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avoiderIs there a way to stop turn off the auto screen lock01:48
holsteinavoider: i just remove the locker01:56
avoiderWhats the command holstein01:58
holsteinavoider: i use the package manager of my choice (which synaptic is a nice GUI one) to search and see what locker i am using.. then i use that package manager to remove it02:01
avoiderholstein: thanks02:10
rayq_secJust go to 'Settings' --> 'Light Locker Settings' -- Enable light-locker 'ON' -- Automatically Lock the Session 'NEVER'02:23
rayq_secThat way you can CTL-ALT-DEL to lock it manually if you want02:23
wmwCan anyone please help me with /dev/video ? it is not there.03:35
holsteinwmw: what are you trying to do?03:35
wmwholstein, sir, my webcam is not working.03:36
wmwAnd /dev/video is not there.03:36
holsteinwmw: i would first try and see it in lspci, or lsusb.. or in the bios.. and ideally, working in an operating system that the device creators provide support for..03:37
holsteinthen you will know that the device is working properly.. then, i would use "cheese" to test.. and/or vlc03:37
wmwI checked lspci and lsusb both, but it does not seem to be present there either. The problem started the first time with me when I fresh installed Ubuntu 14.1003:38
wmwI am using Dell Inspiron 152503:39
wmwAnd I have a Creative Webcam03:39
holsteinwmw: you need to see the device in lsusb if its a usb device03:39
holsteinwmw: could be, the device is broken, or usb is broken..03:40
wmwAs cheese accesses /dev/video, it says, no camera present or something like that.03:40
holsteinwmw: if you have it connected through any usb hubs, try bypassing them03:40
holsteinwmw: yes, friend. the device is not showing up.. you wont find it in /dev/video03:40
wmwOh... I checked it... but its not there in lsusb either. :(03:40
holsteinwmw: you cant create /dev/video, and just make it work.. if its bad, or failing, or broken, it wont show03:40
wmwNo sir, it is an inbuilt laptop camera, I'm not using USB03:41
holsteinwmw: i would go to another machine with the usb cam.. i would try a live CD.. etc03:41
wmwO yeah! I can try using a live cd to check it.03:41
holsteinwmw: sure. so, check the bios, then.. check lspci for it.03:41
wmwBUt I'm sure it was working fine with older distros...03:41
wmwThank you holstein, sir.03:42
wmwI would recheck it. :)03:42
wmwSee you around. Gone for rebooting.03:43
holsteinwmw: cheers!03:43
aynrand420so uh04:59
aynrand420i set it so that my computer wouldn't turn the display off in settings manager, but the screen still goes black after like 10 minutes04:59
aynrand420it is very annoying having to fondle the mouse while watching basketball04:59
aynrand420i even restarted, same deal05:00
AntiSolhi09:29
xubuntu910dfdf10:36
xubuntu95wHello everyone! I have been using Xubuntu for about 3 weeks now and never going back to Windows. It's so much more friendlier to work on a Unix-based operating system.12:12
xubuntu95wI have this problem even before I updated to the latest Xubuntu (14.10) that whenever I would drag and drop something, a remnant of the drag and drop folder icon and pointer stays with my mouse.12:13
artagIs it possible to turn off the gesture recognition in xfce ?12:44
deshipuartag: gesture recognition?12:55
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artagdeshipu: Maybe that's the wrong term. The feature whereby a window maximises when you sweep the mouse across it, or rolls up into the title bar when you double click13:23
deshipuartag: see window manager settings and window manager tweaks13:29
artagI've looked there, of course, but couldn't find anything that seemed to fit the bill. I might be being stpid though ..13:31
deshipuartag: the double click is there, for sure13:33
deshipuartag: "Use mouse wheel on title bar to roll up the window" may be the other13:34
deshipuartag: can't find the double click thing now, maybe it was removed?13:35
deshipuartag: ah, got it, "double click action" in the window manager settings, last tab13:36
t0pazg3mhi?13:38
knomehello.13:38
xubuntu43d why not have via Samba in the menu for add printers13:40
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wgetMEhello16:28
wgetMEwhich theme do you love for Xubuntu ?16:28
xanguaI kinda like ambiance and radiance16:29
Azelphur!best | wgetME16:29
Azelphurhmm, that factoid disappeared for some reason.16:29
wgetMEok16:38
xubuntu85fhey all... does any one knows whats the best method to make xubuntu run on an old spec PC 256mb ram ?17:01
xubuntu85ftried installing xubuntu 9 version and then i done an update, now i have a problem that videos dont play on youtube, so i done an uograde, got ubuntu software centre, and install flash plugin17:02
xubuntu85fso my youtube videos play, but very slow and pc frezz all time17:03
xubuntu85fany suggestions???17:03
knomexubuntu85f, if possible, get more ram17:03
xubuntu85fwell intention here is to give this pc to my 5year old kid, to mess round with, so upgrading parts is really out of question17:04
xubuntu85fis there any other solution ?17:04
knomethere isn't much to do to make your low-resource PC bend to a modern OS17:05
knomethere are other distributions that should work better with that amount of ram though17:05
xubuntu85fupgrading ram will then lead to low cpu .. so there is not much point in that17:06
xubuntu85fwhat about allocating virtual memory...is this duable ?17:06
knomeadding (a lot of) swap space isn't going to help much because the HDD is likely slow as well17:07
knomeyou are just moving the bottleneck to another place17:07
knomei would look at other distributions, or, another PC or upgraded parts17:07
xubuntu85fok, point taken...thx17:08
knomeyou're welcome17:08
xubuntu85fwhat other OS are there, or would u recommend17:08
knomei don't know them too well, but OS's like DSL might be a good point to start investigating17:09
knomeyou can also ask ##linux where much more people are able to give meaningful feedback17:09
slickymasterWorkxubuntu85f: you can try http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ and/or http://puppylinux.org/main/Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm17:09
slickymasterWorkor maybe even http://lubuntu.net/17:10
xubuntu85fone more thing, i installed user agent addon on fire fox and added a new string to emulate brownsing on web as an ipad (which makes all browsing much faster)17:11
xubuntu85fmy problem is that, in my normal 64bit pc with latest xubuntu it works great17:11
xubuntu85fhowever on the low spec pc, the page load on you tube but then then the video doenst play, i have done the flash update and in normal brwsing it works but slow...any ideias why ???17:12
n-iCehi17:26
knomexubuntu85f, opt-in for the HTML5 player and see if that works any better17:28
xubuntu85fhow do i do that ?17:33
xubuntu85fis this something i need to register/download/install ??? or simple commands i can throw in termnal to acquire ??17:34
elfyhttps://www.youtube.com/html517:34
xubuntu85fgr8...thx will have a go at it now17:35
xubuntu85ftried it, not that great..works on normal brwosing mode, but when i tried to switch to ipad mode on my pc it stops videos17:42
knomexubuntu85f, sounds like the "ipad mode" is the culprit then.17:44
xubuntu85f"culprit"...it works great on my 64bit xubuntu, but for the lower version pc with 256mb ram, i dont understand whats wrong17:45
knomei would imagine that changing the "browsing mode" is taking off some of the processing power from playing the video17:46
xubuntu85fuser agent firefox addon seems great and gives you option on how you want to browse web. in ipad mode all pages load at super speed rate, and as above explained, you tube videos load with great easy, but for old cpc, pages all load fast, but its the video that doesnt play17:46
knomevideo being choppy with 256MB RAM doesn't surprise me17:47
knomexubuntu85f, which xubuntu version are you using again?17:47
xubuntu85fi installed version 9 as it only requires 196mb of ram...i later upgraded to xubuntu 10 as its got the ubuntu software centre17:48
xubuntu85fso to awnser your question xubuntu 1017:48
knomefwiw, there is no "xubuntu 10", it's either 10.04 or 10.10; furthermore, neither of those releases are supported, so if something doesn't work, you are on your own17:49
xanguayou can try Lubuntu, it uses even less resources than Xubuntu17:49
knomexangua, we've gone through other OS option discussion already17:50
knomelubuntu 10.04 is not any more supported either, so it's a dead-end choice as well17:50
xanguaI didn't mean 10.04, of course 14.04 minimum17:51
xubuntu85fhaving above in mind i was browsing by Puppy Linux, however i cant find what requiremnts are for latest version17:51
xanguathere even wasn't a lubuntu 10.0417:51
xubuntu85f@knome...its xubuntu 10.04 lts17:53
elfyxubuntu85f: that is out of support17:53
xubuntu85fseems to work great for this pc however17:53
xubuntu85fwill try installing Puppy Linux17:54
xubuntu85fdoes any 1 know what are requiements for the latest realease ?17:54
knomeask the puppy linux IRC channel if they have one17:55
xubuntu85fhow do i get there, sorry, new to all this ubuntu os world17:56
knomexubuntu85f, /join #puppylinux17:57
xubuntu85fthx17:58
superbootHi all. I'm having an issue with xubuntu stalling at shutdown requiring a hard shutdown (using power switch). Is there anyway to clear the splash screen and see what step the shutdown process is stuck on?18:57
n-iCehi superboot18:59
n-iCeusing the shutdown terminal command shows you what's going on18:59
xubuntu85fso been trying this out...and is just to confusing im afraid19:24
xubuntu85fthx all for help and suggestions19:24
holsteinxubuntu85f: trying what? and whats confusing?19:24
xubuntu85fpuupy os19:24
holsteinxubuntu85f: looking at the scroll back, yo dont install puppyOS19:25
xubuntu85fas an alternative to run my 256mb ram old sepc pc19:25
xubuntu85fyeah, tried it out..but to confusing19:25
holsteinpuppy will run fine there.. there are many low-spec OS's..19:25
xubuntu85fci guess it run well when u know what u doing...for instance with the drivers for network19:26
xubuntu85fi have the cd driveres for windows, but then there are a lot of commands unkonm to me, like having to mount cd and so on...totally alien19:26
holsteinxubuntu85f: the network device either supports linux or it doesnt..19:26
holsteinxubuntu85f: the company can provide you with a cd with linux drivers, but, they typically dont19:26
xubuntu85fits an old dell laptop19:27
holsteinxubuntu85f: i suggest, try mirroring the scenario that worke for you when you were learning windows19:27
holsteinyou likely bought a PC, and used it "as-is" for years. maybe even with out wireless or networking of any kind19:27
xubuntu85fnot following you, going back as in what???19:27
holsteinits challenging to drop into *any* operating system and expect the same work flow and expertise that one has accumulated over years19:28
xubuntu85ftrue19:28
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xubuntu85ffrustating is the "word"19:28
holsteinfor me, i find it *very* frustrating these days when i fire up a friends windows 8 PC.. but, thats becuase i am not familiar with the OS19:28
xubuntu85fseems a pretty basic system puppy, but not been able to drive it, is driving me insane19:29
holsteinallowing yourself to aquire the familiarity is the key.. and also, staring with a "base" that suppots linux19:29
holsteinxubuntu85f: these days, hardware is *so* cheap, its really not constructive to spend too much time fighting with linux support19:29
xubuntu85fso what is the base for linux...been using xubuntu and love its simplicity, i actually related very well considering i only been using that on my 64bit pc for the past months19:30
holsteinxubuntu85f: you can likely fine *very* cheap/free intel based hardware somewhere.. something that works "out of the box".. a P4 with a gig of ram or more19:30
holsteinxubuntu85f: *any* company can support linux.. some do, and very well.. like intel. intel hardware typically works "out of th box"19:30
holsteinxubuntu85f: you are trying to run modern operating systems on much older hardware.. and that will not get any easier19:31
xubuntu85fanyhow, just wanted to keep my old pc alive for my  year old boy to start learning on something besides windows19:31
holsteinxubuntu85f: you have a PC with 256 of ram.. iOS *cant* run on it.. macOSX cant.. *nothing* from windows in the past few years can.. android cant.. etc19:32
xubuntu85fkeep going...19:32
holsteinxubuntu85f: nothing about linux is preventing you from using that hardware... but, you are going to be taking on the responsiblity of supporting it.. which, can be challenging/frustrating19:32
xubuntu85ftrue19:32
holsteinwhat do i suggest? just look for easier hardware to get used to linux with..19:32
xubuntu85fok, so here is a question19:33
xubuntu85fall androids tablets running linux on it right ?19:33
holsteinxubuntu85f: linux is just the kernel19:33
xubuntu85fok, just lost me there...19:34
holsteinxubuntu85f: andoidOS, and ubuntu's operating system, as well as *many* other systems use the linux kernel19:34
holsteinandroid*19:34
xubuntu85fmy question is, can i install android os into this old pc ?19:34
knomethat is out of the scope of this channel19:34
holsteinxubuntu85f: and the answer is, *nothing* about linux is preventing that.. linux is completely open.. you, and/or the company that made the hardware can make it where linux/xubuntu/ubuntu can run right on the hardware, easily.. and out of the box19:35
xubuntu85fare there any channels that have help on this topic?19:35
holsteinxubuntu85f: there is little that xubuntu/ubuntu/linux can do, since they dont own, or create the hardware, to specific faciliate linux running on that device19:35
holsteinxubuntu85f: if dell wants, they can release to you an android version made that that hardware..  but, that is *not* easy.. and something that is setting you up for, at the best case, a lot of trial and error, and compromise19:36
knomexubuntu85f, https://source.android.com/source/community/index.html19:36
holsteinwhat would i do? take that hardware, and run an operating system that is was intended to run.. something from the same era.. maybe stock xubuntu 12.04 for example..19:37
xubuntu85fyeah im running xubuntu.10.04lts19:37
holstein*nothing* is going to make that machine any faster, newer, or better.. you can get higher specs, and better linux support from hardware for cheap/free19:37
xubuntu85fbut its not handling to well, specially videos on youtube19:38
xubuntu85ftry changing to html519:38
xubuntu85fbut also no luck19:38
holsteinxubuntu85f: adobe can provide for you flash content for your machine.. they do not though19:38
holsteinxubuntu85f: you will move forward using that hardware with *many* legitimate compromises19:38
xubuntu85fwhat i done, was install user agent addon for firefox, and then use ipad optin to browse web...which i must admit has a high increase on speed and load page19:40
xubuntu85fall work like a charm on my 64bit pc, but on the old spec pc, the video doesnt open for some reason.19:40
holsteinxubuntu85f: the reason is that.. the low/old spec hardare19:41
xubuntu85fi have configure and added all files as on the 64bit pc, but still not working19:41
holsteinxubuntu85f: adobe is not interested in supporting flash content on that hardware19:41
holsteinxubuntu85f: you can ask them to do so.. but, the issue you are having is not with xubuntu, as your testing shows19:41
xubuntu85ftrue19:42
xubuntu85fstill ok i guess for movis and all19:42
holsteinxubuntu85f: "ok" is relative.. and up to you.. for me, i dont run x on a machine like that..19:42
holsteinxubuntu85f: i run it headless, and make a file server, or some other server.. i dont expect machines that old to run modern desktops19:43
holsteinyou can, but, you will have compromises19:43
xubuntu85fwell keep it for now, as i im not a great beleiver of waste, i know i might use pasts of it for other projects in future..maybe keep lcd and do PS3 console mod...:)19:44
xubuntu85fholstein and all that join in with help and suggestions...thx u all so much, gr8 cummunity u have hr !19:44
holsteinxubuntu85f: sure.. good luck!19:45
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yommHi, i am running xubuntu 12.04, and after removing the lightdm session manager compiz is slow and tearing the place up. It was working great before the removal of the session manager ... any clues ? maybe i'm offtopic here just let me know23:04
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