successfully but sometimes it disconnects
[17:45] <Dondopa> And  the cover keyboard won't connect at all
[17:46] <Dondopa> it says it failed
[17:46] <cynixx3> is the keyboard detectable? or no search results except the mouse?
[17:47] <guest217> cli based 14.04.1 headless server: how to start x with a vnc server if needed?
[17:47] <daftykins> X doesn't belong on servers
[17:48] <dorkusmaximus> anyone know how to check if memory is running in dual channel mode without rebooting? dmidecode and i-nex don't seem to tell.
[17:49] <guest217> daftykins, i just need a way how to vnc to the server if needed and with the server automatically start a xsession. for normal no xsession is running
[17:49] <daftykins> why?
[17:52] <cynixx3> guest217, if you have a server you just ssh into it to run it. No desktop is necessary and having one is a security risk.
[17:54] <cynixx3> But if you must you install a utinity or kde desktop and then install a vnc server and have it open a loopback port to access your desktop.
[17:54] <cynixx3> its an involved process and best if you look for online documentation with the software you want to use.
[17:55] <guest217> cynixx3, need graphical to configure mythbackend. security: to prevent issues the thing only should run x if its needed - thought i wrote about that clearly...
[17:57] <cynixx3> a vnc program can not start a desktop process. the desktop process has to be listening and you have to have an open port for it to listen on. There is your security problem.
[17:58] <guest217> i would do startx from cli and on top x11vnc but startx on user does not work at all "no protocol specified" and tightvnc stucks at a grey window with useless curser
[17:59] <k1l> you dont use startx on ubuntu
[18:00] <Bicyclidine> Hello. How can I upgrade from 12.04 LTS to, say, one of the 14s not LTS? do-release-upgrade says there are no new releases.
[18:00] <k1l> guest217: what is the reason? you wan to run a gui program there? as service or just once?
[18:00] <cynixx3> guest217, try this page for more answers, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[18:01] <k1l> Bicyclidine: you can only upgrade 12.04 to 14.04
[18:01] <Bicyclidine> Okay. How do I do so?
[18:01] <k1l> Bicyclidine: make sure the release prompt says lts
[18:01] <Bicyclidine> "Description:Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS" from lsb_release -a.
[18:02] <cynixx3> Bicyclidine, try do-release-upgrade -d
[18:02] <k1l> cynixx3: Bicyclidine no!!
[18:02] <OerHeks> -d = development, 15.04
[18:02] <Bicyclidine> I dunno, I probably wouldn't mind a development release.
[18:02] <cynixx3> whops, I didnt know 15 was out.
[18:03] <cynixx3> Sorry Bicyclidine
[18:03] <k1l> cynixx3: dont advise that dirty hacks that will result in unwanted situation
[18:03] <NikTh> Bicyclidine: DON'T do "do-release-upgrade -d" except if you want to upgrade to the devel release.
[18:03] <OerHeks> Bicyclidine, then go for it, support in #ubuntu+1
[18:03] <k1l> Bicyclidine: "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"  says what?
[18:03] <Bicyclidine> Prompt=never
[18:03] <Bicyclidine> Weird.
[18:04] <NikTh> If you open the update manager you will see there in which version (LTS or Not) you can update.
[18:04] <Bicyclidine> Should I change that to normal or something?
[18:04] <k1l> Bicyclidine: is it a desktop?
[18:04] <Bicyclidine> Laptop, not a server yeah.
[18:04] <NikTh> Bicyclidine: Change this to normal will let you upgrade to a non-LTS release.
[18:04] <k1l> Bicyclidine: go to systemsettings, updates & software and there change the setting to LTS
[18:04] <Bicyclidine> Are there any special problems upgrading from LTS to non-LTS?
[18:04] <k1l> guys stop please!!!!
[18:04] <k1l> you are all giving him false advise
[18:05] <Bicyclidine> As far as I understand long-term support I don't think I really need it.
[18:05] <k1l> Bicyclidine: you only can upgrade to 14.04 from a 12.04
[18:05] <k1l> so you _need_ the lts upgrade now
[18:05] <Bicyclidine> I'm upgrading because my emacs is a full version behind and I don't want to compile it myself.
[18:05] <NikTh> But I would advice to stick with the LTS release. So, changing this to "LTS only" and you will be able upgrade to the next LTS release
[18:05] <k1l> you can not upgrade to any other version right now
[18:05] <Bicyclidine> OK lts, why not.
[18:06] <NikTh> k1l:  NO !! admit it. You CAN upgrade to a non-LTS release from an LTS release, it just NOT the default.
[18:06] <k1l> Bicyclidine: when you are upgraded to 14.04 then you can choose to upgrade to 14.10 if you want. but you need to upgrade to 14.04 first
[18:06] <Bicyclidine> Kind of wish do-release-upgrade had told me it didn't even check.
[18:06] <Bicyclidine> k1l: ok, sounds good.
[18:06] <SonikkuAmerica> NikTh: It's not a supported method.
[18:06] <k1l> NikTh: that doesnt make sense in his situation. all relases fom 12.04 to 14.04 dont have support now. so that is just a false advice for him
[18:06] <guest721> hey guys should I make  my swap partition part of a new volume gro I p?
[18:07] <k1l> NikTh: so stop that!
[18:07] <ikonia> guest721: your choice
[18:08] <NikTh> k1l:  What are you saying ? There is a non-LTS release currently supported. 14.10 , you know ? If the update manager prompt him for a non supported release, then it's a bug for sure.
[18:08] <Bicyclidine> The update manager told me there was no release at all, which kind of sucks.
[18:08] <nedal_> Again, I can t see the difference between who am i and whoami
[18:09] <k1l> NikTh: so stop that!
[18:09] <arun_> have u guys ever configured anope and unrealirc ?
[18:09] <k1l> Bicyclidine: someone changed the setting for you. i think we will never know :)
[18:10] <Bicyclidine> Weird. I'm pretty sure I never touched it.
[18:10] <Bicyclidine> Still, even with the setting it seems like it should mention it doesn't actually check, and how to make it check. Oh well.
[18:10] <Bicyclidine> Thanks.
[18:10] <cynixx3> if you changed the file now do sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:11] <Bicyclidine> Yes, it's downloading now.
[18:11] <vlastik> Beginner's question - how to change directory to the connected iPhone, that is already seen in the graphical interface?
[18:11] <Bicyclidine> maybe it's under /mnt?
[18:11] <rio_zenta> Hello
[18:12] <user1> what is the name of this font on my ubuntu server tty? http://i.imgur.com/Nutuw9j.png
[18:12] <rio_zenta> Can something like Apache affect my Network Manager modification?
[18:12] <ikonia> rio_zenta: not directly no
[18:12] <Bicyclidine> geez, i hope not.
[18:13] <solsTiCe> user1: terminal ?
[18:13] <rio_zenta> ikonia, I have been trying to modify my Network Manager from DCHP to a static IP, but even after following the instructions Ubuntu provides and also modifying resolv.conf (properly) that my nameserver is now pointing to the modem IP address, it is still failing. This is 12.04
[18:14] <ikonia> rio_zenta: you shouldn't need to touch modify.conf
[18:14] <ikonia> oops
[18:14] <ikonia> there should be no need to touch that
[18:14] <ikonia> resolv.conf
[18:14] <gerard> I have a Lenovo R52 with what I assume is a Intel 2915ABG Wireless Card, does anyone know where to acquire a driver?
[18:14] <user1> solsTiCe: you mean that the font name is "terminal"
[18:14] <user1> ?
[18:14] <ikonia> rio_zenta: I suggest you have not changed it correctly, or you would not have touched resolv.conf
[18:14] <rio_zenta> ikonia, So even if it is still 127.0.0.1, that won't affect Network Manager?
[18:15] <solsTiCe> yes may be. I don't remember
[18:15] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: If it was for me, the /mnt folder is empty.
[18:15] <ikonia> rio_zenta: what are you talking about "affect network manager"
[18:15] <ikonia> rio_zenta: network manager sets it for you
[18:15] <ikonia> rio_zenta: you have it back to front
[18:15] <ikonia> rio_zenta: you change settins in network manager, not the files directly
[18:15] <rio_zenta> ikonia, Some of the solutions I came across suggested that the nameserver be changed from 127.0.0.1 to the IP address of the router.
[18:15] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: yeah, that was just me guessing, sorry. /media maybe?
[18:16] <solsTiCe> user1: it's called terminus and it's theone you showed us
[18:16] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Following that line of inquiry now and will report. Thanks so far.
[18:16] <rio_zenta> ikonia, that is what I did, but it isn't working at all. Here is the link to what I did: http://www.sudo-juice.com/how-to-a-set-static-ip-in-ubuntu/
[18:16] <ikonia> rio_zenta: I don't know why you are looking at "solutions"
[18:16] <iLabs> Hello everybody!
[18:16] <ikonia> rio_zenta: open network manager, change the setting from dynamic to static, fill in the IP details you want, done
[18:16] <ikonia> rio_zenta: there is no need to change anything outside of network manager
[18:16] <iLabs> How can I install KDE on Ubuntu 14.04 Unity?
[18:16] <Bicyclidine> "By default, storage devices that are plugged into the system mount automatically in the /media/<username> directory," okay, there we go.
[18:17] <rio_zenta> ikonia, that is exactly what I did, but it isn't working. Whether I modify resolv.conf or not, it doesn't work.
[18:17] <ikonia> "it isn't working" what does that mean ?
[18:17] <user1> solsTiCe: sorry, but it is not the terminus font
[18:17] <rio_zenta> ikonia, after changing from DCHP to static IP, I have no access to the internet.
[18:17] <ikonia> rio_zenta: why ? is your route wrong, is name resolution not working, are you even on a network ?
[18:18] <iLabs> How can I install KDE on Ubuntu 14.04 Unity?
[18:18] <nmatrix9> is possible to have raid and lvm together?
[18:18] <ikonia> iLabs: install the kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[18:18] <ikonia> nmatrix9: yes
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> !info kubuntu-desktop | iLabs
[18:19] <rio_zenta> ikonia, this is what I did. I went into my router settings and specified the DCHP range from .1 to .100, then I specified my IP address to be 150. My Netmask is: 255.255.255.0 and my gateway: XXX.XXX.0.1 & my DNS server is the same as gateway: XXX.XXX.0.1
[18:19] <ikonia> rio_zenta: I'm not asking you what you did
[18:19] <ikonia> rio_zenta: I'm asking you what the problem is
[18:19] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: That folder is empty.
[18:19] <iLabs> ikonia how? Terminal code?
[18:20] <Bicyclidine> hm. that's weird.
[18:20] <ikonia> iLabs: open the package manager, search for kubuntu-desktop, click install
[18:20] <NikTh> iLabs: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" is an option.
[18:20] <rio_zenta> ikonia, I'm not sure any more. Somebody else tried helping me yesterday and it seemed that everything was 'fine' after I followed this persons instructions and shared my output.
[18:20] <iLabs> ikonia Thank you!
[18:20] <bish0p_> Hi, I was wondering how easy is it to go back a version in Ubuntu? Can I just install over it from a boot drive?
[18:20] <joshumax> Hey, anyone know if debootstrap runs okay in ash, I've run into a problem
[18:20] <ikonia> rio_zenta: why do you want a static IP ?
[18:20] <SchrodingersScat> rio_zenta: so you specified an IP outside of the range?
[18:21] <ikonia> SchrodingersScat: outside of the dhcp scope it would seem,
[18:21] <rio_zenta> ikonia, I want to setup #seafile on my local network
[18:21] <SchrodingersScat> ikonia: is it just me, or would no connectivity be expected?
[18:21] <ikonia> SchrodingersScat: I suspect the problem is dns masq and the default router
[18:21] <ikonia> rio_zenta: why do you need a static ip for that
[18:21] <rio_zenta> SchrodingersScat, I am within range, I just removed the DCHP that existed from 1 to 254 to 1-100, so that 101-254 can be static now
[18:21] <farbod> hi
[18:21] <ikonia> SchrodingersScat: no, inside the network range, outside the dhcp scope is fine
[18:21] <nmatrix9> ikonia so set up raid first use the active partitions and use those to create volgroup and from there play around to create logical volumes under the group.
[18:22] <NikTh> I really didn't understand neither : 1)SonikkuAmerica>  "NikTh: It's not a supported method" , 2) k1l> " NikTh: so stop that!"
[18:22] <farbod> i want to buy a macbook and i want your idia about it
[18:22] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: that link you have and the info I see you provide sounds like it should work
[18:22] <ikonia> nmatrix9: sounds good
[18:22] <ikonia> farbod: try ##apple
[18:22] <rio_zenta> ikonia, seafile requires an IP address that I can use to access it by other PCs I use on the same network, and because I am using DCHP, the IP address keeps changing
[18:22] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: so can you ping 8.8.8.8 from that box?
[18:22] <ikonia> rio_zenta: so map it to a mac address in the router
[18:22] <Bicyclidine> I just plugged in my own phone and "mount" doesn't seem to know it exists.
[18:22] <ikonia> rio_zenta: that would be the easy solution, assign a static mapping on the router
[18:23] <NikTh> Can someone explain me in short, 1) Why is not a supported method, 2) Why I should stop giving advices/choices to users ?
[18:23] <farbod> thank you
[18:23] <rio_zenta> ikonia, You mean leave my router in the 1-254 range and assign a static IP from router settings?
[18:23] <k1l> NikTh: you can upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 14.10 non-lts. that is what i told the user, too
[18:23] <ikonia> rio_zenta: most routers will allow you to map a dhcp to a mac address,
[18:23] <NikTh> k1l: Can't you upgrade from 12.04.5 to 14.10 ?
[18:23] <ikonia> rio_zenta: if you're making a mess of your network stack, the easy solution is to not touch it and assign a static dhcp address within the router
[18:24] <k1l> NikTh: but from 12.04 you cant upgrade to any other release as  to 14.04. because no other release form 12.04 to 14.04 got no support
[18:24] <k1l> NikTh: no.
[18:24] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: yeah i can't tell where it's mounted. i don't know what the hell, sorry.
[18:24] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, Nope, the output is: icmp_seq=1( to n) Destination Host Unreachable
[18:24] <k1l> NikTh: see the official upgrade documentations if you still dont trust me.
[18:24] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: It might not be as easy as I had expected then. No worries, I am learning. Thanks for your help.
[18:24] <Bicyclidine> it should be easy. i don't know what gives.
[18:25] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: so ifconfig  shows and  route -n
[18:25] <NikTh> k1l : and why is that ? Update Manager should search and find the currently supported release (which is 14.10 if we speak for a non LTS) .. is this because they are too far from each other ?
[18:25] <rio_zenta> ikonia, That makes sense, but I've read on what I think was the router forum that said doing it via the router isn't such a good idea. Can this not be true?
[18:25] <ikonia> rio_zenta: why is it not a good idea ?
[18:25] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: Oh, found it.
[18:26] <gerard> I have a Lenovo R52 with what I assume is a Intel 2915ABG Wireless Card, does anyone know where to acquire a driver?
[18:26] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, yes, both ifconfig and route -n show. This is the process I went through yesterday.
[18:26] <k1l> NikTh: on ubuntu you can only go one step with an upgrade. either its 12.04 to 12.10 or the lts upgrade to 14.04. since 12.10 is dead already there is no other chance
[18:26] <NikTh> k1l: is not a matter of trust. Just to clarify things, in short of course as here we cannot writing tutorials :P
[18:26] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: You're at a terminal, right? Run just "mount".
[18:26] <ikonia> gerard: shouldn't need one if it's intel
[18:26] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: For me it's mounted at ~/.gvfs, though I couldn't tell you why.
[18:26] <k1l> NikTh: dont mix ubuntu with the way debian handles their upgrades
[18:27] <NikTh> k1l: This explanation is better than " So stop that ! " ;-)
[18:27] <rio_zenta> ikonia, Ok I misread what was being said. the OP wanted some complex solution of specifying static IP from PC-side and somehow making the router know what is going on. Here is the link: http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=85066
[18:28] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: shows they match as stated above 192.168.0.150 with gateway 192.168.0.1  and dns 192.168.0.1 ?
[18:28] <ikonia> rio_zenta: up to you what you do
[18:28] <ikonia> rio_zenta: setting a static IP is basic, and if you are struggling with it I suspect a.) running a cloud service is not something you should be doing b.) consider setting it at the router level
[18:29] <gerard> ikonia: Is the Intel wireless driver part of the kernal?
[18:29] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: At the machine, typed it in, still cannot see anything. No worries, I'll start learning with easier processes.
[18:29] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, ifconfig shows me the right inet address, but route -n gives me an output that does has the right gateway, but no evidence of an inet address in it.
[18:29] <ikonia> gerard: yes
[18:30] <joshumax> Anyone?
[18:30] <rio_zenta> ikonia, It's not that I am struggling to set it up. I followed the instructions clearly, but something in my system is not working. However, you make a valid point and I will use the router-level option
[18:31] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: so can you even ping 192.168.0.1 ?
[18:31] <ikonia> rio_zenta: if your system is not working - you are struggling to set it up
[18:31] <rio_zenta> I just wanted to "diagnose" the problem, as it may be an issue at system-level for 12.04 that others are facing.
[18:31] <Guest95061> joshumax ?
[18:31] <ikonia> rio_zenta: the fact that you need a random guide to set a static IP shows you are struggling to set it up
[18:31] <ikonia> rio_zenta: it is not a system issue with 12.04
[18:31] <ikonia> I assure you that
[18:31] <ikonia> this is specific to the changes you have made
[18:31] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: what do you mean "still cannot see anything"? mount should give you a list of things mounted to the filesystem, should include things like a phone.
[18:31] <joshumax> Guest95061: I was curious if debootstrap works correctly with ash
[18:31] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, Nope, pinging 192.168.0.1 (the DNS) gives the same Destination Host Unreachable
[18:32] <ikonia> rio_zenta: it sounds like you are not on the network
[18:32] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: I cannot see any change in folders or files, after issuing the command.
[18:32] <ikonia> rio_zenta: some home routers will not allow connections to machines it does not give an IP address to
[18:33] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: Mount by itself won't change anything. It's just giving you a list of where to look. You are trying to find where your iPhone is on your filesystem, yes?
[18:33] <joshumax> rio_zenta: I'm not sure what's going on, but it sounds more like a ##networking question to me
[18:33] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Correct, buy I am very new to this OS.
[18:33] <ikonia> it's not e ##networking question
[18:33] <ikonia> the ubuntu network stack has been missconfigured
[18:33] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: ok, so do you have a terminal open? black screen with lots of text on it?
[18:34] <joshumax> ikonia: What happened?
[18:34] <Guest95061> joshumax there is no reason i can think of that debootstrap wouldn't work with ash/zsh/csh/...
[18:34] <ikonia> joshumax: he missconfigured his network settings
[18:34] <sacarlson> rio_zenta:  and I have to assume that with the same hardware hooke up when dhcp was setup it did talk to the internet then?
[18:34] <ikonia> or the router reguses to auth traffic from non-dhcp allocated traffic
[18:34] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, yes it did.
[18:34] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Yes, learning bash and commands in it, and wanted to see whether I could copy all files from it, then to create a script for it.
[18:34] <joshumax> Guest95061: something's giving me an arithmetic syntax error
[18:34] <joshumax> Guest95061: debootstrap.log is unhelpful, as is sh -x
[18:35] <joshumax> ikonia: ouch
[18:35] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: then I have to assume the the router is filtering any address that it doesn't provide an address for.  I think it must be a router thing
[18:35] <Guest95061> joshumax sh pointed at bash or dash ?
[18:35] <joshumax> Guest95061: sh is pointed at busybox ash
[18:35] <joshumax> Guest95061: I'm working with an embedded x86 system
[18:35] <Guest95061> busybox  ouch
[18:36] <sacarlson> rio_zenta:  what IP address did it give you when you ran dhcp?
[18:36] <Guest95061> all bets are off.     totally depends on the busybox compile
[18:36] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, That is surprising. I would think Netgear routers would provide such a service. But you and ikonia may actually be right about the home router preventing me from assigning a static IP
[18:36] <Guest95061> @ jushumax  ^
[18:37] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: I just thought when it is in GUI, I should be able to find it in folder structure too.
[18:37] <joshumax> Guest95061: Any way to debug what's going wrong with debootstrap?
[18:37] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, DCHP provides an assigned address which is normally something between 1 to 20
[18:37] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: Yeah, it's in there somewhere.
[18:37] <rio_zenta> eg. .0.1 to .0.20
[18:37] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: This is what mount should show you, or something like it of course, since you're not aeshtaer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9200345/
[18:38] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: after it provides it try make it static and see if that works.  I'm out of ideas
[18:38] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Pretty similar output.
[18:38] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, I will do what you and ikonia suggested and assign it via the router.
[18:38] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: set to dhcp mode let it get an address then switch it
[18:38] <joshumax> Guest95061: Right now my debootstrap command is "debootstrap --extractor=ar --foreign --no-check-gpg --arch=i386 sid /mnt/fs
[18:38] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: I know it's kind of incomprehensible, but that's a list of all the "devices" and where they are in your filesystem, to vastly oversimplify...
[18:39] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: One of those is your phone. I'm guessing the last one.
[18:39] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Do I have to mount it manually then?
[18:39] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: no, it's mounted already if you can view it in the GUI, this is a list of what's mounted.
[18:40] <d0rkusmaximus> how do i turn on the screensaver in ubuntu 14.04
[18:40] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: See how it says "gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/aeshtaer/.gvfs"? that means that my phone is at that directory, /home/aeshtaer/.gvfs.
[18:40] <Guest95061> jushumax --debug    but that might be to deep in the weeds.     sorry that i'm not to hot on that app/command     maybe someone else here or in   #bash   or   #debian     seeing that it's not really ubuntu specific.
[18:41] <joshumax> Ah, forgot about #debian, good idea
[18:41] <joshumax> I was originally trying to bootstrap lucid, so
[18:41] <joshumax> Yesh
[18:41] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: I don't see such folder in my username folder.
[18:42] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: can you paste the output of mount like I did?
[18:43] <CodeGosu> i have / parition and some free space after it, is there a way i can resize it while running it?
[18:43] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Ah, it is in completely different folder -> /run/user/1000/gvfs/
[18:43] <Bicyclidine> there you go then
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> CodeGosu  not while it's running, like: you can't repair a car engine while it's running
[18:44] <bubbasaures> CodeGosu, Not if regular ext partitioning.
[18:44] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Thanks a million!
[18:45] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: no problem, sorry i drew that out
[18:46] <solsTiCe> some fs accept resizing while mounted
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> CodeGosu  backup first
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> CodeGosu  if you start changing partitions
[18:47] <CodeGosu> ext4
[18:48] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Just one more question - will that name of the device stay, or is it generated per session/event?
[18:48] <d0rkusmaximus> cant find the screensaver tab in ubuntu anymore...where is it at?
[18:49] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: my guess is that it will stay, since gvfs is a daemon thing that runs even with nothing plugged in. the number in the directory might change, though
[18:50] <solsTiCe> CodeGosu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24027/how-can-i-resize-an-ext-root-partition-at-runtime
[18:52] <Tommmmmy> does ubuntu use to freeze while playing games?
[18:53] <k1l> not at all, Tommmmmy
[18:53] <marco94> hi
[18:53] <Tommmmmy> :c
[18:54] <Tommmmmy> and it freezes every 10 minutes even if im not playing a game
[18:56] <nedal_> hi, when I  write on the terminal screen " cd \"  the prompt returns to the next line, what am I supposed to do? I mean, what can I do whith this command ?
[18:57] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: backslash is a way of telling your shell you want to write on the next line.
[18:57] <Tommmmmy> cd is to get into a directory
[18:57] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: do you mean "cd /"?
[18:57] <bish0p_> I'm switching to xmonad, and I need a new display manager? I'm not entirely sure what that means, my friend told me to use SLiM, but everything I'm finding says it's discontinued
[18:57] <bish0p_> Is there an alternative?
[18:57] <Tommmmmy> cd Desktop
[18:57] <Tommmmmy> cd / returns you to the / directory
[18:57] <Tommmmmy> cd /home/user/Desktop
[18:58] <martisj> monring
[18:58] <Tommmmmy> if you are on /home/user
[18:58] <nedal_> Bicyclidine no I meant cd \
[18:58] <Bicyclidine> You want to change directory to something named backslash?
[18:59] <martisj> I am trying to install php5.4 on ubuntu 14.04 but when I do sudo aptitude install php5=5.4.35-1~dotdeb.1 all the dependencies get installed as version 5.5.9 ?
[18:59] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: if so, "cd \\"
[18:59] <daftykins> nedal_: "\" is not a valid path.
[18:59] <martisj> Do I have to install the dependencies separately with the same version as 5.4.35-1~dotdeb.1 ? Or is there some automatic apt-get thing I can do ?
[18:59] <nedal_> No I just want to know am I allowed to do with that command
[18:59] <Bicyclidine> Though I have no idea why you'd name a directory that.
[18:59] <k1l>  \ is windows. in ubuntu we have / for paths
[19:00] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: It's line completion. Go to your home directory and put in "cd \". Then type "Desktop" and hit enter. You will end up in ~/Desktop.
[19:00] <Bicyclidine> That's it.
[19:00] <Tommmmmy> k1l the freezes are because of nvidia-prime and my touchpad driver
[19:00] <Tommmmmy> :S
[19:01] <soufiane> lol
[19:01] <Flannel> nedal_: The reason it goes to the next line is because "\" is an escape character, so in all liklihood, you're escaping the newline, and it's waiting for the "rest" of the command.
[19:01] <nedal_> Bicyclidine I know that / is how we make paths on Linux, but when I write the backslash it brings me to the next line, there is no error message
[19:02] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: It's not an error. It's like what me and Flannel said.
[19:03] <daftykins> nedal_: sometimes guides on websites wrap commands that go onto multiple lines by using a slash at the end of one
[19:03] <nedal_> so it s making nothing, I have to write the command that I want ?
[19:03] <daftykins> hard to tell if that's what you're up to
[19:03] <Flannel> nedal_: It's doing exactly what you tell it to.  What we need to know in order to further assist you is: what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:04] <coder_> shadowe989 I've reinstalled my system
[19:04] <coder_> shadowe989 The problem ofc still exists ;)
[19:04] <nedal_> Flannel_ it s like what I said, just curious to know if this command can do something or not
[19:05] <coder_> shadowe989 In short, it seems that sometimes it can't connect
[19:06] <coder_> shadowe989 The same problem on liveCD, installed system on usb, HDD
[19:06] <Flannel> nedal_: Yes, it can.  You just need to tell it what to do in a complete and proper fashion.
[19:07] <Akiva> Hey I am doing a new install of 14.10; wondering if it is worthwhile to mount my root  differently than my home, using different filesystems
[19:07] <Akiva> any tips?
[19:07] <nedal_> Flannel , but it does not. When I write ls for example it prints: bash: cd:  ls: No such file or directory
[19:07] <Tommmmmy> when i use nvidia and my touchpad it freezes, well i think it was a bad idea after all, but, can i solve this? it was already marked as a bug, so i just have to wait?
[19:08] <fdsadfa> Got a launchpad question
[19:08] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: that's because you're typing the equivalent of "cd ls".
[19:08] <fdsadfa> I commited a bugfix(I think to my local bzr instance), how do I get it up to launchpad?
[19:08] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: I don't know how to explain this more basically to you. It is prompting you for more of the same command, not a new command.
[19:08] <daftykins> Akiva: not really, ext4 for the lot
[19:09] <nedal_> Bicylidine :D I see now !
[19:09] <guest217> k1l, no x but gui would be another approach but running a gui (via ssh -X) on the server without running xserver is not possible....
[19:09] <nedal_> what you re saying is so true
[19:09] <Akiva> daftykins: anyway to get reiser4? I hear is really good at handling small files?
[19:10] <Guest95061> akiva  pros' and cons'   seperate file systems can protect your home/private data across a reload/reinstall of the os.   it can also protect your os from an hdd failure if you should loose your home dir.     it is more time consuming and more places to cause problems if anything should go arie.    so  your choice.
[19:11] <Akiva> Guest95061: all I want is performance. Anything else is tertiary
[19:12] <curt> Hey guys, fresh install of 14.04 because I was having trouble with nvidia drivers, now on my fresh install I still have nothing under additional drivers
[19:12] <curt> in the past with a fresh install I would see nouveau and nvidia 331 on a fresh install so im very confused
[19:13] <Tommmmmy> curt which problems?
[19:13] <Tommmmmy> freezes?
[19:13] <curt> issues getting nvidia prime to run as its an optimus laptop
[19:13] <guest217> is possible to run/forward a gui on a remote machine which has no xserver running?
[19:13] <coder_> shadowe989 Are you there?
[19:13] <coder_> @shadowe989
[19:14] <fr33domlover> hello
[19:14] <gamzera_> hey guys, any sport irc channel here?
[19:14] <Tommmmmy> well a guy toldme what i needed to uninstall first the nvidia drivers apt-get purge nvidia*
[19:14] <Tommmmmy> but keep the nvidia-common
[19:14] <fr33domlover> if font hinting on LXDE doesn't work, how do I find the cause?
[19:14] <fr33domlover> I tried editing in /etc/fonts and home folder too
  in the past when I did a fresh install though I had nouveau and nvidia current already loaded up and it worked fine
[19:15] <curt>  Tommmmmy so im very confused, its as if something is held over
[19:15] <Guest95061> guest217 it will have to have some kind of application layer to draw the graphics.    possible yes.   easy no.
[19:15] <guest217> Guest95061, so the way to temporarily start x and vnc into it would be better right?
[19:16] <Tommmmmy> if you have optimus
[19:16] <Guest95061> guest217 yes
[19:16] <martisj> what does the apt-get -t switch do ?
[19:16] <Tommmmmy> why dont try bumblebee
[19:16] <EiriksHDD> Hi guys, how to I get rid of the purple loading screen?
[19:16] <martisj> I want to install php 5.4 from dotbdebg ?
[19:16] <ikonia> martisj: I advise against that
[19:16] <martisj> wow terrible typo sorry. dotdeb
[19:16] <martisj> ikonia: why is that ?
[19:17] <ikonia> martisj: because it will cause conflicts with the ubuntu packages outside of php
[19:17] <guest217> Guest95061, do you have some experience in configuring that for temporarily use? x does not start successfull as user and xtightvnc stucks with grey window
[19:17] <curt> tommmmmy after I updated my bios a fresh install actually seemd to run everything ok, I jsut want to know why im not seeing anything at all in additional drivers, something is different in this install
[19:17] <EiriksHDD> I want to see Ubuntu boot faster, is there a way to get rid of the boot purple screen?
[19:17] <curt> tommmmy I dont want to try anyhting, I just want it to work out of the box which it did last time I installed before I started messing around
[19:18] <Guest95061> EiriksHDD nosplash kernel arg maybe ?
[19:18] <martisj> ikonia: how does that happen? So there is no practical way to run php 5.4 on an ubuntu 14.04 server?
[19:18] <EiriksHDD> I'm looking into it
[19:18] <ikonia> martisj: I advise against it, you are welcome to ignore that advise
[19:18] <ikonia> advice too
[19:19] <martisj> ikonia: I appreciate the advice, can you give a real world example where something will fail if I do install 5.4 ?
[19:20] <ikonia> for the reasons I gave earlier - that is a real world example
[19:20] <OerHeks> !info php5
[19:21] <TechIsCool> hey everyone anyone experienced with CalDav? I have a question about how permissions could be applied. I have a situation where I need to lock permission on a shared calendar with about 100+ users. They can create, edit and delete their own event but may only view others events. An Admin can Create, Edit and Delete any event.
[19:21]  * Guest95061 breaking dependancies is not the end of the world... it's just the end of package manager sanity!
[19:21] <ikonia> Guest95061: it's a lot more than that
[19:21] <guest217> Guest95061, do you have some experience in configuring that for temporarily use? x does not start successfull as user and xtightvnc stucks with grey window
[19:24] <cynixx3> Welcome back guest217, did you go through that ubuntu tutorial for remote desktop?
[19:25] <guest217> cynixx3, not yet startx still does not work
[19:25] <zyxon> hello folks. are the unity webapps working for anybody?
[19:25] <cynixx3> Another user mentioned that startx is not for ubuntu.
[19:26] <guest217> cynixx3, i found that statement too but still did not found "the right way"
[19:26] <bubbasaures> zyxon, We help based on details of the actual issue.
[19:27] <cynixx3> if you want to setup tightvnc on ubuntu please follow this tutorial. If you are having a specific problem please give us an error.
[19:27] <bubbasaures> guest217, You would not use startx in starting the ubuntu desktops.
[19:27] <codder_> shadowe989 are u there? ;)
[19:28] <cynixx3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[19:28] <codder_> @shadowe989 are u there? ;)
[19:28] <guest217> cynixx3, i CANNOT configure any vnc server WITHOUT a running X!!
[19:28] <bubbasaures> !tab | codder_ no @ here please
[19:29] <zyxon> bubbasaures, alright :) so I have tested 3 webapps: GMail, FacebookMessenger and Twitter. all three open the ubuntu-browser(?) with a blank page and a grey bar on top. any idea how to fix this?
[19:29] <bubbasaures> zyxon, This is what release and desktop?
[19:29] <codder_> bubbasaures why?
[19:30] <zyxon> bubbasaures, 14.10, unity
[19:30] <bubbasaures> codder_, A standard start for ubuntu is sudo service start lightdm     if lightdm, however on a vnc I'm not sure.
[19:31] <bubbasaures> zyxon, Have you modified the install like with themes?
[19:31] <zyxon> bubbasaures, a fresh install, I might add. only updates, a closed source display driver and a few other things added.
[19:31] <nszceta> I am trying to run an Arch Linux container in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and I am getting "Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1"
[19:31] <Guest95061> tripwire ???
[19:31] <zyxon> bubbasaures, yes, currently using ambiance and the faenza icons.
[19:33] <cynixx3> guest217, what part of running a desktop is problematic? Did you install ubuntu-desktop
[19:33] <zyxon> bubbasaures, but to make sure I just tried it with the default theme settings, no luck.
[19:33] <bubbasaures> zyxon, I would suspect the closed source driver, we support open source here, there are resets for unity and compiz on each release as well.  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[19:34] <guest217> cynixx3, no i just installed xfce4 metapackage and trying to run that session as user
[19:34] <bubbasaures> we see a reset needed on occasion I have had to di this myself in the past, just a start at easy steps really zyxon
[19:34] <bubbasaures> do*
[19:34] <cynixx3> guest217, if you want an fxce desktop try sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:35] <zyxon> bubbasaures, nope, issue still persists.
[19:35] <guest217> cynixx3, but that would load all stuff i dont need after that (all other gui) - do i need just lightdm ore something?
[19:36] <nedal_> y a t il une différence entre cat et more ?
[19:36] <nszceta> wat
[19:36] <cynixx3> guest217, I am not sure exactly what packages you need but the xubuntu-desktop package is the minimum desktop packages you can have for a working system.
[19:36] <daftykins> !fr | nedal_
[19:37] <nedal_> sorry!! Is there a difference between the command cat and more ?
[19:37] <guest217> cynixx3, yes but as i said this will install all office and multimedia stuff i wont need
[19:37] <guest217> so i thought it would be possible to configure it "by hand"
[19:37] <Guest95061> !xubuntu-desktop
[19:38] <bubbasaures> codder_, Sorry the command is sudo service lightdm start    stop is used to shut down X, just wanted to be correct.
[19:38] <cynixx3> nedal_, cat is for catenate, its takes two documents and outputs them one after the other. More displays one document and stops when it fills the screen allowing you to read it.
[19:38] <Guest95061> nedal_   cat and more   are not alike.
[19:38] <zyxon> bubbasaures, I have found this. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-webapps-livemail/+bug/1377942
[19:39] <Guest95061> more is a "so called" pager.     (less is a real pager)
[19:43] <nszceta> why can't I run systemd within a container on a ubuntu host
[19:43] <bubbasaures> zyxon, May be a bug in your case I can't say it is however.
[19:44] <zyxon> bubbasaures, the bug page on launchpad says it affects several people.
[19:45] <bubbasaures> zyxon, Sure, but was posted 10/8 and nothing has been really done, not sure their definition of several people is all, you have to be careful to attach meaning.
[19:47] <zyxon> bubbasaures, it might be a backend issue. I'll see if installing chromium fixes it. afaik it can work with both ff and chromium.
[19:48] <bubbasaures> zyxon, Have you tried the guest account to see if the same there?
[19:48] <zyxon> bubbasaures, I have not, I'll take a look at that as well.
[19:49] <bubbasaures> zyxon, Was this happening from the beginning on the live and fresh install?
[19:49] <zyxon> bubbasaures, I haven't checked on the live image.
[19:49] <bubbasaures> zyxon, Any work on the fresh install?
[19:50] <zyxon> nope :)
[19:50] <zyxon> bubbasaures ^
[19:50] <nszceta> Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1
[19:51] <bubbasaures> zyxon, I would check the guest, it sounds like you know how to switch from the closed to open source driver to check it and you have tried a reset, not sure beyond that myself is all.
[19:54] <bubbasaures> zyxon, I would name the graphic hardware in this quest being amd?
[19:54] <Dondopa> Ok
[19:54] <Dondopa> I somehow solved the cover keyboard problem in ubuntu
[19:54] <zyxon> bubbasaures, yessir. :D
[19:55] <Dondopa> The bluetooth manager is crappy it is giving me the wrong passkey. I had to use hcidump to find the real passkey. wth?
[19:55] <Dondopa> They keyboard now works but the mouse is treacherous as always.
[19:57] <sigrokBlack> Hi
[19:59] <smacktalk> What's the sudo apt-get command to bring my chrome up to the current version?
[19:59] <Bicyclidine> upgrade?
[20:00] <OerHeks> smacktalk, update should bring you to current 39.0.2171.65
[20:01] <smacktalk> sudo apt-get upgrade chrome...seems to be working.  I just wanna be able to watch netflix
[20:02] <bigeryap> OerHeks is a m0Therfu!cke?r jac"kas's. Watch out for that N1GGER.. smacktalk
[20:02] <Dondopa> ^ lol
[20:02] <Dondopa> wtf?
[20:02] <bubbasaures> !ops | bigeryap
[20:02] <flash84> hello!
[20:02] <Bicyclidine> sup.
[20:02] <bubbasaures> doh missed you're here Flannel
[20:02] <Flannel> bubbasaures: No worries.
[20:03] <smacktalk> wow...dude...not cool
[20:03] <Seveas> Flannel to the rescue!
[20:05] <cynixx3> I am glad you got your keyboard working Dondopa. I would have never guessed to use an hcidump
[20:05] <Dondopa> cynixx3 see this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2195828
[20:06] <Dondopa> The passkey for the keyboard as shown in the gui is not the real apsskey
[20:06] <Dondopa> that's why it keeps failing
[20:06] <Dondopa> sudo hcidump -at | grep -A 1 "User Passkey Notification"
[20:06] <Dondopa> This is the command I used
[20:06] <Dondopa> To get thereal passkey
[20:07] <cynixx3> Nice.
[20:08] <fdsadfa> How do I sign the Ubuntu CoC with a new gpg key?
[20:08] <Dondopa> Ever since then whther I restart,suspend or just leave it idle it is always connected
[20:08] <cynixx3> Do you think your having a similar problem with the mouse?
[20:08] <Dondopa> I want the samefor the mouse but it is more troublesome
[20:08] <Dondopa> Sometimes when I press and hold the scoll wheel on the mouse it reconnects
[20:08] <Dondopa> but it is very unreliable
[20:09] <Alakasam> hi everybody :)
[20:09] <cynixx3> Why not try the same process to get another permanent connection?
[20:09] <cynixx3> Hi
[20:10] <Alakasam> 5:10 pm in argentina now
[20:10] <fdsadfa> Can I just deactivate my current CoC signature and then re-sign it, or will that break something?
[20:10] <Alakasam> where are you from ?
[20:11] <Flannel> fdsadfa: Just sign it again, you don't need to deactivate the old one.
[20:11] <Flannel> fdsadfa: launchpad will keep track of the ones you've signed.
[20:11] <fdsadfa> Flannel, I don't see any directions on where to upload the new signed version
 connecting mouse does not prompt me for a passkey
[20:12] <Dondopa> it just connects
[20:12] <Dondopa> and it works temporarily before disconnecting again
[20:13] <cynixx3> I have to ask, But are the batteries really charged?
[20:13] <Dondopa> The battery is low
[20:13] <Dondopa> Do you think that has something to do with it?
[20:13] <Flannel> fdsadfa: fdsadfa https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Launchpad_Key_Signing has a link for where to upload it
[20:13] <Dondopa> Can low battery cause it to behave like that?
[20:14] <fdsadfa> Thanks Flannel
[20:14] <cynixx3> its very possible. as batteries decay they loose the ability to send a good signal. It may not be the problem your having but its a possibility.
[20:15] <Alakasam> the nick "Flannel" reminds me the simpsons episode The man in the blue flannel pants
[20:15] <cynixx3> if you connect the mouse to another computer does it work without problems?
[20:15] <cynixx3> Does the mouse go to auto sleep mode?
[20:16] <fdsadfa> Hey Flannel, sorry to bother you again, but when I try to clearsign the file, I get the message "You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key" but I'm not prompted for my passphrase
[20:16] <Dondopa> I connected it my laptop and it seemed to work fine.
[20:17] <cynixx3> So probably not a battery issue then.
[20:18] <Flannel> fdsadfa: Are you doing it in a terminal?
[20:18] <Dondopa> I am going to do another test with the laptop
[20:18] <fdsadfa> Flannel, yes
[20:18] <Dondopa> Maybe I concluded too son
[20:18] <Flannel> fdsadfa: That's strange.  It definitely should be asking you for a passphrase.  What's the command you're using?
[20:18] <fdsadfa> Flannel, "gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-2.0.txt"
[20:19] <fdsadfa> Flannel, I just noticed that it did create a file titled "ubuntuCodeOfConduct.txt.asc".  Is it possible that it worked?
[20:20] <fdsadfa> Flannel, looks like it did work after all
[20:20] <Flannel> fdsadfa: It is.  You could verify the signature.  I didn't think gpg had a password-cache thing, but maybe it does.
[20:20] <fdsadfa> Don't know what that error is about
[20:21] <fdsadfa> Flannel, thank you
[20:22] <Pwnna> does anyone here install with luks?
[20:22] <Pwnna> i'm getting stuck on choosing a secuirty key
[20:22] <Pwnna> it creates the partitions but doesn't move forward
[20:24] <fr-ub> hi
[20:25] <jseliga> Anyone running more than 2 monitors?
[20:27] <Alakasam> hi fr-ub
[20:28] <fr-ub> hi alakasam
[20:28] <rypervenche> Pwnna: Are you doing this manually or through the normal installer?
[20:29] <Pwnna> rypervenche: through the normal installer. erase disk and install. Doing it manually in the installer have the same effect
[20:29] <Pwnna> device /dev/sda5 not found in os-prober output
[20:29] <EiriksHDD> how  do I get rid of boot repair menu when I restart?
[20:30] <Pwnna> specifically, doing it manually in the installer gets stuck when i try to create the luks partition
[20:30] <EiriksHDD> I want to get rid of all grub, and boot repair and reinstall grub so it boots directly to ubuntu
[20:30] <cynixx3> EiriksHDD, you dont need to reinstall grub to do that.
[20:30] <cynixx3> just edit the boot options.
[20:31] <EiriksHDD> cynixx3, how do I do that?
[20:31] <fr-ub> is there any channel to talk about bash
[20:32] <EiriksHDD> I want to get rid of anything between BIOS and Ubuntu that isn't needed so I can have a the fastest boot possible, anyone know how to do that?
[20:33] <DJones> fr-ub: I think its ##bash
[20:33] <fr-ub> thanks Djones
[20:33] <cynixx3> EiriksHDD, here is a good grub article that will lead you on how to do many things: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[20:33] <EiriksHDD> right now my ubuntu is the only OS I have, and it's loading boot repair, then loading grub purple screen
[20:34] <root_> can i run a softether using wine
[20:34] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Well, If you are aware and have some ability, there is the minimal install. I run an old dual core Athlon system and I boot in 5 seconds.
[20:34] <EiriksHDD> I just want to see it run BIOS, then go right into Ubuntu on my USB cus that's my HDD and I have no internal drive
[20:35] <EiriksHDD> I already have everything I ant installed, I am looking to speed up my boot
[20:35] <EiriksHDD> ant = want
[20:36] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Nope, no can make fast, as the transfer speed across the bus for USB is slow .
[20:36] <EiriksHDD> i don't want to make that part fast, I want to make it boot the usb without sitting in grub for a while
[20:36] <tnli> Hiya, I noticed a weird bug, when I open the Google Chrome, I get a new instance of the icon on my doc, and it has a title of some ages old website on it when I hover the mouse over it, what's up?
[20:37] <tnli> I'm using ubuntu 14.04
[20:37] <root_> can i install softether vpn clinte using wine in ubuntu ..??
[20:37] <StickyRicky85> any big differences between chromium and chrome?
[20:37] <cynixx3> EiriksHDD, do you have grub booting directly to the use instead of trying to boot to a hdd?
[20:37] <cynixx3> chromium is a developers version.
[20:38] <EiriksHDD> yes, but it is hanging like it's trying to figure out where ubuntu is
[20:38] <EiriksHDD> then it figures it out
[20:38] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: The "timout" default in grub is 10 seconds, have you looked to see about editing that value in '/etc/default/grub' ?
[20:38] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om, doing that now
[20:38] <sigrokBlack> hello
[20:39] <StickyRicky85> is it practical for a non-developer to use instead of chrome?
[20:39] <belgianguy> StickyRicky85: Chrome is from Google, Chromium is the open-source browser on which Chrome is based
[20:39] <root_> ??
[20:40] <EiriksHDD> what happens if I change grub default to 1
[20:40] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Make backup 1st - SOP .. and DO not make the value '0'. As zero value no grub menu is diplayable and can then pressed problems.
[20:40] <root_> can i install softether vpn clinte using wine in ubuntu ..??
[20:40] <cynixx3> StickyRicky85, yes. its practical to use. Lots of fun features.
[20:40] <jseliga> Anyone using more than 2 monitors?
[20:40] <cynixx3> jseliga, just multiple workstations.
[20:40] <StickyRicky85> cool, i just didn't see chrome in software center but i know i can get it elsewhere.
[20:41] <StickyRicky85> ill give chromium a try for now.  seems like i tried it a couple years ago and couldn't get google maps to work
[20:41] <cynixx3> workspaces not workstations.
[20:41] <StickyRicky85> google earth*
[20:41] <root_> Can someone answer me pls ?
[20:42] <fr-ub> give it a try _root
[20:42] <cynixx3> root_, check the wine program compatibility list. wine works in ubutu.
[20:43] <jseliga> cynixx3, I can't seem to find any information about 3 or more monitors.  Everything I read says it's a hassle to get more than dual monitors working
[20:43] <cynixx3> jseliga, ya I have never tried 3 monitors. Getting that working would really depend on the video cards you have.
[20:44] <cynixx3> root_, check out this article https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[20:44] <jseliga> cynixx3, I don't have them yet, I'm looking to build new and am trying to plan accordingly
[20:46] <cynixx3> jseliga, check out the nvidia driver for ubuntu. Getting more than 2 is really going to depend on the vendor and their software. Your better off going with multiple workspace's on 2 monitors.
[20:46] <cynixx3> probably better*
[20:46] <fr-ub> vpn or vnc ???
[20:47] <cynixx3> ya I sent a link on the wrong topic.
[20:47] <root_> no problem , thanks any way
[20:48] <solsTiCe> root_: https://launchpad.net/~dajhorn/+archive/ubuntu/softether
[20:49] <fr-ub> well informed root_, so give it a try and make a feedback then
[20:50] <jseliga> cynixx3, thanks I'll keep checking back to see if anyone joins that is running it successfully
[20:51] <dajhorn> root_: The server must be installed natively (thanks, solsTiCe, for the plug).  The server manager runs perfectly in wine.
[20:51] <StickyRicky85> anybody familiar with "Hacking: The Art of Exploitation"??
[20:56] <Bicyclidine> OK, is there any good way to have the launcher and key switching (i.e. windows+1 switches to window 1 sorta thing) features of Unity, without Compiz? Because unity2d apparently stopped and a software rasterizer is not going to work on this machine.
[20:57] <p3rror> I have a remote server
[20:57] <p3rror> so I ran iptables -F
[20:58] <p3rror> now I dont have ssh connection
[20:58] <p3rror> I reboot the server from the hosting company interface
[20:58] <p3rror> and still not able to have ssh
[20:58] <p3rror> please can you help ?
[20:59] <cynixx3> Bicyclidine, Have you looked at the keyboard shortcut mapping?
[20:59] <smacktalk> so I did a sudo apt-get upgrade chrome and it's still on the same version
[20:59] <Bicyclidine> cynixx3: I don't know anything about that.
[20:59] <Bicyclidine> Oh, and the other thing is I'd like for windows to be fully maximized (I'm using gnome flashback metacity right now)
[20:59] <cynixx3> open the keyboard app and go to the shortcuts tab.
[20:59] <Bicyclidine> Looks good, thanks.
[21:00] <rypervenche> p3rror: If you can't telnet your SSH port, you might need to get console/KVM access to the remote server to fix it.
[21:01] <Bicyclidine> Anyway way I can make a keyboard shortcut "switch focus to browser or launch" instead of just launch?
[21:01] <rypervenche> p3rror: Your default policy is probably set to DROP and I guess it saved when you rebooted. You'll need console access to it to fx it.
[21:01] <Bashing-om> smacktalk:
[21:01] <Bashing-om> Google Chrome	39.0.2171.65 (Official Build) ; latest 'stable' build.
[21:02] <coder_> shadowe989 are u there?
[21:02] <smacktalk> it looked like it went through the upgrade process, but the browser says it's still on Version 35.0.1916.114
[21:04] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: Humm .. Google-chreome ? what have you for the version type in " /etc/apt/sources.list.d " 3rd party directory ?
[21:08] <p3rror> how to resert all iptables rules
[21:08] <smacktalk> it doesn't give any versions
[21:08] <p3rror> I ran iptables -F and I lost my ssh connection
[21:13] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: Mine: deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main . Where "stable main" is the 'version type' . Is your source similar ?
[21:14] <WyZeGuY> i have my required wifi driver http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=r90pyfz -- everything tells me wifi's not loading http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=N2uz0Kg and here http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=anDsyC1 and here http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=lw8UVCH and finally here http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=oDNbp2S does anyone know how i can turn my ubuntu's...
[21:14] <WyZeGuY> ...wifi on? those images provide the output to wifi terminal inquiries, such as ifconfig, iwconfig, lsmod, lshw, etc...
[21:16] <kylep1408> hello i need help
[21:16] <WyZeGuY> with what?
[21:18] <Fazer2> hey, how do I set an environmental variable on Linux so that a GUI application can see it? I added export FOO=true to ~/.bashrc, but it doesn't work
[21:18] <WyZeGuY> 0_0
[21:18] <kylep1408> i have a radeon R7260X 2Gb graphics card and i want to know will this work with zorin 8.0 core?\
[21:19] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3?
[21:20] <smacktalk> when  I do an sudo update, i get the error  Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[21:20] <kylep1408> any ideas ?
[21:21] <WyZeGuY> ur more advanced than me. i was gonna answer if u were more of a newbie than me. better wait for cynixx3 to answer that one
[21:21] <rww> !derivatives | kylep1408
[21:22] <WyZeGuY> kylep1408: or you could PM him, he's very helpful and extremely knowledgeable
[21:22] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: Then insudre there are not 2 enties in the source(s) list file(s) . Check '/etc/apt/sources.list' file and in the directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d' that google-chrome only exists once.
[21:22] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, i'm looking at your images.
[21:23] <kylep8479> i have a radeon R7260X 2Gb graphics card and i want to know will this work with zorin 8.0 core?\
[21:23] <WyZeGuY> kylep1408 oh never mind he's helping me first X-D yay! (but sorry)
[21:24] <kylep8479> is there a way i can make any graphics card compatible with zorin ?
[21:24] <kylep8479> .
[21:25] <WyZeGuY> kylep8479, just hold on a little bit
[21:25] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, I really wish you would have pastebin'd these results. but give me a few more minutes to read these.
[21:25] <kylep8479> any help guys ?
[21:25] <k1l> kylep8479: ask the zorin guys
[21:25] <kylep8479> where are they ?
[21:25] <k1l> see at their homepage.
[21:26] <Flannel> kylep8479: their IRC channel is #zorinOS , but they also have forums, etc
[21:26] <kylep8479> thanks for the help
[21:26] <smacktalk> how do you remove one line from file
[21:27] <smacktalk> is it a sed command?
[21:27] <WyZeGuY> sorry cynixx3. i'm only recently trying to catch up on anything legitimately tech. once i get that set up, then hopefully i can delve deeper. but i'm exhausted with research and quite simply don't know. i will remember pastebin for the future
[21:28] <usr13> smacktalk: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4881930/bash-remove-the-last-line-from-a-file
[21:28] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, its all good.
[21:29] <usr13> cynixx3: What is WyZeGuY trying to do?
[21:29] <nedal_> cynixx3, I can t figure out the difference between more and less !
[21:29] <cynixx3> enable a wifi driver.
[21:29] <WyZeGuY> usr13 set up wifi on my ubuntu 14.10 on asus q502la
[21:30] <WyZeGuY> intel 7260
[21:30] <cynixx3> its in his folder, but the network utils dont recognize wifi adapters at all.
[21:30] <usr13> Is that what lspci says?
[21:30] <usr13> WyZeGuY: lspci |grep ireless
[21:30] <p3rror> root@prod:~# service mysql stop
[21:30] <p3rror> stop: Unknown instance:
[21:30] <p3rror> why I get unknown instance
[21:31] <WyZeGuY> usr13 comes up blank
[21:31] <cynixx3> lspci is grep'd but it only shows the ethernet controller.
[21:31] <WyZeGuY> oh wait nvm
[21:32] <WyZeGuY> usr13 i added the "w" bcuz i thought you typo'd and it came up blank. when i typed it the wait you did it, it shows the Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev cb)
[21:32] <WyZeGuY> but still won't enable
[21:33] <usr13> WyZeGuY: May need ndiswrapper
[21:33] <WyZeGuY> in my completely disorganized attempt at research (due to my ignorance), someone said something about patching by hand. must i do that?
[21:33] <Mongey> Anyone know how I can get SSH to start as soon as possible on boot ?
[21:33] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Does iwconfig show wlan0 ?
[21:33] <WyZeGuY> usr13: okay, then i will download that to my usb, plug it into my other computer, and make install ndiswrapper?
[21:34] <WyZeGuY> no, it doesn't
[21:34] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Just "No wireless extensions"
[21:34] <usr13> ?
[21:34] <WyZeGuY> yes, for both eth0 and lo
[21:35] <WyZeGuY> i've been running on a pot of coffee each night and some energy drinks in order to stay up for the last three nights, trying to figure this junk out
[21:36] <usr13> WyZeGuY: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1305305
[21:36] <WyZeGuY> don't need to go to wireless.kernel.org anymore, because i know the driver is in my folder
[21:36] <WyZeGuY> ok i'll look at that
[21:36] <rypervenche> Mongey: It should already start as soon as possible. What problem(s) are you having?
[21:36] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Just looking at discussions about it from 14.04 users
[21:37] <WyZeGuY> i'm running 14.10 though
[21:37] <WyZeGuY> and i've seen that page, but didn't know what to make of it.
[21:37] <Mongey> Just on boot, there seems to be a service that's starting before it and takes a really long time rypervenche
[21:37] <WyZeGuY> usr13: i mean, that person's wifi "keeps dropping" but at least it enables. mine isn't recognized at all.
[21:37] <usr13> WyZeGuY: I know, but may be some helpful information there.  I'm seeing that some users had it working but not working well.
[21:38] <WyZeGuY> usr13: i'm going to try your ndiswrapper suggestion
[21:38] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Yes... which indicates that the module was not working and has been dropped or taken out of the kernel maybe.  Is it a usb device?
[21:39] <WyZeGuY> no it's an intel wifi card
[21:39] <usr13> WyZeGuY: PCI?
[21:39] <SunStar> my ubuntu wont load a desktop.  it's just a blinking white cursor on black screen.   i used to be able to open a tty and startx and that would get me up and running, but now it won't open a console with ctrl + alt + f#. i know the system works at least somewhat because i have a lamp stack running and the sites are all up.  any ideas?
[21:39] <WyZeGuY> usr13: should be
[21:39] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Desktop computer?
[21:39] <WyZeGuY> laptop
[21:40] <usr13> !nomodeset | SunStar Maybe???
[21:41] <SunStar> t's already nomodeset
[21:41] <usr13> WyZeGuY: So it is probably mini-pci but you have yet to look at and see?
[21:42] <Bashing-om> SunStar: What GUI do you have installed ?
[21:42] <WyZeGuY> i'd have no idea how to tell
[21:42] <usr13> SunStar: Ctrl-Alt-F6  gets you a console ?
[21:43] <usr13> WyZeGuY: There's usually a couple of removable covers on the bottom.
[21:43] <SunStar> it used to. not any more usr13  and it's running xfce
[21:43] <WyZeGuY> usr13 oh this computer just has one large flat cover for the entire bottom
[21:43] <usr13> SunStar: DO you have a proprietary video driver installed?
[21:43] <SunStar> xorg
[21:44] <usr13> SunStar: THat's not what Im talking about.
[21:44] <jseliga> Anyone using more than dual monitors?
[21:44] <usr13> SunStar: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf  #What does that say?
[21:44] <SunStar> nothing shows up in the driver section of software updater so it shouldnt be
[21:44] <dmatt> jseliga: sometimes three, but in kubuntu
[21:45] <jseliga> dmatt what version?
[21:45] <dmatt> 14.04
[21:45] <jseliga> Everything I have read suggests it's a hassle to get setup
[21:46] <jseliga> dmatt, Did it work "out of the box" for you?
[21:46] <dmatt> jseliga: used to be, now is plain simple
[21:46] <dmatt> jseliga: yes
[21:46] <SunStar> oooo i can still ssh into it
[21:46] <jseliga> dmatt: Are you using one or two graphics cards?
[21:46] <dmatt> jseliga: one
[21:46] <usr13> SunStar: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf  #What does that say?
[21:47] <jseliga> dmatt: Have you had any success using more than one graphics card?
[21:47] <dmatt> jseliga: capable to output fo ť monitors :D
[21:47] <dmatt> 5
[21:47] <SunStar> not found
[21:47] <dmatt> jseliga: no
[21:47] <usr13> SunStar: lspci |grep VGA
[21:47] <jseliga> dmatt: Have you tried using more than one?
[21:48] <usr13> SunStar: (What is the video chip?)
[21:48] <dmatt> jseliga: I was not aware it was possible, and never had need to
[21:48] <SunStar> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200 Series]
[21:48] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, can you run a cat dmesg | grep iwlwifi and pastebin it?
[21:48] <SunStar> ati xpress 400
[21:48] <SunStar> 200
[21:48] <jseliga> dmatt: Thanks
[21:49] <SunStar> the sticker on the tower says 400... ubuntu is reporting 200
[21:49] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3, yea, will have to transfer by usb then login so it'll be a moment
[21:49] <dmatt> jseliga: there is crossfire solutions, but that I believe shows as one graphic card, in what system is more cards at once supported?
[21:49] <Bashing-om> !manual
[21:50] <WyZeGuY> usr13, and i've copied the ndiswrapper tar gz to my ubuntu desktop, but i can't figure out how to install it
[21:51] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3, oh, no point in pasting it. comes up blank anyway
[21:51] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Wait.., It's not in the repos?
[21:51] <NixBox_Cisco> heey all
[21:51] <cynixx3> cat /var/log/dmesg |grep iwlwifi
[21:51] <jseliga> dmatt: I'm not sure, but I'm looking to build a quad monitor setup with two graphics cards.  In the Windows world it's plug-n-play, but I refuse to use that OS again.
[21:51] <NixBox_Cisco> trying to figure out if linux have remoteFX RDP clients
[21:52] <SunStar> it has plenty of RDP clients
[21:52] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3, also comes up blank
[21:52] <NixBox_Cisco> yes but do they support remotefx?
[21:53] <dmatt> jseliga: my notebook does 5 monitors, why two cards? do you develop games?
[21:54] <WyZeGuY> usr13: if having it in the computer's local repository means that "apt-get install ndiswrapper" returns "E: Unable to locate package ndiswrapper", then no, it's not in the repository\
[21:54] <usr13> WyZeGuY: How about: cat /var/log/dmesg |grep wifi
[21:54] <jseliga> Not many graphics cards have more than 3 outputs
[21:54] <Bashing-om> SunStar: Can you boot to terminal (TTY1) from the grub boot menu ? -> 'e' key for edit, and add 'text' to the kernel command line .
[21:54] <jseliga> dmatt: ^
[21:54] <WyZeGuY> usr13: that doesn't even return anything. just returns me down one, like i didn't type anything
[21:54] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Ok...
[21:55] <jseliga> dmatt: And the ones that do have different output types (1 HDMI, 1 DisplayPort, 1 VGA) on one card instead of a consistent type (3 HDMI)
[21:55] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, its like your device is not fully plugged in or powered.
[21:55] <SunStar> the splash screen still works btw
[21:55] <WyZeGuY> usr13: apt-get install ndiswrapper attempts to build dependency tree, but doesn't locate ndiswrapper
[21:55] <usr13> SunStar: I may be on the wrong track.  When did you first see this problem?  Today?
[21:56] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, I'm sorry but I really dont understand the problem and it seems to be over my head.
[21:56] <Bashing-om> SunStar: I hate to knock the server down, but I know of no other meaas to get to a terminal but to reboot .
[21:56] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3, well i haven't touched it since i installed ubuntu over win 8. i even replaced it back with win 8 enterprise eval to double check, and wifi came up, so i put it back to ubuntu, and it wouldn't read again
[21:56] <SunStar> i've been having the problem since firstboot.   in the past i just CTRL = ALT + F2 then startx. but CTRL + ALT + F# doesnt do anything anymore
[21:56] <SunStar> yeah thats fine
[21:56] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Are you 32bit or 64?
[21:56] <WyZeGuY> 64
[21:56] <SunStar> 64bit
[21:56] <usr13> Ok
[21:57] <usr13> WyZeGuY: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+package/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[21:57] <pwca> is there some painless way to update to 64bit?
[21:57] <SunStar> nope
[21:57] <pwca> I just want my files and configs mostly.
[21:58] <SunStar> pwca,  save your home folder into a folder called /bak then delete all the other fgolders and re-install
[21:58] <usr13> WyZeGuY: "You will also need the kernel module package.
[21:58] <WyZeGuY> usr13: i've already downloaded ndiswrapper and the extracted folder is sitting on my ubuntu desktop. i just don't know what to do with it
[21:58] <WyZeGuY> usr13: kernel module package haha i haven't learned what that is yet
[21:59] <dmatt> jseliga: I see... at this moment I would look for one card with 4 digital outputs for linux use ...
[21:59] <WyZeGuY> i'm trying to get it working first, so that as i'm sitting in the lounge at school i can study all this stuff and understand linux better. because i have loads of free time at school, but i need wifi for when i'm there
[22:00] <Bashing-om> pwca: Unless you have an excess of 4 gigs of ram, there is little profit in going 64 bit - and some small loss of performance .
[22:00] <pwca> Bashing-om: I am using software that requires 64bit.
[22:00] <WyZeGuY> usr13: then maybe in a few months i can be in your shoes, helping people in irc channels and writing tutorials :-P
[22:01] <Bashing-om> pwca: OK. Backup and (RE-)install the 64 bit version .
[22:01] <smacktalk> Bashing-om: I removed the extra entry in the  enties in the source(s) list'/etc/apt/sources.list' file and in the directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:01] <dmatt> jseliga: google shows there are some available
[22:01] <WyZeGuY> usr13: if i can understand it well enough, i want to start working on people's stuff, just going down the street and installing linux for people to replace windows. but do it stealthily hehehe be sneaky
[22:02] <smacktalk> still what now?  it's still coming up with the old version
[22:02] <usr13> WyZeGuY: What is the file-name?
[22:02] <WyZeGuY> usr13: (with the people's knowledge, but stay out of sight of the media)
[22:02] <WyZeGuY> usr13: the folder is called "ndiswrapper-1.59"
[22:03] <cerberus> hi
[22:03] <WyZeGuY> it has two subfolders, "driver" and "utils", along with an "INSTALL", "loadndisdriver.8", makefile, etc...
[22:03] <usr13> So, what is in it?
[22:03] <WyZeGuY> cerberus have you been on the irc with that username for several years now?
[22:03] <jseliga> dmatt: Does linux handle daisychaining DisplayPorts well?
[22:04] <Guest53265> no i just joined
[22:04] <curt> hi guys, I installed wine and it removed nvidia-libopencl-331 and now my drivers wont show up in additional drivers and prime is broken
[22:04] <curt> Ive tried reinstalling libopencl-331 and also purging and reinstalling nvidia-current
[22:04] <WyZeGuY> usr13: folder "driver", folder "utils", files: authors, changelog, install, loadndisdriver.8, makefile, ndiswrapper.8, ndiswrapper.spec, readme
[22:05] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: Don't know - yet - show us what is -> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit , sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit <- . see that the package manager is in a happy state.
[22:05] <dmatt> jseliga: don't know, I use separate connectors on my docking station
[22:06] <usr13> WyZeGuY: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:07] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: ndiswrapper isn't relevant for your situation, as i mentioned earlier today, you either need to compile a newer intel driver as per the link i provided or install a newer kernel
[22:08] <WyZeGuY> daftykins i installed ubuntu 14.10
[22:08] <usr13> WyZeGuY: You didn't try what daftykins suggested?
[22:08] <WyZeGuY> usr13: i did, i installed ubuntu 14.10 from 14.04
[22:08] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Were you on 14.04 earlier?
[22:08] <WyZeGuY> yes
[22:09] <usr13> Ok...
[22:09] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: that isn't doing either of my suggestions :)
[22:09] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: well then how to i "compile a newer intel driver" or newer kernel?
[22:09] <cynixx3> daftykins, WyZeGuY has the latest driver file.
[22:09] <curt> hey guys, after installing wine my nvidia drivers have up and dissapeared on me
[22:09] <daftykins> cynixx3: yes it's flawed.
[22:10] <daftykins> cynixx3: it doesn't factor in the revision of device
[22:10] <curt> wine made me remove nvidia-libopencl-331 ,ive tried reinstalling which didnt work
[22:10] <usr13> daftykins: Can you send the link again?
[22:10] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: so how do i factor in the revision of the device?
[22:10] <curt> also purging and reinstalling nvidia current didnt work
[22:10] <daftykins> no i've long since closed it.
[22:10] <cynixx3> okay.
[22:10] <neXyon> hi
[22:10] <daftykins> in fact i'm on a different computer now, let's see if i can't find it again
[22:10] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: you kind of just disappeared earlier
[22:11] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: also, earlier you claimed you were on 14.10 already?
[22:11] <neXyon> I'd like to setup a small home server to run email, files, pim data, web, etc. server daemons with the lowest possible energy consumption and budget, what hardware would you guys recommend? rasp pi?
[22:11] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: yea... my roommate was heading out for... church. sunday is the only day that i get to see my family and my truck is broke so i had to ride with him
[22:11] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: yea i let 14.10 install as i was at church
[22:12] <SunStar> hmmm   now i need to re-install.... it stopped booting up and i cant see what its doing. i think it's on the grub screen but i cant see anything. pressing enter does nothing
[22:12] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: 14.04 was installed earlier, then i tried running it live, wifi still didn't show up, so installed it to drive, and still didn't work
[22:12] <bubbasaures> neXyon, Love your plan, however this is ubuntu support on actual issues.
[22:12] <WyZeGuY> (running 14.10 live)
[22:13] <WyZeGuY> (now installed)
[22:13] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242147&p=13112184#post13112184
[22:13] <neXyon> bubbasaures: oh ok, sorry
[22:13] <SunStar> neXyon,  a odroid U3:  http://liliputing.com/2013/12/odroid-u3-59-dev-board-with-the-power-of-a-galaxy-s3.html
[22:15] <usr13> WyZeGuY: dmesg | grep iw
[22:15] <bubbasaures> SunStar, Stick with your issue and please do not just post offtopic.
[22:15] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: i found that link a few days ago, but i didn't understand what it was telling me to do. i tried to follow instruction, but i haven't a clue
[22:15] <WyZeGuY> usr13: nothing
[22:16] <usr13> WyZeGuY: SO this is a fresh 14.10 install.  Right?
[22:16] <SunStar> my issue is my ubuntu now wont boot anymore
[22:16] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Is it fully updated?
[22:16] <SunStar> so i guess its time to give up and reinstall
[22:16] <WyZeGuY> usr13: installed as of this morning. can't say it's fully updated because it hasn't connected to the internet
[22:16] <cynixx3> SunStar, boot a rescue disk and run a memtest before you reinstall
[22:16] <daftykins> usr13: i think the driver that's been updated to work with more revision numbers only exists in a 3.18+ kernel
[22:17] <usr13> WyZeGuY: If not, plug into wired internet connection and do all updates:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:18] <WyZeGuY> usr13: that's what i said earlier, i took it to my ethernet cable, network manager blinked and tried to activate, but never turned on, and just went blank again. i'm going to try doing this kernel upgrade instruction thing again
[22:18] <Bashing-om> SunStar: There are those times that (RE-(install is the better solution. However, presently all we have is "not booting" and prior upgrade Google-Chrome. Right, just small things ?
[22:18] <usr13> WyZeGuY: I think you should get updated first.
[22:18] <Guest64764> ciao a tutti
[22:18] <Guest64764> !list
[22:18] <WyZeGuY> usr13: how do i get updated if i can't get internet?
[22:19] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: your wired interface is working fine.
[22:19] <SunStar> well thats all i have. i turn it on, the BIOS does it's thing then it's just a black screen. no drive activity so it's not trying to load anything
[22:20] <usr13> WyZeGuY: If you can get hold of a  wireless bridge or a USB WiFi adapter, or have another PC do ICS and connect to it.... etc. etc.
[22:20] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: not according to my computer, when i plug the ethernet cable in. unless i did that wrong too. i unplugged it from the wifi router and plugged it into my computer. it tried to load and gave up
[22:20] <WyZeGuY> usr13: wireless bridge works through bluetooth?
[22:20] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, can you ping 127.0.0.1?
[22:20] <usr13> WyZeGuY: No.
[22:21] <usr13> WyZeGuY: DO you have an ethernet cable?
[22:21] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3: yes, it's going now
[22:21] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3: it's pinging
[22:21] <cynixx3> okay nvm
[22:21] <Bashing-om> SunStar: Yuk, How much bother is it to (RE-)install ? ( maybe we can boot the install from the liveDVD ?)
[22:21] <WyZeGuY> usr13: the ethernet cable is what plugs into the wifi router, right?
[22:22] <WyZeGuY> usr13: (sorry) i only have general self-taught knowledge and no real class knowledge.
[22:22] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, yes the non power cord.
[22:22] <usr13> daftykins: So what is the default kernel for a 14.10 install?
[22:22] <usr13> WyZeGuY: network cable = ethernet cable
[22:22] <WyZeGuY> usr13: well not really self-taught. a lot of talking with other people online and experimenting
[22:22] <daftykins> 3.14 maybe? i don't have the vaguest clue
[22:23] <usr13> WyZeGuY: It's ok... you are learning...
[22:23] <cynixx3> I'm still learning . . .
[22:23] <WyZeGuY> usr13: cynixx3: when i take that laptop to the wifi router, unplug the wifi router, and plug the cable into my computer, the network manager icon at the top-right starts flickering, which seems to be an improvement, but actually, it gives up after a couple minutes and says "Network disconnected"
[22:24] <cynixx3> usr13, think its a crossover cable?
[22:24] <smacktalk> ok...got chrome upgraded to v.39...
[22:25] <WyZeGuY> the ethernet cable plugs into a Motorola device, which then plugs into the wifi router
[22:25] <smacktalk> still doesn't work with netflix
[22:25] <smacktalk> sheesh!
[22:25] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: :) , What was holding the upgrade back ?
[22:25] <daftykins> cynixx3: look up auto MDI/MDI-X
[22:25] <usr13> daftykins: Looks like 3.17 or 3.16 ?  (Looking at http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu )
[22:26] <daftykins> !info linux-image-generic
[22:26] <daftykins> hmm 3.16 it is
[22:26] <usr13> WyZeGuY: uname -r  What does that say?
[22:26] <WyZeGuY> maybe that's why this kernel hates me. 3.16 for god so loved the world and i rejected god :-( god hates me now so he took away my wifi
[22:27] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Oh quit it.  What does uname -r say?
[22:27] <daftykins> please don't bring religion in here.
[22:27] <WyZeGuY> 3.16.0-23-generic
[22:27] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, if you run ifconfig, does eth0 have a 169. address?
[22:28] <WyZeGuY> eth0 looks like it has a mac address
[22:28] <WyZeGuY> lo has an inet address
[22:28] <WyZeGuY> lo has 127.0.0.1
[22:28] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Do you have a network cable plugged into your router?
[22:28] <cynixx3> your laptop should be plugged into the modem / router. and your eth0 has no IP address?
[22:29] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Look at the eth0 section, (from ifconfig output).
[22:29] <WyZeGuY> no it's not plugged in right now. the router is in my roommate's room
[22:29] <WyZeGuY> should i plug it in and report back?
[22:29] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: ^^, Netflix with Google-crome now should just work ! see : http://www.pcworld.com/article/2824623/ubuntu-linux-gets-netflix-without-weird-workarounds.html .
[22:30] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Go to your room mate's room, plug it in and do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:30] <cynixx3> yes please. I am looking into why your not pulling an IP address. I think its because the modem is not outputting a new dhcp address until its rebooted.
[22:30] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Or get a network cable long enough to reach your computer's current location.,
[22:30] <smacktalk> yeah, it says Netflix is supported in Chrome 37
[22:31] <usr13> WyZeGuY: I would just go outside to my truck and make a cable as long as I want.  ;)
[22:31] <smacktalk> i'm running chrome 39 and it's not working...upgraded from 37 just to watch netflix
[22:31] <smacktalk> flippin heck!
[22:31] <usr13> WyZeGuY: ... spool off some cable, cut it, crimp on connectors. Done.
[22:32] <daftykins> cynixx3: sorry but what you're saying is total guess work
[22:32] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Home depo would do it for you.
[22:32] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: I do not run 'Netflix' so I can not longer add anything usefull.
[22:32] <cynixx3> it is. but there's not much to go off of.
[22:33] <daftykins> cynixx3: well, it's worse than that... you don't sound like you know the topic.
[22:33] <k1l> smacktalk: see this and maybe the comments: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/10/psa-netflix-ubuntu-now-working-box
[22:34] <cynixx3> im not talking about his wifi issue. I was looking into why his eth0 was not pulling an IP address so he could update via an ethernet cable.
[22:34] <cynixx3> I gave up on wifi when user13 stepped in.
[22:34] <daftykins> cynixx3: yes i know - also terrible advice i'm afraid.
[22:35] <cynixx3> Channel is all yours daftykins
[22:36] <Rhenium> i encrypted my HHD in installation and now i cant access BIOS is there any fix to this?
[22:36] <daftykins> cynixx3: the user is already receiving help, 2+ of us messaging at once will just confuse, just leave it to them
[22:36] <usr13> Well, yea.  It is going to be a lot easier for him to try and get software for his WiFi chip if he gets an internet connection.  And, as I said before, I'd do updates first... who knows, there may be an updated kernel that will solve his problem.
[22:36] <daftykins> it looks like it's a known issue with 14.10 and specific revisions of intel 7260
[22:37] <Hganavak> Hi guys, I want to dual boot Ubuntu alongside windows but I have the Windows OS installed on a small SSD (with all my documents etc installed on a couple of SATA drives). Can I install Ubuntu on one of the SATA drives, even though my Windows bootloader is installed on the SSD? I don't want to take up anymore space on the SSD
[22:37] <usr13> daftykins: I know... I saw that.  Which is why I was thinking he might be better off to just go with ndiswrapper
[22:37] <usr13> daftykins: .. for now anyway.
[22:37] <WyZeGuY> apt-get update didn't work, because even with the ethernet, it didn't pick anything up
[22:38] <daftykins> Hganavak: yes
[22:38] <usr13> WyZeGuY: ifconfig  eth0
[22:38] <WyZeGuY> i don't know if you guys messaged me over the last few minutes. wifi was unplugged so this computer didn't receive any messages
[22:38] <no_gravity> Is there a difference between mint and ubuntu mate?
[22:38] <usr13> WyZeGuY: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 |grep broadcast
[22:38] <k1l> no_gravity: yes.
[22:38] <WyZeGuY> usr13: ifconfig says "Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr [looks like mac address]
[22:39] <k1l> mint is not supported here because it handles things differently.
[22:39] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Yes, that line would show your mac address
[22:39] <SLAX03> mint is another distribution
[22:39] <usr13> WyZeGuY: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 |grep broadcast
[22:39] <WyZeGuY> should i run that /sbin/ifconfig stuff when it's plugged in? because nothing returned on it just now
[22:40] <Hganavak> daftykins: Do I just shrink one of the SATA drives and put all my Ubuntu partitions in that free space? I won't have issues with grub being installed on the HDD and Windows being installed on the SSD?
[22:40] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Yes, plug it in.
[22:40] <WyZeGuY> usr13: and even after look at those tutorials, i still don't understand how to install ndiswrapper
[22:40] <daftykins> Hganavak: yes use Windows to resize one of the NTFS volumes on the mechanical disks to make some space
[22:40] <usr13> WyZeGuY: How did you download it?
[22:40] <WyZeGuY> can we try doing that first?
[22:40] <daftykins> Hganavak: although what do you hope to use ubuntu for?
[22:41] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Ok. First we need to do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:41] <WyZeGuY> i downloaded it from the link on that page. http connection. it was a .tar.gz compressed file. i put it on my usb drive and switched it to my Asus. then i extracted it to my desktop
[22:42] <no_gravity> how trustworthy is ubunt-mate.org? the software from there is probably not checked by canonical, right?
[22:42] <WyZeGuY> it's missing the /pcie folder inside of /wireless, that the tutorial refers to. the tutorial refers to a /pcie folder, which is not in the downloaded .tar.gz
[22:42] <k1l> no_gravity: it is trustworthy
[22:42] <Hganavak> daftykins: Everything except my competitive gaming, which I've used most of the 128GB ssd chucking the two games I play on.
[22:42] <usr13> WyZeGuY: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/1.59-2
[22:42] <WyZeGuY> usr13: build-essential doesn't do anything. it says it's up to date
[22:42] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Yea, because you have no internet connection.
[22:43] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Why is it not connecting?
[22:43] <k1l> no_gravity: the team is well known ubuntu and canonical devs and they work on becoming an official flavour but they were too late for the 14.10 release
[22:43] <WyZeGuY> to the ethernet? i don't know. when i plug the cable back in to the wifi router, i get wifi on this computer. but ethernet from the modem doesn't do anything for it.
[22:43] <no_gravity> k1l: what is an official flavour?
[22:44] <k1l> no_gravity: ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu,...
[22:44] <Daqinam> I've run in to a slight problem: In a terminal I typed "compiz" and all the screen seemed to refresh and then it seemed normal again (presumably now with compiz running). Once I closed the terminal, however, suddenly all the text in the OS has gotten a lot smaller
[22:44] <no_gravity> k1l: i mean what does it mean if a distro is an official ubuntu flavor.
[22:44] <WyZeGuY> usr13: of the 3 ndiswrapper files provided, i download the original (middle one), right?
[22:44] <k1l> no_gravity: its trustworthy :)
[22:45] <k1l> and it gets supported by the community
[22:45] <bubbasaures> Daqinam, I would logout than back in and give us the details of your problem.
[22:46] <Hganavak> daftykins: Actually I've managed to free a total of 40GB on my SSD. I've spent hours Googling and haven't found a good tutorial on installing Ubuntu on an SSD with other partitions on the mechanical drives - alongside Windows.
[22:46] <usr13> WyZeGuY: You will first need an internet connection.  If you have a network cable, you should be able to plug into the router and get a connection.
[22:46] <daftykins> Hganavak: which Windows? do you know if it's on there as EFI or legacy?
[22:46] <Hganavak> Windows 8, legacy.
[22:47] <WyZeGuY> cable to modem -> cable to computer will work? or does it have to be: cable to modem -> cable to wifi router -> cable to computer?
[22:47] <owen1> how to turn my End key into left mouse click? I tried xbindkeysrc - "b:1" m:0x0 + c:115 but it's not doing anything. any ideas?
[22:47] <daftykins> Hganavak: ok, so as long as you boot an ubuntu off a flash drive in legacy mode, you should be able to partition anywhere you want and let it install GRUB to the primary disk (in this case the SSD) which would hopefully come up as /dev/sda
[22:48] <Daqinam> It says "Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors"
[22:48] <Daqinam> "Error on line 1 char 1: Document must begin with an element (e.g. <book>)"
[22:48] <Daqinam> and then clicking ok on that dialog makes the text within all the programs go really small again
[22:49] <bubbasaures> Daqinam, We need details of the issue not random info.
[22:49] <Daqinam> and it makes my keyboard layout update (I use a German layout but it was set to English US immediately upon logging back in)
[22:49] <no_gravity> k1l: will canonical check and distribute the binaries when it becomes an official flavor?
[22:50] <daftykins> Hganavak: just take the installer slowly :>
[22:50] <Daqinam> What counts as details and not just random info? :s
[22:50] <k1l> no_gravity: what is the intention behind that questions?
[22:50] <bubbasaures> Daqinam, Really? Read your posts and ask yourself how we would attach that to an issue in a usable sense.
[22:51] <Hganavak> daftykins: Alrighty. Will I need to shrink my partitions on both my SSD and my HDD then? If I'm installing grub and / (I assume?) on the SSD, and the rest on the HDD
[22:51] <no_gravity> k1l: im thinking about trying ubuntu mate. so im trying to understand how trustworthy it is / will be.
[22:51] <daftykins> Hganavak: you could get by with just using 20GB for the / partition, so that could live on the SSD then a /home elsewhere
[22:52] <k1l> no_gravity: as an official flavour you need to meet certain criterias. if you dont trust ubuntu at all you dont need to use mint because that relys on ubuntu packages
[22:53] <scottyarwood> hi. I have an amd graphics card and when I watch videos on vlc through hdmi there is lots of screen tearing. Is there any way that I can fix this?
[22:53] <bubbasaures> Daqinam, Good guide. https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc   You have a compiz issue it seems, release, desktop and the actual problem are critical.
[22:53] <Hganavak> daftykins: Yup, but am I correct in understanding I've should go ahead and shrink the SSD and HDD now? I.e. shrink the SSD by 20GB and then shrink the HDD by say, 200GB?
[22:54] <bubbasaures> Hganavak, resize windows with it's partitioner is all.
[22:55] <scottyarwood> hi. I have an amd graphics card and when I watch videos on vlc through hdmi there is lots of screen tearing. Is there any way that I can fix this?
[22:56] <scottyarwood> hi. I have an amd graphics card and when I watch videos on vlc through hdmi there is lots of screen tearing. Is there any way that I can fix this?
[22:57] <Hganavak> bubbasaures , daftykins: Why don't I have to shrink the drive where all my documents for Windows are stored? I've got the OS installed on my SSD, but all my libraries stored on the SSD. Here's a screenshot for clarification http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=oqvqdw&s=8#.VHJlwIuUcg8
[22:59] <Bashing-om> scottyarwood: Many factors at play here; What card ? , what driver is intalled ? how much memory does the system have, how much memory is on the card ?
[22:59] <bubbasaures> Hganavak, daftykins is excellent help, I just chimed in with using the windows partitioner to resize the partition of it's OS is all.
[22:59] <fdsadfa> Is there a way to file a bug against the wiki?
[22:59] <scottyarwood> gallium0.9 is my driver and the card is the el essential
[22:59] <daftykins> Hganavak: yep right click shrink
[23:00] <scottyarwood> Bashing-om: gallium0.9 is my driver and the card is the el essential
[23:00] <daskdt> Is there a way to burn a bootable usb drive for windows  8.1 from uunstu 12
[23:01] <daftykins> daskdt: sure, dd the ISO onto a 4GB FAT formatted partition
[23:01] <daskdt> daftykins: cli cmd?
[23:02] <daftykins> yes
[23:02] <amriunix> daskdt: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[23:02] <daskdt> thak you
[23:02] <Bashing-om> scottyarwood: I do not recognize " el essential " .. show us : sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit . We see what we might then advise.
[23:02] <scottyarwood> Bashing-om: I meant gallium0.4 as my driver and I have 3.5gb of memory and the official name of my graphics card is amd E1-1200
[23:02] <daskdt> no
[23:02] <daskdt> im on ubuntu
[23:02] <daskdt> i need to make a windows iso bootable on a usb
[23:03] <amriunix> daskdt: oh ok !! there are a tool on ubuntu call "startup Disk Creator"
[23:03] <daftykins> daskdt: do you intend to install windows 8.1 in EFI mode? if so, you only need to extract the contents onto the drive. no special boot methods.
[23:03] <k1l> daskdt: i am not aware that works with windows isos at all
[23:04] <usr13> Hganavak: You can use the 10G for swap and root ( / ) and the 200G for /home/
[23:04] <usr13> *20G* not 10G
[23:05] <scottyarwood> bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/8ABUGjzd
[23:05] <fdsadfa> Anyone?  Any way to file a bug against wiki.ubuntu.com?
[23:05] <amriunix> daskdt: have you check it ??
[23:05] <Bashing-om> scottyarwood: looking at http://pastebin.com/8ABUGjzd .
[23:05] <usr13> Hganavak: Or use the 200G for swap and /home/ partitions, and the 20G for /
[23:06] <bubbasaures> daskdt, ntfs partition with a bootflag and the iso extracted, you can mount the iso with right click disk image mounter.
[23:06] <usr13> Hganavak: You say you have 2 areas of free space. Right?
[23:07] <Hganavak> usr13: Yup, here's a screenshot http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=oqvqdw&s=8#.VHJlwIuUcg8
[23:07] <daskdt> mark starup disk never enables on startup disk creator
[23:07] <shibboleth> Anyone care to confirm a bug? You will need a laptop+dock/pc with removable sound adapter
[23:07] <Hganavak> usr13: So based on how I've mapped my drives in Windows. I'm going to want to shrink the C: by 20GB and the F: by around 200GB? And when I'm installing Ubuntu I'll be able to spread my partitions over those two free spaces
[23:08] <daftykins> Hganavak: have you not made space yet?
[23:08] <daftykins> Hganavak: correct.
[23:08] <Hganavak> daftykins: No, just making sure that I understood right. Okay cool
[23:08] <bubbasaures> daskdt, That is a ubuntu iso only app.
[23:08] <daftykins> Hganavak: see how much Windows will let you resize F: by, first
[23:09] <daskdt> bubbasaures: what should i use then?
[23:09] <bubbasaures> daskdt, ntfs partition with a bootflag and the iso extracted, you can mount the iso with right click disk image mounter.
[23:10] <daskdt> i had this same issue last time
[23:10] <bubbasaures> daskdt, Use gparted format the usb to ntfs right click the partition and enable the boot flag close gparted, than mount the iso and extract to the usb.
[23:10] <daskdt> im a freaking CCNP and i cant burn an iso to a usb on ubuntu
[23:12] <Bashing-om> scottyarwood: Not good, bug for 12.04 with this chip set: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-trusty/+bug/1352843 . maybe not able to install a proprietary diver (?) .
[23:12] <Hganavak> daftykins: Yup I can shrink it up to 800GB. About to shrink it by 200GB but I just remembered something. The computer actually contains two 1TB drives, however as you can see in the previous screenshot it's only showing up as one (F:) 2TB drive
[23:13] <Hganavak> daftykins: Which I'm guessing they logically merged somehow when they installed the PC. Will this cause issues?
[23:13] <scottyarwood> Bashing-om: Do you know what I can do to fix this?
[23:13] <WyZeGuY> I have gone to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242147&page=2&p=13112184#post13112184 and added the extra line to try to recognize the driver to update the kernel. When I saved and exited Gedit, I tried to compile, as the instruction said, but not any step of the compilation worked.
[23:14] <daftykins> Hganavak: oh so it's RAID? that kind of puts a massive fail on the plan
[23:15] <Bashing-om> scottyarwood: Sorry, I do not 'know' there is a fix. You can try and install a proprietary driver from the 'Additional Drivers' utility.
[23:15] <Hganavak> daftykins: I'm not sure sorry, if that's what it's called then sure? :(
[23:15] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Did you do sudo apt-get update ?
[23:15] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: yeah you probably don't have the ubuntu package build-essential installed, but without a working *wired* interface to the router at your place, it's not going to be easy to install it.
[23:16] <scottyarwood> Bashing-om:thanks! I'll try that!
[23:16] <daftykins> Hganavak: as in at some point before Windows boots, there's a screen you've entered to configure 2 x 1TB disks to be one single volume?
[23:16] <scottyarwood> Bashing-om: thanks! I'll try that!
[23:16] <WyZeGuY> usr13: apt-get update doesn't work without internet. daftykins: ubuntu tells me build-essential is installed
[23:17] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: via what means?
[23:17] <Bashing-om> scottyarwood: From the bug reports, Maybe will install .. but still worth a try .
[23:17] <usr13> WyZeGuY: The link you sent us assumes you have internet
[23:17] <Hganavak> daftykins: I didn't build this PC. But I do know that it contains two 1TB drives and they are showing up as a single volume, yes.
[23:17] <scottyarwood> I'm trying right now
[23:17] <daftykins> Hganavak: ok, yeah that's going to ruin the plan then i'm afraid
[23:17] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: apt-get install build-essential
[23:17] <WyZeGuY> usr13: yes, this toshiba accesses wifi
[23:18] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: you can't run an install command on a system that's not even online
[23:18] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: d'oh!
[23:18] <Hganavak> daftykins: So you can't install Ubuntu when two drives have been set to be a single volume in Windows?
[23:18] <daftykins> Hganavak: yeah the RAID setups are incompatible
[23:18] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Use your other laptop, share it's connection.
[23:18] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Do you know how to do ICS?
[23:18] <Hganavak> daftykins: No roundabouts?
[23:19] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: so i need internet to get the update i need, which will get me internet : - ?
[23:19] <usr13> WyZeGuY: What OS is on it?
[23:19] <WyZeGuY> usr13: nope, but i'd love to learn whatever it is
[23:19] <usr13> WyZeGuY: What is the OS?
[23:19] <WyZeGuY> usr13: Toshiba has Win 8.1 enterprise evaluation
[23:19] <WyZeGuY> thats what i'm using to chat with you guys right now
[23:19] <daftykins> Hganavak: nope, also if i understand you correctly, you know none of the data on your F: drive is safe, because one disk dies - they both die?
[23:20] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Just a minute... let me see...
[23:20] <WyZeGuY> this is the dilemma that people are in when they "need money to get a car, so that they can get a good job to get money". it's like, AAH!
[23:20] <Hganavak> daftykins: If it were all installed on one drive, and that drive died - it wouldn't be any safer?
[23:20] <usr13> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/using-internet-connection-sharing#1TC=windows-7
[23:20] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: kind of, but i'd hope those people can plug a network cable in :D
[23:21] <kazdax> okay my system is kinda slow
[23:21] <kazdax> it says
[23:21] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Sell your computers and buy a car
[23:21] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: :'-( but i plugged it in lol
[23:21] <kazdax> there is a red stop sign on my desktop taskbar
[23:21] <WyZeGuY> usr13: i have a truck. it's just broken so i take the bus
[23:21] <kazdax> it says Error:brokencount > 0
[23:21] <usr13> WyZeGuY: See my PM
[23:21] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: laptop -> router LAN port -> modem -> cable service, yes?
[23:21] <WyZeGuY> just sold my motorcycle :-(
[23:22] <smacktalk> what kind of motorcycle?
[23:22] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: i did not follow that lol
[23:22] <daftykins> that's off topic here.
[23:22] <WyZeGuY> smacktalk: red 09 ninja 250r... i know sucky but i got it for gas milage 70mpg
[23:22] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: true ok
[23:22] <kazdax> any idea
[23:22] <kazdax> the updater is taking all memory
[23:22] <smacktalk> i'm trying to sell a little 883 harley...
[23:22] <kazdax> and it disnt showing me anything
[23:23] <kazdax> it just has its icon on the right panel
[23:23] <usr13> WyZeGuY: See my PM
[23:23] <kazdax> this isa unity windows
[23:23] <k1l> kazdax: what did you do?
[23:23] <kazdax> kll no idea
[23:23] <kazdax> well i tried to restart the update manager
[23:23] <daftykins> Hganavak: i don't follow your question
[23:23] <kazdax> and i think it wa installing updates
[23:23] <kazdax> somehow something went wrong
[23:23] <kazdax> and now the updater is in the bhout showing me any dialog ackground doing its thing ..wit
[23:24] <kazdax> or any window that i can see whats going on
[23:24] <kazdax> the last time said..you wont be able to install applications on this system
[23:24] <kazdax> till you fix it by doing suda apt-get install -f i think
[23:25] <membrell_> hello guys
[23:25] <membrell_> can you help me? its urgent
[23:25] <k1l> kazdax: then do it
[23:26] <daftykins> membrell_: not until you ask a question
[23:26] <daskdt> why does onvert to nsf take so long for usb
[23:26] <daskdt> 19min remain?
[23:27] <bubbasaures> daskdt, How big is this usb?
[23:27] <daskdt> 4gb
[23:27] <membrell_> daftykins: ok:)
[23:27] <Rhenium> is there a way to put updates in another place than /boot?
[23:27] <membrell_> Is here anyone from the UK, or London?
[23:27] <k1l> Rhenium: can you give more informations?
[23:27] <bubbasaures> daskdt, Never had that long here.
[23:27] <daftykins> membrell_: please ask an actual ubuntu support question
[23:27] <k1l> membrell_: do you have an ubuntu issue?
[23:27] <daskdt> i have a test  i need to take
[23:27] <bazhang> !uk | membrell_
[23:28] <daskdt> i need to burn this win iso
[23:28] <Hganavak> daftykins: No problemo. What if I chuck another mechanical drive in it dedicated to Ubuntu? Would that work?
[23:28] <daftykins> Hganavak: yip
[23:28] <bubbasaures> jolly-hoe
[23:28] <Hganavak> daftykins: High-ho, it's off to the store we go
[23:28] <Rhenium> k1l: im having lots of problems with updates with my laptop my /boot is full so i cant update to a new version id's like the update to place the new files in /home or something if that is possible?
[23:29] <bubbasaures> Rhenium, Clean the boot.
[23:29] <k1l> Rhenium: only new kernels get into boot
[23:29] <k1l> Rhenium: remove old kernel packages
[23:29] <Rhenium> i cant remove old ones
[23:29] <Rhenium> i get a strange error
[23:30] <k1l> show in pastebin please
[23:31] <Rhenium> yes boss
[23:31] <Marasgeon> I want to ask if I write a paper in Libre and save it as docx format, will all my formations of the paper shown in ms word, correctly?
[23:31] <tencendur> how do I get 14.04 with kde to only boot to console, and not all the way into X (kde)?
[23:32] <k1l> !text | tencendur
[23:34] <k1l> Marasgeon: most stuff will work
[23:34] <tencendur> k1l: I've done that, even set "GRUB_TERMINAL=console". Still no joy... booting continues via kdm into kde. rcconf doesn't seen to work in 14.04 either.
[23:35] <Rhenium> http://pastebin.com/zhAu3hmE
[23:35] <k1l> tencendur: it should work with lightdm
[23:35] <usr13> tencendur: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[23:35] <k1l> and lightdm is standard even for kubuntu iirc
[23:35] <usr13> tencendur: What is your end goal?
[23:35] <Marasgeon> k1l: Number of pages for example or fonts?
[23:35] <tencendur> k1l: no lightdm listed in "ps ax"
[23:36] <k1l> Marasgeon: or alignment
[23:36] <Marasgeon> K1l: thanks a lot! Good night everyone
[23:36] <tencendur> usr13: I have video capture and transcoding scripts that don't need the overhead of X.
[23:36] <k1l> tencendur: updated? since 12.10 its lightdm
[23:37] <usr13> tencendur: What version of Ubuntu or Kbuntu do you have installed?
[23:37] <tencendur> k1l: it's actually the kxtudio distro.
[23:37] <tencendur> kxstudio
[23:37] <Rhenium> k1l: here is the error http://pastebin.com/1XNtJs1L
[23:37] <k1l> tencendur: well. other distros handle stuff differently. so better ask them
[23:37] <tencendur> usr13: it's 14.04.
[23:38] <bazhang> !alis | tencendur have a search
[23:39] <usr13> tencendur: 32bit or 64?
[23:39] <k1l> Rhenium: that sounds like a ram hardware issue
[23:39] <tencendur> k1l: ok. i tried that before, and they made the same suggestions as here, but I agree that they're doing something different
[23:39] <tencendur> usr13:  64bit
[23:40] <usr13> tencendur: I suppose you could rename the lightdm script
[23:40] <Rhenium> k1l: should i try doing this with only one memory plugged in or what?
[23:40] <usr13> tencendur: sudo mv /etc/init/lightdm /etc/init/lightdm.bak
[23:41] <tencendur> usr13: shouldn't the lightdm process persist after entering the GUI?
[23:42] <k1l> Rhenium: restart and choose the memory test in grub
[23:43] <usr13> tencendur: Yes, that is correct.  So you are using kdm?
[23:43] <usr13> tencendur: Or....?
[23:43] <talsino> buenas tardes
[23:43] <Hganavak> daftykins: Thanks for your help btw. An real hero.
[23:43] <usr13> tencendur: What ever it is, just rename it.
[23:43] <usr13> tencendur: Or remove the executable bit.
[23:44] <daftykins> Hganavak: no problemo
[23:44] <tencendur> usr13: a lightdm script exists in init.d, but on lightdm process is running after GUI login. a kdm process exists though.
[23:44] <tencendur> but on -> but no
[23:45] <usr13> ls /etc/init.d/kdm*
[23:45] <tencendur> /etc/X11/default-display-manager  =  /usr/bin/kdm
[23:46] <tencendur> ls: cannot access /etc/init.d/kdm*: No such file or directory   ...that's why I'm so confused!
[23:47] <usr13> tencendur: I don't know..
[23:47] <daskdt> why is it so hard to make a bootable win iso usb on ubuntu
[23:47] <daskdt> wtf
[23:47] <nszceta> I feel that pain bro
[23:47] <nszceta> I use Rufus on a Windows machine always
[23:47] <daskdt> i have a ntfs usb and still wtf
[23:47] <nszceta> or Windows VM
[23:48] <daskdt> this is absurb
[23:48] <nszceta> yes
[23:48] <daskdt> absurd
[23:48] <xangua> ! Language | daskdt
[23:48] <k1l> daskdt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-with-ubuntu
[23:48] <usr13> tencendur: What is the name of the distro again?
[23:48] <tencendur> usr13: kxstudio
[23:48] <k1l> daskdt: and that is not an issue with ubuntu that windows doesnt like been put on usb form not windows
[23:49] <usr13> tencendur: /join #kxstudio
[23:49] <daskdt> Kil: ive never had an issue doing it on windows
[23:49] <mackie> Got a simple question, I suspect, very n00b. I'm trying to learn the command line. I've found that ./executable can run executables, but how do I run an executable in another folder, say I'm in /home/mack and want to run /home/mack/games/goop/executable, and how do I do so such that it still seeks out all its little bits and pieces in its proper folder?
[23:49] <astropirate> Hello friends
[23:49] <daftykins> daskdt: as i asked earlier, are you going to be install windows 8.1 in *EFI* mode?
[23:49] <tencendur> usr13:  thx, already there.
[23:49] <daskdt> daftykins: whatever works
[23:50] <astropirate> How does upstart actually stop a process? What signal does it send to the process to have it stop?
[23:50] <daskdt> i dont care as long as i can boot from usb
[23:50] <daskdt> winusb doesnt detect usb drives
[23:50] <daskdt> so that tut is useless
[23:51] <usr13> tencendur: See my PM
[23:52] <daftykins> daskdt: so just extract the data from inside the ISO onto a 4GB FAT partition, EFI capable hardware will boot that just fine.
[23:52] <daftykins> daskdt: like i told you earlier.
[23:52] <daskdt> use native fs to open iso and drag and drop onto usb?
[23:53] <daftykins> daskdt: what do you mean by "native FS"?
[23:53] <daskdt> am i using ubuntu archive manager to drag and drop onto usb?
[23:54] <daftykins> whatever will work to extract the ISO
[23:54] <daftykins> extract it first, then copy
[23:54] <Dondopa> Lol i had to install Ubuntu 14.04 because lame ass microshit windows forced me to update to windows 8.1, overheated my fan, freezed my screen,gives me a non functioning graphics driver and some other windows based nonsense
[23:54] <mackie> Dondopa: I feel your pain!
[23:54] <bazhang> no cursing here please Dondopa
[23:54] <Dondopa> sorry
[23:56] <daftykins> Dondopa: i can't even begin to suggest what's wrong with all those claims.
[23:56] <daftykins> Dondopa: ubuntu support only in here though, thanks
[23:57] <Dondopa> claims?
[23:57] <mackie> Though Dondopa, are you familiar enough with the command line to give a n00b a hand with something?
[23:57] <Dondopa> You insult me if you think I am making this up.
[23:57] <mackie> 'Cause I know curse-all.
[23:57] <daftykins> mackie: address the channel with a support question.
[23:57] <bazhang> Dondopa, please take chit chat to the proper channel, #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:58] <k1l> Dondopa: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat. please keep this channel clear for the users with technical issues. thanks
[23:58] <mackie> Dafty: I did. Was it poorly phrased?
[23:58] <Dondopa> Ok
[23:58] <daftykins> mackie: you made the mistake of highlighting a single user, yes.
[23:58] <daftykins> mackie: and you didn't ask a question yet.
[23:58] <mackie> ... Wrong on both counts, so I'll reiterate.
[23:58] <mackie> Got a simple question, I suspect, very n00b. I'm trying to learn the command line. I've found that ./executable can run executables, but how do I run an executable in another folder, say I'm in /home/mack and want to run /home/mack/games/goop/executable, and how do I do so such that it still seeks out all its little bits and pieces in its proper folder?
[23:59] <k1l> mackie: just put the folders before the filename
[23:59] <mackie> Odd. I guess I did it wrong, 'cause I thought that's what I did. How should it look?